WEBVTT 00:43.400 --> 00:43.460 ["Hark! 00:43.480 --> 00:43.600 The Herald Angels Sing"] 01:04.820 --> 01:06.220 ["Hark! 01:07.040 --> 01:09.120 The Herald Angels Sing"] ["Hark! 01:10.560 --> 01:10.560 The Herald Angels Sing"] 01:22.960 --> 01:28.440 I cannot be accused of being a liar about my break with the Catholic Church and its 01:28.440 --> 01:29.000 priesthood. 01:29.420 --> 01:33.660 The experiences that led to my break with Rome took place openly in Phoenix. 01:34.640 --> 01:41.340 The story was in the newspapers and on the radio, and the correspondence is still in 01:41.340 --> 01:41.820 existence. 01:44.040 --> 01:50.300 In one minute, we will take you to Phoenix, Arizona, to meet the ex-Roman 01:50.300 --> 01:53.800 Catholic priest, Dr. Emmett McLaughlin. 02:01.440 --> 02:02.840 ["Hark! 02:15.980 --> 02:23.160 The Herald Angels Sing"] Ladies and gentlemen, we are speaking to you from 02:23.160 --> 02:23.960 Phoenix, Arizona. 02:24.840 --> 02:28.060 Here in this thriving, beautiful, typically Western American city lives 02:28.060 --> 02:30.620 Emmett McLaughlin, ex-Roman Catholic priest. 02:31.760 --> 02:35.580 Resigning the priesthood after nearly 15 years at St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church 02:35.580 --> 02:39.800 here in Phoenix, Mr. McLaughlin now speaks out as a private American citizen. 02:40.780 --> 02:44.780 Emmett McLaughlin has written three silent bestseller books, People's Padre, 02:45.200 --> 02:49.360 American Culture and the Catholic School, and Crime and Immorality in the Catholic 02:49.360 --> 02:49.740 Church. 02:50.420 --> 02:53.760 He has traveled the four corners of the land, lecturing to literally hundreds of 02:53.760 --> 02:54.120 thousands. 02:54.720 --> 02:58.320 His mail is measured by the ton, letters from people of all faiths and 02:58.320 --> 02:59.040 walks of life. 02:59.940 --> 03:03.540 The recorded transcriptions you are about to hear contain direct answers to the 03:03.540 --> 03:07.140 questions most often asked in these letters, and from the audiences where he 03:07.140 --> 03:07.600 has spoken. 03:08.360 --> 03:11.600 Many things you are about to hear are direct quotes from his books. 03:11.600 --> 03:13.000 This is authentic. 03:13.460 --> 03:15.120 This is completely uncensored. 03:15.980 --> 03:19.180 This is Emmett McLaughlin, truly the People's Padre. 03:21.180 --> 03:24.200 Mr. McLaughlin tells us first why he speaks. 03:24.940 --> 03:30.380 I would like to make it clear at the very outset that I do not speak out of spite, 03:30.740 --> 03:33.840 nor of hatred, nor of vindictiveness. 03:34.720 --> 03:37.320 I speak for three principal reasons. 03:37.320 --> 03:43.700 The first is to acquaint Roman Catholics themselves with the truth of the secret 03:43.700 --> 03:46.020 inner workings of their own hierarchy. 03:46.540 --> 03:52.120 The second reason is to inform non-Catholic America, from the viewpoint 03:52.120 --> 03:58.580 of one who has seen and who knows, of the nature of this growth that has 03:58.580 --> 04:05.620 spread so luxuriantly in the free and nourishing soil of our land, while at the 04:05.620 --> 04:12.020 same time it is choking freedom of thought in the lands that it controls or with whom 04:12.020 --> 04:18.340 it has concordats, such as Spain, Italy, Portugal, and many of the countries 04:18.340 --> 04:19.260 of South America. 04:20.240 --> 04:23.420 The third reason is the most important of all. 04:24.100 --> 04:27.400 I speak because I feel that I must. 04:27.400 --> 04:35.640 It is not possible for anybody in truth to accuse me of being a fake Roman Catholic 04:35.640 --> 04:36.160 priest. 04:37.060 --> 04:38.880 The record is too well established. 04:39.700 --> 04:47.240 I was ordained in Santa Barbara in 1933, and I functioned as a Catholic priest in 04:47.240 --> 04:50.940 Phoenix from 1934 to 1948. 04:51.880 --> 04:54.960 I am still living and working in this same city. 04:54.960 --> 04:59.760 While a priest, I baptized hundreds of Catholics. 05:00.380 --> 05:06.080 I heard the confessions of many thousands of Phoenix Catholics, and also I buried a 05:06.080 --> 05:06.860 great many of them. 05:07.300 --> 05:12.320 I do not intend to rantingly denounce Roman Catholicism. 05:13.140 --> 05:19.980 It is possible, and I think it should be done, that we make a distinction between 05:19.980 --> 05:26.480 the political activity of the Catholic hierarchy and the religion and faith of 05:26.480 --> 05:28.060 the Catholic people themselves. 05:28.860 --> 05:34.780 As American citizens, we have an obligation to respect the Catholic and his 05:34.780 --> 05:35.320 belief. 05:36.240 --> 05:40.940 In our hospital, we have more than a hundred Catholics working for us. 05:41.620 --> 05:47.020 There are Catholics on the executive committee of the medical staff. 05:47.020 --> 05:50.780 There are many Catholic doctors on the staff itself. 05:51.440 --> 05:55.200 And the bulk of the patients that we take care of in the course of any given year 05:55.200 --> 05:56.680 are Roman Catholics. 05:57.580 --> 06:05.840 But the suppression of the freedom of American Catholics, and the threat of that 06:05.840 --> 06:09.780 suppression to all of us as American citizens, is something else again, 06:10.460 --> 06:13.500 and that we certainly can and should freely talk about. 06:13.500 --> 06:21.340 Free Americans, such as you are, have no conception of the indoctrination, 06:22.140 --> 06:28.540 the walling in, the mental inbreeding that takes place in the training of a Catholic 06:28.540 --> 06:29.080 priest. 06:31.180 --> 06:39.340 And also, free Americans do not realize, nor do Roman Catholics, why Catholics in 06:39.340 --> 06:42.540 their school system are so thoroughly indoctrinated. 06:42.540 --> 06:47.920 It is because the priests are indoctrinated, and so are the nuns, 06:47.960 --> 06:53.720 so that they themselves cannot rise above the level of their own narrow thinking 06:53.720 --> 07:01.200 into the realm of freedom of thought and of imagination and of action that are so 07:01.200 --> 07:03.640 much a part of the American system of life. 07:04.640 --> 07:12.020 The indoctrination to which I was subjected is typical of that of most Irish 07:12.020 --> 07:19.300 Catholic American families who have been born to devout immigrant parents. 07:19.700 --> 07:21.800 My father and mother both came from Ireland. 07:22.620 --> 07:27.980 In fact, both of them from the same area of Ireland, County Sligo. 07:27.980 --> 07:31.860 My first memories are Catholic memories. 07:33.300 --> 07:39.840 I can think of my parents teaching me to say the rosary, teaching me Catholic 07:39.840 --> 07:40.400 prayers. 07:41.420 --> 07:48.340 My memories of the streets of Sacramento are those that led to St. Francis Church 07:48.340 --> 07:50.380 on 26th and K Street. 07:50.380 --> 07:57.340 When I was seven years old, I was enrolled in the parish school attached to that 07:57.340 --> 08:01.000 church across the street from the famous Sutter's Fort. 08:01.480 --> 08:06.220 I can well remember the Catholic indoctrination of the grade schools. 08:07.400 --> 08:13.600 The statues of the Virgin Mary in every classroom with the flowers in front of the 08:13.600 --> 08:18.760 statue and the ever-present, ever-burning votive lights. 08:19.580 --> 08:21.800 The crucifix on the wall. 08:22.780 --> 08:26.100 The prayers before and after every class. 08:27.260 --> 08:32.380 The weaving of the Catholic religion through the old Benziger reader and the 08:32.380 --> 08:35.760 other textbooks that we used as little children. 08:35.760 --> 08:43.740 When I finished grammar school, I was enrolled in the Christian Brothers 08:43.740 --> 08:44.440 College. 08:45.280 --> 08:48.380 It was the only Catholic high school in the city. 08:49.160 --> 08:56.500 It was while I was in the second year of high school that the pressure was exerted 08:56.500 --> 09:00.160 upon me to enter the seminary and study for the priesthood. 09:00.160 --> 09:06.360 It was in 1922 that I was enrolled in Santa Barbara Seminary. 09:07.280 --> 09:10.140 The course there lasted for 12 years. 09:11.160 --> 09:19.340 Although I didn't realize that my ultimate goal was the sacrifice of my life for the 09:19.340 --> 09:27.520 work of the Catholic Church, I was soon enveloped in the indoctrination of a 09:27.520 --> 09:31.580 seminary that was typical of all seminaries throughout the Catholic Church. 09:32.840 --> 09:40.040 Upon a boy's entrance to that or any other seminary, there begins at least 12 years 09:40.040 --> 09:45.720 of the most thorough and effective intellectual indoctrination that the world 09:45.720 --> 09:46.600 has ever known. 09:47.600 --> 09:53.940 It began gently with the blending of the legitimate pleasures of boyhood. 09:54.940 --> 10:00.560 It began also with the stimulus of competition in studies and the pageantry 10:00.560 --> 10:05.740 of the forms of an ancient religion unseen in an ordinary parish church. 10:06.740 --> 10:13.780 That indoctrination ended 12 years later with a rigidity of mental barriers, 10:14.320 --> 10:21.640 of intellectual processes, of medieval superstitions, and religious concepts as 10:21.640 --> 10:28.160 archaic as those of the Buddhist monks upon the isolated frozen mountains of 10:28.160 --> 10:28.660 Tibet. 10:28.660 --> 10:35.020 We were very subtly indoctrinated in Catholicism to the exclusion of all other 10:35.020 --> 10:35.520 thinking. 10:36.780 --> 10:40.060 Attendance at Mass was daily and compulsory. 10:40.780 --> 10:43.160 So were community morning and evening prayers. 10:44.200 --> 10:49.800 All textbooks, even in high school courses, were written by Catholic authors, 10:50.500 --> 10:52.020 usually Jesuit authors. 10:52.940 --> 10:57.640 No daily papers were permitted, nor were any non-Catholic magazines. 10:58.960 --> 11:03.340 Radios for the use of junior seminarians were forbidden. 11:04.300 --> 11:09.740 The priests, and all of the teachers were priests, were permitted a lone radio in 11:09.740 --> 11:11.780 their supervised recreation hall. 11:12.400 --> 11:19.140 And only occasionally, such as when Notre Dame played some non-Catholic school or 11:19.140 --> 11:24.000 when the Pope gave a sermon, were we ever permitted to listen to that radio. 11:24.000 --> 11:30.560 During all those years of seclusion from American life, the indoctrination in the 11:30.560 --> 11:36.540 spirit of the Catholic Church became so intense that I, like all my fellow 11:36.540 --> 11:42.800 seminarians, felt that I alone was a normal Christian, privileged to commune 11:42.800 --> 11:48.380 with God, that the American way of life was a pagan, sinful thing. 11:48.380 --> 11:54.020 I came to believe that the American government is to be tolerated, 11:54.280 --> 11:55.380 although wrong. 11:56.060 --> 12:00.160 Tolerated because it gives unlimited freedom to the Catholic Church, 12:00.540 --> 12:04.600 and wrong because it gives the same freedom to other churches. 12:05.320 --> 12:10.800 I came to believe that the ideal form of government was the one in which I was 12:10.800 --> 12:16.060 living in my seclusion of spirit, the day when the papacy made kings, 12:16.300 --> 12:21.640 and the power to govern came from God to the king through his representative, 12:22.140 --> 12:22.620 the Pope. 12:22.620 --> 12:29.360 My boyhood concept of civics, of the rights of man to the processes of law, 12:29.780 --> 12:34.940 and of government through the consent of the governed, and of separation of church 12:34.940 --> 12:40.980 and state, faded away under the constant repetition of the teachings of Thomas 12:40.980 --> 12:45.940 Aquinas, the moral theologians, and the encyclicals of the Popes. 12:46.600 --> 12:53.120 I became, in all truth, a citizen of the church, living by accident in the United 12:53.120 --> 12:53.620 States. 12:53.960 --> 12:57.540 In going through this seminary, I had to learn obedience. 12:58.260 --> 13:04.220 I had to learn to crush the lusts of the flesh by fasting, self-denial, 13:04.660 --> 13:06.160 and even physical torture. 13:06.160 --> 13:11.200 Many Americans have read stories of the ascetics and the hermits of the early 13:11.200 --> 13:16.460 Middle Ages of Christianity, and how they tortured themselves by wearing hair 13:16.460 --> 13:22.240 shirts, fastening chains about their wrists, and sleeping on boards or in bare 13:22.240 --> 13:22.900 coffins. 13:22.900 --> 13:27.940 But it might surprise them to know that in the senior seminaries for Franciscan 13:27.940 --> 13:34.620 priests in the United States, there hangs inside the door of every cell or bedroom a 13:34.620 --> 13:35.180 scourge. 13:35.500 --> 13:40.700 It is made of several strands of heavy cord, each knotted at the ends. 13:40.700 --> 13:48.000 Each Monday, Wednesday, and Friday evening at 545 o'clock, we closed the doors of our 13:48.000 --> 13:52.720 cells in the old mission at Santa Barbara, and to the chant of the misery, 13:53.260 --> 13:58.420 removed our underwear and scourged our flesh to bring it into submission. 13:59.800 --> 14:02.640 However, we were not particularly unhappy. 14:03.320 --> 14:08.540 After years of seclusion and indoctrination, we knew of no other world. 14:08.540 --> 14:12.000 We were unaware of our indoctrination of fear. 14:12.800 --> 14:13.980 We thought it was love. 14:14.640 --> 14:16.320 We were constantly told so. 14:17.060 --> 14:22.360 We had come to accept celibacy as supernatural, not as unnatural. 14:22.360 --> 14:28.380 It is my firm belief that every young man of the thirteen of us meeting before 14:28.380 --> 14:36.380 Archbishop Cantwell on Ordination Day in Santa Barbara Mission in June of 1933 was 14:36.380 --> 14:41.220 so thoroughly indoctrinated in his belief in the Roman Catholic Church, that he 14:41.220 --> 14:45.840 sincerely believed that his was the greatest privilege given to mortal men, 14:46.320 --> 14:52.440 that nothing else mattered, nor friends, nor relatives, nor country, but only the 14:52.440 --> 14:57.920 culmination of his dreams of many years to hear the Archbishop pronounce the awesome 14:57.920 --> 15:03.080 words, Thou art a priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek. 15:03.840 --> 15:09.300 To himself and to the whole Roman Catholic world, he was an alter Christus, 15:09.920 --> 15:10.780 another Christ. 15:11.400 --> 15:18.120 After my ordination, my first and in fact my only clerical assignment was at St. 15:18.180 --> 15:19.900 Mary's Church in Phoenix, Arizona. 15:19.900 --> 15:27.380 In those days, before refrigeration or any form of air conditioning, an assignment to 15:27.380 --> 15:31.140 any part of Arizona was considered somewhat in the nature of a sentence. 15:31.900 --> 15:37.480 The Provincial Superior at the time told me very bluntly that I was being sentenced 15:37.480 --> 15:42.880 to Phoenix and its heat and hard living conditions because I had been, 15:42.940 --> 15:48.280 as he said, too outspoken and too questioning in my years in the seminary. 15:49.020 --> 15:55.060 I was prepared to some extent for the heat and the dust storms, but I had no concept 15:55.060 --> 15:59.540 whatever of the social conditions existing in the poorer parts of the city. 15:59.920 --> 16:06.020 Nor did I realize the miserable hovels that the discriminated people were forced 16:06.020 --> 16:06.760 to live in. 16:07.400 --> 16:12.680 Gradually, as the years went by, it began to occur to me that something was 16:12.680 --> 16:13.100 wrong. 16:13.100 --> 16:16.760 I had been a Roman Catholic priest for seven years. 16:17.360 --> 16:19.460 I had said Mass every day. 16:19.860 --> 16:22.000 I had heard confessions every Saturday. 16:22.620 --> 16:24.740 I had preached a sermon every Sunday. 16:25.640 --> 16:30.260 People, Catholic and non-Catholic, were kind enough to tell me that I had 16:30.260 --> 16:35.680 become firmly rooted in the religious, economic, and welfare life of Phoenix. 16:36.440 --> 16:42.220 I had sincerely and without restraint given my life for 20 years to the Church. 16:43.740 --> 16:48.820 My dissatisfaction at that time, some seven years after my ordination, 16:49.360 --> 16:52.080 was not due to any doctrinal doubts. 16:52.760 --> 16:57.740 I did not disbelieve the doctrine of the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, 16:58.240 --> 17:02.660 the seven sacraments, baptism, the Mass, or even confession. 17:02.660 --> 17:09.500 I did not yet disbelieve the infallibility of the Pope, the historical succession of 17:09.500 --> 17:13.080 the bishops, or even my own power to forgive sins. 17:13.600 --> 17:20.600 My first disillusionment arose from the inconsistency between word and action of 17:20.600 --> 17:25.880 the Roman Church and the Franciscan Order, from their failure to put their ideals 17:25.880 --> 17:26.940 into practice. 17:26.940 --> 17:34.400 I had misgivings about abstract doctrinal matters, but no well-defined doubts. 17:35.140 --> 17:41.940 Still naive, I obeyed the papal law of reading no book that questioned a Roman 17:41.940 --> 17:42.900 Catholic doctrine. 17:43.560 --> 17:49.500 I was living every day with the Church's moral code, trying to apply it to my own 17:49.500 --> 17:50.940 life and that of my people. 17:51.740 --> 17:56.300 I had left the seminary believing that charity was a characteristic of the 17:56.300 --> 18:01.400 Church, that it meant a kind word as well as a crust of bread, and that it applied 18:01.400 --> 18:02.500 to all men. 18:03.160 --> 18:07.960 I thought that poverty meant detachment from the chains of material things, 18:08.360 --> 18:12.920 and that money was intended as a means of survival and not as an end in itself. 18:12.920 --> 18:19.080 I had been taught that the Church was the mother of education, and had held high 18:19.080 --> 18:23.540 through the centuries the light of Christian education, and that the 18:23.540 --> 18:27.040 countries she influenced were the enlightened ones of the world. 18:27.820 --> 18:33.100 I had been taught that rosaries, medals, relics, and the ceremonies of 18:33.100 --> 18:38.600 religion were inducements to prayer and devotion, and not superstitious idols 18:38.600 --> 18:39.240 themselves. 18:40.120 --> 18:46.680 I had believed that the Church's teachings on divorce, mental sin, birth control, 18:47.200 --> 18:52.200 and celibacy would produce moral lives and spiritual freedom. 18:52.920 --> 18:58.200 Should I continue to give my life to a system that could involve the exploitation 18:58.200 --> 19:02.660 of my years of service for the political aggrandizement of the hierarchy? 19:03.700 --> 19:09.660 Most priests, torn between the intellectual realization that they have 19:09.660 --> 19:16.160 been misled and the fear of family reaction, hesitate and live on through 19:16.160 --> 19:17.880 barren years in the priesthood. 19:18.520 --> 19:23.660 My parents were dead, but I had sisters and a brother who was also a priest, 19:24.160 --> 19:28.960 and aunts and uncles, and a swarm of cousins, all Irish and all Catholic. 19:28.960 --> 19:34.720 From them and their friends, I could expect nothing but repudiation if I took 19:34.720 --> 19:35.980 my hand from the plow. 19:37.240 --> 19:43.240 Every priest is taught through the years that anyone who leaves the priesthood will 19:43.240 --> 19:47.060 not only be cursed by God, but rejected by the public. 19:48.140 --> 19:53.740 The standard that Jesus set for salvation was not the wearing of a Roman collar, 19:54.340 --> 19:57.180 the recitation of the rosary, or of the divine office. 19:57.180 --> 20:02.620 It was not the building of a church, or a shrine, or the practice of poverty, 20:03.220 --> 20:07.000 or the non-practice of birth control, or the practice of celibacy. 20:07.860 --> 20:11.780 It was not the wearing of a robe, or sprinkling with holy water, 20:12.300 --> 20:17.460 or anointing with oils, or fasting in Lent, or abstaining on Friday, 20:17.980 --> 20:21.680 or eating in common, or kissing a knot on the end of a cord. 20:21.680 --> 20:24.800 Jesus gave men one standard. 20:25.640 --> 20:29.820 Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the one of the least of these my brethren, 20:30.360 --> 20:31.880 ye have done it unto me. 20:33.180 --> 20:36.240 This exciting program continues in part two. 20:43.980 --> 20:50.660 I had long been facing the deplorable slum conditions of the area, but I had no idea 20:50.660 --> 20:55.540 of what to do about them until I heard of the United States Housing Authority. 20:55.540 --> 21:02.400 We were finally able to promote the State Enabling Housing Act of 1939 for the 21:02.400 --> 21:05.060 establishment of a housing authority in the state of Arizona. 21:05.500 --> 21:09.740 The housing authority of the city of Phoenix was appointed, and I was named 21:09.740 --> 21:10.160 chairman. 21:10.820 --> 21:14.700 We started in to buy the property upon which to build low-cost housing. 21:15.480 --> 21:19.840 Again, I ran into the opposition of the Roman Catholic Church because of the 21:19.840 --> 21:22.120 numbers of Catholics that owned these properties. 21:22.120 --> 21:26.680 They reported me to the bishop, they reported me to the Franciscan 21:26.680 --> 21:30.200 authorities as being a socialist and a communist. 21:30.860 --> 21:36.560 At one time, at a meeting held in the city hall, they even tried to kill me and the 21:36.560 --> 21:38.260 other members of the housing authority. 21:39.180 --> 21:42.600 The housing program was, of course, successful. 21:43.300 --> 21:49.780 We built the lowest-cost units in the United States at some $1,800 a family 21:49.780 --> 21:50.260 unit. 21:50.260 --> 21:56.420 These buildings are now more than 20 years old and are still in as good a condition 21:56.420 --> 21:58.480 as they were when they were first constructed. 21:59.720 --> 22:05.480 Gradually, in my mind, there had developed the concept of building a hospital on the 22:05.480 --> 22:06.460 south side of the city. 22:07.280 --> 22:14.180 By coincidence, the pressure of war activities had tremendously increased both 22:14.180 --> 22:19.660 the military and the civilian population of the city of Phoenix and its surrounding 22:19.660 --> 22:20.280 areas. 22:20.920 --> 22:22.760 The airfields were developing. 22:23.580 --> 22:28.660 The pressure on the other hospitals was becoming greater to the point where there 22:28.660 --> 22:31.120 were not enough beds in the area. 22:31.120 --> 22:37.560 This shortage interested the federal government in the financing of our dream. 22:38.440 --> 22:44.140 In spite of the apprehension of the Church and the rapidly changing requirements of 22:44.140 --> 22:49.000 federal agencies such as the War Production Board as the nation became more 22:49.000 --> 22:54.180 deeply involved in war, in spite of the universal shortage of materials, 22:54.960 --> 22:58.860 the construction began in mid-1943. 22:58.860 --> 23:04.600 The hospital itself opened on February the 14th, 1944. 23:05.700 --> 23:10.280 During this period of construction and while the housing program was developing, 23:10.520 --> 23:14.300 the officials of the Catholic Church became more and more critical of my 23:14.300 --> 23:14.760 activities. 23:15.660 --> 23:17.660 They considered them as non-religious. 23:18.500 --> 23:23.880 Rumors had circulated in the community that the hospital would never open and 23:23.880 --> 23:27.000 that if it opened, it would not continue for any length of time. 23:27.000 --> 23:32.700 However, St. Monica's Hospital, later changed to Memorial Hospital, 23:33.160 --> 23:34.280 was a success. 23:35.800 --> 23:40.300 Finally, the opposition of the hierarchy, and especially the officials of the 23:40.300 --> 23:47.160 Franciscan Order, reached the point where in 1947, the Provincial Superior and the 23:47.160 --> 23:51.760 Definitorium, which is the council of the province of the Franciscan Order, 23:52.800 --> 23:59.640 said this, In our judgment, and by our permission, you may no longer serve in the 23:59.640 --> 24:06.360 capacity of superintendent of St. Monica's Hospital, as we are convinced that it has 24:06.360 --> 24:12.360 led to the spiritual neglect of your parishioners and to laxities in your 24:12.360 --> 24:15.080 manner as a Franciscan and as a priest. 24:16.040 --> 24:20.560 This letter was signed by all the officials of the Franciscan Order in the 24:20.560 --> 24:21.440 western province. 24:21.440 --> 24:26.020 It was merely the beginning of correspondence that went on for over a 24:26.020 --> 24:26.320 year. 24:27.280 --> 24:32.620 It included letters from my own brother, who was a priest, in his attempt to 24:32.620 --> 24:37.920 dissuade me to leave the hospital field and to go back into what he called the 24:37.920 --> 24:39.560 spiritual work of the ministry. 24:40.580 --> 24:45.960 As time developed, when I was becoming more and more convinced that I would break 24:45.960 --> 24:50.180 with the Franciscan Order and the priesthood, I was summoned to a special 24:50.180 --> 24:54.520 meeting of the Provincial Council called at Malibu in California. 24:55.440 --> 25:01.500 I was being punished by being called before them in this estate, which had 25:01.500 --> 25:04.340 originally belonged to some very wealthy person. 25:05.020 --> 25:11.100 The Franciscan Order, which was forbidden by rule to own anything, and in theory 25:11.100 --> 25:16.740 restricted to the use of poor, simple, modest buildings, had purchased 25:16.740 --> 25:22.660 this structure, one of the most luxurious mansions on the west coast, above the 25:22.660 --> 25:27.780 Palisades, north of Santa Monica, high on a hill overlooking a strip of 25:27.780 --> 25:32.620 shoreline that is famous to all that have ever heard of Hollywood, the fabulous 25:32.620 --> 25:33.860 Malibu Beach. 25:34.600 --> 25:37.980 The structure itself was as ornate as the Waldorf Astoria. 25:38.840 --> 25:44.120 Its rambling rooms stepped from one level to another in a profusion of beauty and of 25:44.120 --> 25:44.540 luxury. 25:45.580 --> 25:50.520 In the library, the six elders of the Provincial Council of the Franciscan Order 25:50.520 --> 25:51.500 were in session. 25:52.580 --> 25:55.840 I was summoned before them for a very brief interview. 25:56.720 --> 26:00.280 I was told that I had been failing in the spiritual life. 26:00.280 --> 26:02.980 I was not attending the morning meditation. 26:03.920 --> 26:07.660 They charged that I was not joining the brothers in the recitation of the divine 26:07.660 --> 26:11.900 office, and that I was late for the common meals, if I attended at all. 26:12.920 --> 26:17.640 They said that I had also become very worldly, that I was careless in the 26:17.640 --> 26:21.880 wearing of the Roman collar, and neglectful of the spiritual duties towards 26:21.880 --> 26:22.780 my parishioners. 26:23.540 --> 26:29.380 In other words, they claimed that I had become decadent spiritually, and that my 26:29.380 --> 26:33.840 parish was showing the evidence of this, and also that the hospital was. 26:34.860 --> 26:40.700 After leaving this meeting, a Franciscan priest, who has since quit the priesthood 26:40.700 --> 26:46.640 himself, one of my classmates, drove me back to the Los Angeles Municipal 26:46.640 --> 26:46.940 Airport. 26:47.600 --> 26:50.680 I slipped off to a restaurant to think. 26:51.580 --> 26:55.500 I took off my Roman collar, and put it in my briefcase. 26:56.520 --> 27:01.820 Then I mentally, as I sat there, recreated the scene, and tried to 27:01.820 --> 27:02.720 understand it. 27:03.360 --> 27:09.560 Six priests, sons of the poor St. Francis, with the hems of their brown robes 27:09.560 --> 27:14.920 blending like draperies in a king's palace, into the intricate pattern of 27:14.920 --> 27:20.760 exquisite tile on the floor, with the huge fireplace and the exposed oaken beams of 27:20.760 --> 27:25.520 the roof, the whole picture that could have been a scene from a castle in the 27:25.520 --> 27:26.500 days of King Arthur. 27:27.600 --> 27:28.940 Was I a bad priest? 27:29.440 --> 27:31.660 I didn't always wear the Roman collar. 27:32.240 --> 27:34.180 I didn't eat meals on time. 27:34.900 --> 27:36.760 I did miss morning meditation. 27:38.240 --> 27:42.200 My hospital was giving medical care to 20,000 people a year. 27:43.000 --> 27:48.180 All that, said the Father Provincial, standing in this scene of regal luxury, 27:48.860 --> 27:51.620 was too worldly a work for a Catholic priest. 27:52.640 --> 27:54.160 Was my work too worldly? 27:55.260 --> 27:58.360 My mind slipped back to St. Monica's Hospital. 27:59.100 --> 28:02.620 I saw the graduating class of my student nurses. 28:03.580 --> 28:08.980 In their new smart, starched uniforms, they stood before me, with the highest 28:08.980 --> 28:13.900 average nursing grades in Arizona, grades above the national average. 28:14.860 --> 28:20.000 At the graduation ceremony, the director of nurses fastened a pin on each girl's 28:20.000 --> 28:20.460 uniform. 28:21.140 --> 28:26.160 The symbol of our school, between the upraised wings of the Phoenix bird, 28:26.480 --> 28:30.820 on a field of gold, was the Latin word, Serexi. 28:31.600 --> 28:32.680 I have risen. 28:33.460 --> 28:38.260 I, who proudly wear the emblem of St. Monica's School of Nursing, have risen. 28:38.980 --> 28:44.060 From whatever status in life I might have held, from the immaturity of girlhood, 28:44.660 --> 28:50.100 I have risen to the full stature of the noblest profession given to womanhood, 28:50.600 --> 28:51.740 that of nursing. 28:52.540 --> 28:58.300 God alone could tell where the ripples would reach from this stone thrown into 28:58.300 --> 28:59.480 the pool of humanity. 29:00.100 --> 29:03.620 But the Provincial Council said I was a bad priest. 29:04.220 --> 29:08.280 That good, docile priests of Holy Mother Church were not so material. 29:09.020 --> 29:10.060 They were spiritual. 29:10.660 --> 29:12.480 They always wore the Roman collar. 29:13.260 --> 29:14.820 They ate meals on time. 29:15.380 --> 29:17.740 They were regular at morning meditation. 29:18.620 --> 29:20.160 But what was I going to do? 29:20.800 --> 29:22.580 Submit to the Provincial Council? 29:23.120 --> 29:25.620 Or break away from the Roman Catholic Church? 29:26.450 --> 29:31.200 I felt that a time would come when I would be man enough to face the test. 29:31.800 --> 29:36.760 I prayed to God to give me the moral strength to leave the priesthood if the 29:36.760 --> 29:39.520 hierarchy should finally order me to leave Phoenix. 29:40.420 --> 29:46.680 In a quiet restaurant, waiting for a plane, without benefit of formal prayers, 29:47.100 --> 29:54.020 statues, or rituals, I had experienced the most profound spiritual meditation of my 29:54.020 --> 29:54.440 life. 29:54.440 --> 30:01.180 His bold defiance of the Catholic Church and its hierarchy demonstrated Emmett 30:01.180 --> 30:02.800 McLaughlin's great courage. 30:03.680 --> 30:09.200 Facing insurmountable odds, standing alone, he dared take his hand from the 30:09.200 --> 30:09.560 plow. 30:10.100 --> 30:11.800 He did look back. 30:12.800 --> 30:18.560 The final ultimatum came from the provincial authorities in September of 30:18.560 --> 30:26.700 1948 and stated that I had been removed as pastor and administrator of St. Monica's 30:26.700 --> 30:31.340 Parish, which was commonly known as Father Emmett's Mission, the original church that 30:31.340 --> 30:37.240 I had founded, and continued in these words, which you are to arrange the 30:37.240 --> 30:42.200 matters of your connection with St. Monica's Hospital, so that by January 1, 30:42.340 --> 30:47.680 1949, if not before, you will no longer be superintendent of the hospital, 30:48.180 --> 30:52.360 and that you will be in a position to resign from its board, should the very 30:52.360 --> 30:57.800 Reverend Provincial and the Definitorium decide at that time to assign you to a new 30:57.800 --> 30:59.320 post in the province. 31:00.200 --> 31:08.080 The instructions went on with regulations, which I refused to accept as an American 31:08.080 --> 31:09.860 citizen, in these words. 31:11.000 --> 31:15.320 You are to grant no interviews to the press, nor to make statements for 31:15.320 --> 31:19.940 publication without the previous individual and express permission of your 31:19.940 --> 31:25.240 local superior, and with due regards to the regulation of canon law regarding the 31:25.240 --> 31:28.640 rights of the ordinary, or the bishop, in this matter. 31:29.260 --> 31:35.120 For two months, in the quiet of my own mind, I prayed and pondered and reached my 31:35.120 --> 31:35.580 decision. 31:36.380 --> 31:37.840 I would not obey. 31:38.580 --> 31:40.100 I would leave the priesthood. 31:40.780 --> 31:47.860 At 9 o'clock in the evening on November 30, 1948, I stood at the door of St. 31:47.940 --> 31:49.460 Mary's Rectory in Phoenix. 31:50.220 --> 31:55.820 I felt like a coward, but I forced myself to enter the monastery where I had lived 31:55.820 --> 31:57.020 for 14 years. 31:57.020 --> 32:02.260 I called the priests together, the men I had studied with, lived with, 32:02.580 --> 32:03.240 prayed with. 32:03.740 --> 32:07.600 I told them I was leaving the priesthood and the Roman Catholic Church. 32:08.100 --> 32:14.060 When I offered my hand in parting friendship, some wept, some blessed me, 32:14.620 --> 32:16.040 and others cursed me. 32:17.000 --> 32:18.200 The die was cast. 32:18.940 --> 32:23.500 That night, I was frightened, mentally naked, and alone. 32:23.500 --> 32:30.000 I had stripped my mind of the robe that throughout my youth had protected me from 32:30.000 --> 32:31.740 the cold questions of life. 32:32.340 --> 32:36.180 I knew that I could not and would never go back. 32:37.300 --> 32:40.860 That decision was made more than 13 years ago. 32:41.620 --> 32:46.460 With the passing of those years, that decision has become even more firm. 32:47.600 --> 32:51.820 Twice since I left the priesthood, I have heard the rustle of the wings of 32:51.820 --> 32:52.860 the angel of death. 32:52.860 --> 32:58.600 On both occasions, doctors told me that I probably would not live through the night. 32:59.240 --> 33:04.800 Both times, I told my wife to make sure that no priests came near me. 33:06.700 --> 33:14.080 Throughout the years prior to my actual break with the Catholic hierarchy, 33:15.120 --> 33:22.460 a great deal of the difficulty I had was with the St. Joseph's Hospital and the 33:22.460 --> 33:24.180 nuns that operated it. 33:24.660 --> 33:29.400 People know very little about nuns and hear a great many stories about them. 33:31.380 --> 33:38.220 Actually, the nun is one of the most remarkable products of the Roman Catholic 33:38.220 --> 33:38.700 Church. 33:39.000 --> 33:44.480 She is one whose willingness to offer her life would fill any communist leader with 33:44.480 --> 33:44.940 jealousy. 33:45.660 --> 33:50.840 One from whom the hierarchy conceals her slavery by the wedding band on her finger. 33:50.840 --> 33:56.560 One who believes that shining the bishop's shoes or waiting on his table or scrubbing 33:56.560 --> 34:01.460 the floor is providing her with treasures in heaven. 34:02.600 --> 34:05.280 She is the workhorse of the Catholic Church. 34:05.500 --> 34:09.200 The one who makes possible the Church's hundreds of hospitals. 34:09.940 --> 34:13.840 The one who teaches in the thousands of parochial schools and orphanages, 34:14.160 --> 34:17.000 not only in the United States but around the world. 34:17.000 --> 34:22.840 She is the one who does the drudgery behind the scenes in the drive of the 34:22.840 --> 34:26.200 bishops to make America Catholic. 34:26.840 --> 34:32.100 But the average nun is also a woman with all the desires, the instincts, 34:32.400 --> 34:36.020 the loyalties, and the hatreds of which a woman is capable. 34:36.940 --> 34:44.140 She is subservient to her man through her indoctrination of her supposed wedding to 34:44.140 --> 34:44.540 Christ. 34:44.540 --> 34:50.300 She is catty and gossipy towards her sister nuns and the hospital student 34:50.300 --> 34:50.660 nurses. 34:51.520 --> 34:57.280 She is maternal in her hovering over priests and children and matriarchal in 34:57.280 --> 35:00.420 her petty politics for the control of her hospital or convent. 35:01.300 --> 35:06.540 She is magnificent in her spirit of abasement, of poverty, and 35:06.540 --> 35:11.900 self-annihilation on behalf of God and of the Roman Catholic Church. 35:11.900 --> 35:16.220 There are many stories about nuns and priests. 35:17.280 --> 35:24.780 Nuns certainly love priests, but usually with the love of a mother and not the love 35:24.780 --> 35:25.760 of a paramour. 35:26.720 --> 35:30.240 The affection frequently embarrasses priests. 35:31.100 --> 35:37.220 When nuns die in their clergy, they hover like moths, obsequious in their 35:37.220 --> 35:41.700 servitude, while the priest would much prefer that they would either sit down and 35:41.700 --> 35:43.380 eat with them or leave. 35:43.900 --> 35:48.120 Mr. McLaughlin sheds some light on the primary education of the Catholic school 35:48.120 --> 35:48.620 system. 35:49.380 --> 35:56.180 The first thing taught to a Catholic child is that the Catholic Church is the most 35:56.180 --> 35:57.960 important thing that exists. 35:57.960 --> 36:04.220 He is taught that the American government doesn't particularly matter, that he is in 36:04.220 --> 36:10.460 existence to know God, to love God, and to serve God, and thereby to gain 36:10.460 --> 36:10.820 heaven. 36:11.540 --> 36:14.080 These are the words of the Baltimore Catechism. 36:14.760 --> 36:21.040 The insidious hoodwinking of little children is that they are taught that to 36:21.040 --> 36:23.640 serve God, they must serve the Church. 36:24.460 --> 36:28.320 The child is taught that the Catholic religion alone is true. 36:29.260 --> 36:32.360 He is forbidden to read anything that says it is not true. 36:33.300 --> 36:38.920 The index of forbidden books rules his mind from the time that he is able to 36:38.920 --> 36:39.300 read. 36:40.440 --> 36:46.000 Catholic children are permitted to read the common nursery rhymes that we might 36:46.000 --> 36:50.220 say are non-denominational, such as Aesop's Fables and things of that nature. 36:50.220 --> 36:54.760 But woven all through these books are Catholic nursery rhymes. 36:55.500 --> 37:00.860 We were allowed to read those things, but through our textbooks were the stories 37:00.860 --> 37:05.440 of the lives of the saints and the Catholic teachings regarding the 37:05.440 --> 37:07.440 infallibility of the Church. 37:08.520 --> 37:14.540 As the child grows older, the warped indoctrination of the Church's school 37:14.540 --> 37:16.140 system gets worse. 37:17.060 --> 37:22.840 History is completely distorted to cover the past and to present the Church in the 37:22.840 --> 37:24.140 most favorable light. 37:24.860 --> 37:29.500 Even the covers of the textbooks are used to extol Catholicism. 37:30.560 --> 37:35.620 Priests are shown welcoming the original Indians on one book or blessing the 37:35.620 --> 37:37.220 covered wagons on another. 37:38.400 --> 37:43.660 In Catholic high school textbooks, children are taught that the American 37:43.660 --> 37:46.660 government was founded on Catholic principles. 37:47.420 --> 37:52.200 That Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Alexander Hamilton, and George Washington 37:52.200 --> 37:56.900 received their inspiration from the writings of Robert Bellarmine, 37:57.420 --> 38:00.700 a Jesuit priest who lived a hundred years before. 38:00.700 --> 38:07.480 This ridiculous and untrue concept was taught to us in Catholic high schools in 38:07.480 --> 38:07.860 Sacramento. 38:08.680 --> 38:12.700 It is taught now in Catholic textbooks across the nation. 38:13.460 --> 38:18.120 This distortion of history is, of course, one of the principal reasons 38:18.120 --> 38:22.660 for the Catholic Church's system of censorship of books and other means of 38:22.660 --> 38:23.020 communication. 38:23.920 --> 38:28.500 In this battle, we should remember that it is American Protestants who stand for the 38:28.500 --> 38:29.440 American tradition. 38:29.440 --> 38:34.520 Protestants believe in self-government inside and outside their churches. 38:35.220 --> 38:40.340 And they have voted to accept the American public school as an instrument for 38:40.340 --> 38:43.400 educating the people's children regardless of creed. 38:44.220 --> 38:49.760 The separation of church and state and the American pattern of religious freedom are 38:49.760 --> 38:52.460 proud achievements of American Protestantism. 38:53.220 --> 38:58.920 In this critical hour, we need desperately to defend our priceless heritage with 38:58.920 --> 39:01.720 every ounce of devotion and energy we possess. 39:02.560 --> 39:09.400 This basic factor in the American way of life is now being challenged by a hybrid 39:09.400 --> 39:16.240 church-state whose policies are created in the Vatican, dictated by a foreign despot 39:16.240 --> 39:21.480 and committed throughout the world to a policy of demanding public revenue to 39:21.480 --> 39:22.780 support its institutions. 39:24.080 --> 39:26.800 Our mission is to keep America free. 39:27.680 --> 39:34.020 Catholicism can win America and reduce it to the status of Spain or Ireland or 39:34.020 --> 39:40.540 Colombia only if we forget or neglect to preserve our Protestant heritage of 39:40.540 --> 39:40.860 freedom. 39:42.160 --> 39:47.460 For more exciting documentation of this subject by Mr. McLaughlin, listen to part 39:47.460 --> 39:47.820 three. 39:56.430 --> 40:00.230 I am the product of the Roman Catholic school system. 40:00.730 --> 40:07.530 In the years since I left the Roman Church and its priesthood, I have constantly been 40:07.530 --> 40:13.070 attempting to evaluate the education that I received, both in and out of the 40:13.070 --> 40:15.070 classroom from the Roman Catholic Church. 40:15.070 --> 40:21.810 I have considered this matter so important that I studied it for several years and 40:21.810 --> 40:27.170 finally have written a book on the subject, which is entitled American 40:27.170 --> 40:29.290 Culture and Catholic Schools. 40:30.150 --> 40:34.310 I believe that anyone reading it will find it well documented. 40:35.430 --> 40:40.430 I have been curious as to whether my own training was typical of Catholic education 40:40.430 --> 40:41.290 throughout the country. 40:41.290 --> 40:48.210 I wanted to know how it compared with the public educational system, which I had not 40:48.210 --> 40:50.190 been permitted even to sample. 40:51.390 --> 40:55.250 As a youngster, I had no doubts about the Catholic Church. 40:55.930 --> 40:56.770 How could I? 40:57.450 --> 41:02.970 Its voice was the voice of God, reaching back across the centuries and 41:02.970 --> 41:03.750 into eternity. 41:03.750 --> 41:11.110 In other words, my education was designed to help the Church become richer and its 41:11.110 --> 41:13.110 bishops to become more powerful. 41:14.210 --> 41:20.650 The principal quality of the Catholic educational system is loyalty to the 41:20.650 --> 41:21.010 Church. 41:22.030 --> 41:27.690 The Church was a vague, distant thing, so I was taught that loyalty must be to 41:27.690 --> 41:30.270 the nuns and priests that I could see. 41:31.190 --> 41:33.710 Later on, this must become obedience. 41:34.590 --> 41:36.390 Still later, blind obedience. 41:37.250 --> 41:43.070 In the years at the seminary, the example was given that we should be as obedient as 41:43.070 --> 41:47.010 a dead body, which always stayed where it was placed. 41:48.690 --> 41:53.830 Throughout my Catholic education, I was well grounded in subjects that could 41:53.830 --> 41:56.570 be learned by rote or by practice. 41:56.570 --> 42:01.390 I achieved excellence, for example, in the Palmer method of penmanship. 42:02.450 --> 42:04.490 I did well in spelling bees. 42:05.570 --> 42:07.230 Arithmetic was very easy. 42:08.070 --> 42:12.710 The nuns drilled me in geography until I knew the capital of every obscure land on 42:12.710 --> 42:12.990 earth. 42:13.810 --> 42:18.530 The history of America was hazy, but I was taught that it was based on 42:18.530 --> 42:19.490 Catholic teachings. 42:20.190 --> 42:24.490 But I did not learn throughout those years to think. 42:25.650 --> 42:31.130 As the years of childhood slipped through a frustrated adolescence in the seminary 42:31.130 --> 42:37.170 into the days that were supposed to be those of manhood, my mind was moulded in 42:37.170 --> 42:42.390 an intellectual pattern as effectively as though it had been cast in concrete. 42:43.330 --> 42:50.630 The term brainwashed is applied to Chinese communism, but the practice itself is as 42:50.630 --> 42:52.410 old as the Catholic school system. 42:53.730 --> 42:55.850 In short, I was not educated. 42:56.410 --> 42:58.470 I was merely indoctrinated. 42:59.230 --> 43:04.750 I had achieved the level of the rigor mortis of intellectual mediocrity. 43:04.750 --> 43:12.410 I had become an automaton, a priest of sacred half-known rites, as meaningless in 43:12.410 --> 43:18.290 their efficacy as the chants of a Puerto Rican voodoo priest or the blessings of 43:18.290 --> 43:19.610 Tibet's sacred lama. 43:19.610 --> 43:27.190 I was an ecclesiastical technician, trained to mould other young pliable minds 43:27.190 --> 43:33.730 and change their mental bloodstream as effectively as a hospital's doctors and 43:33.730 --> 43:37.850 technicians change the blood of the body of a newborn baby. 43:38.490 --> 43:44.870 I was trained to teach growing youngsters that voting and saluting were the essence 43:44.870 --> 43:51.130 of Americanism, while I was also teaching them the principles that would destroy 43:51.130 --> 43:51.790 democracy. 43:52.430 --> 43:58.210 I was teaching them in the days of St. Monica's church that it was honorable and 43:58.210 --> 44:04.970 sacred to fight and die that democracy might live, while their and my hierarchy 44:04.970 --> 44:09.590 was planning that democracy, as we knew it, must die. 44:10.290 --> 44:17.030 I was a dedicated soldier of the church militant, an indoctrinated shock trooper. 44:17.830 --> 44:26.350 My evaluation of Roman Catholic education and my opinion that that education is very 44:26.350 --> 44:33.090 definitely inferior to the educational system of the public schools was confirmed 44:33.090 --> 44:38.490 by school surveys which I quote in my book, American Culture and Catholic 44:38.490 --> 44:38.990 Schools. 44:39.910 --> 44:47.850 In one of these surveys, which was made by Dr. John Kane, a professor of sociology of 44:47.850 --> 44:53.090 Notre Dame University, only two Catholic colleges appeared at all. 44:53.710 --> 44:57.150 In another survey, 200 universities were scored. 44:57.150 --> 45:05.850 St. Louis University was the first among Catholic colleges, but it was 139th in the 45:05.850 --> 45:08.090 overall group of 200 schools. 45:09.290 --> 45:13.370 Notre Dame ranked 155th among all colleges. 45:14.110 --> 45:22.530 Georgetown was 161st, Holy Cross 171st, and Xavier University 200th. 45:23.230 --> 45:28.110 There are 216 Catholic universities and colleges in America. 45:29.050 --> 45:34.670 To paraphrase the New Testament story of the healed lepers, where were the other 45:34.670 --> 45:37.050 211 Catholic schools? 45:37.790 --> 45:43.750 Not even mentioned scholastically were Fordham, Villanova, Santa Clara, 45:44.350 --> 45:51.230 Loyola, Duquesne, Georgetown, Boston College, Creighton, and other Jesuit 45:51.230 --> 45:56.270 universities, or that giant of the hierarchy in this country, the Catholic 45:56.270 --> 45:57.490 University of America. 45:58.850 --> 46:04.870 Dr. Kane, in this Notre Dame study, concluded on a note of almost hopeless 46:04.870 --> 46:07.290 pessimism, and this is what he said. 46:07.290 --> 46:15.590 There must be some kind of lower middle or lower class orientation among Catholics to 46:15.590 --> 46:22.890 education and occupation, which tends to anchor them in the lower socioeconomic 46:22.890 --> 46:28.210 groups, and which limits those who do achieve higher education to certain 46:28.210 --> 46:33.910 fields, which appear to offer more security, although less prestige and 46:33.910 --> 46:34.390 income. 46:34.390 --> 46:40.210 It seems, he continued, that Catholics creep forward rather than stride forward 46:40.210 --> 46:46.830 in American society, and the position of American Catholics in the mid-20th century 46:46.830 --> 46:51.390 is a little better, but not so much better than it was a century ago. 46:52.090 --> 46:58.010 Neither is it as high as one might expect from such a sizable minority with a large 46:58.010 --> 47:04.050 educational system and a reputed equality of opportunity in a democracy. 47:05.550 --> 47:12.230 This evaluation of the Catholic educational system was repeated again in 47:12.230 --> 47:15.410 Time magazine on February the 9th, 1962. 47:16.470 --> 47:22.070 Jesuit theologian Gustav Weigel of Woodstock College in Maryland admitted, 47:23.170 --> 47:28.030 the general Catholic community in America does not know what scholarship is. 47:28.030 --> 47:34.050 And the predecessor of Hesburgh, the present President of Notre Dame, 47:34.870 --> 47:39.710 who was the Reverend John Cavanaugh, made the statement, rather sorrowfully, 47:40.190 --> 47:45.530 Where are the Catholic Salks, Oppenheimers, and Einsteins? 47:46.210 --> 47:53.810 There is no Catholic equivalent of Amherst, Oberlin, Reed, or Swarthmore, 47:54.270 --> 47:56.990 let alone Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. 47:56.990 --> 48:03.390 Notre Dame itself is not yet among the top schools in America. 48:03.790 --> 48:07.450 Startling historical facts are now divulged by Mr. McLaughlin. 48:08.050 --> 48:12.850 When I first became interested in the story of Abraham Lincoln and the church's 48:12.850 --> 48:16.970 possible part in his assassination, I was astounded. 48:16.970 --> 48:22.790 One of the officials of the Masonic New Age magazine in Washington wrote to me 48:22.790 --> 48:27.530 that the remarkable thing was not that the Catholic Church might be involved in 48:27.530 --> 48:28.250 Lincoln's assassination. 48:29.210 --> 48:35.030 Murder by the hierarchy had been so true throughout history in the assassination of 48:35.030 --> 48:39.910 very many great individuals that this was taken almost for granted by these Masonic 48:39.910 --> 48:40.310 officials. 48:41.590 --> 48:48.370 The remarkable aspect to them was the fact that the Jesuits had been able to keep the 48:48.370 --> 48:53.590 complete story of Roman Catholic participation in the Lincoln assassination 48:53.590 --> 48:55.910 blotted out of the history text. 48:56.830 --> 48:59.890 I am now writing a book about the Lincoln assassination. 49:01.370 --> 49:06.170 The discrepancy in history as it is taught in the public schools, and the Roman 49:06.170 --> 49:11.470 Catholic version of it, was the occasion for a plan here in Phoenix to invade the 49:11.470 --> 49:14.690 Phoenix Union High School board while I was still a priest. 49:15.510 --> 49:19.910 The reason was that the graduates of St. Mary's High School, in attending the 49:19.910 --> 49:25.130 Phoenix College, were learning in their history classes for the first time the 49:25.130 --> 49:26.550 truth of the Inquisition. 49:27.190 --> 49:30.750 The fact that the Inquisition was a department of the Roman Catholic Church 49:30.750 --> 49:34.030 and not merely an agency of the government of Spain. 49:34.810 --> 49:38.630 They were reading for the first time of the massacre of St. Bartholomew's Eve, 49:39.130 --> 49:44.750 of the false decretals, or doctrines upon which the realm of the papacy is based, 49:45.390 --> 49:49.830 of the existence of so-called heretics, or non-Catholic church groups, 49:50.150 --> 49:55.470 all through the early centuries of the Roman Church, a thousand or more years 49:55.470 --> 49:59.770 prior to the time of Martin Luther, or Calvin, or Swingly, and the other 49:59.770 --> 50:03.110 so-called heretics at the beginning of the Protestant Reformation. 50:04.030 --> 50:08.990 I can well remember the time when the priests decided at St. Mary's that they 50:08.990 --> 50:13.910 had to get control of the Phoenix Union High School board and change the history 50:13.910 --> 50:14.330 books. 50:14.970 --> 50:20.870 This is one of the principal reasons why the Catholic Church is quietly trying to 50:20.870 --> 50:24.230 take over the public school boards across the country. 50:25.230 --> 50:30.990 Unfortunately, while Protestants sleep on with tolerance as their excuse, 50:30.990 --> 50:36.690 the Roman hierarchy is succeeding in taking over large segments of the public 50:36.690 --> 50:38.590 school system in America. 50:39.890 --> 50:42.790 Briefly, he touches on crime and superstitions. 50:43.370 --> 50:49.150 My book, Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church, has shown that the high 50:49.150 --> 50:55.550 rate of crime and sin among Roman Catholics everywhere, and particularly in 50:55.550 --> 51:00.410 the United States, is due to the indoctrination of the Catholic moral code 51:00.410 --> 51:00.910 itself. 51:01.630 --> 51:08.030 It has demonstrated that this immorality is not in spite of Catholic education and 51:08.030 --> 51:10.590 training, but directly because of it. 51:11.150 --> 51:17.390 It has shown that the Catholic child is more apt to grow into adulthood not only 51:17.390 --> 51:24.170 mentally illiterate, but morally criminal and emotionally neurotic if he attends a 51:24.170 --> 51:26.730 Catholic school rather than a public school. 51:27.390 --> 51:33.230 It has shown that the concept of venial sin leads to a breakdown of integrity, 51:33.750 --> 51:38.210 honesty, and truthfulness in society and in business. 51:39.530 --> 51:44.110 In spite of her protestations that she is the only divinely founded church, 51:44.110 --> 51:48.730 that she is holy, that she can and does produce holiness in her members, 51:49.370 --> 51:54.290 the Roman Catholic Church has failed in the past to hold aloft the banner of 51:54.290 --> 51:54.790 morality. 51:55.550 --> 52:00.490 And in our time, she continues to harbor more criminals and sinners than other 52:00.490 --> 52:04.530 churches, more even than among people who renounce all religion. 52:05.430 --> 52:10.750 Some of the reasons for this remarkable phenomenon have been outlined in my books. 52:10.750 --> 52:17.170 venial sins, penal laws, and the church's unnatural and futile handling of sex. 52:17.950 --> 52:23.210 Another significant explanation for much of Roman Catholic lawlessness lies in the 52:23.210 --> 52:24.510 structure of Catholicism. 52:25.270 --> 52:30.430 Its code of behavior is built upon ritual and superstition rather than upon true 52:30.430 --> 52:35.350 religion, reasoned ethics, self-education, and self-control. 52:35.350 --> 52:41.710 The most important ritual for the control and rehabilitation of the behavior of 52:41.710 --> 52:44.890 Roman Catholics is the ceremony of confession. 52:45.870 --> 52:52.050 It is the epitome of superstition in the church's century-old bag of magic tricks 52:52.050 --> 52:52.790 and amulets. 52:53.290 --> 52:58.130 It is an astounding thing that the Roman Catholic bishops have been so successful 52:58.130 --> 53:03.610 in the so-called education of Catholic people and children through the parochial 53:03.610 --> 53:08.570 school system that they have been able to prevent their own people from learning how 53:08.570 --> 53:15.430 un-American these Catholic doctrines are and how ridiculous and how petty some of 53:15.430 --> 53:16.790 their laws can be. 53:17.630 --> 53:23.470 The un-Americanism is particularly found in the prohibition of freedom of thought, 53:24.090 --> 53:29.230 freedom of reading, and freedom of worship as it is taught in the Catholic schools. 53:29.230 --> 53:35.410 In the light of the un-Americanism and anti-Protestantism of the Catholic school 53:35.410 --> 53:42.350 system, it is amazing that the cardinals and bishops have the colossal gall to 53:42.350 --> 53:48.590 demand federal tax funds from the rest of us to build and operate their schools. 53:49.470 --> 53:56.310 Through bills that are now in Congress, they want us to pay them to teach millions 53:56.310 --> 54:02.290 of their children that they will go to hell forever if they worship God in our 54:02.290 --> 54:02.770 churches. 54:03.690 --> 54:10.410 The sad proof of our decadence is that we have been so lulled by the false siren of 54:10.410 --> 54:13.750 tolerance that we will probably let them get away with it. 54:14.590 --> 54:18.730 Mr. McLaughlin speaks at Constitution Hall, Washington, D.C., on an 54:18.730 --> 54:19.850 all-important subject. 54:32.960 --> 54:36.260 Tonight, we are discussing the school system. 54:36.260 --> 54:41.840 And our reason for doing that is that, if you noticed in the papers, that the 54:41.840 --> 54:47.920 issue of federal aid to schools is probably going to be voted on in Congress 54:47.920 --> 54:50.820 within this month or during next month. 54:51.400 --> 54:59.540 And this issue is of tremendous importance because of the battle that is going on 54:59.540 --> 55:05.140 right now between President Kennedy and the hierarchy of the Catholic Church over 55:05.140 --> 55:08.000 the question of federal aid to parochial schools. 55:09.100 --> 55:15.060 It's an issue that can affect us where it hurts the most, in our pocketbooks, 55:15.280 --> 55:21.540 or I might say where it also hurts even more than that, and that is in our ideals 55:21.540 --> 55:25.500 as far as democracy is concerned. 55:26.660 --> 55:31.800 Mr. McLaughlin gives us an insight on one of the Church's innermost secrets and how 55:31.800 --> 55:32.340 it works. 55:33.500 --> 55:39.760 Confession is taught to be one of the seven sacraments, the sacrament of 55:39.760 --> 55:43.720 penance, established by Christ for the forgiveness of sins. 55:44.720 --> 55:46.860 Historically, of course, this is not true. 55:48.460 --> 55:51.220 Confession was a gradual historical growth. 55:51.220 --> 55:57.660 Individual private confession to a priest was not even made a law of the Universal 55:57.660 --> 56:01.840 Church until 1214 in the Council of the Lantern. 56:02.800 --> 56:09.440 The law of the Church now, not the law of Christ, is that Catholics must confess to 56:09.440 --> 56:11.840 a priest at least once a year. 56:12.600 --> 56:16.520 They must confess all mortal or serious sins. 56:17.880 --> 56:23.500 Catholics are taught that the priest has the power, if he wants to, to forgive 56:23.500 --> 56:24.240 their sins. 56:25.260 --> 56:29.780 The confessional is also a part of the Catholic educational system. 56:30.740 --> 56:35.480 It is one of the means that the Church uses for keeping people under its control, 56:36.100 --> 56:39.820 and this was probably the basic reason for its historical development. 56:40.710 --> 56:46.180 It is a sort of a personal classroom, one might say, between the priest and the 56:46.180 --> 56:47.320 individual Catholic. 56:48.180 --> 56:53.680 The confessional offers the priest the opportunity to lecture the Catholic. 56:54.440 --> 56:59.280 In fact, it is required that the priest lecture the person on the law of the 56:59.280 --> 57:04.360 Church and on its observance, on such matters, for instance, as not eating meat 57:04.360 --> 57:10.000 on Friday, and especially on the obligation of attending Mass on Sunday. 57:11.060 --> 57:16.300 Sexual elements of the Church's code are also among the things that priests 57:16.300 --> 57:18.520 routinely question people about. 57:19.420 --> 57:24.220 The confessional offers the opportunity for this very detailed, individual, 57:24.600 --> 57:26.040 concentrated instruction. 57:26.040 --> 57:33.220 Of course, it also offers the opportunity for some of the most violent abuses that 57:33.220 --> 57:35.360 are so notorious in the Catholic Church. 57:36.120 --> 57:41.720 The principal crime in this regard is the seduction of women in the confessional. 57:42.520 --> 57:48.200 This is called solicitation, and any priest who is guilty of it is very 57:48.200 --> 57:51.720 severely punished if he happens to be caught. 57:51.720 --> 57:56.780 It would never occur to me to reveal what people have told me in the confessional, 57:57.220 --> 58:03.160 because they talk to me in confidence, and I respect the confidence of those 58:03.160 --> 58:03.540 people. 58:04.180 --> 58:09.820 In the 14 years that I have heard confessions, I have heard every form of 58:09.820 --> 58:14.340 crime, perversity, and aberration known to the mind of man. 58:14.940 --> 58:20.320 Still, it would never remotely occur to me to reveal any of these things. 58:20.320 --> 58:27.240 The cubicle, or the confessional, the physical compartment in which 58:27.240 --> 58:33.240 confessions are heard, is built for the purpose of helping to guarantee and assure 58:33.240 --> 58:34.160 the secrecy. 58:34.960 --> 58:43.120 The penitent, or the sinner, is in a dark closet that is like a little room where 58:43.120 --> 58:44.540 the priest cannot see him. 58:44.540 --> 58:50.900 And presumably, unless the priest can recognize his voice, the priest cannot 58:50.900 --> 58:52.040 identify him. 58:52.620 --> 58:57.120 Historically, it can be shown that the foundation upon which a great part of 58:57.120 --> 59:00.700 Roman Catholic morality is built is one of weakness. 59:01.540 --> 59:07.640 Sociologically, an aspect of this problem is that with a large part of the faithful, 59:07.800 --> 59:13.760 the ritual of confession makes sin not more difficult, but much more easy. 59:14.360 --> 59:18.660 The secrecy, the darkness, and the anonymity of the confessional, 59:18.820 --> 59:24.120 and the repetition of the ceremony, overcome the shame and make the repetition 59:24.120 --> 59:25.960 of the crime easier. 59:26.960 --> 59:32.440 As long as people are healthy and reasonably assured of living until they 59:32.440 --> 59:37.380 can confess, many Catholics can and do sin with impunity. 59:38.200 --> 59:42.460 Here, a ridiculous point in the Church's teachings is made. 59:43.640 --> 59:49.480 A mortal sin is a serious sin, which, if unforgiven, would plunge a soul 59:49.480 --> 59:52.740 into hell for all eternity at death. 59:52.740 --> 59:58.520 Lesser sins that merely send the soul to purgatory are called venial sins. 59:59.460 --> 01:00:05.000 Obvious mortal sins are such things as murder, suicide, or adultery. 01:00:05.700 --> 01:00:12.120 But the Church uses the concept of mortal sin as a club to keep its people under 01:00:12.120 --> 01:00:12.720 control. 01:00:13.560 --> 01:00:19.820 Catholics are so thoroughly indoctrinated that they don't realize the ridiculousness 01:00:19.820 --> 01:00:23.520 of their Church's laws regarding mortal and venial sin. 01:00:24.240 --> 01:00:30.580 For instance, it is a venial sin to steal $99, but it becomes a mortal sin 01:00:30.580 --> 01:00:34.740 punishable by eternal hellfire if a person steals $100. 01:00:35.500 --> 01:00:39.900 Hell has lost its fury, and death has lost its sting. 01:00:40.900 --> 01:00:46.280 You will be shocked by Mr. McLaughlin's further revelations in Part 4 of this 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:47.400 transcribed program. 01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:01.560 The word ecumenical means worldwide. 01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.780 An ecumenical council is presumably a worldwide council of Christians. 01:01:08.700 --> 01:01:12.140 Actually, it is not a worldwide council at all. 01:01:12.140 --> 01:01:18.040 What Pope John XXIII has called is not even a worldwide council of Roman 01:01:18.040 --> 01:01:18.460 Catholics. 01:01:19.180 --> 01:01:22.560 It is a worldwide council of the Catholic hierarchy. 01:01:23.260 --> 01:01:28.940 That is, the patriarchs, cardinals, archbishops, and bishops of the Roman 01:01:28.940 --> 01:01:29.920 Catholic Church. 01:01:30.820 --> 01:01:34.680 The Pope has been talking of this worldwide council for more than a year. 01:01:34.680 --> 01:01:40.280 It is supposed to be a continuance of the First Vatican Council, which was held in 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:42.800 1870 and was never completed. 01:01:43.640 --> 01:01:46.700 That council was interrupted by the Franco-Prussian War. 01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:53.920 It was that council that, under Pope Pius IX, declared the Pope infallible in all 01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:55.660 matters of faith and morals. 01:01:55.660 --> 01:02:01.880 This word infallible means that the Pope could not be wrong when he officially 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:07.580 teaches on matters of faith and morals, or belief and behavior. 01:02:08.300 --> 01:02:13.240 In his Christmas announcement, the Pope stated for the public that the 01:02:13.240 --> 01:02:19.260 council was being called principally to deal with the march of what he said was 01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:23.980 militant atheism, which is active on a world level. 01:02:24.560 --> 01:02:27.280 Those are the words of the call for the council. 01:02:28.540 --> 01:02:33.740 The naked truth is that the council is being called by the Pope in a desperate 01:02:33.740 --> 01:02:39.980 effort of the Roman Catholic Church to save itself, and itself only, from the 01:02:39.980 --> 01:02:41.060 advance of communism. 01:02:41.980 --> 01:02:46.100 The Pope speaks for publication of the danger of atheism. 01:02:46.100 --> 01:02:51.440 The truth is that the Pope and the hierarchy are afraid of the political 01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:56.380 expansion of the communist regime, and the consequent destruction of Catholic 01:02:56.380 --> 01:03:01.840 power and Roman Catholic influence in countries that used to be called Catholic. 01:03:02.600 --> 01:03:08.360 This has happened in Hungary, in Poland, in Albania, in East Germany, and in Cuba. 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:13.680 The Church and its leaders are frantically afraid that this same loss of power, 01:03:14.140 --> 01:03:19.560 prestige, and money may occur in other Catholic countries, especially the 01:03:19.560 --> 01:03:20.940 countries of Latin America. 01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:27.480 The first purpose of this ecumenical council, the so-called Second Vatican 01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:33.480 Council, is to try to stop the march of communism as a threat to Catholicism. 01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:38.680 Its second aim is to attempt in the countries that will not become 01:03:38.680 --> 01:03:43.840 communistic, and this means the Protestant countries of Europe, and particularly the 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:49.960 United States, to increase its power and work ever towards the ultimate aim of the 01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:55.300 papacy, which is the supreme control of the human race and the human mind, 01:03:55.720 --> 01:03:58.760 such as it enjoyed in the early Middle Ages. 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:05.240 The Pope and the hierarchy cloak these purely human and selfish aims with pious 01:04:05.240 --> 01:04:10.900 slogans, such as winning souls for Christ or making America Catholic. 01:04:11.580 --> 01:04:17.920 The ultimate aims of the papacy under Pope John XXIII are the same as those under 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:22.920 Pope Pius IX at the time of Abraham Lincoln or of Gregory the Great in the 01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:23.460 Middle Ages. 01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:29.140 The Roman Catholic Church still insists that it alone is the Church that Christ 01:04:29.140 --> 01:04:33.320 has founded, and that the Pope is a representative of Christ himself, 01:04:33.900 --> 01:04:39.280 and that all men on earth owe primary loyalty to God through the Pope. 01:04:40.020 --> 01:04:45.080 The oath of allegiance that any Catholic may take in any country in the world is 01:04:45.080 --> 01:04:49.500 secondary to the pledge of obedience to the Church, and presumably, therefore, 01:04:49.780 --> 01:04:50.440 to God. 01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:58.220 For centuries, the papacy has secured this sacrificing loyalty of men by identifying 01:04:58.220 --> 01:05:01.820 itself with God and the papacy with Christ. 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:07.320 In the call of the Ecumenical Council, when the Pope speaks of the unity of 01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:14.860 Christendom, he does not mean unity as Americans or Protestants or non-Catholics 01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:18.040 in general understand the word unity. 01:05:18.040 --> 01:05:24.300 He means the unity of a river with the ocean, or of a small fish with a shark, 01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:27.520 or the unity of a sheep with a wolf. 01:05:28.240 --> 01:05:32.640 It means the absorption of all other people by the Roman Catholic Church. 01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:38.520 This unity is in reality not for the purpose of saving men's souls, 01:05:39.060 --> 01:05:44.960 but for the purpose of adding more people, of bringing in more money, and of creating 01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:50.420 more power in the centuries-old struggle of the Vatican to rule the world. 01:05:50.420 --> 01:05:56.780 In the calling of the Ecumenical Council, Pope John XXIII is not interested in 01:05:56.780 --> 01:06:03.420 democracy or in the survival of the people of democratic nations, except as they 01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:08.220 constitute a fighting force to be used to fight on the side of the Church. 01:06:08.220 --> 01:06:13.680 The Pope in this Council is not interested in helping Protestant Christians. 01:06:14.540 --> 01:06:22.000 Through its concordance, this Pope still persecutes Christian Protestants in Spain, 01:06:22.340 --> 01:06:25.260 in Italy, and in many countries of South America. 01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:31.000 This Pope, in his call for the Ecumenical Council, is not interested in Masonic 01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:31.440 Christians. 01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:36.780 He still imprisons them through the Concordat of Spain, and he still, 01:06:37.020 --> 01:06:42.180 through his canon law, excommunicates Catholics who join them anywhere in the 01:06:42.180 --> 01:06:42.500 world. 01:06:43.260 --> 01:06:48.840 If the Pope were really interested in the preservation of Christianity, and not in 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:53.260 the mere survival of the Roman Catholic Church, he would have invited all 01:06:53.260 --> 01:06:55.860 Christians to attend his Ecumenical Council. 01:06:56.760 --> 01:07:02.160 If atheism is such a danger and a threat, it concerns not only Roman Catholics, 01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:06.280 but Methodists, and Baptists, and Seventh-day Adventists, and every other 01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.180 member of the broad family of Christendom. 01:07:08.180 --> 01:07:13.000 The Pope could really prove that this Council is ecumenical by inviting 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:17.040 representatives of all these denominations, and of the Christian laity 01:07:17.040 --> 01:07:23.140 as well, both Catholic and non-Catholic, to gather to discuss and to have the right 01:07:23.140 --> 01:07:26.760 to vote on issues for the welfare of all Christianity. 01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:33.460 Most Roman Catholic laypeople, and all too many Protestants, scream of 01:07:33.460 --> 01:07:40.160 bigotry, prejudice, and anti-Catholicism, especially at an ex-priest, when he lays 01:07:40.160 --> 01:07:45.420 bare the true aims of the papacy, and particularly the aims of the papacy 01:07:45.420 --> 01:07:47.840 and the hierarchy in the United States. 01:07:48.580 --> 01:07:54.740 The American Catholic hierarchy has assumed such a cloak of civic cooperation, 01:07:55.220 --> 01:08:00.280 good fellowship, and the spirit of brotherhood, that Protestants often 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:07.120 apologize in shame for even remembering her past history, or for suspecting that 01:08:07.120 --> 01:08:12.780 if she had the power again, she might even revive the Inquisition in its spirit, 01:08:13.100 --> 01:08:14.860 if not in its actual cruelty. 01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:22.300 Protestants feel so strongly of tolerance in this 20th century, that they believe 01:08:22.300 --> 01:08:27.520 the Catholic hierarchy could not even wish, if it had the numerical majority to 01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:33.180 do so, to suppress freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of writing, 01:08:33.860 --> 01:08:39.060 freedom of reading, and particularly freedom of worship in the United States. 01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:44.780 Most Catholics, and many Protestants, all too many for their own future liberty, 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.760 are unaware of the history of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, 01:08:50.260 --> 01:08:56.180 and of what it has gradually, and almost imperceptibly, been doing to take over the 01:08:56.180 --> 01:08:57.360 control of this nation. 01:08:57.360 --> 01:09:04.100 In the rich, free soil of freedom of thought and of worship, prepared and 01:09:04.100 --> 01:09:09.400 preserved by Protestantism and Freemasonry, the poor, discredited Church 01:09:09.400 --> 01:09:11.620 of Rome has grown luxuriously. 01:09:11.620 --> 01:09:17.500 Our Founding Fathers' precautionary measures for the separation of Church and 01:09:17.500 --> 01:09:21.760 State have protected the Catholic Church from government interference. 01:09:22.820 --> 01:09:28.180 No ruler picks its bishops or controls its priests, as in many of the countries of 01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:30.860 the Old World, including Catholic countries. 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:34.240 No laws cover its schools. 01:09:35.080 --> 01:09:37.060 No inspectors censor its sermons. 01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:43.060 From a handful of despised, ignorant immigrants, it has grown within a few 01:09:43.060 --> 01:09:48.100 generations into the wealthiest, the most numerous, and the most powerful 01:09:48.100 --> 01:09:49.280 Church in America. 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:53.120 The Roman Catholic Church has become respectable. 01:09:54.120 --> 01:09:56.740 The President of the United States is one of its members. 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:01.620 So, too, are the majority leaders of both Houses of Congress of the United States. 01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.280 So, too, is the largest single bloc of the members of the Congress. 01:10:06.900 --> 01:10:11.500 The head of all law enforcement in the nation, the Attorney General, is a 01:10:11.500 --> 01:10:16.280 Catholic, as are a large number of the members of the Federal Bureau of 01:10:16.280 --> 01:10:17.040 Investigation. 01:10:17.660 --> 01:10:22.560 The State Department is like one of its own subservient Vatican congregations. 01:10:23.580 --> 01:10:28.880 Its priests are the chiefs of chaplains of the great Army, Navy, and Air Force of the 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:29.640 United States. 01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:35.600 Its members surround the President in key appointed positions as head of the Central 01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:38.840 Intelligence Agency and the Veterans Administration. 01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:44.540 They honeycomb governmental offices from Washington to state capitals to county 01:10:44.540 --> 01:10:46.200 courthouses and city halls. 01:10:47.200 --> 01:10:51.720 Its communion breakfast deliberately advertises its control of many police and 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:56.660 fire departments, like Hitler used to parade his military strength to scare the 01:10:56.660 --> 01:10:56.940 people. 01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:04.080 Rome claims the greatest church membership in the world, or in history, over 500 01:11:04.080 --> 01:11:04.580 million. 01:11:05.400 --> 01:11:09.520 In the United States, it frightens thoughtful Protestants with its boast of 01:11:09.520 --> 01:11:15.040 40 million, and is generally conceded to have at least 20 million, unless one 01:11:15.040 --> 01:11:17.700 subtracts small children and those who have left it. 01:11:17.700 --> 01:11:23.760 The gifts of American Catholics, plutocrats, gangsters, and paupers have 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:29.480 built the largest private training school system on earth, indoctrinating between 5 01:11:29.480 --> 01:11:35.620 and 6 million American children, born heirs to an unrealized freedom of 01:11:35.620 --> 01:11:40.760 worship in the peculiar code of Catholic behavior and morals. 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:46.560 As if this great machine were not sufficient to mold its members and to 01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:52.920 secure its future, it is gradually and almost imperceptibly taking over America's 01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:54.040 public school system. 01:11:54.040 --> 01:11:59.800 Its Newman clubs preserve the faith and even convert Protestants on non-Catholic 01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:00.300 campuses. 01:12:01.240 --> 01:12:05.760 Catholic teachers infiltrate elementary and secondary schools alike. 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.260 Catholic board members, like a creeping blight, take over more and more public 01:12:11.260 --> 01:12:16.560 school systems and further the cause by adopting favorable textbooks or by 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.300 eliminating those that are hostile. 01:12:19.240 --> 01:12:23.400 A third of the country's nurses are indoctrinated in Catholic hospitals, 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:30.400 built largely with tax funds fraudulently exacted from all of us, and they later go 01:12:30.400 --> 01:12:34.580 into other hospitals, universities, and health departments to teach the 01:12:34.580 --> 01:12:39.180 Catholic prohibition of birth control, abortion, and sterilization. 01:12:40.080 --> 01:12:45.740 Its hierarchical council of cardinals and bishops freely and authoritatively condemn 01:12:45.740 --> 01:12:51.360 the nation's laws, schools, and morals while arrogantly demanding special 01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:53.820 privileges for themselves and their church. 01:12:53.820 --> 01:13:00.540 Through inheritances, collections, and tax exemption, it waxes wealthy beyond 01:13:00.540 --> 01:13:01.040 belief. 01:13:01.820 --> 01:13:04.900 Its property holdings run into the billions of dollars. 01:13:05.780 --> 01:13:12.160 Out of deference to its laws or fear of reprisals, practically every restaurant or 01:13:12.160 --> 01:13:15.420 public school cafeteria serves fish on Friday. 01:13:15.420 --> 01:13:21.660 The Roman Catholic Church in America has the most favorable press in the world. 01:13:22.440 --> 01:13:27.300 Newspapers devote far more than proportionate space to publicize its 01:13:27.300 --> 01:13:29.880 charitable and religious events and ventures. 01:13:30.620 --> 01:13:36.700 The great national magazines usually portray it as the leader of culture and 01:13:36.700 --> 01:13:37.180 humanity. 01:13:37.180 --> 01:13:43.020 Behind this benign philanthropic facade is poised the stinging whip of Catholic 01:13:43.020 --> 01:13:48.540 censorship over all American means of communication, the press, books, 01:13:48.900 --> 01:13:50.980 motion pictures, radio, and television. 01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:57.340 It reinforces this bastion of favorable presentation of itself with its own press, 01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:04.700 both diocesan and national, carrying its side, of all questions, into millions of 01:14:04.700 --> 01:14:05.100 homes. 01:14:05.100 --> 01:14:11.400 Years ago, it was said that the two greatest world organizations were the 01:14:11.400 --> 01:14:14.320 Standard Oil Company and the Roman Catholic Church. 01:14:15.020 --> 01:14:17.180 Standard Oil is no longer in the race. 01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:23.680 Catholicism, especially in America, now is the most powerful organization in 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:24.160 the country. 01:14:24.160 --> 01:14:30.720 It is able, almost at will, to force its demands upon the American people and 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:31.400 institutions. 01:14:32.120 --> 01:14:37.680 It seems only a matter of a short time until it will be able to complete its 01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:43.480 mopping up operations so that it will be able to make America Catholic and 01:14:43.480 --> 01:14:49.840 establish again, in the United States of America, the full power and prestige over 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.640 people and their liberties that it enjoyed in the Middle Ages. 01:14:54.500 --> 01:14:59.300 I wish that more people could read the letters that I receive from all parts of 01:14:59.300 --> 01:15:00.200 the United States. 01:15:01.240 --> 01:15:06.140 I wish they could hear the almost despairing attitude of the thousands of 01:15:06.140 --> 01:15:12.340 people who, especially in the wintertime, come to Phoenix as tourists and stop into 01:15:12.340 --> 01:15:18.640 my office at the hospital to express their very serious fears that the Catholic 01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:23.620 Church is, if not actually taking over the control of large segments of the world, 01:15:23.620 --> 01:15:29.700 of the country and its institutions, is at least on the verge of doing so. 01:15:30.460 --> 01:15:36.400 I wish, too, that people could meet the thousands upon thousands of those that I 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:40.800 have met and continue to meet in cities all over the country. 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:46.840 Columbus, Ohio, Erie, Pennsylvania, Newark, New Jersey, Long Island, 01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:53.200 New York, Dallas, Texas, Needham, Massachusetts, San Diego, San Francisco, 01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:59.380 Burlingame, Santa Monica, Long Beach, Loma Linda, Sierra Vista, Kansas City, 01:16:00.160 --> 01:16:02.680 St. Louis, Portland, Seattle. 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:08.240 Cities everywhere in the country where these thousands of people gather to attend 01:16:08.240 --> 01:16:15.800 Protestant and other American united rallies and are very much concerned about 01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:20.060 the threat of the Catholic hierarchy's attempt to control the country. 01:16:21.080 --> 01:16:26.220 They are concerned that this threat is more imminent than the threat of 01:16:26.220 --> 01:16:26.820 communism. 01:16:26.820 --> 01:16:33.380 I am not trying to belittle the danger of the communistic system to our way of life, 01:16:33.780 --> 01:16:39.160 but I am glad that thousands upon thousands feel as I do that Roman 01:16:39.160 --> 01:16:45.580 Catholicism is a more threatening and even greater danger because it already exists 01:16:45.580 --> 01:16:46.700 in the United States. 01:16:46.700 --> 01:16:51.400 It already controls our Congress to a great extent. 01:16:51.940 --> 01:16:57.100 It controls many of our state capitals, many of our state legislatures. 01:16:57.860 --> 01:17:03.280 I used to think that I was alone in my feeling and that perhaps I was a bit 01:17:03.280 --> 01:17:07.820 paranoid or was seeing Vatican ghosts under the bed. 01:17:08.700 --> 01:17:12.660 When asked about the financial holdings of the Catholic Church in America, 01:17:13.040 --> 01:17:14.320 this was his answer. 01:17:14.320 --> 01:17:21.540 In the United States, most Catholic property is owned by the bishop of the 01:17:21.540 --> 01:17:23.320 particular diocese. 01:17:23.400 --> 01:17:27.980 It is under the legal entity of what is called the corporation soul. 01:17:28.820 --> 01:17:33.480 This is a corporation which is vested in one individual, the bishop himself. 01:17:34.220 --> 01:17:38.660 In case of his death, all of that property goes on to his successor. 01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:45.400 Legally, the bishop would have the right to give away or to will any or all of the 01:17:45.400 --> 01:17:50.880 church property to anybody he wants to, but under the oath he has taken as bishop, 01:17:51.460 --> 01:17:56.120 he is forbidden to do this and must will all of his property to his successor. 01:17:57.440 --> 01:18:02.500 Ultimately, however, all Catholic church property belongs to the pope. 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:09.040 According to last month's issue of Church and State, the magazine of P.O.A.U. 01:18:09.140 --> 01:18:13.780 or Protestants and Other Americans United, the amount of the Catholic Church's 01:18:13.780 --> 01:18:18.040 holdings in the United States are in the vicinity of $11 billion. 01:18:18.040 --> 01:18:24.300 The article claims that the Catholic Church is the richest organization in the 01:18:24.300 --> 01:18:28.100 United States outside of the United States government itself. 01:18:28.980 --> 01:18:35.500 What the church's holdings are in non-church related property and what they 01:18:35.500 --> 01:18:38.260 would total in the United States, no one knows. 01:18:38.260 --> 01:18:44.460 But we do know that they include distilleries, wineries, radio and 01:18:44.460 --> 01:18:50.700 television stations, and all sorts of property and various types of industries. 01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:57.980 In the current January 1962 issue of Church and State, an article indicates 01:18:57.980 --> 01:19:04.740 also that another very extensive financial resource of the Roman Catholic Church is 01:19:04.740 --> 01:19:12.620 its press, which claims 581 publications with a readership of 25 million people. 01:19:13.480 --> 01:19:19.720 One of these alone, the Catholic Digest, claims to gross $5 million annually. 01:19:20.980 --> 01:19:27.420 One of the Italian Catholic firms now operating within the United States is 01:19:27.420 --> 01:19:28.960 called Immobilare. 01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:34.540 It is the largest real estate organization in Italy and is owned by the Vatican. 01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:40.980 The citizens of Washington, D.C., recently learned with interest of a $75 01:19:40.980 --> 01:19:47.420 million housing project for Foggy Bottom, a major urban renewal area. 01:19:47.420 --> 01:19:55.420 This project was to be executed primarily by the Associata Generale Immobilare of 01:19:55.420 --> 01:20:01.500 Rome, which had already built a large $4 million cooperative apartment building in 01:20:01.500 --> 01:20:02.020 the area. 01:20:02.020 --> 01:20:08.020 Meanwhile, from Montreal, Canada, comes further reports of Immobilare. 01:20:08.740 --> 01:20:16.160 This Vatican firm is about to construct the Place Victoria, which is a building of 01:20:16.160 --> 01:20:23.660 three 51-story towers with six underground levels, the largest office grouping in 01:20:23.660 --> 01:20:24.440 North America. 01:20:24.440 --> 01:20:27.900 I have a book right here in Spanish. 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:34.140 It is called the Misión Secreta en el Vaticano, or the Secret Mission in the 01:20:34.140 --> 01:20:40.240 Vatican, and was written by a reporter named Jose Natividad Rosales. 01:20:40.240 --> 01:20:47.080 Mr. Rosales is a former Roman Catholic who was trained by the Jesuits and lost his 01:20:47.080 --> 01:20:53.640 Catholic faith when he was sent to Rome as a correspondent at the Vatican for the 01:20:53.640 --> 01:21:00.560 Mexican magazine Siempre, which is a photo magazine similar to Our Life magazine. 01:21:01.740 --> 01:21:07.460 This book was printed in Mexico, and it has several pages of the lists of 01:21:07.460 --> 01:21:09.960 corporations that the Roman Catholic Church owns. 01:21:10.320 --> 01:21:12.680 This is the only thing of its kind I have seen. 01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:18.580 This list includes banks and credit institutions, financial societies, 01:21:18.860 --> 01:21:23.760 security corporations, mining companies, mechanical organizations, petroleum 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:28.940 industries, textile industries, food industries, including macaroni and 01:21:28.940 --> 01:21:32.820 pasta factories, and even steamship lines. 01:21:33.940 --> 01:21:39.180 Alitalia, the Italian international airline, is listed as being owned by the 01:21:39.180 --> 01:21:43.060 Roman Catholic Church and many other commercial organizations. 01:21:43.880 --> 01:21:47.660 There must be at least 90 corporations listed in this book. 01:21:47.660 --> 01:21:52.980 Incidentally, it is interesting that in the listing of these corporations, 01:21:53.240 --> 01:21:58.600 the name that appears as the president of the corporation more than any other is the 01:21:58.600 --> 01:21:59.520 name Pacelli. 01:22:00.440 --> 01:22:07.900 It should be recalled that Pope Pius XII was Pacelli, and the Pacellis listed here 01:22:07.900 --> 01:22:10.480 are his relatives. 01:22:11.320 --> 01:22:17.540 They are the presidents and managers of many of these corporations, including the 01:22:17.540 --> 01:22:24.460 Bank of Rome, two of the steamship lines, and Alitalia, and one of the largest drug 01:22:24.460 --> 01:22:24.980 firms. 01:22:25.540 --> 01:22:30.100 On record number five, Mr. McLaughlin speaks about a disturbing subject, 01:22:30.540 --> 01:22:33.240 and he makes a startling comparison. 01:22:38.820 --> 01:22:45.660 The Catholic Church's greed for money is really a shock to a young priest. 01:22:46.580 --> 01:22:53.200 As a Franciscan student and a Franciscan monk, I had been taught the ideal of 01:22:53.200 --> 01:22:53.640 poverty. 01:22:54.260 --> 01:22:58.940 I had made the vow of poverty, under which I was to have no money 01:22:58.940 --> 01:23:04.240 throughout my entire life, and under which the monasteries in which I would live 01:23:04.240 --> 01:23:09.260 would have no money and would be built according to the strictest ideals of 01:23:09.260 --> 01:23:09.660 poverty. 01:23:10.360 --> 01:23:15.040 This was in conformity with the ideals of St. Francis, who founded the Franciscan 01:23:15.040 --> 01:23:17.460 Order back in the year 1206. 01:23:18.340 --> 01:23:24.840 I did not realize through those early years as a student and as a priest the 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:29.780 violations of the ideal of poverty that were really taking place in the monastery 01:23:29.780 --> 01:23:35.140 in which I lived in Santa Barbara, or in the monastery in the parish in which 01:23:35.140 --> 01:23:36.180 I worked in Phoenix. 01:23:36.900 --> 01:23:43.440 This greed for money was brought home very strongly to me for the first time when I 01:23:43.440 --> 01:23:44.660 visited New York City. 01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:50.940 I went into St. Patrick's Cathedral, and there was an usher with a table of 01:23:50.940 --> 01:23:56.560 small change before him who demanded 25 cents of me before I could sit down and 01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:57.480 attend Mass. 01:23:58.200 --> 01:24:02.940 This struck me as something that was completely in violation not only of the 01:24:02.940 --> 01:24:07.400 ideals of Franciscan poverty, but of the ideals of Christ himself. 01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:12.920 It brought to my mind the picture of Christ driving the money changers out of 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:13.360 the temple. 01:24:14.320 --> 01:24:19.620 The money changers were very much in evidence inside the doors of St. Patrick's 01:24:19.620 --> 01:24:22.060 Cathedral on Fifth Avenue in New York. 01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:28.840 Martin Luther had broken with the Catholic Church initially over this question of 01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:31.820 money in the sale of indulgences. 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:40.220 An indulgence is a remission of the punishment due to sin, practically 01:24:40.220 --> 01:24:47.760 speaking, the most common means by which souls can be brought out of purgatory and 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:48.400 into heaven. 01:24:49.120 --> 01:24:56.120 The slogan current when John Tetzel was trying to raise money for the building of 01:24:56.120 --> 01:25:02.380 St. Peter's Cathedral as he toured Germany was that when the coin clicked in the box, 01:25:02.940 --> 01:25:05.040 the soul popped out of purgatory. 01:25:05.040 --> 01:25:09.220 This abuse was called simony. 01:25:10.120 --> 01:25:15.040 The word simony comes from the story in the Acts of the Apostles in the New 01:25:15.040 --> 01:25:22.120 Testament of Simon Magus, the Samaritan sorcerer, who offered one of the apostles 01:25:22.120 --> 01:25:26.440 money in order to secure the power of the Holy Ghost. 01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:33.200 Simony means the selling of benefices or of spiritual things. 01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:40.880 In the Middle Ages, this abuse referred principally to the sale of bishoprics and 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:41.740 indulgences. 01:25:42.440 --> 01:25:48.780 In our days in the seminary, we had read of simony and had been taught that this 01:25:48.780 --> 01:25:51.980 abuse had been eliminated by the Council of Trent. 01:25:52.780 --> 01:25:58.960 We didn't stop to realize that this was being continued, not only in the sale of 01:25:58.960 --> 01:26:03.520 religious articles, but particularly in the sale of masses. 01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:10.420 The Mass is taught to Catholics to be the repetition of the sacrifice of Christ on 01:26:10.420 --> 01:26:10.980 the cross. 01:26:11.660 --> 01:26:16.360 It is taught to Catholics and to seminarians studying for the priesthood to 01:26:16.360 --> 01:26:18.520 be of infinite spiritual value. 01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:24.380 Catholics are taught that the Mass can be applied not only for material benefits in 01:26:24.380 --> 01:26:29.040 this world, but particularly for the releasing of souls from purgatory. 01:26:29.860 --> 01:26:35.220 It was not until I was in the priesthood for several years that I began to realize 01:26:35.220 --> 01:26:41.900 fully what a commercial traffic in spiritual things the Mass provided. 01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:46.340 I was one of those that took in what are called Mass stipends. 01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:51.040 A stipend is simply a financial offering for the Mass. 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:56.920 It is called an offering because, presumably, the Mass is not for sale. 01:26:57.660 --> 01:27:02.800 On the other hand, if the offering is not made, the Mass will not be said or 01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:04.940 recited, so it is for sale. 01:27:05.730 --> 01:27:12.160 The required offering used to be $1, but many people would offer $5 or $10. 01:27:13.260 --> 01:27:17.960 And it was quite a disillusionment to me to find out that the better-paying 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:24.200 stipends, such as the $5 and $10 and $20 Mass offerings, were kept at St. Mary's 01:27:24.200 --> 01:27:29.480 Church in Phoenix, and that the cheaper offerings, such as the $1 stipends, 01:27:29.700 --> 01:27:32.940 were sent to the missionaries out on the Indian reservations. 01:27:32.940 --> 01:27:39.780 And even as far away as China, so the Masses that people wanted said for 01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:46.340 the souls of their relatives or dear ones might not even be said for a year after 01:27:46.340 --> 01:27:47.840 the money had been offered. 01:27:48.500 --> 01:27:51.940 This is customary throughout the Catholic Church. 01:27:52.680 --> 01:27:59.500 Catholics in America feel that in Mexico and throughout South America, the greed of 01:27:59.500 --> 01:28:02.940 the Church is more obvious than it is in the United States. 01:28:04.020 --> 01:28:11.140 I stood in one spot in the cathedral in Mexico City and saw 13 collection boxes 01:28:11.140 --> 01:28:13.360 that could be counted from that one spot. 01:28:14.120 --> 01:28:19.460 The people there are not only asked to donate in the collections for Mass every 01:28:19.460 --> 01:28:25.500 Sunday, and sometimes I have seen it done in Phoenix, where three collections were 01:28:25.500 --> 01:28:27.320 taken up during one Mass. 01:28:27.820 --> 01:28:32.160 But in Latin American countries, they have to donate to get any kind of 01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:35.940 prayers at all said for them, or any spiritual benefits. 01:28:36.660 --> 01:28:43.280 This is nauseatingly obvious in Mexico and Peru, where the people would offer money, 01:28:43.700 --> 01:28:48.020 put it into the slots in front of the statues while they pray to the image of 01:28:48.020 --> 01:28:49.800 St. Joseph or the Virgin Mary. 01:28:50.540 --> 01:28:57.920 The signs on the boxes in these instances said, Limosna a San Jose, Limosla a la 01:28:57.920 --> 01:29:03.180 Virgen Maria, alms to St. Joseph, alms to the Virgin Mary. 01:29:04.120 --> 01:29:09.560 When both St. Joseph and the Virgin Mary have been dead for 2,000 years, 01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:15.060 and they certainly didn't need the alms at all, it was quite obvious where the alms 01:29:15.060 --> 01:29:15.640 were going. 01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:22.320 But the greed of the Catholic Church is not more prevalent in Latin America than 01:29:22.320 --> 01:29:23.700 it is in the United States. 01:29:24.280 --> 01:29:28.060 It has merely been going on longer south of the border. 01:29:28.060 --> 01:29:36.580 The crassest example of greed that I ever experienced was the desire of the Church 01:29:36.580 --> 01:29:39.340 to make money out of me and our hospital. 01:29:39.940 --> 01:29:45.900 In spite of all the self-righteous piety of the Franciscan officials and their 01:29:45.900 --> 01:29:51.460 constant remonstrances that I was not pious and holy enough, that I was too 01:29:51.460 --> 01:29:56.840 worldly in my personal life and social welfare activity, they were willing to 01:29:56.840 --> 01:30:00.140 leave me alone if I would pay off in money. 01:30:01.240 --> 01:30:10.160 The pastor of St. Mary's Church told me in late 1947 or early 1948 that if I would 01:30:10.160 --> 01:30:17.560 put myself on the payroll of this hospital at $500 per month and turn the $500 a 01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:21.920 month over to the Franciscan Order, that they would leave me alone for the 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:27.560 rest of my life and not disturb me or try to move me out of the hospital or 01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.520 interfere in any way with the operation of the hospital. 01:30:31.740 --> 01:30:37.420 Now let's listen to some factual truths of what the Catholic Church thinks about the 01:30:37.420 --> 01:30:37.720 Jew. 01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:46.040 The average Jew has no concept of the continuing mistrust, belittling, 01:30:46.200 --> 01:30:52.380 and very real persecution that the Roman Catholic Church has inflicted upon Jews 01:30:52.380 --> 01:30:55.760 throughout history and right into our own day. 01:30:55.760 --> 01:31:02.140 The Inquisition that robbed, tortured, and killed thousands of Jews in Europe 01:31:02.140 --> 01:31:09.160 during the Middle Ages was more of a Roman Catholic Inquisition than it was a Spanish 01:31:09.160 --> 01:31:10.440 instrument of torture. 01:31:11.460 --> 01:31:17.760 Jews have forgotten that while the six million Jews were killed in Germany by 01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:22.160 Hitler and Eichmann, that country had a concordat with the Vatican. 01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:29.120 And the Vatican did not excommunicate either Hitler or Eichmann or any of the 01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:33.300 rest of the men in charge of that government, most of whom were Roman 01:31:33.300 --> 01:31:33.760 Catholics. 01:31:34.580 --> 01:31:41.340 The Vatican even refused to protest to Hitler when the American government begged 01:31:41.340 --> 01:31:45.420 it to do so in order to try to stop the slaughter of the Jews. 01:31:46.440 --> 01:31:53.100 Anti-Semitism is instilled into Catholic children by priests and nuns when they 01:31:53.100 --> 01:31:59.420 graphically describe the Jews as mean, cruel people who tortured and crucified 01:31:59.420 --> 01:32:00.440 Jesus Christ. 01:32:01.240 --> 01:32:07.800 The anti-Semitism is intensified by the Church's laws on marriage. 01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:14.860 If a Catholic marries a person who is not a Catholic, he must have a dispensation. 01:32:15.740 --> 01:32:22.120 Normally, if he is marrying a Gentile Protestant, that dispensation can be given 01:32:22.120 --> 01:32:28.200 by a person who is called the Dean, that is, a priest in any large community 01:32:28.200 --> 01:32:32.300 who is authorized or delegated by the bishop to give that dispensation. 01:32:32.980 --> 01:32:39.080 If he is marrying a Jew, it requires a very special dispensation which has to 01:32:39.080 --> 01:32:41.180 come from the bishop alone. 01:32:42.300 --> 01:32:48.140 When I was a priest, the liturgy of the Catholic Church, whenever it referred to 01:32:48.140 --> 01:32:53.600 the Jews, used the term of the perfidious Jew. 01:32:54.380 --> 01:32:58.000 In other words, a Jew is not to be trusted. 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:06.360 This phrase, the perfidious Jew, was finally eliminated from the liturgy of 01:33:06.360 --> 01:33:13.260 the Roman Catholic Church by a special act of Pope John XXIII on March 17, 01:33:14.060 --> 01:33:15.140 1959. 01:33:16.440 --> 01:33:23.340 I saw Roman Catholic anti-Semitism in its most crude form when I first went to New 01:33:23.340 --> 01:33:25.780 York in the early 1940s. 01:33:26.540 --> 01:33:30.120 As a Franciscan, I had to stay at a Franciscan church. 01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:36.860 The one that I stayed at was St. Francis Church, the Franciscan Church on 31st 01:33:36.860 --> 01:33:37.200 Street. 01:33:37.200 --> 01:33:42.380 While there, during Holy Week, I went into the church and listened to the 01:33:42.380 --> 01:33:47.340 sermons being preached in the upper and the basement church about Christ's 01:33:47.340 --> 01:33:52.900 salvation on the cross, his sacrifice, the benefit of that sacrifice for all 01:33:52.900 --> 01:33:56.220 human beings, and his love for all mankind. 01:33:57.080 --> 01:34:02.620 Outside the church building were women barking like fishwives, selling Father 01:34:02.620 --> 01:34:05.040 Coughlin's paper, damning the Jews. 01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:12.700 I went into the pastor's office and told him what I had seen and heard, 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:17.260 and that I could not understand the lack of consistency between the sermons being 01:34:17.260 --> 01:34:22.240 preached inside his church and the headlines being screamed outside the 01:34:22.240 --> 01:34:23.380 building by those women. 01:34:23.380 --> 01:34:29.240 He told me very bluntly that it was none of my business, that I knew nothing of the 01:34:29.240 --> 01:34:33.800 situation of the Catholic Church and the Jews in the East, and that I should go on 01:34:33.800 --> 01:34:34.660 back to Arizona. 01:34:35.320 --> 01:34:41.180 I could not reconcile this attitude of the Catholic clergy with the charity that was 01:34:41.180 --> 01:34:44.020 supposed to permeate the Roman Catholic Church. 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:49.820 Mr. McLaughlin has a few words to say about the celibate life of the priest. 01:35:14.020 --> 01:35:17.780 The idea of the Old Testament, as we know, is contrary to the idea of 01:35:17.780 --> 01:35:18.280 celibacy. 01:35:19.220 --> 01:35:21.460 Celibacy was brought in from the Orient. 01:35:22.020 --> 01:35:24.080 It is not a Jewish tradition at all. 01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:31.540 It supposedly came in through the Essenes, who were the group that are said to have 01:35:31.540 --> 01:35:33.440 written the Dead Sea Scrolls. 01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:39.520 Celibacy is an ideal of the Catholic Church that really I don't believe the 01:35:39.520 --> 01:35:41.640 Church itself expects to be followed. 01:35:42.580 --> 01:35:46.540 There is no excommunication involved for a priest who lives with a woman. 01:35:47.480 --> 01:35:50.880 The excommunication occurs when he marries that woman. 01:35:51.820 --> 01:35:56.560 When one of my first classmates, named Father Wilfred Elb, left the 01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.740 priesthood, I was sent to the courthouse to get proof of the marriage. 01:36:01.540 --> 01:36:04.420 The pastor at the time made this statement. 01:36:05.160 --> 01:36:07.600 Why didn't he merely live with her for a while? 01:36:08.200 --> 01:36:10.960 Why did he have to marry her and be excommunicated? 01:36:11.940 --> 01:36:17.180 The Church doesn't recognize the validity of the marriage of the clergy since the 01:36:17.180 --> 01:36:18.580 days of the Council of Trent. 01:36:19.360 --> 01:36:23.620 Celibacy was only a gradual development in the Roman Catholic Church. 01:36:24.100 --> 01:36:31.300 And it was not until the time of the Second Council of the Lateran in 1214 that 01:36:31.300 --> 01:36:33.100 the marriage of the clergy was forbidden. 01:36:33.100 --> 01:36:38.680 But that council did not forbid the marriage of the clergy under the penalty 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:41.000 of invalidity of the marriage. 01:36:41.540 --> 01:36:45.820 It was sinful or illicit, but not invalid. 01:36:46.440 --> 01:36:51.600 The important point was that throughout those early centuries and during the 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:57.120 Middle Ages, while the marriage of the clergy was constantly condemned, 01:36:57.600 --> 01:37:01.980 it was very widespread and still considered valid. 01:37:02.820 --> 01:37:09.540 On the basis of my own personal experience in hearing the confessions of priests, 01:37:10.500 --> 01:37:15.920 living with them, and talking with ex-priests from all parts of the United 01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:22.840 States, I am convinced that celibacy is no better observed now than it was in the 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.400 days of the Council of Trent in the 16th century. 01:37:25.400 --> 01:37:31.140 In the United States, the violations are merely concealed more carefully. 01:37:32.220 --> 01:37:37.020 In my book, Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church, there are several 01:37:37.020 --> 01:37:41.020 chapters on the past and present history of celibacy. 01:37:41.020 --> 01:37:48.380 One of my acquaintances, a former priest by the name of Bruce Dixon, who lives in 01:37:48.380 --> 01:37:56.740 Tucson, named names, dates, and places of the violations of celibacy to me. 01:37:56.740 --> 01:38:01.620 He contended that many of the priests that he knew were wantonly homosexual. 01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:07.060 Others routinely had affairs with as many as a half a dozen women at once. 01:38:07.900 --> 01:38:12.320 He named a cardinal who brought his mistress from Nashville and maintained her 01:38:12.320 --> 01:38:13.680 in a Chicago hotel. 01:38:14.540 --> 01:38:18.020 He witnessed the cardinal's orgies with this naked woman. 01:38:18.780 --> 01:38:24.560 He named a pastor who had a mother and two daughters as his housekeeper and lived 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.980 carnally with all three of them, frequently in the presence of each other. 01:38:29.640 --> 01:38:36.200 When physically exhausted, this priest had asked my ex-priest friend to take over for 01:38:36.200 --> 01:38:40.560 him, but in such a manner that he could observe and supervise the proceedings. 01:38:41.260 --> 01:38:46.020 This same pastor indulged in the molesting of ten- and twelve-year-old girls. 01:38:46.820 --> 01:38:52.500 He named the rector of a seminary who indulged in homosexual relations with 01:38:52.500 --> 01:38:56.440 young students for the priesthood over a period of thirty years. 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:03.460 A dozen boys at a time were his favorites, and he promised them good parishes if they 01:39:03.460 --> 01:39:04.360 succumbed to him. 01:39:05.260 --> 01:39:10.080 Many of them continued their homosexuality after their ordination to the priesthood. 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:16.300 One of his protégés fell afoul of the law when he ruptured the rectums of some young 01:39:16.300 --> 01:39:17.940 boys in his parish. 01:39:19.300 --> 01:39:25.200 My own judgment on this matter is that due to the celibate life and stringent 01:39:25.200 --> 01:39:30.800 regulations, it is a wonder that there are not more cases like these I have quoted. 01:39:31.820 --> 01:39:36.460 Another ex-priest insists that, judging by his seventeen years of 01:39:36.460 --> 01:39:42.220 experience in the secular priesthood, the violations of chastity are far more 01:39:42.220 --> 01:39:43.500 flagrant than that. 01:39:44.120 --> 01:39:47.640 He has been married and out of the priesthood now for some twenty years. 01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:53.120 During his clerical years in the priesthood, his work took him routinely 01:39:53.120 --> 01:39:55.280 through the north-central part of the country. 01:39:56.240 --> 01:40:02.780 Over a period of years, he knew personally and intimately some five hundred Catholic 01:40:02.780 --> 01:40:03.680 priests. 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:08.640 Among them were two cardinals, several archbishops and bishops, 01:40:09.180 --> 01:40:13.340 many monsignori, teachers, pastors, and ordinary priests. 01:40:14.100 --> 01:40:21.360 Of these five hundred, all but fifteen priests flagrantly violated their vow of 01:40:21.360 --> 01:40:21.880 chastity. 01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:29.500 That average of violations would certainly make these American priests as gross as 01:40:29.500 --> 01:40:34.060 their clerical ancestors or their colleagues in South America. 01:40:34.060 --> 01:40:38.040 Who is responsible for all these transgressions? 01:40:39.080 --> 01:40:44.080 The villains in the peace are not the priests themselves, for priests are not 01:40:44.080 --> 01:40:47.540 disembodied angels devoid of human instincts. 01:40:47.540 --> 01:40:53.940 The ceremony of ordination to the Roman Catholic priesthood does not include any 01:40:53.940 --> 01:40:56.200 divine desexing miracle. 01:40:57.040 --> 01:40:58.800 The priests remain human. 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:05.240 The responsibility and the monstrous guilt for all these lives of both the men and 01:41:05.240 --> 01:41:11.540 the women that are ruined rests squarely upon the shoulders of Pope John XXIII and 01:41:11.540 --> 01:41:15.240 his fawning puppets, the cardinals and the rest of the hierarchy. 01:41:16.340 --> 01:41:22.520 Merely for the sake of power and money, they hold these thousands of priests and 01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:27.960 nuns as slaves, chained by an unnatural sexual code. 01:41:29.480 --> 01:41:33.600 Mr. McLaughlin voices his opinion on birth control. 01:41:33.600 --> 01:41:44.140 The practice of birth control is undoubtedly the most widely spread sin of 01:41:44.140 --> 01:41:45.680 good Roman Catholics. 01:41:46.440 --> 01:41:52.560 It is practiced, as I well knew from my own experience in 15 years in the 01:41:52.560 --> 01:42:00.000 confessional, by the majority of Roman Catholics of childbearing age. 01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:08.680 My own beliefs regarding birth control became heretical some years before my 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:11.420 actual break with the church and the priesthood. 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:17.880 I believed in birth control and instructed our medical interns from the day our 01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:24.340 hospital opened in 1944 to give all the contraceptive advice necessary to the 01:42:24.340 --> 01:42:30.260 numerous mothers who crowded our clinics, spawning more offspring than they could 01:42:30.260 --> 01:42:30.800 feed. 01:42:31.700 --> 01:42:38.220 Our experience had shown that too large a percentage of unplanned waifs would be 01:42:38.220 --> 01:42:44.180 back later on in our pediatric department, suffering from malnutrition, diarrhea, 01:42:44.980 --> 01:42:46.260 and simple neglect. 01:42:47.580 --> 01:42:52.280 The next record, part six, is unbelievable, but true. 01:42:58.470 --> 01:43:03.930 We now hear about things psychiatric, along with related side effects. 01:43:04.970 --> 01:43:10.050 Many psychiatrists, especially Catholics, had written to me when I was collecting 01:43:10.050 --> 01:43:15.590 material for my book Crime and Immorality in the Catholic Church, that the teachings 01:43:15.590 --> 01:43:21.930 of Catholicism could not cause or aggravate mental illness because religion 01:43:21.930 --> 01:43:26.890 offers the comfort, solace, and rituals that prevent insanity. 01:43:26.890 --> 01:43:31.550 Certainly, among them at least, God's grace should be sufficient. 01:43:32.490 --> 01:43:37.850 There should not be the manic depressives, the split personalities, the anxiety 01:43:37.850 --> 01:43:43.190 neuroses that scourge those who have no divine mental or moral anchors. 01:43:44.410 --> 01:43:49.370 And in their lives, abounding with grace and the blessings of the sacraments and 01:43:49.370 --> 01:43:54.110 the sacramentals, women should be protected by God from giving birth to 01:43:54.110 --> 01:43:57.270 idiots, mental defectives, and monstrosities. 01:43:57.790 --> 01:43:59.210 The facts were otherwise. 01:43:59.830 --> 01:44:05.170 The indictment of Catholicism and its system would be strong enough if the 01:44:05.170 --> 01:44:09.530 percentage of Catholics in the various states and in mental hospitals were equal. 01:44:10.350 --> 01:44:14.870 That would prove that confession, the mass, the other sacraments, 01:44:15.110 --> 01:44:18.390 and the solicited aid of Mary were merely useless. 01:44:19.270 --> 01:44:24.630 However, the figures themselves condemn Catholicism as a threat to mental health. 01:44:24.630 --> 01:44:27.610 By their fruits ye shall know them. 01:44:28.030 --> 01:44:32.090 The state hospitals include all categories of the mental ill. 01:44:32.890 --> 01:44:36.990 Many of these types could in no way result from a religious background. 01:44:37.830 --> 01:44:43.710 Some, however, the psychiatrists insisted, might well be caused by the mental strain 01:44:43.710 --> 01:44:49.770 of religious indoctrination or the continuance of childbirth because of 01:44:49.770 --> 01:44:54.610 church law after the couple had one or more mentally deficient children. 01:44:55.750 --> 01:45:02.070 Catholics who go to prison are those, in my opinion, who take their moral code 01:45:02.070 --> 01:45:02.690 too lightly. 01:45:03.650 --> 01:45:08.410 Those who go to the insane asylums are those who take it too seriously. 01:45:09.430 --> 01:45:14.730 Married Catholic women caught between the prohibition of birth control and the 01:45:14.730 --> 01:45:19.910 realization that an uncontrolled series of pregnancies can wreck their health, 01:45:20.550 --> 01:45:23.750 bankrupt their families, and alienate their husbands. 01:45:24.650 --> 01:45:30.130 Incidentally, the hierarchy constantly emphasizes the double financial burden 01:45:30.130 --> 01:45:31.550 that Catholics are bearing. 01:45:32.290 --> 01:45:36.690 They support their own schools, and they also pay taxes for public schools 01:45:36.690 --> 01:45:37.810 that they don't use. 01:45:38.670 --> 01:45:44.370 Protestants and Jews can certainly make a similar complaint about prisons and insane 01:45:44.370 --> 01:45:44.930 asylums. 01:45:45.430 --> 01:45:50.130 They are not only supporting their own in these institutions, but also the great 01:45:50.130 --> 01:45:51.990 excess of Roman Catholics. 01:45:53.570 --> 01:45:57.550 Mr. McLaughlin lays bare some skullduggery that is going on. 01:45:58.110 --> 01:45:58.730 Let's listen. 01:45:59.730 --> 01:46:05.230 People, especially some conservative Protestant ministers and some Jewish 01:46:05.230 --> 01:46:12.190 rabbis, often condemn me as an agitator when I state simply that the Vatican would 01:46:12.190 --> 01:46:17.170 make peace with the Kremlin if it should be advantageous to the Catholic hierarchy. 01:46:17.170 --> 01:46:23.530 This should be one of the most shocking facts facing Americans, especially those 01:46:23.530 --> 01:46:26.930 who are so conscious now of the growth of communism. 01:46:27.650 --> 01:46:31.530 I could briefly outline the answer in these points. 01:46:32.150 --> 01:46:39.110 Number one, no form of government matters to the Catholic Church so long as it is 01:46:39.110 --> 01:46:40.430 favorable to the Church. 01:46:40.430 --> 01:46:47.550 Number two, no religion of any government in the world matters to the Church so long 01:46:47.550 --> 01:46:49.310 as it is favorable to the Vatican. 01:46:50.090 --> 01:46:54.750 Number three, the Church prefers a dictator state. 01:46:55.430 --> 01:47:00.530 It has preferred such a state through history as it is much easier to control. 01:47:01.470 --> 01:47:06.870 Number four, the Vatican has already made working agreements with communist 01:47:06.870 --> 01:47:07.470 countries. 01:47:07.470 --> 01:47:15.330 Number five, the methods and teaching of communism and Catholicism, except for the 01:47:15.330 --> 01:47:18.210 belief in God, are practically identical. 01:47:19.090 --> 01:47:25.850 Number six, every country in Western Europe and America that has gone communist 01:47:25.850 --> 01:47:29.550 in recent years has been a Roman Catholic country. 01:47:29.550 --> 01:47:36.510 Number seven, the countries that are now in danger of becoming communistic in Latin 01:47:36.510 --> 01:47:39.250 America are Roman Catholic countries. 01:47:39.710 --> 01:47:44.610 Now, to give a little more detail on these points, I would like to add this. 01:47:45.990 --> 01:47:48.570 No religion of a government matters. 01:47:49.410 --> 01:47:55.190 For many decades after the American Revolutionary War, the Vatican and the 01:47:55.190 --> 01:48:00.810 Catholic leaders condemned the American government as materialistic, and some said 01:48:00.810 --> 01:48:03.910 even godless, because it was Protestant. 01:48:04.630 --> 01:48:10.490 Yet, it worked with that government to its own ends because the American Bill of 01:48:10.490 --> 01:48:14.930 Rights gave it more freedom than it had anywhere else in the world. 01:48:15.730 --> 01:48:18.530 Another point that I made was this. 01:48:19.030 --> 01:48:21.930 The Church prefers a dictator state. 01:48:22.850 --> 01:48:28.730 This is simply another way of stating the old slogan about the divine right of 01:48:28.730 --> 01:48:32.470 kings, which the hierarchy has held to for centuries. 01:48:33.410 --> 01:48:38.050 The classical example, of course, in Catholic history, was the reign of 01:48:38.050 --> 01:48:39.670 Charlemagne in the 9th century. 01:48:39.670 --> 01:48:44.290 The Pope crowned the king, and the king protected the Pope. 01:48:44.950 --> 01:48:51.730 This is the same idea as the theory of the two swords, the sword of civil power and 01:48:51.730 --> 01:48:54.810 the sword of the spiritual power, or the Church. 01:48:55.450 --> 01:49:00.390 But always, the sword of the king was subject to the sword of the Pope. 01:49:01.050 --> 01:49:08.030 The tiara, or the triple crown of the Pope, also shows dominion over the entire 01:49:08.030 --> 01:49:11.010 world, and this conveys the same concept. 01:49:11.690 --> 01:49:17.130 It is enough in proving this point to simply consider the dictators of our own 01:49:17.130 --> 01:49:22.810 time that the Vatican has had close working relationship with, or still does, 01:49:23.090 --> 01:49:24.910 if those dictators still exist. 01:49:24.910 --> 01:49:31.410 We have had Mussolini in Italy, Hitler in Germany, Perón in Argentina, 01:49:32.010 --> 01:49:40.410 Franco in Spain, Salazar in Portugal, Batista in Cuba, Trujillo in the Dominican 01:49:40.410 --> 01:49:46.270 Republic, and even Castro in Cuba, until he turned against the Church. 01:49:47.430 --> 01:49:52.910 I have stated that the methods and teachings of the Church and the Communist 01:49:52.910 --> 01:49:54.870 program are identical. 01:49:55.730 --> 01:49:59.670 It would take too long to go into detail in this, but a few will suffice. 01:50:00.310 --> 01:50:07.290 The torture and murder of those who disagree with Communism and Catholicism 01:50:07.290 --> 01:50:09.930 have been treated exactly in the same way. 01:50:09.930 --> 01:50:17.430 Siberia and the Roman Catholic Inquisition differed only in time and in geography. 01:50:18.230 --> 01:50:24.830 We have the same identical suppression of freedom and censorship in Communism that 01:50:24.830 --> 01:50:26.210 we have in Catholicism. 01:50:26.790 --> 01:50:33.650 The Communist control of freedom is the same in reading and in books as the index 01:50:33.650 --> 01:50:37.330 of forbidden books in the Catholic Church and in canon law. 01:50:37.330 --> 01:50:43.550 This is still in existence at the present time and practice wherever the Church is 01:50:43.550 --> 01:50:45.410 powerful enough to enforce it. 01:50:46.170 --> 01:50:51.490 The control of newspapers, magazines, books, motion pictures, radio, 01:50:51.790 --> 01:50:58.030 and television are absolutely the same whether that control is exercised by the 01:50:58.030 --> 01:51:02.850 leaders in Moscow or by the National Catholic Welfare Conference in Washington. 01:51:03.450 --> 01:51:09.130 One of the strongest examples of all in the similarity of Catholicism and 01:51:09.130 --> 01:51:16.430 Communism is the fact that now, in our day, in order to keep Latin America 01:51:16.430 --> 01:51:20.910 from falling into the hands of the Castro Communists and the Khrushchev Communists, 01:51:21.370 --> 01:51:28.130 the Roman Catholic bishops of South America are advocating a Catholic form of 01:51:28.130 --> 01:51:28.790 Communism. 01:51:29.790 --> 01:51:35.230 They know and admit that they are on the verge of losing South America. 01:51:35.890 --> 01:51:40.450 And if they lose South America to the Catholic Church, they will lose fully 01:51:40.450 --> 01:51:45.250 one-third of the entire Roman Catholic population of the world. 01:51:46.170 --> 01:51:50.870 In the first place, the bishops have embarked on a program of appeasing the 01:51:50.870 --> 01:51:56.010 Latin American people by slurring the United States whenever they can, 01:51:56.010 --> 01:51:58.810 even while they are still taking our money. 01:51:59.630 --> 01:52:00.670 Here is an example. 01:52:01.750 --> 01:52:07.390 The Most Reverend Bernardo Pinera, the Bishop of Temuco in Chile, 01:52:07.930 --> 01:52:10.810 made this statement on a tour towards Canada. 01:52:11.330 --> 01:52:12.570 And these are his words. 01:52:13.350 --> 01:52:18.210 Communists fight with tenacity and determination for and with the working 01:52:18.210 --> 01:52:19.750 people to better their lot. 01:52:20.670 --> 01:52:26.630 If bishops or priests forthrightly condemn the Communists, who seemingly are trying 01:52:26.630 --> 01:52:32.150 to help the poor, the workers will distrust the clergymen and bracket them 01:52:32.150 --> 01:52:37.810 with the rich classes and the impersonal rich countries like the United States. 01:52:39.010 --> 01:52:45.550 Telling the worker, this Catholic paper goes on, that Communism deprives him of 01:52:45.550 --> 01:52:50.550 the right to own private property is no threat to a man who owns nothing, 01:52:51.470 --> 01:52:56.250 and never has and never hopes to own anything under conditions now existing. 01:52:57.110 --> 01:53:03.050 Likewise, talking of freedom or slogans like Better Dead Than Red make no 01:53:03.050 --> 01:53:06.470 impression on a starving and hopeless people. 01:53:06.470 --> 01:53:15.510 The Catholic hierarchy of Latin America has gone beyond this saying and is now 01:53:15.510 --> 01:53:21.510 even advocating a Catholic form of Communism to counteract or to avoid 01:53:21.510 --> 01:53:24.450 Russian or Castro Communism. 01:53:24.910 --> 01:53:30.110 Here is a program of some of the bishops of South America. 01:53:30.590 --> 01:53:34.490 Number one, the nationalization of big business. 01:53:34.490 --> 01:53:39.690 Number two, the encouragement of production cooperatives. 01:53:40.390 --> 01:53:43.890 Number three, high inheritance taxes. 01:53:44.950 --> 01:53:48.900 Number four, business reform to coordinate production. 01:53:50.130 --> 01:53:55.710 Number five, the expropriation and redistribution of private property. 01:53:56.630 --> 01:54:01.190 Now these are the slogans not of Castro or of Khrushchev. 01:54:01.190 --> 01:54:07.690 This is the program enunciated by Archbishop Leonardo Rodriguez Bayan, 01:54:08.210 --> 01:54:13.970 the Archbishop of Arequipa, Peru, in a pastoral letter which went out 01:54:13.970 --> 01:54:20.310 recently to all of Peru's Catholics in connection with Peru's Catholic Social 01:54:20.310 --> 01:54:20.910 Week. 01:54:22.050 --> 01:54:25.270 We should stop and consider what this means. 01:54:25.270 --> 01:54:33.010 If this program enunciated by this Bishop of Peru were put into effect, every 01:54:33.010 --> 01:54:39.410 American investor in every American corporation that does business in Latin 01:54:39.410 --> 01:54:45.590 America would be coming under the same ruthless power that has stolen American 01:54:45.590 --> 01:54:51.330 investments in Cuba and in other countries that have come under Communistic or 01:54:51.330 --> 01:54:53.130 Socialistic control. 01:54:54.470 --> 01:54:59.270 This is not the program merely of this Bishop of Peru. 01:54:59.770 --> 01:55:06.110 It is the same program mentioned by Archbishop Luis Chavez and Gonzalez of San 01:55:06.110 --> 01:55:09.030 Salvador, Archbishop Carlos H. 01:55:09.250 --> 01:55:12.290 Rodriguez of San Jose in Costa Rica. 01:55:12.910 --> 01:55:16.930 This is the same program that was enunciated by all of the Bishops of 01:55:16.930 --> 01:55:22.610 Ecuador and by Cardinal de la Torre, the Archbishop of Quito. 01:55:22.610 --> 01:55:29.090 It is the program gradually being adopted by all of the Latin American Bishops. 01:55:29.630 --> 01:55:37.790 The Latin American authorities themselves feel that it may be too late to save Latin 01:55:37.790 --> 01:55:45.550 America for the Catholic Church because in their pastoral letters and in their 01:55:45.550 --> 01:55:52.830 sermons, they commonly reiterate the phrase, Act now before it is too late. 01:55:54.110 --> 01:55:59.050 It is a fact that in all Latin America, because of the Catholic Church, 01:55:59.710 --> 01:56:04.450 illiteracy is the highest that it is any place in the world. 01:56:05.490 --> 01:56:07.570 The people cannot read and write. 01:56:08.270 --> 01:56:12.150 They are subject to all of the slogans of Communism. 01:56:12.150 --> 01:56:18.550 And what the Catholic Bishops know is that they too, just like the people in other 01:56:18.550 --> 01:56:22.950 countries that have fallen under dictatorships, may fall for the slogan 01:56:22.950 --> 01:56:29.650 that we have heard for so many years, Arise ye workers, all you have to lose is 01:56:29.650 --> 01:56:30.510 your chains. 01:56:31.490 --> 01:56:35.790 The next expose is about an unusual dehydrating factory. 01:56:36.910 --> 01:56:43.450 When one analyzes the experience of ex-priests, including myself, one sees a 01:56:43.450 --> 01:56:49.590 close relationship between the intersexual conflicts due to the law of celibacy and 01:56:49.590 --> 01:56:52.670 the excessive alcoholism among Catholic clergymen. 01:56:53.730 --> 01:56:58.270 Although priests would not be compared as drinkers to sailors on shore leave, 01:56:58.810 --> 01:57:02.810 they certainly imbibe far more than the ministers of other denominations. 01:57:03.530 --> 01:57:08.850 I can well remember the old missionary from the Yuma Indian Mission saying as he 01:57:08.850 --> 01:57:14.590 fondled his jug of wine, The Pope won't let me have a wife, so I have married this 01:57:14.590 --> 01:57:14.930 bottle. 01:57:15.750 --> 01:57:20.230 There is an extremely common saying in clerical circles, as another bottle is 01:57:20.230 --> 01:57:24.150 emptied, Its soul is saved, it died with the priest. 01:57:25.070 --> 01:57:30.690 Any sort of occasion was excuse enough for an extra supply of liquor in order that 01:57:30.690 --> 01:57:33.690 the visiting clergy might be shown the proper hospitality. 01:57:34.690 --> 01:57:39.070 In fact, I used to function as bartender for many of these clerical cocktail 01:57:39.070 --> 01:57:45.310 parties, years before I was distinguished with an honorary lifetime membership in 01:57:45.310 --> 01:57:50.270 the Hotel and Restaurant Employees and Bartenders Union Local 631. 01:57:51.350 --> 01:57:56.150 I do not want to give the impression that I have adopted a sneering, disparaging 01:57:56.150 --> 01:57:59.370 attitude towards the drinking habits of priests. 01:58:00.110 --> 01:58:04.110 I am merely pointing out the almost universal prevalence of the custom. 01:58:04.950 --> 01:58:10.250 I certainly did my share to help the Christian brothers, the Jesuits and the 01:58:10.250 --> 01:58:14.130 Benedictine monks in their church-related liquor industries. 01:58:14.890 --> 01:58:19.730 It took quite a while after leaving the priesthood for me to find that I no longer 01:58:19.730 --> 01:58:21.630 had anything to escape from. 01:58:22.570 --> 01:58:27.650 There are institutions in the United States that are devoted to the treatment 01:58:27.650 --> 01:58:29.570 of alcoholism among priests. 01:58:30.230 --> 01:58:37.330 The most famous of these is Guest House at Lake Orion, Michigan, some 35 miles from 01:58:37.330 --> 01:58:37.850 Detroit. 01:58:39.190 --> 01:58:44.190 I have a letter from its director, Austin Ripley, and this is what he had 01:58:44.190 --> 01:58:44.590 said. 01:58:45.170 --> 01:58:51.370 We are dedicated to helping sick alcoholic priests to complete recovery from their 01:58:51.370 --> 01:58:57.210 devastating malignant addiction and to the acquisition of permanent happy and 01:58:57.210 --> 01:58:58.490 effective sobriety. 01:58:59.930 --> 01:59:04.570 Unhappily, we have a long waiting list, so I am afraid that we would not be able 01:59:04.570 --> 01:59:06.990 to accept your friend for several months. 01:59:07.610 --> 01:59:12.570 But if he needs treatment and therapy now, certainly he will need them then. 01:59:13.230 --> 01:59:18.090 So in his interests exclusively, I suggest that you have us put his name on 01:59:18.090 --> 01:59:18.950 our waiting list. 01:59:19.790 --> 01:59:23.070 Otherwise, it may be six months before we can accept him. 01:59:23.070 --> 01:59:28.670 The need for a second guest house for the treatment of priests is of great urgency. 01:59:29.510 --> 01:59:34.370 But as yet, we have been unsuccessful in arousing sufficient interest to acquire 01:59:34.370 --> 01:59:40.130 property elsewhere or the funds with which to establish a second treatment facility. 01:59:41.230 --> 01:59:43.970 Our rate is $600 per month. 01:59:44.370 --> 01:59:49.370 The rate of $600 a month, incidentally, does not cover our cost of treatment. 01:59:49.370 --> 01:59:55.230 Indeed, there is a large deficit each month for each priest treated at guest 01:59:55.230 --> 01:59:55.570 house. 01:59:56.650 --> 02:00:00.330 This deficit we try to obtain through charitable appeals. 02:00:01.390 --> 02:00:07.330 One of the several brochures which Mr. Ripley sent me quotes testimonials from 02:00:07.330 --> 02:00:12.550 priests and explains the sympathetic program and need for financial assistance 02:00:12.550 --> 02:00:18.190 for priests whose bishop or family cannot or will not foot the bill. 02:00:18.190 --> 02:00:24.450 The cover is entitled, Guest House Saved My Life, My Very Priesthood. 02:00:25.130 --> 02:00:27.510 And the text goes on with these words. 02:00:28.390 --> 02:00:33.710 A clinical psychological examination followed by psychiatric evaluation is 02:00:33.710 --> 02:00:35.670 given each priest patient. 02:00:36.490 --> 02:00:41.330 These are administered by Catholics of deep understanding and of the highest 02:00:41.330 --> 02:00:42.370 professional rating. 02:00:43.220 --> 02:00:47.650 The sick priesthood of Christ is entitled to the best treatment the world can 02:00:47.650 --> 02:00:48.090 provide. 02:00:48.730 --> 02:00:51.450 At guest house, each patient gets it. 02:00:52.130 --> 02:00:56.710 With your charity, we can help many such sick, despairing priests. 02:00:57.830 --> 02:01:00.110 Without it, guest house cannot continue. 02:01:01.150 --> 02:01:03.090 This is a hidden charity. 02:01:03.830 --> 02:01:07.630 If we could broadcast appeals, we would have no financial problems. 02:01:08.350 --> 02:01:09.090 We cannot. 02:01:09.670 --> 02:01:12.310 So we come to you begging, pleading. 02:01:13.150 --> 02:01:17.050 Where else can you get as rich a return for your charity dollar? 02:01:17.730 --> 02:01:22.650 Here it can purchase the life, perhaps even the immortal soul of a 02:01:22.650 --> 02:01:23.010 priest. 02:01:23.810 --> 02:01:27.430 Surely you will not refuse God's very own in their need. 02:01:28.030 --> 02:01:31.250 We believe the sick priest deserves the best treatment. 02:01:31.990 --> 02:01:33.070 Here he gets it. 02:01:33.070 --> 02:01:39.730 Please, for the love of God, help us to continue guest house, whose simple concept 02:01:39.730 --> 02:01:44.390 is based on the supreme dignity of Christ's eternal priesthood. 02:01:45.290 --> 02:01:51.330 The tragedy of all this is that there should be any need for guest house at all. 02:01:52.410 --> 02:01:55.990 Why are so many Roman Catholic priests alcoholics? 02:01:56.890 --> 02:02:02.550 What the cardinals and bishops might well spend their money on is a psychological 02:02:02.550 --> 02:02:05.390 study of why priests drink so much. 02:02:06.130 --> 02:02:11.610 What they are trying to forget and from what so many of them are attempting so 02:02:11.610 --> 02:02:13.130 desperately to escape. 02:02:13.840 --> 02:02:19.630 To the best of my knowledge, in the entire United States, there is not a single 02:02:19.630 --> 02:02:25.550 alcoholic rehabilitation sanitarium exclusively for Protestant ministers. 02:02:25.810 --> 02:02:32.550 Either of a single denomination or an interdenominational center sponsored by 02:02:32.550 --> 02:02:39.390 the National Council of Churches or by any other of the national Protestant groups in 02:02:39.390 --> 02:02:39.870 America. 02:02:39.870 --> 02:02:45.430 Could it be because they do not need such an institution? 02:02:47.190 --> 02:02:52.590 It is my contention and my sincere conviction from my experience in the 02:02:52.590 --> 02:02:57.410 Catholic educational system, from my life of 15 years in the priesthood, 02:02:57.410 --> 02:03:03.490 and 13 years of constant observation and intense study since leaving the church, 02:03:04.050 --> 02:03:10.370 that the influence of the Roman Catholic Church on all civilization has been far 02:03:10.370 --> 02:03:12.810 more of evil than of good.