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Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done.
Lay your weary head to rest, don't you cry no more.
Well, good evening everyone and welcome to another edition of Wayward News Network.
I'm your host, Johnny Henderson.
Here we are on the cusp of a new year, just a few hours away from 2011.
If you're out partying and carrying on this evening, I really want to encourage
you to be responsible.
Don't drink and drive, there's a lot of innocent people out there.
Nobody needs to be hurt because you want to be careless.
Before we get started tonight, I want to take just a couple of minutes
and thank a few people It's been a very trying year and it's been hard to get a
lot of things done, but every week my wife consistently makes sure that the show is
ready to go so that I can bring the information to you that I do.
So I want to thank my wife and my family.
And I want to remember our friends down in the Gulf who've been affected by the BP
oil spill, Kendra and Vicky, Johnny and Greg.
These people down there are having a really, really hard time.
And I want to tell them really quick because I know there's been some issues.
Some people use a medical treatment called MMS and others don't.
I don't want to weigh in too heavy, but I will say that I used MMS when the
swine flu outbreak was at its peak.
Everyone I worked with was sick with swine flu.
And while I used MMS, I never got sick once.
So I can say that it does have some benefits.
Give it a chance.
I'm not a doctor, but I will say that it worked for me.
I also want to thank my friends Steve and Nathan and Rick and Gene and Cal.
I want to thank everyone who's took the time to be a guest on this show and
everybody who's took the time to listen.
And I want to thank some other friends of mine who have just always been there when
I needed them to.
I want to thank Angel and Michelle and Monica and Lindsay and Jacinda and Tish.
I appreciate, you know, y'all being my friends.
And I hope you have a much better year than you had last year.
Having said that, I've really enjoyed doing the show.
But I've recently come into more information.
And it's a bit controversial.
Tonight's show may sting a little bit if you've never heard any of this
information.
So I'm not pointing fingers at anybody.
But I would not be doing you a favor if I didn't report the things that I've
learned.
With me tonight is pastor and author Bill Hughes.
Now, Bill has written a couple of fascinating books.
And if you have the opportunity to get them, I would really recommend picking
those books up and checking them out.
One is called The Enemy Unmasked.
And the other is The Secret Terrorist.
Now, we always hear that our enemy is Middle Eastern men with turbans.
Now, they may have some beef against us.
But they are not the only enemies of humanity.
And tonight we're going to learn a little bit about who our secret enemy is.
Bill, welcome to the show.
Johnny, it's good to be with you tonight.
And it's a blessing to me to have you on.
I never dared dream that I would get you on, you know.
I'm sure that you're a very busy man, you know, being an author and a pastor and
all the million other things that you do.
Well, Johnny, it's nice to be with you.
And, you know, as you stated in your opening remarks, your wife doing such a
very admirable job.
And, you know, she called me, I think, Johnny, it was at least a month ago and
asked if I could be on New Year's Eve.
And, you know, so she's really on the ball, Johnny.
And you've got a fine lady there at your side, as well as I do down here in
Florida.
Because I know with all the many and sundry things, Johnny, that I do from
preaching and traveling across the world and writing books and getting materials
out to people, you know, it's a real blessing to have a special lady behind
you.
And my wife has stood with me, and it's been a great blessing to me,
too.
So I'm glad I can be with you tonight, Johnny, and, you know, go over some of
this material from my books.
Very good.
And I do consider myself very fortunate to have the wife that I have.
I would be like a paraplegic without her.
I really would.
Well, anyway, Bill, tell us a little bit about yourself, you know, for those who
don't know any more about you than other than what I've said.
Johnny, basically, I've been a teacher for most of my professional life.
I have done some pastoral work, as well.
And then I've been in ministry for the last 25 years, starting back in 1985,
up in the area of the northeast part of this country, in Pennsylvania,
New Jersey.
And then have pastored and taught in South Lake Tahoe, California, and then in
Northern California.
And now, currently, I'm back here in Florida.
And very, very thankful, Johnny, because not only having written books and
traveled many different places around the world, from Africa to the Middle East,
to Europe, Central America, the Far East, Australia, New Zealand, where I've had the
privilege to preach.
But I've also, Johnny, had the great blessing of being able to send literature
into over 100 countries across the world.
So, I feel very, very fortunate, Johnny.
God has been very good to me.
And, you know, in writing the books that I have, as you mentioned, the material is
somewhat volatile.
It either upsets people or it just absolutely galvanizes and thrills people.
But, nevertheless...
I don't think you're still alive writing those books.
Well, you know, Johnny, I've had several threats that have been made.
I had some meetings a few years ago out in Oregon, and before I went out there to
speak, we mass-mailed my first book, The Secret Terrorist, and invited people
to the meetings I was going to have.
And there were threats made, Johnny.
People said, if Hugh shows up to the meeting, we'll burn the building down.
You know, I've had people, after they've gotten my book in the mail, they send it
back after having sent it through a shredder, and it looks like spaghetti
noodles.
And then they've attached a sticky note to it, and they've said, you're next.
And then I've had people in law enforcement write to me, and people from
Tallahassee have written to me and said, you know, we're getting all kinds of
complaints about what you've written, and you need to stop.
And I've simply said to them, Johnny, you know, I have three purposes in my
professional life.
Number one is to help people understand what is going on in the past, in the
present, and in the future.
Number two, it's to try to engage people in Bible studies so that they can have
peace and hope for today in Jesus Christ.
And number three, Johnny, it's to help people to be ready for the second coming
of Christ, which I believe is imminent.
I believe the events taking place in our world tell us so.
So, Johnny, that's been my whole goal in writing the books that I have.
And, you know, if people express their displeasure in cruel and deadly ways,
well, you know, they can do that, Johnny.
But I have a mission, you know, I have a purpose for why I'm here.
God's made me, and so he's protected me and taken care of me to do what I'm doing.
Well, I'm glad that he has, because, man, wow, those books.
And we'll get into what's in those books in just a couple of minutes.
But nearly everything in there is 100% documentable.
You can prove everything that you've written in there.
People just do the legwork and the research.
It's amazing to me that so many people would just reject it.
Well, the fact of the matter is, Johnny, and see, Johnny, in writing books
and doing research for many, many years and teaching young people, both junior
high and high school age young people, how to research and how to write papers so
that they could then in turn learn and be able to do it for themselves.
I always demanded of my students, Johnny, that they would always have
support for what they were saying.
They had to be able to back it up, because, you know, as I tell people,
I say, opinions are like noses.
Everybody's got one.
So that doesn't fly, Johnny.
And so, back nearly 10 years ago, when I felt just deeply impressed that a
book needed to be written, and that's when I wrote the book, The Secret Terrorist,
it was crucial to me, Johnny, that if I made any statement that was different or
unique or something you just don't hear, Johnny, I needed to have at least two
witnesses.
I had to have at least two sources that backed up the conclusion that I was
drawing.
And, Johnny, if I didn't have that, if I didn't have at least two witnesses,
I wouldn't put it in my books.
It's strange you say that, because I was reading in the Bible this morning that it
said something to the effect of out of the mouth of two or three witnesses,
the truth will be established.
That was the principle, Johnny, that I went by, not only in my teaching,
but also in my own writing.
And that was the principle that Christ laid down in Scripture.
You've got to have authority, Johnny.
You've got to have witnesses to back it up.
And Christ said that.
So that was very, very important to me.
And I knew that the material I was looking at was volatile.
I knew it was alarming.
I knew it was shocking.
And it's frightening to many, many people.
But, Johnny, let's face it, the material in my books is not what you typically hear
or see in a typical history book in a high school program.
Or a college course.
You just don't read what I have put into these books.
And basically, Johnny, what I've done is gleaned from many, many different sources.
And the people, Johnny, that I've talked about in my books, from presidents to
statesmen to congressmen to Supreme Court justices to famous Americans like Samuel
B.
Morse, who I quote in several chapters of my book.
Johnny, these people are prominent Americans or statesmen that the world is
familiar with.
And I've just looked at them, Johnny, in the light of what they've said and in
the light of trends and what was going on to help people see the true history of
America past, present, and future.
And I've scoured over a lot of the documents that you cite from and tracked
down a lot of source materials, and you are right on the money with this.
Now before we get out of here tonight, I hope you'll tell everybody how they can
actually get a copy of your books.
Oh, Johnny, I'd be happy to do that.
No problem at all.
Johnny, it's crucial.
The material we're dealing with is crucial.
And it demands, Johnny, it demands a high standard.
And I've sought to meet a standard whereby people could say, hey, this is the truth,
and I'm standing on this.
And that's why I've gone and done the research that I have in getting material
and backing up conclusions that I've made.
It's very important to me.
You've been very thorough.
Very, very thorough.
Now I guess everybody's wondering, what are we talking about?
Do you feel like maybe pulling back the veil and giving them a little bit?
Well, I guess, Johnny, to summarize both of my books, you really, Johnny,
would have to go back to the 16th century.
Because the 16th century, Johnny, brought about two religious political
movements that still are with us today, that still, Johnny, today are profoundly
influencing and affecting this entire planet.
And the two movements, Johnny, that I'm referring to, one is the one that
began, basically, you know, as we look at history, we say that the Protestant
Reformation began when Martin Luther stood at the Diet of Worms in 1521 before
Charles V and all the Holy Roman Empire and said, you know, unless you can prove
to me from Scripture or from the clearest of reasoning, he said, I cannot and I will
not retract.
Here I stand.
I can do no other.
May God help me.
Amen.
And, Johnny, when Martin Luther said those words, it literally, it set Europe ablaze
because here was a man who was willing to stand up to the tyranny, to the tyranny
and the evils of the Roman Catholic Church system.
And, you know, Johnny, that Luther got something started and it continued in the
1520s into the 1530s.
And, of course, it's still with us today.
But, Johnny, another group, as Luther and the Protestant Reformation that was coming
from all over Europe, as it started out, Johnny, and just set Europe on fire.
The Roman Catholic Church was tumbling.
It was reeling and it was about to tumble and to die.
And, Johnny, history tells us that in the mid 1530s, the Roman Catholic Church was
looking for anything that it could hold on to, that it could grasp, that could
somehow counter and oppose the Protestant Reformation.
And it was at that time, Johnny, in the mid 1530s, that a man by the name
of Ignatius Loyola created a society which he dubbed the Society of Jesus.
And for some of us who are familiar with this group, which is still with us today,
it's called the Jesuit Order.
And, you know, a lot of people, Johnny, look at this...
They're just a bunch of priests, aren't they?
What's that?
Aren't they just a bunch of priests?
Well, Johnny, that's what a lot of people have been taught.
But Napoleon Bonaparte, and I quote him in my book.
Let me see if I can pull it off real quick here.
Napoleon Bonaparte, now see here, here's an example, Johnny, of what we're
saying.
Napoleon Bonaparte was a, of course, a great French ruler in the 19th century.
You know, a very, very famous man.
Prominent figure from history.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, a book written by General Montelon called The Memorial of the Captivity of
Napoleon at St. Helena, pages 62 and 174.
This is what Napoleon Bonaparte said in this man's book.
He said, the Jesuits are a military organization, not a religious order.
Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery.
And the aim of this organization is power.
Power in its most despotic exercise.
Absolute power, universal power.
Power to control the world by the volition of a single man.
Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms, and at the same time,
the greatest and most enormous of abuses.
The general of the Jesuits insists on being master sovereign over the sovereign.
Wherever the Jesuits are admitted, they will be masters, cost what it may.
It's a very important statement Bonaparte's making there, Johnny.
When the Jesuits are allowed in a country, they will become the rulers.
And it doesn't matter what the cost will be.
If men in their order must die, if there must be wars, if there must be
depressions, if there must be economic collapse, if there must be disasters,
if there must be assassinations.
It makes no difference, Johnny.
Those things will happen until the Jesuits...
Do you think they're at work today?
Oh, Johnny, there's no doubt about it.
There's no doubt about it.
In so many different capacities, Johnny.
And, you know, let me... well, I would just go ahead and answer it.
You've asked.
Johnny, there's so many secret organizations today, and I'll give you a
prime illustration of what I'm talking about.
Back in 2004, there was a presidential election here in the United States of
America.
The Republican candidate for the presidency at that time was George Bush.
His Democratic counterpart was a man by the name of John Kerry.
Now, Americans were told, you have two men running for office.
One's a Republican, one's a Democrat.
They each are promoting a different agenda, and you have a choice as to who
you want to be in the White House for the next four years.
Well, doing a little bit of research about both men, and it was very common knowledge
back at the time they were running, both of those men were part of and had
been initiated into an order of men when they were at Yale University, and it was
called the Order of Skull and Bones.
Well, in doing a little bit of research about skull and bones, skull and bones was
actually created at Yale University in 1831 or 1832 by a man named William
Huntington Russell.
And Russell, prior to forming the Order of Skull and Bones at Yale in 1832,
he had been traveling in Germany and throughout Europe, and he had gone to
several secret society meetings over there, and one of them, it was called the
Thule Death Society, and that was a part of the Illuminati.
So, then when you look at the rise of the Illuminati and who it was that formed the
Illuminati back in the 18th century, it was created by a man named Adam
Weishaupt.
Now, was he not a Jesuit?
Absolutely, he was.
As I quote in my book, The Enemy Unmasked, Adam Weishaupt created the Illuminati in
1776.
Right at the very time, just prior to the American Revolution beginning in July of
1776 with the Declaration of Independence.
But Weishaupt was teaching Roman Catholic canon law at a Jesuit university in
Bavaria, Germany, which was the Jesuit stronghold in Germany in Bavaria.
And the principles of the Illuminati, if you study the principles of the
Illuminati and the principles of the Jesuits, they are virtually identical.
Adam Weishaupt was nothing but a foot soldier for the black Pope at that time,
whose name was Lorenzo Risi.
So, here you have Johnny, you have the Jesuit Order, they created the Illuminati
as a front organization.
The Illuminati then creates the Sewell Death Society in Germany, and then through
William Huntington Russell, it creates another front organization at Yale
University called the Order of Skull and Bones.
And all the young men who are initiated into the Order of Skull and Bones at Yale
University, they have to bow in absolute obeisance to three figures in their
initiation.
The first figure, Johnny, is the head of the Masonic Order.
The second figure is a man who is a figure for the white Pope.
And what I mean by the white Pope is the visible Pope that everybody sees.
In this case, it would be Benedict XVI.
The other caricature or figure that every person must bow in absolute obedience to
in taking their initiation is the Jesuit General, or the black Pope.
Get ready for this interview.
I've tried to do a little bit of research on my own, and what I've found is I think
the current black Pope is a man named Adolfo Pachaz.
Is that correct, or have they changed?
The man I've heard, Johnny, recently was Nicholas Adolphus.
He took over for Peter Hans Kolvenbach.
Nicholas Adolphus, as far as I know.
Adolphus, okay, let me write that down.
But man, some of the stuff that I found just grazing the surface of this study
about the Jesuits, they've been linked to assassinations of American presidents,
the formation of the Federal Reserve, professional football teams, world wars,
what else?
Paris attacks, anything from the World Trade Center to the Pearl Harbor.
I mean, if it's true, these guys have had their hands in everything.
Johnny, as Napoleon Bonaparte said when they come into a country, and I'll read it
again.
It says, wherever the Jesuits are admitted, they will be the masters,
cost what it may.
Their society is by nature dictatorial, therefore it is the irreconcilable enemy
of all constituted authority.
Every act, every crime, however atrocious, is a meritorious work.
You know, I've read that they were linked to the sinking of the Titanic.
Johnny, there's no doubt.
From Pearl Harbor, and we could go into each one of those things.
Johnny, you mentioned assassinations of American presidents, you mentioned the
Twin Towers in 9-11, you mentioned Pearl Harbor, and the sinking of the Titanic.
And Johnny, you know, however you want to go, but we could look at each one of those
things and show beyond a shadow of a doubt, beyond a shadow of a doubt,
the involvement of and the perpetration of all of those heinous crimes against
humanity lay at the footsteps of the Jesuit order.
There's no doubt.
Well, maybe you could give us just a peek at maybe some assassinations, the Titanic,
and the World Trade Center.
That's fine, Johnny.
Actually, I even heard they were involved in the BP oil spill.
Johnny, that I cannot conclusively say, to be very, very frank with you.
I know that there were some Roman Catholics that were involved in the higher
echelons of the BP oil company, but exactly, Johnny...
We're not saying that Roman Catholics are bad people, are we?
Johnny, this has nothing to do, this has absolutely nothing to do with
individual Roman Catholic people.
There are precious, devout, loving Roman Catholics that love Jesus Christ and are
following and living up to all the light that he has given to them.
So, no, we're not talking about individual Roman Catholics at all.
What we're dealing with here, Johnny, is a system.
A system of men that, behind the scenes, plan things and then use various men to
carry out their dastardly deeds.
Off times they have scapegoats.
What's that?
I said, off times they seem to have scapegoats or blame somebody else for it.
Well, Johnny, that's what my book, The Enemy Unmasked, is all about.
Because when you look at, Johnny, for example, you look at communism.
Let's just take that here just briefly.
Most people, Johnny, would say, well, communism was the result of Karl
Marx's book, The Communist Manifesto, written around 1850.
And then from Karl Marx, Vladimir Ulyanov, or Nikolai Lenin, he's the same name,
and Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong in China.
These guys picked up the principles of Karl Marx, and they made the 20th century
a bloodbath in Russia and China.
And so, you know, Johnny, you look at it and you say, well, you know, Lenin and
Stalin and Mao Zedong, they were such evil and awful men.
And so was Karl Marx for creating a communistic form of government.
Well, Johnny, if you go back, if you go back to the 1600s, Johnny, it's historical
fact, it's historical fact, that Jesuit priests started some reductions or small
communities with the Guarani Indians in Paraguay in the 1600s.
And Johnny, it was on those reductions that the Jesuit order perfected the
principles of communism.
And Johnny, it was from those communist reductions in Paraguay with the Guarani
Indians that the Jesuit order made billions of dollars, billions of dollars,
to fight their wars, to assassinate kings, to bribe people to do what they wanted
them to do.
It's a fact of history, Johnny.
Now, what happened was from around 1600 to 1750, the Jesuits perfected those
principles.
Those principles, Johnny, were then incorporated into the Illuminati by Jesuit
foot soldier Adam Weishaupt.
Then, right around the time of the French Revolution in the 1790s, the principles of
communism were used in the French Revolution.
And it was right during that time that a group called Jacobins, or the League of
Just Men, they started to put together the ideas of the Communist Manifesto.
And, Johnny, by the mid-1800s, when Karl Marx wrote that book,
the principles and the actual book had already been written, and Karl Marx's name
was simply put on it.
But, Johnny, communism is the result of the Jesuit reductions in Paraguay.
And that's the reason we're seeing kind of a shift towards socialism and communism in
America now?
Absolutely, Johnny.
Because, see, Johnny, socialism or communism, it's the perfect style of
government for authoritarian tyrants who want to control, absolute control,
over every human being on the face of the earth.
And, you see, Johnny, in a socialist or communist form of government, the
government gets more and more and more control, and government is controlled by a
few people.
And they, in turn, control all the masses of people.
And it makes it so simple, Johnny, for the Jesuit order to rule over a
country that is communistic or socialistic, because all they've got to do
is control a few men, and then they control the entire nation.
And that's why America is going the way it is today.
Now, Johnny, if you want to get back, you asked about assassinations of
presidents, you asked about 9-11, you asked about the Titanic.
We can get into all those at this point now.
Yes, please.
This is very fascinating.
Johnny, there have been several American presidents that have been assassinated.
Now, the ones that we always start with, we say, well, you know, the first
assassination was Abraham Lincoln in April of 1865, right on the heels of the
finishing of the Civil War.
And, of course, Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth in Ford's Theater,
Washington, D.C., April 14 or 15 of 1865.
And then, of course, we say, you know, in 1881, James A.
Garfield was gunned down, and then in 1901, William McKinley was gunned down,
and then in 1963, John F.
Kennedy was gunned down.
And that's true, Johnny, all of those men were shot and killed.
However, Johnny, and I mention this in my book, The Secret Terrorist, that the first
man who almost was assassinated as a president was Andrew Jackson.
Now, Andrew Jackson, as well as any and every American president, Johnny,
they had problems.
They were not perfect men.
Andrew Jackson, of course, was one of the men who led many of the Indian tribes out
of the South and on their terrible trail of tears that ended up in the reservations
of Oklahoma and the Midwest.
So, Andrew Jackson was not an angel.
So, let's make that clear right off.
However, Andrew Jackson, he put his presidency on the line when, in the early
1830s, he went head-to-head with the head of the Federal Reserve at that time,
a man by the name of Nicholas Biddle.
And Nicholas Biddle wanted to reestablish the charter for the Federal Reserve Bank
that had been started right after the War of 1812.
And Andrew Jackson said, no way, the Federal Reserve Bank is destroying
America.
It's in the hands of a few wealthy and powerful men in Europe.
It has nothing to do with America.
All it wants to do is enslave America economically.
So, Andrew Jackson said, no.
And so, Nicholas Biddle and Andrew Jackson went at each other's throats.
And if Nicholas Biddle had not become so arrogant, Johnny, he probably would have
gotten Jackson out of office.
But, the fact is, Andrew Jackson won that battle with Biddle, and he stopped the
reestablishment of the Federal Reserve Bank.
Well, right on the heels of that, in 1835, a man by the name of Richard
Lawrence tried to kill Andrew Jackson.
And Richard Lawrence was promised by wealthy, powerful people in Europe,
and I quoted in my book, The Secret Terrorist, he was told, if you get caught,
we will be sure that you are set free.
Well, Johnny, the thing you have to ask yourself is this.
Number one, who was it, who were the wealthy, powerful people in Europe that
told Richard Lawrence to kill Andrew Jackson?
Well, it's those same wealthy, powerful people that told Richard Lawrence
that, that encouraged him to kill Jackson.
These were the same wealthy, powerful people that were behind and controlling
the Central Bank in the United States.
And as I quote repeatedly in my book, The Secret Terrorist, the Rothschild
family of Europe is that powerful banking family that controlled the Central Bank.
They are like the traitors of the Vatican, aren't they?
Absolutely, they are.
From F.
Tupper Sasse's book, Rulers of Evil, page 161, Sasse says that he looked up in
the Encyclopedia Judaica, the name Rothschild, and it said, these men are the
guardians of the Vatican's treasury.
So, the Rothschilds and the Jesuit order in the Catholic Church work hand in hand.
And where the Rothschilds are, the Jesuits are.
Where the Rothschilds are, the Catholic Church is.
So, they wanted to have a Central Bank in America so they could control the flow of
money.
As Mayor Amschel Rothschild once said, he said, I just believe in the golden
rule.
The one who has the gold makes the rules.
And that's what they sought to do in the United States with the establishment of a
Central Bank.
When Andrew Jackson stood in their way and said there will be no Central Bank in this
country, the Rothschilds were furious, Nicholas Biddle was furious, the Jesuit
order was furious, so they got Richard Lawrence to try to kill Andrew Jackson in
1835.
It's a fact of history.
Now, you come up five years later, the man who won the election of 1840,
his name was William Henry Harrison.
Now, we have to understand, and most people that understand a little bit about
American history understand, that it was at this time, in the 1830s and the 1840s,
that Americans were starting to get agitated over the issue of slavery.
And one man in particular who was really agitating it was a South Carolina
politician by the name of John C.
Calhoun.
And Calhoun was saying that blacks have no rights that white men should respect.
And John C.
Calhoun was telling the people of South Carolina that if they were not being
treated fairly among the representative states, that the people of South Carolina
had every right to secede from the Union.
Well, William Henry Harrison gets into office in 1840, gives his inaugural
address, he's a 67-year-old man, but he's as healthy as a whippersnapper,
and he gets up in his inaugural address, and I quote it in my book, The Secret
Terrorist, let me see if I can find it real quick.
Fascinating statement that he makes.
Yeah, here it is.
This was from William Henry Harrison's inaugural address.
He said this.
Now, those words for us today, we say, well, big deal.
Who cares?
What's the difference?
He's just saying that we're all created equal.
Well, I believe that, you believe that, so what's the issue?
Well, William Henry Harrison said we admit of no government by divine right.
Now, what did he mean by the divine right?
Johnny, throughout the Dark Ages, the Roman Catholic Church believed that
every king that ruled throughout Europe, they were there because of the order of
divine right.
The Catholic Church, because they claim that the Pope is the vicar of Christ,
or the representative of God on earth, they claimed that every ruler ruled their
nation because God, through the Pope, gave it to them.
And because they were put into office by God through the Pope, those kings had to
do exactly as the Pope dictated.
Now, is that a big deal?
Well, you go back to England in the 16th century, during the time of Queen
Elizabeth.
She ruled from 1558 to 1603 in England.
When Queen Elizabeth came into power in England, the Pope at that time,
he said, look, if Elizabeth will make herself and her kingdom a slave or a fife
of the Holy See, then everything will be fine.
We'll get along well.
But if she doesn't, all hell will break loose.
And Johnny, history records for us in a book called The Babington Plot by W.E.C.
Shepard.
Fantastic book.
In that book, that man shows that there were at least 10 to 12 assassination
attempts on the life of Queen Elizabeth during her reign.
And because the Jesuit order in the Catholic Church did not succeed in killing
Elizabeth, they got Philip II of Spain in 1580 to build the most powerful fleet of
ships this world has ever seen.
Do you know what they were called?
What was it?
It's called the Spanish Armada.
I do remember reading about the Spanish Armada.
Well, the reason the Armada was built, Johnny, was so that the Catholic Church,
through their children in Spain, could go right up the western side of
Europe and invade England and take it over, kill Elizabeth, and turn England
back into a slave of the Catholic Church.
Incredible.
They're associated with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, too, aren't they?
Absolutely, Johnny.
Abraham Lincoln believed that black men deserved to have freedom.
And Abraham Lincoln believed in what the Declaration of Independence and the
Constitution said.
Abraham Lincoln believed that we were created equal, and that every man had the
right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Before Abraham Lincoln ever got to Washington, it's a fact of history,
as he was going to Washington, D.C.
there in 1860, 1861, there was a Catholic mob waiting in Baltimore, Maryland,
that when Lincoln would get off the train to take a break, they were going to stab
him to death.
But, of course, that never happened.
Lincoln went on to the White House.
And Lincoln's desire to keep the states together, the papacy hated that.
What the Catholic Church and the Jesuit Order wanted with the Civil War was to
split this nation in half so that both sides would be weakened by their disunity.
And by them being split in half, the Catholic Church could control both
sides.
And Lincoln kept the states together.
Of course, the 11 southern states seceded, but Lincoln strove with all he had to get
the southern states back into the Union so that there could be the United States.
Well, now, they hated Lincoln long before that, too, didn't they?
What's that, Johnny?
Didn't the Jesuit Order hate Lincoln prior to his becoming president?
Because I was reading something about a priest named Charles Chenequay.
Absolutely, Johnny.
Back in the middle of the 1850s, there was a Catholic priest who wrote a
fantastic book called Fifty Years in the Church of Rome by Charles Chenequay.
And Charles Chenequay was a Catholic priest.
He did not drink alcohol.
He was the Apostle of Temperance for Canada, for the Catholic Churches in
Canada.
And he would go throughout the Catholic Churches of Canada and encourage the
Catholic people to not drink.
Well, that was fine for the people, but then when Chenequay would go to
meetings of the priests and they would be sitting at the table just guzzling bottles
of alcohol, Chenequay would not be drinking.
And this became very, very upsetting to many of the leading Catholic cardinals and
bishops in Chicago, especially Chicago and St. Louis.
So what they did was they bribed one of the priest's sisters to accuse Chenequay
of trying to solicit sex from her.
And Chenequay was put on trial and it appeared as though he was going to be
sentenced to the penitentiary for life.
But some men said to Charles Chenequay, they said, you know, you've got one hope
and one hope alone, and that's from a lawyer in Illinois that can help you.
And Chenequay said, well, who is he?
And they said the man's name is Abe Lincoln.
And so Lincoln came and helped Chenequay and through a miracle of God, a person
came forward and showed that the lady who accused Chenequay was lying and Chenequay
was let go.
And as Lincoln and Chenequay left the courthouse that day, Chenequay started to
weep and Abraham Lincoln looked at him and said, Mr. Chenequay, you should be
thrilled, you're a free man.
Chenequay said, Mr. Lincoln, my tears are not for me, they're for you, because in
this courthouse today I saw 10 to 12 Jesuit priests from Chicago and St. Louis
and I read the sentence of your death in their eyes.
So before Lincoln ever got to the White House, Johnny, he was a marked man.
And finally, right around 1863-1864, people started gathering in a home of a
devout Roman Catholic woman by the name of Mary Surratt, right there in Washington,
D.C.
And that was where his assassination was planned, wasn't it?
That's exactly right, Johnny.
That's exactly right.
And it wasn't just Lincoln, Johnny, who they wanted to kill that night.
They wanted to kill Andrew Johnson, the Vice President.
They wanted to kill William Seward, the Secretary of State.
And they wanted to also kill Ulysses S.
Grant, who was then the Commander-in-Chief of the Northern Forces of the Union Army.
Of course, Lincoln was shot and killed.
Andrew Johnson survived the night.
William Seward was nearly stabbed to death by a man named Louis Payne, who was part
of the conspiracy.
And William Seward survived.
Ulysses S.
Grant had to go out of town to New Jersey on a train, so he was not killed either.
But it wasn't just a desire to kill Lincoln, Johnny.
It was an attempt in one night to completely destroy the governmental
structure of the United States government and to create total chaos in Washington,
D.C.
And that's what the Jesuit Order tried to do.
Well, we're starting to run out of time, and we haven't even scratched the surface
of all the questions I've got for you.
So let me hit just a couple of them, if you don't mind.
Now, have you ever read anything about the Jesuit Order and the formation of the
Islamic religion?
Yes, I have, Johnny.
Or is that going to be too detailed to get into tonight?
Well, Johnny, we could do it real quickly.
You go back, Johnny, to the 4th, 5th, 6th centuries.
The papacy has risen up to power right around 538 A.D.
through the Decree of Justinian.
And a goal, Johnny, a goal that the Catholic Church had for centuries was to
take over Jerusalem.
Because the Pope saw Jerusalem as the 24-carat gold city of the world.
They still have the eye on it, don't they?
Oh, absolutely, Johnny.
They still do today.
And that's one of their goals, is to take it over and to bring the Pope
there to rule the world from Jerusalem.
So they wanted desperately, Johnny, to gain control of Jerusalem.
But there were Christians there, and of course there were very devout Jews
there in Jerusalem.
So they said, now how are we going to get the Jews and the Christians out of
Jerusalem and out of Israel?
So they looked around, Johnny, and they saw all of these Arabs in
northern Africa and in the Middle East, just hordes of Arabs, nomads.
And they said, if we could unite all of these Arabs under one man, we could then
create an army.
We could man their army, we could feed them, we could provide them the weapons
they would need.
And so, Johnny, what they did was they got a very, very wealthy Catholic woman who
had gone into a convent.
Her husband had died, she was left a fortune.
She gave the fortune to the church.
She was a very intelligent woman, and of course very wealthy, but she went
into this convent.
While she was there, they took her out.
Her name was Khadija.
And they said, Khadija, we have a mission for you.
We have a man that we are raising up in the Middle East, and we want you to go and
marry him.
And through your influence, and through the influence of others, we want to use
him to become the unifying factor in unifying all of the Arab peoples together
into one group.
And Johnny, the man who Khadija married was a man by the name of Mohammed.
And Mohammed, in the late 6th and into the 7th century, united all the Arabs
together.
And then, Johnny, through a series of crusades, the Arabs went in and attacked
Jerusalem.
And by about the 9th century, they had driven the Jews and the Christians out of
Jerusalem and had gained control of it.
And at that point, the Pope then turned to the Arab generals and said, now,
give me Jerusalem.
We gave you the weapons, we gave you the manpower, we fed you, we took care of you,
now you give us what we wanted.
Well, Johnny, at that time, the Arab generals had become so powerful,
they looked and they said, look, you want it?
You come and get it.
And Johnny, that's why for the next 600 or 700 years, Catholic mercenaries were going
repeatedly across Europe over to Jerusalem to try to drive the Arabs out of
Jerusalem.
The crusades were fought because the Arabs said no to the Pope.
So that, Johnny, that's how Catholicism created Islam and they were the ones that
started it.
They still have quite a few links today, without going into too much detail.
There's a lot of similarities between the two.
And I know that one of the people who helped Muhammad interpret his visions was
a man named Warakwai, who was a Catholic.
Absolutely.
I don't know if you've ever read that.
Yes, I have, Johnny.
Yes, I have.
And the two are still linked very closely today.
People may think they're at war together, but, I mean, I've done, I've tried to do
my research on this since I read this book, and, man, it's amazing how close
they are together.
They're not the enemies everybody thinks they are.
Not at all, Johnny.
In fact, Johnny, all of the major leaders of Islam today, from the man in Iran to
Saddam Hussein when he was in Iraq, to the Hassads in Syria, Johnny,
all of those top men have been and are 33rd degree Masons.
And as Alberto Rivera said in his studies when he was studying to be a Jesuit
priest, he said that he found that the highest, the man who controlled and was
the leader of the Masonic order throughout the world is the Black Pope.
So, all of these rulers throughout the Middle East, Johnny, are working for the
Jesuit general of the Catholic Church.
Well, now that we've come back to the Jesuit leader, are you familiar with the
Jesuit Oath?
Yes, I am.
Basically, Johnny, what the Jesuit Oath comes down...
We're probably going to go a couple minutes into the archive, so people,
if the show stops, go back and listen to the end of the show in the archives area.
I'm sorry, go ahead, my friend.
Well, the Jesuit Oath, Johnny, basically, the Jesuits are saying,
we will kill, we will maim, we will do...
Well, here, I'll read it to you.
I have it on page 11 and 12 of my book, The Secret Terrorist.
The Jesuit Oath, in part, says this, I do further promise and declare that I
will have no opinion or will of my own or any mental reservation, whatever,
even as a corpse or cadaver, but will unhesitatingly obey each and every command
that I may receive from my superiors in the militia, the militia of the Pope.
I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents,
make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly against all heretics, Protestants
and liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the
face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex, or condition.
I will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these
infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and the wombs of their women and crush their
infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their
execrable race.
That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup,
the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet,
regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or
persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private,
as I at any time may be directed so to do, by any agent of the Pope or superior of
the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus.
And that's the enemy that we face.
Absolutely.
It's a group of people, both men and women, that have taken an oath that they
will kill.
They will do whatever is necessary to see the Protestant Reformation destroyed.
In fact, the very essence of why the Jesuit Order was created was to destroy
the Protestant Reformation.
And if they don't destroy it, then they have no reason to exist.
And based on what I see in my Bible, Johnny, that there will be a group of
people living on this earth at the end of time that will show the world and the
universe the triumph of the Protestant Reformation.
And that group of people we find in Revelation 7 and 14, called the 144,000.
This group of people, Johnny, will face every onslaught of the devil and his
agents, the Jesuits.
Every onslaught they can throw.
And this group of people will stand through the mighty power of Jesus Christ
and will oppose them.
And they will triumph, Johnny, and they will triumph gloriously.
I believe that.
So, the end game of this Jesuit group would be what, if you had to sum it up
really quickly.
And I have questions here from folks who want to know if it... does Barack Obama
play into the Jesuit Order in any way?
Oh, absolutely he does, Johnny.
Absolutely.
Johnny, the ultimate goals of the Jesuit Order, number one, is to destroy
everything that Protestantism stands for.
And what Protestantism stood for was religious freedom, civil freedom,
and economic freedom.
Or, in other words, the right to worship God as we choose, governments of the
people, by the people, and for the people, representative government, and a strong
middle class.
Now, those are the fruits in the religious, civil, and economic fabric of
this country.
Johnny, the Jesuit Order has got to destroy those things, and they are in the
process of destroying those things today.
Now, the other thing, Johnny, is to re-establish the authority of the Catholic
Church and the Pope in this world.
And so, that, Johnny, is their other goal.
They've got to destroy Protestantism, and at the same time, they've got to
re-establish the authority of the Pope and the Catholic Church throughout this
planet.
And based on what Revelation, the book of Revelation says, Johnny, that the beast
will seek to cause all the world to worship the way they tell us to do.
And I believe that's the ultimate goal of the papacy at this time in Earth's
history, is to get all the world back to honoring the Catholic Church.
Well, you've definitely given us a lot to chew on tonight, my friend.
Well, I tell you, Johnny, there's a whole lot more.
There's a whole lot more.
But, you know, glad I could be a part of the program with you, and I just would
invite all the listeners...
How can they get your book?
Well, if they would like, Johnny, I'll give them my address.
My address is P.O.
Box 1417.
That's P.O.
Box 1417.
The town I live in is Eustis.
That's spelled E-U-S-T-I-S.
E-U-S-T-I-S.
The state is Florida, and the zip code is 32727.
Just have them write to me.
If they could throw in, you know, I don't want to get into finances,
but if they could throw in a little bit of money just to help out with expenses for
the books and postage, that would be great.
And I'd be happy to send and write a little note and say, please send me a copy
of both your books, and I'd be happy to send them to them.
Well, it would really behoove anyone who hasn't read these books to read them,
and read them from cover to cover.
I plan on going back and re-reading mine.
I mean, this was really an eye-opener for me, and as a result, you know,
I plan on making some changes with the show.
Nothing too drastic, but take the show in a little different direction.
I'm even looking at a new opening theme song for the show.
But wow, I mean, true eye-opener.
Folks, get this book.
Get these books.
And Bill, sir, I really want to say thank you for you agreeing to be on the show
tonight.
Johnny, it's been my pleasure, and if I can ever be of help again,
or we can work it out, I'd be happy to come on with you again.
Oh, I would love somewhere down the road to have you back on.
Well, let me know, Johnny.
I'd be happy to work with you, and God bless you and your dear wife,
and have a wonderful New Year, and I'll wait to hear from you again.
I will definitely make that happen in the future.
And it looks like we're over time this time.
We're out of time.
So I want everybody to remember that we are starting a new year tonight,
and with that new year, we have new chances to do things better than we did
last year.
You know, I'm sure that I made plenty of mistakes, and I'm sure you did too,
and we can all change.
We have time to change, and we can do better.
We can be better people, and I would encourage you to be better people.
I mean, after what we've heard tonight, you know, I would deeply, deeply encourage
you to be sober and be vigilant, because your adversary the devil has a
roaring lion walketh about, seeing whom he may devour.
I mean, that's just the simple truth of it.
I mean, this stuff is frightening, folks.
But we need to remember that God is still in control.
And folks, just until next time, take care of yourself and each other.
Have a good night, and happy new year.
Carry on my wayward son, there'll be peace when you are done.
Lay your weary head to rest, don't you cry no more.
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Well, good evening everyone, and welcome to another episode of Wayward News
Network.
My name is Johnny Henderson, I'm your host.
As you can see, we're still experimenting, trying to find the right theme music for
this year.
My son has poked around on the internet and found something for this week to see
how people like it.
It's pretty busy for me, but God is good and he won't put more on us than we can
handle.
I apologize for being away for the last couple of weeks.
I had a guest that I thought was really relevant to the show scheduled for
actually the last three weeks, but our schedules never could meet.
And I didn't want to just put in some fluffy filler because I want to actually
be able to bring you something of interest when I do have a show.
And I'm not afraid to touch on the more serious subject.
That's kind of how I got settled with the nickname Wayward Some, because I don't go
along in the same way that everybody does.
I'm gonna just go my own way and do what I think is right.
I want to welcome back to the show tonight a guest we had a few weeks ago,
Mr. Bill Hughes, the author of The Secret Terrorist and The Enemies Unmasked.
The show that we've done last time with Bill was one of the wideliest listened to
shows that we've ever done.
And I just appreciate having him back.
Bill, how are you doing tonight?
Johnny, I'm doing very well, thank you.
Glad to be back here with you tonight.
And I am really glad to have you back.
You know, the show that you've done actually for a while was the highest
listened to show that we've ever done on here, so I think the people really
appreciated it.
But they're still listening to it.
They're going back and downloading it off of iTunes and a few other download sites.
So it is getting out, and I had a lady tell me that she actually is downloading
it, putting it on disks, and sending it around the country.
So you can feel very happy about the job you did last time.
Well, praise God, Johnny.
Of course, it's the truth, and Jesus, of course, in John chapter 8, he said that
you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
And I believe, Johnny, there's a lot of people in America and around the world
today, like what's going on over in Egypt, what's going on here in America.
And Johnny, a lot of people are afraid, and a lot of people need answers and want
answers.
And Jesus promised us that he would teach us what was true.
And in knowing that truth, Johnny, we would be set free.
And that's freedom from fear.
It's freedom from anxiety.
It's freedom from not knowing.
And I'm just thankful, Johnny, that there is light that can shed light on
what is going on today.
And there's light, Johnny, from God's Word that can shed light on what is happening
in the near future.
And I'm just so thankful.
You know, in the Bible, in 2 Peter chapter 1, Peter says, For we have also a more
sure word of prophecy, whereunto ye do well if ye take heed, as unto a light that
shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the day star rises in your
heart.
So, Johnny, God has given us prophecy in his Word to shine as light in a dark
place.
And we know, you and I and everybody that will listen to this broadcast,
we all know that we live in a time of great darkness, a time of great subtlety,
a time of great deception.
And I'm just so thankful tonight for the word of prophecy that shines as a light in
this darkened world and helps us to see what's happening now and what's going to
happen in the near future.
Well, I can certainly agree with that.
I know that you said some very interesting things when you were on the show last
time.
You talked about a certain group of men, and I'm going to have you give a brief
overview again here in a minute.
But you kind of gave a couple of teasers last time, a little bit, when you were
talking.
And I'm going to ask you to get into that again here a little bit.
You mentioned the Pope, and then you mentioned the Mark of the Beast.
So, time permitting tonight, I'd like to get you to expound on that a little bit.
But here at the beginning, is there any way you could kind of give a brief
overview of what we talked about last time?
Johnny, to be blunt and honest with you, I don't remember what we talked about last
time.
Well, we talked about much, it'd be hard to remember it all.
We were talking about the Jesuits.
Okay, okay.
Johnny, in brief, to capsulize nearly 500 years in a couple of moments, as Martin
Luther and the Reformers were spreading the truth throughout Europe, the Catholic
Church was so afraid that in the 1530s, an order was established called the Jesuit
Order.
It was established by Ignatius Loyola, and it was confirmed by Pope Paul III,
I believe, right around 1540, which would have been about 19 years after Luther
nailed the 95 theses.
No, after he stood at the Diet of Worms in 1521.
So about 20 years later, the Jesuit Order was formed, and it had basically two
purposes, Johnny.
One was to re-establish the power and authority of the papacy in this world,
and then, Johnny, to unravel and to destroy everything that Protestantism had
created.
So...
Is that still the plan?
Oh, absolutely it is, Johnny.
And as we look in this century that we're in, the 21st century now, we can see the
power, the authority, the might that the Pope is gaining on every hand,
every hand, at every moment.
So, and we can also see the unraveling and the disintegrating of the Protestant
Reformation.
So, do we see the power and the hand of the Jesuits throughout this world?
Absolutely we do.
And, you know, there was a time when they were suppressed in 1773 and 1774,
right in that time frame, just before the Declaration of Independence in 1776.
But they were then re-established in 1814, and they've been at it ever since.
And the Bible, again, it paints for us, it sheds light that the papacy through the
Jesuit order today, as Revelation 17 verse 2 says, and verse 18, it says that the
kings of the earth have committed fornication with her.
And it says also in Revelation 17, 18, that the whore, the papacy,
i.e., and all her minions, and the Jesuits would be among those minions, that they
reign over the kings of the earth.
So the leaders of this world today, while we see them out in front,
and we think they're the ones that are calling the shots, the Bible paints a
different picture, and it sheds light into the fact that it's organized religion
today, via the papacy and the Jesuit order, that tells the world's leaders what
to do.
It also, in Revelation 18, tells us that the merchants of the earth, the great
wealthy, the business people of our world, from the Rockefellers, to the Rothschilds,
to the Morgans, to Chase, to the Drexels, to Stanford, to Morgan Stanley,
Dean Witter, all of these mighty, powerful merchants in this world are made
rich because they've sold their souls to Babylon the Great, which is the papacy.
Now wait a minute, how do you get Babylon the Great is the papacy?
If you don't mind expounding on that just a bit.
Oh sure, Johnny.
The symbolism, Johnny, we find of Babylon the Great is in Revelation 17 and 18.
And Revelation 17 verse 1 declares that John was told by an angel, I will show you
the judgment of the great whore that sits upon many waters.
And then, Johnny, we find various characteristics of this whore.
She's in unlawful fornication with the leaders of the world.
She's made the earth drunk with the wine of her fornication.
She's very wealthy.
She commits blasphemy.
Revelation 17 3 tells us that.
And Revelation 17 verse 4.
Revelation 17 5 tells us that she has a name, this whore.
And it says, Mystery Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of
the earth.
Well, Johnny, when you analyze the symbol of an impure woman throughout scripture,
and also a pure woman, an impure woman has always throughout the Bible been used as a
symbol to represent the church of God in apostasy.
And a pure woman represents the church of God when it's following in heaven's
commandments.
So we find here in Revelation 17 this apostate church called Babylon the Great
that is in bed with the kings of the world, made wealthy the merchants of the
earth.
Revelation 17 6 says that this whore was drunk with the blood of the saints.
So this church is a persecutor of God's people.
Now, you know, I think the symbol that just tips the balance as to exactly who
this is, is the fact that in Revelation 17 3 the Bible declares that she commits
blasphemy.
And in the Bible, Johnny, it's fascinating because Christ twice was accused of
committing blasphemy.
Once in Mark chapter 2 verses 5 through 7, when he forgave the paralytic of his sins,
he said, son, be of good cheer.
Your sins are forgiven you.
And the scribes and Pharisees were sitting there saying, who does this man think he
is?
Who can commit sin?
Who can forgive sins but God only?
He's committing blasphemy.
Well, in the Bible, if a man claims power to forgive sins, that's blasphemy.
Well, Christ was the son of God, so he could forgive.
But if a man or a system claims that it can forgive sins, that's blasphemy.
The other way the Bible indicates is in John 10 30 to 33, where Jesus Christ
declared that he and his father were one.
And the Jews took up stones to throw at Christ.
And Christ said, why are you stoning me?
And they said, for a good work we stone you not, but for blasphemy, because you
being a man, make yourself God.
Well, Christ was God.
He was God in the flesh, as 1 Timothy 3 16 tells us.
But when a man claims the titles of deity, when a man says that he's the Holy Father,
or he is God in human flesh, or he is the Vicar of Christ, well, that's blasphemy.
Now, you look at that and you say, well, who is this whore that claims to be
God on earth, claims power to forgive sins, persecutes the people of God,
is in bed with the rulers of the world, and is extremely wealthy?
Now, that's just through the first six verses of Revelation 17.
But just from those verses alone, it's obvious that Babylon the Great of
Revelation 17 represents the papacy, the system of Roman Catholicism.
Now, isn't this woman that you're talking about, I don't claim to be a Bible
scholar, but isn't this woman you're talking about, isn't she pictured riding
on a beast?
Yes, she is, Johnny, absolutely.
And I was thinking from what I've read, it sounds very much like Revelation 13.
That's part of the most famous chapter out of Revelation, you know, the one with the
beast and the mark and the image and all that.
Do those two things go together in any way, those two chapters?
No question, Johnny.
In fact, what you have in Revelation 17 and in Revelation 13, one to ten,
is you have the exact same power identified.
Exactly.
The big thing, Johnny, is... and what you have in Revelation 17 is that's a little
bit different than Revelation 13, is in Revelation 17, you've got a woman
riding a beast.
And in that, Johnny, you have both aspects of the papal power.
Because you see, the papacy is not just a church.
The papacy is a political power.
It sends ambassadors in Vatican City.
So it is a political power besides being a church.
And I believe that's what you have in the symbolism of a woman riding a beast.
Whereas in Revelation 13, you don't have it delineated quite as specifically as you
do in Revelation 17.
Nevertheless, the first beast of Revelation 13 and the whore of Revelation
17 is the same power.
It's the papacy, the Roman Catholic Church system.
No question about it.
Well, that would kind of make sense if the beast is a political power.
And last time we had talked about the Jesuits, how they were like the military
arm of the Catholic Church.
So a political power usually does have an army of some sort.
Oh, absolutely, Johnny.
And you know, Napoleon Bonaparte, I believe that's...
I quoted that from my book, The Secret Terrorist, that Napoleon Bonaparte
understood he was trained by the Jesuits on the island of Corsica to fight battles
for the Jesuit order via France to pay back the papacy for suppressing the Jesuit
order right there in 1773.
Because that was a no, no.
When Pope Clement XIV suppressed the Jesuit order, it's a fact of history,
in 1773, Napoleon was trained and he was used by the Jesuit order to pay back the
powers of Europe that had sought to suppress the Jesuit order.
And that's exactly what Napoleon did.
So he knew, Napoleon knew firsthand what the Jesuit order was all about,
that it was a military power and it was the military arm of the Catholic Church.
And so the Jesuit order, if I've got this right, their goal in life is to destroy
Protestantism.
Now that would be like people who aren't Catholic, right?
That's exactly right, Johnny.
And it's not just, Johnny, people that are, you know, liberal in thinking.
It's anybody that's not a Roman Catholic.
Basically, that's what it is.
And, but see, Johnny, in destroying everything that Protestantism had done,
see, the Protestant Reformation brought this world many, many things.
Number one, in the religious realm, it told people that we could approach God
directly through Jesus Christ.
We need no human mediator.
So it made every man and every person, it made us the priesthood of believers,
that we can all approach God through faith in Jesus Christ.
And it provided the fact that we would submit to no other authority than the God
of heaven.
Now that's what the Protestant Reformation gave us in the spiritual realm.
But there was other realms.
In the political realm, the Protestant Reformation gave people the idea that
government should not be controlled and dominated by a few, but government should
be of the people, by the people, and for the people.
So self-government was a fruit of the Protestant Reformation.
That idea began onto the scene of Europe in the 16th and 17th, 18th centuries.
That's what the Protestant Reformation brought us in the political arena.
In the economic arena, through the dark ages, from 500 to 1500, Johnny,
there were two classes of people.
There were the filthy rich and the filthy poor.
We're kind of starting to see it go back to that direction.
Oh Johnny, it absolutely is.
Johnny, after the Protestant Reformation, people began to look and say, you know,
I'm an artisan.
I'm a carpenter.
I'm a printer.
I'm a doctor.
I'm this.
I'm that.
I can use my skills to make my own living.
And so a middle class developed out of the Protestant Reformation.
And you know, Johnny, you're very perceptive point that that's where we're
rapidly heading back to.
And you're exactly right.
And one of the key things, the greatest nation on the face of the earth that has
brought the world the idea of a middle class is the United States.
And Johnny, if you think back just 17 years ago, during the first presidency of
Bill Clinton, who, by the way, was trained at Georgetown University,
trained by Jesuits.
It was his Jesuit mentor, Carol Quigley.
It was only he that Clinton quoted and praised in his first inaugural address in
1992.
So the Jesuit order had a tremendous influence over that man.
Well, you think about what Clinton passed when he passed the North American Free
Trade Agreement called NAFTA in 1993.
Johnny, that destroyed, that destroyed millions and millions of middle class jobs
in this country.
And so the Jesuit order using their Jesuit puppet, Bill Clinton, would seek to
destroy the middle class in the United States.
And we see that going on today in this economic crisis.
The rich are getting richer and richer, and the middle class is rapidly
disappearing.
And that... You know, it's weird that you...
I was just going to say, it's weird that you mentioned Bill Clinton and Carol
Quigley, who was a Jesuit, because years ago I was watching a State of the Union or
a television address by Bill Clinton, and he was talking about sending soldiers
to Bosnia.
And he said something that was just really set strange with me.
Way back then, he said, I was talking to His Holiness the Pope, and he said,
Mr. President, you must not let war continue in Bosnia, so I've decided to
send troops.
And I was always wondering, why would the President of the United States send troops
because a church person told him to do it, to not let war go on?
Yeah, Johnny, that's a fascinating study in a brief nutshell.
See, what the Pope was telling, and this would have been John Paul II,
what he was telling Bill Clinton is to do what you've got to do, bring in NATO,
which is exactly what Clinton did.
He sent in NATO and just basically brought into submission the Serbs in Yugoslavia,
Bosnia, Herzegovina.
Johnny, for centuries, back in 1054, actually, people broke away from the
Catholic Church and they created the Greek Orthodox Church.
And that was primarily made up with people who eventually, in the area of Yugoslavia
and Bosnia, were called Serbs.
And the reason the Serbs were tolerated in that area of the world was because they
were such great fighters.
Well, the people that predominantly lived in that area were called Croats,
or what we know of today as the area called Croatia.
Well, Johnny, those people are devout Catholics.
The only reason the Serbs, again, were tolerated was because they were such
great warriors.
But, Johnny, there has been a systematic attempt in World War I.
If you remember the Archduke of Austria, the man who was going to go to the throne
of Austria-Hungary, his name was Archduke Ferdinand.
He was assassinated.
And it was right after that, and it was blamed on a Serb.
And right after that, Johnny, Austria-Hungary and Germany went to war
and they sought to annihilate the Serbs in Yugoslavia.
And then, of course, during World War II, Catholic action under Ante Pavelic,
who was a Jesuit, basically that's what the guy was.
Johnny, they killed over a million and a half people, Serbs, in Yugoslavia during
World War II.
And so, Johnny, there has been a systematic attempt to exterminate the
Serbs, the Greek Orthodox peoples of Yugoslavia and Bosnia and that area for
this entire century.
And Clinton just finished it up towards the end of the 1990s in cahoots with what
John Paul told him to do.
So, it's just been a bloodbath over in that part of the world.
Incredible.
See, Johnny, here's one other point.
We have been, we were told in the Western world that the butcher, the butcher of the
Balkans was a man named Slobodan Milosevic.
Johnny, Milosevic was not an angel.
And I don't want our listeners to misunderstand.
He was not an angel.
However, he was not the butcher of the Balkans.
The butcher of the Balkans, Johnny, who has been butchering the Serbs in that
area of the world for a long, long time, for centuries, has been the position of
the Pope.
He is the butcher of the Balkans.
How does a man get that much power and hold onto it?
Because it's not been one Pope, from what I'm understanding.
I was given a book called The Bad Popes.
And looking through it, it seems like a lot of these guys were bad.
Johnny, many, many, many of them have been horrible.
They've been despicable.
They've been, you know, committed incest.
They've had illegitimate children.
They've had concubines.
They have robbed people blind.
They have given people false hope.
And then at their deathbed, they realize they're lost.
And it's just horrible, Johnny.
It's a horrible, horrible situation.
But, Johnny, how do they gain their power?
It's very simple.
They use deceit.
They use trickery.
They use murder.
For example, let's just take as far as it happens with kings and rulers.
How is it that the Pope gains control over rulers?
Take a case in point with Queen Elizabeth in England from 1558 to 1603.
When Elizabeth came to the throne, the Pope said, through the English
ambassador, he said, look it, if Elizabeth will submit her throne and England into
the power of the Pope, then everything will go well with her.
But if she doesn't, we will unleash every weapon of hell to drive her from her
throne.
Well, Johnny, history records for us J.E .C.
Shepard wrote a book called The Babington Plot, in which he shows that in a period
of about 20 years, there was about 12 assassination attempts on Queen
Elizabeth's life.
And when the Pope could not assassinate her in 1580, they combined with Philip II
of Spain and determined to build the mightiest navy that the world had ever
seen, and to sail up the western side of Europe, right up to the English Channel,
and completely destroy the little island nation of England.
The name of that fleet of ships was called the Armada.
So, Johnny, when a king or a queen did not go along with Rome's agenda, they were
killed.
You know, attempts were made to kill them, poison them, maim them, slaughter them,
and... Sounds like that Jesuit oath again that we talked about last time.
Absolutely, Johnny.
Absolutely.
Anybody that doesn't go along, anybody that's a liberal or a
non-Catholic, the Jesuit order says, we will cut, kill, jab, flag, we'll do
whatever it takes.
Some of that definition, they would hate you and I, and probably many of our
listeners.
Johnny, they wouldn't think twice about it.
And, you know, for those that wonder, I would encourage them to get the great
DVDs that we've got out there.
One about the life of John Huss.
Another one about the life of John Wycliffe.
Another one that was recently come out, I don't know how long, but it's called The
Radicals.
And it talks about the Anabaptists in the 1520s and 30s and 40s that sought to go
all the way in following biblical truth.
And as a result for that, they were maimed, and they were burned, they were
drowned.
And the story of The Radicals is about an Anabaptist couple by the name of Michael
and Margarita Sattler, who, all they wanted to do was follow the word of God
and share that with other people.
And for that, Michael Sattler was maimed.
He had his tongue pulled out of his mouth.
He was blistered by fire, by coals, and then he was thrown to the flames,
and his wife, three days later, was drowned.
So, Johnny, given time and given the opportunity, without the direct
intervention and protection of God, the papacy will revive those fires of
persecution again.
Well, where does all this lead to?
Does it lead to the Pope being at the head of the world or something?
Or does it lead to the Mark of the Beast?
Where does it end?
What's the end game?
Well, Johnny, the papacy has been driving for a long, long time to regain control of
the world, and they're in that process today.
In fact, Johnny, just as a brief side, what's taking place over in Egypt as you
and I speak with the protests and the demands for Hosni Mubarak to step down
from Egypt's leadership role...
Very sad situation.
Yeah, Johnny, this has a direct involvement in the final events of Earth's
history.
Because, you see, Johnny, the papacy has wanted to control the world from Jerusalem
for 1,500 years.
And so, throughout the time since Israel was re-established as a nation in 1948,
the papacy and the powers of this world have used the country of Egypt once in 56,
once in 1967, and then again in 1973.
And in every one of those cases, the plan was for Egypt to annihilate
Israel.
And, of course, they have not succeeded in doing that, but it's brought tremendous
bloodshed, tremendous death.
And, Johnny, I believe that the powers of this world and the Jesuit order and their
false interpretation of Daniel chapter 9 and the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy of
the 490 years... Johnny, their plan is to create a false Armageddon over in the
Middle East.
And I believe they're going to get Mubarak out to put an extreme Muslim ruler in over
there to then attack Israel, make things very bad.
It will bring the Pope to that part of the world.
And then I believe we're going to see the devil masquerading as Christ.
Johnny, that's all a smokescreen.
That's all a facade.
It's all a deception to get the world's eyes over in that part of the world.
And all of what's gone on in Egypt these last couple of weeks has done just that.
Everybody's eyes are over there now.
Well, Johnny, while that's going on, I believe that the mark of the beast is
going to be pushed sometime not too far distant.
And, Johnny, that is going to be the great focal point of this whole thing.
The devil is trying to get everybody focused on what's going on over there.
But the great final issue that will separate every single person on this
planet will center around the mark of the beast.
Well, let me ask you this because I had a fellow say to me one time, and you can
tell me if he was right or wrong.
He said, if you will keep the Ten Commandments as written by the finger of
God, you will not receive the mark of the beast.
I would absolutely agree with that, Johnny, if we rightly understand all ten
of God's commandments.
And because, you see, Johnny, in the book of Revelation, you find it in Revelation
7, verses 1 through 3, where the seal of God is mentioned.
In Revelation 14, 1 to 5, we are referred to a group of people called the 144,000
that have their father's name written in their foreheads.
And right in that framework, Johnny, in Revelation 13, there is reference made
right around verses 16, 17, and 18.
There is reference made to the mark of the beast.
And then in Revelation 14, in verse 9, there is reference made to the mark of the
beast.
So, Johnny, in Revelation, we are confronted by either receiving the seal of
God, or receiving the mark of the beast.
And both go on the forehead, right?
What's that, Johnny?
And the way that you were reading it, both can go on the forehead, right?
Absolutely.
You see, Johnny, what these two, the seal of God and the mark of the beast,
they represent a person standing before God in a spiritual sense.
We'll get to what the physical outward mark is, but both of those things,
Johnny, whether it be the seal of God or the mark of the beast, they represent a
person's experience with God.
The seal of God, Johnny, represents people in submission to the authority and control
of Jesus Christ and Him alone.
The mark of the beast represents the mindset of humanity that says,
God, I'm going to do things my way.
I am going to live in rebellion against you, and I expect you to save me.
So, Johnny, the fascinating thing about the mark of the beast and the seal of God
is that, and it gets back to what this gentleman told you once before,
if you're keeping all 10 of God's commandments through faith in the power of
Jesus Christ, then you will receive the seal of God.
You see, Johnny, in every legal document, and we experience that all the time.
If you and I, like for example, when I need to go get my passport so I can
go overseas to preach or speak somewhere, well, I have to get certain papers signed,
and I have to get them notarized.
And so the notary seals the document and says it's a legal document.
And contained in every legal document, Johnny, within every seal that makes a
document official and binding, every document has to have that seal.
And the seal, Johnny, contains the person's name, it contains the person's
title, and it contains the person's area of jurisdiction.
Well, Johnny, within the 10 commandment law of God, there is one of God's 10
commandments that contains his seal.
And that commandment, Johnny, it mentions God's name, it mentions his title,
or who he is, and it mentions his area of jurisdiction.
Now, Johnny, if you go through all 10 of God's commandments, there's only one
commandment that contains the seal of God, and that's the fourth commandment.
Because we read in Exodus chapter 20 verses 8 through 11, the Bible says,
remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
Six days shalt thou labor and do all thy work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath
of the Lord thy God.
In it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter,
nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy ox, nor the
stranger that's within thy gates.
And then the Bible says, Johnny, and this contains the seal.
It says, for in six days the Lord, now there's his name, he's the Lord,
the Lord made, there's his title, he's the creator, he made.
Now, his area of jurisdiction, it says the Lord made heaven and earth,
the sea, and all that in them is.
God's area of jurisdiction, Johnny, is the heavens and the earth and the sea
and all that's in them.
That's his area of jurisdiction.
So, Johnny, the seal of God is the seventh day Sabbath, which is Saturday.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean Saturday?
Don't everybody go to church on Sunday?
Most everybody?
Well, Johnny, people have misunderstood and have been deluded for centuries
because from way back, Johnny, in the fourth century, there was a man who
came along and he was a Roman emperor and he saw his empire falling apart and it was
collapsing, it was economically, it was falling, it was immoral,
it was a welfare society, it was a society where women wanted to be equal with men,
it was just a very immoral, immoral empire.
And so, this emperor, Johnny, saw this free fall of this empire, of the Roman
empire, and he said, what am I going to do to bring this empire together?
What am I going to do to make it strong?
And so, in 321, Johnny, this Roman emperor, his name was Constantine,
he set up the first, what he called the venerable day of the sun.
It was the first Sunday law, Johnny, that has ever been passed in the history
of humanity.
And Constantine passed this Sunday law, Johnny, to try to bring his empire
together, to bring unity and strength to his crumbling Roman empire.
And Johnny, over the centuries, the Catholic Church used the decree of
Constantine in the 4th century, and they used it in various church
councils, Nicaea, Laodicea, and others, to push the seventh-day Sabbath down,
and to exalt the first day of the week, or Sunday.
And even, Johnny, as one studies the Reformation, there were men in the 1520s
and 30s, they were Sabbatarian Anabaptists, that were promoting the
seventh-day Sabbath, because they said, that's the biblical day that we should
worship on, the seventh-day Sabbath, or Saturday.
Well, Johnny, the people that established what we know of today as the Sunday
Sabbath, this is how it happened.
In the 16th century, on the one hand, you had the Catholic Church, who had been
advocating Sunday-keeping for centuries.
In the middle of the road, excuse me, on the other side, you had the Sabbatarian
Anabaptists, who were saying, if we're going to only accept the Word of God for
what we're going to believe, then we're going to go to church on the seventh-day
Sabbath.
Well, Johnny, in the middle of those...
But don't the Word of God authorize Sunday?
The Bible does not authorize Sunday in any way, shape, or form, Johnny.
We could go through in another meeting and look at all the first-day texts in
Scripture, none of them...
I would like to do that.
Now, not that I don't believe you, but I would like to check this out myself,
and I'm sure the people listening would like to check this out, too.
And I'd love to have you back on and come back and tell you what I found.
Johnny, I would be very happy to do that.
In fact, we can set up a time, and the next time I come on, we could do
that.
But the Bible, Johnny, in about eight or nine places where it refers to the first
day of the week, in no way, shape, or form, exalts or tells people that the
day for worship has now changed.
What actually happened, Johnny, is that in the 16th century, the Catholics
were saying, we've got to go to church on Sunday.
The Sabbatarian Anabaptists were saying, no, we've got to keep the seventh-day
Sabbath.
Well, what many of the Reformers did, from Ulrich Zwingli, Martin Luther,
John Calvin, and then the Puritans in England, what they came along and said
was, they said, well, we don't want to follow the Papists, because we know that's
wrong, because that's a tradition of Rome.
But we don't want to go with the Anabaptists, because they're saying that
people need to be re-baptized, and we don't want to do that.
So they were in a dilemma.
And so what they created, it was right around 1550, 1560, they created what they
called the Sunday Sabbath.
And Johnny, for the last 450 years, this world has been plagued by people who,
with no basis in the Word of God whatsoever, have declared the Sunday to be
the actual Sabbath.
And, you know, Johnny, they've tried desperately to find reasons for why,
and so they've come up with, well, when John said in Revelation 1.10,
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, you know, they've said, well, see,
the Lord's Day is Sunday.
Well, Johnny, in Mark 2, 27 and 28, Christ made it very clear that He was Lord
of the Sabbath.
So when John was... So does it really make that big of a difference, one day against
another?
Well, Johnny, it comes down to the Sabbath is a sign of reverence and submission to
God's authority.
Sunday, Johnny, is a sign of people saying, God, I'm going to do it my way.
I'm going to choose rebellion against what you have said, and I want you to still
accept me.
So, Johnny, one is a sign, the Sabbath, which is Saturday, it's a sign of loyalty.
Sunday... So it's kind of like Cain and Abel again.
It comes back to Cain and Abel, absolutely.
Because I remember, you know, years ago reading that God had told Abel to bring a
sacrifice, and he brought one of his his sheep or whatever he was looking after in
the field.
And Cain was supposed to bring an offering, and he brought fruits.
Absolutely, Johnny.
This issue, Johnny, over loyalty, over obedience, versus disobedience and
rebellion to God's authority, it's as old as Cain and Abel.
And Cain, he was marked.
Genesis chapter 4 tells us that he was marked, and it was a mark of rebellion
against the authority of God.
Just as the people down at the end of time will be marked with the mark of the beast.
Well, that seems kind of curious, because he got a mark, and then he ended
up persecuting his brother, who had done things the right way.
It almost seems like that would be a parallel from what you read there in
Revelation 13, where it talks about the mark of the beast.
Absolutely, Johnny.
Cain ended up killing, because he couldn't stand what Abel was doing.
It convicted him that what he was doing was wrong, and so Cain ended up killing
his brother Abel.
And Johnny, that scenario in Genesis 4 has been repeated throughout history,
and it is being repeated today, and it will become very flagrant in
America in the very near future, that this issue of Sabbath, the seventh
day Sabbath, which is Saturday, versus the first day of the week,
which is Sunday, which has no scriptural authority.
Johnny, this will become the great issue that will divide all of mankind.
Well, this is true.
This really is the greatest conspiracy of all time, the biggest cover-up.
Oh, absolutely it is, Johnny.
Surely, there's got to be... I mean, half the world obviously couldn't know
this.
Johnny, the great bulk of humanity has no idea, and the devil is desperately...
today, Johnny, and this fits right in with all kinds of current events that we watch.
The devil is desperate today to try to convince the world that the great evil
power in our world today is Islam, because the papacy and apostate
Protestants are in the process of setting up a Sunday law in America, and then it
will simultaneously go around the world.
And he's... How will they get the Muslims to do that?
What's that, Johnny?
How will they get the Muslims to do that?
To embrace Sunday?
Yes, sir.
Okay, very simply, Johnny.
There's something... there's a glue, and we find it... it's mentioned in
Revelation 16.
The glue, Johnny, that will unite all heathen religions of the world,
all sun worshippers in this world, they will all be united through the
apparitions of demon spirits.
And we've been watching those for decades, almost a hundred years, primarily through
the apparitions of Mary.
And, Johnny, this gets into a whole other subject that has to do with what happens
when a person dies.
The Bible is clear that when a person dies, they sleep.
But the heathen religions of the world have adopted the idea that comes straight
from Greek mythology and Greek theosophy that men are immortal.
The Bible does not teach that.
The Bible says that God only has immortality.
That's 1 Timothy 1.17 and 1 Timothy 6.16.
The Bible is clear that when we die, we sleep.
And... Boy, this gets deeper and deeper and deeper as we go.
Oh, indeed it does, Johnny.
Indeed it does.
I can say one thing, you know, you say the Bible says that people sleep
when they die.
A few years back, I had a heart attack, and I died twice.
And I've got to say, you know, there was no tunnel of light with Grandma
and Elvis.
It just got black, and I didn't know anything.
I wouldn't have known if I'd been dead 10,000 years.
But after they resuscitated me, you know, I felt rested.
I felt as though I'd had 10 hours of the best sleep in the world.
Well, Johnny, the Bible, in Ecclesiastes chapter 9, the Bible says, For the living
know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything.
That's in Ecclesiastes 9 verse 5.
Well, I definitely didn't know anything.
Sure.
And, you know, in the New Testament, when one of Jesus' friends named Lazarus
died, he told the disciples, he said, Lazarus is not dead.
He's sleeping.
And the disciples said, Oh, that's great, you know, so we can go see him.
And then Christ looked at him.
He said, Guys, Lazarus is dead, but I'm going to go wake him out of his
sleep.
So Christ referred Johnny to death as a sleep.
And but, Johnny, that that is the glue.
In visiting Middle East countries, Johnny, you find that whether it's
Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or the Muslims, they all agree on one
thing.
And that is that Mary is sacred, that Mary is holy.
And they all believe in the demon apparitions of this being that claims to
be Mary.
When in actuality, she's Jesus' mother.
What doesn't the Bible say that she is in heaven or something?
The Bible does not say that at all, Johnny.
The Bible does not say that at all.
The Bible is utterly silent.
The Bible, of course, tells us that Mary played a key role in being the avenue
through which the Son of God would come into this world.
Mary was a servant of God.
She was a child of God.
And that's why God used her, because she was obedient.
And but as for Mary being in heaven today, the Bible says absolutely nothing to that
effect.
Nothing at all.
So if she's not in heaven, then it would, if she's sleeping in the grave,
then something's impersonating Mary then.
Absolutely.
That kind of makes sense.
You said that would be the glue, because I remember watching the news,
and unfortunately, I watch the news way too much.
When Pope John Paul II died, they said that Muslims in Iraq were flocking to
Catholic Church to pray to Mary for the soul of Pope John Paul II.
So the Muslims actually hold her in a high esteem?
Absolutely.
It's incredible, Johnny, to watch.
You see, Johnny...
It's kind of like a puzzle all fitting together.
See, Johnny, every heathen religion throughout the world, it doesn't matter
which one, whether it's Islam, Confucianism, Hinduism, Buddhism,
Zoroastrianism, every heathen eastern religion, you name it, every western
religion, for that matter, Johnny, there is the exaltation of a female
goddess in every religion.
And so, Johnny, as the apparitions of Mary blanket and pelt this world, Johnny,
within that demon spirit that's manifesting itself as Mary, every single
religious group around this planet identifies with that female deity.
And that's what all heathen religions have in common.
The Queen of Heaven, as the Book of Jeremiah refers to this demon exaltation
of a female goddess.
And that's what all the world has in common, Johnny, all the religions of the
world.
And that is what will be used to bring all of the religions of the world into
rebellion against the authority of the God of Heaven.
And the exaltation of Sunday worship.
Wow, I put on the disclaimer that you'd need thick skin for this one, but my
goodness, this has really been shocking.
Where would a person even look for evidence that this is true or false?
Johnny, there's a host of places.
If somebody would like to write to me, I mean, I've got all kinds of books that
lay it right out from Genesis to Revelation showing this great controversy,
this war that has been going on between the principles of heaven versus the
principles of evil.
And, you know, I'm sure if somebody wanted to write to me, I could give you my
address.
I'd be happy to send people books, DVDs that would help them to understand
these issues very clearly so that people could have hope, Johnny, so that people
could have prophecy as a light that God intended it to be that would shine in the
darkness of this world and give people understanding as to where we're heading
today.
Well, I would love to do it.
We're down to our final 60 seconds.
If you could give us that address and we'll try to work out a date to have you
back on the show because, man, I get the feeling that you've only
scratched the surface here.
Johnny, there's so much.
My address is P.O.
Box 1417.
The town is Eustis, that's E-U-S-T-I-S.
The state is Florida.
The zip code is 32727.
Be happy to send any literature and DVDs that you'd like.
Well, I appreciate you being back on the show and I definitely have to get some of
that information because that is deep stuff.
And, you know, everybody out there listening, if this is true, you owe it to
yourself to actually check it out and see because I don't think any of us want the
mark of the beast.
I don't think any of us want to be deceived in any way.
But, you know, we really need to just to check it out.
I mean, I really don't know what to say.
I'm kind of taken aback by it tonight.
So I guess in closing, I just say to America and the world, whoever's
listening, until next time, take care of yourself and each other.
Thank you again, Bill.
God bless you, Johnny.
Bye-bye.
All right.
Bye-bye.