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My name is Tom Friess, and I'll be your
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Thanks for tuning in.

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And we'll do, as always, get right to
business here.

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In reading and discussing the book,
A Woman Rides the Beast, by Dave Hunt.

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We're in the chapter entitled,
Sola Scriptura.

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This is a uniquely Protestant
proclamation.

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Sola Scriptura, the scriptures alone.

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We'll begin reading at the chapter break
on page 337, near the top of the page,

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where it says, God's word speaks directly
to all.

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In Old Testament times, the common people
were expected to know God's word,

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not through rabbinical interpretation,
but for themselves.

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And they were able to know it.

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That fact, as well as its availability to
all, is very clear from Christ's rebuke of

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the two disciples on the road to Emmaus.

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Quote, O fools, and slow of heart to
believe all that the prophets have spoken.

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Luke, chapter 24, verse 25.

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He would not have used such harsh language
in holding these two ordinary people

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responsible for their ignorance of the
prophecies, had not all the Old Testament

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scriptures been readily available,
familiar, and understandable to the

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ordinary Jew.

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He then expounded unto them in all the
scriptures, which therefore must have been

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known, the things concerning himself.

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Luke, chapter 24, verse 25 and 27,
through 27.

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All of the scriptures were even available
to the faraway Bereans, north of Greece,

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who, as we have seen, quote, searched the
scriptures daily.

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Unquote.

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Acts, chapter 17, verse 11.

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The same evidence is found in the fact
that Timothy knew the Old Testament from

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early childhood, as recorded in 2 Timothy,
chapter 3, verse 15, and that it was

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taught to him not by the rabbis in the
synagogue, but at home by his mother and

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grandmother, who themselves were women of
faith.

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See 2 Timothy, chapter 1, verse 5.

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It is certainly clear that no one in Old
Testament times looked to any hierarchy

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for an official interpretation of the
scripture, nor did the early church,

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nor should we today.

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The plain words of the Bible, without
Rome's domineering interpretation,

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give the lie to the hierarchical structure
of the Roman Catholic Church and the

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authoritarianism of its clergy.

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Priscilla and Aquila were an ordinary
husband and wife, who labored daily in

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tent-making.

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Acts, chapter 18, verse 3.

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Yet, a church met in their house,
it says according to the scripture,

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1 Corinthians, chapter 16, verse 19,
and they were capable teachers of God's

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word, even instructing a man so eloquent
as Apollos.

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Acts, chapter 18, verse 26.

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Paul referred to them as, quote,
my helpers in Jesus Christ.

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Romans, 16, 3.

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They had never been to seminary and were
not part of a clerical hierarchy,

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a clergy class, which didn't even exist,
but they knew God and His word by the Holy

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Spirit indwelling them.

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So should all Christians today.

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According to Paul, ordinary Christians are
to judge whether a preacher is speaking

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God's truth.

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Paul submitted his writings to the same
criteria, inviting his readers to judge by

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the Holy Spirit within them, whether his
epistles were from God or not.

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Quote, if any man think himself to be a
prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge

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that the things that I write unto you are
the commandments of the Lord.

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First Corinthians, chapter 14,
verse 37.

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It was by the same witness of the Holy
Spirit within each individual believer

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that the first century church decided
which books were canonical, in exactly the

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same way Christians today recognize the
Bible as God's inspired word.

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They didn't need the Roman Catholic Church
to tell them what books of the Bible were

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canonical.

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They didn't need any other witness but the
witness of the Holy Spirit through the

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words of the books that they regarded as
canonical.

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Now, the sad consequences.

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Unfortunately, the average Roman Catholic
has been taught to look to the Roman

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Catholic Church hierarchy for the
instruction which the Holy Spirit desires

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to give directly to every believer.

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To roam, to suggest that the Holy Spirit
speaks to individuals through the words of

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the Bible is anathema.

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Karl Keating, one of the leading Roman
Catholic lay apologists writes,

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quote, the Catholic believes in
inspiration because the church tells him

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so.

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That's putting it bluntly.

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And that same church has the authority to
interpret the inspired text.

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Fundamentals have no interpreting
authority other than themselves.

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Unquote.

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So, he's simply suggesting that
fundamentalists or Protestants have no

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interpreting authority at all.

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They don't have the authority to interpret
God's word.

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It's funny, the Bible says it interprets
itself, doesn't it?

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They're also suggesting by this comment
that Protestants, Bible believers,

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who do not rely upon the hierarchy of the
Roman Catholic Church for anything,

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cannot possess or cannot be indwelled by
the Holy Spirit.

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That's the difference between Roman
Catholicism and true Bible-believing

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Christianity.

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Now, in fact, fundamentalists look to the
guidance of the Holy Spirit.

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Catholicism also claims that guidance,
but only for its hierarchy, who alone can

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be led by the Spirit to understand the
Bible.

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So says the Roman Catholic Church.

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Yet the Bible says every Christian is
indwelt, empowered, and led by the Holy

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Spirit.

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That's what the Bible says.

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Rome says only the priesthood are led by
the Holy Spirit.

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The Bible says every Christian is indwelt,
empowered, and led by the Holy Spirit.

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In fact, one's not even a Christian
without this inner witness and leading of

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the Holy Spirit.

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Quote.

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Now if any man have not the Spirit of
Christ, he is none of his.

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For as many as are led by the Spirit of
God, they are the sons of God.

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The Spirit itself beareth witness with our
spirit that we are, that we are the

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children of God.

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Romans chapter 8, verse 9, 14,
and 16.

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Another quote.

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But God hath revealed them, that is,
the things of God, unto us by his Spirit.

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For the Spirit searcheth all things,
yea, the deep things of God.

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The things of God knoweth no man but by
the Spirit of God.

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Now we have received not the Spirit of the
world, but the Spirit which is of God,

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that we might know the things that are
freely given to us of God, which things

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also we speak, not in the words which
man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy

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Spirit teacheth.

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First Corinthians chapter 2, verse 10
through 13.

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Having been convinced that he cannot
understand the Bible for himself,

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the devout Roman Catholic is at the mercy
of his church and must believe whatever it

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teaches.

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The Roman Catholic Catechism of Catholic
doctrine bluntly declares, quote,

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man can obtain a knowledge of God's word
only from the Catholic Church and through

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its duly constituted channels.

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When he has once mastered this principle
of divine authority residing in the

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church, the inquirer is prepared to accept
whatever the divine church teaches on

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faith, morals and the means of grace,
unquote.

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Here again brazenly stated is the first
principle of every cult, quote,

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check your mind at the door and believe
whatever the group or the church or the

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guru or the prophet in charge says,
unquote.

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The idea appeals to those who think that
by this surrendering their minds to an

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infallible authority, they somehow escape
their individual moral responsibility to

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God.

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Others are afraid to think for themselves
because that would put them outside the

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church, where, quote, there is no
salvation, unquote, according to the Roman

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Catholic Church teaching.

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By this means God's word, which should
speak powerfully to each individual,

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is held just out of reach of individual
Roman Catholics by their church.

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So when was the New Testament canon
established?

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When was the New Testament canon
established?

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We are taught by the Roman Catholic Church
that they established the canon of the New

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Testament.

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What is the truth of the matter?

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Dave Hunt says that the New Testament
canon, exactly like the old, was accepted

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and recognized by a consensus of the
believers as it was being written,

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is clear from the historic evidence we
have given above.

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Further proof comes from the testimony of
Peter.

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Quote, even as our beloved brother Paul,
also according to the wisdom given unto

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him, hath written it unto you,
as also in all his epistles, speaking in

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them of things in which some things are
hard to be understood, which they that are

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unlearned and unable twist, as they do
also the other scriptures, unto their own

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destruction.

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2 Peter 3, verse 15 and 16.

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Now obviously, the disciples considered
all of Paul's writings scripture.

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Was it not they who canonized Paul's
writings, the disciples and the believers,

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once they had read Paul's writings and
verified it through God's word and also

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through the witness of the Holy Spirit
within them?

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What is this nonsense that the Roman
Catholic Church gave us the Bible?

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It's just simply that, nonsense.

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Now Peter acknowledges Paul's writings to
be scripture.

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So has apparently the entire body of
believers at this time.

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The other scriptures, by that time,
would have included most of the remainder

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of the New Testament.

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Furthermore, these books were so readily
available and well-known by common

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consensus, already at this early date,
about 66 AD, that Peter didn't even need

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to name the books.

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Christians knew what writings were
inspired of God in the same way a native

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in the jungle knows that the gospel is
true, by the convicting power of the Holy

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Spirit.

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Tragically, Roman Catholicism not only
teaches that the church hierarchy alone

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can interpret the Bible, but that no one
can believe it without the church

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attesting to its authenticity.

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Keating suggests that the gospel itself
has no power without this endorsement.

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He quotes Roman Catholic Saint Augustine,
I would not believe in the gospel if the

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authority of the Roman Catholic Church did
not move me to do so.

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If that's true, then no one prior to the
Third Council of Carthage in 397 AD could

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have believed or preached the gospel.

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Yet the gospel was preached from the very
beginning.

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Paul turned the world upside down with the
gospel.

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See Acts chapter 17 verse 6.

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Within the first two centuries,
just two centuries, about 10% of the Roman

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Empire became Christians and studied,
meditated upon, believed, and were led

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both by the Old and the New Testament
Scriptures exactly as we have them today.

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If they could know what books were
inspired, if they, those early Christians,

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could know what books were inspired and
could be guided by them without the

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authenticating stamp of the Roman Catholic
Church, which didn't even exist then,

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then so can we today.

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The absurdity and destructiveness of the
view that God's word must have Rome's

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endorsement is immediately apparent.

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It is a blasphemous denial that the gospel
in itself has power to save or that the

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Holy Spirit can use the Bible to speak
directly to hearers' hearts.

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Under this view, one must first prove that
the Roman Catholic Church is the one true

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church, that it is infallible,
that it says the Bible is true,

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and that therefore the Bible and the
gospel must be believed.

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Only then can the gospel be preached.

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How absurd!

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Yet to a Catholic, this view makes perfect
sense because the church is the vehicle of

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salvation, they are told.

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One's eternal destiny depends not upon
one's relationship to Christ, who is

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revealed in His word, but upon one's
relationship to that Roman Catholic Church

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and participation in its sacraments.

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This theory, of course, is refuted by the
Bible itself.

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Christ and His disciples preached the
gospel before any church was established.

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Early in His ministry, before even saying
anything about establishing His church,

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Christ sent His disciples forth,
and they departed and went through the

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towns, preaching the gospel.

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Luke chapter 9, verse 6.

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Eleven times in the four gospels,
we are told that Christ and His disciples

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were engaged in preaching the gospel,
a gospel which is the power of God unto

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salvation, to those who believe.

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Romans chapter 1, verse 16.

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Yet, there was no Roman Catholic Church in
existence to verify that the gospel was

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true, nor does today's preaching need
Rome's endorsement any more than it did in

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the beginning.

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Three thousand souls were saved on the day
of Pentecost without Peter saying one word

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about an infallible church, putting its
approval on what he preached.

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Even after Pentecost, we find no attempt
by Christians who, quote, went everywhere

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preaching the word, Acts chapter 8,
verse 4, to prove that an infallible

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church existed and endorsed the gospel.

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We read of the preaching of Philip in
Samaria, and of Paul in many places,

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where multitudes believed, yet not once is
the gospel supported by the statement that

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Christ established an infallible church,
and that the bishops of his church had put

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their official stamp of approval upon what
was being preached.

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If the endorsement of the Roman Catholic
Church wasn't needed then, neither is it

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needed now.

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For the word of God is, quote,
living and powerful, a discerner of the

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thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Hebrews chapter 4, verse 12.

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We have the sufficiency of the scriptures
to guide us.

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Quote, show us one verse in the Bible that
clearly declares sola scriptura,

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that the Bible is sufficient in itself,
unquote, is the specious challenge thrown

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out by Roman Catholic apologists.

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One might as well demand, quote,
just one verse that states that God is a

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triune being of Father, Son and Holy
Spirit, unquote.

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No single verse says so.

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Yet the doctrine of the Trinity is
accepted by both Catholics and Protestants

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as biblical.

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Nor is there a single verse which contains
the words, quote, the Bible is sufficient,

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unquote.

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However, when we put together the many
verses in the Bible on this topic,

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it is clear that the Bible teaches its own
sufficiency, both to authenticate itself

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to the reader and to lead to spiritual
maturity and effectiveness all who are

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indwelt by the Holy Spirit and read it
with open hearts.

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Paul declared that scripture was given for
doctrine, for reproof, for correction,

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for instruction in righteousness,
and that the Bible itself makes the man or

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woman of God perfect, that is,
mature, complete, all that God intended,

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thoroughly furnished and equipped unto all
good works, 2 Timothy 3, verses 16 and 17.

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In other words, the Bible contains all the
doctrine, all the correction, all the

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instruction in righteousness that is
needed for those who heed it to become

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complete in Christ.

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Catholic apologist, quote, 19th century
cardinal John Henry Newman to the effect

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that if this passage proves the above,
then it, quote, proves too much,

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unquote, that, quote, the Old Testament
alone would be sufficient as a rule of

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faith, the New Testament unnecessary,
unquote, because all Timothy had was the

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Old Testament.

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The argument is fallacious for several
reasons.

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First of all, Timothy had more than the
Old Testament.

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This is Paul's second epistle to him,
so he has at least two epistles from Paul

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in addition to the Old Testament.

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Paul goes on to say that he is about to be
martyred in 2 Timothy 4, verses 6-8,

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making it this the last epistle Paul
wrote.

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So Timothy obviously has all of Paul's
epistles.

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The date is probably around 66 AD,
so he also has the first three gospels and

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most of the rest of the New Testament.

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Furthermore, when Paul says all scripture,
it is clear that he means the entire

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Bible, not merely that which had been
written up to that time.

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Similar expressions are often used in
scripture, but they never mean only the

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Bible written to that time.

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When Jesus said, quote, the word that I
have spoken, the same shall judge him in

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the last day.

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John chapter 12, verse 48.

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He didn't mean only what he had spoken to
that time.

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Likewise, when he said, quote,
thy word is truth, John 17, 17,

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he obviously meant all of God's word,
though all had not yet been written.

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When the writer of the Hebrews said,
quote, the word of God is living and

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powerful, sharper than any two-edged
sword, he didn't mean only that part of

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the word of God that had been written to
that time, nor did Paul by, quote,

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all scripture, unquote, mean only that
which had been written to that time.

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He clearly meant all scripture.

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So Cardinal Newman was wrong, and naively
so.

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Yet, Catholic apologists confidently quote
his folly to disprove the sufficiency of

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scripture.

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Quote, that the man of God be perfect,
unquote, simply means that the word of God

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is all one needs to be perfect,
in the sense of being mature and all that

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God wants a Christian to be.

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Catholic apologists refer to other verses
where the word perfect is used,

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such as, quote, if you would be perfect,
sell all that you have and give to the

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poor, unquote, or, quote, let patience
have its perfect work, that ye may be

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perfect and entire, etc.

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Then they contend that if it be argued
from 2 Timothy 3, verse 17, that the Bible

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is sufficient to perfect believers,
then selling everyone one has and giving

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it to the poor, or being patient,
is also sufficient to make one perfect.

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Again, the argument fails.

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Suppose an athletic trainer offers a
perfect diet, with all the nutritional

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elements one needs to produce a perfect
body.

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This doesn't mean that other things,
such as exercise, aren't necessary.

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See the reasoning?

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We'll continue with the reading and
discussion of the book, A Woman Rides a

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Beast, by Dave Hunt, when we get back from
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I was taught that Daniel's 70th week was
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Is that really what the Bible teaches?

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Have we searched the scriptures and found
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Why is it so important for a
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Temple in Jerusalem?

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Is it necessary to build a temple on the
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of the Rocks?

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Is it necessary for sacrifices to take
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Is there really a rapture followed by
seven years of tribulation?

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What is the New Testament Temple?

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Can we identify history and prophecy?

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Who are the seven kings in Revelation 17?

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scripture is of any private

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interpretation.

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Nicholas shows us in his new book,
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Now, back to the book, Sola Scriptura.

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Speaking of these empty arguments by the
Roman Catholic Church, their authority to

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canonize the scriptures, their authority
to authenticate God's Word.

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I mean, it's ridiculous on its face.

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It is absurd on its face.

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More, it is diabolical on its face.

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Again, the argument fails.

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Suppose an athletic trainer offers a
perfect diet with all the nutritional

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elements one needs to produce a perfect
body.

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This doesn't mean that the other things,
such as exercise, aren't necessary.

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Paul is saying that the doctrine,
reproof, correction, and instruction in

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righteousness contained in the scripture
is sufficient teaching for the man or the

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woman of God to be all that God desires of
them.

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This does not mean that one doesn't have
to exercise patience, faith, obedience,

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and charity, etc.

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which themselves are taught by the
scripture.

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It does mean that in the area of doctrine,
reproof, correction, and instruction in

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righteousness, the Bible needs no
supplementation from tradition or any

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other source.

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Moreover, the Apostle Paul goes on to say
that the man or the woman of God is,

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by the scriptures themselves, quote,
thoroughly prepared unto every good work,

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unquote.

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The Bible never makes such a statement
about patience, or love, or charity,

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or tradition, or anything else.

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Paul is clearly teaching sola scriptura.

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This doctrine was not invented by the
Protestant Reformers.

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They derived it from scripture.

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What's the central issue?

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A clear choice.

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When Thomas Howard, brother of Elizabeth
Elliot, wife of martyred missionary Jim

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Elliot, became a Catholic, Gordon College
removed him from its faculty.

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Among the reasons given was the fact that
the statement of faith which all faculty

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had to sign affirmed the Bible as,
quote, the only infallible guide in faith

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and practice, unquote.

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Impossible for a Roman Catholic to sign.

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Howard acknowledged that, quote,
the sole authority of scripture is a

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principle unique to Protestantism and that
he, as a Roman Catholic, could not

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subscribe to it, unquote.

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Sola scriptura remains the central issue
at heart of the Protestant Reformation.

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One must choose between submitting to the
authority of the Bible or to that of the

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Roman Catholic Church.

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You can't have it both ways.

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One cannot do both because of the clear
conflict between the two.

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The choice one must make is obvious.

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Blind submission to any earthly hierarchy
in itself contradicts the Bible.

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Moreover, we've given more than sufficient
evidence, more than sufficient evidence

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from history to show that the Roman
Catholic Church, from the Pope right on

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down, has forfeited any claim it may ever
have had to be trusted.

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The most tragic consequence of the blind
faith in their church is the sole

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interpreter of the Word of God for mankind
is that hundreds of millions of Roman

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Catholics consequently trust it for their
eternal destiny.

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The question of salvation, therefore,
is also a key issue necessarily separating

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Roman Catholics and Evangelicals.

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The message is clear.

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There is no legitimate ecumenical reunion
between Protestantism and Roman

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Catholicism.

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They are mutually exclusive events.

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So what you get when you ecumenically
reunite with the Roman Catholic Church?

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You have put yourself under another
master.

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And one which with God will not share
space.

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You've essentially rejected the God of the
Protestants, the God of the Bible.

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And you've accepted the authority of the
God of this world, Satan himself.

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Now we'll continue to chapter 23 entitled,
A Question of Salvation.

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This gets right to the heart of the issue
and before we begin we'll read the quotes

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on the previous page.

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This from Galatians chapter 1 verse 8,
chapter 2 verse 16.

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Though we or an angel from heaven preach
any other gospel unto you than that which

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we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed.

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A man is not justified by the works of the
law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ.

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For by the works of the law shall no flesh
be justified.

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Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 and 9.

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For by grace are ye saved, through faith,
and that not of yourselves.

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It is a gift of God, not of works,
lest any man should boast.

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From the Council of Trent, the
Counter-Reformation Council of Trent.

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The Jesuit led Counter-Reformation Council
of Trent, session 7.

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Quote, if anyone says that the sacraments
of the new law, that is of the Roman

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Catholic Church, are not necessary for
salvation, but that without them men

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obtain from God through faith alone the
grace of justification, let him be

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anathema.

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Let him be accursed.

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Here another quote, this one from Second
Vatican Council Apostolic Constitution on

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the Revision of Indulgences.

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Quote, from the most ancient times in the
church, good works were also offered to

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God for the salvation of sinners.

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By the prayers and good works of holy
people, the penitent was washed,

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cleansed, and redeemed.

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Following in Christ's steps, those who
believe in him have always carried their

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crosses to make expiation for their own
sins and for the sins of others,

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to help their brothers to obtain salvation
from God.

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Unquote.

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See the two different sources of
salvation?

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One is godly, Protestant.

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The other is Roman Catholic, Antichrist.

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A question of salvation.

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Sacred tradition and sacred scripture make
up a single sacred deposit of the word of

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God, says Vatican Council 2.

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When it's tradition and the Bible
conflict, Rome goes by tradition.

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Thereby is created the widest difference
between Protestants and Catholics.

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The question of salvation.

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That vast chasm of division, recognized
for 400 years by both Protestants and

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Catholics, neither of whom has changed
basic beliefs, is now denied by leading

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evangelicals.

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Charles Colson, for example, in response
to questions concerning his embracing

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Catholics as Christians, says,
quote, We have differences, but on the

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ancient creeds and the core beliefs of
Christianity, we stand together.

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Unquote.

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Not so, says Dave Hunt.

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Agreement on the creeds, yes, but the
creeds say nothing about how one is saved.

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Salvation is the one most important core
belief in Christianity.

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And on that point, the differences between
evangelicals and Roman Catholics is as

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great as the difference between eternal
life and eternal judgment.

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The saved and the unsaved.

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The Bible says there are two classes of
people.

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Those who are saved and those who are
unsaved, or lost.

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Christ himself declared that his mission
was to save a world of lost people.

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Quote, The Son of Man has come to seek and
to save that which was lost.

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Luke chapter 19, verse 10.

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Quote, I came to save the world.

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Unquote.

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John chapter 12, verse 47.

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God sent him.

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Quote, That the world might through him be
saved.

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John chapter 3, verse 17.

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Paul testified, quote, Christ Jesus came
into the world to save sinners.

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1 Timothy 1, verse 15.

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Save them from what?

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From the judgment of God, eternally
separating them from God's presence

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because of sin.

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Quote, He that believeth on the Son hath
everlasting life.

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And he that believeth not the Son shall
not see life, but the wrath of God abideth

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upon him.

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John chapter 3, verse 36.

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Quote, In flaming fire, taking vengeance
on them that know not God and that obey

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not the gospel, who shall be punished with
everlasting destruction from the presence

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of the Lord, that they all might be damned
who believe not the truth.

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2 Thessalonians, chapter 1, verse 8 and 9,
and chapter 2, verse 12.

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Whosoever was not written in the book of
life was cast into the lake of fire.

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Revelation chapter 20, verse 15.

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The gospel declares, quote, That Christ
died for our sins according to the

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scriptures, and that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day.

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1 Corinthians 15, 3 and 4.

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Evangelicals believe the gospel not merely
as a fact of history, but as offering them

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forgiveness for their sins and eternal
life, as a free gift of God's grace.

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Paul said, this is the gospel,
quote, by which also ye are saved.

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Unquote.

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1 Corinthians chapter 15, verse 2.

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On that basis, the evangelical knows he is
saved.

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One, quote, gets saved, unquote,
the moment one believes the gospel.

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To the earnest cry, what must I do to be
saved?

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According to Acts chapter 16, verse 30,
Paul responded, quote, Believe on the Lord

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Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

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Verse 31.

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It's that simple.

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The moment faith is placed in Christ,
one is saved, never to be lost again.

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One has, quote, passed from death unto
life, unquote, and is no longer under

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God's judgment.

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John chapter 5, verse 24.

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Heaven is now one's home, and death means
to be, quote, absent from the body and

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present with the Lord.

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2 Corinthians 5.8.

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The Bible says, quote, For God so loved
the world that he gave his only begotten

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Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall
not perish but have everlasting life.

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I am the door, said Jesus, by me if any
man enter, he shall be saved.

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My sheep hear my voice, and I know them,
and they follow me, and I give unto them

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eternal life, and they shall never perish.

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Unto us which are saved,

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it pleased God by the foolishness of
preaching to save them that believe,

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by which also ye are saved.

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By grace are ye saved.

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Who will have all men to be saved?

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Who hath saved us?

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According to his mercy he saved us.

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The nations of them which are saved.

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All of these things are from God's book.

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The Bible.

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And what Roman Catholic priest could ever
say, ye are saved.

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Not one.

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Because they know that even after death,
the one who dies must go to purgatory to

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keep purging his sins.

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And only then can they go to heaven if
their sins can be purged away.

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There is no salvation in the Roman
Catholic Church.

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There is never in any Roman Catholic's
life, according to Roman Catholic

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teaching, if they believe what the Roman
Catholic Church teaches, there is not one

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period of time in the Roman Catholic's
life, from cradle to grave, that he is

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ever assured of salvation.

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Continuing on page 349 of the book,
it says the Evangelical believes that

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having accepted Christ's offer of pardon
and eternal life, he is a Christian,

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born of the Holy Spirit into God's family.

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He is certain that as a child of God,
he will never perish.

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John chapter 10 verse 28.

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Nor, quote, come into condemnation.

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John chapter 5 verse 24.

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His salvation is secure, because by God's
wonderful grace, Christ's death paid the

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penalty for his sins.

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So says God's word, quote, He that
believeth on the Son of God hath the

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witness in himself, that is the assurance
of the Holy Spirit in his heart,

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that he that believeth not God hath made
him a liar, because he believeth not the

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record that God gave of his Son.

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And this is the record, that God hath
given to us eternal life, and this life is

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in his Son.

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He that hath the Son hath life,
and he that hath not the Son of God hath

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not life.

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These things have I written unto you,
that you believe on the name of the Son of

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God, that ye may know that ye have eternal
life, and that ye may believe on the name

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of the Son of God.

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1 John 5 verse 10-13 What a wonderful
salvation!

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What a wonderful assurance!

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No Roman Catholic, no Roman Catholic,
has that assurance.

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The evangelical goal, salvation of
sinners, While growing up in an

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evangelical home, and church, one may
believe the gospel intellectually from a

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child, yet realize he has not yet saved.

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Merely mentally, all that the Bible says
does not save.

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One must personally receive Christ as
Savior.

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In that act of faith, one is saved.

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For by grace are ye saved, through faith.

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Ephesians 2 verse 8 Everything is now
different.

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One has become a new creature in Christ.

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Old things are passed away.

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Behold, all things are become new.

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2 Corinthians 5 verse 17 The person is now
saved.

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A member of the universal church,
not through joining a Baptist,

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or a Lutheran, or a Methodist,
or a Catholic, or any other church,

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but through the Spirit of God,
having placed him in the body of Christ.

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Quote, The Lord added to the church daily,
such as should be saved.

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Unquote.

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Acts chapter 2 verse 47 Quote,
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into

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one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles.

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1 Corinthians chapter 12 verse 13 This is
the good news of the gospel.

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Christ told his disciples to quote,
Go into all the world and preach the

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gospel.

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Mark chapter 16 verse 15 So that his
mission of saving sinners would be

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accomplished.

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The primary goal of evangelicals is to
preach the gospel to the lost,

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so that they might be saved.

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Peter said, We quote, Must be saved.

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Unquote.

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Acts chapter 4 verse 12 Through Jesus.

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Since there is no other way of salvation.

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Paul's passion for this...

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Paul's passion for his fellow Jews was
quote, That they might be saved.

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Romans chapter 10 verse 1 Such is the
desire of the evangelical for all mankind,

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including Roman Catholics.

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Come out of her, my people.

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Come out of the Roman Catholic Church.

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Come out of the ecumenical movement.

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And be united with Christ.

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Come out of her, before it's too late.

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