WEBVTT 00:00.960 --> 00:05.320 When, as an ancient historian, I look at the evidence about Jesus and 00:05.320 --> 00:11.340 say, what did he think he was doing, I am putting him alongside other figures 00:11.340 --> 00:15.560 in the world of first century Judaism, who we have some evidence for. 00:16.120 --> 00:20.000 And the first thing that I say, quite clearly, is that Jesus thought he 00:20.000 --> 00:20.420 was a prophet. 00:20.740 --> 00:22.300 He spoke of himself as a prophet. 00:22.560 --> 00:25.660 When other people referred to him as a prophet, he didn't say, no, no, 00:25.680 --> 00:26.100 you're wrong. 00:26.380 --> 00:28.880 So that's the historical starting point. 00:29.960 --> 00:33.860 The second thing is, what sort of a prophetic movement was this? 00:33.980 --> 00:35.620 What did he think he was doing as a prophet? 00:35.720 --> 00:37.020 And the answer is quite clear again. 00:37.320 --> 00:41.040 He thought he was a prophet announcing the kingdom of God. 00:41.140 --> 00:45.220 Not just announcing it in the sense that it might happen in a day or a week or a 00:45.220 --> 00:48.140 year, but saying, it's happening now under your noses. 00:48.360 --> 00:52.920 This was his prophetic message and he not only said it, he did it with the symbolic 00:52.920 --> 00:55.600 actions of healing and feasting and so on. 00:55.720 --> 00:58.020 And that's why he got into trouble, because people didn't like it. 00:58.020 --> 01:03.940 Now, the next thing in line from there is that not only was he announcing the 01:03.940 --> 01:10.200 kingdom of God, by bringing it himself, he seems to think he was not just a 01:10.200 --> 01:13.500 prophet announcing it, he was actually the Messiah. 01:13.860 --> 01:18.020 That is to say, not he was the divine incarnate one, we'll get to that, 01:18.080 --> 01:23.480 that's the fifth stage, but that he was the one who was Israel's anointed, 01:23.700 --> 01:25.820 who was the Lord's anointed, he was the king. 01:25.820 --> 01:29.760 And messiahs, there were always two things that messiahs had to do. 01:29.920 --> 01:33.960 Messiahs had to defeat the pagans and build or cleanse the temple. 01:34.500 --> 01:38.160 And Jesus was going to fight a different sort of battle. 01:38.380 --> 01:43.080 He talks about having battles with the enemy, but it isn't Rome he has in mind, 01:43.300 --> 01:47.200 it's the darker force of evil that he called the Satan or the accuser, 01:47.700 --> 01:49.260 the ultimate source of evil. 01:49.400 --> 01:51.260 And he wasn't going to build a new temple. 01:51.260 --> 01:57.340 He was going to do and be things which would, as it were, replace the temple. 01:57.560 --> 01:58.480 We'll get to that in a moment. 01:58.580 --> 02:02.540 So he's a prophet, he's announcing the kingdom, he believes he is the Messiah. 02:02.860 --> 02:09.760 But then fourthly, Jesus believed that his messianic movement was not about blitzing 02:09.760 --> 02:14.600 the enemy into submission in a political sense, but by actually taking the full 02:14.600 --> 02:21.380 force of evil onto himself and dying under the weight of that evil in fulfilment of 02:21.380 --> 02:21.880 the scriptures. 02:21.880 --> 02:27.540 The long story of Israel's tortured career was going to come to its climax in his own 02:27.540 --> 02:29.760 death at the hands of the pagans. 02:30.240 --> 02:34.460 And then fifthly and finally, and this is the really scary thing when we think about 02:34.460 --> 02:38.840 it historically, Jesus as a historical individual believing this, he believed 02:38.840 --> 02:45.000 that this entire vocation was appropriate for him because he was actually the 02:45.000 --> 02:49.240 personal embodiment of Israel's God. 02:49.400 --> 02:58.100 He told stories about Israel's God coming back to Zion in order to explain what he 02:58.100 --> 03:01.500 was doing in his own last journey to Jerusalem. 03:01.980 --> 03:06.500 And that's the way that I come round to saying that Jesus actually... 03:06.500 --> 03:09.520 You see, if you say, did Jesus believe he was God? 03:10.060 --> 03:14.120 People in our culture have this idea of God as a rather distant dictator or 03:14.120 --> 03:14.360 whatever. 03:14.440 --> 03:18.140 And if you say Jesus believed he was that sort of figure, you have this idea of a 03:18.140 --> 03:21.940 rather lofty detached Jesus, like the Jesus of some of the movies from the 50s 03:21.940 --> 03:27.540 and so on, with a far away look in his eye and being very sort of, I don't know, 03:27.660 --> 03:27.940 heady. 03:28.920 --> 03:32.120 Jesus has his feet on the ground of first century Palestine. 03:32.680 --> 03:39.020 And as a human being with this vocation, he believed he was embodying the personal 03:39.020 --> 03:40.720 presence of Israel's God. 03:40.800 --> 03:42.600 And then you get a very different picture of God. 03:43.000 --> 03:46.320 You get a God who doesn't stay detached from the process. 03:46.500 --> 03:50.860 You get a God who comes and gets his feet dirty and gets his hands nailed to a cross 03:50.860 --> 03:52.420 in order to rescue his people.