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Start with prayer, and I have just this
little devotional that really struck me

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and I was going to open today with.

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Let's start with prayer.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you,
Lord, again for these examples of faith

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throughout the centuries.

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And dear God, once again we cry out,
Lord, that you would put your Holy Spirit

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anew in the church today and to be able to
rise up a generation today that would

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glorify your name.

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And Father, we want to do that today,
so please let these examples, their

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mistakes, their successes, teach us
lessons.

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In Jesus' name we pray, amen.

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Quick little devotion.

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I think it'll kind of make sense towards
the end of this study as I hope to get to

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it.

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One of the first weeks here, I was going
through this devotion, it's by East

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Stanley Jones, and he had this particular
thing about history and tradition.

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And I thought it was a good subtle rebuke
to me and I'll bring it to you as well.

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And I'll just cut in where he says here,
he talks about this professor giving up

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Christianity and the professor says,
I never consciously gave up a religious

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belief.

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It was as if I had put my belief into a
drawer and when I came back to look for

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them, the drawer was empty.

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Then he says this, the thing has happened
to this generation that happened to three

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generations of Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob.

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Jacob could say, my eyes are getting a
little bad these days, Jacob could say,

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my father's God, the God of Abraham,
the awe of Isaac.

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So Jacob could say, my father's God,
the God of Abraham, the awe of Isaac.

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That's in Genesis 31, a Moffat translation
he used.

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God was God to Abraham.

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He had ventured forth with him as friend.

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He was intimate and firsthand and real.

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But in the next generation, God was not,
quote, God of Isaac, but only the,

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quote, awe of Isaac.

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He had faded and become secondhand.

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Still, Isaac stood in awe of his father's
God.

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In the third generation, in Jacob,
the result of the gradual fading of God

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began to be shown in the decaying morals
of Jacob.

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Moral rottenness appeared.

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He stole his brother's birthright.

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He was ready to take the main chance
without regard to God.

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The same thing has happened with us.

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Our forefathers had a firsthand experience
of God through revival.

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The next generation clung to the church
for their father's sake.

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But God was only the awe, the afterglow of
a fading faith.

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The third generation is reaping the
results of a fading faith, which producing

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decaying morals and a decaying
civilization.

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Our loss of God is working out in moral
decay.

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We are going to pieces morally,
for we have gone to pieces spiritually.

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We have lost God and have thus lost the
basis of morals.

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Jacob then met God on Jebuch's bank in the
midnight rustle and emerged a new man.

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Unless we, like Jacob, find a renewal in
finding God.

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Amen, huh?

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So when we look at it, it's a good thing
to talk about Jesus.

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And it's good to talk about people that
talk about Jesus, and that's what history

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is.

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And it's good to talk about people that
talk about people that talk about Jesus.

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But all in the center must still
completely come to this becoming new and

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alive and Christ being alive within us in
every generation.

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So it's just a rebuke I take to myself.

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I like history and I have to remind her
that the target is not here, still the

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target is here.

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You see what I'm saying?

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All right, so let's get back to the
Hutterites here.

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We're going to see some of that,
how it works itself out in a movement as

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they go through time.

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By their own words they say these types of
things.

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Okay, we picked it up and we ended
yesterday with the statement of faith that

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we were looking at that comes into page
265 in Volume 1 of the Chronicles.

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And then we're going to go right in to now
start watching some pretty hard years with

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what the Hutterites have gone through.

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You're thinking, well, I thought it was
hard already.

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That's what I thought.

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When I get to the part of here that says
the golden years, I think that's the

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golden years.

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I mean, people are still getting chopped
up.

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So, I mean, you know, it's, I guess it's a
matter of semantics here.

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But I'm going to take you through this and
the whole point is to go on a journey with

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these people.

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One of the blessing things of the
Hutterites was they kept these chronicles.

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I wish every group did this.

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So you can watch them as they go through.

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And one of the most impressive things
about these chronicles is they're full of

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their mistakes.

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Well, this was a bad idea.

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We did this.

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This was dumb and that type of thing.

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And it's good to see that.

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And maybe then we can see a reflection of
some of the mistakes that we made.

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But we have that fiery zeal, that
missionary passion, that desire to follow

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Christ.

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And now we're going through and we're
going to see how this works itself out.

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So in 1547 to 1553, you see there on page
11, we enter the second wave of

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persecution.

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In 1545, the king decided that unless we
give up living in community, then we would

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be expelled from Moravia.

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And they mentioned this and they were
struggling with it.

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Should we do this?

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It's getting so bad.

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I think we should just stop.

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And the king said, you can be in groups of
five to seven people.

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Well, hardly our families could fit in
five to seven people.

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It was an obvious thing just to divide up
the Anabaptists that were there.

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And then when King Charles V came in,
and this is a quote from the Chronicles,

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I thought it was funny, it was,
out, out with us!

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And those exclamation points are that way.

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And so unfortunately all that we talked
about yesterday with the development of

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those communities, all the work they had
done, start over.

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And on the road again they went.

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It was a hard time.

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But I appreciate the spirit of prayer that
I see coming out from these brethren.

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It says here on page 297 in the
Chronicles, it says we called upon God and

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asked Him if His will was for us to remain
together, to show us which way to go in

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our need and to care for those who trust
in Him but are deserted by everyone else.

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The Lord in His mercy showed us a way out
for we were accepted in Hungary.

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So they got a little chance.

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Remember we were talking about the Islamic
invasion that was happening at this time.

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Already they were taking Hungary,
Yugoslavia, and all these areas.

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And we are going to see many times through
today that the brothers found easier time

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with the Islam than they did with the
Reformers or with the Catholics,

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sad to say.

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And Hungary was already a place and still
for a little gap they let them in.

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But the gap didn't last long.

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And while they were there, they quickly
changed their mind.

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As soon as they got things built,
they changed their mind and they started

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to have to kick them out.

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And it was some pretty bad times for them
as well.

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Just a few thoughts here, how things were
bad.

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This is page 302 in the first Chronicles.

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The first night they camped out in this
particular area and they had no place to

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stay.

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They lived like animals and lived like in
the wild.

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They were wondering what to do with
themselves.

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In page 306 it went on to say that many of
the believers then had to stay away from

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houses and flee into the woods and the
mountains in the cold of the winter.

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It says they dug holes in the earth to
live in like foxes.

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Hard such conditions were that they would
have endured it all thankfully if only

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they would have been left alone.

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But even then when they were digging holes
to stay in, even then the persecution kept

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going.

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When they gave them a certain amount of
time, the Hungarians there actually built

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some gallows, you know what you hang
people with, in front of their doors and

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said you have until such time to be out or
you will be hanging from these gallows.

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And they could see from their attitudes
they were meaning it.

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You went in here, there has even been
found some of these areas living in holes.

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And here is an area in Moravia where they
have done some found these places.

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And these Hutterites actually built like
caves in places where they could hide from

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this terrible time of persecution.

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And we are going to start with the handout
from yesterday, page 11 everyone.

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And it says this would have been okay,
okay we had to dig this by hand,

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we were living like animals.

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But even then in puppets, which is this,
where believers were living in holes

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underground, some godless men built a fire
at the entrance and tried to suffocate

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them and smoke them out.

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But they were stopped and driven away.

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Thieving gangs would chase believers out
of thickets and woods and force them to

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move on.

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Around the Mayburg many lived with the
children in holes among the bushes for a

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time.

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They had also lived in the rocky crevices
of caves and cliffs in Moravia and

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wherever they could find.

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They had a little house still left in
Hungary that had 250 children living in

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one house as well as sick and the old,
lame and the blind.

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The brothers in this area supplied them
with food, sending them bread and keeping

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up with brotherly love.

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And they were just hanging on for survival
now as they got kicked out of this

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particular area.

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And it was hard times.

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I have here the year 1546 was a difficult
time for the Hutterites indeed.

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King Ferdinand made a visit to Moravia.

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Remember him?

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He was the guy that I drew the picture of.

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My children really make fun of my artwork.

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So he was mad.

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He is the guy, he has a lot of... he is
not a nice guy.

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So Ferdinand made a visit to Moravia and
put the brethren in danger and so the

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Hutterites fled to the mountains and all
these different things began to happen.

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And then around 1554 to 1564 was a good
period.

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You need a little 10 years of rest every
now and then.

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Poor guys.

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After the Hutterites survived persecution
and suffering the Golden Period which

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lasted again even more so from 1565 then
to 1592.

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And during this time the community grew
rapidly.

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And by 1621 there were over 102
communities with a total population of

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20,000 to 30,000.

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Some little differences.

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The king got distracted.

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I don't know.

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Perhaps, remember there is still this
entire Islamic invasion that is

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threatening Austria and threatening all
these different things.

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And at times the kings would be distracted
with different things and it was a good

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time for them.

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And apparently this was one of those.

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During that time the members of the
colonies were engaged with a variety of

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different economic activities.

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And this was impressive times.

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You see the industry of the Anabaptists
starting to pour out in these brethren.

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Some of them included wagon making,
cutlery, leather working, nursing.

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They became doctors.

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They actually became some of the most
famous doctors in Europe at that time.

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Shoemaking, pottery making, watchmaking,
and weaving.

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There were also barbers, surgeons,
and coppersmiths, tinsmiths, locksmiths.

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Because their reputation is hard working,
they were hired by many of the lords in

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Moravia and Slovakia.

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And so they would get the brothers to come
to their castle and they would help work

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this or work that.

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One of the things that I find impressive
with them, it's the same thing I see with

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the Zinzendorf brothers there in Bethlehem
and Hernhut, was to have these kind of

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trades and then still have all these
trades be used for the propagating of the

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kingdom of God.

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That's a big temptation in and of itself.

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You understand, it's one thing when you're
starving to death, you have no money,

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you're hungry, and you're dying,
and oh great, we can all live together in

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community.

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It's kind of a not so bad thing.

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When it raised to the point where they
were able to raise to this kind of level,

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I think it's even more impressive to
something that they were trying to uphold.

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It's during this time that the Hutterites
established their first kindergartens and

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started to educate the children.

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In this day, the education of children in
Germany and this area, Moravian area,

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was pretty pathetic in a lot of places.

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And so they started to have schools and a
lot of the lords and things would actually

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have their children go to the school with
the Hutterites and they would begin to

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train them and begin to educate them.

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They felt it was very important that the
children learn to read and learn to be

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able to study the faith, kind of like the
Hebrews did in earlier times.

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And it was very successful for them.

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And it is at this time that Caspar
Brachmichael began to put together this

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chronicle.

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And here are some of the handwritten
copies that I took some pictures of here.

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I don't know if it do me any... oh yeah,
at least I know what the 26 says.

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And so they gathered up a lot of the
different papers, a lot of the different

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documents, and began to put this thing
together.

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And these books are Anabaptist
masterpieces.

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They're historical masterpieces because
they read like in journal fashion.

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And that's what makes it fun as a
historian to teach a history class on the

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Hutterites because you follow them
through.

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It's just like this happened, that
happened, this happened.

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And to have a record of a people like that
that goes through time is really an

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incredible gift that we have today.

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And so they had that here.

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And here's some of the original documents.

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They kept transcribing these and through
the ages.

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So I've been told... I was reading one
little book on the Hutterites and this

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person...

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I think that this, the first volume,
is the copy, the leftover handwritten copy

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of this, according to this one book that I
read, he said was under the bed in a

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wooden box under the bishop's bed in
Bonhomme community in South Dakota.

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I just think that's so funny.

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I would love to be able to see this box or
something.

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I don't know if by now NC's written that
book.

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They have it somewhere else.

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But it's been handed down, handed down,
handed down.

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And it is really a treasure we have for
all of our history in looking at what

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they've done here.

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Another thing I'll just say real quick
about these.

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I mentioned it just a little bit earlier
already.

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I appreciate the honest history.

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It's kind of like even when you're writing
the Bible, if you were writing the Bible,

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would you have given the David story with
Bathsheba?

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Would you have told the stories?

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Would you have mentioned that Peter denied
the faith?

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Maybe you'd have left that out and cleaned
it up a little bit.

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But wouldn't you agree we'd all have been
very sad if that would have happened?

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Same with these chronicles.

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It's hard to believe that they just kept
transcribing all these things when some of

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them were like ten pages of this was a
disastrous mistake.

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I can't believe the elder did that.

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And it went on and it went on like that.

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But they still pass it down.

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And if I get to there, I'll read you some
quotes where they actually say why they

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pass it down so future generations can
learn lessons.

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So I think it's good for us all to be
honest with our history.

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I think that's really good for us.

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Okay, so then during the golden period,
the brethren were very well organized and

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prosperous and mission work was carried
out more than ever before.

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And if I could say a rebuke to us in our
time of prosperity, you know, we think

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well during persecution times you have
nothing else to do, you might as well go

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in the mission field.

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But here during their time of prosperity,
they organized and still went into

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missions.

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Let me read you some of these.

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Okay... 352... 352... I'll read you some
of this.

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Just a little glance.

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My goal here today is just to give you a
flavor as you walk through this people and

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walk with them on their journey through
the centuries here and see things that

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they had.

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So during this time, page 352 in volume 1,
they traveled with joy and fear of God

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again and again praising Him who leads
into prison and out again.

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They put their trust in the Lord and after
they reached the Rhine, they carried on

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their task of obedience to their mission
from the church.

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They returned joyfully to the church
community with a good conscience.

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Just something said in there about the
missionaries there.

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And 355, another one, so that they lay
down again and returned to the prison on

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Sunday when the city governor came to the
two priests who questioned him about his

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mission.

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He told them he himself had not chosen to
do this task, he didn't choose to be a

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missionary, but had been appointed by God
and His Spirit in His church.

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Just as God sent His Son and as the Son
sent His Apostles into all the world,

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so He still sends out His servants through
His Spirit, first of all to preach the

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Word of God, then they are to baptize,
not infants and young children,

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but those who hear, understand and
believe.

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Again, that's when they were in prison and
being challenged about their missionary

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activity.

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Another real quick one here, another
missionary again being asked questions.

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This is the good time, this is what I
think is funny, they are still in prison,

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they are still getting killed and
everything.

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357, five times the executioner came ready
to execute them, but the council could not

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reach a verdict.

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Here's one of these particular men here,
and they had in mind to execute first Hans

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Schmidt and the other Heinrich Adams
because these two had opposed them the

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most and they hoped that they would shake
the others when Hans heard that he was

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going to die, but he sang for joy,
he sang for joy.

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This is one of the missionaries that were
sent out, that's why I mention him here.

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But it's interesting when they were trying
to decide what do we do with them,

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do we kill them or not, and here is an
attitude that comes out from him,

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and it's a beautiful quote.

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The date of the execution, Hans Schmidt
and Heinrich Adams was sent for on August

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13th.

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And then they told him what was going to
happen to them.

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Some felt sympathy for them and had sent
them food and drink from time to time,

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now came to offer their hand to Hans.

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He shook hands and smiled at them.

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And even when he had walked through the
crowd in the square, there had been a

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smile on his lips.

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People had swarmed about him to the left
and to the right and front and behind as

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he was being taken before the court,
which made him exclaim.

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So everybody started showing up and he
said, what a wonderful wedding I am having

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with so many people coming to my
attending.

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And again, they seem to talk about this
quite often about seeing their martyrdom

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as called their wedding day.

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One of the particular ones that caught my
attention was a brother who was,

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you'll see this one in the martyr's mirror
as well.

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And the Chronicles, it's on page 343.

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And this brother was again arrested and as
he was arrested, the judge told him that

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an order had come from Innsbruck demanding
the names of the leaders who sent brothers

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out on missions and of those who gave them
food and shelter.

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And he answered, we are not sent out to
harm anyone.

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Our mission is the salvation of men,
to call them to repent and change their

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lives.

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But this last question he added was not
about the Articles of Faith.

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They did not need to know and he would not
tell them.

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So he wasn't going to tell them.

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They would let the people know the
Articles of Faith, but there were some

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things, it's kind of like name and serial
number that the army people gave.

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They would say, if they ask you Articles
of Faith, they would talk to them.

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But if they ask you other things,
like who sends people on missionaries,

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where do you go?

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He said, that we don't have to answer.

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So they finally put this guy in prison,
stuck him in a terrible hole, a rotten

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hole.

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I mean, it's just disgusting.

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They go through some details here and they
leave him down there to rot so long.

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I don't know if you remember this story
from the martyr's mirror.

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They begin him to rot so long that he goes
through this little journal writings here

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where they gave him food.

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He had to quickly eat his food before the
rats would get it.

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And then he had to put a rock on the bowl
so that they wouldn't drink his water.

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And he was there and began to see his feet
were rotting and he was noticing that.

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And then the brothers actually got a
letter to him and saying, can you give us

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some sign that you're alive?

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How about a straw from your bed?

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And so he looked around and he didn't even
have a straw from his bed.

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So he looked around and what he had done
was all his clothes had rotted except to

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this collar that was all that was left was
a collar.

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And he had that collar hanging up on some
little nail or something.

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His shirt had rotted away until not a
thread remained except the collar that was

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around his neck, which finally hung on the
wall.

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And so as he thought about what to send
them, he said he got word of them asking

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to send him some sign that he was still
faithful to God and the church.

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He had nothing else.

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He just sent him a little piece of straw.

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But Hans Karl would gladly have done so,
but he did not even have so much as a

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bundle of straw in the dungeon.

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That is how poor he was.

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And then so he sent him this collar and he
said, so he let them know that they should

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not send him anything.

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He must clothe himself with the garment of
patience.

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And he considered that a garment of
patience because they said we will send

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you clothes or something.

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He said he is persevering in the Lord this
way, but he wanted them to know that he

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was very serious.

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He was very serious indeed.

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And so they went on with these different
things.

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And these were the good times.

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Do you remember the story that I was
reading you by Harold S.

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Bender where the man was saying,
I will never again execute another

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Anabaptist?

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He was a Hutterite.

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It is on page 429 in the Chronicles,
but there is a little more detail that

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comes out here in the Chronicles I wanted
to show you.

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Why it made it so graphic was as he was
going to... as he was going to kill this

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man, the blade apparently was not all that
sharp, unfortunately.

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The executioner had great difficulty
beheading him.

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He just could not strike accurately.

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He had to finish cutting off the brother's
head on the ground the best he could.

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He was afraid of his own life and was
endangered by the mob.

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The experience made him say later that he
would never execute another brother as

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long as he lived.

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It later says that this man, he said he
went insane and had to be chained up,

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the leader there.

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And so it was some serious hard times,
even during the good times, of what they

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had there.

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So again, we are just watching them go
through.

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They did have some mission frustrations.

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Not everything came through.

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In 430, as they were sending some people
out in 430 of the Chronicles, in 1571,

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a servant of God's word and several other
brothers were sent to Tyrol.

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Remember that's where Hutter came from and
Blaurock ended up.

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It was a good place to send out
missionaries.

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The church sent them to look for people
who longed for God's truth.

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People who were repenting for their sins
and desiring to seal their surrender to

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God with the covenant of grace.

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And that was their commission to go out.

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Nice commission, huh?

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But when they got there, it didn't go that
well.

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They went back to Pustre Valley,
which is where we remember that Jacob

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Hutter was from, looking for different
people.

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Then he met him on the road, okay,
heading back for this place.

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Okay, they felt that they had traveled so
far and met so few people interested in

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the truth that they had lost all hope of
finding anyone who was ready to be

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obedient and surrender to the truth.

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So they had decided to leave that area
rather than spend their money for nothing.

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Again, I just thought that was an
interesting little note that shows that

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not all these mission activities were
great successes.

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They got to a point sometimes and said,
well, no one is even interested in the

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gospel here.

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So, you know, that's your brother.

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So let's not get disheartened when we get
into situations like that.

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One of the particular ones that I wanted
to read to you was when they got into one

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area and they were arrested by the
Lutherans.

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And there's an interesting little dialogue
that goes in between the difference

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between the Anabaptists and the Lutherans
there as they are talking about it.

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And that's what I have here on page 451.

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Okay, this is interesting because the
point that I want to take from this is

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that the Anabaptists then, and I believe a
true concept of Anabaptism today is the

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concept of a visible church.

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Remember they had the parish idea and they
said, well, the church is invisible.

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They said, that's ridiculous.

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Yes, true indeed.

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Only God knows who are His children.

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But He does desire, remember the whole
concept of the Incarnation, Christ is both

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spirit and His flesh.

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And so He does have a physical people.

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So there's an interesting passage here
where they get arrested by the Lutherans.

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And I'm going to read it to you here.

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Okay, so as they begin to talk with them,
the two ministers said that the church...

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okay, let's see where to get in here
because there's some interesting passages.

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Okay,

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so they were talking first about things
like faith and works and they were saying

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something here.

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Finally, he said, talking about,
he says, yet they are powerless when faced

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with the Word of God and the pure truth.

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No Hebrew, Greek, Latin, in short,
no kind of learning will help.

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And finally, these priests at Salzburg
openly admitted to these different

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brothers that the Turks were also devout,
maybe more devout than they, but it depend

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on what each person believed, which is
what was the reality of their life,

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not what was true in their life.

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And they began to get into this argument
on, yes, it matters what you believe,

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but it also must be a true change in their
life.

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At first, so they went on and started
getting into more trouble with these guys.

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And it says, at first he was cruelly
tortured and many attempts to win him over

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made by the magistrates, nobles,
and commoners, learned doctors,

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and Lutheran ministers.

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In 1556, his cell was left unlocked for a
full six months with just this word,

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okay, say you won't leave.

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Now, when they were able to escape,
they had free conscience and they left,

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but the Lutherans said, say you won't
leave.

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So they said, okay, we won't leave.

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And they were there with the gates open
for six months and they just stayed there

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in prison.

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And finally, they, I guess maybe they
hoped they would leave, but finally they

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said, okay, we will let you leave.

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If you just do one thing, just say that
we, or I'll give you right from the quote,

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talking about as Paul was still firm in
the faith, refusing to admit that

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magistrates, the sword or war were
Christians.

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These warmongers said that they did not
want him to associate with other people

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and that here it is, and that they would
keep him in prison until he died or

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admitted that they were good Christians.

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All you have to do now, just say that
we're Christians, just say that we're two

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good Christians and we'll let you go.

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And they wouldn't do it.

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Finally, this brother got sick in prison.

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He was about to die.

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And, and so they, when they were about to
die, they got some people to come up here

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and talk to them.

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And, and he said to him, since God has
struck him down with disease, now is the

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time.

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They sent two ministers to question him on
infant baptism in the Eucharist and to win

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him over to their beliefs.

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And Paul answered this, listen,
I'll join your church into this

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circumstance.

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It's a beautiful thing that he gets into
here about the visible church.

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Don't miss this.

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He says, if you can show me one little
flock of Christ, that is a fruit of your

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preaching, I will join them and I will lay
down whatever is against God in me and

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accept what is better.

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Ouch.

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Oh, the two ministers said, well,
that a Christian church is not something

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visible.

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You cannot point to it.

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And brother Paul said, remember he's sick.

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This shows what false prophets you are.

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For Christ pointed to his church and to
his disciples when he stretched forth his

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hand toward them and said, here are my
mother and my brothers.

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Whoever does the will of my father in
heaven is my mother, my brother,

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and my sisters.

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He also said, you are to be the light of
the world.

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A city set on a hill cannot be hidden and
further love one another as I have loved

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you that all may recognize you as true
disciples.

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And Peter says, lead such good lives among
the heathen that they may be one without

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words.

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And he clearly points to the Christian
church when he says to his brothers,

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you are a chosen race, the royal
priesthood, a holy nation, God's own

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people.

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Paul says the same.

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You are the temple of the living God and
you are a seal of my apostleship to the

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Lord.

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You false serpents.

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He continued, look how God points to his
church.

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But as you cannot do it, you are still
children of darkness, not members of the

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body of Christ.

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If you were members, you would also be
able to point to a body.

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Am I to submit myself to you so that you
can make me a Christian when you have not

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made a single Christian in your church?

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You are like the 400 false prophets of
Ahab.

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Just as with them, a false spirit speaks
out of your lying words to mislead the

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whole world.

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And he goes on.

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He didn't win friends and influence people
that way, but they made their point.

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You know what I mean?

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And I thought that he goes on in that
concept there of talking about the idea of

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a visible church.

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And I think it's a good point.

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It's a good point in all the idea of,
I believe, early Christianity and

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Anabaptist Christianity in that way.

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Okay, the golden period was over.

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And now we start to get into the Turkish
wars.

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The Turkish wars are the buildup,
not quite the 30 year war, but now we have

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the Islamic invasion, the Jihad against
Austria.

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And they're starting to come up on the
side here.

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And the golden period of the Hutterites
ended with the start of the Turkish war,

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which was fought against the Roman Empire.

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During the war, armies from both sides
would come to the communities in search of

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food and shelter.

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The Turks, who killed and captured many of
the members, frequently raided the

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colonies.

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And to get money for the Turks,
emperors told all the lords to contribute

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taxes and monies.

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And the Hutterites had a problem with
paying war taxes.

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So sheep, cattle, wagons, and many other
possessions were stolen instead.

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For 13 years, the colonies were raided and
the Hutterites were killed.

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They took refugees and passages.

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They hid again in passages and caves
again.

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When the war ended, the brethren tried to
rebuild what they had left.

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But the time they did, as soon as they
did, it was starting to be the 30-year

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war.

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I have here, it's mentioned here,
this brother talks about this time period.

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He says in page 403, As usual,
wherever possible, the tribe of priests

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keep stirring up the powers that be.

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But the Lord our God stood in the way.

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The archangel Michael stood watch over his
people, otherwise they would long since

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have been swallowed up and devoured like
bread.

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But as a hen gathers her young under her
wings, protecting them by pecking at all

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that want to attack her own, indeed,
as an angel hovers over its young,

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this and much more God did for the sake of
his people.

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Even the unbelievers often had to
acknowledge that God refused to let his

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people be driven away and annihilated.

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They lived in the land God had provided,
especially for them.

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They were given the wings of a great eagle
and flew to the place God had prepared for

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them, and they were sustained there as
long as it pleased Him.

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Thus they gathered in peace and unity and
preached the word of God publicly.

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Don't miss that, page 403.

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They were put in a certain place by God,
they gathered in peace and preached the

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word of God publicly.

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Then they had prayer meetings twice a
week.

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Sometimes more often they held meetings in
which the communal and united prayer was

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offered to God, asking Him for all the
needs of the brotherhood and giving joyful

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thanks for all the good things they
enjoyed.

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Likewise, intercession was made for
emperors and kings, princes, and worldly

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authority that God might make them think
about the office entrusted to them and

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conduct it properly so as to govern
peaceably and protect the faithful.

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Interesting, preaching publicly even in a
time like this and going into these prayer

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meetings is what this brother here
believes to be some of the success of what

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survived this time.

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Page 13, now I'll go to that.

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I'll do a few more and then I'm going to
stop right before the 30-year war and then

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we'll take a quick break.

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There's a beautiful analogy here of two
brothers, a young man and a young woman,

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and two brothers that were killed.

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This is on page 489 during this time
period.

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Again, this is the Turkish war.

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And I like this brotherhood team.

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You know, when they send out missionaries
two by two, when you do these things,

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the camaraderie that you have in that,
I read that in the Circuit Riders with the

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Methodists and type of thing.

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And here's two young brothers that were
zealous for the Lord and they were killed.

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Here's one and here's another.

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But it's an interesting story how they
give it out to them in 489 of volume 1.

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These two brothers were caught.

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Heinrich and Jacob were beset with 24
ministers who tried to make them waver in

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their faith and recant.

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But even with their combined efforts,
they made no headway against the brothers,

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nor could they convict them of any
wrongdoing, much less find any just reason

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to put them to death.

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So they go on doing these different
things.

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When the dear brothers heard that their
hour had come, they rejoiced and was

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undismayed, saying it was an even greater
joy to them than celebrating a wedding.

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Again, this analogy comes through.

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Yes, they were of such courage because God
made them worthy to die for the truth in

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praise of His name, like many servants and
saints of God before them who attained the

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heavenly crown.

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Now here's the way this happened.

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When they were led out, they spoke
courageously to the great crowd that had

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gathered, admonishing them to repent from
their sinful life and turn to God.

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The two brothers began to sing with
overflowing hearts, lifting their voices

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in a lovely song of praise to the Lord.

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Those present told us that the people were
startled and shaken to hear them sing

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together so joyfully.

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Many of that great gathering wept as they
heard the singing.

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It touched their hearts that the brothers
should have such an inner joy and peace in

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the very moment of meeting death.

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Eternal joy had already blazed up in them
because they were to be with Abraham,

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Isaac and Jacob, with the patriarchs and
all the holy ones, with all the prophets

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and apostles, and with the Lord and with
the faithful brothers and the sisters

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already.

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Yes, with Jesus Christ Himself their
Redeemer forever and ever.

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They sang until they came to the edge of
the water where they were to be drowned.

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Then Heinrich said, My brother Jacob,
my brother Jacob, we have traveled long

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and far together, so now together still
let us pass through this temporal death

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into the life of the world beyond.

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The executioner took brother Jacob Mendel
first and pushed him under the water.

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This one here.

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And pushed him under the water.

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When he was dead, the executioner pulled
him out and laid him in front of Heinrich

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saying, My dear Heinrich, and there he is
appealing, My dear Heinrich, take a look

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at your brother who has lost his life.

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Recant or you must die too.

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There is no other way.

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But Heinrich said, I will never recant and
desert the divine truth.

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I will remain firm even if it costs my
life.

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And you know what happened.

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So impressive stories of the zeal and the
tenacity of these brothers as they went

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on.

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Again a little missionary on page 503
there is a mention there I was going to

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say that they are talking about sending
the missionaries to burn.

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Remember we talked about burn and they
were starting to make those laws against

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the Anabaptist missionaries.

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We see some of those in that time period
around burn.

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It was an interesting thing.

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I just threw this out.

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It doesn't really tie to our story,
but I just thought it was really curious.

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I wrote here Hebrew letters on the grapes.

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I don't know.

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I have no idea what this... this is like a
diary.

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Remember this guy is just writing stuff
that he saw.

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And this is in 1602.

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He woke up one morning and he said,
beautiful Hebrew writing was found on the

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grapes in many places.

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It was so skillfully done that no one
could have painted it better and each one

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was different from the other.

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Strange.

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It lists that.

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It's the kind of thing that comes out in
the chronicles.

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Just little things like that.

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Also they go through the concept of this
time and praying and stopping for the

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battles.

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And some of the generals and things
comment that there's no way this

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particular battle could have been stopped
if it wasn't for the intercession of these

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brothers that were praying.

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The brothers and sisters that were
praying.

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And there's 579 and 588 there's all this
coming out.

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And during this war then, and still,
on page 597,

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this brother Conrad Blousey, a servant of
the word, was traveling in Switzerland

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that year with three of his brothers and
keeping with the task of the brotherhood,

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they were sent to gather God's people for
his church.

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They were on their way back to the
community, but brother Conrad had not

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taken to heart the warnings that they had
been given him and they were captured and

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probably killed.

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Just again, these little examples of the
different things.

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And then I'm going to give you this one
quote and then we're going to take a

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break.

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So now we're into this Turkish war and
we're about to get into perhaps their

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hardest time.

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And it's interesting as it's mentioned
there in the Chronicles.

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Actually they mention every time a comment
comes, but here's to give you an example

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of one of them.

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Page 632 in volume 1.

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They finish this phase and he said this,
he wrote, "...On November 29, 1618,

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around 4 o'clock in the morning,
an extraordinary comet appeared.

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It was a brilliant and had a very long
tail, such as is rarely seen.

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After that, it appeared each morning a
little earlier until it rose exactly at

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midnight.

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The time when it rose changed gradually
from morning to midnight and from midnight

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to evening.

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This covered a period of four weeks,
namely from November 29th until the end of

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December.

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It was watched with great awe and terror
and was last seen close to the North Star

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where it faded away.

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In the year following, we were to learn
what much suffering and sorrow what it had

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signified." Take a break and we'll see.

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We'll go into the 30-year war.

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Okay, welcome back.

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What we get to now is this 30-year war
period with the Hutterites.

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And again, the 30-year war, I don't have
time to get into the details of that,

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but it was a war between the Catholics and
the Protestants.

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And who was going to rule these nations
and these areas?

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Was this going to be a Catholic kingdom or
a Protestant kingdom and they went back

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and forth.

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And again, you still have the Ottoman
Empire trying to make its way up at the

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same time and kind of watching to see what
the Christians are going to do to

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themselves.

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And then the Hutterites are in the middle
of all this and really, in this day and

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age, you could probably not be in a worse
place.

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And that's why I call them, you'll see at
the end of this, I call them the Marine

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Corps of the Anabaptists because this is
the irregima of the Anabaptists when they

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went through all these different times.

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I have here written on my paper,
in 1618 the 30-year war began and by 1622

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Cardinal von Dietrichstein expelled the
Hutterites from Arabia and they moved

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southeast to Slovakia.

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The 30-year war was still raging and
Hutterite communities were the prime

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target for plundering, pillaging,
burning, and looting.

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And one particular thing happened that was
bad news for the Hutterites and that was

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the Battle of White Mountain to give you a
little bit of world history.

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The Battle of White Mountain.

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What this was, all the different,
you remember Moravia was always a little

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bit more independent in these things and
so who was going to fight these Catholic

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lords?

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And so there was a big battle where,
I think I gave the numbers here,

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30,000 Bohemian and mercenaries from the
Protestant side and they were up against

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27,000 by Ferdinand II representing the
Holy Roman Empire and the Catholic side.

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And it was a huge battle and the Battle of
White Mountain and unfortunately for the

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Hutterites, the Protestants lost.

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And after that, all hope of any kind of
this protection from the lords of their

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areas was just come to a ruin.

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And that's when in 1622, that was 1620,
November 8, 1620 and 1622 is when the

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Cardinal Dietrich Stein just said,
out with all of you.

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Out with all of you.

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And it was a very pitiful, pitiful time.

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And so again, these were very,
very hard times.

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Let me just thumb through.

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I'm just going to thumb through this just
to kind of get you a sample of the journal

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entries that they put in here.

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It's just pitiful.

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Okay, terrible remorseless punishment came
to us and that was the chastening of God's

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people.

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October 30, the community at Frischau was
plundered twice.

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October 31, Trott was plundered.

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I'm just going down here.

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August 9, the house at Wiederstatten and
its old mill was destroyed.

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15, 19, September 18, another one
destroyed.

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Fire set here.

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September 19, they go through.

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On September 24, a tragic thing occurred.

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Our fugitives from Fribitz were trying to
return home and put their nursing mothers,

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their old, their sick and their children
from both Austerlitz and Littenitz into 12

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wagons from which they fled.

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But they were massacred, they were
destroyed and terrible things happened

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there.

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Turning the page, a whole mob of peasants
then began to run into the community and

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took the flour, the meat, the salt,
the cheese and began to take everything

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that was there.

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In some places when the enemy was gone,
the peasants were even worse because they

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were also being plundered in their towns
and so they came into our towns.

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People always say when you get into
non-resistance debates of, well,

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what would you do if the Muslims would
take over America or the Hitler would not

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have been stopped?

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What would you do if you are not going to
resist yourself and then people are going

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to take your food?

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Yeah, been there, done that.

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It is the theology of martyrdom and we can
see that it's not just a theory.

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We've been through that as an Anabaptist
people and not just the Hutterites but

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other groups have done this as well,
but this is graphically preserved for us

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because of the Chronicles.

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He says, it is impossible to overstate the
depth of the need and pain we suffered.

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When all human hope is gone, we fervently
pray to God.

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God oppose the enemy and change their fury
into kindness towards the devout.

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Let us all the more thank the Lord as long
as we live for his deliverance and the

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good that he has done to us.

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Let our lives be more dedicated and holy
so that he has no need to bring still

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harsher chastisement to us.

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Again, just going flipping through here.

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Killed here, wars here, worse and worse to
all the nations of the countries revolted.

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March 25th, they shot a baby in his
mother's arm, injured the brothers and

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sisters, plundered a house, struck a child
dead in his father's arm, cruelly tortured

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several others, murdered 52 brothers as
well as sister and the child.

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One was burned, got pulled, tortured some
brothers terribly, in particular Heinrich

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Schutzer was burned with red hot iron.

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Wounds were cut in his thigh, then
gunpowder was poured into the wound and

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caught on fire.

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These people, he said, I don't even
understand.

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He said, they are claiming to be
Christians.

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Even the Turks, the Muslims wouldn't do
this.

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It is heartbreaking.

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More than human nature could stand.

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He goes on, such horrible shootings and
slashings followed the captives could

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scarcely describe it.

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He goes into the things in the Battle of
White Mountain.

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That was before the Battle of White
Mountain.

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Then it got worse.

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Different people were going over the
mountains, freezing to death in the

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mountains, overwhelmed by fear and despair
in these different areas and taken

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prisoner.

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Some from the community were taken
prisoner and helped up a barricade and

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throw up on the barricade.

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Shot a lady and a boy three or four years
old.

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And it is just, I mean, it is page after
page of this.

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All we could do was to commit everything
to God, including this outrage and

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violence that we suffered.

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Oftentimes our greatest fear and need God
provided in a merciful way.

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Beyond all human comprehension,
He promotes generals, completely unknown

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to us, generals of foreign nations and
languages to help us in this way or that.

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They saw God's hand in different things
and were very blessed with it.

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Two hundred and thirty people killed over
here and hurt over there.

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Then a famine came.

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There was disaster.

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It stopped raining and there was famine.

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Destruction.

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March 6, somebody was dying here.

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Another one there.

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March 21, the steward, the servant,
he died.

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But then in the midst of all this,
and I just couldn't believe that.

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So here it is now, 1622.

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So in the middle of this disaster,
everything is falling apart.

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They are barely living.

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This year too, we followed the example of
our forefathers by sending out several

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brothers into various places in Germany.

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In the middle of all that, there was
something inside them that they believed

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that part of who they were as Christians
had to spread the gospel.

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And even in the midst of this thirty year
war of absolute pillage and tyranny,

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they still did this.

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They even comment on it.

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They went, this is page 678 in volume 1.

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They went to seek those on fire for the
truth and to call people to repentance.

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It amazed many people in Bohemia where
both hostile armies were encamped as well

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as in Germany that our defenseless members
set out in a time of such terrible danger

51:31.530 --> 51:36.370
when scarcely anyone, whether of high or
low estate, could travel in safety.

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But the Lord was their protector and they
relied on Him alone when their task was

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completed through the intercession of His
people.

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He often then brought them home again
safe.

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Praising God for that.

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So, amazing.

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It still goes on.

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At one place, on page 678, they were
mixing clay with their food to try to help

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survive and just literally starving to
death.

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They're being spelled out.

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Again, I have just written pages here.

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Page 765, 766, 769, 770.

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Again, each one they're talking about
sending out missionaries, sending out

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missionaries, sending out missionaries.

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It's almost as if these brothers knew,
if we stop, if we stop the mission

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activity, if we stop the forward advance
of the gospel, we're going to deteriorate.

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We're going to start falling apart.

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We're going to start, we're going to start
to die.

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And when they saw lots of people dying,
literally, and then also during this

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persecution, they're mentioning here,
there are oftentimes a lot of people

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recanted.

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I mean, it happened a lot.

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People left.

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People said, that's enough.

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Even back when they were saying you had to
just be in living in caves and digging

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holes.

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Many of them said, that's not for me.

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Thanks.

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And recanted to the faith.

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And so for all those people, they had to
keep going and keep going.

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And this is where that Semper Fi of the
Anabaptists really shows itself in their

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tenacious attitude to keep things going.

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At this point, we're coming to the end of
the 30 year war.

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And it was in 1648, and it was good,
but they were still in a bad place.

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Even after the war ended in 1648,
Catholics controlled most of Hungary.

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So there was renewed religious
persecution, torture, whippings,

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and book burnings were among the
convergent methods used by the Jesuit

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priest.

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This is also a time, if you know your
church history, or your world history,

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that the Ottoman Empire now was coming up
and expanding, and they had taken actually

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Vienna.

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They took it and held it for a few months.

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And this was like the point of world
history that could have went one way or

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the other.

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During this time, it's interesting in the
Chronicles, and the footnotes in the

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Chronicles back this up in records,
that building up to this taking of Vienna,

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there was one time a 15 pound hailstorm
was coming up and coming down on the area.

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It was documented both in the Chronicles
and in different times.

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Huge different storms and things like that
that was happening.

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There was an earthquake, and lots of
comets, just like this.

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That might have been actually one of these
in this time.

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The comets were being seen.

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When I read that, when I considered what
was happening in world history at the

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time, and I think back of Daniel and the
battles that go on in heaven when we pray

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and Daniel fights.

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I just can't help but think there was some
powerful warfare going on in the heavens

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during this time.

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In 1665, there's these.

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They have a prayer meeting here.

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They're talking about these different
things.

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And finally, they continue to be beat
down, continue to be persecuted.

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It was interesting.

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One thing they also mention, again getting
close to the time of the taking of Vienna.

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They go out and one time he writes in his
Chronicles that many people in the city

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saw a great sword in the sky pointed
towards the east.

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He said, I don't know what this means.

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God knows its meaning.

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And then a pillar.

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And lots of different things were
happening in this time period.

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It must have been pretty interesting.

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And when you think of all the
ramifications that would have happened if

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the Ottoman Empire would have continued to
take the western world.

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I just imagine there's a lot more that was
happening than just fighting on the

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ground.

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Yeah, they were.

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Particularly where they're going now,
they're getting there.

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But when they went down to Hungary,
the Ottoman had already taken part of

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Hungary and Yugoslavia.

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And when they were scattering out,
they were getting into these places.

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And now, where they're going from now,
and this next step, is entirely into

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Turkish areas.

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Yeah,

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I know.

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Yeah, amen.

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And you see this, and they even say that
in one of these quotes here that when they

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get over, they're about to make this
decision now to go over into Transylvania.

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And they say, it's better here than it was
with the Catholics and the Protestants.

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And the Muslims was actually taking better
care of them.

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So, interestingly enough.

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So finally, they get through this,
they're beaten down, beaten down,

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finally people are leaving, but then
they're getting the missionaries,

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getting, and finally they get to the very
end, and volume one closes with this

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appeal to the Dutch Mennonites.

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And saying, help, help, we're dying,
we're starving to death.

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And there's this letter that's written to
the Dutch Mennonites, which I appreciate,

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because they call them brother and that
type of thing.

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And a lot of these early guys in their
zeal, the Swiss brethren were the same,

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certainly the Dutch in their early days
were the same, and the Hutterites were the

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same, that was kind of the, we're it
personality.

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And I like to see at the end of this,
if there's one thing that God gave them

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through all that great persecution was a
humility to say, help.

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And they wrote to the Dutch, and the Dutch
did beautifully help them financially.

57:24.830 --> 57:31.430
And in that letter, at the end of volume
one, they mention a lot about the idea of,

57:31.430 --> 57:36.290
the idea of calling them brother and that
type of thing.

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So I appreciate that.

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You know, and I think that just like we
need a brotherhood, my personal feeling

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that brotherhoods need each other.

57:46.330 --> 57:50.230
And it's good to help one another,
encourage one another, hold each other

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accountable.

57:51.670 --> 57:54.230
And that's the kind of thing that happened
with them.

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All right, so now we go on.

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And this tenacious group of people is
still trying to limp on and keep going and

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keep going.

58:04.450 --> 58:09.890
But the hard times keep falling on.

58:09.990 --> 58:14.250
In 1685, I wrote, after constant torturing
and robbing, the Hutterites gave up

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community of goods.

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They still had the lair and other church
services, but community of goods was

58:20.070 --> 58:20.690
abandoned.

58:21.430 --> 58:24.330
And so after all that, they said,
okay, let's break this up.

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Let's meet in our little homes.

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We'll still have a common area.

58:27.250 --> 58:29.430
They still read the lair.

58:29.510 --> 58:30.230
They had the teachings.

58:30.470 --> 58:34.810
They had these different things,
but they said, we've got to just survive

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here.

58:35.950 --> 58:40.270
In 1688, all the Hutterite babies,
the Catholics kept coming in here.

58:40.530 --> 58:44.670
Now, before they went to this area,
the Transylvania area, building up to

58:44.670 --> 58:48.310
that, sorry, that the Catholics were
coming in and sending Jesuits into their

58:48.310 --> 58:49.770
place and persecuting them.

58:50.150 --> 58:53.510
And it was some very hard times,
very hard times indeed.

58:54.610 --> 58:58.790
And this is where the Chronicles turns
very honest.

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Well, I hope it all was, but very,
not honest, but very humbly revealing of

59:05.330 --> 59:11.990
what Johannes Waldner began to talk about
some of this time period.

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I'm going to read to you a few of those
things.

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So as they were trying to make their way
through this time, the Catholics now who

59:22.710 --> 59:27.090
had full control were trying to get at
them and do things to them.

59:27.270 --> 59:32.190
And after they were already beat down so
much, it did begin to start to wear on

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them.

59:33.130 --> 59:37.310
And I have here in 272,

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and on page 271 of volume two,
large numbers left the brotherhood until

59:50.540 --> 59:54.080
at last the community was remained,
was ruined.

59:54.160 --> 59:55.480
And it almost came to an end.

59:56.100 --> 59:59.660
One third of the people died that year and
things were getting bad.

01:00:00.220 --> 01:00:07.560
1622, he goes up and just makes a little
brief walking through some of these hard

01:00:07.560 --> 01:00:08.000
times.

01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:12.660
He comes to this passage in 272,
he says the Hutterian church nearly came

01:00:12.660 --> 01:00:17.920
to the same point where it lost everything
because it had left its first love.

01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:24.980
And as lost the first purity and
integrity, the Lord removed its lampstand

01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:26.080
from its place.

01:00:26.720 --> 01:00:27.120
Interesting.

01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:28.920
That was from their own words.

01:00:29.220 --> 01:00:34.120
Johannes Waltner said that he believed
that this was happening.

01:00:34.260 --> 01:00:38.500
He said the brothers and sisters no longer
gave such a clear witness of godliness and

01:00:38.500 --> 01:00:40.700
dedication as in the early days.

01:00:41.580 --> 01:00:43.760
Things were bad here.

01:00:45.820 --> 01:00:48.560
They started to be able to not organize.

01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:50.460
They weren't raising up other leaders.

01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:52.700
They weren't getting their message across.

01:00:54.040 --> 01:00:59.440
And it was a hard task for their teachers,
but things went from bad to worse.

01:01:00.140 --> 01:01:03.700
He mentioned things like sleeping during
the meetings, sleeping in church.

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:05.260
Hard rebukes were given.

01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:06.720
People were lazy.

01:01:06.920 --> 01:01:09.160
People were basically losing their vision.

01:01:09.160 --> 01:01:12.960
They were beaten down to the point where
they were beginning to lose their vision.

01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:18.280
A revealing thing in 284, it says to make
the matter clear, dear brothers,

01:01:18.540 --> 01:01:21.380
Johannes Waltner is writing this later to
future generations.

01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:26.780
To make the matter clear, dear brothers,
the church is and must be established by

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:28.100
the Holy Spirit.

01:01:28.820 --> 01:01:34.520
It is the only place where the true
brotherly love of the church can be

01:01:34.520 --> 01:01:37.720
practiced fairly and impartially.

01:01:38.160 --> 01:01:44.480
And he begins to see just this lack of the
indwelling place of the Holy Spirit.

01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:50.880
He rebukes him for slander and gossip and
the problem that the gossip is causing

01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:51.220
them.

01:01:54.620 --> 01:01:58.580
He talks about the different clothes they
are getting into, the different attitudes

01:01:58.580 --> 01:01:59.720
they are following the world.

01:02:00.040 --> 01:02:04.700
And he finally gets to this beautiful
prayer found on page 303.

01:02:05.180 --> 01:02:13.060
And Johannes Waltner says, O Lord God
Almighty, grant that we may once more know

01:02:13.060 --> 01:02:20.640
a time when you daily add to your church
those who are being saved, so that our

01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:22.240
hearts may rejoice in it.

01:02:22.620 --> 01:02:29.140
How old and how barren has grown Sarah,
Abraham's wife, your church, who ought to

01:02:29.140 --> 01:02:33.980
have children, to bear children for
eternal life, that your praise may be

01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:35.360
proclaimed on earth.

01:02:36.180 --> 01:02:41.120
You see, he is noticing that after all
that wear it down and wear it down and

01:02:41.120 --> 01:02:43.880
wear it down, finally they are getting to
the point where they are just losing the

01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:44.220
vision.

01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:48.380
They are going on and Johannes Waltner is
the elder here and he is just bemoaning

01:02:48.380 --> 01:02:55.220
that we don't have that spirit and we need
to somehow return and get that kind of

01:02:55.220 --> 01:02:55.900
spirit again.

01:02:58.420 --> 01:03:01.560
He then talks about the idea of the
Jesuits.

01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:05.800
To make matters worse, the Catholics were
then sending Jesuits in and forced them

01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:09.260
onto the community and make agreements
with them.

01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:10.240
And here was one of the agreements.

01:03:10.700 --> 01:03:14.920
In page 310, the Jesuits refused to
release some imprisoned brothers unless

01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:21.380
the whole congregation signed an agreement
to attend church and have their small

01:03:21.380 --> 01:03:22.280
children baptized.

01:03:24.140 --> 01:03:28.240
So it was bad already, you are losing the
fire, the lamp stand is practically gone,

01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:29.720
Johannes Waltner I guess said it was gone.

01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.640
And then this Jesuit attack says,
ok I will let your brothers go if you sign

01:03:35.640 --> 01:03:35.940
this.

01:03:36.620 --> 01:03:39.820
In the end the people signed it and the
people were set free.

01:03:40.540 --> 01:03:45.560
That is how easily they gave up true
Christian baptism, signing against their

01:03:45.560 --> 01:03:49.680
own hearts and consciences because they
were not willing to suffer for God and His

01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:51.160
truth, the Chronicles write.

01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:56.840
And then this one after they finally do
that first baptism, someone is watching it

01:03:56.840 --> 01:04:04.120
and it says here, the brothers and
therefore returned home after the elder

01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:08.340
was deeply sorry for what he had done,
when the local priest came to the first

01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:10.000
time to baptize a baby.

01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:16.080
This man is looking through a window and
Jacob Pullman saw him through a window and

01:04:16.080 --> 01:04:20.800
cried out, oh woe is me, what have I done?

01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:26.080
And they realize we have let it all go,
it is gone, I am letting our babies get

01:04:26.080 --> 01:04:30.200
baptized, this minister is watching this
and how did it get to this point?

01:04:32.260 --> 01:04:36.040
A disturbance followed from all that,
they rushed and attacked the pastor and

01:04:36.040 --> 01:04:41.880
all different things, it was just like
non-stop letting up, it just went from bad

01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:45.200
to bad to bad with all these different
things.

01:04:46.260 --> 01:04:50.760
They sent more Jesuits in at different
times, they made an agreement to come to

01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:56.240
them and to let them into their church and
it was terrible.

01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:04.460
Finally they had a group of them made to
Transylvania to Hermenstadt in

01:05:04.460 --> 01:05:07.320
Transylvania and began to get there.

01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:14.340
There the Jesuits asked to come in there
and they allowed the Jesuits to preach.

01:05:14.460 --> 01:05:18.120
The preacher said, okay, just let me come
in and I will talk to your people and if

01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:20.820
you agree to do that, the preacher made
the mistake and let the Jesuit come into

01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:21.960
their church and preach.

01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:26.060
He mentions in the Chronicles that he was
faking and crying and saying, you brothers

01:05:26.060 --> 01:05:31.820
just don't understand the truth and began
to explain to him from the Catholic faith

01:05:31.820 --> 01:05:35.200
to them and they were so weakened and so
lacking in their understanding that they

01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:35.620
bought it.

01:05:35.940 --> 01:05:39.600
He said, yeah, alright, and they left and
they became Catholics.

01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:47.160
And so worse and worse and it was just
beaten down and made to a last where it

01:05:47.160 --> 01:05:49.080
was finally hardly anything left.

01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:57.620
And then he says this, finally

01:06:02.250 --> 01:06:07.310
he gets to that point, he says,
now it has come to a complete ruin.

01:06:07.690 --> 01:06:10.950
He says, now I continue telling how God
the Lord did not let the light of the

01:06:10.950 --> 01:06:14.830
divine truth die down and be entirely
extinguished.

01:06:15.110 --> 01:06:21.730
To the praise and glory of his name he
left a tiny spark alive and kept it alive

01:06:21.730 --> 01:06:24.890
to this very day and can be found in the
following history.

01:06:25.590 --> 01:06:30.410
So here again, a bad time in their life
and they had got to a point where things

01:06:30.410 --> 01:06:36.330
were very bad and it looked like things
were going nowhere and there was about 50

01:06:36.330 --> 01:06:37.610
Hutterites left.

01:06:38.570 --> 01:06:43.870
At one time 50,000 or 40,000 or so,
30 at least, we're down to 50.

01:06:44.190 --> 01:06:45.670
Beaten down to almost nothing.

01:06:46.730 --> 01:06:47.390
Almost nothing.

01:06:47.930 --> 01:06:48.790
And then this happened.

01:06:51.590 --> 01:06:58.710
In 1755, well in 1752 it says that the
Hutterites were here in the Chronicles.

01:06:58.870 --> 01:07:02.850
They began to have these revivals that
were going on in the eastern side of

01:07:02.850 --> 01:07:03.250
Germany.

01:07:03.910 --> 01:07:06.910
And people started to get a hold of these
writings of Luther and they started

01:07:06.910 --> 01:07:11.550
talking about faith and there was a group
of people that were gathering together and

01:07:11.550 --> 01:07:12.390
they got revived.

01:07:12.910 --> 01:07:16.350
And it says here that they got a hold of
these Lutheran books and they got a hold

01:07:16.350 --> 01:07:18.190
of these things and they said,
wow this is exciting.

01:07:18.830 --> 01:07:23.750
And on page 369 volume 2, these books and
writings were introduced to the

01:07:23.750 --> 01:07:26.070
Corinthians, that's the eastern wayside of
Germany.

01:07:26.630 --> 01:07:30.610
And the mid 18th century, although they
were brought in secretly, they produced a

01:07:30.610 --> 01:07:32.490
great fervent and revival.

01:07:33.070 --> 01:07:37.790
Many peasants stopped attending church and
read the Bible and other books in their

01:07:37.790 --> 01:07:38.410
homes instead.

01:07:38.870 --> 01:07:43.490
They also began holding secret meetings at
night for the joy of hearing God's word.

01:07:43.690 --> 01:07:48.230
Many others went long distance through the
dark and rain, snow and wind.

01:07:48.270 --> 01:07:51.250
In these meetings they prayed,
read the Bible and other books,

01:07:51.390 --> 01:07:52.310
sang and talked together.

01:07:52.790 --> 01:07:56.690
This was happening not only in one place
but spread nearly to every judicial

01:07:56.690 --> 01:08:00.330
district in Corinthian and for instance
this area around these different places.

01:08:00.490 --> 01:08:03.990
There was a big revival that was happening
in this far east Germany.

01:08:06.190 --> 01:08:07.430
So they got a hold of these things.

01:08:07.530 --> 01:08:10.570
Regarding such books therefore,
people started finding these books and

01:08:10.570 --> 01:08:11.650
they said they were very dangerous.

01:08:11.770 --> 01:08:14.510
So the Catholics got everybody's books and
they stamped it.

01:08:14.570 --> 01:08:18.990
Unless it had the king stamped on this
book then we were going to consider it

01:08:18.990 --> 01:08:19.990
illegal.

01:08:20.670 --> 01:08:23.110
But then they stopped going to church.

01:08:23.270 --> 01:08:25.830
They started meeting in their little
cottage services and you know what the

01:08:25.830 --> 01:08:26.310
story is.

01:08:26.570 --> 01:08:27.670
They finally were arrested.

01:08:28.050 --> 01:08:28.710
It was interesting.

01:08:28.850 --> 01:08:32.610
One of the things that they said when they
were mad about all these revived people

01:08:32.610 --> 01:08:36.910
reading these books and the Bibles,
this one guy said, he says nothing is kept

01:08:36.910 --> 01:08:38.990
in its proper place anymore, this Catholic
judge.

01:08:39.390 --> 01:08:43.730
He said many people have the effrontery to
meddle in matters not fitting for them.

01:08:43.850 --> 01:08:47.930
A farmer or head of the family should have
a plow, whip or ox goat in his hand.

01:08:48.050 --> 01:08:48.670
Not a book.

01:08:48.950 --> 01:08:52.530
His wife should have a cooking spoon and
household keys.

01:08:52.830 --> 01:08:53.510
Not a book.

01:08:53.790 --> 01:08:57.470
A farm laborer should have a hoe,
woodcutter's axe, flail or manure fort.

01:08:57.750 --> 01:08:58.410
Not a book.

01:08:58.690 --> 01:09:02.270
A servant girl should be at the spinning
wheel feeding the pigs or similar work,

01:09:02.470 --> 01:09:04.150
not occupied with a book.

01:09:04.510 --> 01:09:08.230
But now no one is content with a rifle
station and work.

01:09:08.430 --> 01:09:09.890
Everybody wants to be a priest.

01:09:10.530 --> 01:09:13.690
And that was their attitude of dealing
with these things.

01:09:14.210 --> 01:09:20.650
These people then, the empress at that
time said she was kind of nice and she

01:09:20.650 --> 01:09:29.010
allowed them then to be gone to the far
end of her domain there.

01:09:30.030 --> 01:09:31.630
Let me catch where I'm at here.

01:09:33.990 --> 01:09:37.630
They experienced a miraculous revival in
the stringent attempt to Catholicize her

01:09:37.630 --> 01:09:39.090
empire.

01:09:39.390 --> 01:09:44.710
Empress Maria Theresa, not to be confused
with Mother Teresa, Maria Theresa had

01:09:44.710 --> 01:09:47.710
deported these Lutherans to the remote
borders of her empire.

01:09:47.890 --> 01:09:51.770
She allowed the revived Lutherans to
practice their religion but only in the

01:09:51.770 --> 01:09:53.430
fringes of her domain.

01:09:54.030 --> 01:09:55.510
However, these were different.

01:09:55.630 --> 01:09:58.130
These were some names that started to come
in as part of this revival.

01:09:58.490 --> 01:10:01.690
Some people called the Waldners,
the Hoffers, the Kleinsassers,

01:10:01.810 --> 01:10:04.230
the Glanzers, the Wurzs and perhaps even
more.

01:10:04.570 --> 01:10:08.310
But the thing is she said I'll let you go
there but I want you if you go there to

01:10:08.310 --> 01:10:10.170
swear an oath of allegiance to me.

01:10:12.810 --> 01:10:14.730
Well, these people were a little
different.

01:10:15.190 --> 01:10:18.590
They said well we've been reading the
Bible and Jesus says you can't swear

01:10:18.590 --> 01:10:19.110
oaths.

01:10:19.370 --> 01:10:20.250
So we can't do that.

01:10:20.650 --> 01:10:23.510
I'll give you free farms, I'll give you
free land, I'll let you go there and even

01:10:23.510 --> 01:10:26.210
give you free land if you swear an oath.

01:10:26.630 --> 01:10:30.450
And they said well how can you make me do
something if it's not in God's word.

01:10:30.930 --> 01:10:31.770
And they didn't do it.

01:10:32.250 --> 01:10:36.930
So because of that they started then to
work amongst the brothers.

01:10:37.750 --> 01:10:42.510
They had to get menial jobs and they
started meeting up with some of the last

01:10:42.510 --> 01:10:43.870
remnant of the Hutterites.

01:10:44.330 --> 01:10:48.870
And now you can turn over to the second
handout here and I'll hurry up.

01:10:50.850 --> 01:10:55.250
And as they were there with these other,
they started to look at these other

01:10:55.250 --> 01:10:58.050
others, they started to be impressed with
their life.

01:10:58.690 --> 01:11:01.890
And as they were impressed with their life
they started to know more.

01:11:02.210 --> 01:11:05.970
And as they wanted to know more they
started showing them some different works.

01:11:06.570 --> 01:11:09.750
And even though they weren't meeting with
the Hutterites anymore, as Hutterite

01:11:10.290 --> 01:11:13.370
colonies anymore, they still had church
services and they gave them Peter

01:11:13.370 --> 01:11:15.170
Ritterman's writing, they gave them
certain things.

01:11:15.710 --> 01:11:18.190
And these brothers started to get excited.

01:11:18.670 --> 01:11:22.050
And they started to say, wow, this is
pretty interesting.

01:11:22.470 --> 01:11:23.630
Tell us more about this.

01:11:23.930 --> 01:11:26.910
And they went home and they compared it to
the gospel and they read it with the

01:11:26.910 --> 01:11:29.230
gospel and they read it with these
writings and they got more excited.

01:11:29.610 --> 01:11:31.650
And they said well, let's do it.

01:11:32.490 --> 01:11:36.930
So they got everybody together,
they got them excited, and on volume 2,

01:11:37.010 --> 01:11:41.610
page 385, it mentions they met at Andreas
Wirt's house and they began to have the

01:11:41.610 --> 01:11:44.750
church service there and things were going
great.

01:11:45.110 --> 01:11:48.350
And they started to have a new revival of
these people.

01:11:49.670 --> 01:11:54.850
As they went on and started meeting,
it was impressive.

01:11:55.410 --> 01:11:57.990
There was one already arrested quickly
named Michael Hoffer.

01:11:58.050 --> 01:11:58.890
He died in prison.

01:11:59.250 --> 01:12:03.070
So as soon as they got started again,
as soon as they grabbed some of the cubs

01:12:03.070 --> 01:12:05.650
from the lions, the persecution happened
again.

01:12:06.150 --> 01:12:07.530
And they began to come down on them.

01:12:09.550 --> 01:12:14.810
And then, so you have this first
generation people revived, on fire for the

01:12:14.810 --> 01:12:17.830
Lord, and now they're starting this
movement back again and they want to do

01:12:17.830 --> 01:12:17.950
it.

01:12:18.010 --> 01:12:20.450
But what happens with first generation
Christians?

01:12:25.170 --> 01:12:29.010
What happens a lot of times that we read
about in the first generation of the

01:12:29.010 --> 01:12:30.710
Hutterites and the first generations here?

01:12:33.750 --> 01:12:35.190
They started to have a little fight.

01:12:35.750 --> 01:12:40.030
Andreas Wirt's married this couple that
the rest of the community, another

01:12:40.030 --> 01:12:43.090
community, the church community didn't
like.

01:12:43.490 --> 01:12:46.710
And so they didn't approve of who this boy
was marrying and so they got upset with

01:12:46.710 --> 01:12:46.790
it.

01:12:46.810 --> 01:12:47.890
He said, I'm going to marry her anyway.

01:12:48.430 --> 01:12:52.090
And they started having this big wedding
feast and everything and finally they were

01:12:52.090 --> 01:12:55.930
getting already to the point of a split
already.

01:12:56.490 --> 01:12:58.650
And I know you're thinking, oh no,
here it comes.

01:12:59.170 --> 01:13:03.170
But here's something that I want to show
you for something that we can learn,

01:13:03.390 --> 01:13:03.730
all right?

01:13:04.630 --> 01:13:08.630
And it's June 16, 1765 and they're
starting to this and they're already

01:13:08.630 --> 01:13:09.770
starting to split up again.

01:13:10.270 --> 01:13:14.310
They discipline, one of the communities
want discipline on Andreas Wirt's because

01:13:14.310 --> 01:13:15.670
he didn't listen to them.

01:13:15.910 --> 01:13:18.550
They, of course, with him and all his
people start getting mad and they were

01:13:18.550 --> 01:13:19.250
going to break up.

01:13:19.770 --> 01:13:24.070
So it says on here on page 397,
when the four arrived, they talked with

01:13:24.070 --> 01:13:25.850
the brothers about the division between
them.

01:13:26.290 --> 01:13:30.430
But after a great deal of arguing and each
side insisting their own opinion was

01:13:30.430 --> 01:13:34.110
right, it almost seemed as if nothing
would come of the uniting.

01:13:34.770 --> 01:13:36.830
They had, in fact, already parted.

01:13:37.450 --> 01:13:43.290
Andreas Wirt's and his son-in-law were
setting out for Ebersdorf, the two others

01:13:43.290 --> 01:13:43.970
for Stein.

01:13:44.510 --> 01:13:50.490
And Andreas turned around and said,
they're about to split, and Andreas Wirt's

01:13:50.490 --> 01:13:58.410
turned around and said this, let us submit
completely and think of nothing but making

01:13:58.410 --> 01:13:58.950
peace.

01:13:59.970 --> 01:14:04.850
We are the only brothers in Transylvania
and we can't, and can't the few of us be

01:14:04.850 --> 01:14:05.290
united?

01:14:06.150 --> 01:14:12.690
So finally somebody in a time of passion
decided that they're going to actually

01:14:12.690 --> 01:14:13.270
have peace.

01:14:13.610 --> 01:14:17.050
The three united with Kurtz and with him
and Andreas told the brothers there.

01:14:17.670 --> 01:14:23.130
The three returned to Krutz, the community
with him, and Andreas told the brothers

01:14:23.130 --> 01:14:25.610
there, we have changed our mind,
we want to accept their discipline,

01:14:25.710 --> 01:14:28.030
their correction, and unite with you.

01:14:28.110 --> 01:14:32.390
And so they came back together and was
able to go in a united front.

01:14:32.470 --> 01:14:36.230
So I think that's a rare moment in church
history and I think it deserves,

01:14:36.570 --> 01:14:37.750
let's give them a round of applause.

01:14:37.850 --> 01:14:38.430
Let's hear it.

01:14:39.090 --> 01:14:42.790
Instead of splitting, they got together
and came together.

01:14:42.890 --> 01:14:44.010
I think that's incredible.

01:14:45.310 --> 01:14:47.050
Wish we could learn that spirit.

01:14:47.050 --> 01:14:52.290
Alright, they're keeping going and yes,
it never stops.

01:14:52.390 --> 01:14:53.230
It never stops.

01:14:53.790 --> 01:14:58.830
They're going through the different things
and now finally they get up to the point

01:14:58.830 --> 01:15:03.630
where they're planning on, people are
saying, well we're going to take your

01:15:03.630 --> 01:15:07.850
children and we're going to put them in
orphanages.

01:15:07.950 --> 01:15:09.230
They say we've got to get out of here.

01:15:09.770 --> 01:15:11.650
And so finally they plan an escape.

01:15:11.950 --> 01:15:14.630
A miraculous thing happens that they were
able to leave the prison.

01:15:15.010 --> 01:15:24.170
Many of them were arrested and put in
prison and they were allowed to escape in

01:15:24.170 --> 01:15:24.910
broad daylight.

01:15:25.570 --> 01:15:30.710
But finally they got to this point where
where were they going to go?

01:15:31.130 --> 01:15:33.250
Of course it was going and hiding.

01:15:33.530 --> 01:15:34.430
People were after them.

01:15:35.010 --> 01:15:37.630
It was terrible and so they had to leave
at night.

01:15:37.830 --> 01:15:42.750
And the place they had to cross,
you see that picture I have on your map?

01:15:43.250 --> 01:15:47.670
They had to cross these mountains to
finally get to the place where they felt

01:15:47.670 --> 01:15:52.790
was much safer in Islamic countries here
than where they were now.

01:15:53.870 --> 01:15:56.970
And let me read you where they're going.

01:15:57.030 --> 01:16:01.850
So they're going from Transylvania to
Wallachia and here in this area they

01:16:01.850 --> 01:16:02.250
cross.

01:16:02.630 --> 01:16:05.010
And finally they get to this part here
with these mountains and it's an

01:16:05.010 --> 01:16:05.850
impressive story.

01:16:07.410 --> 01:16:12.150
The very same day the guys returned and we
made ready to leave in the evening.

01:16:12.310 --> 01:16:15.090
This is their journal entry before they're
going to one of those peaks.

01:16:16.010 --> 01:16:20.170
It was impossible to take the wagons over
the mountains so we loaded what was

01:16:20.170 --> 01:16:22.430
absolutely necessary into the four horses.

01:16:22.590 --> 01:16:27.310
We unharnessed the four oxen and drove
them with us leaving the empty wagons for

01:16:27.310 --> 01:16:30.490
the guides to bring them customs as
opportunity offered.

01:16:30.970 --> 01:16:35.410
When everything was ready and the sun
began to sink we started on our way again.

01:16:35.930 --> 01:16:37.330
It was October 13th.

01:16:37.790 --> 01:16:41.950
The guides led us through pathless
thickets and wilderness for they knew

01:16:41.950 --> 01:16:43.550
where we would be safe from danger.

01:16:43.750 --> 01:16:46.930
There was a familiar with every path and
hiding place in the mountains.

01:16:47.090 --> 01:16:52.710
The ground began to rise sharply and often
the only way was to clamber upon the hands

01:16:52.710 --> 01:16:53.250
and feet.

01:16:53.550 --> 01:16:57.890
Each of us had to scramble up the best he
could so as not to be left behind.

01:16:58.230 --> 01:17:03.010
In some places it was hard work to bring
the laden horses up the steep slopes.

01:17:03.410 --> 01:17:05.170
The climb went out all night.

01:17:05.390 --> 01:17:10.370
Every reader can imagine how difficult and
exhausting it was with little children on

01:17:10.370 --> 01:17:15.250
our back, with young, old and weak all
struggling up the high mountainside in the

01:17:15.250 --> 01:17:15.990
dark of night.

01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:23.150
All did their utmost using their last drop
of energy without sparing themselves all

01:17:23.150 --> 01:17:27.670
hurried on eager to flee from Babel and
the abomination that causes the

01:17:27.670 --> 01:17:28.390
desolation.

01:17:29.370 --> 01:17:31.810
When we reached the crest we halted a
little while.

01:17:32.670 --> 01:17:35.930
Then our guides told us that we had
already succeeded in crossing over the

01:17:35.930 --> 01:17:39.670
border into Wallachia and were out of
danger.

01:17:40.070 --> 01:17:44.090
We could now release the dogs which we had
kept them so they wouldn't bark.

01:17:44.990 --> 01:17:48.590
And on the top they held a common prayer
and thanked God.

01:17:49.270 --> 01:17:52.950
A little later they found that the
government had already actually had beds

01:17:52.950 --> 01:17:56.730
ready for their children that they were
about to take and put into the orphanages

01:17:56.730 --> 01:17:57.890
to be made into Catholics.

01:17:59.270 --> 01:18:04.790
So they start here, they keep going,
they make it into this area.

01:18:04.930 --> 01:18:09.070
There's an interesting story I don't have
to give you, but again how the problems I

01:18:09.070 --> 01:18:12.450
like in the Chronicles where as soon as
they get into this Islamic area,

01:18:12.890 --> 01:18:16.370
it was an area that the Muslims had taken
over, but they wanted to protect the

01:18:16.370 --> 01:18:17.910
rights of the Orthodox that were there.

01:18:18.490 --> 01:18:22.990
And you couldn't knock over crosses and
things like that.

01:18:23.070 --> 01:18:26.870
Well, as soon as they got into town,
the Chronicler writes, some boys went out

01:18:26.870 --> 01:18:29.190
and started hacking down some crosses and
stuff.

01:18:29.830 --> 01:18:33.090
And he writes in there, and not for
religious reasons.

01:18:34.930 --> 01:18:38.990
And so some of the people saw it,
turned them in, and there was this great

01:18:38.990 --> 01:18:39.310
offense.

01:18:39.390 --> 01:18:45.270
They had to protect their own Muslim
people not to oppress the Greeks and the

01:18:45.270 --> 01:18:47.850
Greek Orthodox people that were there,
the Russian Orthodox that were there.

01:18:48.010 --> 01:18:52.130
And so they came under this charge and so
they wanted to cut their hands off of the

01:18:52.130 --> 01:18:55.350
boys or give something like $50,000 for
each offense.

01:18:55.890 --> 01:18:56.870
And they went back and forth.

01:18:57.150 --> 01:19:01.350
And I appreciate the Chronicler,
I think it might have been Johannes

01:19:01.350 --> 01:19:05.730
Waldner, he wrote, I'm telling this so
future generations can know not to do

01:19:05.730 --> 01:19:06.850
these kinds of things.

01:19:07.150 --> 01:19:09.350
It's terrible when he tells those kinds of
stories.

01:19:10.230 --> 01:19:11.470
It's a blessing.

01:19:12.010 --> 01:19:13.330
So they go through this.

01:19:13.490 --> 01:19:16.530
Again, they fight their way through these
different things.

01:19:16.530 --> 01:19:22.190
And now, unfortunately, the Ottoman now
wants to take Russia.

01:19:23.590 --> 01:19:27.810
And just when they got from one place of
war to another place, now the Ottoman

01:19:27.810 --> 01:19:34.050
Empire is going into Russia and they find
themselves in the Turkish war trying to

01:19:34.050 --> 01:19:34.670
take Russia.

01:19:35.430 --> 01:19:38.270
And back and forth there's terrible
things.

01:19:38.370 --> 01:19:42.250
They say it's even worse than the other
things that were happening to them.

01:19:42.310 --> 01:19:45.270
Some of the things that are so graphic in
the Chronicle that I wrote a warning on my

01:19:45.270 --> 01:19:47.190
pages so that my children don't just pick
it up.

01:19:47.250 --> 01:19:47.830
It's just terrible.

01:19:48.230 --> 01:19:51.110
Some of the things like they would have
these head vices, which would have been a

01:19:51.110 --> 01:19:52.450
nice easy torture device.

01:19:52.550 --> 01:19:58.810
You would just take a strap and turn a
stick like that with a strap around your

01:19:58.810 --> 01:20:02.050
head, you know, like you would do a
tourniquet and then tell you to recant.

01:20:02.410 --> 01:20:06.490
And then he gives the graphic words on
what happened to that person when that's

01:20:06.490 --> 01:20:06.830
happening.

01:20:07.050 --> 01:20:07.710
It's terrible.

01:20:07.710 --> 01:20:15.810
One thing, I'll just read you for the
girl's sake, 473, during this time back

01:20:15.810 --> 01:20:23.170
and forth with the Catholics now and the
Turks and this whole area, on page 473

01:20:23.170 --> 01:20:25.970
there's an interesting story that girls
can appreciate.

01:20:26.930 --> 01:20:27.930
Excuse me, 437.

01:20:37.960 --> 01:20:43.700
One of the robbers had fetched Maria
Nagler, a young sister about 15 years old,

01:20:43.780 --> 01:20:45.560
and brought her out to the school and to
the yard.

01:20:46.080 --> 01:20:49.920
The godless man tormented her,
telling her, make the sign of the cross.

01:20:50.140 --> 01:20:51.340
Meaning, you know, like this.

01:20:51.780 --> 01:20:52.880
Make the sign of the cross.

01:20:56.030 --> 01:20:57.410
Make the sign of the cross.

01:20:57.710 --> 01:20:59.770
She refused point blank to do it.

01:21:00.210 --> 01:21:05.230
The German went up to her and said,
my child, he wants you to cross yourself.

01:21:05.450 --> 01:21:07.810
If you refuse, he'll cut off your head.

01:21:08.430 --> 01:21:09.250
Do you understand that?

01:21:10.390 --> 01:21:14.030
She said, I will not do it.

01:21:14.410 --> 01:21:15.570
I would rather die.

01:21:16.150 --> 01:21:21.110
His tormentor drew his sword as if to
behead her, but when Maria would not let

01:21:21.110 --> 01:21:26.690
herself be intimidated and was ready to
die rather than submit, something in him

01:21:26.690 --> 01:21:29.010
was touched and he left her alone.

01:21:29.490 --> 01:21:34.070
After a while, he looked for her again and
wanted to take her with him, but she had

01:21:34.070 --> 01:21:36.390
hidden herself, however, and didn't fall
into her hands.

01:21:36.630 --> 01:21:37.010
Yikes!

01:21:38.010 --> 01:21:39.070
That would have been bad.

01:21:39.410 --> 01:21:41.730
But just again to show you some of the
tenacity there.

01:21:43.530 --> 01:21:46.650
Again, in the midst of this, they have
different times in their history where

01:21:46.650 --> 01:21:48.730
they're trying to get back together,
trying to not.

01:21:49.310 --> 01:21:51.230
Real quick in page 508.

01:21:51.370 --> 01:21:55.510
I just want to keep this theme going in
page 508.

01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:04.140
Since the situation in Germany provided to
be, as we had heard, God filled many

01:22:04.140 --> 01:22:07.340
brothers with courage and great eagerness
to send two of their numbers into

01:22:07.340 --> 01:22:11.740
countries that we have mentioned to find
out whether there were any zeal and

01:22:11.740 --> 01:22:16.160
longing to learn of God and His truth to
change their lives and to save their souls

01:22:16.160 --> 01:22:17.680
from eternal destruction.

01:22:17.820 --> 01:22:21.620
And they went on and began to continue
their mission activities.

01:22:22.240 --> 01:22:25.080
Through this time, it got harder.

01:22:25.840 --> 01:22:32.040
They finally got into places where it
became disastrous and things again began

01:22:32.040 --> 01:22:37.760
to dwindle and things began to get hard
and they eventually found themselves in...

01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:39.980
they found themselves getting into Russia.

01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:50.620
And in Russia, they meet up with the
Russian Mennonites, which is interesting,

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:55.140
which is interesting in it because it's
kind of like a full circle.

01:22:59.140 --> 01:23:04.540
As we're taking now the Swiss brethren,
they were going from Switzerland over to

01:23:04.540 --> 01:23:09.520
Moravia, now up to Transylvania and
finally we get into Russia.

01:23:10.120 --> 01:23:13.720
We're going to pick up next week,
we're going to go from Holland into Poland

01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:18.860
and all this and through the Dutch and end
up in the same community in Russia.

01:23:19.120 --> 01:23:20.100
And this is where they end up.

01:23:20.140 --> 01:23:24.540
They actually end up with the Russian
Mennonites and essentially become Russian

01:23:24.540 --> 01:23:28.660
Mennonites for a while and again give up
community of goods.

01:23:29.260 --> 01:23:30.800
Until it was finally revived.

01:23:33.120 --> 01:23:37.800
It was brought that to America right at a
time when Russia was beginning to change

01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:43.560
their desire for their rules about
non-resistance.

01:23:43.720 --> 01:23:45.800
First, they had full permission to go up.

01:23:45.820 --> 01:23:47.940
They said no restraints and they came up.

01:23:48.020 --> 01:23:52.320
But when they were there with the Russian
Mennonites in these different colonies and

01:23:52.320 --> 01:23:56.160
we're going to talk about next week
hopefully, it was...

01:23:56.160 --> 01:24:00.520
they became incredibly prosperous and with
that incredible prosperity, there's some

01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:04.260
pretty graphic mistakes said in the
Chronicles about the way of life that they

01:24:04.260 --> 01:24:05.000
had experienced.

01:24:05.580 --> 01:24:10.400
And finally some brothers got together and
said it can't be like this and they

01:24:10.400 --> 01:24:16.560
decided to bring it back again and regain
what they had.

01:24:17.740 --> 01:24:25.400
Those communities was Chortice and Radeva
and also another one that they came... and

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was that the community that you said your
people came?

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Chortice.

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Okay, that's where these brothers had
ended up with.

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And again there's some very honest words
in the Chronicles about how they were

01:24:42.100 --> 01:24:43.020
during this time.

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Malochna was another one that they came
to.

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But finally there was in their wanting...
they would get together.

01:24:52.260 --> 01:24:55.020
There were several talks sometimes about
can we have a community?

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The Russians wouldn't let them have
community of goods.

01:24:57.180 --> 01:25:01.080
They kept trying to argue back and forth
and they were finally able to pull this

01:25:01.080 --> 01:25:04.380
out and they wanted to try to rebuild.

01:25:05.580 --> 01:25:09.060
And again shortly after they did that,
they started coming to America.

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Last page and we'll finish up here is on
page 6 of this next handout.

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These were then... rebuild again.

01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:25.100
The colonies still didn't practice
community of goods but that was about to

01:25:25.100 --> 01:25:25.460
change.

01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:27.680
Michael Waldner was one of the ministers
at the time.

01:25:27.780 --> 01:25:31.840
He experienced a dream where the angels
instructed him to set up a community after

01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:33.980
the pattern of Jesus and the disciples.

01:25:34.420 --> 01:25:36.600
They began to some prayer groups after
this time.

01:25:37.100 --> 01:25:39.160
And after soul searching they realized the
answer.

01:25:39.280 --> 01:25:40.960
They would reestablish the community of
goods.

01:25:41.460 --> 01:25:45.600
And in 1859 community of goods began again
40 years after it was abandoned.

01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:52.020
It's interesting if you ever read on page
666 in the volume 2, they talk about that

01:25:52.020 --> 01:25:55.360
the early one... they had a wrong emphasis
on community.

01:25:55.980 --> 01:26:00.860
And that the emphasis must be on God
itself and to let these things to flow.

01:26:00.980 --> 01:26:04.240
And there's some good words there about
that.

01:26:04.300 --> 01:26:08.600
Michael Waldner was a blacksmith and so
his followers who... the people who

01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.080
accepted community of goods were known as
a Schmiedleite.

01:26:11.540 --> 01:26:14.960
I guess Schmied is blacksmith in
Hutterish.

01:26:14.980 --> 01:26:15.840
Is that right Marcus?

01:26:16.240 --> 01:26:21.180
The next year Darius Walter also
established communal living and they lived

01:26:21.180 --> 01:26:24.180
on the other end of the community and they
were called the Dariusite.

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And the group who hadn't accepted
community of goods lived in the middle and

01:26:27.720 --> 01:26:33.440
both groups immigrated and in a few years
each other in the 1870s.

01:26:33.860 --> 01:26:38.320
And then there was another, a teacher and
his name and because of a teacher they

01:26:38.320 --> 01:26:40.300
also became the Leralites who came later.

01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:42.840
There was one more group too when they did
immigrate to America.

01:26:43.140 --> 01:26:46.900
They were given free lands and free farms
and some of them just took up having those

01:26:46.900 --> 01:26:50.700
farms and they became what's known as a
Prairielite who didn't quite stay together

01:26:50.700 --> 01:26:52.400
as a people and kind of dwindled.

01:26:54.280 --> 01:26:58.220
So that's... it's incredible people and
when we get to America the last week I'm

01:26:58.220 --> 01:27:02.720
going to try to talk about our American
experience and just this thing but just...

01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:04.600
I know I'm running late but just one thing
I want to say.

01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:08.880
What quick things can we learn from the
Hutterites even if you don't like their

01:27:08.880 --> 01:27:10.480
whole way of doing things and that's it.

01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:11.660
Last page.

01:27:12.240 --> 01:27:15.100
The conservative Anabaptist, what can we
learn from the Hutterites still to this

01:27:15.100 --> 01:27:15.360
day?

01:27:16.080 --> 01:27:18.520
The idea of working as a brotherhood.

01:27:19.320 --> 01:27:20.480
One I have on there.

01:27:20.580 --> 01:27:22.420
The idea of working as a brotherhood.

01:27:23.360 --> 01:27:27.320
Not just being independent but coming and
working your life together and sharing in

01:27:27.320 --> 01:27:28.100
one form or another.

01:27:29.200 --> 01:27:33.160
The Hutterites show this obviously through
their history in some wonderful ways.

01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.780
The ability to set a direction and execute
a vision.

01:27:37.420 --> 01:27:41.440
To do that individuals have to lay down
many of their own personal things and be

01:27:41.440 --> 01:27:42.300
able to go forward.

01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:44.480
You can see in their heyday they did that
beautifully.

01:27:45.220 --> 01:27:47.360
The concept of sharing material blessings.

01:27:47.940 --> 01:27:50.280
In one fashion or another I think this is
very important.

01:27:50.440 --> 01:27:51.640
It's part of the teachings of Christ.

01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:56.720
And again I see this in all true
expressions of Anabaptist churches and I

01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:58.780
think that's something that we can learn
from them as well.

01:27:59.360 --> 01:28:04.760
And four, particularly with the beginning,
is a zeal to spread the kingdom of God.

01:28:05.140 --> 01:28:08.500
The one thing that I wanted, the burden of
the whole two days was to see that there

01:28:08.500 --> 01:28:10.520
seemed to be something in the Swiss
brethren.

01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:15.260
There seemed to be something in the spirit
that started with Conrad Grebel and Mons

01:28:15.260 --> 01:28:17.780
and all that in Zurich and it spread to
all these places.

01:28:18.120 --> 01:28:23.340
Is there's just this passion within them
that won't rest until this expresses

01:28:23.340 --> 01:28:26.300
itself in spreading Christ's kingdom to
the world.

01:28:26.980 --> 01:28:31.360
And there was a balance between not just
doing that and not existing, but they had

01:28:31.360 --> 01:28:35.960
the discipleship of a church community,
a church brotherhood, but also the same

01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:38.380
burden to share that and spread that to
the world.

01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:42.880
And they didn't seem to be at odds as much
as we tend to get to in these days.

01:28:43.160 --> 01:28:44.820
So, that's the Hutterites.

01:28:46.240 --> 01:28:51.160
We're going to try to pick up,
there'll be a test Monday and then just

01:28:51.160 --> 01:28:57.580
the four have to come and then after that
we're going to try to go to Holland and

01:28:57.580 --> 01:29:03.180
through Münster and then follow the Dutch
brothers all the way to Russia and see

01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:07.320
kind of an interesting progress as well of
the Russian Mennonites making it.

01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:12.240
And then the last week I'm going to hope
to bring these people to America and then

01:29:12.240 --> 01:29:16.560
we can talk about some of our personal
experiences and the things that we can

01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:21.580
learn and maybe see things that are a
little closer to home and I'll let you

01:29:21.580 --> 01:29:24.420
talk about some of your histories and
things as well.

01:29:24.580 --> 01:29:26.260
So, let's close with a quick word of
prayer.

01:29:27.580 --> 01:29:31.340
Dear Lord, again we thank you for this
example and we pray God that you would

01:29:31.340 --> 01:29:36.680
raise up again today a people that would
be zealous to follow you in this way.

01:29:38.060 --> 01:29:44.460
Oh God, may we not get off balance but
look at Jesus and Jesus alone and allow

01:29:44.460 --> 01:29:48.380
you to be real and alive and working in
your church.

01:29:48.500 --> 01:29:49.160
We thank you Father.

01:29:49.280 --> 01:29:51.240
It's only by the Holy Spirit we can do
this.

01:29:51.500 --> 01:29:52.580
It's in Jesus' name we pray.

01:29:52.740 --> 01:29:53.060
Amen.