WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 Block Talk Radio. 00:04.160 --> 00:10.920 Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done. 00:11.680 --> 00:17.820 Lay your weary head to rest, don't you cry no more. 00:19.100 --> 00:24.980 Well, good evening everyone and welcome to another edition of Wayward News Network. 00:25.400 --> 00:27.000 I'm your host, Johnny Henderson. 00:27.600 --> 00:33.240 Here we are on the cusp of a new year, just a few hours away from 2011. 00:34.480 --> 00:39.740 If you're out partying and carrying on this evening, I really want to encourage 00:39.740 --> 00:41.320 you to be responsible. 00:42.160 --> 00:44.920 Don't drink and drive, there's a lot of innocent people out there. 00:45.780 --> 00:49.400 Nobody needs to be hurt because you want to be careless. 00:51.480 --> 00:55.240 Before we get started tonight, I want to take just a couple of minutes 00:55.240 --> 01:01.960 and thank a few people It's been a very trying year and it's been hard to get a 01:01.960 --> 01:07.280 lot of things done, but every week my wife consistently makes sure that the show is 01:07.280 --> 01:13.520 ready to go so that I can bring the information to you that I do. 01:14.260 --> 01:16.340 So I want to thank my wife and my family. 01:17.160 --> 01:21.000 And I want to remember our friends down in the Gulf who've been affected by the BP 01:21.000 --> 01:24.980 oil spill, Kendra and Vicky, Johnny and Greg. 01:25.680 --> 01:28.480 These people down there are having a really, really hard time. 01:29.100 --> 01:32.780 And I want to tell them really quick because I know there's been some issues. 01:34.720 --> 01:43.380 Some people use a medical treatment called MMS and others don't. 01:44.040 --> 01:49.680 I don't want to weigh in too heavy, but I will say that I used MMS when the 01:49.680 --> 01:52.240 swine flu outbreak was at its peak. 01:52.240 --> 01:54.920 Everyone I worked with was sick with swine flu. 01:55.640 --> 01:58.820 And while I used MMS, I never got sick once. 01:58.960 --> 02:01.580 So I can say that it does have some benefits. 02:02.520 --> 02:03.620 Give it a chance. 02:04.300 --> 02:07.120 I'm not a doctor, but I will say that it worked for me. 02:08.000 --> 02:12.880 I also want to thank my friends Steve and Nathan and Rick and Gene and Cal. 02:13.420 --> 02:16.440 I want to thank everyone who's took the time to be a guest on this show and 02:16.440 --> 02:18.000 everybody who's took the time to listen. 02:18.560 --> 02:23.600 And I want to thank some other friends of mine who have just always been there when 02:23.600 --> 02:24.340 I needed them to. 02:24.560 --> 02:30.400 I want to thank Angel and Michelle and Monica and Lindsay and Jacinda and Tish. 02:30.480 --> 02:32.960 I appreciate, you know, y'all being my friends. 02:33.760 --> 02:37.100 And I hope you have a much better year than you had last year. 02:38.200 --> 02:42.560 Having said that, I've really enjoyed doing the show. 02:43.200 --> 02:47.420 But I've recently come into more information. 02:47.900 --> 02:49.700 And it's a bit controversial. 02:49.980 --> 02:52.640 Tonight's show may sting a little bit if you've never heard any of this 02:52.640 --> 02:53.180 information. 02:54.840 --> 02:58.120 So I'm not pointing fingers at anybody. 02:58.460 --> 03:03.540 But I would not be doing you a favor if I didn't report the things that I've 03:03.540 --> 03:03.860 learned. 03:04.600 --> 03:10.780 With me tonight is pastor and author Bill Hughes. 03:10.780 --> 03:14.120 Now, Bill has written a couple of fascinating books. 03:14.540 --> 03:19.520 And if you have the opportunity to get them, I would really recommend picking 03:19.520 --> 03:22.160 those books up and checking them out. 03:22.640 --> 03:24.780 One is called The Enemy Unmasked. 03:25.000 --> 03:26.920 And the other is The Secret Terrorist. 03:27.400 --> 03:34.020 Now, we always hear that our enemy is Middle Eastern men with turbans. 03:34.440 --> 03:36.340 Now, they may have some beef against us. 03:37.600 --> 03:41.900 But they are not the only enemies of humanity. 03:43.100 --> 03:46.780 And tonight we're going to learn a little bit about who our secret enemy is. 03:47.440 --> 03:48.960 Bill, welcome to the show. 03:49.980 --> 03:51.760 Johnny, it's good to be with you tonight. 03:53.500 --> 03:56.060 And it's a blessing to me to have you on. 03:56.620 --> 03:59.340 I never dared dream that I would get you on, you know. 03:59.420 --> 04:03.100 I'm sure that you're a very busy man, you know, being an author and a pastor and 04:03.100 --> 04:05.180 all the million other things that you do. 04:06.960 --> 04:10.040 Well, Johnny, it's nice to be with you. 04:10.420 --> 04:17.300 And, you know, as you stated in your opening remarks, your wife doing such a 04:17.300 --> 04:18.680 very admirable job. 04:18.940 --> 04:23.900 And, you know, she called me, I think, Johnny, it was at least a month ago and 04:23.900 --> 04:26.780 asked if I could be on New Year's Eve. 04:27.000 --> 04:29.700 And, you know, so she's really on the ball, Johnny. 04:29.700 --> 04:35.160 And you've got a fine lady there at your side, as well as I do down here in 04:35.160 --> 04:35.520 Florida. 04:35.820 --> 04:41.140 Because I know with all the many and sundry things, Johnny, that I do from 04:41.140 --> 04:46.080 preaching and traveling across the world and writing books and getting materials 04:46.080 --> 04:52.720 out to people, you know, it's a real blessing to have a special lady behind 04:52.720 --> 04:53.020 you. 04:53.140 --> 04:57.120 And my wife has stood with me, and it's been a great blessing to me, 04:57.220 --> 04:57.400 too. 04:57.400 --> 05:03.140 So I'm glad I can be with you tonight, Johnny, and, you know, go over some of 05:03.140 --> 05:04.580 this material from my books. 05:06.560 --> 05:07.480 Very good. 05:07.640 --> 05:11.420 And I do consider myself very fortunate to have the wife that I have. 05:13.480 --> 05:16.580 I would be like a paraplegic without her. 05:17.160 --> 05:18.220 I really would. 05:20.920 --> 05:26.640 Well, anyway, Bill, tell us a little bit about yourself, you know, for those who 05:26.640 --> 05:30.060 don't know any more about you than other than what I've said. 05:32.100 --> 05:39.280 Johnny, basically, I've been a teacher for most of my professional life. 05:39.880 --> 05:42.680 I have done some pastoral work, as well. 05:43.430 --> 05:50.880 And then I've been in ministry for the last 25 years, starting back in 1985, 05:51.260 --> 05:55.760 up in the area of the northeast part of this country, in Pennsylvania, 05:55.980 --> 05:56.560 New Jersey. 05:56.880 --> 06:04.480 And then have pastored and taught in South Lake Tahoe, California, and then in 06:04.480 --> 06:05.820 Northern California. 06:05.820 --> 06:08.800 And now, currently, I'm back here in Florida. 06:09.580 --> 06:15.200 And very, very thankful, Johnny, because not only having written books and 06:15.200 --> 06:19.960 traveled many different places around the world, from Africa to the Middle East, 06:20.120 --> 06:29.600 to Europe, Central America, the Far East, Australia, New Zealand, where I've had the 06:29.600 --> 06:30.680 privilege to preach. 06:32.680 --> 06:37.500 But I've also, Johnny, had the great blessing of being able to send literature 06:37.500 --> 06:40.940 into over 100 countries across the world. 06:41.160 --> 06:44.040 So, I feel very, very fortunate, Johnny. 06:44.420 --> 06:46.260 God has been very good to me. 06:47.500 --> 06:52.900 And, you know, in writing the books that I have, as you mentioned, the material is 06:52.900 --> 06:54.580 somewhat volatile. 06:55.400 --> 07:01.480 It either upsets people or it just absolutely galvanizes and thrills people. 07:03.420 --> 07:03.860 But, nevertheless... 07:03.860 --> 07:06.120 I don't think you're still alive writing those books. 07:06.800 --> 07:13.180 Well, you know, Johnny, I've had several threats that have been made. 07:13.180 --> 07:19.920 I had some meetings a few years ago out in Oregon, and before I went out there to 07:19.920 --> 07:26.780 speak, we mass-mailed my first book, The Secret Terrorist, and invited people 07:26.780 --> 07:29.120 to the meetings I was going to have. 07:30.080 --> 07:32.080 And there were threats made, Johnny. 07:32.240 --> 07:36.260 People said, if Hugh shows up to the meeting, we'll burn the building down. 07:37.880 --> 07:43.560 You know, I've had people, after they've gotten my book in the mail, they send it 07:43.560 --> 07:48.840 back after having sent it through a shredder, and it looks like spaghetti 07:48.840 --> 07:49.400 noodles. 07:50.100 --> 07:53.760 And then they've attached a sticky note to it, and they've said, you're next. 07:55.100 --> 08:01.660 And then I've had people in law enforcement write to me, and people from 08:01.660 --> 08:06.220 Tallahassee have written to me and said, you know, we're getting all kinds of 08:06.220 --> 08:10.100 complaints about what you've written, and you need to stop. 08:10.280 --> 08:17.620 And I've simply said to them, Johnny, you know, I have three purposes in my 08:17.620 --> 08:18.600 professional life. 08:18.600 --> 08:25.800 Number one is to help people understand what is going on in the past, in the 08:25.800 --> 08:27.220 present, and in the future. 08:27.760 --> 08:34.240 Number two, it's to try to engage people in Bible studies so that they can have 08:34.240 --> 08:37.280 peace and hope for today in Jesus Christ. 08:37.900 --> 08:41.760 And number three, Johnny, it's to help people to be ready for the second coming 08:41.760 --> 08:43.620 of Christ, which I believe is imminent. 08:44.580 --> 08:48.140 I believe the events taking place in our world tell us so. 08:48.140 --> 08:53.500 So, Johnny, that's been my whole goal in writing the books that I have. 08:53.820 --> 09:01.460 And, you know, if people express their displeasure in cruel and deadly ways, 09:01.680 --> 09:04.060 well, you know, they can do that, Johnny. 09:04.200 --> 09:09.740 But I have a mission, you know, I have a purpose for why I'm here. 09:09.880 --> 09:15.100 God's made me, and so he's protected me and taken care of me to do what I'm doing. 09:16.900 --> 09:21.660 Well, I'm glad that he has, because, man, wow, those books. 09:21.720 --> 09:23.960 And we'll get into what's in those books in just a couple of minutes. 09:26.960 --> 09:30.720 But nearly everything in there is 100% documentable. 09:31.340 --> 09:33.980 You can prove everything that you've written in there. 09:34.060 --> 09:36.000 People just do the legwork and the research. 09:36.680 --> 09:40.440 It's amazing to me that so many people would just reject it. 09:41.940 --> 09:47.900 Well, the fact of the matter is, Johnny, and see, Johnny, in writing books 09:47.900 --> 09:53.120 and doing research for many, many years and teaching young people, both junior 09:53.120 --> 09:59.120 high and high school age young people, how to research and how to write papers so 09:59.120 --> 10:03.260 that they could then in turn learn and be able to do it for themselves. 10:04.580 --> 10:09.020 I always demanded of my students, Johnny, that they would always have 10:09.020 --> 10:10.860 support for what they were saying. 10:10.940 --> 10:14.620 They had to be able to back it up, because, you know, as I tell people, 10:14.760 --> 10:16.440 I say, opinions are like noses. 10:16.700 --> 10:17.660 Everybody's got one. 10:19.260 --> 10:21.380 So that doesn't fly, Johnny. 10:21.600 --> 10:29.640 And so, back nearly 10 years ago, when I felt just deeply impressed that a 10:29.640 --> 10:32.820 book needed to be written, and that's when I wrote the book, The Secret Terrorist, 10:34.820 --> 10:43.340 it was crucial to me, Johnny, that if I made any statement that was different or 10:43.340 --> 10:50.500 unique or something you just don't hear, Johnny, I needed to have at least two 10:50.500 --> 10:51.020 witnesses. 10:51.620 --> 10:57.540 I had to have at least two sources that backed up the conclusion that I was 10:57.540 --> 10:57.980 drawing. 10:58.540 --> 11:01.960 And, Johnny, if I didn't have that, if I didn't have at least two witnesses, 11:02.120 --> 11:03.600 I wouldn't put it in my books. 11:05.160 --> 11:08.620 It's strange you say that, because I was reading in the Bible this morning that it 11:08.620 --> 11:12.220 said something to the effect of out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, 11:12.420 --> 11:13.560 the truth will be established. 11:14.120 --> 11:19.140 That was the principle, Johnny, that I went by, not only in my teaching, 11:19.820 --> 11:21.400 but also in my own writing. 11:21.560 --> 11:24.720 And that was the principle that Christ laid down in Scripture. 11:25.740 --> 11:28.680 You've got to have authority, Johnny. 11:28.740 --> 11:30.640 You've got to have witnesses to back it up. 11:30.680 --> 11:31.600 And Christ said that. 11:32.380 --> 11:35.980 So that was very, very important to me. 11:36.480 --> 11:40.500 And I knew that the material I was looking at was volatile. 11:41.100 --> 11:42.760 I knew it was alarming. 11:43.060 --> 11:44.800 I knew it was shocking. 11:45.580 --> 11:48.340 And it's frightening to many, many people. 11:49.260 --> 11:55.880 But, Johnny, let's face it, the material in my books is not what you typically hear 11:55.880 --> 12:00.780 or see in a typical history book in a high school program. 12:00.780 --> 12:02.720 Or a college course. 12:02.960 --> 12:06.580 You just don't read what I have put into these books. 12:06.840 --> 12:11.680 And basically, Johnny, what I've done is gleaned from many, many different sources. 12:11.680 --> 12:19.200 And the people, Johnny, that I've talked about in my books, from presidents to 12:19.200 --> 12:27.260 statesmen to congressmen to Supreme Court justices to famous Americans like Samuel 12:27.260 --> 12:27.540 B. 12:27.780 --> 12:31.280 Morse, who I quote in several chapters of my book. 12:32.780 --> 12:42.560 Johnny, these people are prominent Americans or statesmen that the world is 12:42.560 --> 12:43.560 familiar with. 12:43.560 --> 12:49.760 And I've just looked at them, Johnny, in the light of what they've said and in 12:49.760 --> 12:59.040 the light of trends and what was going on to help people see the true history of 12:59.040 --> 13:02.020 America past, present, and future. 13:02.900 --> 13:08.660 And I've scoured over a lot of the documents that you cite from and tracked 13:08.660 --> 13:13.580 down a lot of source materials, and you are right on the money with this. 13:15.140 --> 13:19.400 Now before we get out of here tonight, I hope you'll tell everybody how they can 13:19.400 --> 13:20.980 actually get a copy of your books. 13:21.760 --> 13:23.760 Oh, Johnny, I'd be happy to do that. 13:24.100 --> 13:25.380 No problem at all. 13:25.380 --> 13:27.560 Johnny, it's crucial. 13:27.740 --> 13:30.040 The material we're dealing with is crucial. 13:31.300 --> 13:36.520 And it demands, Johnny, it demands a high standard. 13:36.920 --> 13:44.520 And I've sought to meet a standard whereby people could say, hey, this is the truth, 13:44.700 --> 13:46.400 and I'm standing on this. 13:46.400 --> 13:54.840 And that's why I've gone and done the research that I have in getting material 13:54.840 --> 13:57.720 and backing up conclusions that I've made. 13:57.940 --> 13:59.160 It's very important to me. 13:59.180 --> 13:59.980 You've been very thorough. 14:01.620 --> 14:02.720 Very, very thorough. 14:03.640 --> 14:06.620 Now I guess everybody's wondering, what are we talking about? 14:07.600 --> 14:12.460 Do you feel like maybe pulling back the veil and giving them a little bit? 14:14.840 --> 14:22.360 Well, I guess, Johnny, to summarize both of my books, you really, Johnny, 14:22.380 --> 14:25.180 would have to go back to the 16th century. 14:25.620 --> 14:36.420 Because the 16th century, Johnny, brought about two religious political 14:36.420 --> 14:45.380 movements that still are with us today, that still, Johnny, today are profoundly 14:45.380 --> 14:50.040 influencing and affecting this entire planet. 14:50.040 --> 14:55.060 And the two movements, Johnny, that I'm referring to, one is the one that 14:55.060 --> 15:01.420 began, basically, you know, as we look at history, we say that the Protestant 15:01.420 --> 15:08.320 Reformation began when Martin Luther stood at the Diet of Worms in 1521 before 15:08.320 --> 15:13.640 Charles V and all the Holy Roman Empire and said, you know, unless you can prove 15:13.640 --> 15:20.520 to me from Scripture or from the clearest of reasoning, he said, I cannot and I will 15:20.520 --> 15:21.240 not retract. 15:21.520 --> 15:22.300 Here I stand. 15:22.400 --> 15:23.400 I can do no other. 15:23.520 --> 15:24.480 May God help me. 15:24.580 --> 15:24.840 Amen. 15:25.610 --> 15:34.900 And, Johnny, when Martin Luther said those words, it literally, it set Europe ablaze 15:34.900 --> 15:42.980 because here was a man who was willing to stand up to the tyranny, to the tyranny 15:42.980 --> 15:48.140 and the evils of the Roman Catholic Church system. 15:48.140 --> 15:55.460 And, you know, Johnny, that Luther got something started and it continued in the 15:55.460 --> 15:58.280 1520s into the 1530s. 15:58.300 --> 16:00.100 And, of course, it's still with us today. 16:00.880 --> 16:09.880 But, Johnny, another group, as Luther and the Protestant Reformation that was coming 16:09.880 --> 16:17.860 from all over Europe, as it started out, Johnny, and just set Europe on fire. 16:18.140 --> 16:21.040 The Roman Catholic Church was tumbling. 16:21.500 --> 16:26.520 It was reeling and it was about to tumble and to die. 16:27.560 --> 16:35.500 And, Johnny, history tells us that in the mid 1530s, the Roman Catholic Church was 16:35.500 --> 16:40.760 looking for anything that it could hold on to, that it could grasp, that could 16:40.760 --> 16:45.600 somehow counter and oppose the Protestant Reformation. 16:46.460 --> 16:52.100 And it was at that time, Johnny, in the mid 1530s, that a man by the name 16:52.100 --> 16:59.220 of Ignatius Loyola created a society which he dubbed the Society of Jesus. 17:00.180 --> 17:06.160 And for some of us who are familiar with this group, which is still with us today, 17:06.560 --> 17:08.740 it's called the Jesuit Order. 17:11.000 --> 17:13.700 And, you know, a lot of people, Johnny, look at this... 17:13.700 --> 17:15.040 They're just a bunch of priests, aren't they? 17:15.660 --> 17:16.200 What's that? 17:17.080 --> 17:18.560 Aren't they just a bunch of priests? 17:19.780 --> 17:24.000 Well, Johnny, that's what a lot of people have been taught. 17:25.040 --> 17:29.480 But Napoleon Bonaparte, and I quote him in my book. 17:29.580 --> 17:31.800 Let me see if I can pull it off real quick here. 17:31.800 --> 17:36.740 Napoleon Bonaparte, now see here, here's an example, Johnny, of what we're 17:36.740 --> 17:37.200 saying. 17:37.780 --> 17:44.920 Napoleon Bonaparte was a, of course, a great French ruler in the 19th century. 17:46.620 --> 17:48.980 You know, a very, very famous man. 17:48.980 --> 17:50.260 Prominent figure from history. 17:51.060 --> 17:51.940 Oh, absolutely. 17:52.480 --> 17:58.180 Well, a book written by General Montelon called The Memorial of the Captivity of 17:58.180 --> 18:02.480 Napoleon at St. Helena, pages 62 and 174. 18:03.120 --> 18:06.900 This is what Napoleon Bonaparte said in this man's book. 18:07.280 --> 18:12.220 He said, the Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order. 18:12.220 --> 18:19.040 Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. 18:19.820 --> 18:23.060 And the aim of this organization is power. 18:23.600 --> 18:26.380 Power in its most despotic exercise. 18:26.740 --> 18:29.180 Absolute power, universal power. 18:29.860 --> 18:33.160 Power to control the world by the volition of a single man. 18:34.200 --> 18:39.180 Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms, and at the same time, 18:39.240 --> 18:42.880 the greatest and most enormous of abuses. 18:43.840 --> 18:48.380 The general of the Jesuits insists on being master sovereign over the sovereign. 18:49.020 --> 18:54.280 Wherever the Jesuits are admitted, they will be masters, cost what it may. 18:54.800 --> 18:58.180 It's a very important statement Bonaparte's making there, Johnny. 18:58.180 --> 19:04.680 When the Jesuits are allowed in a country, they will become the rulers. 19:05.720 --> 19:07.780 And it doesn't matter what the cost will be. 19:07.980 --> 19:13.400 If men in their order must die, if there must be wars, if there must be 19:13.400 --> 19:20.940 depressions, if there must be economic collapse, if there must be disasters, 19:21.540 --> 19:23.180 if there must be assassinations. 19:24.220 --> 19:25.980 It makes no difference, Johnny. 19:26.680 --> 19:30.740 Those things will happen until the Jesuits... 19:30.740 --> 19:31.720 Do you think they're at work today? 19:32.710 --> 19:34.620 Oh, Johnny, there's no doubt about it. 19:34.660 --> 19:36.140 There's no doubt about it. 19:36.280 --> 19:40.020 In so many different capacities, Johnny. 19:41.640 --> 19:48.540 And, you know, let me... well, I would just go ahead and answer it. 19:48.560 --> 19:49.220 You've asked. 19:49.220 --> 19:55.360 Johnny, there's so many secret organizations today, and I'll give you a 19:55.360 --> 19:58.620 prime illustration of what I'm talking about. 19:59.100 --> 20:05.760 Back in 2004, there was a presidential election here in the United States of 20:05.760 --> 20:06.300 America. 20:07.060 --> 20:12.920 The Republican candidate for the presidency at that time was George Bush. 20:13.720 --> 20:17.640 His Democratic counterpart was a man by the name of John Kerry. 20:17.640 --> 20:26.060 Now, Americans were told, you have two men running for office. 20:26.180 --> 20:28.040 One's a Republican, one's a Democrat. 20:28.300 --> 20:34.980 They each are promoting a different agenda, and you have a choice as to who 20:34.980 --> 20:37.920 you want to be in the White House for the next four years. 20:37.920 --> 20:46.100 Well, doing a little bit of research about both men, and it was very common knowledge 20:46.100 --> 20:51.480 back at the time they were running, both of those men were part of and had 20:51.480 --> 20:58.680 been initiated into an order of men when they were at Yale University, and it was 20:58.680 --> 21:00.920 called the Order of Skull and Bones. 21:02.300 --> 21:08.300 Well, in doing a little bit of research about skull and bones, skull and bones was 21:08.300 --> 21:15.080 actually created at Yale University in 1831 or 1832 by a man named William 21:15.080 --> 21:16.260 Huntington Russell. 21:17.040 --> 21:23.920 And Russell, prior to forming the Order of Skull and Bones at Yale in 1832, 21:24.400 --> 21:30.080 he had been traveling in Germany and throughout Europe, and he had gone to 21:30.080 --> 21:37.780 several secret society meetings over there, and one of them, it was called the 21:37.780 --> 21:46.320 Thule Death Society, and that was a part of the Illuminati. 21:47.500 --> 21:56.080 So, then when you look at the rise of the Illuminati and who it was that formed the 21:56.080 --> 22:00.880 Illuminati back in the 18th century, it was created by a man named Adam 22:00.880 --> 22:01.600 Weishaupt. 22:02.960 --> 22:04.740 Now, was he not a Jesuit? 22:06.060 --> 22:07.480 Absolutely, he was. 22:07.900 --> 22:14.260 As I quote in my book, The Enemy Unmasked, Adam Weishaupt created the Illuminati in 22:14.260 --> 22:15.320 1776. 22:16.320 --> 22:23.980 Right at the very time, just prior to the American Revolution beginning in July of 22:23.980 --> 22:26.980 1776 with the Declaration of Independence. 22:27.940 --> 22:37.020 But Weishaupt was teaching Roman Catholic canon law at a Jesuit university in 22:37.020 --> 22:45.100 Bavaria, Germany, which was the Jesuit stronghold in Germany in Bavaria. 22:45.100 --> 22:51.580 And the principles of the Illuminati, if you study the principles of the 22:51.580 --> 22:56.340 Illuminati and the principles of the Jesuits, they are virtually identical. 22:57.220 --> 23:03.460 Adam Weishaupt was nothing but a foot soldier for the black Pope at that time, 23:03.580 --> 23:06.040 whose name was Lorenzo Risi. 23:06.920 --> 23:14.640 So, here you have Johnny, you have the Jesuit Order, they created the Illuminati 23:14.640 --> 23:16.240 as a front organization. 23:16.920 --> 23:23.940 The Illuminati then creates the Sewell Death Society in Germany, and then through 23:23.940 --> 23:29.580 William Huntington Russell, it creates another front organization at Yale 23:29.580 --> 23:32.480 University called the Order of Skull and Bones. 23:32.480 --> 23:39.160 And all the young men who are initiated into the Order of Skull and Bones at Yale 23:39.160 --> 23:47.520 University, they have to bow in absolute obeisance to three figures in their 23:47.520 --> 23:48.220 initiation. 23:48.780 --> 23:53.400 The first figure, Johnny, is the head of the Masonic Order. 23:53.840 --> 23:59.730 The second figure is a man who is a figure for the white Pope. 23:59.730 --> 24:05.790 And what I mean by the white Pope is the visible Pope that everybody sees. 24:05.890 --> 24:08.030 In this case, it would be Benedict XVI. 24:08.690 --> 24:17.430 The other caricature or figure that every person must bow in absolute obedience to 24:17.430 --> 24:23.470 in taking their initiation is the Jesuit General, or the black Pope. 24:26.410 --> 24:29.550 Get ready for this interview. 24:29.730 --> 24:36.590 I've tried to do a little bit of research on my own, and what I've found is I think 24:36.590 --> 24:40.490 the current black Pope is a man named Adolfo Pachaz. 24:41.530 --> 24:43.190 Is that correct, or have they changed? 24:44.050 --> 24:49.130 The man I've heard, Johnny, recently was Nicholas Adolphus. 24:49.550 --> 24:53.190 He took over for Peter Hans Kolvenbach. 24:59.010 --> 25:02.030 Nicholas Adolphus, as far as I know. 25:02.030 --> 25:03.970 Adolphus, okay, let me write that down. 25:04.990 --> 25:11.710 But man, some of the stuff that I found just grazing the surface of this study 25:11.710 --> 25:15.890 about the Jesuits, they've been linked to assassinations of American presidents, 25:16.530 --> 25:24.270 the formation of the Federal Reserve, professional football teams, world wars, 25:26.170 --> 25:27.850 what else? 25:27.850 --> 25:33.530 Paris attacks, anything from the World Trade Center to the Pearl Harbor. 25:33.730 --> 25:37.890 I mean, if it's true, these guys have had their hands in everything. 25:38.930 --> 25:44.910 Johnny, as Napoleon Bonaparte said when they come into a country, and I'll read it 25:44.910 --> 25:45.330 again. 25:46.150 --> 25:53.090 It says, wherever the Jesuits are admitted, they will be the masters, 25:54.010 --> 25:55.450 cost what it may. 25:56.410 --> 26:03.130 Their society is by nature dictatorial, therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy 26:03.130 --> 26:05.290 of all constituted authority. 26:05.290 --> 26:11.950 Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work. 26:13.630 --> 26:17.450 You know, I've read that they were linked to the sinking of the Titanic. 26:18.870 --> 26:20.470 Johnny, there's no doubt. 26:22.010 --> 26:26.270 From Pearl Harbor, and we could go into each one of those things. 26:26.370 --> 26:33.990 Johnny, you mentioned assassinations of American presidents, you mentioned the 26:33.990 --> 26:39.610 Twin Towers in 9-11, you mentioned Pearl Harbor, and the sinking of the Titanic. 26:39.610 --> 26:46.570 And Johnny, you know, however you want to go, but we could look at each one of those 26:46.570 --> 26:52.070 things and show beyond a shadow of a doubt, beyond a shadow of a doubt, 26:52.750 --> 27:00.470 the involvement of and the perpetration of all of those heinous crimes against 27:00.470 --> 27:05.190 humanity lay at the footsteps of the Jesuit order. 27:05.370 --> 27:06.070 There's no doubt. 27:06.690 --> 27:11.430 Well, maybe you could give us just a peek at maybe some assassinations, the Titanic, 27:11.910 --> 27:14.730 and the World Trade Center. 27:15.710 --> 27:16.830 That's fine, Johnny. 27:18.050 --> 27:21.710 Actually, I even heard they were involved in the BP oil spill. 27:24.210 --> 27:32.610 Johnny, that I cannot conclusively say, to be very, very frank with you. 27:32.710 --> 27:39.330 I know that there were some Roman Catholics that were involved in the higher 27:39.330 --> 27:46.970 echelons of the BP oil company, but exactly, Johnny... 27:46.970 --> 27:50.370 We're not saying that Roman Catholics are bad people, are we? 27:51.210 --> 27:57.230 Johnny, this has nothing to do, this has absolutely nothing to do with 27:57.230 --> 27:59.650 individual Roman Catholic people. 28:00.630 --> 28:10.430 There are precious, devout, loving Roman Catholics that love Jesus Christ and are 28:10.430 --> 28:15.350 following and living up to all the light that he has given to them. 28:15.450 --> 28:19.290 So, no, we're not talking about individual Roman Catholics at all. 28:19.290 --> 28:22.450 What we're dealing with here, Johnny, is a system. 28:23.190 --> 28:33.670 A system of men that, behind the scenes, plan things and then use various men to 28:33.670 --> 28:35.850 carry out their dastardly deeds. 28:37.130 --> 28:38.710 Off times they have scapegoats. 28:39.030 --> 28:39.970 What's that? 28:40.690 --> 28:44.850 I said, off times they seem to have scapegoats or blame somebody else for it. 28:45.650 --> 28:50.130 Well, Johnny, that's what my book, The Enemy Unmasked, is all about. 28:51.810 --> 28:58.150 Because when you look at, Johnny, for example, you look at communism. 28:58.450 --> 29:00.870 Let's just take that here just briefly. 29:02.190 --> 29:06.590 Most people, Johnny, would say, well, communism was the result of Karl 29:06.590 --> 29:09.850 Marx's book, The Communist Manifesto, written around 1850. 29:10.850 --> 29:21.610 And then from Karl Marx, Vladimir Ulyanov, or Nikolai Lenin, he's the same name, 29:22.170 --> 29:26.710 and Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong in China. 29:27.210 --> 29:33.690 These guys picked up the principles of Karl Marx, and they made the 20th century 29:33.690 --> 29:35.790 a bloodbath in Russia and China. 29:35.790 --> 29:40.730 And so, you know, Johnny, you look at it and you say, well, you know, Lenin and 29:40.730 --> 29:44.790 Stalin and Mao Zedong, they were such evil and awful men. 29:45.290 --> 29:49.970 And so was Karl Marx for creating a communistic form of government. 29:50.410 --> 29:59.630 Well, Johnny, if you go back, if you go back to the 1600s, Johnny, it's historical 29:59.630 --> 30:08.450 fact, it's historical fact, that Jesuit priests started some reductions or small 30:08.450 --> 30:15.970 communities with the Guarani Indians in Paraguay in the 1600s. 30:16.710 --> 30:25.050 And Johnny, it was on those reductions that the Jesuit order perfected the 30:25.050 --> 30:27.750 principles of communism. 30:28.950 --> 30:34.350 And Johnny, it was from those communist reductions in Paraguay with the Guarani 30:34.350 --> 30:39.450 Indians that the Jesuit order made billions of dollars, billions of dollars, 30:39.590 --> 30:44.990 to fight their wars, to assassinate kings, to bribe people to do what they wanted 30:44.990 --> 30:45.670 them to do. 30:45.970 --> 30:47.530 It's a fact of history, Johnny. 30:48.090 --> 30:55.910 Now, what happened was from around 1600 to 1750, the Jesuits perfected those 30:55.910 --> 30:56.470 principles. 30:57.130 --> 31:03.990 Those principles, Johnny, were then incorporated into the Illuminati by Jesuit 31:03.990 --> 31:05.890 foot soldier Adam Weishaupt. 31:05.890 --> 31:15.170 Then, right around the time of the French Revolution in the 1790s, the principles of 31:15.170 --> 31:19.190 communism were used in the French Revolution. 31:20.050 --> 31:26.090 And it was right during that time that a group called Jacobins, or the League of 31:26.090 --> 31:33.130 Just Men, they started to put together the ideas of the Communist Manifesto. 31:33.130 --> 31:40.090 And, Johnny, by the mid-1800s, when Karl Marx wrote that book, 31:40.850 --> 31:49.250 the principles and the actual book had already been written, and Karl Marx's name 31:49.250 --> 31:50.850 was simply put on it. 31:51.390 --> 32:01.190 But, Johnny, communism is the result of the Jesuit reductions in Paraguay. 32:01.190 --> 32:07.930 And that's the reason we're seeing kind of a shift towards socialism and communism in 32:07.930 --> 32:08.650 America now? 32:09.150 --> 32:10.510 Absolutely, Johnny. 32:10.510 --> 32:18.490 Because, see, Johnny, socialism or communism, it's the perfect style of 32:18.490 --> 32:27.970 government for authoritarian tyrants who want to control, absolute control, 32:28.450 --> 32:31.370 over every human being on the face of the earth. 32:31.370 --> 32:36.790 And, you see, Johnny, in a socialist or communist form of government, the 32:36.790 --> 32:43.790 government gets more and more and more control, and government is controlled by a 32:43.790 --> 32:44.570 few people. 32:45.110 --> 32:49.390 And they, in turn, control all the masses of people. 32:49.390 --> 32:55.810 And it makes it so simple, Johnny, for the Jesuit order to rule over a 32:55.810 --> 33:00.450 country that is communistic or socialistic, because all they've got to do 33:00.450 --> 33:04.410 is control a few men, and then they control the entire nation. 33:05.070 --> 33:07.610 And that's why America is going the way it is today. 33:08.430 --> 33:13.630 Now, Johnny, if you want to get back, you asked about assassinations of 33:13.630 --> 33:19.210 presidents, you asked about 9-11, you asked about the Titanic. 33:19.450 --> 33:21.790 We can get into all those at this point now. 33:22.750 --> 33:23.610 Yes, please. 33:23.650 --> 33:24.770 This is very fascinating. 33:25.450 --> 33:32.750 Johnny, there have been several American presidents that have been assassinated. 33:33.750 --> 33:39.290 Now, the ones that we always start with, we say, well, you know, the first 33:39.290 --> 33:46.830 assassination was Abraham Lincoln in April of 1865, right on the heels of the 33:46.830 --> 33:48.950 finishing of the Civil War. 33:49.610 --> 33:54.030 And, of course, Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth in Ford's Theater, 33:54.210 --> 34:00.090 Washington, D.C., April 14 or 15 of 1865. 34:00.090 --> 34:04.990 And then, of course, we say, you know, in 1881, James A. 34:05.170 --> 34:15.010 Garfield was gunned down, and then in 1901, William McKinley was gunned down, 34:15.410 --> 34:17.850 and then in 1963, John F. 34:18.010 --> 34:19.210 Kennedy was gunned down. 34:19.210 --> 34:24.250 And that's true, Johnny, all of those men were shot and killed. 34:24.890 --> 34:32.610 However, Johnny, and I mention this in my book, The Secret Terrorist, that the first 34:32.610 --> 34:38.350 man who almost was assassinated as a president was Andrew Jackson. 34:38.350 --> 34:44.210 Now, Andrew Jackson, as well as any and every American president, Johnny, 34:44.770 --> 34:45.930 they had problems. 34:46.210 --> 34:47.650 They were not perfect men. 34:48.210 --> 34:55.210 Andrew Jackson, of course, was one of the men who led many of the Indian tribes out 34:55.210 --> 35:02.130 of the South and on their terrible trail of tears that ended up in the reservations 35:02.130 --> 35:05.670 of Oklahoma and the Midwest. 35:05.670 --> 35:08.790 So, Andrew Jackson was not an angel. 35:09.590 --> 35:11.630 So, let's make that clear right off. 35:11.870 --> 35:22.450 However, Andrew Jackson, he put his presidency on the line when, in the early 35:22.450 --> 35:28.810 1830s, he went head-to-head with the head of the Federal Reserve at that time, 35:28.890 --> 35:30.650 a man by the name of Nicholas Biddle. 35:30.650 --> 35:39.050 And Nicholas Biddle wanted to reestablish the charter for the Federal Reserve Bank 35:39.050 --> 35:44.230 that had been started right after the War of 1812. 35:45.210 --> 35:50.570 And Andrew Jackson said, no way, the Federal Reserve Bank is destroying 35:50.570 --> 35:51.250 America. 35:51.710 --> 35:55.590 It's in the hands of a few wealthy and powerful men in Europe. 35:55.590 --> 35:58.250 It has nothing to do with America. 35:58.790 --> 36:02.190 All it wants to do is enslave America economically. 36:03.030 --> 36:04.610 So, Andrew Jackson said, no. 36:05.530 --> 36:09.590 And so, Nicholas Biddle and Andrew Jackson went at each other's throats. 36:10.510 --> 36:17.030 And if Nicholas Biddle had not become so arrogant, Johnny, he probably would have 36:17.030 --> 36:19.210 gotten Jackson out of office. 36:19.210 --> 36:28.030 But, the fact is, Andrew Jackson won that battle with Biddle, and he stopped the 36:28.030 --> 36:30.630 reestablishment of the Federal Reserve Bank. 36:31.390 --> 36:37.750 Well, right on the heels of that, in 1835, a man by the name of Richard 36:37.750 --> 36:41.470 Lawrence tried to kill Andrew Jackson. 36:41.470 --> 36:48.110 And Richard Lawrence was promised by wealthy, powerful people in Europe, 36:48.210 --> 36:53.430 and I quoted in my book, The Secret Terrorist, he was told, if you get caught, 36:54.190 --> 36:57.490 we will be sure that you are set free. 36:59.410 --> 37:03.250 Well, Johnny, the thing you have to ask yourself is this. 37:03.450 --> 37:11.130 Number one, who was it, who were the wealthy, powerful people in Europe that 37:11.130 --> 37:14.470 told Richard Lawrence to kill Andrew Jackson? 37:14.470 --> 37:20.950 Well, it's those same wealthy, powerful people that told Richard Lawrence 37:20.950 --> 37:23.650 that, that encouraged him to kill Jackson. 37:23.990 --> 37:29.810 These were the same wealthy, powerful people that were behind and controlling 37:29.810 --> 37:32.170 the Central Bank in the United States. 37:32.170 --> 37:37.110 And as I quote repeatedly in my book, The Secret Terrorist, the Rothschild 37:37.110 --> 37:45.970 family of Europe is that powerful banking family that controlled the Central Bank. 37:46.170 --> 37:47.310 They are like the traitors of the Vatican, aren't they? 37:48.010 --> 37:49.190 Absolutely, they are. 37:49.390 --> 37:49.670 From F. 37:49.750 --> 37:56.170 Tupper Sasse's book, Rulers of Evil, page 161, Sasse says that he looked up in 37:56.170 --> 38:03.710 the Encyclopedia Judaica, the name Rothschild, and it said, these men are the 38:03.710 --> 38:06.710 guardians of the Vatican's treasury. 38:07.710 --> 38:14.610 So, the Rothschilds and the Jesuit order in the Catholic Church work hand in hand. 38:15.310 --> 38:18.390 And where the Rothschilds are, the Jesuits are. 38:18.830 --> 38:21.990 Where the Rothschilds are, the Catholic Church is. 38:22.990 --> 38:29.350 So, they wanted to have a Central Bank in America so they could control the flow of 38:29.350 --> 38:29.730 money. 38:30.530 --> 38:38.250 As Mayor Amschel Rothschild once said, he said, I just believe in the golden 38:38.250 --> 38:38.730 rule. 38:39.550 --> 38:42.730 The one who has the gold makes the rules. 38:43.730 --> 38:49.550 And that's what they sought to do in the United States with the establishment of a 38:49.550 --> 38:50.270 Central Bank. 38:50.630 --> 38:56.090 When Andrew Jackson stood in their way and said there will be no Central Bank in this 38:56.090 --> 39:02.670 country, the Rothschilds were furious, Nicholas Biddle was furious, the Jesuit 39:02.670 --> 39:08.270 order was furious, so they got Richard Lawrence to try to kill Andrew Jackson in 39:08.270 --> 39:09.190 1835. 39:09.190 --> 39:10.550 It's a fact of history. 39:12.370 --> 39:20.270 Now, you come up five years later, the man who won the election of 1840, 39:20.650 --> 39:22.650 his name was William Henry Harrison. 39:23.670 --> 39:29.610 Now, we have to understand, and most people that understand a little bit about 39:29.610 --> 39:36.970 American history understand, that it was at this time, in the 1830s and the 1840s, 39:37.010 --> 39:42.310 that Americans were starting to get agitated over the issue of slavery. 39:42.310 --> 39:49.010 And one man in particular who was really agitating it was a South Carolina 39:49.010 --> 39:52.170 politician by the name of John C. 39:52.410 --> 39:52.770 Calhoun. 39:53.750 --> 40:00.510 And Calhoun was saying that blacks have no rights that white men should respect. 40:00.510 --> 40:02.550 And John C. 40:02.630 --> 40:08.190 Calhoun was telling the people of South Carolina that if they were not being 40:08.190 --> 40:15.190 treated fairly among the representative states, that the people of South Carolina 40:15.190 --> 40:17.690 had every right to secede from the Union. 40:19.930 --> 40:25.930 Well, William Henry Harrison gets into office in 1840, gives his inaugural 40:25.930 --> 40:31.850 address, he's a 67-year-old man, but he's as healthy as a whippersnapper, 40:32.510 --> 40:37.410 and he gets up in his inaugural address, and I quote it in my book, The Secret 40:37.410 --> 40:39.330 Terrorist, let me see if I can find it real quick. 40:40.270 --> 40:42.350 Fascinating statement that he makes. 40:44.210 --> 40:45.530 Yeah, here it is. 40:46.090 --> 40:50.290 This was from William Henry Harrison's inaugural address. 40:50.390 --> 40:51.130 He said this. 41:14.010 --> 41:19.470 Now, those words for us today, we say, well, big deal. 41:20.130 --> 41:21.070 Who cares? 41:22.350 --> 41:23.450 What's the difference? 41:23.550 --> 41:26.210 He's just saying that we're all created equal. 41:26.770 --> 41:30.430 Well, I believe that, you believe that, so what's the issue? 41:30.430 --> 41:37.430 Well, William Henry Harrison said we admit of no government by divine right. 41:38.350 --> 41:42.910 Now, what did he mean by the divine right? 41:43.790 --> 41:49.130 Johnny, throughout the Dark Ages, the Roman Catholic Church believed that 41:49.130 --> 41:58.090 every king that ruled throughout Europe, they were there because of the order of 41:58.090 --> 41:59.050 divine right. 42:00.430 --> 42:06.230 The Catholic Church, because they claim that the Pope is the vicar of Christ, 42:06.710 --> 42:16.290 or the representative of God on earth, they claimed that every ruler ruled their 42:16.290 --> 42:22.470 nation because God, through the Pope, gave it to them. 42:22.470 --> 42:32.370 And because they were put into office by God through the Pope, those kings had to 42:32.370 --> 42:36.670 do exactly as the Pope dictated. 42:37.470 --> 42:39.990 Now, is that a big deal? 42:39.990 --> 42:45.850 Well, you go back to England in the 16th century, during the time of Queen 42:45.850 --> 42:46.370 Elizabeth. 42:47.250 --> 42:51.410 She ruled from 1558 to 1603 in England. 42:51.890 --> 42:58.150 When Queen Elizabeth came into power in England, the Pope at that time, 42:58.230 --> 43:06.530 he said, look, if Elizabeth will make herself and her kingdom a slave or a fife 43:06.530 --> 43:09.970 of the Holy See, then everything will be fine. 43:09.990 --> 43:11.310 We'll get along well. 43:12.050 --> 43:15.190 But if she doesn't, all hell will break loose. 43:16.070 --> 43:23.650 And Johnny, history records for us in a book called The Babington Plot by W.E.C. 43:23.810 --> 43:24.250 Shepard. 43:24.690 --> 43:25.970 Fantastic book. 43:25.970 --> 43:32.890 In that book, that man shows that there were at least 10 to 12 assassination 43:32.890 --> 43:38.250 attempts on the life of Queen Elizabeth during her reign. 43:38.910 --> 43:44.850 And because the Jesuit order in the Catholic Church did not succeed in killing 43:44.850 --> 43:54.950 Elizabeth, they got Philip II of Spain in 1580 to build the most powerful fleet of 43:54.950 --> 43:55.950 ships this world has ever seen. 43:56.830 --> 43:58.890 Do you know what they were called? 44:00.070 --> 44:00.810 What was it? 44:01.410 --> 44:03.270 It's called the Spanish Armada. 44:04.950 --> 44:07.390 I do remember reading about the Spanish Armada. 44:07.990 --> 44:14.930 Well, the reason the Armada was built, Johnny, was so that the Catholic Church, 44:15.190 --> 44:20.830 through their children in Spain, could go right up the western side of 44:20.830 --> 44:29.070 Europe and invade England and take it over, kill Elizabeth, and turn England 44:29.070 --> 44:33.850 back into a slave of the Catholic Church. 44:35.150 --> 44:35.650 Incredible. 44:36.930 --> 44:40.750 They're associated with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, too, aren't they? 44:41.310 --> 44:42.450 Absolutely, Johnny. 44:43.060 --> 44:55.090 Abraham Lincoln believed that black men deserved to have freedom. 44:56.650 --> 45:04.710 And Abraham Lincoln believed in what the Declaration of Independence and the 45:04.710 --> 45:06.150 Constitution said. 45:06.990 --> 45:12.490 Abraham Lincoln believed that we were created equal, and that every man had the 45:12.490 --> 45:15.250 right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. 45:15.930 --> 45:20.110 Before Abraham Lincoln ever got to Washington, it's a fact of history, 45:20.690 --> 45:23.470 as he was going to Washington, D.C. 45:23.530 --> 45:30.750 there in 1860, 1861, there was a Catholic mob waiting in Baltimore, Maryland, 45:31.390 --> 45:36.730 that when Lincoln would get off the train to take a break, they were going to stab 45:36.730 --> 45:37.430 him to death. 45:38.570 --> 45:40.270 But, of course, that never happened. 45:40.450 --> 45:42.270 Lincoln went on to the White House. 45:43.170 --> 45:51.470 And Lincoln's desire to keep the states together, the papacy hated that. 45:51.470 --> 45:57.270 What the Catholic Church and the Jesuit Order wanted with the Civil War was to 45:57.270 --> 46:06.190 split this nation in half so that both sides would be weakened by their disunity. 46:07.230 --> 46:11.710 And by them being split in half, the Catholic Church could control both 46:11.710 --> 46:12.230 sides. 46:13.160 --> 46:15.970 And Lincoln kept the states together. 46:16.350 --> 46:24.690 Of course, the 11 southern states seceded, but Lincoln strove with all he had to get 46:24.690 --> 46:30.580 the southern states back into the Union so that there could be the United States. 46:31.970 --> 46:35.750 Well, now, they hated Lincoln long before that, too, didn't they? 46:36.330 --> 46:37.130 What's that, Johnny? 46:38.310 --> 46:42.630 Didn't the Jesuit Order hate Lincoln prior to his becoming president? 46:43.250 --> 46:46.610 Because I was reading something about a priest named Charles Chenequay. 46:47.270 --> 46:48.510 Absolutely, Johnny. 46:48.610 --> 46:54.070 Back in the middle of the 1850s, there was a Catholic priest who wrote a 46:54.070 --> 47:00.390 fantastic book called Fifty Years in the Church of Rome by Charles Chenequay. 47:00.390 --> 47:03.630 And Charles Chenequay was a Catholic priest. 47:05.150 --> 47:07.330 He did not drink alcohol. 47:07.670 --> 47:12.150 He was the Apostle of Temperance for Canada, for the Catholic Churches in 47:12.150 --> 47:12.630 Canada. 47:12.970 --> 47:19.610 And he would go throughout the Catholic Churches of Canada and encourage the 47:19.610 --> 47:21.490 Catholic people to not drink. 47:22.230 --> 47:27.590 Well, that was fine for the people, but then when Chenequay would go to 47:27.590 --> 47:34.630 meetings of the priests and they would be sitting at the table just guzzling bottles 47:34.630 --> 47:37.750 of alcohol, Chenequay would not be drinking. 47:38.230 --> 47:48.150 And this became very, very upsetting to many of the leading Catholic cardinals and 47:48.150 --> 47:52.610 bishops in Chicago, especially Chicago and St. Louis. 47:52.930 --> 48:01.810 So what they did was they bribed one of the priest's sisters to accuse Chenequay 48:01.810 --> 48:05.830 of trying to solicit sex from her. 48:06.730 --> 48:12.910 And Chenequay was put on trial and it appeared as though he was going to be 48:12.910 --> 48:15.590 sentenced to the penitentiary for life. 48:16.530 --> 48:23.270 But some men said to Charles Chenequay, they said, you know, you've got one hope 48:23.270 --> 48:29.590 and one hope alone, and that's from a lawyer in Illinois that can help you. 48:29.770 --> 48:31.670 And Chenequay said, well, who is he? 48:32.070 --> 48:34.310 And they said the man's name is Abe Lincoln. 48:34.310 --> 48:42.790 And so Lincoln came and helped Chenequay and through a miracle of God, a person 48:42.790 --> 48:50.250 came forward and showed that the lady who accused Chenequay was lying and Chenequay 48:50.250 --> 48:50.970 was let go. 48:51.730 --> 48:56.870 And as Lincoln and Chenequay left the courthouse that day, Chenequay started to 48:56.870 --> 49:00.830 weep and Abraham Lincoln looked at him and said, Mr. Chenequay, you should be 49:00.830 --> 49:02.750 thrilled, you're a free man. 49:03.830 --> 49:10.110 Chenequay said, Mr. Lincoln, my tears are not for me, they're for you, because in 49:10.110 --> 49:16.850 this courthouse today I saw 10 to 12 Jesuit priests from Chicago and St. Louis 49:16.850 --> 49:20.490 and I read the sentence of your death in their eyes. 49:21.910 --> 49:28.510 So before Lincoln ever got to the White House, Johnny, he was a marked man. 49:29.570 --> 49:41.310 And finally, right around 1863-1864, people started gathering in a home of a 49:41.310 --> 49:46.170 devout Roman Catholic woman by the name of Mary Surratt, right there in Washington, 49:46.410 --> 49:46.890 D.C. 49:48.630 --> 49:53.330 And that was where his assassination was planned, wasn't it? 49:53.890 --> 49:55.170 That's exactly right, Johnny. 49:55.390 --> 49:56.610 That's exactly right. 49:56.950 --> 50:01.170 And it wasn't just Lincoln, Johnny, who they wanted to kill that night. 50:01.910 --> 50:05.250 They wanted to kill Andrew Johnson, the Vice President. 50:05.250 --> 50:09.210 They wanted to kill William Seward, the Secretary of State. 50:09.810 --> 50:12.370 And they wanted to also kill Ulysses S. 50:12.470 --> 50:17.230 Grant, who was then the Commander-in-Chief of the Northern Forces of the Union Army. 50:18.030 --> 50:21.250 Of course, Lincoln was shot and killed. 50:21.930 --> 50:26.650 Andrew Johnson survived the night. 50:27.150 --> 50:33.570 William Seward was nearly stabbed to death by a man named Louis Payne, who was part 50:33.570 --> 50:34.610 of the conspiracy. 50:35.570 --> 50:37.210 And William Seward survived. 50:37.210 --> 50:38.530 Ulysses S. 50:38.630 --> 50:44.450 Grant had to go out of town to New Jersey on a train, so he was not killed either. 50:44.810 --> 50:49.450 But it wasn't just a desire to kill Lincoln, Johnny. 50:49.610 --> 50:56.110 It was an attempt in one night to completely destroy the governmental 50:56.110 --> 51:03.830 structure of the United States government and to create total chaos in Washington, 51:04.010 --> 51:04.450 D.C. 51:04.450 --> 51:08.050 And that's what the Jesuit Order tried to do. 51:09.470 --> 51:13.510 Well, we're starting to run out of time, and we haven't even scratched the surface 51:13.510 --> 51:15.430 of all the questions I've got for you. 51:15.830 --> 51:20.390 So let me hit just a couple of them, if you don't mind. 51:20.890 --> 51:26.650 Now, have you ever read anything about the Jesuit Order and the formation of the 51:26.650 --> 51:27.830 Islamic religion? 51:30.170 --> 51:31.650 Yes, I have, Johnny. 51:36.870 --> 51:39.430 Or is that going to be too detailed to get into tonight? 51:40.170 --> 51:42.650 Well, Johnny, we could do it real quickly. 51:43.530 --> 51:51.990 You go back, Johnny, to the 4th, 5th, 6th centuries. 51:52.950 --> 51:59.070 The papacy has risen up to power right around 538 A.D. 51:59.190 --> 52:01.710 through the Decree of Justinian. 52:02.410 --> 52:11.670 And a goal, Johnny, a goal that the Catholic Church had for centuries was to 52:11.670 --> 52:13.630 take over Jerusalem. 52:14.350 --> 52:22.310 Because the Pope saw Jerusalem as the 24-carat gold city of the world. 52:23.670 --> 52:25.330 They still have the eye on it, don't they? 52:25.850 --> 52:27.150 Oh, absolutely, Johnny. 52:27.370 --> 52:28.470 They still do today. 52:28.470 --> 52:34.090 And that's one of their goals, is to take it over and to bring the Pope 52:34.090 --> 52:36.210 there to rule the world from Jerusalem. 52:38.330 --> 52:42.910 So they wanted desperately, Johnny, to gain control of Jerusalem. 52:44.070 --> 52:49.290 But there were Christians there, and of course there were very devout Jews 52:49.290 --> 52:50.690 there in Jerusalem. 52:51.450 --> 52:57.750 So they said, now how are we going to get the Jews and the Christians out of 52:57.750 --> 52:59.330 Jerusalem and out of Israel? 53:00.150 --> 53:05.930 So they looked around, Johnny, and they saw all of these Arabs in 53:05.930 --> 53:12.050 northern Africa and in the Middle East, just hordes of Arabs, nomads. 53:12.050 --> 53:21.430 And they said, if we could unite all of these Arabs under one man, we could then 53:21.430 --> 53:22.750 create an army. 53:22.950 --> 53:27.510 We could man their army, we could feed them, we could provide them the weapons 53:27.510 --> 53:28.470 they would need. 53:30.050 --> 53:38.530 And so, Johnny, what they did was they got a very, very wealthy Catholic woman who 53:38.530 --> 53:40.170 had gone into a convent. 53:40.910 --> 53:43.790 Her husband had died, she was left a fortune. 53:44.290 --> 53:46.230 She gave the fortune to the church. 53:46.310 --> 53:51.590 She was a very intelligent woman, and of course very wealthy, but she went 53:51.590 --> 53:52.670 into this convent. 53:53.330 --> 53:55.350 While she was there, they took her out. 53:55.390 --> 53:56.470 Her name was Khadija. 53:57.170 --> 54:00.650 And they said, Khadija, we have a mission for you. 54:01.830 --> 54:08.930 We have a man that we are raising up in the Middle East, and we want you to go and 54:08.930 --> 54:09.690 marry him. 54:09.690 --> 54:16.390 And through your influence, and through the influence of others, we want to use 54:16.390 --> 54:25.490 him to become the unifying factor in unifying all of the Arab peoples together 54:25.490 --> 54:26.930 into one group. 54:28.050 --> 54:32.730 And Johnny, the man who Khadija married was a man by the name of Mohammed. 54:33.630 --> 54:43.010 And Mohammed, in the late 6th and into the 7th century, united all the Arabs 54:43.010 --> 54:43.590 together. 54:44.410 --> 54:51.310 And then, Johnny, through a series of crusades, the Arabs went in and attacked 54:51.310 --> 54:51.970 Jerusalem. 54:52.430 --> 55:00.130 And by about the 9th century, they had driven the Jews and the Christians out of 55:00.130 --> 55:02.450 Jerusalem and had gained control of it. 55:03.190 --> 55:08.130 And at that point, the Pope then turned to the Arab generals and said, now, 55:08.210 --> 55:09.610 give me Jerusalem. 55:10.190 --> 55:15.170 We gave you the weapons, we gave you the manpower, we fed you, we took care of you, 55:15.550 --> 55:17.750 now you give us what we wanted. 55:18.850 --> 55:22.370 Well, Johnny, at that time, the Arab generals had become so powerful, 55:22.490 --> 55:25.410 they looked and they said, look, you want it? 55:25.910 --> 55:27.110 You come and get it. 55:27.910 --> 55:36.150 And Johnny, that's why for the next 600 or 700 years, Catholic mercenaries were going 55:36.150 --> 55:42.890 repeatedly across Europe over to Jerusalem to try to drive the Arabs out of 55:42.890 --> 55:43.450 Jerusalem. 55:44.050 --> 55:49.790 The crusades were fought because the Arabs said no to the Pope. 55:50.770 --> 56:02.030 So that, Johnny, that's how Catholicism created Islam and they were the ones that 56:02.030 --> 56:02.710 started it. 56:04.070 --> 56:10.250 They still have quite a few links today, without going into too much detail. 56:10.550 --> 56:13.130 There's a lot of similarities between the two. 56:14.010 --> 56:19.390 And I know that one of the people who helped Muhammad interpret his visions was 56:19.390 --> 56:21.970 a man named Warakwai, who was a Catholic. 56:23.630 --> 56:24.110 Absolutely. 56:24.110 --> 56:25.370 I don't know if you've ever read that. 56:25.870 --> 56:27.050 Yes, I have, Johnny. 56:27.510 --> 56:28.250 Yes, I have. 56:28.270 --> 56:30.950 And the two are still linked very closely today. 56:31.150 --> 56:35.170 People may think they're at war together, but, I mean, I've done, I've tried to do 56:35.170 --> 56:40.530 my research on this since I read this book, and, man, it's amazing how close 56:40.530 --> 56:41.310 they are together. 56:41.310 --> 56:43.930 They're not the enemies everybody thinks they are. 56:44.250 --> 56:45.750 Not at all, Johnny. 56:45.870 --> 56:57.450 In fact, Johnny, all of the major leaders of Islam today, from the man in Iran to 56:57.450 --> 57:05.170 Saddam Hussein when he was in Iraq, to the Hassads in Syria, Johnny, 57:05.870 --> 57:11.750 all of those top men have been and are 33rd degree Masons. 57:12.850 --> 57:19.470 And as Alberto Rivera said in his studies when he was studying to be a Jesuit 57:19.470 --> 57:29.370 priest, he said that he found that the highest, the man who controlled and was 57:29.370 --> 57:35.270 the leader of the Masonic order throughout the world is the Black Pope. 57:36.090 --> 57:42.730 So, all of these rulers throughout the Middle East, Johnny, are working for the 57:42.730 --> 57:46.130 Jesuit general of the Catholic Church. 57:46.950 --> 57:54.110 Well, now that we've come back to the Jesuit leader, are you familiar with the 57:54.110 --> 57:54.950 Jesuit Oath? 57:55.910 --> 57:56.710 Yes, I am. 57:58.650 --> 58:03.290 Basically, Johnny, what the Jesuit Oath comes down... 58:03.290 --> 58:09.090 We're probably going to go a couple minutes into the archive, so people, 58:09.230 --> 58:13.910 if the show stops, go back and listen to the end of the show in the archives area. 58:14.750 --> 58:16.230 I'm sorry, go ahead, my friend. 58:17.070 --> 58:24.630 Well, the Jesuit Oath, Johnny, basically, the Jesuits are saying, 58:24.970 --> 58:29.750 we will kill, we will maim, we will do... 58:29.750 --> 58:30.910 Well, here, I'll read it to you. 58:30.990 --> 58:34.870 I have it on page 11 and 12 of my book, The Secret Terrorist. 58:35.390 --> 58:41.290 The Jesuit Oath, in part, says this, I do further promise and declare that I 58:41.290 --> 58:47.890 will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation, whatever, 58:48.090 --> 58:54.050 even as a corpse or cadaver, but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command 58:54.050 --> 58:59.730 that I may receive from my superiors in the militia, the militia of the Pope. 59:00.350 --> 59:04.690 I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, 59:04.930 --> 59:12.370 make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly against all heretics, Protestants 59:12.370 --> 59:18.130 and liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the 59:18.130 --> 59:23.130 face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition. 59:23.330 --> 59:28.670 I will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these 59:28.670 --> 59:34.070 infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and the wombs of their women and crush their 59:34.070 --> 59:39.090 infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their 59:39.090 --> 59:40.950 execrable race. 59:41.630 --> 59:45.830 That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup, 59:45.950 --> 59:50.350 the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, 59:50.470 --> 59:55.130 regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or 59:55.130 --> 59:58.990 persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, 59:59.530 --> 01:00:06.110 as I at any time may be directed so to do, by any agent of the Pope or superior of 01:00:06.110 --> 01:00:10.910 the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus. 01:00:12.770 --> 01:00:15.030 And that's the enemy that we face. 01:00:17.630 --> 01:00:18.470 Absolutely. 01:00:19.150 --> 01:00:28.890 It's a group of people, both men and women, that have taken an oath that they 01:00:28.890 --> 01:00:29.670 will kill. 01:00:30.250 --> 01:00:36.750 They will do whatever is necessary to see the Protestant Reformation destroyed. 01:00:36.750 --> 01:00:46.610 In fact, the very essence of why the Jesuit Order was created was to destroy 01:00:46.610 --> 01:00:48.050 the Protestant Reformation. 01:00:48.870 --> 01:00:53.530 And if they don't destroy it, then they have no reason to exist. 01:00:54.710 --> 01:01:01.710 And based on what I see in my Bible, Johnny, that there will be a group of 01:01:01.710 --> 01:01:08.490 people living on this earth at the end of time that will show the world and the 01:01:08.490 --> 01:01:14.030 universe the triumph of the Protestant Reformation. 01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:20.410 And that group of people we find in Revelation 7 and 14, called the 144,000. 01:01:20.410 --> 01:01:28.370 This group of people, Johnny, will face every onslaught of the devil and his 01:01:28.370 --> 01:01:29.750 agents, the Jesuits. 01:01:30.050 --> 01:01:32.330 Every onslaught they can throw. 01:01:33.150 --> 01:01:37.870 And this group of people will stand through the mighty power of Jesus Christ 01:01:37.870 --> 01:01:39.670 and will oppose them. 01:01:40.430 --> 01:01:44.930 And they will triumph, Johnny, and they will triumph gloriously. 01:01:46.250 --> 01:01:47.610 I believe that. 01:01:48.490 --> 01:01:54.510 So, the end game of this Jesuit group would be what, if you had to sum it up 01:01:54.510 --> 01:01:55.270 really quickly. 01:01:55.990 --> 01:02:01.390 And I have questions here from folks who want to know if it... does Barack Obama 01:02:01.390 --> 01:02:04.130 play into the Jesuit Order in any way? 01:02:04.890 --> 01:02:06.590 Oh, absolutely he does, Johnny. 01:02:06.870 --> 01:02:07.410 Absolutely. 01:02:09.370 --> 01:02:15.770 Johnny, the ultimate goals of the Jesuit Order, number one, is to destroy 01:02:15.770 --> 01:02:18.930 everything that Protestantism stands for. 01:02:19.590 --> 01:02:26.050 And what Protestantism stood for was religious freedom, civil freedom, 01:02:26.510 --> 01:02:27.870 and economic freedom. 01:02:27.870 --> 01:02:36.830 Or, in other words, the right to worship God as we choose, governments of the 01:02:36.830 --> 01:02:41.770 people, by the people, and for the people, representative government, and a strong 01:02:41.770 --> 01:02:42.690 middle class. 01:02:43.390 --> 01:02:49.290 Now, those are the fruits in the religious, civil, and economic fabric of 01:02:49.290 --> 01:02:49.910 this country. 01:02:51.150 --> 01:02:55.870 Johnny, the Jesuit Order has got to destroy those things, and they are in the 01:02:55.870 --> 01:02:58.390 process of destroying those things today. 01:02:58.890 --> 01:03:07.130 Now, the other thing, Johnny, is to re-establish the authority of the Catholic 01:03:07.130 --> 01:03:09.910 Church and the Pope in this world. 01:03:10.810 --> 01:03:14.290 And so, that, Johnny, is their other goal. 01:03:15.130 --> 01:03:20.250 They've got to destroy Protestantism, and at the same time, they've got to 01:03:20.250 --> 01:03:25.370 re-establish the authority of the Pope and the Catholic Church throughout this 01:03:25.370 --> 01:03:25.790 planet. 01:03:27.270 --> 01:03:32.550 And based on what Revelation, the book of Revelation says, Johnny, that the beast 01:03:32.550 --> 01:03:39.950 will seek to cause all the world to worship the way they tell us to do. 01:03:39.950 --> 01:03:46.850 And I believe that's the ultimate goal of the papacy at this time in Earth's 01:03:46.850 --> 01:03:52.070 history, is to get all the world back to honoring the Catholic Church. 01:03:54.930 --> 01:03:57.970 Well, you've definitely given us a lot to chew on tonight, my friend. 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:03.960 Well, I tell you, Johnny, there's a whole lot more. 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:05.520 There's a whole lot more. 01:04:05.720 --> 01:04:11.600 But, you know, glad I could be a part of the program with you, and I just would 01:04:11.600 --> 01:04:13.720 invite all the listeners... 01:04:16.900 --> 01:04:18.440 How can they get your book? 01:04:19.300 --> 01:04:22.560 Well, if they would like, Johnny, I'll give them my address. 01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:24.460 My address is P.O. 01:04:24.520 --> 01:04:27.160 Box 1417. 01:04:28.160 --> 01:04:29.080 That's P.O. 01:04:29.120 --> 01:04:30.880 Box 1417. 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:34.160 The town I live in is Eustis. 01:04:34.200 --> 01:04:38.620 That's spelled E-U-S-T-I-S. 01:04:39.540 --> 01:04:42.080 E-U-S-T-I-S. 01:04:42.740 --> 01:04:48.760 The state is Florida, and the zip code is 32727. 01:04:50.740 --> 01:04:52.240 Just have them write to me. 01:04:52.420 --> 01:04:56.520 If they could throw in, you know, I don't want to get into finances, 01:04:56.820 --> 01:05:01.140 but if they could throw in a little bit of money just to help out with expenses for 01:05:01.140 --> 01:05:03.600 the books and postage, that would be great. 01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.640 And I'd be happy to send and write a little note and say, please send me a copy 01:05:09.640 --> 01:05:12.200 of both your books, and I'd be happy to send them to them. 01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:18.440 Well, it would really behoove anyone who hasn't read these books to read them, 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.620 and read them from cover to cover. 01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:22.760 I plan on going back and re-reading mine. 01:05:23.380 --> 01:05:28.420 I mean, this was really an eye-opener for me, and as a result, you know, 01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.200 I plan on making some changes with the show. 01:05:32.200 --> 01:05:36.580 Nothing too drastic, but take the show in a little different direction. 01:05:37.180 --> 01:05:40.500 I'm even looking at a new opening theme song for the show. 01:05:42.620 --> 01:05:45.780 But wow, I mean, true eye-opener. 01:05:45.940 --> 01:05:47.120 Folks, get this book. 01:05:47.340 --> 01:05:48.160 Get these books. 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:55.440 And Bill, sir, I really want to say thank you for you agreeing to be on the show 01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:55.880 tonight. 01:05:56.820 --> 01:06:01.220 Johnny, it's been my pleasure, and if I can ever be of help again, 01:06:01.300 --> 01:06:04.420 or we can work it out, I'd be happy to come on with you again. 01:06:05.120 --> 01:06:08.020 Oh, I would love somewhere down the road to have you back on. 01:06:08.680 --> 01:06:10.160 Well, let me know, Johnny. 01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:15.620 I'd be happy to work with you, and God bless you and your dear wife, 01:06:15.940 --> 01:06:22.220 and have a wonderful New Year, and I'll wait to hear from you again. 01:06:22.900 --> 01:06:26.260 I will definitely make that happen in the future. 01:06:27.780 --> 01:06:30.980 And it looks like we're over time this time. 01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:33.160 We're out of time. 01:06:33.520 --> 01:06:38.380 So I want everybody to remember that we are starting a new year tonight, 01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:44.680 and with that new year, we have new chances to do things better than we did 01:06:44.680 --> 01:06:45.400 last year. 01:06:46.180 --> 01:06:52.280 You know, I'm sure that I made plenty of mistakes, and I'm sure you did too, 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:54.740 and we can all change. 01:06:54.860 --> 01:06:56.880 We have time to change, and we can do better. 01:06:56.980 --> 01:07:01.860 We can be better people, and I would encourage you to be better people. 01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:06.960 I mean, after what we've heard tonight, you know, I would deeply, deeply encourage 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:12.240 you to be sober and be vigilant, because your adversary the devil has a 01:07:12.240 --> 01:07:16.440 roaring lion walketh about, seeing whom he may devour. 01:07:17.140 --> 01:07:19.180 I mean, that's just the simple truth of it. 01:07:19.220 --> 01:07:21.140 I mean, this stuff is frightening, folks. 01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:25.340 But we need to remember that God is still in control. 01:07:27.420 --> 01:07:34.000 And folks, just until next time, take care of yourself and each other. 01:07:34.660 --> 01:07:36.700 Have a good night, and happy new year. 01:07:40.540 --> 01:07:47.440 Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done. 01:07:48.220 --> 01:07:53.600 Lay your weary head to rest, don't you cry no more. 01:07:59.660 --> 01:08:01.540 Blob Talk Radio 01:08:45.220 --> 01:08:49.880 Well, good evening everyone, and welcome to another episode of Wayward News 01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:50.400 Network. 01:08:50.900 --> 01:08:53.260 My name is Johnny Henderson, I'm your host. 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:58.660 As you can see, we're still experimenting, trying to find the right theme music for 01:08:58.660 --> 01:08:59.080 this year. 01:08:59.240 --> 01:09:04.840 My son has poked around on the internet and found something for this week to see 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:05.960 how people like it. 01:09:10.070 --> 01:09:17.190 It's pretty busy for me, but God is good and he won't put more on us than we can 01:09:17.190 --> 01:09:17.570 handle. 01:09:18.430 --> 01:09:21.350 I apologize for being away for the last couple of weeks. 01:09:21.490 --> 01:09:26.470 I had a guest that I thought was really relevant to the show scheduled for 01:09:26.470 --> 01:09:31.010 actually the last three weeks, but our schedules never could meet. 01:09:31.570 --> 01:09:39.490 And I didn't want to just put in some fluffy filler because I want to actually 01:09:39.490 --> 01:09:42.470 be able to bring you something of interest when I do have a show. 01:09:45.050 --> 01:09:50.610 And I'm not afraid to touch on the more serious subject. 01:09:51.450 --> 01:09:55.330 That's kind of how I got settled with the nickname Wayward Some, because I don't go 01:09:55.330 --> 01:09:58.070 along in the same way that everybody does. 01:09:58.510 --> 01:10:01.690 I'm gonna just go my own way and do what I think is right. 01:10:03.150 --> 01:10:07.370 I want to welcome back to the show tonight a guest we had a few weeks ago, 01:10:07.470 --> 01:10:12.870 Mr. Bill Hughes, the author of The Secret Terrorist and The Enemies Unmasked. 01:10:13.430 --> 01:10:18.650 The show that we've done last time with Bill was one of the wideliest listened to 01:10:18.650 --> 01:10:20.030 shows that we've ever done. 01:10:20.730 --> 01:10:23.050 And I just appreciate having him back. 01:10:23.230 --> 01:10:24.330 Bill, how are you doing tonight? 01:10:25.750 --> 01:10:27.610 Johnny, I'm doing very well, thank you. 01:10:28.070 --> 01:10:30.090 Glad to be back here with you tonight. 01:10:32.310 --> 01:10:34.450 And I am really glad to have you back. 01:10:35.070 --> 01:10:40.450 You know, the show that you've done actually for a while was the highest 01:10:40.450 --> 01:10:43.630 listened to show that we've ever done on here, so I think the people really 01:10:43.630 --> 01:10:44.590 appreciated it. 01:10:44.870 --> 01:10:46.290 But they're still listening to it. 01:10:46.330 --> 01:10:52.570 They're going back and downloading it off of iTunes and a few other download sites. 01:10:53.630 --> 01:10:58.450 So it is getting out, and I had a lady tell me that she actually is downloading 01:10:58.450 --> 01:11:01.070 it, putting it on disks, and sending it around the country. 01:11:01.210 --> 01:11:05.050 So you can feel very happy about the job you did last time. 01:11:06.290 --> 01:11:07.530 Well, praise God, Johnny. 01:11:08.590 --> 01:11:15.650 Of course, it's the truth, and Jesus, of course, in John chapter 8, he said that 01:11:15.650 --> 01:11:20.270 you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free. 01:11:21.010 --> 01:11:24.550 And I believe, Johnny, there's a lot of people in America and around the world 01:11:24.550 --> 01:11:29.290 today, like what's going on over in Egypt, what's going on here in America. 01:11:29.990 --> 01:11:33.930 And Johnny, a lot of people are afraid, and a lot of people need answers and want 01:11:33.930 --> 01:11:34.450 answers. 01:11:35.230 --> 01:11:39.730 And Jesus promised us that he would teach us what was true. 01:11:40.550 --> 01:11:44.330 And in knowing that truth, Johnny, we would be set free. 01:11:44.910 --> 01:11:47.070 And that's freedom from fear. 01:11:47.370 --> 01:11:48.990 It's freedom from anxiety. 01:11:49.710 --> 01:11:52.970 It's freedom from not knowing. 01:11:53.830 --> 01:12:00.410 And I'm just thankful, Johnny, that there is light that can shed light on 01:12:00.410 --> 01:12:02.250 what is going on today. 01:12:03.310 --> 01:12:08.970 And there's light, Johnny, from God's Word that can shed light on what is happening 01:12:08.970 --> 01:12:09.950 in the near future. 01:12:10.750 --> 01:12:11.870 And I'm just so thankful. 01:12:12.050 --> 01:12:20.770 You know, in the Bible, in 2 Peter chapter 1, Peter says, For we have also a more 01:12:20.770 --> 01:12:27.930 sure word of prophecy, whereunto ye do well if ye take heed, as unto a light that 01:12:27.930 --> 01:12:33.430 shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the day star rises in your 01:12:33.430 --> 01:12:33.790 heart. 01:12:34.010 --> 01:12:42.330 So, Johnny, God has given us prophecy in his Word to shine as light in a dark 01:12:42.330 --> 01:12:42.850 place. 01:12:43.290 --> 01:12:48.970 And we know, you and I and everybody that will listen to this broadcast, 01:12:49.750 --> 01:12:56.630 we all know that we live in a time of great darkness, a time of great subtlety, 01:12:57.050 --> 01:12:58.570 a time of great deception. 01:12:58.950 --> 01:13:06.610 And I'm just so thankful tonight for the word of prophecy that shines as a light in 01:13:06.610 --> 01:13:13.710 this darkened world and helps us to see what's happening now and what's going to 01:13:13.710 --> 01:13:14.930 happen in the near future. 01:13:17.050 --> 01:13:18.990 Well, I can certainly agree with that. 01:13:19.790 --> 01:13:25.730 I know that you said some very interesting things when you were on the show last 01:13:25.730 --> 01:13:26.070 time. 01:13:26.370 --> 01:13:29.650 You talked about a certain group of men, and I'm going to have you give a brief 01:13:29.650 --> 01:13:31.170 overview again here in a minute. 01:13:31.790 --> 01:13:37.350 But you kind of gave a couple of teasers last time, a little bit, when you were 01:13:37.350 --> 01:13:37.790 talking. 01:13:38.210 --> 01:13:40.790 And I'm going to ask you to get into that again here a little bit. 01:13:40.910 --> 01:13:46.090 You mentioned the Pope, and then you mentioned the Mark of the Beast. 01:13:46.650 --> 01:13:50.610 So, time permitting tonight, I'd like to get you to expound on that a little bit. 01:13:51.050 --> 01:13:54.950 But here at the beginning, is there any way you could kind of give a brief 01:13:54.950 --> 01:13:56.830 overview of what we talked about last time? 01:13:58.530 --> 01:14:03.550 Johnny, to be blunt and honest with you, I don't remember what we talked about last 01:14:03.550 --> 01:14:03.990 time. 01:14:06.290 --> 01:14:09.210 Well, we talked about much, it'd be hard to remember it all. 01:14:10.030 --> 01:14:12.410 We were talking about the Jesuits. 01:14:12.890 --> 01:14:14.650 Okay, okay. 01:14:15.670 --> 01:14:27.250 Johnny, in brief, to capsulize nearly 500 years in a couple of moments, as Martin 01:14:27.250 --> 01:14:33.050 Luther and the Reformers were spreading the truth throughout Europe, the Catholic 01:14:33.050 --> 01:14:42.290 Church was so afraid that in the 1530s, an order was established called the Jesuit 01:14:42.290 --> 01:14:42.630 Order. 01:14:42.770 --> 01:14:51.530 It was established by Ignatius Loyola, and it was confirmed by Pope Paul III, 01:14:51.730 --> 01:14:59.190 I believe, right around 1540, which would have been about 19 years after Luther 01:14:59.190 --> 01:15:01.290 nailed the 95 theses. 01:15:01.930 --> 01:15:05.390 No, after he stood at the Diet of Worms in 1521. 01:15:06.130 --> 01:15:11.370 So about 20 years later, the Jesuit Order was formed, and it had basically two 01:15:11.370 --> 01:15:12.370 purposes, Johnny. 01:15:12.490 --> 01:15:20.290 One was to re-establish the power and authority of the papacy in this world, 01:15:20.870 --> 01:15:29.630 and then, Johnny, to unravel and to destroy everything that Protestantism had 01:15:29.630 --> 01:15:30.210 created. 01:15:31.110 --> 01:15:31.830 So... 01:15:31.830 --> 01:15:32.770 Is that still the plan? 01:15:33.990 --> 01:15:35.570 Oh, absolutely it is, Johnny. 01:15:35.710 --> 01:15:43.990 And as we look in this century that we're in, the 21st century now, we can see the 01:15:43.990 --> 01:15:51.390 power, the authority, the might that the Pope is gaining on every hand, 01:15:52.010 --> 01:15:54.470 every hand, at every moment. 01:15:55.050 --> 01:16:02.430 So, and we can also see the unraveling and the disintegrating of the Protestant 01:16:02.430 --> 01:16:03.250 Reformation. 01:16:04.030 --> 01:16:09.250 So, do we see the power and the hand of the Jesuits throughout this world? 01:16:09.470 --> 01:16:10.590 Absolutely we do. 01:16:11.250 --> 01:16:20.030 And, you know, there was a time when they were suppressed in 1773 and 1774, 01:16:20.190 --> 01:16:25.630 right in that time frame, just before the Declaration of Independence in 1776. 01:16:26.370 --> 01:16:33.290 But they were then re-established in 1814, and they've been at it ever since. 01:16:33.890 --> 01:16:41.770 And the Bible, again, it paints for us, it sheds light that the papacy through the 01:16:41.770 --> 01:16:49.410 Jesuit order today, as Revelation 17 verse 2 says, and verse 18, it says that the 01:16:49.410 --> 01:16:53.430 kings of the earth have committed fornication with her. 01:16:54.110 --> 01:17:01.150 And it says also in Revelation 17, 18, that the whore, the papacy, 01:17:01.290 --> 01:17:07.450 i.e., and all her minions, and the Jesuits would be among those minions, that they 01:17:07.450 --> 01:17:10.750 reign over the kings of the earth. 01:17:11.270 --> 01:17:16.470 So the leaders of this world today, while we see them out in front, 01:17:16.590 --> 01:17:21.110 and we think they're the ones that are calling the shots, the Bible paints a 01:17:21.110 --> 01:17:26.250 different picture, and it sheds light into the fact that it's organized religion 01:17:26.250 --> 01:17:33.490 today, via the papacy and the Jesuit order, that tells the world's leaders what 01:17:33.490 --> 01:17:33.930 to do. 01:17:34.330 --> 01:17:40.190 It also, in Revelation 18, tells us that the merchants of the earth, the great 01:17:40.190 --> 01:17:46.470 wealthy, the business people of our world, from the Rockefellers, to the Rothschilds, 01:17:46.490 --> 01:17:52.430 to the Morgans, to Chase, to the Drexels, to Stanford, to Morgan Stanley, 01:17:52.610 --> 01:18:00.810 Dean Witter, all of these mighty, powerful merchants in this world are made 01:18:00.810 --> 01:18:06.750 rich because they've sold their souls to Babylon the Great, which is the papacy. 01:18:07.410 --> 01:18:11.490 Now wait a minute, how do you get Babylon the Great is the papacy? 01:18:12.050 --> 01:18:14.290 If you don't mind expounding on that just a bit. 01:18:15.010 --> 01:18:15.930 Oh sure, Johnny. 01:18:16.390 --> 01:18:22.190 The symbolism, Johnny, we find of Babylon the Great is in Revelation 17 and 18. 01:18:23.330 --> 01:18:33.250 And Revelation 17 verse 1 declares that John was told by an angel, I will show you 01:18:33.250 --> 01:18:37.650 the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters. 01:18:37.930 --> 01:18:43.210 And then, Johnny, we find various characteristics of this whore. 01:18:43.770 --> 01:18:48.370 She's in unlawful fornication with the leaders of the world. 01:18:48.830 --> 01:18:52.970 She's made the earth drunk with the wine of her fornication. 01:18:53.550 --> 01:18:55.330 She's very wealthy. 01:18:55.950 --> 01:18:57.570 She commits blasphemy. 01:18:57.750 --> 01:19:00.570 Revelation 17 3 tells us that. 01:19:01.070 --> 01:19:03.210 And Revelation 17 verse 4. 01:19:03.910 --> 01:19:09.210 Revelation 17 5 tells us that she has a name, this whore. 01:19:09.810 --> 01:19:15.330 And it says, Mystery Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of 01:19:15.330 --> 01:19:15.810 the earth. 01:19:16.090 --> 01:19:22.730 Well, Johnny, when you analyze the symbol of an impure woman throughout scripture, 01:19:23.310 --> 01:19:32.310 and also a pure woman, an impure woman has always throughout the Bible been used as a 01:19:32.310 --> 01:19:36.570 symbol to represent the church of God in apostasy. 01:19:37.110 --> 01:19:44.610 And a pure woman represents the church of God when it's following in heaven's 01:19:44.610 --> 01:19:45.170 commandments. 01:19:46.190 --> 01:19:54.350 So we find here in Revelation 17 this apostate church called Babylon the Great 01:19:54.350 --> 01:20:01.450 that is in bed with the kings of the world, made wealthy the merchants of the 01:20:01.450 --> 01:20:01.810 earth. 01:20:02.510 --> 01:20:10.070 Revelation 17 6 says that this whore was drunk with the blood of the saints. 01:20:10.590 --> 01:20:15.930 So this church is a persecutor of God's people. 01:20:16.650 --> 01:20:23.050 Now, you know, I think the symbol that just tips the balance as to exactly who 01:20:23.050 --> 01:20:29.790 this is, is the fact that in Revelation 17 3 the Bible declares that she commits 01:20:29.790 --> 01:20:30.710 blasphemy. 01:20:31.370 --> 01:20:37.690 And in the Bible, Johnny, it's fascinating because Christ twice was accused of 01:20:37.690 --> 01:20:38.950 committing blasphemy. 01:20:39.510 --> 01:20:47.070 Once in Mark chapter 2 verses 5 through 7, when he forgave the paralytic of his sins, 01:20:47.770 --> 01:20:50.010 he said, son, be of good cheer. 01:20:50.390 --> 01:20:52.270 Your sins are forgiven you. 01:20:52.970 --> 01:20:58.290 And the scribes and Pharisees were sitting there saying, who does this man think he 01:20:58.290 --> 01:20:58.630 is? 01:20:58.770 --> 01:21:00.390 Who can commit sin? 01:21:00.510 --> 01:21:02.750 Who can forgive sins but God only? 01:21:02.750 --> 01:21:04.950 He's committing blasphemy. 01:21:05.710 --> 01:21:14.310 Well, in the Bible, if a man claims power to forgive sins, that's blasphemy. 01:21:14.550 --> 01:21:17.610 Well, Christ was the son of God, so he could forgive. 01:21:18.230 --> 01:21:24.150 But if a man or a system claims that it can forgive sins, that's blasphemy. 01:21:24.490 --> 01:21:31.690 The other way the Bible indicates is in John 10 30 to 33, where Jesus Christ 01:21:31.690 --> 01:21:34.210 declared that he and his father were one. 01:21:35.430 --> 01:21:38.950 And the Jews took up stones to throw at Christ. 01:21:39.810 --> 01:21:41.930 And Christ said, why are you stoning me? 01:21:41.970 --> 01:21:47.470 And they said, for a good work we stone you not, but for blasphemy, because you 01:21:47.470 --> 01:21:50.650 being a man, make yourself God. 01:21:51.450 --> 01:21:53.790 Well, Christ was God. 01:21:53.850 --> 01:21:59.490 He was God in the flesh, as 1 Timothy 3 16 tells us. 01:22:00.610 --> 01:22:09.210 But when a man claims the titles of deity, when a man says that he's the Holy Father, 01:22:09.570 --> 01:22:16.350 or he is God in human flesh, or he is the Vicar of Christ, well, that's blasphemy. 01:22:17.130 --> 01:22:23.130 Now, you look at that and you say, well, who is this whore that claims to be 01:22:23.130 --> 01:22:28.010 God on earth, claims power to forgive sins, persecutes the people of God, 01:22:28.370 --> 01:22:32.990 is in bed with the rulers of the world, and is extremely wealthy? 01:22:34.210 --> 01:22:37.790 Now, that's just through the first six verses of Revelation 17. 01:22:38.090 --> 01:22:42.870 But just from those verses alone, it's obvious that Babylon the Great of 01:22:42.870 --> 01:22:48.030 Revelation 17 represents the papacy, the system of Roman Catholicism. 01:22:48.030 --> 01:22:52.770 Now, isn't this woman that you're talking about, I don't claim to be a Bible 01:22:52.770 --> 01:22:57.430 scholar, but isn't this woman you're talking about, isn't she pictured riding 01:22:57.430 --> 01:22:58.450 on a beast? 01:22:59.530 --> 01:23:01.210 Yes, she is, Johnny, absolutely. 01:23:02.130 --> 01:23:07.650 And I was thinking from what I've read, it sounds very much like Revelation 13. 01:23:09.210 --> 01:23:12.570 That's part of the most famous chapter out of Revelation, you know, the one with the 01:23:12.570 --> 01:23:15.750 beast and the mark and the image and all that. 01:23:15.970 --> 01:23:18.590 Do those two things go together in any way, those two chapters? 01:23:19.230 --> 01:23:20.650 No question, Johnny. 01:23:20.750 --> 01:23:28.870 In fact, what you have in Revelation 17 and in Revelation 13, one to ten, 01:23:29.310 --> 01:23:33.170 is you have the exact same power identified. 01:23:33.170 --> 01:23:34.090 Exactly. 01:23:35.050 --> 01:23:44.110 The big thing, Johnny, is... and what you have in Revelation 17 is that's a little 01:23:44.110 --> 01:23:49.670 bit different than Revelation 13, is in Revelation 17, you've got a woman 01:23:49.670 --> 01:23:50.670 riding a beast. 01:23:51.990 --> 01:23:57.070 And in that, Johnny, you have both aspects of the papal power. 01:23:57.570 --> 01:24:01.010 Because you see, the papacy is not just a church. 01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:04.090 The papacy is a political power. 01:24:04.370 --> 01:24:12.310 It sends ambassadors in Vatican City. 01:24:12.650 --> 01:24:18.050 So it is a political power besides being a church. 01:24:18.230 --> 01:24:23.190 And I believe that's what you have in the symbolism of a woman riding a beast. 01:24:24.170 --> 01:24:31.490 Whereas in Revelation 13, you don't have it delineated quite as specifically as you 01:24:31.490 --> 01:24:32.890 do in Revelation 17. 01:24:33.310 --> 01:24:38.670 Nevertheless, the first beast of Revelation 13 and the whore of Revelation 01:24:38.670 --> 01:24:41.030 17 is the same power. 01:24:41.150 --> 01:24:43.870 It's the papacy, the Roman Catholic Church system. 01:24:44.030 --> 01:24:45.170 No question about it. 01:24:46.250 --> 01:24:50.690 Well, that would kind of make sense if the beast is a political power. 01:24:51.070 --> 01:24:57.650 And last time we had talked about the Jesuits, how they were like the military 01:24:57.650 --> 01:25:00.350 arm of the Catholic Church. 01:25:01.650 --> 01:25:05.390 So a political power usually does have an army of some sort. 01:25:06.530 --> 01:25:07.570 Oh, absolutely, Johnny. 01:25:07.750 --> 01:25:10.670 And you know, Napoleon Bonaparte, I believe that's... 01:25:11.390 --> 01:25:16.910 I quoted that from my book, The Secret Terrorist, that Napoleon Bonaparte 01:25:16.910 --> 01:25:23.990 understood he was trained by the Jesuits on the island of Corsica to fight battles 01:25:23.990 --> 01:25:33.490 for the Jesuit order via France to pay back the papacy for suppressing the Jesuit 01:25:33.490 --> 01:25:36.110 order right there in 1773. 01:25:36.690 --> 01:25:38.450 Because that was a no, no. 01:25:38.530 --> 01:25:43.150 When Pope Clement XIV suppressed the Jesuit order, it's a fact of history, 01:25:43.890 --> 01:25:54.090 in 1773, Napoleon was trained and he was used by the Jesuit order to pay back the 01:25:54.090 --> 01:25:58.410 powers of Europe that had sought to suppress the Jesuit order. 01:25:59.130 --> 01:26:01.570 And that's exactly what Napoleon did. 01:26:01.710 --> 01:26:07.570 So he knew, Napoleon knew firsthand what the Jesuit order was all about, 01:26:08.610 --> 01:26:15.490 that it was a military power and it was the military arm of the Catholic Church. 01:26:17.590 --> 01:26:24.510 And so the Jesuit order, if I've got this right, their goal in life is to destroy 01:26:24.510 --> 01:26:25.570 Protestantism. 01:26:25.930 --> 01:26:29.570 Now that would be like people who aren't Catholic, right? 01:26:30.390 --> 01:26:32.110 That's exactly right, Johnny. 01:26:32.310 --> 01:26:39.130 And it's not just, Johnny, people that are, you know, liberal in thinking. 01:26:39.290 --> 01:26:41.390 It's anybody that's not a Roman Catholic. 01:26:41.750 --> 01:26:43.290 Basically, that's what it is. 01:26:43.290 --> 01:26:50.050 And, but see, Johnny, in destroying everything that Protestantism had done, 01:26:50.910 --> 01:26:55.750 see, the Protestant Reformation brought this world many, many things. 01:26:56.250 --> 01:27:03.630 Number one, in the religious realm, it told people that we could approach God 01:27:03.630 --> 01:27:06.850 directly through Jesus Christ. 01:27:06.850 --> 01:27:09.430 We need no human mediator. 01:27:10.150 --> 01:27:17.770 So it made every man and every person, it made us the priesthood of believers, 01:27:17.770 --> 01:27:23.050 that we can all approach God through faith in Jesus Christ. 01:27:23.270 --> 01:27:31.150 And it provided the fact that we would submit to no other authority than the God 01:27:31.150 --> 01:27:31.650 of heaven. 01:27:32.310 --> 01:27:37.310 Now that's what the Protestant Reformation gave us in the spiritual realm. 01:27:37.830 --> 01:27:39.570 But there was other realms. 01:27:39.830 --> 01:27:46.370 In the political realm, the Protestant Reformation gave people the idea that 01:27:46.370 --> 01:27:54.450 government should not be controlled and dominated by a few, but government should 01:27:54.450 --> 01:27:58.930 be of the people, by the people, and for the people. 01:27:59.810 --> 01:28:05.230 So self-government was a fruit of the Protestant Reformation. 01:28:05.910 --> 01:28:13.890 That idea began onto the scene of Europe in the 16th and 17th, 18th centuries. 01:28:14.570 --> 01:28:19.750 That's what the Protestant Reformation brought us in the political arena. 01:28:20.010 --> 01:28:29.150 In the economic arena, through the dark ages, from 500 to 1500, Johnny, 01:28:29.270 --> 01:28:30.750 there were two classes of people. 01:28:30.930 --> 01:28:34.630 There were the filthy rich and the filthy poor. 01:28:36.010 --> 01:28:38.810 We're kind of starting to see it go back to that direction. 01:28:39.810 --> 01:28:41.530 Oh Johnny, it absolutely is. 01:28:42.950 --> 01:28:48.250 Johnny, after the Protestant Reformation, people began to look and say, you know, 01:28:48.370 --> 01:28:49.330 I'm an artisan. 01:28:49.610 --> 01:28:50.970 I'm a carpenter. 01:28:51.150 --> 01:28:52.310 I'm a printer. 01:28:52.570 --> 01:28:53.350 I'm a doctor. 01:28:53.490 --> 01:28:54.070 I'm this. 01:28:54.190 --> 01:28:54.590 I'm that. 01:28:55.050 --> 01:28:58.670 I can use my skills to make my own living. 01:28:59.610 --> 01:29:04.950 And so a middle class developed out of the Protestant Reformation. 01:29:05.990 --> 01:29:11.110 And you know, Johnny, you're very perceptive point that that's where we're 01:29:11.110 --> 01:29:12.830 rapidly heading back to. 01:29:12.950 --> 01:29:14.090 And you're exactly right. 01:29:14.630 --> 01:29:19.970 And one of the key things, the greatest nation on the face of the earth that has 01:29:19.970 --> 01:29:24.390 brought the world the idea of a middle class is the United States. 01:29:25.370 --> 01:29:32.050 And Johnny, if you think back just 17 years ago, during the first presidency of 01:29:32.050 --> 01:29:37.110 Bill Clinton, who, by the way, was trained at Georgetown University, 01:29:37.770 --> 01:29:39.110 trained by Jesuits. 01:29:39.110 --> 01:29:42.370 It was his Jesuit mentor, Carol Quigley. 01:29:43.010 --> 01:29:49.930 It was only he that Clinton quoted and praised in his first inaugural address in 01:29:49.930 --> 01:29:50.750 1992. 01:29:51.430 --> 01:29:56.190 So the Jesuit order had a tremendous influence over that man. 01:29:56.810 --> 01:30:02.250 Well, you think about what Clinton passed when he passed the North American Free 01:30:02.250 --> 01:30:05.850 Trade Agreement called NAFTA in 1993. 01:30:06.630 --> 01:30:14.770 Johnny, that destroyed, that destroyed millions and millions of middle class jobs 01:30:14.770 --> 01:30:15.550 in this country. 01:30:16.410 --> 01:30:23.290 And so the Jesuit order using their Jesuit puppet, Bill Clinton, would seek to 01:30:23.290 --> 01:30:26.510 destroy the middle class in the United States. 01:30:26.930 --> 01:30:30.830 And we see that going on today in this economic crisis. 01:30:31.070 --> 01:30:37.030 The rich are getting richer and richer, and the middle class is rapidly 01:30:37.030 --> 01:30:37.910 disappearing. 01:30:39.130 --> 01:30:40.910 And that... You know, it's weird that you... 01:30:42.770 --> 01:30:48.190 I was just going to say, it's weird that you mentioned Bill Clinton and Carol 01:30:48.190 --> 01:30:53.970 Quigley, who was a Jesuit, because years ago I was watching a State of the Union or 01:30:53.970 --> 01:30:58.790 a television address by Bill Clinton, and he was talking about sending soldiers 01:30:58.790 --> 01:30:59.610 to Bosnia. 01:31:00.290 --> 01:31:02.930 And he said something that was just really set strange with me. 01:31:02.950 --> 01:31:10.810 Way back then, he said, I was talking to His Holiness the Pope, and he said, 01:31:10.930 --> 01:31:16.790 Mr. President, you must not let war continue in Bosnia, so I've decided to 01:31:16.790 --> 01:31:17.550 send troops. 01:31:19.450 --> 01:31:27.750 And I was always wondering, why would the President of the United States send troops 01:31:27.750 --> 01:31:32.670 because a church person told him to do it, to not let war go on? 01:31:33.790 --> 01:31:38.490 Yeah, Johnny, that's a fascinating study in a brief nutshell. 01:31:40.150 --> 01:31:45.070 See, what the Pope was telling, and this would have been John Paul II, 01:31:45.670 --> 01:31:51.130 what he was telling Bill Clinton is to do what you've got to do, bring in NATO, 01:31:51.770 --> 01:31:53.970 which is exactly what Clinton did. 01:31:54.750 --> 01:32:05.070 He sent in NATO and just basically brought into submission the Serbs in Yugoslavia, 01:32:05.290 --> 01:32:07.010 Bosnia, Herzegovina. 01:32:08.550 --> 01:32:18.430 Johnny, for centuries, back in 1054, actually, people broke away from the 01:32:18.430 --> 01:32:22.050 Catholic Church and they created the Greek Orthodox Church. 01:32:22.710 --> 01:32:30.230 And that was primarily made up with people who eventually, in the area of Yugoslavia 01:32:30.230 --> 01:32:33.790 and Bosnia, were called Serbs. 01:32:34.590 --> 01:32:39.990 And the reason the Serbs were tolerated in that area of the world was because they 01:32:39.990 --> 01:32:41.350 were such great fighters. 01:32:42.230 --> 01:32:48.750 Well, the people that predominantly lived in that area were called Croats, 01:32:49.250 --> 01:32:53.350 or what we know of today as the area called Croatia. 01:32:54.070 --> 01:32:56.710 Well, Johnny, those people are devout Catholics. 01:32:57.610 --> 01:33:01.890 The only reason the Serbs, again, were tolerated was because they were such 01:33:01.890 --> 01:33:02.790 great warriors. 01:33:03.410 --> 01:33:08.110 But, Johnny, there has been a systematic attempt in World War I. 01:33:09.170 --> 01:33:15.770 If you remember the Archduke of Austria, the man who was going to go to the throne 01:33:15.770 --> 01:33:21.350 of Austria-Hungary, his name was Archduke Ferdinand. 01:33:21.650 --> 01:33:23.170 He was assassinated. 01:33:23.750 --> 01:33:28.030 And it was right after that, and it was blamed on a Serb. 01:33:29.070 --> 01:33:33.890 And right after that, Johnny, Austria-Hungary and Germany went to war 01:33:33.890 --> 01:33:39.570 and they sought to annihilate the Serbs in Yugoslavia. 01:33:40.010 --> 01:33:46.150 And then, of course, during World War II, Catholic action under Ante Pavelic, 01:33:46.850 --> 01:33:50.750 who was a Jesuit, basically that's what the guy was. 01:33:51.250 --> 01:33:59.070 Johnny, they killed over a million and a half people, Serbs, in Yugoslavia during 01:33:59.070 --> 01:33:59.870 World War II. 01:34:00.670 --> 01:34:05.730 And so, Johnny, there has been a systematic attempt to exterminate the 01:34:05.730 --> 01:34:13.030 Serbs, the Greek Orthodox peoples of Yugoslavia and Bosnia and that area for 01:34:13.030 --> 01:34:14.730 this entire century. 01:34:15.490 --> 01:34:21.150 And Clinton just finished it up towards the end of the 1990s in cahoots with what 01:34:21.150 --> 01:34:22.530 John Paul told him to do. 01:34:23.350 --> 01:34:26.850 So, it's just been a bloodbath over in that part of the world. 01:34:28.690 --> 01:34:29.270 Incredible. 01:34:31.230 --> 01:34:34.150 See, Johnny, here's one other point. 01:34:34.730 --> 01:34:41.150 We have been, we were told in the Western world that the butcher, the butcher of the 01:34:41.150 --> 01:34:44.850 Balkans was a man named Slobodan Milosevic. 01:34:45.650 --> 01:34:48.890 Johnny, Milosevic was not an angel. 01:34:49.210 --> 01:34:52.110 And I don't want our listeners to misunderstand. 01:34:52.550 --> 01:34:53.550 He was not an angel. 01:34:54.350 --> 01:34:57.450 However, he was not the butcher of the Balkans. 01:34:57.730 --> 01:35:03.050 The butcher of the Balkans, Johnny, who has been butchering the Serbs in that 01:35:03.050 --> 01:35:08.770 area of the world for a long, long time, for centuries, has been the position of 01:35:08.770 --> 01:35:09.230 the Pope. 01:35:11.230 --> 01:35:13.870 He is the butcher of the Balkans. 01:35:15.430 --> 01:35:18.510 How does a man get that much power and hold onto it? 01:35:18.530 --> 01:35:21.730 Because it's not been one Pope, from what I'm understanding. 01:35:23.010 --> 01:35:25.550 I was given a book called The Bad Popes. 01:35:26.010 --> 01:35:29.770 And looking through it, it seems like a lot of these guys were bad. 01:35:33.210 --> 01:35:37.950 Johnny, many, many, many of them have been horrible. 01:35:38.290 --> 01:35:39.410 They've been despicable. 01:35:40.230 --> 01:35:43.810 They've been, you know, committed incest. 01:35:44.010 --> 01:35:46.270 They've had illegitimate children. 01:35:46.530 --> 01:35:48.050 They've had concubines. 01:35:48.650 --> 01:35:50.930 They have robbed people blind. 01:35:51.630 --> 01:35:54.870 They have given people false hope. 01:35:55.630 --> 01:36:00.050 And then at their deathbed, they realize they're lost. 01:36:00.370 --> 01:36:03.830 And it's just horrible, Johnny. 01:36:03.910 --> 01:36:06.190 It's a horrible, horrible situation. 01:36:06.650 --> 01:36:09.410 But, Johnny, how do they gain their power? 01:36:09.510 --> 01:36:10.410 It's very simple. 01:36:10.750 --> 01:36:12.570 They use deceit. 01:36:13.170 --> 01:36:14.450 They use trickery. 01:36:14.890 --> 01:36:16.730 They use murder. 01:36:18.430 --> 01:36:24.830 For example, let's just take as far as it happens with kings and rulers. 01:36:25.010 --> 01:36:27.790 How is it that the Pope gains control over rulers? 01:36:28.510 --> 01:36:34.450 Take a case in point with Queen Elizabeth in England from 1558 to 1603. 01:36:35.170 --> 01:36:39.910 When Elizabeth came to the throne, the Pope said, through the English 01:36:39.910 --> 01:36:47.210 ambassador, he said, look it, if Elizabeth will submit her throne and England into 01:36:47.210 --> 01:36:51.430 the power of the Pope, then everything will go well with her. 01:36:51.530 --> 01:36:58.210 But if she doesn't, we will unleash every weapon of hell to drive her from her 01:36:58.210 --> 01:36:58.530 throne. 01:36:59.310 --> 01:37:02.350 Well, Johnny, history records for us J.E .C. 01:37:02.430 --> 01:37:07.590 Shepard wrote a book called The Babington Plot, in which he shows that in a period 01:37:07.590 --> 01:37:14.730 of about 20 years, there was about 12 assassination attempts on Queen 01:37:14.730 --> 01:37:15.890 Elizabeth's life. 01:37:16.950 --> 01:37:24.910 And when the Pope could not assassinate her in 1580, they combined with Philip II 01:37:24.910 --> 01:37:31.070 of Spain and determined to build the mightiest navy that the world had ever 01:37:31.070 --> 01:37:36.210 seen, and to sail up the western side of Europe, right up to the English Channel, 01:37:36.710 --> 01:37:41.050 and completely destroy the little island nation of England. 01:37:41.630 --> 01:37:46.850 The name of that fleet of ships was called the Armada. 01:37:47.810 --> 01:37:55.390 So, Johnny, when a king or a queen did not go along with Rome's agenda, they were 01:37:55.390 --> 01:37:55.930 killed. 01:37:57.450 --> 01:38:05.330 You know, attempts were made to kill them, poison them, maim them, slaughter them, 01:38:06.390 --> 01:38:10.390 and... Sounds like that Jesuit oath again that we talked about last time. 01:38:11.270 --> 01:38:12.310 Absolutely, Johnny. 01:38:12.790 --> 01:38:13.290 Absolutely. 01:38:13.530 --> 01:38:17.490 Anybody that doesn't go along, anybody that's a liberal or a 01:38:17.490 --> 01:38:25.650 non-Catholic, the Jesuit order says, we will cut, kill, jab, flag, we'll do 01:38:25.650 --> 01:38:26.610 whatever it takes. 01:38:28.450 --> 01:38:35.610 Some of that definition, they would hate you and I, and probably many of our 01:38:35.610 --> 01:38:35.970 listeners. 01:38:37.570 --> 01:38:39.610 Johnny, they wouldn't think twice about it. 01:38:40.510 --> 01:38:46.510 And, you know, for those that wonder, I would encourage them to get the great 01:38:46.510 --> 01:38:48.270 DVDs that we've got out there. 01:38:48.350 --> 01:38:50.210 One about the life of John Huss. 01:38:50.890 --> 01:38:53.590 Another one about the life of John Wycliffe. 01:38:54.350 --> 01:38:59.910 Another one that was recently come out, I don't know how long, but it's called The 01:38:59.910 --> 01:39:00.770 Radicals. 01:39:00.950 --> 01:39:07.890 And it talks about the Anabaptists in the 1520s and 30s and 40s that sought to go 01:39:07.890 --> 01:39:12.430 all the way in following biblical truth. 01:39:13.190 --> 01:39:19.630 And as a result for that, they were maimed, and they were burned, they were 01:39:19.630 --> 01:39:20.130 drowned. 01:39:20.970 --> 01:39:27.630 And the story of The Radicals is about an Anabaptist couple by the name of Michael 01:39:27.630 --> 01:39:34.990 and Margarita Sattler, who, all they wanted to do was follow the word of God 01:39:34.990 --> 01:39:36.650 and share that with other people. 01:39:37.210 --> 01:39:39.870 And for that, Michael Sattler was maimed. 01:39:39.930 --> 01:39:41.930 He had his tongue pulled out of his mouth. 01:39:42.730 --> 01:39:49.190 He was blistered by fire, by coals, and then he was thrown to the flames, 01:39:49.330 --> 01:39:51.930 and his wife, three days later, was drowned. 01:39:52.910 --> 01:39:59.630 So, Johnny, given time and given the opportunity, without the direct 01:39:59.630 --> 01:40:07.170 intervention and protection of God, the papacy will revive those fires of 01:40:07.170 --> 01:40:08.250 persecution again. 01:40:09.690 --> 01:40:11.170 Well, where does all this lead to? 01:40:11.310 --> 01:40:16.910 Does it lead to the Pope being at the head of the world or something? 01:40:17.110 --> 01:40:19.190 Or does it lead to the Mark of the Beast? 01:40:19.450 --> 01:40:20.550 Where does it end? 01:40:21.090 --> 01:40:22.090 What's the end game? 01:40:23.250 --> 01:40:32.050 Well, Johnny, the papacy has been driving for a long, long time to regain control of 01:40:32.050 --> 01:40:35.030 the world, and they're in that process today. 01:40:35.510 --> 01:40:41.890 In fact, Johnny, just as a brief side, what's taking place over in Egypt as you 01:40:41.890 --> 01:40:48.150 and I speak with the protests and the demands for Hosni Mubarak to step down 01:40:48.150 --> 01:40:51.070 from Egypt's leadership role... 01:40:51.070 --> 01:40:51.830 Very sad situation. 01:40:52.730 --> 01:40:59.470 Yeah, Johnny, this has a direct involvement in the final events of Earth's 01:40:59.470 --> 01:40:59.910 history. 01:41:00.810 --> 01:41:07.570 Because, you see, Johnny, the papacy has wanted to control the world from Jerusalem 01:41:08.550 --> 01:41:10.610 for 1,500 years. 01:41:11.470 --> 01:41:18.310 And so, throughout the time since Israel was re-established as a nation in 1948, 01:41:19.590 --> 01:41:27.110 the papacy and the powers of this world have used the country of Egypt once in 56, 01:41:27.890 --> 01:41:32.190 once in 1967, and then again in 1973. 01:41:33.150 --> 01:41:42.410 And in every one of those cases, the plan was for Egypt to annihilate 01:41:42.410 --> 01:41:43.070 Israel. 01:41:44.110 --> 01:41:50.630 And, of course, they have not succeeded in doing that, but it's brought tremendous 01:41:50.630 --> 01:41:52.670 bloodshed, tremendous death. 01:41:53.310 --> 01:41:59.350 And, Johnny, I believe that the powers of this world and the Jesuit order and their 01:41:59.350 --> 01:42:06.250 false interpretation of Daniel chapter 9 and the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy of 01:42:06.250 --> 01:42:15.630 the 490 years... Johnny, their plan is to create a false Armageddon over in the 01:42:15.630 --> 01:42:16.190 Middle East. 01:42:16.330 --> 01:42:22.190 And I believe they're going to get Mubarak out to put an extreme Muslim ruler in over 01:42:22.190 --> 01:42:26.210 there to then attack Israel, make things very bad. 01:42:26.570 --> 01:42:29.210 It will bring the Pope to that part of the world. 01:42:29.550 --> 01:42:34.490 And then I believe we're going to see the devil masquerading as Christ. 01:42:35.490 --> 01:42:38.050 Johnny, that's all a smokescreen. 01:42:39.030 --> 01:42:40.730 That's all a facade. 01:42:40.950 --> 01:42:47.310 It's all a deception to get the world's eyes over in that part of the world. 01:42:47.310 --> 01:42:52.950 And all of what's gone on in Egypt these last couple of weeks has done just that. 01:42:53.290 --> 01:42:55.210 Everybody's eyes are over there now. 01:42:55.650 --> 01:43:03.850 Well, Johnny, while that's going on, I believe that the mark of the beast is 01:43:03.850 --> 01:43:08.570 going to be pushed sometime not too far distant. 01:43:09.470 --> 01:43:16.110 And, Johnny, that is going to be the great focal point of this whole thing. 01:43:16.230 --> 01:43:20.990 The devil is trying to get everybody focused on what's going on over there. 01:43:21.890 --> 01:43:29.490 But the great final issue that will separate every single person on this 01:43:29.490 --> 01:43:32.550 planet will center around the mark of the beast. 01:43:33.770 --> 01:43:41.310 Well, let me ask you this because I had a fellow say to me one time, and you can 01:43:41.310 --> 01:43:42.730 tell me if he was right or wrong. 01:43:43.350 --> 01:43:49.530 He said, if you will keep the Ten Commandments as written by the finger of 01:43:49.530 --> 01:43:53.510 God, you will not receive the mark of the beast. 01:43:56.070 --> 01:44:02.230 I would absolutely agree with that, Johnny, if we rightly understand all ten 01:44:02.230 --> 01:44:03.310 of God's commandments. 01:44:03.870 --> 01:44:10.250 And because, you see, Johnny, in the book of Revelation, you find it in Revelation 01:44:10.250 --> 01:44:14.970 7, verses 1 through 3, where the seal of God is mentioned. 01:44:15.750 --> 01:44:23.570 In Revelation 14, 1 to 5, we are referred to a group of people called the 144,000 01:44:23.570 --> 01:44:28.090 that have their father's name written in their foreheads. 01:44:28.890 --> 01:44:36.190 And right in that framework, Johnny, in Revelation 13, there is reference made 01:44:36.190 --> 01:44:39.430 right around verses 16, 17, and 18. 01:44:39.870 --> 01:44:43.030 There is reference made to the mark of the beast. 01:44:43.430 --> 01:44:50.270 And then in Revelation 14, in verse 9, there is reference made to the mark of the 01:44:50.270 --> 01:44:50.650 beast. 01:44:50.930 --> 01:44:58.750 So, Johnny, in Revelation, we are confronted by either receiving the seal of 01:44:58.750 --> 01:45:01.710 God, or receiving the mark of the beast. 01:45:02.670 --> 01:45:04.670 And both go on the forehead, right? 01:45:05.430 --> 01:45:06.210 What's that, Johnny? 01:45:07.470 --> 01:45:11.190 And the way that you were reading it, both can go on the forehead, right? 01:45:11.990 --> 01:45:12.510 Absolutely. 01:45:13.170 --> 01:45:17.790 You see, Johnny, what these two, the seal of God and the mark of the beast, 01:45:18.210 --> 01:45:26.730 they represent a person standing before God in a spiritual sense. 01:45:27.070 --> 01:45:34.150 We'll get to what the physical outward mark is, but both of those things, 01:45:34.290 --> 01:45:39.430 Johnny, whether it be the seal of God or the mark of the beast, they represent a 01:45:39.430 --> 01:45:42.390 person's experience with God. 01:45:42.690 --> 01:45:51.090 The seal of God, Johnny, represents people in submission to the authority and control 01:45:51.090 --> 01:45:53.710 of Jesus Christ and Him alone. 01:45:54.650 --> 01:46:00.230 The mark of the beast represents the mindset of humanity that says, 01:46:00.490 --> 01:46:04.470 God, I'm going to do things my way. 01:46:04.970 --> 01:46:10.350 I am going to live in rebellion against you, and I expect you to save me. 01:46:10.510 --> 01:46:16.670 So, Johnny, the fascinating thing about the mark of the beast and the seal of God 01:46:16.670 --> 01:46:22.130 is that, and it gets back to what this gentleman told you once before, 01:46:22.230 --> 01:46:27.150 if you're keeping all 10 of God's commandments through faith in the power of 01:46:27.150 --> 01:46:30.950 Jesus Christ, then you will receive the seal of God. 01:46:31.370 --> 01:46:39.110 You see, Johnny, in every legal document, and we experience that all the time. 01:46:40.870 --> 01:46:48.730 If you and I, like for example, when I need to go get my passport so I can 01:46:48.730 --> 01:46:55.210 go overseas to preach or speak somewhere, well, I have to get certain papers signed, 01:46:55.390 --> 01:46:57.490 and I have to get them notarized. 01:46:58.590 --> 01:47:05.490 And so the notary seals the document and says it's a legal document. 01:47:06.170 --> 01:47:13.250 And contained in every legal document, Johnny, within every seal that makes a 01:47:13.250 --> 01:47:19.470 document official and binding, every document has to have that seal. 01:47:19.770 --> 01:47:26.750 And the seal, Johnny, contains the person's name, it contains the person's 01:47:26.750 --> 01:47:31.170 title, and it contains the person's area of jurisdiction. 01:47:32.070 --> 01:47:38.990 Well, Johnny, within the 10 commandment law of God, there is one of God's 10 01:47:38.990 --> 01:47:42.190 commandments that contains his seal. 01:47:42.990 --> 01:47:50.110 And that commandment, Johnny, it mentions God's name, it mentions his title, 01:47:50.290 --> 01:47:54.410 or who he is, and it mentions his area of jurisdiction. 01:47:55.430 --> 01:47:59.970 Now, Johnny, if you go through all 10 of God's commandments, there's only one 01:47:59.970 --> 01:48:06.810 commandment that contains the seal of God, and that's the fourth commandment. 01:48:07.730 --> 01:48:15.610 Because we read in Exodus chapter 20 verses 8 through 11, the Bible says, 01:48:15.710 --> 01:48:18.150 remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. 01:48:18.770 --> 01:48:24.130 Six days shalt thou labor and do all thy work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath 01:48:24.130 --> 01:48:25.290 of the Lord thy God. 01:48:25.410 --> 01:48:30.330 In it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, 01:48:30.490 --> 01:48:35.270 nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy ox, nor the 01:48:35.270 --> 01:48:37.090 stranger that's within thy gates. 01:48:38.230 --> 01:48:41.990 And then the Bible says, Johnny, and this contains the seal. 01:48:42.310 --> 01:48:48.210 It says, for in six days the Lord, now there's his name, he's the Lord, 01:48:48.610 --> 01:48:54.790 the Lord made, there's his title, he's the creator, he made. 01:48:55.310 --> 01:49:01.230 Now, his area of jurisdiction, it says the Lord made heaven and earth, 01:49:01.810 --> 01:49:04.590 the sea, and all that in them is. 01:49:05.670 --> 01:49:11.210 God's area of jurisdiction, Johnny, is the heavens and the earth and the sea 01:49:11.210 --> 01:49:12.990 and all that's in them. 01:49:13.490 --> 01:49:15.170 That's his area of jurisdiction. 01:49:15.830 --> 01:49:23.670 So, Johnny, the seal of God is the seventh day Sabbath, which is Saturday. 01:49:25.210 --> 01:49:26.690 Whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean Saturday? 01:49:26.950 --> 01:49:28.450 Don't everybody go to church on Sunday? 01:49:28.610 --> 01:49:29.070 Most everybody? 01:49:30.470 --> 01:49:38.390 Well, Johnny, people have misunderstood and have been deluded for centuries 01:49:38.390 --> 01:49:45.370 because from way back, Johnny, in the fourth century, there was a man who 01:49:45.370 --> 01:49:53.710 came along and he was a Roman emperor and he saw his empire falling apart and it was 01:49:53.710 --> 01:49:59.030 collapsing, it was economically, it was falling, it was immoral, 01:49:59.250 --> 01:50:07.350 it was a welfare society, it was a society where women wanted to be equal with men, 01:50:08.030 --> 01:50:12.710 it was just a very immoral, immoral empire. 01:50:13.270 --> 01:50:19.810 And so, this emperor, Johnny, saw this free fall of this empire, of the Roman 01:50:19.810 --> 01:50:24.130 empire, and he said, what am I going to do to bring this empire together? 01:50:24.670 --> 01:50:28.550 What am I going to do to make it strong? 01:50:29.570 --> 01:50:34.210 And so, in 321, Johnny, this Roman emperor, his name was Constantine, 01:50:35.090 --> 01:50:40.870 he set up the first, what he called the venerable day of the sun. 01:50:41.250 --> 01:50:46.770 It was the first Sunday law, Johnny, that has ever been passed in the history 01:50:46.770 --> 01:50:47.570 of humanity. 01:50:48.410 --> 01:50:56.430 And Constantine passed this Sunday law, Johnny, to try to bring his empire 01:50:56.430 --> 01:51:03.050 together, to bring unity and strength to his crumbling Roman empire. 01:51:03.650 --> 01:51:12.230 And Johnny, over the centuries, the Catholic Church used the decree of 01:51:12.230 --> 01:51:17.170 Constantine in the 4th century, and they used it in various church 01:51:17.170 --> 01:51:24.730 councils, Nicaea, Laodicea, and others, to push the seventh-day Sabbath down, 01:51:25.170 --> 01:51:28.850 and to exalt the first day of the week, or Sunday. 01:51:30.690 --> 01:51:38.510 And even, Johnny, as one studies the Reformation, there were men in the 1520s 01:51:38.510 --> 01:51:44.550 and 30s, they were Sabbatarian Anabaptists, that were promoting the 01:51:44.550 --> 01:51:49.510 seventh-day Sabbath, because they said, that's the biblical day that we should 01:51:49.510 --> 01:51:53.150 worship on, the seventh-day Sabbath, or Saturday. 01:51:54.010 --> 01:52:02.250 Well, Johnny, the people that established what we know of today as the Sunday 01:52:02.250 --> 01:52:04.850 Sabbath, this is how it happened. 01:52:06.030 --> 01:52:13.370 In the 16th century, on the one hand, you had the Catholic Church, who had been 01:52:13.370 --> 01:52:16.490 advocating Sunday-keeping for centuries. 01:52:17.210 --> 01:52:23.010 In the middle of the road, excuse me, on the other side, you had the Sabbatarian 01:52:23.010 --> 01:52:28.670 Anabaptists, who were saying, if we're going to only accept the Word of God for 01:52:28.670 --> 01:52:32.730 what we're going to believe, then we're going to go to church on the seventh-day 01:52:32.730 --> 01:52:33.130 Sabbath. 01:52:33.650 --> 01:52:35.610 Well, Johnny, in the middle of those... 01:52:35.610 --> 01:52:37.930 But don't the Word of God authorize Sunday? 01:52:39.090 --> 01:52:43.610 The Bible does not authorize Sunday in any way, shape, or form, Johnny. 01:52:44.330 --> 01:52:49.290 We could go through in another meeting and look at all the first-day texts in 01:52:49.290 --> 01:52:51.110 Scripture, none of them... 01:52:51.110 --> 01:52:52.510 I would like to do that. 01:52:52.830 --> 01:52:57.170 Now, not that I don't believe you, but I would like to check this out myself, 01:52:57.350 --> 01:53:00.750 and I'm sure the people listening would like to check this out, too. 01:53:02.410 --> 01:53:07.950 And I'd love to have you back on and come back and tell you what I found. 01:53:09.250 --> 01:53:11.850 Johnny, I would be very happy to do that. 01:53:11.930 --> 01:53:15.290 In fact, we can set up a time, and the next time I come on, we could do 01:53:15.290 --> 01:53:15.590 that. 01:53:16.070 --> 01:53:22.050 But the Bible, Johnny, in about eight or nine places where it refers to the first 01:53:22.050 --> 01:53:30.350 day of the week, in no way, shape, or form, exalts or tells people that the 01:53:30.350 --> 01:53:32.590 day for worship has now changed. 01:53:32.950 --> 01:53:39.850 What actually happened, Johnny, is that in the 16th century, the Catholics 01:53:39.850 --> 01:53:42.170 were saying, we've got to go to church on Sunday. 01:53:42.730 --> 01:53:47.150 The Sabbatarian Anabaptists were saying, no, we've got to keep the seventh-day 01:53:47.150 --> 01:53:47.550 Sabbath. 01:53:48.090 --> 01:53:53.270 Well, what many of the Reformers did, from Ulrich Zwingli, Martin Luther, 01:53:53.990 --> 01:54:00.230 John Calvin, and then the Puritans in England, what they came along and said 01:54:00.230 --> 01:54:05.670 was, they said, well, we don't want to follow the Papists, because we know that's 01:54:05.670 --> 01:54:07.850 wrong, because that's a tradition of Rome. 01:54:08.050 --> 01:54:13.070 But we don't want to go with the Anabaptists, because they're saying that 01:54:13.070 --> 01:54:17.010 people need to be re-baptized, and we don't want to do that. 01:54:17.490 --> 01:54:19.610 So they were in a dilemma. 01:54:20.550 --> 01:54:26.830 And so what they created, it was right around 1550, 1560, they created what they 01:54:26.830 --> 01:54:28.590 called the Sunday Sabbath. 01:54:29.750 --> 01:54:38.250 And Johnny, for the last 450 years, this world has been plagued by people who, 01:54:38.610 --> 01:54:46.110 with no basis in the Word of God whatsoever, have declared the Sunday to be 01:54:46.110 --> 01:54:47.470 the actual Sabbath. 01:54:48.530 --> 01:54:54.470 And, you know, Johnny, they've tried desperately to find reasons for why, 01:54:55.010 --> 01:54:59.250 and so they've come up with, well, when John said in Revelation 1.10, 01:54:59.750 --> 01:55:04.530 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, you know, they've said, well, see, 01:55:04.630 --> 01:55:06.170 the Lord's Day is Sunday. 01:55:06.770 --> 01:55:13.510 Well, Johnny, in Mark 2, 27 and 28, Christ made it very clear that He was Lord 01:55:13.510 --> 01:55:15.170 of the Sabbath. 01:55:16.270 --> 01:55:20.710 So when John was... So does it really make that big of a difference, one day against 01:55:20.710 --> 01:55:21.130 another? 01:55:21.990 --> 01:55:32.530 Well, Johnny, it comes down to the Sabbath is a sign of reverence and submission to 01:55:32.530 --> 01:55:33.630 God's authority. 01:55:34.530 --> 01:55:40.470 Sunday, Johnny, is a sign of people saying, God, I'm going to do it my way. 01:55:40.970 --> 01:55:46.890 I'm going to choose rebellion against what you have said, and I want you to still 01:55:46.890 --> 01:55:47.610 accept me. 01:55:47.790 --> 01:55:54.450 So, Johnny, one is a sign, the Sabbath, which is Saturday, it's a sign of loyalty. 01:55:56.110 --> 01:55:58.510 Sunday... So it's kind of like Cain and Abel again. 01:55:59.350 --> 01:56:01.910 It comes back to Cain and Abel, absolutely. 01:56:02.190 --> 01:56:08.170 Because I remember, you know, years ago reading that God had told Abel to bring a 01:56:08.170 --> 01:56:12.670 sacrifice, and he brought one of his his sheep or whatever he was looking after in 01:56:12.670 --> 01:56:13.110 the field. 01:56:14.050 --> 01:56:17.770 And Cain was supposed to bring an offering, and he brought fruits. 01:56:19.570 --> 01:56:20.690 Absolutely, Johnny. 01:56:23.010 --> 01:56:34.590 This issue, Johnny, over loyalty, over obedience, versus disobedience and 01:56:34.590 --> 01:56:39.730 rebellion to God's authority, it's as old as Cain and Abel. 01:56:40.730 --> 01:56:44.610 And Cain, he was marked. 01:56:45.150 --> 01:56:50.890 Genesis chapter 4 tells us that he was marked, and it was a mark of rebellion 01:56:50.890 --> 01:56:52.890 against the authority of God. 01:56:53.490 --> 01:56:58.950 Just as the people down at the end of time will be marked with the mark of the beast. 01:56:59.830 --> 01:57:04.850 Well, that seems kind of curious, because he got a mark, and then he ended 01:57:04.850 --> 01:57:09.950 up persecuting his brother, who had done things the right way. 01:57:10.990 --> 01:57:14.870 It almost seems like that would be a parallel from what you read there in 01:57:14.870 --> 01:57:19.190 Revelation 13, where it talks about the mark of the beast. 01:57:20.130 --> 01:57:21.210 Absolutely, Johnny. 01:57:22.410 --> 01:57:27.710 Cain ended up killing, because he couldn't stand what Abel was doing. 01:57:27.910 --> 01:57:33.830 It convicted him that what he was doing was wrong, and so Cain ended up killing 01:57:33.830 --> 01:57:34.810 his brother Abel. 01:57:35.450 --> 01:57:40.290 And Johnny, that scenario in Genesis 4 has been repeated throughout history, 01:57:40.590 --> 01:57:46.650 and it is being repeated today, and it will become very flagrant in 01:57:46.650 --> 01:57:53.150 America in the very near future, that this issue of Sabbath, the seventh 01:57:53.150 --> 01:57:58.850 day Sabbath, which is Saturday, versus the first day of the week, 01:57:58.930 --> 01:58:01.850 which is Sunday, which has no scriptural authority. 01:58:02.550 --> 01:58:06.410 Johnny, this will become the great issue that will divide all of mankind. 01:58:07.730 --> 01:58:09.070 Well, this is true. 01:58:09.170 --> 01:58:12.970 This really is the greatest conspiracy of all time, the biggest cover-up. 01:58:13.810 --> 01:58:15.230 Oh, absolutely it is, Johnny. 01:58:16.330 --> 01:58:24.310 Surely, there's got to be... I mean, half the world obviously couldn't know 01:58:24.310 --> 01:58:24.790 this. 01:58:26.190 --> 01:58:33.270 Johnny, the great bulk of humanity has no idea, and the devil is desperately... 01:58:33.270 --> 01:58:38.430 today, Johnny, and this fits right in with all kinds of current events that we watch. 01:58:39.150 --> 01:58:44.750 The devil is desperate today to try to convince the world that the great evil 01:58:44.750 --> 01:58:51.450 power in our world today is Islam, because the papacy and apostate 01:58:51.450 --> 01:58:58.890 Protestants are in the process of setting up a Sunday law in America, and then it 01:58:58.890 --> 01:59:01.310 will simultaneously go around the world. 01:59:02.170 --> 01:59:04.810 And he's... How will they get the Muslims to do that? 01:59:05.890 --> 01:59:06.710 What's that, Johnny? 01:59:07.250 --> 01:59:09.430 How will they get the Muslims to do that? 01:59:10.210 --> 01:59:11.910 To embrace Sunday? 01:59:12.910 --> 01:59:13.730 Yes, sir. 01:59:14.470 --> 01:59:16.410 Okay, very simply, Johnny. 01:59:16.510 --> 01:59:22.770 There's something... there's a glue, and we find it... it's mentioned in 01:59:22.770 --> 01:59:24.010 Revelation 16. 01:59:25.030 --> 01:59:31.890 The glue, Johnny, that will unite all heathen religions of the world, 01:59:32.050 --> 01:59:37.510 all sun worshippers in this world, they will all be united through the 01:59:37.510 --> 01:59:40.650 apparitions of demon spirits. 01:59:41.410 --> 01:59:47.150 And we've been watching those for decades, almost a hundred years, primarily through 01:59:47.150 --> 01:59:48.850 the apparitions of Mary. 01:59:49.490 --> 01:59:54.670 And, Johnny, this gets into a whole other subject that has to do with what happens 01:59:54.670 --> 01:59:55.930 when a person dies. 01:59:56.490 --> 01:59:59.810 The Bible is clear that when a person dies, they sleep. 02:00:00.250 --> 02:00:05.950 But the heathen religions of the world have adopted the idea that comes straight 02:00:05.950 --> 02:00:11.910 from Greek mythology and Greek theosophy that men are immortal. 02:00:12.410 --> 02:00:14.270 The Bible does not teach that. 02:00:14.350 --> 02:00:18.410 The Bible says that God only has immortality. 02:00:18.410 --> 02:00:22.190 That's 1 Timothy 1.17 and 1 Timothy 6.16. 02:00:22.670 --> 02:00:26.670 The Bible is clear that when we die, we sleep. 02:00:27.790 --> 02:00:30.730 And... Boy, this gets deeper and deeper and deeper as we go. 02:00:31.610 --> 02:00:33.170 Oh, indeed it does, Johnny. 02:00:33.430 --> 02:00:34.430 Indeed it does. 02:00:34.450 --> 02:00:38.850 I can say one thing, you know, you say the Bible says that people sleep 02:00:38.850 --> 02:00:39.470 when they die. 02:00:40.170 --> 02:00:44.650 A few years back, I had a heart attack, and I died twice. 02:00:45.990 --> 02:00:50.050 And I've got to say, you know, there was no tunnel of light with Grandma 02:00:50.050 --> 02:00:50.590 and Elvis. 02:00:51.290 --> 02:00:54.110 It just got black, and I didn't know anything. 02:00:54.910 --> 02:00:57.550 I wouldn't have known if I'd been dead 10,000 years. 02:00:58.210 --> 02:01:01.790 But after they resuscitated me, you know, I felt rested. 02:01:01.950 --> 02:01:05.330 I felt as though I'd had 10 hours of the best sleep in the world. 02:01:07.970 --> 02:01:13.990 Well, Johnny, the Bible, in Ecclesiastes chapter 9, the Bible says, For the living 02:01:13.990 --> 02:01:18.210 know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything. 02:01:18.790 --> 02:01:19.710 That's in Ecclesiastes 9 verse 5. 02:01:19.710 --> 02:01:21.130 Well, I definitely didn't know anything. 02:01:22.010 --> 02:01:22.630 Sure. 02:01:23.110 --> 02:01:29.870 And, you know, in the New Testament, when one of Jesus' friends named Lazarus 02:01:29.870 --> 02:01:36.050 died, he told the disciples, he said, Lazarus is not dead. 02:01:36.170 --> 02:01:36.810 He's sleeping. 02:01:37.250 --> 02:01:41.670 And the disciples said, Oh, that's great, you know, so we can go see him. 02:01:41.690 --> 02:01:42.870 And then Christ looked at him. 02:01:42.950 --> 02:01:48.110 He said, Guys, Lazarus is dead, but I'm going to go wake him out of his 02:01:48.110 --> 02:01:48.530 sleep. 02:01:48.890 --> 02:01:53.130 So Christ referred Johnny to death as a sleep. 02:01:53.690 --> 02:01:57.410 And but, Johnny, that that is the glue. 02:01:58.130 --> 02:02:04.610 In visiting Middle East countries, Johnny, you find that whether it's 02:02:04.610 --> 02:02:12.810 Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or the Muslims, they all agree on one 02:02:12.810 --> 02:02:13.270 thing. 02:02:13.350 --> 02:02:17.810 And that is that Mary is sacred, that Mary is holy. 02:02:18.510 --> 02:02:27.210 And they all believe in the demon apparitions of this being that claims to 02:02:27.210 --> 02:02:27.870 be Mary. 02:02:28.710 --> 02:02:30.850 When in actuality, she's Jesus' mother. 02:02:31.130 --> 02:02:33.970 What doesn't the Bible say that she is in heaven or something? 02:02:35.050 --> 02:02:37.670 The Bible does not say that at all, Johnny. 02:02:38.250 --> 02:02:40.450 The Bible does not say that at all. 02:02:41.270 --> 02:02:43.690 The Bible is utterly silent. 02:02:44.170 --> 02:02:51.750 The Bible, of course, tells us that Mary played a key role in being the avenue 02:02:51.750 --> 02:02:54.550 through which the Son of God would come into this world. 02:02:55.330 --> 02:02:59.030 Mary was a servant of God. 02:02:59.230 --> 02:03:00.910 She was a child of God. 02:03:01.590 --> 02:03:05.030 And that's why God used her, because she was obedient. 02:03:06.290 --> 02:03:15.650 And but as for Mary being in heaven today, the Bible says absolutely nothing to that 02:03:15.650 --> 02:03:16.130 effect. 02:03:17.190 --> 02:03:17.270 Nothing at all. 02:03:17.270 --> 02:03:21.650 So if she's not in heaven, then it would, if she's sleeping in the grave, 02:03:22.770 --> 02:03:25.410 then something's impersonating Mary then. 02:03:26.570 --> 02:03:26.950 Absolutely. 02:03:27.350 --> 02:03:27.990 That kind of makes sense. 02:03:28.030 --> 02:03:31.710 You said that would be the glue, because I remember watching the news, 02:03:31.990 --> 02:03:34.290 and unfortunately, I watch the news way too much. 02:03:34.710 --> 02:03:44.610 When Pope John Paul II died, they said that Muslims in Iraq were flocking to 02:03:44.610 --> 02:03:49.710 Catholic Church to pray to Mary for the soul of Pope John Paul II. 02:03:50.710 --> 02:03:53.810 So the Muslims actually hold her in a high esteem? 02:03:55.230 --> 02:03:55.910 Absolutely. 02:03:57.190 --> 02:03:59.430 It's incredible, Johnny, to watch. 02:03:59.950 --> 02:04:00.910 You see, Johnny... 02:04:01.770 --> 02:04:04.070 It's kind of like a puzzle all fitting together. 02:04:05.050 --> 02:04:10.910 See, Johnny, every heathen religion throughout the world, it doesn't matter 02:04:10.910 --> 02:04:17.810 which one, whether it's Islam, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, 02:04:20.030 --> 02:04:27.390 Zoroastrianism, every heathen eastern religion, you name it, every western 02:04:27.390 --> 02:04:33.990 religion, for that matter, Johnny, there is the exaltation of a female 02:04:33.990 --> 02:04:36.490 goddess in every religion. 02:04:37.010 --> 02:04:43.850 And so, Johnny, as the apparitions of Mary blanket and pelt this world, Johnny, 02:04:44.070 --> 02:04:51.490 within that demon spirit that's manifesting itself as Mary, every single 02:04:51.490 --> 02:04:58.190 religious group around this planet identifies with that female deity. 02:04:59.410 --> 02:05:02.850 And that's what all heathen religions have in common. 02:05:02.850 --> 02:05:10.810 The Queen of Heaven, as the Book of Jeremiah refers to this demon exaltation 02:05:10.810 --> 02:05:12.970 of a female goddess. 02:05:14.090 --> 02:05:18.590 And that's what all the world has in common, Johnny, all the religions of the 02:05:18.590 --> 02:05:18.850 world. 02:05:19.390 --> 02:05:26.930 And that is what will be used to bring all of the religions of the world into 02:05:26.930 --> 02:05:31.390 rebellion against the authority of the God of Heaven. 02:05:32.170 --> 02:05:35.370 And the exaltation of Sunday worship. 02:05:37.070 --> 02:05:41.430 Wow, I put on the disclaimer that you'd need thick skin for this one, but my 02:05:41.430 --> 02:05:45.410 goodness, this has really been shocking. 02:05:48.390 --> 02:05:52.230 Where would a person even look for evidence that this is true or false? 02:05:54.330 --> 02:05:56.690 Johnny, there's a host of places. 02:05:56.910 --> 02:06:00.670 If somebody would like to write to me, I mean, I've got all kinds of books that 02:06:00.670 --> 02:06:06.690 lay it right out from Genesis to Revelation showing this great controversy, 02:06:07.470 --> 02:06:13.370 this war that has been going on between the principles of heaven versus the 02:06:13.370 --> 02:06:15.290 principles of evil. 02:06:16.210 --> 02:06:20.810 And, you know, I'm sure if somebody wanted to write to me, I could give you my 02:06:20.810 --> 02:06:21.370 address. 02:06:22.310 --> 02:06:29.110 I'd be happy to send people books, DVDs that would help them to understand 02:06:29.110 --> 02:06:34.690 these issues very clearly so that people could have hope, Johnny, so that people 02:06:34.690 --> 02:06:41.910 could have prophecy as a light that God intended it to be that would shine in the 02:06:41.910 --> 02:06:47.970 darkness of this world and give people understanding as to where we're heading 02:06:47.970 --> 02:06:48.410 today. 02:06:49.610 --> 02:06:50.950 Well, I would love to do it. 02:06:51.090 --> 02:06:53.290 We're down to our final 60 seconds. 02:06:53.390 --> 02:06:58.650 If you could give us that address and we'll try to work out a date to have you 02:06:58.650 --> 02:07:02.730 back on the show because, man, I get the feeling that you've only 02:07:02.730 --> 02:07:04.070 scratched the surface here. 02:07:05.010 --> 02:07:06.290 Johnny, there's so much. 02:07:06.470 --> 02:07:08.550 My address is P.O. 02:07:08.610 --> 02:07:10.610 Box 1417. 02:07:11.630 --> 02:07:16.550 The town is Eustis, that's E-U-S-T-I-S. 02:07:17.110 --> 02:07:18.490 The state is Florida. 02:07:19.170 --> 02:07:22.250 The zip code is 32727. 02:07:23.250 --> 02:07:27.030 Be happy to send any literature and DVDs that you'd like. 02:07:28.330 --> 02:07:33.870 Well, I appreciate you being back on the show and I definitely have to get some of 02:07:33.870 --> 02:07:36.650 that information because that is deep stuff. 02:07:37.450 --> 02:07:41.670 And, you know, everybody out there listening, if this is true, you owe it to 02:07:41.670 --> 02:07:46.210 yourself to actually check it out and see because I don't think any of us want the 02:07:46.210 --> 02:07:46.990 mark of the beast. 02:07:47.490 --> 02:07:50.530 I don't think any of us want to be deceived in any way. 02:07:52.110 --> 02:07:59.090 But, you know, we really need to just to check it out. 02:07:59.210 --> 02:08:00.950 I mean, I really don't know what to say. 02:08:01.030 --> 02:08:02.790 I'm kind of taken aback by it tonight. 02:08:04.250 --> 02:08:12.110 So I guess in closing, I just say to America and the world, whoever's 02:08:12.110 --> 02:08:17.050 listening, until next time, take care of yourself and each other. 02:08:17.870 --> 02:08:18.810 Thank you again, Bill. 02:08:20.290 --> 02:08:21.510 God bless you, Johnny. 02:08:21.610 --> 02:08:22.050 Bye-bye. 02:08:23.230 --> 02:08:23.410 All right. 02:08:23.430 --> 02:08:23.810 Bye-bye.