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Good morning.

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Welcome to Inquisition Update.

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My name's Tom Friess and I'll be your host
for the next hour.

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You're listening to First Amendment Radio
dot com.

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Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

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Now we're going to return immediately to
the book, A Woman Rides a Beast by Dave

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Hunt.

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Yesterday, at the end of the broadcast,
we concluded Chapter 10, and now we'll

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begin Chapter 11.

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And as all chapters in this book,
begins with some passages from Scripture.

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This one, Matthew Chapter 16, verse 16 and
18.

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Simon Peter answered and said,
Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living

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God.

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And I, Jesus, say also unto thee that thou
art Peter, Petros.

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And upon this rock, Petra, I will build my
church, and the gates of hell shall not

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prevail against it.

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This passage from John Chapter 21,
verse 15 through 17.

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Feed my lambs, feed my sheep, feed my
sheep.

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And from Vatican Council 2, quote,
After Peter's confession of faith,

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he, Christ, determined that on him he
would build his church.

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To him he promised the keys of the kingdom
of heaven.

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Unquote.

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Now, beginning the chapter, 11.

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Is entitled, Upon this rock?

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Question mark.

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Begins with a question.

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An infallible pope as Peter's successor?

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Who holds the keys to heaven?

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As vicar of Christ?

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Once the boast was that papal pomp and
powers were inherited from Constantine,

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not Christ.

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Today it is claimed that Christ's
statement to Peter, quoted on the facing

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page, made him the first pope.

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The rock on which the one true church was
built.

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And that all who have followed in that
office, no matter how violent or

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fraudulent their acquisition thereof,
nor how evil their deeds, have been his

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successors.

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The pope's authority today, and the Roman
Catholic religion over which he presides,

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stands or falls upon that assertion.

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The pope is the church.

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Without him, it cannot function and
wouldn't even exist.

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Hence the importance of pursuing this
subject even further.

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It matters little what Mr. or Mrs. Average
Roman Catholic thinks or does.

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But the doctrines and deeds of the
hierarchy, and primarily of the popes,

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make or break the Roman Catholic Church.

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That is where our focus must be.

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Not on the opinions of someone's Catholic
neighbor who says he doesn't believe half

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of what his church teaches.

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Which, by the way, then he shouldn't call
himself a Catholic in the first place.

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And why trust a church with one's eternal
salvation if it's not, quote, trustworthy

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in lesser matters?

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What about Christ's statement to Peter,
quote,

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Protestants argue that there is a play on
words in the key verse above.

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In Greek, Peter is Petros, a small stone.

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While rock is the Greek Petra,
a huge rock like Gibraltar.

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Such a huge Petra could only be Christ
himself.

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And the confession that Jesus is the
Christ, as Peter had just expressed it.

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Modern Catholic apologists respond that
Christ was likely speaking Aramaic.

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Which eliminates that play on words and
leaves Peter the rock upon which the

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church was built.

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That position, however, actually denies
one of the basic tenets of Roman

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Catholicism.

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The tridentine profession of faith.

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It has required all its clergy since the
days of Pope Pius IV of 1559 to 1565 to

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vow to interpret Holy Scripture only
according with the unanimous consent of

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the Fathers.

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So what was the testimony of the Church
Fathers?

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How did the so-called Church Fathers,
the leaders up to that time of Pope

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Gregory the Great, who died in 604 A.D.

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How did the Church Fathers interpret this
passage?

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It so happens that in this regard,
they are unanimously in agreement with the

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Protestant position.

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Not one of them interprets this passage as
Catholics are taught to understand it

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today.

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To be in agreement with the unanimous
teaching of the Fathers, a Roman Catholic

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would have to reject the dogma that Peter
was the first Pope.

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That he was infallible, and that he passed
his authority on to his successors.

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Devout Roman Catholic historian Von
Dollinger reminds us of the undeniable

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facts.

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Of all the Fathers who interpret these
passages in the Gospel, Matthew 16,

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verse 18, and John 21, verse 17,
not a single one of them applies them to

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the Roman bishops as Peter's successors.

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How many Fathers have bruised... excuse
me...

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How many Fathers have busied themselves
with these texts, yet not one of them,

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whose commentaries we possess,
Origen, Chrysostom, Hilary, Augustine,

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Cyril, Theodoret, and those whose
interpretations are collected in Catinas,

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has dropped the faintest hint that the
primacy of Rome is the consequence of the

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commission and promise to Peter.

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Not one of them has explained the rock or
foundation on which Christ would build his

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church as the office given to Peter to be
transmitted to his successors.

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But they understand by it either Christ
himself, or Peter's confession of faith in

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Christ, often both together.

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In other words, contrary to what the
average Roman Catholic has been taught by

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his church, the so-called Fathers of the
Roman Catholic Church stood unanimously

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against the current Roman Catholic
interpretation.

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And it is a devout Roman Catholic
authority on church history, one who loves

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his church, who points out these facts in
reference to Von Dollinger.

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Now, other Roman Catholic historians agree
with Von Dollinger.

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Peter De Rosa, also a devout Roman
Catholic, and by the way, a Jesuit,

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just as ably punctures the balloon of
papal supremacy and an unbroken line of

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succession back to Peter.

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Here's what Peter De Rosa says,
It may jolt Roman Catholics to hear that

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the great Fathers of the Church saw no
connection between it, that is,

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the statement made in Matthew 16,
verse 18, and the Pope.

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Not one of them applies, quote,
to anyone but Peter.

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One after another, they analyze it.

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Cyprian, Origen, Cyril, Hillary,
Jerome, Ambrose, and Augustine.

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They are not exactly Protestants.

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Not one of them calls the Bishop of Rome a
rock, or applies to him especially the

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promise of the keys.

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This is as staggering to Roman Catholics
as if they were to find no mention in the

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Fathers of the Holy Spirit, or the
resurrection of the dead.

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For the Fathers, it is Peter's faith,
or the Lord in whom Peter has faith,

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which is called the rock, not Peter.

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All the councils of the Church,
from Nicaea in the 4th century to

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Constance in the 15th, agree that Christ
himself is the only foundation of the

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Church, that is, the rock on which the
Church rests.

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Continuing with the quote, it says,
Not one of the Fathers speaks of a

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transference of power from Peter to those
who succeed him.

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There is no hint of an abiding Petrine
office.

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No hint of an office of Peter.

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There is no hint of the Papacy,
which is called the Petrine office.

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So the early Church did not look on Peter
as Bishop of Rome, nor therefore did it

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think that each Bishop of Rome succeeded
Peter.

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The Gospels did not create the Papacy.

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The Papacy, once in being, leaned for
support on the Gospels.

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And there isn't any.

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Unquote.

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So if Roman Catholics must believe what
the Church Fathers teach, they may not

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believe anything contrary to that which
came from the unanimous consent of the

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Fathers of the Church.

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They must concede.

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There is no Petrine office at all in the
Roman Catholic Church.

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Peter was not given any special authority,
nor could he pass on this supposed

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authority to anyone else.

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A successor, as it were.

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There is no such thing as the Pope.

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There is no such thing as papal
infallibility.

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And the whole world is deceived.

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Rome contradicts herself.

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And why is that?

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Well, because she simply made the whole
thing up.

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The Papacy has created itself.

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Or rather, more correctly, the Dragon gave
him his seat in power and great authority.

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And it's all by deception.

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Because Satan is the master deceiver.

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The father of lies.

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He was a liar in the beginning,
and he's a liar today.

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Now, continuing, he says that the Popes
for centuries relied upon fraudulent

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documents, such as we've already
discussed, the donation of Constantine and

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the false decretals, to justify their pomp
and their power, even after their exposure

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as deliberate counterfeits, betrays how
little these so-called vicars of Christ

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cared for the truth.

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It also tells us that in those days,
the Popes didn't rely for justification of

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the papal authority upon Matthew 16 verse
18, an alleged apostolic succession from

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Peter, or they would not have needed the
false documents to authenticate their

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position.

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Such an application of, quote,
thou art Peter, unquote, was invented much

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later.

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So who is the rock and the foundation of
the church?

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The truth of the matter does not depend
upon a disputable interpretation of a few

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verses, but upon the totality of
scripture.

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God himself is clearly described as the
unfailing rock of our salvation throughout

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the entire Old Testament.

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See Deuteronomy chapter 32 verse 3 and 4,
Psalms chapter 62 verse 1 and 2,

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and that's just for starters.

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In fact, the Bible declares that God is
the only rock.

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Quote, For who is God save the Lord?

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Or who is the rock save our God?

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Psalms chapter 18 verse 31.

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The New Testament makes it equally clear
that Jesus Christ is the rock upon which

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the church is built, and that he and he
alone, being God and one with the Father,

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is therefore the only rock.

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The rock upon which the wise man built his
house was not Peter, but Christ and his

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teachings.

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See Matthew chapter 7 verse 24 through 29.

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Peter himself points out that Christ is
the chief cornerstone upon which the

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church is built.

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See 1 Peter chapter 2 verse 6 through 8,
and quotes the Old Testament passage to

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that effect.

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Paul likewise calls Christ, quote,
the chief cornerstone, unquote,

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of the church, and declares that the
church is also, quote, built upon the

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foundation of all the prophets and the
apostles.

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See Ephesians chapter 2 verse 20.

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That statement clearly denies to Peter any
special position in the church's

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foundation.

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And here's another reference that Dave
Hunt doesn't include.

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The passage revealing that it is the rock,
the stone that is cut out of the mountain

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without hands, that strikes the image in
the feet.

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And the image is ground to powder and
blows away with the wind.

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That's all human government.

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Even the government of the Pope.

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Ground to powder when Christ returns and
it blows away with the wind.

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Christ is the only rock and foundation of
the church.

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And his apostles and disciples and
believers simply are little stones built

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upon that foundation.

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Rome has turned this all on its head,
twisting the scriptures to her own

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destruction.

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Now, under the subtitle, No Unique Promise
to Peter, Dave writes, When Christ gave

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Peter, quote, the keys to the kingdom of
heaven, unquote, see Matthew chapter 16

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verse 19, he explained what that meant.

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Quote, Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth
shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever

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thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed
in heaven.

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Unquote.

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That same promise was renewed to all the
disciples in Matthew chapter 18 verse 18.

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And it was in John chapter 20 verse 23
with the special application there to

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forgiveness of sins.

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Clearly, the keys of binding and loosing
and remitting or retaining sins were given

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to all, not just to Peter.

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Therefore, it is unwarranted to claim that
Peter had special power or authority over

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the other apostles.

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Such a concept cannot be found anywhere in
the New Testament, and was unknown even in

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the Roman Catholic Church until centuries
later.

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Peter was given the special privilege of
presenting the gospel first to the Jews,

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see Acts chapter 2 verse 14 through 41,
and then to the Gentiles, Acts chapter 10

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verse 34 through 48.

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But no special authority.

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Catholic apologists claim that Christ's
words to Peter in John 21, 15 through 17,

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feed my sheep, my sheep, gave him unique
authority.

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On the contrary, Peter himself applied
that command to all the elders in 1 Peter

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chapter 5 and verse 2, and so did Paul in
Acts chapter 20 verse 28.

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Again, the Roman Catholic historian Von
Dollinger informs us, quote, None of the

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ancient confessions of faith, no
catechism, none of the patristic writings

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composed for the instruction of the
people, contain a syllable about the Pope.

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Still less any hint that all certainty of
faith and doctrine depends upon the Pope.

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The fathers could the less recognize the
power of the keys, and the power of

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binding and loosing, any special
prerogative or lordship of the Roman

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bishop, inasmuch as, what is obvious to
anyone at first sight, they did not regard

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a power first given to Peter, and
afterwards conferred in precisely the same

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words on all the apostles, as anything
peculiar to him or hereditary in the line

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of Roman bishops.

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And they held the symbol of the keys as
meaning just the same as the figurative

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expression of binding and loosing.

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The power of the keys, or of binding and
loosing, was universally held to belong to

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the other bishops just as much as to the
bishop of Rome.

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Unquote.

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You see the papal foundation of the Roman
Catholic Church crumbling?

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That's right, it's built on shifting sand.

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And Rome is really shifting on her
foundations today.

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Maybe tomorrow on the broadcast I'll read
a recent article about the current Pope

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Francis I.

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And I'll show you just how unstable the
foundation of the Roman Catholic Church

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is.

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It's startling.

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Now, under the subtitle, Under the
subtitle, No Special Power to Peter,

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Dave says, The special authority which has
been claimed by the Roman Catholic Popes

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as Peter's alleged successors,
was never exercised by Peter.

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In his epistles, Peter exhorts equals.

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He does not command subordinates.

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Quote, The elders which are among you,
I exhort.

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I am also an elder.

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1 Peter chapter 5 verse 1.

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He offers as the basis for his writings,
no official or exalted ecclesiastical

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position or power.

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He simply declares himself, quote,
A witness of the sufferings of Christ.

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Unquote.

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See 1 Peter chapter 5 verse 1.

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Along with all the apostles, who were
eyewitnesses of his majesty.

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As quoted in 2 Peter chapter 1 verse 16.

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He makes no unique claim for himself,
but simply takes his place with the other

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apostles.

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The gatherings of the apostles and elders
at Jerusalem around 45 to 50 AD,

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described in Acts chapter 15 verse 4
through 29, was convened on Paul's

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initiative, not Peter's.

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It was not the first church council,
as some claim.

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There was no church hierarchy,
no delegates from afar, all present being

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merely residents of Jerusalem.

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Furthermore, it was James, and not Peter,
who seemed to take the leadership.

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While Peter made an important statement,
it was not doctrinal.

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It was mainly a summation of his
experience in first bringing the gospel to

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the Gentiles.

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James, however, drew upon the scriptures
and argued from a doctrinal point of view.

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Moreover, it was James who said,
wherefore my sentence is, unquote,

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or rather, wherefore my judgment is.

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It was James who was judging, not Peter.

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And it was his declaration that became the
basis of the official letter sent back to

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Antioch.

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There's no evidence that Peter intimidated
others, but James intimidated him,

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if nothing else.

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Fear of James and his influence and
leadership caused Peter to revert to the

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Jewish traditional separation from
Gentiles.

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As a result, Paul, who wrote far more of
the New Testament than Peter, and whose

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ministry was obviously much broader,
publicly rebuked Peter for his error.

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See Galatians 2, verses 11-14.

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Certainly, Peter neither acted like a
pope, nor was so treated by the others.

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It just simply does not exist.

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There's no support for the papacy in the
scriptures.

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Now, who were the apostles' true
successors?

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Christ told the apostles to make disciples
through preaching the gospel.

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He added that each person who believed the
gospel was to be taught to obey everything

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that he had taught the original twelve.

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Quote, Teach them, that is the disciples
you make through the gospel, to observe

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all things whatsoever I have commanded
you.

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Matthew chapter 28, verse 20.

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This statement can't be applied
exclusively to a leadership hierarchy.

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All of those who became Christ's disciples
through the preaching of the original

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disciples were expected to obey everything
Christ had commanded the twelve.

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And in order to do all that the twelve
were commanded to do, every ordinary

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disciple must have the same authority and
power from Christ as did the apostles.

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No special privilege for Peter.

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No special power for Peter.

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No succession of Peter.

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There's simply no biblical authority for
the papacy, or its power and authority,

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or its successors, or its laws,
or anything else.

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It is an institution devised by Satan to
destroy this creation.

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We'll continue where we left off before
the break.

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He says All of those who became Christ's
disciples through the preaching of the

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original disciples were expected to obey
everything Christ had commanded the

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twelve.

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And in order to do all that the twelve
were commanded to do, every ordinary

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disciple must have the same authority and
power from Christ as did the apostles.

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And that's Protestantism.

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And do you know what the popes have said
about Protestantism?

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All the Protestants are deluded.

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They think themselves to be their own
popes.

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That each one of them has become their own
popes.

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No, that's not true.

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We're not our own popes.

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We are simply disciples of Christ and we
obey His commands.

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We have whatever power and authority
Christ gave to us.

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We exercise that power and authority in
our lives.

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And the pope is a fraud.

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We are not popes.

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There's no such thing as a pope.

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We are the disciples of Christ.

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It is the papacy who is in error.

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It is the dragon who gave him his seat and
power and great authority that is in

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error.

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Now whatever commands and empowerment the
apostles received from Christ were passed

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on to all who believed the gospel.

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Their own disciples who in turn passed on
this command to their converts and so on

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down to the present time.

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Obviously then, not some special class of
bishops, archbishops, cardinals,

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popes, or magisterium, but all Christians
are the successors of the apostles.

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The history of the early church given in
the New Testament bears out the above.

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The apostles did what Christ commanded
them to do.

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They made disciples by the thousands and
passed on to them all of Christ's

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commands.

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And Christ himself from heaven empowered
these new disciples to carry on this great

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commission.

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Christians multiplied and churches were
established throughout the Roman Empire.

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There were no cathedrals.

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The local churches met in homes.

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Leadership was by a group of godly elders
who were older and more mature in the

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faith and who lived exemplary lives.

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There was no hierarchy locally or over
wider territory which had to be obeyed

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because of title or office.

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There was no such thing.

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There was no select class of priests who
had special authority to act as

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intermediaries between God and the people.

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Such had been the Jewish priesthood which
was a shadow of things to come.

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And it did come, didn't it?

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So, why any more priesthood?

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See Hebrews chapter 7 verse 11 through 28
and chapter 10 verse 1 through 22.

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Such had been the Jewish priesthood which
was a shadow of things to come and became

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terribly corrupt only to be done away with
at the cross.

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Every believer was encouraged to pray and
prophesy in the church gatherings.

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Paul made that very clear.

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Quote, When ye come together, that is as a
church, every one of you hath a psalm,

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hath a doctrine, hath a tongue,
hath a revelation, hath an interpretation.

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Let all things be done to edifying.

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If any man speak in an unknown tongue,
let it be by two or at the most by three,

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and that by course, that is one at a time,
and let one interpret.

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Let the prophet speak two or three,
and let the others, those who are

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listening, judge.

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If anything be revealed to another that
sitteth by, let the first hold his peace,

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so that the other can speak.

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For ye may all prophesy one by one,
that all may learn, and all may be

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comforted.

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Wherefore, brethren, covet, that is
earnestly desire, to prophecy,

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and forbid not to speak with tongues.

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Let all things be done decently and in
order.

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1 Corinthians chapter 14, verse 26 through
40.

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There is the power that each of Christ's
disciples has.

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But the papacy claims no.

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That he is the only one who has power.

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There was no elite class.

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There was no such thing as the clergy
class.

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I'm sorry, Mr. True News.

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None of Christ's promises to the apostles
were only for them, or for some elite

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class.

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For example, quote, If two of you shall
agree on earth as touching anything that

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they shall ask, it shall be done of them
by the Father, which is in heaven.

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Matthew chapter 18, verse 19.

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Quote, Whatsoever you shall ask in my
name, that will I do.

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John chapter 14, verse 13 and yet again,
quote, Whatsoever you shall ask the Father

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in my name, he will give it you.

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John chapter 16, verse 23.

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All Christians pray in Christ's name,
yet this promise was originally given to

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the inner circle of twelve.

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All Catholics take the bread and the wine
at mass, yet it was to the twelve that

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Christ said, quote, This do in remembrance
of me.

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Unquote.

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Luke chapter 22, verse 19.

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Now, right here, I won't take issue
because Dave Hunt's trying to make a

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point.

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But, Catholics do not take both the bread
and the wine at mass.

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They are given the bread and denied the
wine.

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That is a contention between Roman
Catholics and Protestants to this day.

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And, I'm just going to leave it alone.

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But, it is an error to say that the bread
and wine is given at the mass.

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Now, it is clear that everything Christ
stated to his inner circle of disciples

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applied to their converts, and to all
Christians today.

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Does that mean that if two ordinary
Christians agree on something,

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it will be given to them?

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Or, whatever an ordinary Christian asks
the Father in Christ's name will be given?

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Yes.

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Then, why isn't every prayer answered?

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They all are.

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But, for some reason, the answer is no.

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For others, later.

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Christ's name is not a magic formula
which, if added to a prayer, assures an

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automatic answer in the affirmative.

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To ask in his name means to ask as he
would ask.

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For his goals, for his glory, not for our
own.

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On this point, the church has badly
deceived sincere Roman Catholics.

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Every prayer a Roman Catholic priest asks
is not automatically answered any more

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than those of ordinary Catholics or
Protestant ministers or laypersons,

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for that matter.

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That is obvious.

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Yet, it is claimed that a member of the
Roman Catholic clergy has a special power

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so that whatsoever he pronounces in
Christ's name, whether binding or loosing

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or forgiving sins, automatically occurs.

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Not so.

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It is dishonest, it is corrupt to say that
loosing from sin, which can't be verified,

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happens each time a Roman Catholic priest
pronounces it.

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When loosing from a disease or a debt,
which can be verified, rarely happens when

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pronounced.

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The implication is clear.

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Whether it is obtaining an answer to
prayer from the Father in the name of

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Christ, or obtaining some blessing that
two or more Christians agree upon,

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or binding or loosing or forgiving sins,
it does not occur automatically by the

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mere expression of a formula, but is only
done by Christ working through chosen

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vessels, when, where, and as He pleases.

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None of these promises work automatically
at the sole discretion of Peter or any of

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the other apostles.

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Nor do they attach automatically to a
member of the Roman Catholic Church or any

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other religious hierarchy.

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Such false dogmas have placed those who
believe them under the power of Rome,

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causing them to look to a priest for that
which is the inheritance of every true

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disciple of Christ.

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Now under the subtitle, Past Tyranny and
the Magisterium Today, Dave Hunt says,

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the great apostle Paul wrote that,
in so far as civil rulers do not command

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that which is against God's will,
every Christian, including the apostles

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themselves, is to obey those rulers.

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See Romans chapter 13 verse 1 through 7.

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Now let me clarify this.

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Let me emphasize something Dave says here.

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The great apostle Paul wrote in Romans 13
verse 1 through 7.

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You've heard so much talk about Romans
chapter 13, commanding us upon pain of sin

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to obey the civil authorities.

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Let me ask you before I even go any
further.

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Should God's people in Germany have obeyed
Adolf Hitler?

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Adolf Hitler was the civil power,
was he not?

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The duly elected chancellor of Germany?

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Look what the world suffered because the
otherwise godly people obeyed Adolf

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Hitler.

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And I won't belabor the point,
but you could name hundreds of sinful,

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wicked governments that were obeyed by its
people and resulted in the greatest

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atrocities in world history.

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And none of those civil powers was any
more wicked than the papacy itself who

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claims to be the ultimate authority of
over all civil governments.

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So we must question, carefully look at
Romans chapter 13 and understand what God

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is really trying to tell us in Romans
chapter 13 instead of what is being spewed

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from the papal pulpits in the protestant
churches.

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Listen again to what Dave says here.

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The great apostle Paul wrote that in so
far as civil rulers, that is the civil

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government, in so far as civil rulers do
not command that which is against God's

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will, every Christian, including the
apostles themselves, is to obey those

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rulers.

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We're to obey the civil power.

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It's a legitimate power established by
God, but that civil power cannot add to or

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take away from God's holy law.

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If the government becomes under the
authority of the antichrist of Rome,

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it is no longer a legitimate government.

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And it must be disobeyed.

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If to obey the civil power we have to
violate God's laws, then we are to obey

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God rather than men.

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And this has been taught throughout the
scriptures, but that's not what's being

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taught from the protestant pulpits today.

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The ecumenical evangelical churches today
said we are to believe and we are to obey

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the civil government.

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And it has completely set aside the law of
God.

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It now rules at the behest of the papacy.

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I've belabored this enough, but I'll read
what it says.

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The great apostle Paul wrote that in so
far as civil rulers do not command that

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which is against God's will, every
Christian, including the apostles

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themselves, is to obey those rulers.

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Romans 13, 1-7.

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We are to pray, quote, for kings and for
all that are in authority, unquote.

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See 1 Timothy 2, chapter 1-3.

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Every Christian is to be subject to the
principalities and powers to obey

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magistrates.

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See Titus chapter 3, verse 1.

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But again, only in so far as the civil
rulers do not command that which is

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against God's will.

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Now Peter wrote to the Christians,
quote, Submit yourself to every ordinance

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of man for the Lord's sake, whether it be
to the king as supreme or unto governors.

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See 1 Peter, chapter 2, verse 13 and 14.

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The popes taught just the opposite.

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They that were the supreme sovereigns and
that only their laws were to be obeyed

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even by kings.

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Right?

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The pope calls himself king of kings and
lord of lords.

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Remember where the pope got his seat and
power and great authority?

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From the deceiver himself, Satan himself,
right?

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Now if he commands the civil governments,
obviously he is commanding people to do

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those things which are against God's will.

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Is that not true?

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He says the total submission that Rome
requires has been expressed by many popes

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but none said it more clearly than Pope
Nicholas the first.

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Listen to what he says.

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It is evident that the popes can neither
be bound nor unbound by any earthly power

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nor even by that of the apostle Peter if
he should return upon the earth since

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Constantine the Great has recognized that
the pontiffs, the popes, held the place of

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God upon the earth, the divinity not being
able to be judged by any living man.

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We are then infallible and whatever may be
our acts we are not accountable for them

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but to ourselves.

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Unquote.

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This is the lawless one.

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This is the one who is not under any
authority but his own and is accountable

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to no one but himself.

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The popes of Rome they have usurped the
place of God on this earth.

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They've overthrown the powers of heaven as
it were.

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The lawless one.

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These are words from Satan himself.

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Listen to it again.

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This is Pope Nicholas I.

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It is evident that the popes can neither
be bound nor unbound by any earthly power,

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not even that of the Apostle Peter if he
should return upon the earth.

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Since Constantine the Great has recognized
that the pontiffs held the place of God

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upon the earth, the divinity not being
able to be judged by any living man,

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we are then infallible, and whatever may
be our acts, we are not accountable for

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them but to ourselves.

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Words of blasphemy.

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Words of blasphemy.

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And this blasphemy rules the world today.

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Not just Roman Catholics.

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It has made every civil government in this
world an illegitimate government that

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submits to this authority.

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And we have no moral or spiritual
obligation to obey Satan's laws and

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Satan's vicar on the earth, the popes of
Rome.

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He says that Nicholas was not expressing
merely his own fanaticism, but the view of

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the popes, which eventually became Roman
Catholic doctrine is clear, both from

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history and from the official Roman
Catholic Church dogmas, which are still in

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effect.

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According to Vatican Council 2,
no one is allowed even to question the

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magisterium in matters of faith and
morals.

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And I was asked the question the other day
on another program, what is the

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magisterium?

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That is the official teaching authority of
the Roman Catholic Church.

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That is the pope together with his
bishops.

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They are the magisterium.

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They are the clergy class.

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Okay?

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They are the elite, the very rich ruling
elite of this world.

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And no one is to question the magisterium.

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They are to just unthinkingly obey,
to consent to every tenet of their

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teaching that they are bound even in their
consciences to obey the teaching of the

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magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church,
both in faith and in morals.

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That is, church and state.

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Only the hierarchy can interpret the
Bible, according to the Roman Catholic

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Church.

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Only the magisterium can interpret the
Bible, and the faithful must accept that

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interpretation as coming from God himself.

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And everyone must obey the pope,
even when he doesn't speak ex cathedra,

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from the throne of Peter.

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Such requirements of blind faith...

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There's your blind faith, folks.

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The blind leading the blind.

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Such requirements of blind faith are
today's vestiges of the tyrannical rule of

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the popes down through the centuries.

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When you submit to the authority of the
papacy, you've submitted to Satan's

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decrees.

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He is a counterfeit Christ on Europe,
and he's to be denounced as such by God's

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people.

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Protestant people.

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Now, under the subtitle, The Failure of
the quote-unquote First Pope, Dave writes,

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If Christ's words to Peter in Matthew
chapter 16 verse 18 made him the first

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infallible pope, then we have another
serious problem.

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The next words out of Peter's mouth denied
the very heart of the Christian gospel by

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declaring that Christ need not go to the
cross.

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Quote, Be it far from thee, Lord,
this death on the cross shall not be unto

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thee.

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See verse 22.

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The Lord responded immediately.

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Quote, What did he say?

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Listen to what he said.

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Get thee behind me, Satan.

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Right?

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In verse 23.

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The immediate next verse.

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This so-called infallible Peter,
the rock and foundation of the church,

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so says Rome, immediately tried to stand
in the way of Christ going to the cross.

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He said, Be it far from thee, Lord,
this shall not be unto thee.

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But the Lord responded immediately,
Get behind me, Satan.

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Here was Peter's initial ex-Cathedra
declaration to the whole church.

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It is recorded in the Bible.

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His declaration on faith and morals.

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It deals with the means of salvation.

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And it was not infallible, but heresy.

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The Pope puts all of his authority on the
Apostle Peter.

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And if it had been left up to Peter,
Jesus would never have gone to the cross,

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and you and I would have never enjoyed the
cleansing that his blood obtained for us.

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Infallible?

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Hardly.

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In the next chapter, Peter seriously errs
again with another heretical

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pronouncement.

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He puts Christ on the same level with
Moses and Elias.

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Quote, Let us make the three tabernacles,
one for thee, one for Moses, and one for

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Elias.

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Unquote.

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Matthew chapter 17, verse 4.

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This time it is God himself from heaven
who rebukes the quote, unquote,

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new Pope.

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Quote, This is my beloved son in whom I am
well pleased.

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Hear ye him.

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Verse chapter 5.

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Verse 5.

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It doesn't say hear Peter.

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It says, This is my beloved son in whom I
am well pleased.

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Hear ye him.

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Unquote.

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Not Peter.

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Later, fearing for his life, Peter denies,
quote, with oaths and curses, unquote,

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that he knew Christ again in declaration
on faith and morals to the entire church

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in denial of Christ himself.

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Even if the Popes were his successors,
Peter could hardly pass on them any

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infallibility which he himself obviously
did not possess.

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Dave Hunt has a way of making a point,
doesn't he?

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I hope that point is well taken.

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We've run out of time for today.

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We'll come back tomorrow and continue our
reading and discussion of the book A Woman

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Rides a Beast by Dave Hunt.

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