WEBVTT 00:02.060 --> 00:02.780 Translator's Note 00:10.420 --> 00:18.340 One of the most important people was a man by the name of Andreas Bodenstein. 00:19.160 --> 00:22.260 And he came from a town which was called Karlstadt. 00:23.200 --> 00:28.040 And so he became known as Andreas Bodenstein von Karlstadt. 00:28.840 --> 00:29.720 Have you heard of him? 00:31.240 --> 00:35.080 Andreas Bodenstein von Karlstadt, later on he just became known as 00:35.080 --> 00:35.680 Karlstadt. 00:35.940 --> 00:39.940 So when you speak about Karlstadt, that's not his given name, that's the town 00:39.940 --> 00:40.820 that he came from. 00:41.800 --> 00:46.460 Now, he was a contemporary of Martin Luther and his history is fascinating. 00:47.800 --> 00:51.360 So while Luther and his friends were uncovering the great truths of the 00:51.360 --> 00:56.760 Reformation, there were nevertheless differences of opinion with regard to the 00:56.760 --> 00:59.820 pace of reform and the issues of reform. 01:00.560 --> 01:05.660 So besides the great Sola, Scriptura, Fides and Christos, there were other 01:05.660 --> 01:06.220 things. 01:06.520 --> 01:07.620 What about the other truths? 01:08.360 --> 01:11.060 What about these other precious pearls in the Bible? 01:11.780 --> 01:13.420 Weren't they to be gathered as well? 01:14.760 --> 01:17.940 So Karlstadt was the dean of the University of Wittenberg. 01:18.480 --> 01:21.360 He was the one who conferred the doctorate on Martin Luther. 01:21.560 --> 01:23.680 So he was Martin Luther's superior. 01:23.680 --> 01:29.000 In the beginning, Karlstadt didn't want to go along with the Reformation, 01:29.700 --> 01:35.200 but once he embraced it, he was enthusiastic. 01:36.040 --> 01:40.820 And he was a fighter together with Martin Luther and in the beginning, he was the 01:40.820 --> 01:43.700 main spokesperson, besides Luther. 01:45.100 --> 01:49.220 So he was born in the same year as Luther and was only a few months older than him. 01:50.140 --> 01:56.140 And he first opposed Luther, but by 1517, he was one with Luther on the question of 01:56.140 --> 01:58.060 justification by faith alone. 01:58.940 --> 02:02.740 And Karlstadt was ahead of Luther on the question of Sola Scriptura. 02:03.460 --> 02:08.500 He was the first one to say, the Bible and the Bible alone should be our criterion. 02:09.720 --> 02:14.740 Regarding faith and works, he was also ahead of the Reformation, because the 02:14.740 --> 02:20.460 Reformation, having uncovered this beautiful truth of justification by faith, 02:20.460 --> 02:25.560 was a little bit slow in terms of sanctification. 02:26.560 --> 02:32.560 And so Karlstadt said that the moral law was extremely important. 02:33.240 --> 02:38.440 So he regarded the model law as binding, stating that far from abrogating the law, 02:39.000 --> 02:41.660 it makes us lovers and doers of the law. 02:42.340 --> 02:45.920 And he also introduced the communion in both kinds. 02:46.820 --> 02:53.000 This Huss had done before, but Martin Luther hadn't studied Huss in any shape or 02:53.000 --> 02:53.300 form. 02:53.680 --> 02:57.160 He had started the Reformation on the basis of indulgences. 02:58.460 --> 03:04.680 And he also said it was idolatry to elevate the host. 03:06.060 --> 03:12.020 And while Martin Luther was incarcerated in Wittenberg, or in the Wartburg at 03:12.020 --> 03:20.100 least, Karlstadt was associated with what they called the Bildersturm, the storming 03:20.100 --> 03:21.040 of the statues. 03:22.000 --> 03:29.180 Because Karlstadt realized that the veneration of statues and images was 03:29.180 --> 03:30.640 contrary to the law of God. 03:30.740 --> 03:33.610 Remember he said that the law of God was not to be abrogated. 03:34.720 --> 03:39.900 And so he started introducing what they called the Bildersturm, storming of the 03:39.900 --> 03:40.300 images. 03:40.300 --> 03:46.500 And he had the images of Mary and the symbols in the Marian shrines removed and 03:46.500 --> 03:49.040 some of the shrines on the roads he had removed. 03:49.760 --> 03:55.620 And the pace of reform was a little bit too fast for the general German. 03:56.860 --> 04:01.980 And Luther eventually became involved and said, whoa, whoa, whoa, we have to slow 04:01.980 --> 04:02.660 this down. 04:03.400 --> 04:05.760 So Karlstadt was too progressive. 04:06.720 --> 04:13.380 If you go to the story of Protestantism by Holderstein-Gayle, he tells the story of 04:13.380 --> 04:15.000 Andrew Bordenstein. 04:15.940 --> 04:21.240 And he said, John Eck, this was the Catholic prelate who argued against Martin 04:21.240 --> 04:26.360 Luther, the chancellor of the University of Ingolstadt had attacked Luther's 04:26.360 --> 04:29.940 opinion in a work entitled The Obelisks. 04:29.940 --> 04:37.360 And to this counterpart had been issued by Andreas Bordenstein, better known as 04:37.360 --> 04:43.020 Karlstadt, who was now challenged by Eck to one of those public disputations which 04:43.020 --> 04:48.100 played no mean part in the controversy in the days when there was no newspaper 04:48.100 --> 04:48.860 press. 04:50.160 --> 04:54.340 But before the day was fixed for the disputation, arrived Eck must needs 04:54.340 --> 04:59.820 publish 13 theses in which he plainly attacked Luther and thus the professor's 04:59.820 --> 05:04.240 self-tied bonds were loosed and Luther himself was drawn into the war of words 05:04.240 --> 05:04.820 with Eck. 05:06.080 --> 05:09.780 And both of them were involved in this early conflict. 05:10.720 --> 05:15.400 The disputation is important for it marks a distinct stage in the drawing of the 05:15.400 --> 05:17.000 line between Rome and the reformers. 05:18.200 --> 05:23.460 Free will was first debated, Eck and his friends maintained that man, note this, 05:24.260 --> 05:29.760 without the aid of the Holy Spirit and simply of himself has the power to choose 05:29.760 --> 05:32.420 what is spiritually good and to obey God. 05:32.780 --> 05:35.780 That is exactly what Rome believes to this very day. 05:36.300 --> 05:41.780 That man has the capacity to decide for himself what is right and what is wrong. 05:42.540 --> 05:46.300 And that is exactly what the serpent said in the Garden of Eden. 05:46.760 --> 05:49.700 That you will know good and evil. 05:49.900 --> 05:51.360 You will be able to distinguish. 05:51.960 --> 05:54.000 You don't need God to tell you. 05:55.040 --> 05:59.080 So Luther and Calstat first contended on this issue. 06:00.020 --> 06:03.960 And Eck began by claiming that the supremacy of a divine appointment, 06:04.180 --> 06:09.140 basing his argument on Christ's work, thou art Peter and the rock, and on this 06:09.140 --> 06:10.600 rock will I build my church. 06:11.420 --> 06:16.660 And Luther replied, as do Protestants today, that it is an unnatural 06:16.660 --> 06:19.860 interpretation to make Peter the rock. 06:20.860 --> 06:27.560 And then, interestingly, Eck said that they were patrons of the heresies of 06:27.560 --> 06:29.720 Wycliffe and Hus. 06:31.080 --> 06:34.720 And Martin Luther remembered those words. 06:35.820 --> 06:41.980 And when he got home, he thought to himself, I must find out what these people 06:41.980 --> 06:42.580 had said. 06:43.800 --> 06:48.840 And this is Eck's reference to Hus and Wycliffe made Luther study the writings of 06:48.840 --> 06:49.040 Hus. 06:49.040 --> 06:54.860 In quietness and confidence, Luther and his growing band of friends pursued their 06:54.860 --> 06:56.160 way at Wittenberg. 06:56.780 --> 07:02.220 At Leipzig, as we have seen, Eck had taunted Luther with being a patron of the 07:02.220 --> 07:03.720 heresies of Wycliffe and Hus. 07:04.360 --> 07:09.660 Once back in his university, Luther set to work to study the writings of Hus and 07:09.660 --> 07:16.280 found in him to his delight an exposition of that same doctrine which he had himself 07:16.280 --> 07:20.620 learned from St. Paul, the doctrine of justification by faith. 07:20.660 --> 07:25.580 And he exclaimed, we have all, he exclaimed in his joy, Paul, 07:25.760 --> 07:29.500 Augustine, and myself been Hussites without knowing it. 07:31.640 --> 07:35.540 It's interesting how something that is against something can make you interested 07:35.540 --> 07:36.200 in something. 07:36.320 --> 07:37.780 And it happened in my own life. 07:38.780 --> 07:45.960 In my own life, I was once confronted on the telephone by someone who had nothing 07:45.960 --> 07:54.680 good to say about an author that we consider very enlightened. 07:55.940 --> 08:04.340 And screamed at me for being in an organization that embraces the writings. 08:05.520 --> 08:07.220 And that made me study them. 08:08.380 --> 08:12.060 I thought to myself, such animosity, there must be something interesting. 08:12.740 --> 08:16.420 And so I had a look, just like Martin Luther did. 08:17.340 --> 08:20.380 But the problem was, Karlstadt was too progressive for Luther. 08:20.560 --> 08:21.920 These are the history sources. 08:23.000 --> 08:27.800 And in order to accommodate the elector, actually reversed some of the reforms, 08:27.940 --> 08:30.760 thus creating tension between himself and Karlstadt. 08:31.020 --> 08:33.200 Karlstadt was going too fast for Luther. 08:36.200 --> 08:39.020 And Karlstadt even recognized the Sabbath. 08:39.020 --> 08:44.960 He didn't distinguish it as the seventh day being Saturday at that stage. 08:45.340 --> 08:50.860 But he wrote enough about it that Martin Luther eventually wrote, if Karlstadt were 08:50.860 --> 08:55.580 to write further about the Sabbath, Sunday would have to give way, 08:55.860 --> 08:59.600 and the Sabbath, that is Saturday, must be kept holy. 09:00.780 --> 09:05.920 So these truths were being set aside and not embraced. 09:05.920 --> 09:10.820 But the thoughts were put into the public mind.