Here we are with Jesuit Agenda 3.
You know, Bob, this is so much like my celebration videos.
I made that first one, and I thought that that would take care of it.
Never did I dream that there'd be a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
Here we are in Jesuit Agenda 3.
Just thank you so much for the way that the Lord has...
for permitting the Lord to use you the way that He has.
And the amazing thing about this, Bob, is also just like my celebration
videos, is that as we get farther and farther into this, we find more and more
startling and astounding things.
You have just touched on a few things that we're going to be covering with today.
And I am in absolute disbelief.
I can't believe this stuff that's happening.
And I know that our people need to find out, too.
We'll be back with Jesuit Agenda 3 in just a moment.
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Bob, before we begin, let's ask the Lord's Holy Spirit to be with us.
People realize, those that have viewed these tapes, that we need the mercy of the
Lord and angels that excel in strength and guarding us.
We also need wisdom for the things we're going to be dealing with today.
And that God will not only prepare our hearts for this message, but the hearts of
the viewers.
So will you kneel with me and offer a word of prayer that the Lord will do just that?
Gracious Father in heaven, it's wonderful to live at the hour of earth's history
that we are living in.
To see the fulfillment of the prophecies taking place all about us.
It's wonderful to work together in thy cause.
And to remember that the one who died for us, who shed his blood on Calvary's cross,
who paid the redemption price for us, is looking in infinite love upon us,
wanting to guard us, wanting to shield us from the spiritualistic forces that are
taking control of this world.
And Lord, we look to you, we want to look to you as in a glass, clearly,
without any veil between.
We want to see your face and we want to see the course that you have marked out
for us in these closing hours of earth's history.
Help us to be faithful and true, to be fearless in your cause, and give us
wisdom to understand the forces at work to unveil the inroads of spiritualism and the
rapid and stealthy progress of the papal power and the marshalling of the nations
for the closing events of this earth's history.
Help us to ever be on your side of the question, to view things from your
perspective, and to be in a state of absolute surrender to thee, in unbroken
intimacy, unbroken communion, and total dependency upon thee and thy righteousness
and thy power.
Bless John and myself today and each one who views these videos, that the Spirit of
God may take complete possession of our hearts.
In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Thank you, Bob.
Well, have any startling things happened in your life since we made our first video
together, Bob?
Oh, the Lord has really been a blessing, and we've sure enjoyed working with you,
John.
Well, I know that there have been some things happening in your local church
since we made our first video, and I think probably most of our viewers
know that you've been brought under church discipline and given 90 days to recant,
so to speak.
Have you ever been notified officially of this, or have you heard about it through
the Adventist Grapevine?
No.
In fact, while we were away on a seminar, a letter was delivered to our residence in
our absence, not giving us the date when a meeting would be held, just notifying us
that there would be a church business meeting and leveling of six charges
against us.
And after we got back from our trip, the next morning I was aware of that
letter, and we found out that the meeting was held that evening, and they voted to
put us under three months of censure.
And we found out about it because one of the individuals that voted in our favor at
the meeting told us about it.
And they still haven't notified us.
It's been a couple months now.
And yet they have notified all the churches in the conference.
They've sent letters out to all the conference presidents.
It sounds so familiar to me.
That's exactly how they handled the disfellowshipping of me and my family.
Well, if God before us, who can be against us?
We aren't going to let that slow us down.
Bob, tell us what you have found.
I don't know how you can start with the wealth of information you have to give us
today, but start right in and let us know where we are on the Jesuit agenda going on
in the Seventh-day Adventist denomination.
John, I'd like to just start off with a few thoughts about the gospel.
Looking at Hebrews chapter 2, verse 9, we read, But we see Jesus, who was made a
little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and
honor, that He, by the grace of God, should taste death for every man.
And our Savior has paid the redemption price for us at infinite cost,
the cost of His infinite blood.
He has died the death that was ours, which was dying for eternity.
He has tasted of that death.
He has entered the portals of the tomb without the hope of coming back again,
but with the faith that conquered on Calvary's cross.
And so we owe everything to Him.
And that is what spiritualism does not understand.
Spiritualism does not teach the fall of man and therefore sees no need of a
Savior.
And the materials we're going to be looking at today have as their basis
spiritualism.
I'd like to read a passage here from Great Controversy.
Spiritualism teaches many wonderful thoughts and wonderful concepts about love
and unity and harmony and harmony with nature and all of this type of thing,
but it doesn't have the power to produce righteousness and true love and true
righteousness.
And Ellen White told us that the Omega Apostasy would, among other things,
involve the teaching that virtue is better than vice, but having separated itself
from God, really, through failure to understand righteousness by faith,
it would be powerless to accomplish that virtue.
And we're going to be looking at movements that profess virtue, but that in reality
have proven historically that they have been monsters of destruction.
And we must remember that in the Hindu religion, they even had a god called
Shiva.
The destroyer and destruction in the Hindu religion is not looked upon as necessarily
bad.
It's looked upon as a purifying element.
And that's, of course, what Heinrich Himmler was involved in with the Nazi SS.
The destruction and annihilation of whole races was merely a purifying element for
the good of humanity, you see.
And we are going to see... we are seeing the same philosophies developing,
because New Age is virtually identical to National Socialism, but there is... and
National Socialism, of course, is Nazism, but undergirding it all are
philosophies that we want to look at today.
And we want to look at the all-pervasiveness of this thing and first
of all, we want to look at some of the things that are hitting us right now,
that are alerting us.
Then we want to do a historical sweep and see historically what this philosophy is
at its roots and how it has worked itself historically and how it is encompassing
the world now and then how the faithful have combated this in the situation they
found themselves in.
You have our undivided attention.
Proceed.
Here in Great Controversy 588-589, the Protestants of the United States will
be foremost in stretching their hands across the Gulf to grasp the hand of
Spiritualism.
Has that happened, John?
Absolutely.
Why, it is all through the Protestant churches, isn't it?
And I can't help but think of this Spiritualism that you are referring to.
Immediately what came to my mind was the situation, I believe it's in early
writings, where she talks about Jesus going into the Most Holy Place and the
true and faithful following Him into the Most Holy Place.
But there was another group that did not follow Jesus, remained in the Holy Place,
and Satan came in to take the Savior's place and gave them great power and light.
And that's exactly what these people that are involved in Spiritualism, not only in
Protestantism, but now we find it in the Seventh-day Adventist Church, they are
claiming that they have great power, great light, and look at all the wonderful
things that are taking place in their encampment.
But we see that it's just this group that are receiving their power and light from
Satan.
The true and faithful have gone to the Most Holy Place with Christ.
That's right.
So they will be foremost, the Protestants of the United States will be foremost in
stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism.
The visualization, the New Age teachings, the New Age concepts of love and unity
that have come in, the New Age agenda called for working through the churches,
working through the Masonic lodges and working through education to draw the
whole world together in the occult to prepare it for the coming of the Omega
Christ.
This is the power and light that comes from Satan.
That's right.
They will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power and under the
influence of this three-fold union, this country will follow in the steps of
Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.
Now I'd like to look at some of the developments that are taking place right
now John, and perhaps before we do that, a couple more statements here.
In Ellen White's day when she was writing this, the Temperance Movement was using a
good cause and moral reform and combining it with the Sunday Law Movement.
And Ellen White had some counsel.
She said, The fact that a movement to establish error is connected with a work
which is in itself good is not an argument in favor of the error.
We may disguise poison by mingling it with wholesome food, but we do not change its
nature.
On the contrary, it is rendered more dangerous as it is more likely to be taken
unawares.
It is one of Satan's devices to combine with falsehood just enough truth to give
it plausibility.
And we're seeing that with the things that are coming in.
Ellen White is used to introduce things, you see.
To use Adventist jargon and to catch Adventist unawares, and they mix in some
spirit of prophecy quotes to bring the guard down.
And what is the nature of this spiritualism?
As spiritualism more closely imitates the nominal Christianity of the day,
it has greater power to deceive and ensnare.
Satan himself is converted after the modern order of things.
He will appear in the character of an angel of light.
And Alice Bailey, who had the intermediate phase of teaching, she's a high priestess
of the New Age movement, tells us in her book, The Externalization of the
Hierarchy, that when the conditioning process of New Age reaches the point where
sufficient unity and love has been achieved, through the churches,
through the Masonic lodges, and through education, then the externalization of the
hierarchy will take place, and the occult leaders will reveal themselves,
and the Christ himself will appear surrounded by angels.
Has Christ, the Christian church, ever had anything to do with a hierarchy?
Is a hierarchical system ever congruent with true Christianity?
Well, John, I have just gone through a couple of times my CD-ROM, and looked up
every time where Ellen White uses the word hierarchy, and every time it's used in a
pejorative sense as the epitome of evil, which is always opposed to the gospel.
And I have a book here, John, that sheds light on this.
So you're saying that a hierarchy has never, ever been used of God, and that any
time we have a hierarchical system that is always referred to by God's prophet,
God's messenger, as being evil and satanic?
Every time she refers to it in her writings, it is the epitome of evil that
opposes the gospel.
Now, what is the order in the gospel?
All ye are brethren, and one is your master, even Christ.
Well, that's so startling, because anybody that knows anything about church
organization within Seventh-day Adventist church knows that it is very obvious,
and even touted by the general conference presidents, that we have a hierarchical
system of government in the Seventh-day Adventist denominational structure.
It's even been sworn to in courts of law.
But our organization, when it was first established, was to be representative.
In other words, the power flows from the bottom up.
But a hierarchy flows from the top down.
The pyramid, that's right.
Here is what Daubenier wrote in his history of the Reformation.
Christianity has two great adversaries, hierarchism and rationalism.
And another place here, in 521...
In fact, there is only another religious organization that has the hierarchical
system that the Seventh-day Adventist church has, and that's the Roman Catholic
Church.
It was argued in the Proctor case, as I recall, that we, next to the Roman
Catholic Church, have the most centralized system.
Protestantism threw off man's authority solely to place Jesus Christ on the throne
of the Church and his word in the pulpit.
John, reading on here in Great Controversy...
He, that is, Satan, will appear in the character of an angel of light.
Through the agency of spiritualism, miracles will be wrought, the sick will be
healed, and many undeniable wonders will be performed.
And as the spirits will profess faith in the Bible and manifest respect for the
institutions of the Church, their work will be accepted as a manifestation of
divine power.
Bob, pardon me, don't forget that with the people listening by audio tape,
we can put the reference up on the video, but the people listening by audio tape,
if you can give the reference of every book that you read...
588, 589, in Great Controversy.
Did you give the reference from the book on D.
R.
B.
E.'s History of the Reformation?
First quote was 171, and the second was 521.
All right.
Now, what is going to happen as spiritualism pulls the strings of this
whole thing together at the end of time?
Those who honor the Bible Sabbath will be denounced as enemies of law and order,
as breaking down the moral restraints of society, causing anarchy and corruption,
and calling down the judgments of God upon the earth.
Their conscientious scruples will be pronounced obstinacy.
Now, in the New Age teaching, as enunciated by Alice Bailey, the high
priestess, she discusses the issue of the power of death being used to hasten the
coming one.
The power of death?
Yes.
By that she means that all ideas that don't fit into the community, that are
individual interpretations or worldviews that don't submit to the community at
large, must be put under the power of death to hasten the coming one.
Revelation 13, 15, 17.
Exactly.
Their conscientious scruples will be pronounced obstinacy, stubbornness,
and contempt of authority.
They will be accused of disaffection toward the government.
Now, this has happened in the Soviet Union for decades against the faithful
Adventists who were standing up.
We want to look at that later.
Ministers who deny the obligation of the divine law will present from the pulpit
the duty of yielding obedience to the civil authorities as ordained of God.
In legislative halls and courts of justice, commandment keepers will be
misrepresented and condemned.
A false coloring will be given to their words.
The worst construction will be put upon their motives.
Now, having read that, John...
Don't you love the spirit of apostasy?
Don't you love the great controversy?
Yes, it really tells us what is coming.
Such a source of strength.
What would we do without it?
Here is a quote from the Adventist Apocalypse.
Now, what's that?
Now, that's a compilation of 719 pages of material from Ellen White's letters
regarding end-time events.
It's never been published.
Where did you get it?
Well, sometimes you have friends that pass things along to you.
Is this confidential?
You got your hands on this?
No, it is available, actually, from the Rosenvolts.
I see.
And they have been copying this off.
They had access to it.
And when they gave me my copy, they said there's only five or six copies
of this in existence.
So I read through the whole 719 pages.
It was absolutely...
What did you find?
Well, here is just a quote regarding the experimentation of Satan on the properties
of the human mind.
And we're going to be looking at this, John, a lot today.
Satan often finds a powerful agency for evil in the power which one mind is
capable of exerting on another human mind.
This influence is so seductive that the person who is being molded by it is often
unconscious of its power.
God has bidden me speak warning against this evil, that his servants may not come
under the deceptive power of Satan.
The enemy is a master worker, and if God's people are not constantly led by the
Spirit of God, they will be ensnared and taken.
For thousands of years, Satan has been experimenting upon the properties of the
human mind.
Now, that's a very interesting phrase, because we're going to later be looking at
Roman Catholic natural law, which forms a common denominator among many,
many movements that are pulling things together.
Experimenting with the human mind, NLP.
I mean, it is so obvious.
And he has learned to know it well by his subtle workings in the last days.
He is linking the human mind with his own, imbuing it with his thoughts, and he is
doing this work in so deceptive a manner, that those who accept his guidance,
know not that they are being led by him at his will.
The great deceiver hopes to confuse minds of men and women, that none but his voice
will be heard.
Yes, that's exactly what's happening, Bob.
It's so obvious.
Anybody with spiritual discernment, and what did Christ pray for the church in
Laodicea, that they would have spiritual eyesalves, and I am praying for you,
as you are for our people, that they will have spiritual eyesalves, and see the
things that are taking place, because our Adventist people are being duped by the
millions.
They don't realize what's taking place.
And if we can get them to see any of these videos, they are in absolute shock.
They can't believe the stuff that's happening.
But the problem is that many of them will not even watch these videos.
John, in John chapter 10, the words of Jesus address this very clearly.
He said, my sheep hear my voice.
And we have to hear that voice first.
And later on, Jesus said to some of the people around him, ye believe not,
because ye are not of my sheep.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give unto them
eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my
hand.
Now, let's look, John, at some of the developments that have been happening that
are just like bits of information that come across our consciousness,
but in reality are part of a much larger strategic battle plan of the devil to pull
things together for these final events.
So many people have told us that.
They said, you know, we saw all these little things happening hither and yon,
but we couldn't put it all together.
And suddenly we saw these videos, and we said, yes, it all fits together.
Now we see why all this stuff is happening.
That's why Alvin Toffler said in his book Power Shift, we see these bits and pieces
of things coming by, but until we look at it strategically, we don't understand the
significance of it.
Here I have an analysis.
You know, it is amazing to me, John, the number of men who are
non-Adventists, who are putting themselves on the line, even putting their personal
life at risk to expose the papacy, to expose spiritualism.
Recently, the Argentine government released a large sheaf of top-secret
documents to the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles regarding the connection
between the Vatican and Nazism.
And I'm going to be very interested to get any kind of synopsis.
They are not making available the full release, but they may produce a synopsis.
But that is just one incident.
There are others that are busy researching the inroads of spiritualism, and these
things are becoming more and more available to us.
And I want to just look at this phenomenon of visualization that is coming into our
church.
It is spreading, spreading rapidly.
Our ministers are being exposed to it in their training, and we are getting one
report after another.
Bob, people say, oh, this is one little isolated incident.
That thing that you showed in your video of Bill Loveless, you know, that was just
one isolated incident.
That is about as much as one isolated incident, as celebration was one isolated
incident.
This is what they always say at the beginning when we expose it.
Oh, it's just one isolated incident.
And then our people see that it's not, that it's going like wildfire through our
denomination.
See, even the word celebration, John, this is so interesting.
Because we just read this quotation about the linkage between Protestantism,
spiritualism, and Roman Catholicism.
Celebration is in all three.
It is a code term for bringing all three.
Have you seen, John, driving into Orlando here, the big billboard that says the
celebration and you?
These billboards are all over Orlando.
This is a big advertising campaign that they have.
And it's involving, it's even in the newspaper, in the Orlando Sentinel,
it's talking about being the first one of these thousand points of light of George
Bush's.
Oh, yes, and Bush belongs to the Skull and Bones Society.
Do you know that the Nazis had a skull and bones, the SS had skull and bones as their
insignia, that they belong to the Nazi SS?
Well, since you've been in Orlando here and seen these billboards, what does this
have to do with what we're talking about today, Bob?
Well, this is all New Age.
See, they want to make Orlando the pilot city to pave the way as a city of light to
demonstrate to the nation the type of agenda that they want to accomplish
through New Age.
Now, they don't always use the word New Age.
For instance...
Why did it have to be Orlando?
Why do they have to start here?
Well, you already have, with Disney World, you already have a heavy infusion here of
New Age concepts.
For instance, you have the EPCOT Center.
What does the acronym EPCOT stand for?
E-P-C-O-T... Environmental Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
Okay, there you have it.
And here I have a brochure for the Natural Law Party in England.
One of the goals...
and let me just show you a familiar face in this.
See if you recognize the face of your friend here, John.
Oh, that's Maharishi Mahayoga.
There he is.
Yeah.
And he's got the Constitution of the Universe all worked out here with all
kinds of numbers.
What does he have to do with Catholic natural law?
Well, we want to be exploring that.
It's going to take us some time, John.
But just as an introduction here, we're looking at things that are impacting
us on these bits and pieces, and then we want to look at the whole strategic view.
You just started on EPCOT.
Now, I've been to EPCOT.
Now, was that New Age?
Remember what the acronym stands for.
Okay, environmentally...
Environmental prototype...
Now, wait a second.
Now, let's get it straight.
What does EPCOT stand for?
Environmentally...
Experimental...
Prototype...
Prototype Community of Tomorrow.
Okay.
Now, what does that...
We already know about Disney World.
I mean, you know, Mickey Mouse has been a wizard from the very beginning.
Magic and all that.
Sure.
The Natural Law Party will establish a new department to beautify the United Kingdom.
It will promote large development projects to construct ideal homes, villages,
and towns in the vicinity of cities in order to provide a natural, healthy,
uncongested, and pollution-free living environment for everyone.
Now, this issue of natural law is so big, we have to look at it systematically,
historically, how it has developed, how Roman Catholicism has used it,
and all the movements that it has engendered.
But we are just looking now at bits and pieces of what is floating past us,
that we see, the billboard, Celebration NU, EPCOT, Natural Law Party in England,
Maharishi Yogi, and the plan to have these type of prototype communities all over
England, established by the Natural Law Party.
Here I have John Paul II's encyclical letter, December 30, 1987, on social
concern.
I want to just look at a few quotes out of here, and then let's look at what the
Earth Summit is saying.
The obligation to commit oneself to the development of peoples is not just an
individual duty, and still less an individualistic one, as if it were
possible to achieve this development through the isolated efforts of each
individual.
It is an imperative which obliges each and every man and woman, as well as societies
and nations.
In particular, it obliges the Catholic Church and the other churches and
ecclesial communities with which we are completely willing to collaborate in this
field.
In this sense, just as we Catholics invite our Christian brethren to share in our
initiatives, so, too, we declare that we are ready to collaborate in theirs,
and we welcome the invitations presented to us.
In this pursuit of integral human development, we can also do much with the
members of other religions, as, in fact, is being done in various places.
Collaboration in the development of the whole person and of every human being is,
in fact, a duty towards all, and must be shared by the four parts of the world,
East and West, North and South, or, as we say today, by the different
worlds.
Now, that's 59 and 60.
Peoples or nations, too, have a right to their own full development.
Now, I'm going to read a few more here, John.
And we have to remember what we're looking at here because it all has enormous
significance when we understand what Roman Catholic natural law is.
Nor can the moral character of development exclude respect for the beings which
constitute the natural world.
Notice the emphasis on the environment, which the ancient Greeks, alluding
precisely to the order which distinguishes it, called the cosmos.
See, the ancient Greeks had the concept that the highest goal of man was to fit
into the order of the environment, the order of nature.
And this is foundational to Roman Catholic natural law.
You're telling me that all of this environmental thing, like Greenpeace and
all of these things going on in the world about the environment, that this is just
part of the Jesuit agenda, Bob?
Well, I'm saying, John, that fundamental to Roman Catholic natural law,
and we'll be looking at it shortly when we do a systematic analysis of it,
fundamental to it is the concept of the order of nature which came from the
Stoics, the ancient Greeks, who believed that the high duty of man was to conform
to nature as it is, to fit into the environment.
And so all of a sudden now we have children writing to President Bush all
kinds of environmental things, people wearing environmental T-shirts,
Greenpeace, the Green Party in Germany.
And remember that John Paul II sees Germany as his springboard for the New
World Order.
A united Germany controlling Europe is the first circle of power.
That's the lever of power for the New World Order.
And then the second orbit is North America.
And then the third orbit is the Asian region.
But notice what is happening in Germany so carefully.
There's a danger we're going to be straying here, and we'll want to come back
to that a little later.
But enormous developments are happening in Germany.
There is great concern in the world community that Germany is putting the Nazi
past behind them.
They're not even thinking about it.
And Germany feels so strong now that they don't even have to listen to the world
community about these things.
Such realities also demand respect by virtue of a threefold consideration,
which it is useful to reflect upon carefully.
The first consideration is the appropriateness of acquiring a growing
awareness of the fact that one cannot use with impunity the different categories of
beings, whether living or inanimate, animals, plants, the natural elements,
simply as one wishes according to one's own economic needs.
Now, what is that?
That's this whole environmental concern, John.
Isn't that what we hear from the environmentalists all the time?
On the contrary, one must take into account the nature of each being and of
its mutual connection in an ordered system, that's the order of nature concept
of Roman Catholic natural law, which is precisely the cosmos.
The second consideration is based on the realization, which is perhaps more urgent,
that natural resources are limited.
Some are not, as it is said, renewable.
Using them as if they were inexhaustible with absolute dominion seriously endangers
their availability, not only for the present generation, but above all for
generations to come.
All this environmental movement is exactly in harmony with this encyclical.
This is page 64 and 65.
Bob, I just want to say that these dear people, you folks are going to have to get
a copy, your own copy of one of these videos and watch it four and five times,
even more.
People say that they get the... you know, Bob, the Lord has given you such an
intellect and you have absorbed so much of this stuff and you are spewing out so much
of this data that there is no... my problem I have is in absorbing this
material at the speed in which you give it.
And these dear folks, I know, must suffer the same problem.
And I have had so many people say, you know, the second, third, fourth...
every time I watch that video, I hear stuff I never heard before and it
all comes together.
So, you know, I realize that you have such a wealth of material to give us,
but I am talking to our viewers.
You are going to have to get one of these videos and watch it over and over again.
And I promise you, every time you watch it, you will see more and more things that
Bob is relating to us.
But just try to absorb what you can the first time through, as I am trying to do
here.
In fact, they are planning on having an environmental Sabbath, which is a very
interesting thing.
Who is they?
The environmentalists and the Earth Summit, as I understand.
Which you say...
The international community.
Which you say has a foundation structure in the Catholic Church?
Well, in Roman Catholic natural law, the order of nature strains.
See, there are two strains, and we will get into that shortly in Roman Catholic
natural law, but the order of nature strain calls for conformity to nature.
The thing I am finding out is that the Roman Catholic Church has such influence
around the world, and has their finger in most every organization that rules the
world, that they can make things happen without anybody knowing the source of it.
That they have such an unbelievable satellite network of pulling the strings
of everything that happens in the world.
And they use the principle of dissociation, so people don't see the
connections, and then suddenly all of these agencies pull together at the same
time.
And here, the third consideration, page 65 in the encyclical, refers directly
to the consequences of a certain type of development on the quality of life in the
industrialized zones.
We all know that the direct or indirect result of industrialization is,
ever more frequently, the pollution of the environment, with serious consequences for
the health of the population.
Now, these are, as we said earlier, good concerns, like the temperance
movement.
But, what is the strategic issue behind it all, you see?
It is a platform on which all the world can unite to form a one world government.
Bob, it's going to be a good concern when the sunny laws are passed, when people
receive the mark of the beast.
We've got to do this to save our country.
We've got to do this to save the world.
Of course, it's going to be a, quote, good concern.
And you see, John, what happens is, it brings the order of this world in
direct conflict with the order of heaven.
The order of heaven, and God's law, and God's word.
And we, as a people, have to be deciding and purposing, like Daniel, in our heart,
that we will be settled into God's word.
So we will not be moved, and we will submit and surrender, in absolute
surrender, to the Lord.
Once again, it is evident that development, the planning which governs
it, and the way in which resources are used, must include respect for moral
demands.
One of the latter undoubtedly imposes limits on the use of the natural world.
And so, let me read a few more passages in here.
In connection with this Earth Summit, I'd like to read some statements here.
Before this World Summit was ever put underway, Pope John Paul II had been
organizing this years ago.
Well, this was 1987, when the encyclical came out.
Here, from Maurice F.
Strong, a direct quote, he is Secretary General of the United Nations Conference
on Environment and Development.
The Earth Summit must establish a whole new basis for relations between rich and
poor, North and South.
Notice, almost identical language, including a concerted attack on poverty.
And that's a big issue in this encyclical, too.
The preferential option for the poor, and the Jesuits have been talking about
that for decades, as a central priority for the 21st century.
This is now as imperative in terms of our environmental security as it is on moral
and humanitarian grounds.
We owe at least this much to future generations, from whom we have borrowed a
fragile planet called Earth.
Now, John, I want to just get a book over here.
It's so obvious, Bob, that the underpinning of this entire environmental
movement has been the Roman Catholic Church.
That is so unbelievable!
Who would have ever suspected that the Roman Catholic Church was underlying all
of this?
You see the environmental issue everywhere.
I was amazed, John, as I was reading the dictionary of the ecumenical movement,
just perusing it and looking at the section on the United Nations,
the enormous influence that the World Council of Churches exerts in the United
Nations.
And in our prior videos, we looked at the enormous collaboration between Rome and
the World Council of Churches.
Now, I'd like to just read a pledge that is to be circulated in many languages.
The Earth Covenant.
What is the Earth Covenant?
The Earth Covenant is a major public initiative relating to the Earth Summit.
It consists of a one-sentence pledge.
The United Nations expects hundreds of millions of people in every part of the
world will sign or offer their thumbprint to the Covenant.
The pledge to be circulated in many languages reads as follows, Recognizing
that people's actions toward nature and each other are the source of growing
damage to the environment and resources needed to meet human needs and ensure
survival and development, I pledge to act to the best of my ability to help make the
Earth a secure and hospitable home for present and future generations.
So, they're interested in having hundreds of millions of people signing this pledge.
I have some material here, John, about your Orlando area.
That's the logo right there that we see all over Orlando.
Right, the and sign, and you.
Yes.
Right.
Celebration and you.
Ampersand you.
Yes, ampersand you.
America's first city of light.
On Saturday, this is a response from the Orlando mayor to the president.
The president said, on Monday, the points of light will come to Orlando,
Florida.
Barbara and I will take part in a national tribute in their honor.
And he talks about, imagine if all points of light lived in one place.
And he talks about the community, a community of light.
See, Satan comes as an angel of light.
His whole agenda, he presents as light.
But it disregards the thing that we spoke about, first of all, about the fall of man
and the necessity of salvation.
And in this community of light, each school, business, place of worship,
and group would lead its members toward the light of service as equal partners in
solving social problems at their root.
In a community of light, people would use their ingenuity, experience, and passion
to find solutions that work for their neighborhoods, their communities.
They would adopt other people's successful programs and efforts to meet their needs.
Or, if necessary, they would craft their own.
In a community of light, everyone will be sought after for their own gifts.
It's not difficult to see how this could tie in with the New Age.
It is New Age.
The points of light is New Age.
That's not difficult to see.
That's not hard to see.
The thing that is so unbelievable is that it's tied into Roman Catholicism.
That's the thing that's so startling.
It's easy to see New Age in this.
Yes.
Here, the celebration.
A gathering of community spirit.
Now, John, I'm going to get back here in just a second to the encyclical,
but I just have so many things that I don't want to leave out here.
Don't leave it out.
We'll keep the camera rolling.
Don't worry about that, Bob.
You know that.
In this book here by Leonard Peikoff, The Ominous Parallels, Leonard Peikoff
analyzes what happened in Nazi Germany.
Let me read a quote here, John.
Quote, It is thus necessary that the individual should finally come to realize
that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his
nation.
Now, remember that this is what Caiaphas said about Jesus.
It is better that one man should perish and that the nation perish not.
That's right.
That's what he said.
This is the whole philosophy behind this issue of the power of death as it relates
to the community and love in the New Age.
You see, those who hold to their own ideas stubbornly, their ideas must be put under
the power of death.
They must be exterminated.
Yes.
That the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the
nation as a whole.
So here you have this community concept.
It's called collectivism.
That above all, the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than
the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual.
Now, let me ask you, John, when our nation was established, was it established by
strong individuals?
Absolutely.
And they wanted a nation where the individual could be free?
Absolutely.
He could have his freedom in his home.
He could have freedom to worship God as he chose.
The Bill of Rights is there to guarantee freedom.
Give me liberty or give me death.
But what we are hearing now more and more and more is we have to fit into the
community.
That's what we're hearing in the church, Bob.
That is exactly what we're hearing in the church.
See, it all is spilling over in a wash.
Because everyone who is not being transformed by the renewing of their mind
in Christ Jesus is being conformed to the world about them.
We've all got to fit together, fit together, fit together, work together.
It sounds wonderful.
Oh, it sounds wonderful.
And you see, self-sacrifice is being used to describe this.
Hitler was big on self-sacrifice.
And we have to understand what we are to sacrifice self to, to Christ or to the
community that is alienated from Christ, but that speaks fine words like a lamb,
but is actually like a dragon.
This state of mind which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation
of the community is really the first premise for every truly human culture.
The basic attitude from which such activity arises, we call to distinguish it
from egoism and selfishness, idealism.
By this we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices
for the community, for his fellow men.
Now, I read this at a camp meeting and I asked the people, who do you think said
that?
I didn't tell them who it was.
Some thought George Bush and others thought other great men.
And when I told them it was Adolf Hitler, they were shocked.
These statements were made by Adolf Hitler, page 13 still.
He was explaining the moral philosophy of Nazism.
These statements were made in our century by the leader of a major western nation.
His countrymen regarded his viewpoint as uncontroversial.
His political program implemented it faithfully.
And here is the ultimate practice as described by William Shearer in The Rise
and Fall of the Third Reich.
The gas chambers themselves at Auschwitz in the adjoining crematoria viewed from a
short distance were not sinister looking places at all.
It was impossible to make them out for what they were.
Over them were well kept lawns with flower borders.
The signs at the entrances merely said baths.
You know, I've been in Dachau and I've been inside those gas chambers there.
Yet that's what the general conference president accused the independent
ministries of being guilty of.
The same crimes that went on at Auschwitz and Dachau.
Yes.
The unsuspecting Jews thought that they were simply being taken to the baths for
the delousing, which was customary at all camps, and taken to the accompaniment of
sweet music, for there was light music.
An orchestra of young and pretty girls, all dressed in white blouses and navy blue
skirts, as one survivor remembered, had been formed from among the inmates.
While the selection was being made for the gas chambers, this unique musical ensemble
played gay tunes from the Merry Widow and Tales of Hoffman, nothing solemn and
somber from Beethoven.
The death marches at Auschwitz were sprightly and merry tunes straight out of
Viennese and Parisian operetta.
Can you imagine that?
To such music, recalling as it did happier and more frivolous times, the men,
women, and children were led into the bath houses, where they were told to undress
preparatory to taking a shower.
Sometimes they were even given towels.
Once they were inside the shower room, and perhaps this was the first moment that
they may have suspected something was amiss, for as many as 2,000 of them were
packed into the chamber like sardines, making it difficult to take a bath.
The massive door was slid shut, locked, and hermetically sealed.
Up above, where the well-groomed lawn and flower beds almost concealed the
mushroom-shaped lids of vents that ran up from the hall of death, orderly stood
ready to drop into them the amethyst blue crystals of hydrogen cyanide.
I won't read the rest of it.
It is too horrendous to read, John.
But the voters, when they voted in the Nazi ideology, they were aware of this
Nazi ideology.
Mein Kampf had been published by Hitler, and it sold more than 200,000 copies
between 1925 and 1932.
But the issue we're looking at here is the issue of collectivism.
It's the theory that the group, the collective, has primacy over the
individual.
We're struggling with that in our own church.
Does the hierarchy have primacy over the individual?
Does the group have primacy over the individual?
And now we are looking on a worldwide scene, a conditioning process,
calling for people to submit, to surrender, and every person is to be
canvassed to try to draw them into these communities of light.
You see, Hitler said in Mein Kampf that we have to be bearing children that have the
image of the Lord.
Sounds beautiful, but that is the concept of the order of nature, of coming in
harmony with the order of nature, submitting in conformity to the order of
nature, and in order to preserve the purity of Aryan blood so that it reached
its highest potential, which is fundamental to the order of reason strain
of natural law, the subhuman races have to be purged.
Purged!
That's a nice word.
Yes, just like Shiva in Hinduism that Himmler would read the Vedas and all of
this.
We have to purge away, like you cut off a bad branch on a tree, for the good of
humanity, you see.
That was the idea, that was the philosophy.
That's the dangerous philosophy.
Collectivism holds that in human affairs, the collective, society, the community,
the nation, the proletariat, the race, etc., is the unit of reality and the
standard of value.
So you see, when the community becomes the standard of value instead of the word of
God being the standard of value, we have the gas chambers that come in.
Because those who don't submit to the community are like a bad branch that will
disease the whole community and they have to be cut away.
That's what they're saying about the, quote, dissidents in the Seventh-day
Adventist church, that they are going to ruin the whole church and they've got to
be cut away.
We've got to get rid of these people because they're ruining our church.
And if we can just get rid of these people that are supporting these dissident,
independent ministries and these troublemakers in our church, then we can
have unity once again in our church.
You see, this concept is not just global.
It's down to the very grassroots of our individual churches.
This concept has permeated our denomination, our nation, and our world.
In fact, John, the Troy church that took your name in, at a recent constituency
meeting, a man came up to one of the leaders of the Troy church and said that a
church like yours is going to have to be cut off like a diseased branch from the
rest of the sisterhood of churches.
Exactly what you said.
It's the same kind of thing.
And you see, this is exactly what's going on in Angwin.
The Angwin church took my membership there in Angwin, California, and they went to
the conference president about some horrendous things that were taking place
just a few miles away in the Pacific Union College church.
And he said, how can we do anything about that?
You know, them bringing in this non-Adventist...
Episcopalian priest.
Episcopalian priest and leading them in spiritual exercises, teaching them how to
speak in tongues and whatnot.
And they went to the conference president and they said, you've got to do something
about this.
He said, what can we do about that?
When the Angwin church brings in dissidents like John Osborne, we can't do
anything about this as long as they are doing things like that.
In other words, the Angwin church has to be cut away before we can have unity in
our conference.
Right, and purity.
Purity, yes.
On this view, the individual has reality only as part of the group, and value only
insofar as he serves it.
Now, in the gospel, John, what gives the individual reality and worth and value?
The cross of Calvary.
Jesus would have died for only one.
And you see, in the gospel, we hear about the remnant in the book of Revelation.
The remnant, those who are left over, who are the faithful and true.
Not the majority, the majority community that unites itself together.
Incidentally, John, I want to just read in this context, and we'll get back to all of
this in just a second.
Revelation 16.
Revelation 16, verse 13.
And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon.
That's spiritualism.
Out of the mouth of the beast, Roman Catholicism.
And out of the mouth of the false prophet, Prostate Protestantism.
There's that threefold union that we just talked about here.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the
kings of the earth and of the whole world to gather them to the battle of that great
day of God Almighty.
So, they are gathering the nations.
And Rome is interested in finding causes to gather the people together.
It is, you know, it is very interesting, John.
Right after Vatican II, for example, we had the hippie movement that started.
When?
67?
68?
We're not going to tie the hippie movement in with Roman Catholicism.
Vatican II called for cooperation with the non-Christian religions.
You have the Beatles singing what kind of songs?
My Sweet Lord.
And who is that?
Hare Krishna.
Introducing Hare Krishna to the young people.
Don't even say that at the end.
Yes, to the young people.
And then they sing about Let It Be.
Mother Mary, when she comes to me in times of trouble, speaking words of wisdom,
let it be.
When I was going to school at La Sierra, just to show how far back this apostasy
goes, they were singing Let It Be in the Sabbath school at Loma Linda.
And that is a song about Mary.
So, you have Mary, you have Hare Krishna, all being brought into the youth.
There was an enormous youth upheaval right after Vatican II.
At the same time, the charismatic movement was being introduced and exploding in the
Roman Catholic Church all over Europe.
I traveled in Europe at that very time, about 66, 67, with my family.
And all over Europe, you have these hippies that are into spiritualism.
You have hundreds of hippies coming from America.
We traveled a few years later in Nepal, and we heard them tell us there of how
hundreds and thousands of American youth, as a result of the hippie movement,
came over to Nepal looking for Shangri-La, and the Nepalese authorities had to put
them by the hundreds on trains and ship them down to ports in India to be shipped
back to America.
But why was there a big upheaval?
In Germany, just before Hitler took control, a few years before, you had the
phenomenon called the Wandervogel.
The what?
Wandervogel.
Wandervogel?
Yes, it was when there was a hippie movement in Germany.
And you had these children of middle-class families walking all over Germany,
drifting all over, you know, into nature and all of these things, just like the
hippie movement.
Those young people then were formed into the Free Corps, they were called,
to do battle in the streets against the communists, and they eventually became the
hard core of the German military, or the Nazi movement.
And it's the hippies of the 60s that are becoming the hard core leadership of our
nation and our church right now.
And they're the promoting New Age and all of this.
And you see, it happened right after Vatican II.
And this happened in Germany before World War II, before Nazism?
Exactly.
And those hippies there became the avant-garde of the Nazi SS and the German
military machine.
You yourself in Jesuit Agenda 1 said to me, just as I did, you said, I knew that
when my generation came into power in this nation and in this church, that we were in
for a...
Enormous upheaval.
And this has all been repeated from what happened in Germany.
You see, what do the Jesuits want to do?
They know that if they can get the youth, if they can get the oncoming generation
and create an upheaval so that they break up all their ties to other things and they
get reoriented to certain causes, they are a mighty force to be used.
And we see 50 years ago this phenomenon of the hippie movement in Germany.
We see the collectivism that came in.
Today we have the hippie movement right after Vatican II.
We see this massive worldwide collectivism.
See, Nazism was like a trial run, and it had both strains of Roman Catholic
natural law at its foundation.
We still want to get, of course, into the systematic analysis of it.
But here, let me read to you a little more from page 17 here about collectivism.
The individual has reality only as part of the group and value insofar as he serves
it.
On his own he has no political rights.
Incidentally, I was just reading a few months ago the book on constitutional law
written by Lawrence Tribe, one of the foremost liberal constitutional law
scholars in the nation from Harvard.
And he said that the First Amendment right, that's the right of free exercise
of religion and non-establishment of religion, the First Amendment rights now,
according to law, are available to the individual only through the group to which
he belongs.
And when I read that, I thought, Aha!
Only available through the group or the church to which he belongs?
And I preached this.
I told about this in a sermon, and a woman came up to me afterwards and
she said, Bob, I've been through it.
I know what you're talking about.
She said, I came into a conflict because of my personal convictions with the
situation in my local church.
The issue went to a court of law.
And an analysis was made of the church's position in contradistinction to my
individual conscience.
And I lost the case because I was not part of that group, you see.
And now we have a phenomenon where the faithful are being disfellowshipped and
disenfranchised.
If that principle continues to hold true, that Lawrence Tribe mentioned,
disenfranchised from protection of being a member of a church, you see, in the face
of the law.
You know with the Supreme Court now, the majority being Roman Catholics,
believing in natural law, and isn't that all we heard in the Clarence Thomas thing
of natural law, that it's going to come right down, trickle down, right down,
across our nation and throughout our church.
Right.
That's not difficult to see.
That's right.
You see, this... and let me tell you this, John.
From my study of Jesuit writings, one of the major concerns of the Jesuit
order is to change people's worldviews.
And that's what we're looking at here.
To change people's worldview, for instance, in America, from individual
rights and the supremacy of individual rights, and we'll look at it in a
detailed, systematic way shortly, to the idea that the community is the
all-important thing and the individual must be sacrificed to the community.
Seventh-day Adventist Church in 1992, that is what is happening in our
denomination.
Have you ever... did you ever believe it would be possible, in such a short time,
to have the global worldview of the Seventh-day Adventist denomination change
as much as it has in the last year or two?
No.
And it's accelerating.
Unbelievable.
It's frightening.
Yes.
He, on his own, he has no political rights.
He has to be sacrificed for the group whenever it or its representative,
the state, deems this desirable.
Fascism, said one of its leading spokesmen, Alfredo Rocco, stresses,
the necessity for which the older doctrines make little allowance of
sacrifice, even up to the total immolation, that's the destruction,
of individuals in behalf of society.
So, that's very interesting.
And here we come here to the celebration, a gathering of community spirit.
And listen to the wonderful way in which it's presented.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, children played in neighborhood streets.
Sounds of young laughter echoed through open kitchen windows in preparation of the
gathering of the family dinner.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, there was a sense of family.
But I ask you, John, why was there a sense of family?
Because of Christ.
Because of Christ?
Because of Protestantism.
Protestantism, exactly.
And let me quickly grab something here so we don't lose it.
Lose it in our train of thought.
This book.
We've used that, that before.
By John Kirtney Murray.
I just want to emphasize once again, top Jesuit, John Kirtney Murray.
We hold these truths, Catholic reflections, on the American proposition.
He lays out in here the massive shift in America from the old Protestant values of
the Bible being supreme, of submission to the Bible, of acceptance of the Bible,
and acting on the Bible, and having self-sacrificing love as your motive,
and the supremacy of subjective rights, and how that has all been destroyed in
public life now through relativism and situationalism, and that is preparing the
way for Roman Catholic natural law.
Bob, I hate to keep harping on this, but this is exactly what we're seeing in
the Church.
Nothing that is decreed, nothing that is done when people are disfellowshipped,
is anything said about the Bible and the spirit of prophecy.
Everything is the Church manual, the Church manual, the Church manual,
the Church manual.
Anytime that somebody is disciplined or disfellowshipped, they always are on a
page such and such of the Church manual.
Why have we gotten away from this, that everything is in the Bible and the
spirit of prophecy?
We don't use that in the Seventh-day Adventist Church anymore for the
foundation of why we do things.
It's now, what does the Church manual say?
I see this exactly happening in the Church.
And what does the community of faith, quote-unquote, say?
You see, that is a good Jesuit term, the community of faith.
What does the, quote, Church say?
What does the General Conference say?
What does the Church manual say?
Instead of what we're used to, what does the Bible and the spirit of
prophecy say?
It's what does the community of faith, what does the General Conference,
what does the Church manual say?
John, here's the next one.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, teachers were recognized as revered
leaders.
They guided the innocent with wisdom and courage, empowered by an innate love of
children.
Sounds wonderful.
But John, if you travel to Varanasi in India, and I've been there, the Mecca of
India, of Hinduism, the degradation is unbelievable.
You don't see a city of light there.
You see a city of unbelievable darkness.
We came in our bus and here were, there was right outside our bus a dog with
an enormous ulcer on his mouth.
I have a picture of him.
The degradation, the filth, and the stench of the city was unbelievable.
This is Hinduism.
This has been tried for centuries, John.
The Bhagavad Gita has been around for about five, longer than the complete
Bible, thousands of years.
And Hinduism has been tried to the ultimate.
And it has, the verdict of history is that it produces unbelievable degradation,
pornography, evil, and the caste system, all of these things.
And now Hinduism is coming in as an angel of light to the Western society and has
been largely promulgated through rock music to the young people of the nation.
That was our era that did that, through the Beatles were very influential
in that bond.
And here, once upon a time, not so very long ago, happy moments seemed more
plentiful as we reveled in the carefree merriment of the good life.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, there was a sense of prosperity.
That prosperity was due, Ellen White says, to the two horns on that beast,
the lamb-like beast of Revelation 13, republicanism and Protestantism,
civil liberty and religious liberty.
The dynamo of Protestantism produced this prosperity and is from the wealth of the
Protestant nations that the Vatican is largely being financed today because the
Roman Catholic nations don't have any wealth hardly to produce because of their
degradation.
What we are looking at, John, is all of these dimensions of spiritualism and Roman
Catholicism that the verdict of history has declared to be utterly and completely
bankrupt now coming into the Protestant world, selling itself to the Protestant
world as being the answer to the problem which they themselves created in the
Protestant world.
It's an amazing development.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, the sun laid down to rest beside us in
recognition of another honest day's work gone by.
There's the work ethic.
Soothing breezes.
Do you know that in the time of Luther there were 150 feast days out of every
year?
Almost one day out of every two was a feast day where they didn't work and
nothing got done.
The work ethic came from the Puritans.
And now the new age comes in as if they have the answer to an honest day's work.
You go over to India and you see those long-haired gurus sitting in the lotus
position by the canals just meditating in a state of nirvana all day long.
They aren't working.
Tell me something.
Do you see the American labor unions playing a part in this crumbling of the
American work ethic?
I think so, John.
I think we see it.
Ellen Weiss says that in the last days that the labor unions would be foremost in
causing anarchy in our country, and that's why she tells us to stay out.
Because you see, the American work ethic has been lost because of the labor unions.
Yes, yes.
A gathering of community service.
Please participate in the birth of this creation, that's in Orlando here,
by joining us at The Celebration, a gathering of community spirit.
So this gives us another dimension to celebration.
It is this collectivism, which is identical to what was in Hitler's Germany,
where the individual finds his perception of reality and his sense of worth in the
community.
Bob, our flagship station for Prophecy Countdown, I'm on one of the major
television stations here in Orlando, primetime Sunday, Sunday morning.
How should I address this?
I mean, since Orlando, since the city that we are in, that Prophecy Countdown's
headquarters is just outside of, is going to be the first city of light,
how could I address this on television here to enlighten the people of Orlando of
what is behind all this?
You know, John, that hit me when I was studying this.
I said, here we have Prophecy Countdown, this dynamo of energy preaching the truth,
and the Lord has put it right here in juxtaposition to the city that is destined
to be the prototype New Age city for the nation with a thousand points of light.
Maybe God has placed us here for such a time as this, Bob.
Oh, certainly has.
Once upon a time, today and always, there will be a people made of magic,
as if blessed with a power all their own.
What does the gospel say?
The power comes from Christ, you see.
These are the quiet souls, these are the gentle souls, these are the souls who
right the wrongs of the world every day in every corner of our community.
Their secret rests not in wealth nor in the trappings of the times, but in the
power they have discovered in the gift of giving.
I found when I studied Buddhism, Buddhism even believes in self-sacrificing
love, but it can't produce it, because there has to be a new birth.
That's right.
That only comes from Christ Jesus.
That only comes from Christ.
Their presence radiates an illumination of spirit in the form of a light creating a
glow in the community that if multiplied would be felt across the country.
So you see, this is a massive cell job to get the people involved in New Age.
And you see, New Age, as we discussed last time, is an arm of the Roman Catholic
movement.
All of these things are coming together, being pulled together at this hour in
Earth's history.
Yet there is a false system of self-sacrificing that we find in Buddhism.
Do you remember during the Vietnam War that Pulitzer Prize winning photo of the
Buddhist priest that went out in the street and poured gasoline over himself
and lit the torch?
That is a photograph that is just...
you can never get it out of your mind.
That man was willing to douse himself with gasoline and be torched for the peace
movement.
And we find people who are in this false system of self-sacrificing.
So there is something that looks very pious and very holy and maybe even very
Christian and very righteous, but it is demonic.
Yes, that's so true, John.
And listen to the religions now with reference to Earth Day.
This is from the Associated Press.
They quote from Psalms 24, "...the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof."
With observance of Earth Day this week and an ecumenical ecology Sunday this weekend,
churches are planning strong representation at the United Nations Earth
Summit in Rio de Janeiro, June 1-12, which involves governmental delegates and
thousands of others from around the world.
An ecumenically-backed environmental Sabbath was set June 7 to call attention
to the international efforts to safeguard nature.
Now, in Freedom's Ring, in our June issue of Freedom's Ring, we looked at the call
by a Jesuit professor for a Sabbath to be held to promote unity around the world and
that everyone was to begin this Sabbath on Friday evening.
And it was to go all through the Sabbath and lead into the Sunday celebration of
Christ the King.
And everyone was to pray that the spirit of division would be exorcised from the
world.
You see how all of this ties together?
And here now, this very thing is coming to pass through an environmental Sabbath
being set June 7 to call attention to the international efforts to safeguard nature.
Churches have drawn together about this, says the Rev.
Ken Grant of the Presbyterian Church USA based in Louisville, Kentucky.
We woke up.
We've been sobered to learn of the harm being done to the environment.
Virtually every major religious body or their leaders, Protestant, Roman Catholic,
Eastern Orthodox, and Jewish, have joined the effort in the last few years with a
growing crescendo of concern.
The web of life is one, U.S.
Roman Catholic Bishop said last November, adding that the task of sustaining human
life itself cannot be separated from the care and defense of all creation.
Most major Protestant denominations, the Episcopal Church, United Methodist
Church, American Baptist Churches, and the United Church of Christ,
among others, have adopted calls to safeguard nature.
Judaism plunged strongly into the movement in an unusually inclusive meeting in
mid-March of leaders of all four wings of that faith, Orthodox, Conservative,
Reform, and Reconstructionists.
For Jews, the environmental crisis is a religious challenge, the group said.
As heirs to a tradition of stewardship that goes back to Genesis and that teaches
us to be partners in the ongoing work of creation, we cannot accept the escalating
destruction of our environment.
It is our sacred duty as Jews to take action.
So you see how this is a marshalling cause to draw all the churches, all the world
religions in, all the nations in, and all the individuals to develop a
spirit of collectivism and to promote the agenda for a one-world government.
I want to get back here now, John, to the encyclical.
Many interesting things yet here.
Now this encyclical letter that Pope John Paul II wrote shows how that all the
things that we are seeing recently in the environmental movement was propagated by
him years before this started taking place, and it's all starting to fit
together, Bob, why all these things are happening.
We had no idea that all of this fit together in some type of Jesuit agenda.
It's unbelievable.
John, I'm reading here from page 74.
It is above all a question of interdependence.
Now we have whole organizations such as a trilateral commission which are dedicated
to producing financial interdependence among the nations between Japan and
Europe, particularly Germany, and the United States, sensed as a system
determining relationships in the contemporary world.
So it is above all a question of interdependence.
The Pope is interested in bringing about this interdependence sensed as a system
determining relationships in the contemporary world, in its economic,
as we just discussed, like the trilateral commission, cultural, political,
and religious elements.
Notice the comprehensiveness of it, and accepted as a moral category.
When interdependence becomes recognized in this way, the correlative response is a
moral and social attitude, as a virtue is solidarity.
We learned in the last video that solidarity is a Catholic term for labor
unions.
Yes, for their activity in labor unions.
It's much larger, like celebration.
Celebration is not just liturgical change, but as the Ecmiadzin document in the World
Council of Churches points out, it is first of all for liturgical change,
but second of all to bring all of human life under the control of the Church to be
regulated according to the time.
Now, as we look at this issue of solidarity, and celebration now we see is
not only a Roman Catholic liturgical term, it is a comprehensive term that New Age
uses, and that is being used now to express the bringing together of the world
community in this worldview of collectivism, which was present in Nazi
Germany.
So the word celebration is first and foremost a Roman Catholic term,
it is then a New Age term, and then it is a general conference term.
Well, that too.
That's right.
We have accepted it from them.
When interdependence becomes recognized in this way, the correlative response as a
moral and social attitude, notice how the Pope is interested in developing moral
attitudes and social attitudes as a virtue, is solidarity.
So just as solidarity was the term for the labor union movement, Rome's labor union
movement, her showcase of how to bring communism down, her showcase of a labor
union based on the theological premises and teachings of Thomas Aquinas.
According to Malachi Martin, this solidarity has a much larger scope to it
than just solidarity, labor union in Poland.
As we pointed out last time, it is the word being used for the labor unions in
America.
But it is not only a word being used for labor unions, it is also a word being used
to describe the interdependence of the entire global community, because these
labor unions are the spear points of accomplishing this along with the activity
of Rome through celebration.
So we are looking at a very comprehensive plan.
This then is not a feeling of vague compassion or shallow distress at the
misfortunes of so many people, both near and far.
On the contrary, it is a firm and persevering determination to commit
oneself to the common good.
That is to say, to the good of all and of each individual because we are all really
responsible for all.
This determination is based on the solid conviction that what is hindering full
development is that desire for profit and thirst, that thirst for power already
mentioned.
See, the Jesuit concept, according to Courtney Murray here, is that the whole
American Constitution with its system of checks and balances rests upon the thirst
for power.
So they try to castigate the Constitution that way.
In actuality, a large aspect of the checks and balances aspect of our Constitution
came from Sir Isaac Newton's discovery of what happens in the atom and what happens
in nature with the protons and neutrons, negative and positive fields and all that,
keeping everything in balance.
And our checks and balances were designed to prevent the thirst for power,
to prevent the totalitarian control of one of the triad aspects of our government,
executive, legislative, or judicial, to keep each one from ultimately becoming
a totalitarian entity that would enslave the nation.
So it was for the protection and defense against power rather than a manifestation
of a system of government based on power.
So that's all very interesting too.
These attitudes and structures of sin are only conquered presupposing the help of
divine grace by a diametrically opposed attitude, a commitment to the good of
one's neighbor with the readiness in the gospel sense to lose oneself for the sake
of the other instead of exploiting him.
The exercise of solidarity within each society is valid when its members
recognize one another as persons.
Interdependence must be transformed into solidarity based upon the principle that
the goods of creation are meant for all.
Now this starts a very interesting concept here.
This is page 76.
Surmounting every type of imperialism and determination to preserve their own
hegemony, the stronger... and remember Malachi Martin said one of the great goals
of John Paul II was to destroy the nation system of politics and to create an
international system of a one world order.
Now John, look at what's happened in Europe.
Look at what Gorbachev has accomplished.
And Malachi Martin tells us he doesn't think in a recent interview in April of
this year, he doesn't think Gorbachev is finished.
No way!
He says if anything Yeltsin is short term and Gorbachev may be installed as the head
of this European economic community that is going to be the power base for the... I
have always thought that.
Don't count Gorby out by any means.
Just recently Gorbachev came to Germany and the people were just shouting in
ecstatic speech, Gorby, Gorby, Gorby.
So, surmounting every type of imperialism and determination to preserve their own
hegemony, the stronger and richer nations must have a sense of moral responsibility
for the other nations so that a real international system may be established
which will rest upon the foundation of the equality of all peoples and on the
necessary respect for their legitimate differences.
And Pope John Paul II orchestrated this five years ago.
And look what happened to Russia.
Look what happened to Eastern Europe.
Look at what has happened to the European economic community.
Let me get a book.
If people had any idea that this was orchestrated by the Pope and by his
soldiers, the Jesuits, five years before it took place and probably orchestrated
long before that.
This is just when it was published.
Publicly.
When they pull all the cords together.
Here's Malachi Martin's book once again, The Keys of This Blood, where he discusses
this.
And we're wanting to come back to this later because he tells how in his
interview how Gorbachev and in the book how Gorbachev has access to the inner
circles of this European economic community, to the highest power circles
and is exerting enormous influence.
Here I have a book, Euroquake, exceptionally informative and perceptive
about recent events in Europe and the shape of the emerging world economy.
And this book tells of the enormous power which is going to be generated by the
European economic community.
John, I'm reading from page 214 in Euroquake.
Finally, there are fears in the world Jewish community which may linger the
longest of all.
Few Jews can look with complete dispassion on an expanding Germany, even if the
causes and means of the expansion are completely different today from those of
half a century ago.
Hitler, the Nazis, and the Holocaust are inextricably identified with Germany.
The passage of a mere four decades cannot erase those memories, especially when
Deutschland, Oberalles, is being sung again at rallies in Germany overall.
And politicians all over Germany once more routinely invoke the idea of a glorious
German fatherland.
Schooled in the premise of never again, taught above all never to forget the
victims of the Holocaust, even those Jews who identify little with organized Jewry
know that if they wait to speak out until neo-Nazis or anti-Semites are in power
again in Berlin, it will be too late.
And we know that there has been a tremendous rash of anti-Semitic behavior
in Germany, and Helmut Kohl is feeling so strong now, and Germany is feeling flexing
its muscles so powerfully that they do not feel that they have to be accountable to
the rest of the world for some of their past.
And on the evening news we see the resurgence of the Nazi youth and these
militant groups or gangs that are trying to revive Nazism.
Yes.
John, back to the encyclical here on social concern by John Paul II.
We want to look a little more at this.
Solidarity is undoubtedly a Christian virtue.
Beyond human and natural bonds already so close and strong, there is discerned in
the light of faith a new model of the unity of the human race, which must
ultimately inspire our solidarity.
So what John Paul II is wanting to create is a new model of unity in the human race.
This supreme model of unity, which is a reflection of the intimate life of God,
one God in three persons, is what we Christians mean by the word communion.
This specifically Christian communion, jealously preserved, extended and enriched
with the Lord's help, is the soul of the Church's vocation to be a sacrament in the
sense already indicated.
So in this view, the Church is a sacrament.
It is the means of salvation, you see.
And the Church is very central to the whole concept of solidarity, of the new
model of globalism, of solidarity, a model of unity, and at the core of it is
the Church, the Roman Catholic Church.
Page 79.
Solidarity, therefore, must play its part in the realization of this divine plan,
both on the level of individuals and on the level of national and international
society.
So it's a divine plan, it's a new model, it's solidarity, it's communion,
it's Church as sacrament at the core of it.
The evil mechanisms and structures of sin, which we have spoken, can be overcome only
through the exercise of human and Christian solidarity, to which the Church
calls us and which she tirelessly promotes.
So there you have the ecumenical movement all tied in with this thing.
Only in this way can such positive energies be fully released for the benefit
of development and peace.
Many of the Church's canonized saints offer a wonderful witness of such
solidarity.
A few more quotes here.
The Church's social doctrine is not a third way between liberal capitalism and
Marxist collectivism, nor even a possible alternative to other solutions less
radically opposed to one another.
Rather, it constitutes a category of its own.
Well, if you've got communism, Marxist collectivism on one side,
and liberal capitalism on the other, and then this is another category,
it is a third way, it is a third category.
Nor is it an ideology, but rather the accurate formulation of the results of a
careful reflection on the complex realities of human existence in society
and in the international order in the light of faith and of the Church's
tradition.
Its main aim is to interpret these realities, determining their conformity
with or divergence from the lines of the Gospel teaching on man and his vocation,
a vocation which is at once earthly and transcendent.
Its aim is thus to guide Christian behavior.
It therefore belongs to the field not of ideology, but of theology, and
particularly of moral theology.
The teaching and spreading of her social doctrine are part of the Church's
evangelizing mission, and since it is a doctrine aimed at guiding people's
behavior, it consequently gives rise to a commitment to justice according to each
individual's role, vocation, and circumstances.
Today more than in the past, page 84, the Church's social doctrine must be open
to an international outlook in line with the Second Vatican Council, the most
recent encyclicals, and particularly in line with the encyclical which we are
commemorating.
Here I would like to indicate one of them, the option or love of preference for the
poor.
And that's, like I mentioned before, that is a very common Jesuit term,
the preferential option for the poor.
You think that applies to the great homeless drive that we have to take care
of the homeless?
Now this looks so pious, Bob.
I mean, who would be against helping the homeless?
I mean, nobody but a terrible, terrible, demonic person would not want to
help the homeless.
Yet, does that fit into this great Jesuit plan?
Well, as we mentioned in...
I don't think we got fully into it, but in the Jesuit plan for the world
church to be, one of the theses that was laid down by Carl Rayner and his
colleague, Heinrich Freis, was that all the churches need to work together in
these programs, interchanging and intermingling and thus they develop this
bond, this ecumenical bond, you see.
Bob, I cannot tell you how many people have written letters and sent church
bulletins to where the local Seventh-day Adventist church and the local Seventh-day
Adventist church pastors working with the quote, ministerial association,
and they all have these organizations to where they're helping the poor and the
needy and the homeless.
That sounds wonderful, but it's a Jesuit plan as a way to piously bring all the
churches together.
It's ecumenicalism.
Yes, and that book, Unity of the Churches, by Carl Rayner, the top Jesuit scholar of
this century, rests upon the BEM document.
Came out, remember, one year after the BEM document.
And the BEM document, in turn, rests upon the agenda of Vatican II.
Page 86.
It is necessary to state once more the characteristic principle of Christian
social doctrine.
The goods of this world are originally meant for all.
Now notice how he spells this out.
The right to private property is valid and necessary, but it does not nullify the
value of this principle.
Private property, in fact, is under a social mortgage, which means that it has
an intrinsically social function based upon and justified precisely by the
principle of the universal destination of goods.
What does that sound like?
It sounds like that the Roman Catholic Church owns everything and that they allow
you to have your private rights until they conflict with their rights, and then their
rights take precedence over your individual rights.
Social mortgage.
Your private property is under social mortgage to be called in when necessary.
Whenever we want to, we will.
To destinate for the poor, etc.
So you see, this is a very interesting concept of socialism, isn't it?
That private property is under a social mortgage.
Rome knows that at the core of the liberties of this nation and the western
democracies is the concept of private property.
Private property is considered to be one of the most fundamental rights of the
rights of free people to own private...
And what did communism do?
Take away...
Then the people are vulnerable.
Right.
And they're vulnerable to social engineering and change, and we want to
look at that a little later.
Page 87.
In this respect, I wish to mention specifically the reform of the
international trade system, which is mortgage to protectionism and increasing
bilateralism.
The reform of the world's monetary and financial system.
He's interested in reforming the world's monetary and financial system.
That is happening as we speak.
Today recognized as inadequate.
In fact, George Hunt.
Have you seen any of his videos?
Yeah.
About the world conservation bank that is being planned by the Rothschilds and
Rockefellers and the financial elite of the world have merged their interests now
with the environmental community to use the vast forests and wilderness areas of
the third world peoples as a tool for the creation of a one world monetary system.
Today recognized as inadequate.
The question of technological exchanges and their proper use.
The need for a review of the structure of the existing international organizations
in the framework of an international juridical order.
So get all of the international organizations settled into a framework of
international law and international juridical order.
The international trade system today frequently discriminates, etc.
The world monetary and financial system is marked by excessive fluctuation of
exchange rates and interest rates.
So he's going to try to solve that.
Page 88.
In the opinion of many, the international organizations seem to be at a stage of
their existence when their operating methods, operating costs, and
effectiveness need careful review and possible correction.
Obviously such a delicate process cannot be put into effect without the
collaboration of all.
There you've got that collectivism again.
Those that are not willing to collaborate must be exterminated.
This presupposes the overcoming of political rivalries and the renouncing of
all desire to manipulate these organizations which exist solely for the
common good.
The existing institutions and organizations have worked well for the
benefit of peoples.
Nevertheless, humanity today is in a new and more difficult phase of its genuine
development.
It needs a greater degree of international ordering, greater order of the
international community at the service of the society's economies and cultures of
the whole world.
None of what has been said can be achieved without the collaboration of all,
especially the international community.
This is page 90.
In the framework of a solidarity which includes everyone, beginning with the most
neglected.
But the developing nations among themselves have the duty to practice
solidarity among themselves, and with the neediest countries of the world,
it is desirable, for example, that nations of the same geographical area should
establish forms of cooperation, which will make them less dependent on
more powerful producers.
Interdependence is already a reality in many of these countries, and on and on he
goes.
He's just prophesying what would take place in 1991, 1992.
It's so obvious.
And he did that five years ago.
Yes.
They've been planning it a lot longer than five years, though.
It's just that's when they've decided to make it public.
I tell you, of all the popes that I have become acquainted with in my lifetime,
none of them have the ability or been able to do what Pope John Paul II has done.
It's phenomenal how the world has bowed at his feet, acknowledging him as the
religious leader of the world.
That's right.
When he writes something, boy, everybody listens.
And to realize that he, quote, prophesied about all this years ago,
before it actually happened.
Now we can see who was behind it all.
That's right.
A little more about these thousand points of light.
This is from a book by Tex Mars entitled Millennium, a chapter, the order and its
master plan.
Step by step and stage by stage, humanity is achieving oneness.
Each day that passes brings some new insight or event which shows conclusively
that the plan is working out.
Today, the plan unfolds at an unprecedented rate, bringing all gradually
to the envisioned goal.
End quote.
These were said by Benjamin Cream to be the words of the master, New Age leader,
the Lord Maitreya, claimed to be the coming Christ for the New Age.
According to Cream, a fundamental change engulfs the world.
And in this chapter he discusses a thousand points of light, which I thought
would be interesting for you, John, since you're here at this community.
In Orlando, the very first one of these cities of a thousand points of light,
I'm very interested in that.
Possibly the best description, this is page 72 of the book, possibly the
best description of the plan in terms of its call for a one world government is
found in a book generally unavailable to the public through bookstores,
but distributed widely among members of the order entitled Solar Man.
Authored by Thomas P. Ehrenzeller, this impassioned treatise predicts the
coming of solar man, a sort of super being who will preside over a world of
unparalleled prosperity and peace.
Ehrenzeller carefully describes how the world is to be grouped together in regions
with the European community being the cornerstone of the world government.
That's exactly what Malachi Martin says in Keys of This Blood.
Ehrenzeller, who at the time of authoring Solar Man, sat on the National Board of
Directors of the World Federalist Association, had his book published under
the auspices of a publishing house that used the name Apollo Books and is
supposedly headquartered in a small town in Minnesota.
Apollo was the Greek sun god, great sun god of the Greeks, and since the order
believes in the concept of a thousand points of light, a network of light which
emanates from the sun god, Lucifer, it is obvious why the name Apollo is used.
In his revealing book, Ehrenzeller quotes Thomas Paine, who once announced,
We have it in our power to begin the world over again.
But we need to begin anew, says Ehrenzeller, is a new world system.
Sounds like the Pope, doesn't it?
Exactly.
Sounds like our president.
If the leaders in power cannot see the new age coming, if they cannot help progress,
but rather impede it, then the peoples of the world will seek out new leaders.
Dropping over on page 73, Here again we see the belief of the order in a false god
who assumes the name of the sun deity, but in actuality is none other than
Lucifer.
He is the pretender who masquerades as the light of this world, and the many members
of the order networking around the world are the fabled a thousand points of light,
as Freemasonry loves to refer to them.
How revealing, then, the statement made again and again by President George Bush,
a high level mason and a member of other secret globalist societies, that his goal
as chief executive is to encourage and promote a thousand points of light across
America.
Page 74.
As one devotee of the new world to come has written, quote, by the year 2000 the
White House will be turned into a lighthouse.
Rays of light will emanate from Washington, end quote.
This gentleman is only partly right.
The rays may emanate from Washington, but it is not Washington that is their
primary source.
The primary source is Lucifer, whom occultists universally venerate as
the father of light.
No wonder the apostle Paul warned that Satan often comes to us disguised as an
angel of light and his demon spirits as ministers of righteousness.
Then he has on page 75 the six goals of the order.
The plan envisions the attainment of six specific goals by the order.
These goals involve both spiritual and material objectives.
Listed below are the six goals.
Goal one, the establishment of a new international economic order, identical to
what we saw... We know that that's going to happen in the process of happening.
Unified and under the direct command of the unelected elite on the highest level
board of the order.
Goal two, the establishment of what will appear to be a democratic one world
government, which will actually be controlled behind the scenes by the order.
Goal three, the conquest and subjugation by economic, financial and spiritual means
of the two superpowers, United States of America and Russia.
Look what has already happened to Russia, also known as the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics, now already diversified and changed.
Goal four, the ascension of the coming United States of Europe as the dominant
nation in a confederated one world government.
Notice how this parallels with Malachi Martin and with John Paul II's plan.
All these points.
The ushering in of a supreme world leader to preside over this new unified one world
government.
Guess who that's going to be?
John Paul II and ultimately Lucifer, of course.
Lucifer, according to great controversy.
Absolutely.
Goal six, the establishment of a one world religion which will coordinate all the
world's religions, cults, faith groups and spiritual beliefs under the guidance of a
supreme pontiff, the spiritual equivalent of the supreme world leader.
Now I'd like to turn to an interview that just took place in April of this year with
Malachi Martin.
And this is from the Gospel Truth, the publication of Southwest Radio Church.
I'll read a few paragraphs here.
He's telling about Dr. Martin and discussing about Gorbachev here.
Now,
it's interesting, John, that it has come out now that in some of the elections in
Germany as much as 90% of the votes, the majority of the votes that catapulted
him into office was Catholic votes.
Roman Catholic.
And see, the Pope swung his support behind Hitler at the critical moment and it
catapulted him into power and he knows he can do the same thing again.
In an editorial dated March 9, 1992 by Gorbachev, Dateline Moscow,
appearing in the Buffalo News, we quote, and here's Gorbachev writing,
quote,
And I think ours will be an ongoing dialogue.
The sense of mutual affection and understanding which resulted from our
meeting is to be found in each of our letters.
I cannot help but say that we share a desire to move forward and complete what
we began together.
Personally, I would be glad to take any opportunity to continue working with the
Pope and I am certain that this desire is mutual and will prove lasting.
You see, it was essential that Gorbachev fade from the forefront for a while so
that when he comes back he can come back with a roar.
As an international figure.
That's right, as an international figure, not as the president of the USSR.
And with the backing of one billion Catholics, that's one-sixth of the world's
population.
It is very difficult to describe the relationship which took place and shaped
between the Pope and myself because the intuitive personal element is always of
great importance in such relationships.
Simply put, when I was with him, I realized that the Pope had also played a
role in what we came to call the new political thinking.
Absolutely.
I am prepared to acknowledge that his speeches contain many ideas that were in
harmony with ours.
The closeness between us, of which I have just spoken, was not only personal but
intellectual.
What I have always held in high esteem about the Pope's thinking and ideas is
their spiritual content, their striving to foster the development of a new world
civilization.
Now it can be said that everything which took place in Eastern Europe in recent
years would have been impossible without the Pope's efforts.
This is Gorbachev speaking.
Him!
I mean, he's admitting that the crumbling of the Soviet Union was attributed to the
Pope.
You know, it's so interesting that Malachi Martin in Keys of this Blood sees the
shifting of Russian thinking into what he calls Gramsciism.
Did we discuss that in Jesuit Agenda 2?
I don't remember it, no.
Well, we'll look at it a little today.
Gramsciism, which is a certain type of communist thinking that saw as its primary
objective the neutralization of the potent Christianity that existed and the
secularizing of Christianity to extend socialist concepts over the world.
And how Roman Catholicism took this over from Gorbachev and Brezhnev and it
embraced it and imposed it on the Western world.
The Jesuits were foremost in this work, so much so that in his book The Jesuits,
which I have here by Malachi Martin.
The thing that's so amazing is that this makes Revelation 13 come together for our
Adventist people.
Even if a situation taking place in our church were not true, we could see
prophecy being fulfilled just from the world leaders now encircling the Pope and
the Roman Papacy.
How that it's all fitting together perfectly for the mark of the beast.
Well, what's interesting, John, is you remember the message of Fatima,
that if the world was dedicated to Mary, if enough penances were said and all this,
the conversion of Russia would take place.
Then look at the developments that took place in the 1980s.
And the crumbling of the Iron Curtain.
And the complete metamorphosis of Eastern Europe and the USSR.
And now all of this being merged into the European economic community with possibly
Gorbachev re-emerging now as an international leader of the fundamental
building block for the Pope's New World Order.
And the close and intimate personal relationship between Gorbachev and the
Pope as well as their relationship in political thinking.
And their absolute consensus that Europe forms the building block for this New
World Order.
The thinking is just merging precisely.
And the whole world wandered after the beast.
Yes.
Now it can be said that everything, everything which took place in Eastern
Europe in recent years would have been impossible without the Pope's efforts.
Now this tells us how Gorbachev and the Pope were working to bring about the very
thing that happened.
Well, I can't help but believe that the storm that is taking place as I'm looking
out the windows of the taping studio right now and I see the lightning and we hear
the thunder and the rain coming down in Taurus.
I can't help but think that that is a fitting example of the storm that's now
going on in our nation, in our world and in our church.
What did Ellen White say?
A storm is coming relentless in its fury.
Once it hits John there will be no let up.
Did you hear that?
Yeah, I heard it.
Once it comes there will be no let up.
And it will come like sudden terror as an overwhelming surprise.
And we must treasure the hours of peace that we have to prepare for this.
Amen, amen.
Get ready, get ready, get ready.
The events in Eastern Europe in recent years would have been impossible without
the Pope's efforts and the enormous role, enormous role, including the political
role which he played in the world arena.
So now we see, he says, now it can be told.
Gorbachev tells us that he and the Pope were working to bring about the very thing
to happen in Eastern Europe which happened.
Now that is a little, was hard for Western minds to recognize at first.
Why would Gorbachev want to preside over the dissolution of his own Communist
Party?
But now it's all coming out that there was a bigger plan.
And the bigger plan is to reconstruct all of this on an international scene and
possibly bring him in now to head that political coalition.
Mind-boggling.
Just absolutely mind-boggling, Bob.
One of Perestroika's especially important contributions in this regard was the
passing of a law on freedom of religion.
I am certain that the actions undertaken by Pope John Paul II are of immense
significance.
I have already spoken of his high spirituality.
I was also struck by his human qualities.
In a word, he is a great man.
I would not wish to exaggerate, but it is my impression that the Pope is a
great source of energy and he elicits a deep sense of confidence.
Pope John Paul II will play an enormous political role now that profound changes
have occurred in European history.
That's Gorbachev speaking.
Now then, what does Pope John Paul II think of Mr. Gorbachev?
Quote, It's true, there was something instinctive between us, as if we had
already known each other.
And I know why that was.
Our meeting had been prepared by providence.
He does not profess to be a believer, but with me I recall he spoke of the great
importance of prayer and of the inner side of man's life.
I truly believe that our meeting was prepared by providence.
I believe he is a man committed to principles and very rich in spiritual
terms, a charismatic man.
There are those who are convinced that economic difficulties were the source of
the crisis of the communist systems of Eastern Europe.
And of course this element was present and had a certain effect.
But we must not forget something very important.
There was not simply a crisis of communism, but there was also perestroika.
And perestroika means, among other things, conversion.
That is a Russian term, and it means conversion.
Conversion.
And you see, what did Mary say in the...
In the whole world, if Russia could be converted.
Yeah, the conversion predicted, Fatima predicted the conversion of Russia,
and perestroika, the Pope says, is a word that means conversion.
Now, Malachi Martin in an interview says, The EEC, European Economic Community,
is the power of the future.
Creating a market of 17 nations with 470 million people.
And I'm so glad, John, you've jumped in there.
You're not only here in Orlando to combat the city of light, but you've jumped in on
the superstation in Europe.
The Lord has been preparing things, hasn't he?
It will soon be expanded to the nations of Eastern Europe and the constituent members
of what used to be the Soviet Union.
I'm dropping down now to the next page.
You've got my... What would happen if I wrestled with this and dealt with this on
the European superchannel?
Can you imagine the impact this would have?
Well, John, let me tell you this.
We have had people sending us editorials from Northern European nations.
And in the editorials, they tell how fearful they are that this European
economic community is a ploy of the papacy to reassert its control over Europe like
it did centuries ago.
And, of course, let me just grab a book here, John.
Well, you've got me thinking, Bob.
Maybe, you know, I want to preach the three angels' message.
And that's the reason that we have appealed to our people for Props to
Countdown to be on the 40 million English-speaking homes of Europe on the
European superchannel out of London, England.
But maybe, under God's providence, there is a time when I need to expose
this...
The rapid, stealthy progress of the papal power.
...of the papal power to the people in Europe.
I'm open, Bob, I'll tell you.
I want to do what...
I want to fulfill the place that God has for us on the European superchannel and
around the world.
This is a book, John, by Penny Larneau, who is a liberal Roman Catholic.
Struggle for World Catholicism, People of God, page 11.
The Restoration, as John Paul's supporters call the return to Roman law and order,
parallels a renewed assertiveness by the largely reactionary Curia, the Church's
Roman court and central government.
Like most bureaucracies, the Curia aims to maintain its power, which was weakened by
the papacies of John XXIII and Paul VI.
John Paul's Vatican longs for the past.
The Pope wishes to restore an authoritarian church model based on that
of the Middle Ages, when the state and its institutions were uniformly Catholic and
there was a patriarchal ordering of the sexes.
As the Pope told a Polish audience in 1979, to deserve the name at all,
a civilization must be a Christian, read Catholic, civilization.
Well, Bob, I'm looking at the trees bending out the window and hearing these
loud claps of thunder, and we're just going to keep on taping in the midst of
this storm, and we've got to stand firm in the midst of the storm.
I think there's great application there.
Right.
Page 17.
The belief in the perfect society of a political religious Christendom stems from
the Middle Ages when the Church was the guardian of civil and religious
institutions.
So, John Paul II, in all of this that we've been discussing, has as his ultimate
goal to bring the world back to what it was like before Martin Luther in Europe?
Absolutely.
They want to go back before the Protestant Reformation.
They want the world to go back before Protestantism went rampant through the
world.
Okay, back here to the interview, John.
Here's Malachi Martin speaking.
For 73 years, the Soviet Union was ruled by the Communist Party, composed of 20
million members of paymasters, spymasters, executioners, jailers,
persecutors, spies, and a huge bureaucracy.
But with the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the loss of power by the
Communists, what has happened to this gigantic political conspiracy,
the most ingenious political machine in history for the control of human beings?
There were no trials, no executions, no placing of blame, no justice.
Did it just blow away?
No.
It is still all intact.
20 million executioners, paymasters, spies.
There were 10 cities in the former Soviet Union that were never marked on a map.
The inhabitants of those cities could not leave without special permission,
and no one could enter without special permission.
The reason was that these 10 cities were engaged in nuclear production and still
are.
He's talking in April of 1992.
There are vague news reports about them, but where are they?
Russia still has a powerful army with its nuclear missiles still pointed at the U.S.
The Russian Navy is equipped with titanium hull submarines, and the United States
still does not have one.
This hull provides the deepest penetration for submarine warfare.
This dangerous thing, these 20 million strong, most ingenious political machine
in history for the control of human beings, this dangerous thing with deadly
weapons still composed of spies, paymasters, conspirators, is still alive,
adapting to change like a chameleon, but waiting for its chance.
Just like the Roman papacy.
And John, when you know what Malachi Martin has said in The Keys of This Blood
here about Gramsciism and how this whole system of the KGB was to be used to
promote communism in a worldwide scenario, working through politics, working through
existing institutions, subtly, quietly, in a completely different type of
manner than Stalin did, and that it was using this kind of machinery to accomplish
that.
This will be a tool for the new world order par excellence.
Mr. Gorbachev, realizing all this, Gorbachev knows all this is still in
place, and he knows that the KGB is like a chameleon now, just waiting for its
chance.
He wisely withdrew.
But the prospects for Mr. Gorbachev in the new world order are very bright.
Once Russia and the members of the Commonwealth join the EEC, there will be
the need for a new leader, a moderate, popular with both sides.
The headquarters for the new world order will not be Strasbourg or Brussels,
but a new thing called the CSCE, the Council for Security Cooperation of
Europe, a 35-member organization.
It will need a new, dynamic head, acceptable to both sides, and probably Mr.
Gorbachev will be the head, and thus enter as the leader of the new world order,
unless there is an accident of history.
You can be assured that Gorbachev is going to come back much more powerful on a
global scale, and he is going to be one of the foremost leaders in the, quote,
new world order that is trying to be organized.
Gene Kirkpatrick, former U.S.
ambassador to the U.N., recently stated in an editorial that there was an emerging
new world order, but it was rising up out of Europe, not Washington, D.C.
Malachi Martin comments, both Mr. Bush and Mr. James Baker have said that the United
States and Europe would establish a new market structure extending from the
beaches of California, across Europe and Asia, to Vladivostok on the China Sea.
Needed is a new system of financial exchange, new banking laws, forced upon
every nation, including ours, for the new world order, which is just around the
corner.
Even though the present Pope may not like it, he will have to go through with it.
Mr. Gorbachev seems to be the prime candidate acceptable to both East and
West.
The relationship of the Pope and Gorbachev is coming along very slowly.
A few more items here, John.
Malachi Martin is answering a question here.
Here's the question.
In as much as the new world order is evidently upon us and it is coming out of
Europe, do you interpret it to be the revived Roman Empire?
Malachi Martin.
No, I do not.
It will include all the lands occupied by the ancient Romans, but the religion will
not be Christianity or Catholicism, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, or any religion
known today.
It already has its own religion, if we want to call it that.
It is called the New Age.
The New Age outlook is based on this, that all men and all women are brothers
and sisters and we must turn as a whole race, regardless of color or religion,
to join together in building a new world in which the rights of man will be
preserved and in which prosperity will be fostered and in which war will be declared
impossible and the environment will be almost deified and sanctified and man will
build his own earthly home.
The New Age movement is at this moment influencing our present policies.
Have you noticed that in times past they used to be a little fearful of using the
term New Age or being affiliated or associated with New Age in any way,
but now they are just bold about it.
They just come right out.
They are more open.
Oh, they are just getting real open about being part of the New Age.
They just don't make any bones about it anymore.
That's right.
And then the interviewer asked this question.
I have noticed Mr. Bush's references to the New World Order using expressions like
a hundred points of light or a thousand points of light.
This is New Age theology.
Malachi Martin.
Of course it is.
There is a man of whom your readers would not have heard about by the name of
Jacques Attali.
He is a Frenchman.
He is the head of the European Bank of Research and Development which is set up
mainly with American equity to finance the restructuring of the financial
institutions of Eastern Europe.
He is a powerful man and this bank is also very powerful based in London and Paris.
It will also be very influential in the New Europe.
But if you listen to Attali and read his material you will discover that he is a
proponent of euthanasia.
He is completely a religion, Jewish or Christian.
He openly states that once a man reaches the end of his productivity he should be
put an end to his life.
Why waste money and occupy space?
This is exactly what the Nazis said.
After a while they said we are so short on food we can't keep these people going.
Let's exterminate these people that are mentally defective or people who are not
productive for society.
Well, that's all very interesting.
I'd like to hit a few more things here, John, before we get into a historical
sweep.
We have had in our church, in our structured church, a very comprehensive,
very deep, very broadly based statistical analysis, a survey that was done recently
called Value Genesis.
And as I read the reports of it, it was very clear to me, immediately I was
nervous about the term.
Value Genesis?
Value Genesis.
Where does that term come from?
Is it in the Bible?
We hear Genesis on a lot of things.
Value Genesis.
And it was obvious to me that this was an attempt to statistically validate the
coming in of the celebration movement.
To provide a statistical reason and rationale.
The young people need more exciting services and all of this type of thing.
Well, we've heard all that before.
Well, in the book, The Jesuits, by Malachi Martin, he has a chapter on
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.
And you remember from our last video who he is.
He is the main influential figure.
Even though he's passed away now, his books live on.
Loads of books.
If you go into books in print, you just see loads of them.
He is the most influential figure in New Age.
He is a Jesuit.
And in discussing Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Malachi Martin is opposed to him.
And he tells about the type of vocabulary that Pierre Teilhard de Chardin concocted.
Here is page 288 in The Jesuits by Malachi Martin.
Speaking of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, he himself preferred the terms
cosmogenesis and anthropogenesis.
His self-made vocabulary was dizzying.
Amorization, hominization, christogenesis, christification, pluralization,
excentration, biogenesis.
Notice all the genesis words.
Cosmogenesis, anthropogenesis, christogenesis, biogenesis are examples of
a far longer litany.
And now we have value genesis.
Where did we get that term?
Where did we get genesis?
The only vocabulary that I know of, and apparently from Malachi Martin,
a self-concocted vocabulary of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.
And what does genesis imply going back to the beginning?
And a change, a genesis, a development, a creation.
A creation!
Sure, a creation.
And of course, reading here again from 288, what did Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
believe?
He says, once individual men and women appeared on the scene in several disparate
groups all over the globe, there started a long last stage of development toward a
total unity of all individuals in the omega point of history.
We are still in the middle of that development.
Once complete unity has been achieved, Christ, who will be the omega point,
will appear.
Man will then be more than man, will be what Teilhard called ultra-human.
The cosmos will be transformed and the glory of it all will be established.
I have here one of Teilhard de Chardin's books, The Future of Man, where he uses
those terms, cosmogenesis and anthropogenesis.
Well, what was this survey taken by the General Conference and how does it relate
to what we're talking about today, Bob?
I'm just pointing out where did that term come from?
Where do we get this term?
Well, obviously it's a Jesuit term.
It's right out of the Jesuits.
Just like celebration is right out of the Jesuits.
The terminology that we are using in the structure of the Seventh-day Adventist
hierarchy, almost all of the terms are right out of Jesuit information,
right out of Jesuit thought.
It's amazing.
That's right.
We know of nowhere else where these terms have been coined other than Pierre
Teilhard de Chardin.
All these terms with Genesis tacked on the back.
I want to get a book here, John, now and Bob, do you believe that the
majority of our leadership of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, our
Conference leaders, know where this stuff is coming from or that they are just being
led as lambs to the slaughter, sheep to the slaughter, like the laity
are?
I think most of them are being led as lambs to the slaughter.
They have adopted the principle of laying aside their own judgment and accepting the
judgment of the Church, which is a Jesuit principle.
And based on that principle, they just follow blindly along.
And they are being conditioned as well as the rest.
But there is obviously a hard core of determined individuals somewhere that are
bringing in these terms, bringing in these logos, bringing in these concepts and
articles.
Some of them we can identify.
Now, John, I would like to talk a little bit about what has happened in
Catholicism, natural law, and a little bit about family feuds that happen within
organizations.
Because I have just picked up a very interesting book here entitled,
Born in Blood, The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry.
And here the author, John J.
Robinson, in this book, establishes in hundreds of pages the connection between
the Knights Templar, which we talked about in the last video, and the Masons.
I'd like to back up far beyond that year of Earth's history and look at natural law
now, Roman Catholic natural law.
We have done a number of issues of Freedom's Ring on natural law.
And our last issue dealt with natural law and the New World Order.
What issue are you on now in printing?
Do you have a number?
Yes, this is volume 3, number 3.
The April-May issue, Natural Law and the New World Order.
1992.
Right, 1992.
And this issue, we look at the theory of Roman Catholic natural law.
And the more I am studying the theory of natural law in Catholicism and the history
of it, it provides a key to understanding the common denominator.
It is the common denominator between many of the activities of Roman Catholicism and
the family, even though they may feud.
Roman Catholicism suppressed, the papacy suppressed the Masons at the insistence of
the kings of Europe, because the kings were getting furious at the Templars.
The Templars were owning so much land and so much wealth.
King Philip of France laid a plot against them.
And he bided his time and on a Friday the 13th he arrested every every knight
Templar in his nation at exactly the same time in the morning of Friday the 13th,
except for 13 knights Templar.
And it's believed that much of the superstition about Friday the 13th harks
back to that time.
He burned the Grand Master of the Knights Templar at the stake.
But the Knights Templar had been an order in the Roman Catholic Church that rapidly
grew and became the most powerful, probably the most powerful order there in
the 13th and 14th centuries.
They went over to the land of Palestine in the Crusades.
They made contact with the occult over in Arabia.
And that became part of their makeup in the occult connection.
And that's where many of their symbols come from.
You see the symbols right here on the front of the book.
On the back page of this book we read Historian Robinson persuasively links
Freemasonry's origins and goals to the once powerful and wealthy Knights Templar
order.
If there is only one book you read concerning the beginnings of Freemasonry,
I would highly recommend this one.
This is from the Montana Masonic News.
It is a fascinating account of the Knights Templar after the death of de Molay in
1313 to the establishment of the Grand Lodge of England in 1717.
Basically, in a nutshell, the Knights Templar had to go underground for
centuries and came back up.
And that's one reason for all the secrecy.
The lodges provided havens when they were being persecuted after their suppression.
We want to come back to this later because this is quite significant.
But let's go now to the foundations of Roman Catholic natural law.
And I'm taking the material for this from this book Reason Informed by Faith,
Foundations of Catholic Morality by Richard M.
Gula, SS.
He is a professor of moral theology at St. Patrick's Seminary in Menlo Park,
California.
Holds a PhD from the University of St. Michael, Toronto.
And when I began researching, John, in chapter after chapter, what he tells us
about natural law, it was absolutely fascinating.
Let me bring to you some of the basic points here and the fundamental concepts
about natural law.
He starts right out on page 220 in his chapter, The Natural Law in Tradition.
The natural law is central to Roman Catholic moral theology.
In other words, it is the central feature.
It is an essential, fundamental, central issue.
It is the kind of reasoning which faith informs.
Perhaps the single most characteristic feature of traditional Catholic morality
is that the Church can teach a morality which is applicable always, everywhere,
and for everyone because it relies on the natural law as the basis for its teaching.
In fact, the claim of the Roman Catholic natural law tradition is that moral
knowledge is accessible not just to believers, but to anyone who is willing to
reflect critically upon human experience.
Now, do we believe that as Protestants?
What did Martin Luther say?
The things of the kingdom are not understood except to the person who has
slain reason and who has accepted faith in the word as his dominant feature of his
experience.
Spiritual things are spiritual things.
But see, here is a natural law that the unbeliever understands as well as the
believer.
So that tells us something right there.
The advantage of using natural law is that the Church shows great respect for human
goodness.
Now, what does the Bible say?
Jeremiah 17, 9.
The human heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
Who can know it?
And our only righteousness is righteousness by faith in Christ,
infinite righteousness.
But here, the advantage of using natural law is that the Church shows great respect
for human goodness and trusts the human capacity to know and choose what is right.
And the Jesuits have been renowned about that for years.
I mean, everyone knows what good works the Jesuits do because they do all these
wonderful things for the poor and for the homeless and for the destitute that makes
them wonderful, godly people.
But that's just not the way it is.
Does the human being have the unregenerate man have capacity to know and choose what
is right, apart from the Holy Spirit?
That's exactly the same thing that's going on with celebration in our Church.
The end justifies the means.
If it has some type of a religious connotation, some type of a holy and
sanctimonious exterior, that must make it alright.
Instead of looking at the overall scope of where it came from or the foundations of
where this stuff came from and ultimately where it's heading, it's just,
does it have a sanctimonious garb to it?
Yes.
We know that the human heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked
and cannot choose what is right without the aid of the Holy Spirit.
Absolutely.
The human heart the carnal heart, Paul said in Romans 8 is carnal it is an
enmity with the law of God.
Look at all the people that are coming to church though.
This shows that it's alright because we're getting all these people coming back to
church now and the young people need this music and they need this drama and they
need all these different things and we need to know how to get into a person's
head and manipulate them to get them to come back to church.
And so if we use all of these satanic methods to get people back to church,
then it's alright.
The end justifies the means.
The end justifies the means is fundamental to Jesuitism, isn't it?
Also, by means of appealing to natural law the church can address its discussion and
claims for the rightness or wrongness of particular actions to all persons of good
will, not just to those who share its religious convictions.
So natural law is a very broadly based phenomenon.
It is considered to be accessible to all humanity, regenerate or unregenerate.
It shows great respect for the human goodness and it trusts the human capacity
to know and choose what is right.
Therefore, it's really spiritualistic in its roots because it doesn't acknowledge
the fall of man.
It doesn't acknowledge the depravity of man in his need for a savior.
Now, what about the roots of natural law in antiquity?
The roots of natural law.
Joseph Fuchs wrote a major work entitled Natural Law, a Theological Investigation.
He maintains that Revelation, that's the Bible, adds nothing new to what we can
discover of the material content of morality through reason.
Revelation, that's the Bible, what is revealed by God, adds nothing new to what
we can discover of the material content of morality through reason.
So what Joseph Fuchs here is saying is that through reason we can understand
everything we need to know about morality and the Revelation of the Bible adds
nothing new to it.
So you see, reason is the final determiner of natural law.
Now, in the book...
That's the French Revolution, Bob!
The goddess of reason!
This is interesting, John, what you mention here about the French Revolution.
Because in these books that are emerging, these men who are researching the Masons,
they are pointing out how the Masons laid the groundwork for the French Revolution.
And how when they would open up a prison the Masons who were prisoners in there
would give the secret sign and they would be spared and the others would oftentimes
be executed.
But this matter of reason is so significant because it, along with
hierarchism, those two are considered by Daubigny in his History of the Reformation
to be the chief great enemies of Christianity.
Here it is, 171.
Christianity has two great adversaries, hierarchism and rationalism.
That's the elevation of reason.
So, notice now, natural law rests upon what?
Reason.
The Bible adds nothing to it.
Reason.
And so it is a system that rests upon rationalism, upon reason.
Alright, now the Greek influence.
What impact did the Greeks have?
The Stoics were the earliest ones to develop a notion of natural law to a
significant degree.
They contributed to the natural law tradition by emphasizing nature,
this is page 221, and the moral requirement to conform to what is given in
nature.
Now here you have the ancient Greeks, the Stoics.
They believe in the order of nature.
They emphasize nature and the moral requirement to conform to what is given in
nature.
Does that ring any bells with what we talked about earlier with the
environmental concerns and man fitting into the environment?
Environmental concerns and man fitting into the environment.
You know there is an interesting passage, John, in Romans where Paul takes up this
issue.
Romans, chapter 1.
You're used to carrying your little Bible in your coat pocket, aren't you?
I saw you looking for it there.
In fact, when I'm in a pinch, that does better than the big Bible because I know
what side of the page it's on.
Okay.
Here, verse 16.
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.
See, Paul was contending against this Greek philosophy.
Hellenism had spread all across the Roman Empire.
He had to contend against the same kind of thing as we do.
It was the worship of the environment, the worship of the creature rather than
the Creator.
But Paul says, I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of
God unto salvation to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to
the Greek.
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith as it is
written, the just shall live by faith.
What do we conform to?
We conform in our worldview as Christians to the word of God, to the will of God,
to the law of God, to the character of God, not to the order of nature.
Now, Bob, you've probably already figured this out, but it just hit me that this
environmental plan and the thing of Catholicism being the foundation for this,
that this is all leading to pantheism.
Oh, sure.
Which Ellen White says was a part of the Alpha Apostasy, and she says the Omega
would be of a much more startling nature, that this new age is going to be the
pantheism that is resurrected in the last days.
Exactly, and it's the Omega Christ.
They talk about the Omega point of verse history, the Omega Christ.
The new age, you see, she said, would be of the same nature, but it would
be of a much more, it would be much more startling.
That's right.
And so resurgence of pantheism is coming through new age and the environment where
God is in everything.
Yes.
And you see, then it spreads into our church.
That is so clear.
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and
unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness, because that which may
be known of God is manifest in them, for God has showed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen,
being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead.
So the things of nature are designed to point to God and conformity to God and his
law, so that they are without excuse, because that when they knew God,
they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in
their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of
the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man and to birds and
four-footed beasts and creeping things, so they gave the glory that was due to God
to the environment, to the creature, and therefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies
between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie and worshipped and
served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
So it's obvious to me that today the environmentalists are the new proponents
of pantheism.
Well, it's this submission to the order of nature, which is the ancient Stoic concept
of natural law, which was incorporated into Roman Catholicism.
So this idea of conforming to what is given in nature is very fundamental to
Roman Catholic natural law.
They got it from the pagans.
They got it from the Stoics, from the Greeks.
For the Stoics, the goal of philosophy was to achieve right moral conduct.
Sounds good.
Absolutely.
Sounds wonderful.
As thoroughgoing materialists, they believed that the world was an
interconnected series of events and that right moral living came with conforming to
the given world order.
Don't fool with mother nature.
It may be taken as their basic moral imperative.
Sounds like the environmentalists of today.
Abiding by this maxim demands accepting what is given in nature as it is,
cooperating with the interconnected rhythms of life and not attempting to
control or shape nature to fit a personal goal.
Any talk of self-direction would make no sense to the Stoics.
Since the given order of events will ultimately assert themselves according to
their own design anyway, the human task is simply to capitulate to what is given.
Aristotle influenced the natural law tradition, especially in St. Thomas.
Now, St. Thomas was the greatest systematic theologian the Roman Catholic
Church ever had.
The law of nature is the orientation of all beings toward their perfection.
Since the specific nature of humans is rationality, reason, morally good actions
would be those which are rationally directed toward the full actualization of
human potential.
So what is it?
Now, that's a very significant thing for natural law.
Let me read that again.
The law of nature is the orientation of all beings toward their perfection.
Since the specific nature of humans is rationality, reason, morally good actions
would be those which are rationally directed toward the full actualization of
human potential.
Now, this concept of human potential is very fundamental in psychology.
Achieving your full potential.
I remember a professor that I had.
You're having courses in our churches.
What do you mean, Bob?
How to fulfill your potential to know your spiritual gift.
That's why all of these seminars are being held in our churches across the nation on
finding out what your spiritual gifts are so that you can go along with this same
concept of being into your full potential.
It sounds very good.
Very pious.
I had a professor, John, who spoke about this issue of achieving your full
potential being the main goal.
And if your current mate doesn't help out with that, maybe some adjustment needs to
be made there.
Like getting a new one?
Well, he did just that two months after class.
He was going around training the ministers all over North America in marriage
enrichment.
Marriage encounter seminars.
Training the ministers how to enrich marriage.
Training the ministers how to do this.
And he enriched his marriage by getting a new wife.
He came on a flight back to Andrews.
Fell into conversation with a woman sitting next to him.
By the end of the flight, they decided they wanted to spend the rest of their
life together.
He left his wife and two kids.
That's a way to enrich your marriage.
And by the way, a physician friend of mine called me a few weeks ago and he was
talking to me for about an hour or two on the phone one Sunday.
He said, Bob, we had friends who were at a convention.
Adventist friends.
And they went into a booth run by Roman Catholics.
And when the Roman Catholics found out they were Seventh-day Adventists,
they said, Oh, you're Seventh-day Adventists.
We have a workshop that we designed for your church.
And they said, Oh, really?
What is it?
It's the Marriage Enrichment, the Marriage Encounter Workshop.
Oh, the Marriage Encounter Workshop that all the Constantines are promoting.
Yes.
Why, sure.
And that was designed by the Roman Catholics?
So after this phone conversation, this doctor, who is very knowledgeable in
all of this New Age stuff.
He's a personal friend of Constance Comby.
He got on the phone and he called the Marriage Encounter Center in his area and
talked to them and said, Where did this, where was this developed?
Where did it come from?
The Marriage Enrichment, Marriage Encounter Program.
And they said it was developed by a Spanish priest in Spain in 1963.
One year after Vatican II, a Catholic priest in Spain develops a workshop.
The Marriage Enrichment Workshop that are being used and promoted today in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
Yeah.
Okay.
The Roman influence.
Whereas the Greeks emphasized nature, the Romans emphasized the law of the
natural order.
They wanted to establish political order.
And they spoke of natural law as the innate power of reason to direct action.
Notice this whole thing has a pagan base.
The ancient Greeks, ancient Romans.
To live according to the law given in nature is to live according to what reason
commands.
And then the author here goes through a number of Romans that were significant in
developing this concept of natural law.
And he comes down to the jurist, the Roman jurist, Ulpian.
And Ulpian taught natural law as being what nature has taught all animals.
This law is not peculiar to humans but is the generic rule of action common to
humans and to animals.
In this sense natural law comes close to the idea of animal instinct.
Now can you think this is page 222, 223.
Can you think, John, of anyone in modern times who has studied instinct as a key to
understanding the human mind?
What about Freud?
Sigmund Freud, absolutely.
What did he say?
He said that the sexual drive or instinct Everything was sexual.
Yes.
Sigmund Freud.
So you see how this basic concept of Ulpian in Roman jurisprudence,
his law of nature concept was that it is the generic rule of action common to
animals and to man.
In this sense natural law comes close to the idea of animal instinct.
Ulpian's understanding of nature leads to identifying the human with animal
structures tendencies and behaviors.
That is the foundation of our modern psychology.
And you combine that with the other dimension of the human potential movement
the human potential concept of modern psychology.
And what do you have?
Modern psychology rests upon the same foundation base as Roman Catholic natural
law.
Modern psychoanalysts.
Absolutely.
What did Ellen White have to say about psychology at the end of time?
She said hypnotism and psychology would work marvelously upon the last generation
just before the close of probation.
Don't we see that happening?
And John the church growth movement I one time had as part of a faculty to analyze a
potentially new faculty member who was at that time a professor at the seminary and
he was teaching church growth and he brought all of his materials and he spread
them out and we spent all day long.
And I immediately picked up as soon as I saw the materials they were all talking
about Freud and Carl Rogers and all of these men.
By the way let me just grab a book here entitled Psychoheresy.
You can get it from the ABC.
You can order this It's amazing how much of this stuff you can get from the ABC
That's what's so frightening.
Well this thing fortunately exposes the psychology of our day.
But this book written by Martin and Dieter Bobgen tells us at the very beginning of
the book how the men who have founded our modern psychology that's Freud and Rogers
and Carl Jung were all deeply into the occult.
All of them were deeply into the occult.
And Carl Jung even had his own personal familiar spirit by the name of Philemon.
These are the dominant men who have shaped our psychology.
And John just think of the extent and influence of psychology today.
Through psychology the gospel has been destroyed in our ministry.
The psychology of church growth and this man that we were analyzing all day that
day with his church growth concepts that rested upon Freud and Rogers and these
psychologists.
He wanted to make all the members of the church mini-counselors who were trained in
all of this psychology.
That's the whole purpose of labs 1 and 2 of calling and caring ministries is
because they want to make everybody counselors and psychoanalysts and be able
to get inside people's heads.
It's modern psychology.
But John it is just unbelievable when you realize that the concepts of this modern
psychology rests upon Roman Catholic natural law.
Reason being the foundation and the idea of looking at the instincts of man looking
at the mind of man fitting into the order of nature.
These concepts have replaced Christianity in our ministry.
And that's one of our fundamental problems.
And in this way through these natural law concepts Roman Catholicism has destroyed
our ministry.
And they're sending all of our pastors and assisting our pastors take courses in
psychology for marriage counseling and all this kind of stuff.
And they're getting into all this modern psychoanalysts and stuff from Freud and
all of these guys.
And how can our men who are supposedly called to the ministry be studying and
getting into all of this psychology and still keep their minds clear for the
preaching of the gospel?
It's impossible, Bob.
You can't do it.
The two do not mix.
They're incompatible.
They're mutually exclusive.
I've got to get something else here, John.
I picked up this book recently.
Actually, this is one of two volumes.
Both of them are this thick.
A New Critique of Theoretical Thought by Herman Deweyweird.
We quoted from him last time.
We quoted from Deweyweird last time.
This man is a very profound man and he tells us in here how he's a professor of
philosophy of law.
This whole set of books is entitled A New Critique of Theoretical Thought.
And what he does is he tears apart all this modern philosophy and says it is not
Christian.
Amen.
And that the human heart, you know, at the root of what he is saying is the
human heart has been built by God with a religious orientation, with an orientation
to God that cannot be denied.
It cannot be destroyed.
It is part of the makeup of man.
And therefore true religion, veritable religion, is absolute self-surrender to
God.
And God has to be God.
He is beyond the creation.
He is the absolute one.
And we have to surrender absolutely to Him.
And if we fail to do that, we surrender to our idols because we make something that
is relative absolute.
That's idolatry.
That is idolatry.
And you see, one of the great dangers and the thing that many people are mixed up in
now is if you make something your ground point of reference, your starting point,
your reference point, that is your God, you see.
And God must be that through His Word to us.
And if we fail to make God our reference point in absolute surrender, we wind up
making something else absolute, such as church structure being the norm,
the reference point.
Making the church manual your basis is a form of idolatry.
Of course it is.
Idolatry, pure and simple.
And these people who go around using the church manual, our church leadership,
going around using the church manual as their basis for doing anything,
it's idolatry, pure and simple.
Anytime the Word of God and inspiration ceases to be your basis, it's idolatry.
And you see, back in the 1880s, our general conference men voted to never
ever have a church manual.
And because they knew that this very thing would happen, that one day it would be
exalted above the Word of God.
What were God's people, God's professed people, guilty of at the time of Mount
Carmel?
Idolatry.
We are repeating the history of ancient Israel.
We are just as guilty of idolatry in 1992 in the 7th Avenue church as they were at
the time of Elijah and Mount Carmel.
That's right.
Exactly.
Well, looking on here in the development of the thinking and natural law,
we've looked at Ulpian who identified the human with animal structures, tendencies,
and behaviors.
And we've seen how this concept forms the foundation for modern psychology,
particularly Freud, which orients human behavior to animal structures,
tendencies, behaviors, and instincts, rather than relating man to the image of
God and submission to His Word.
Under Ulpian, natural law now takes on a physicalist cast whereby the natural moral
order becomes identified with the properties, operations, and goals of the
natural or given structures of physical animal life.
So see, natural law looks at the structures of animal life as a source for
determining law.
According to such a view, the moral act becomes identified with the physical act
which corresponds to animal processes.
So notice how morality then becomes tied in.
It becomes the instincts of the human being become the norm for morality rather
than the Word of God.
This is an extremely dangerous development, you see, in the order of
nature.
By the High Middle Ages, two strains, and this is quoting out of this book by
Gula, Reason and Form by Faith.
By the High Middle Ages, two strains of interpretation dominated the natural law
tradition.
One, the order of nature, identified with the Stoics and Ulpian, focused on the
physical and biological structures given in nature as the source of morality.
So what does it do for its ground point?
It doesn't go to God.
It goes to the physical and biological structures in nature as the source of
morality.
The other, the order of reason, identified with Aristotle, Cicero,
and Gaius, focused on the human capacity to discover in experience what befits
human well-being.
So there, in this strain, there's two strains of natural law.
In this second strain, the individual using reason looks at human experience to
determine what befits human well-being, what is good for human well-being.
St. Thomas Aquinas, that's the greatest systematic theologian of the Roman
Catholic Church, accepted both strains.
Since his teaching is the seminal influence on the traditional Catholic use
of natural law, subsequent Catholic theology has been influenced by both
interpretations as well.
Okay, Thomas Aquinas' concept about natural law was this two-pronged concept,
John, and the idea is that humans participate in eternal law by reason.
There's that dominant reason again, and that we find out what natural law is
by discovering what being human really means, you see.
Notice it doesn't refer us to the Lord, it refers us to what does it mean to be
really human?
You know, your idea of that might be something completely different.
But reason is to be used in determining what being really human means.
And therefore...
I wish I had the quote.
I think it's from either six testimonies or nine testimonies where Ellen White says
that the very same things that brought about the French Revolution will happen
once again, just before Christ comes.
That's right.
In the Thomistic perspective, that's Thomas Aquinas, doing good is following
reason's lead to actualize human potential.
There's your modern psychology concept.
Evil is whatever frustrates or prohibits that full realization.
So the individual has to actualize their full potential.
This fundamental norm does not give content for action, but it does indicate a
basic disposition we ought to have, according to Thomas.
It encourages us to become who we are by acting in a way that would actualize our
potential.
That idea comes through over and over again.
Aquinas then moves on to the specific norms of natural law based on the natural
inclinations.
Now, would you like law based on natural inclinations of the human heart?
Terrifying.
That's what Nazism had.
The origin of our specific moral obligations lies in these natural
inclinations, which give content to the fundamental requirement to do good and
avoid evil.
The practical reason perceives the natural inclinations in human beings in the form
of moral imperatives.
So the natural inclinations in people become moral imperatives which become the
concrete conclusions of natural law.
So on the one hand, basic, just to summarize it and encapsulate it,
on the one hand, John, we have the order of nature concept with these environmental
type of thing of fitting into the environment, fitting into nature,
fitting, conforming to nature.
On the other hand, we have the order of reason concept of natural law,
which uses reason to evaluate what being truly human really means, and the good is
what actually promotes the full potential of the human being.
Now, what if someone else stands in the way of your full potential?
And you exterminate them.
That is exactly what, when you look at Nazism, John, what did Hitler say?
And that's National Socialism.
He said, the Aryan peoples have to actualize their full potential.
In other words, we have to become the master race, we have to achieve our full
potential and let nothing stand in our way.
Okay, there's your order of reason.
On the other hand, in order to accomplish that, the order of nature natural law had
to be obeyed by biological purity, racial purity.
You see, the subhuman races that stand in the way that are inferior have to go so
they don't adulterate the blood of this master race and so we can bear children
who are in the image of the Lord.
That's right out of Mein Kampf.
So you see, the two strains that Thomas Aquinas accepted in Roman Catholic law are
really the basis of National Socialism in Germany, that whole movement.
And that even beyond the Argentine government releasing papers showing the
connection between the Vatican and Nazism and what we know about the concordat
between the Pope and Hitler and Mussolini and Franco and the escape routes at the
end over the Alps.
Natural law is the basic philosophical premise of National Socialism.
Now, when the Jesuits say they want to take a nation like America that was once
steeped in the absolutes of Protestant morality, shifting it through relativism
and then bringing it into natural law, that is astounding when you look at
history.
Look at the developments that have happened in the 20th century based on
natural law and these natural inclinations becoming moral imperatives.
You can see that in the philosophy and the thinking and the ideology of National
Socialism, of Nazism.
They wanted to go back to their primitive roots, their primitive drives,
the primitive Teutonic drives, you see, and nothing was to stand in the
way of that.
So, natural law when you understand those two dimensions.
Now, in more recent times, natural law in Catholicism has tended to emphasize the
order of reason aspect of it.
And psychology has tended to emphasize the order of reason, exploring human
experience to see what is the what will develop the human potential to the
ultimate.
And so we have different emphases and different shifts at different periods in
Roman Catholic history but really we see the two of them emerging again in
psychology as well as in the environmental concerns, forming a basis, a platform by
which all peoples, whether regenerate or unregenerate, can find a common bond,
a common linkage for interdependence, globalism, collectivism, everybody coming
together in unity.
What could be more important than saving the world?
Saving our planet.
If there's anything that will unite the world, it's this cry of saving the planet
and the environmentalists are becoming a common denominator among all factions of
people around the world.
We've all got to come together to save our world.
Sounds very righteous.
Sure.
It always comes as an angel of light.
Absolutely.
Here's a couple more points now.
This is page 243.
A moral position based on natural law, then, would be an expression of what the
moral community discovers in its experience to be most contributing to the
full actualization of human potential to attain human wholeness.
Now, do you think that the moral community on earth, the Church, will discover in its
experience something that will most contribute to the full actualization of
human potential to attain human wholeness?
Let me guess.
Sunday sacredness, Sunday worship.
Of course.
What could contribute more to the full wholeness of humanity and the
actualization of human potential?
And besides Mary, the apparition of Mary over at Mujagore has been calling for the
world to keep Sunday.
This is breaking the heart of Jesus, that His Church is not keeping the Lord's
day.
Now, John, I want to briefly turn to John Kirtney Murray, the Jesuit, who wrote this
book, We Hold These Truths, and look at page 301, how he describes natural law.
This is the Jesuit concept of natural law now.
Quote,
And what it can know, and on the other hand, what human society is, and to what
ends it should work.
But, as is obvious, all this is to inquire what man himself is, what this human
nature is of which one predicates a law natural.
In Catholic natural law, one opts for, quote, a metaphysic of right.
I say right advisedly, not rights.
So notice, in natural law, in Catholic natural law, the issue is right rather
than subjective rights.
The natural law does not, in the first instance, furnish a philosophy of human
rights in the sense of subjective immunities and powers to demand.
In other words, the natural law, and he makes a sharp distinction between
Roman Catholic natural law and the law of nature, which our founding fathers were
involved in, the Protestant concepts of the law of nature.
He says they are 180 degrees apart.
The Roman Catholic natural law does not furnish a philosophy of human rights in
the sense of subjective immunities, like the Bill of Rights, you see,
and powers to demand.
This philosophy is consequent on the initial furnishing of a philosophy of
right, justice, law, juridical order, and social order.
So first, Murray says, you've got to have a philosophy of right, of justice,
of law, juridical order, legal order, and social order.
Now, I want to look at a few more concepts here.
The reason is that natural law thinking does not set out, as Locke did,
from the abstract, isolated individual.
In other words, natural law thinking does not start out from the abstract,
isolated individual.
In reality, the concept of the priesthood of all believers, as we've demonstrated in
other freedoms rings, and ask what his inalienable rights are as an individual.
So natural law does not ask about inalienable rights.
Rather, it regards the community as a given equally with the person.
Man is regarded as a member of an order instituted by God.
And as we think back, the long term over Roman Catholicism, there is the divine
right of kings, you know, the feudal order of things, and you just fit as a cog into
that order.
And subject to the laws that make the order an order.
Laws that derive from the nature of man, which is as essentially social as it is
individual.
In the natural law climate of opinion, very different from that set by the
Protestant law of nature, objective law has the primacy over subjective rights.
Now, in the Smith 2 case, where Scalia was trained in the Jesuit University
Georgetown formulated that idea that opinion that was then basically ushered
into the field of law as a result of the decision of the Supreme Court Justices
that if there is a valid law a neutral law of general applicability if you have a
conscientious conviction that runs afoul of that law, you have no choice you have
to obey.
So objective law has the primacy over subjective rights.
Law is not simply the protection of rights, but their source because it is the
foundation of duties.
That's the difference between Catholicism and Protestantism.
So natural law takes our Constitution and turns it upside down.
And it destroys.
And Ellen White says that every Republican and Protestant principle of our
Constitution will be repudiated.
So, going through this just briefly the Jesuit definition of the meaning of
natural law is that it is an issue of right, which would be defined as the
Church according to natural law, rather than rights.
There goes the Bill of Rights, to be replaced by right as defined by the
Church.
The community is a given equal to the individual.
There's that community concept.
And this again leads to the suppression of individual rights in the name of the
community, as in Communism.
3.
Man is viewed as a member of the order, subject to the laws that make the order an
order, derived from the nature of man exhibited in society.
So you just fit into the order, the structure, the hierarchy of the
nation.
4.
Objective law has primacy over subjective rights, as in the Smith 2 case.
5.
Law is the source of rights, therefore rights are subject to the whim of law.
So what Roman Catholic natural law does is take the United States Constitution and
Bill of Rights and turn it upside down and totally negate everything that this
country was founded upon.
Did you notice how Joseph Biden was nervous about this concept of natural law?
Joseph Biden gives me the creeps.
But he was still nervous about Clarence Thomas ideas about natural law.
And he said in the first day of the hearings, he said the real issue that
we're looking at with this nominee to the Supreme Court Clarence Thomas,
is the issue of natural law.
And what does he mean by it?
And he wouldn't really tell.
6.
Human rights in the sense of subjective immunities and powers to demand is
consequent on the initial furnishing of a philosophy of right, justice, law,
juridical order, and social order.
So in the Jesuit concept of natural law, first you erect this concept of what is
right, what is just, and what the law is, and then you have your rights after that.
And that's exactly the way it was in Russia.
Isn't that what's going on in our church, Bob?
That the denomination decides what is right, and then you must subject your
conscience to their conscience, and if your conscience is contrary to
their conscience, then you must subject yourself to their conscience and acquiesce
to their conscience?
Isn't that what is coming right down from the hierarchical system?
It's even been explicitly stated that way to an individual.
Now, Malachi Martin tells us that John Paul has taken a position on this,
that no one has the right democratic or otherwise to a moral wrong, and no
religion based on divine revelation has a moral right to teach such a moral wrong or
abide by it.
So the question is, who decides what is a moral wrong?
And once it is decided that something is a moral wrong, such as perhaps teaching the
fourth commandment about the seventh day salmon, then that body of people have no
right to teach that position.
Bob, I cannot help but think of something that you said to me yesterday.
You said, what we are coming down to is a decision whether we are going to be Roman
Catholic Seventh-day Adventist or Protestant Seventh-day Adventist.
And I believe our people need to know that.
And you see, if we do not exercise Protestantism as a people and we get used
to the conditioning process of fitting into a community decision regarding right
based on another norm than the Word of God and imposing that, such as natural law
does, we are subjecting ourselves to a conditioning process to ultimately receive
the mark of the beast.
This is Catholicism versus Protestantism.
And what we have to ask is, are we going to be Roman Catholic Seventh-day Adventist
or Protestant Seventh-day Adventist?
That's the basic premise here, folks.
And even the basic notion of submission to an order imposed by church and society,
rather than asking first, what is the order of the Word, like Jesus did and John
the Baptist did, conditions the people to ultimately deal with the independent
ministries, you see, and biblical Adventism, not because its doctrines are
erroneous, but because it has violated the order imposed by an ecumenically conscious
structure.
Would you mind saying that one more time slowly, with emphasis?
I'll just read it right here out of Freedom's Ring.
The notion of submission to the order imposed by church and society has become
very strongly entrenched in the rank and file of Adventism.
Most of Adventism now functions upon the philosophical premises of Catholic natural
law.
They are prepared to deal with the independent ministries and historic
biblical Adventism, not because its doctrines are erroneous, but because it
has violated the order imposed by an ecumenically conscious structure.
In its quest for truth, biblical Adventism operates upon the biblical Protestant
philosophical base, which is completely alien to Catholic natural law.
And that's why we have to have the security, John, of a heart, life,
and our very thinking anchored to the living God through absolute surrender to
the Word by faith, so we can get an abundant triumph over the Pope's New World
Order.
As Luther declared in D'Aubigné's History of the Reformation here, Book 6,
Chapter 9, "...my strength and my consolation are in a place where neither
men nor devils can reach them." Amen.
That's the way we've got to be, Bob.
We've got to be so rooted and grounded in why we believe what we believe that we
cannot be swayed from being Protestant Seventh Adventists and slowly being led
into being Roman Catholic Seventh Adventists.
And that's where the majority of our denomination are headed today.
They're becoming Roman Catholic Seventh Adventists.
And it's frightening.
It's happening so quickly, Bob.
I can't believe what is happening among our people.
Now I'd like to talk about family feuds in the Roman Catholic Church, John.
At the very time when Thomas Aquinas was writing these things about the two strains
of natural law, the order of nature and the order of reason, the Knights Templar,
which we just mentioned a little bit ago, were becoming very, very powerful.
They went on the Crusades.
They went over to the lands of the East.
They made contact with the occult over there, which came into their order.
They developed vast land holdings in France and other countries.
They had the major central bank that they operated in France.
And Philip of France got so fearful that he suppressed the order.
He arrested all of them, as we mentioned earlier, except for 13 on a Friday the
13th.
He demanded of the Pope that the order be repressed.
The Pope was very reluctant, but finally he went along with the suppression of the
order and he issued orders for the suppression of the Knights Templar.
Now, in England, in this book, Born in Blood, by John J.
Robinson, in England, these Knights Templar went underground.
They established lodges where they had a safe place.
They established secret signs so that they would know and recognize each other as
fellow Masons.
And they began fomenting revolution.
They wanted to get back in this family feud with the Pope.
They wanted to get back at the Church as well as the State, the two entities that
were persecuting them.
Because they wanted to establish, as Knights Templar, they had wanted to
establish a one-world order.
And so they began fomenting trouble.
The Peasants' Revolt in England, where almost 100,000 men marched on
London, was one evidence of their work shortly after their suppression,
a few decades after their suppression.
They came swarming through.
There was nothing that could stop these men.
They had conspired.
They had laid all their plans.
They had men who had let down the drawbridges across the canals.
They had men in strategic places.
They came and they burned down the buildings of the Knights of Malta,
the Hospitalliers, because the Knights of Malta had been given all their holdings in
France, you see.
And so it was a family feud.
And they developed the Masons.
And the Masons stayed underground for centuries.
In this book here, New World Order by William Still, there is an enormous amount
of information here.
New World Order, the ancient plan of secret societies.
William Still is a former newspaper editor and a publisher.
He has written for USA Today, the Saturday Evening Post, Los Angeles Times Syndicate,
Omni Magazine, and produced the syndicated radio program Health News.
His father developed the communications, the defense communications network for the
military.
And during the height of the Nixon struggle, the struggle between Nixon and
the Supreme Court over the Watergate tapes, a high-ranking military man came to
William's father and said, Do you think the time is right for a coup in America?
And his father couldn't believe it.
And this is during the Nixon administration?
Yes.
And he tells right about in the first few pages here.
And William Still's father retained his cool, his equanimity, and he encouraged a
man to tell him more.
And he was astounded to find that there was being circulated a plot, a plan,
to subvert the authority of the Supreme Court by Nixon ensconcing himself in
power.
This led William Still to do ten years of research.
What was behind it?
As you remember, John, there was a tremendous struggle between the left wing
and the right wing in Nixon's era.
And William Still came to the conclusion that left was being pitted against right
for a takeover by the Masons in the middle.
The Masons, remember, the Knights Templar is the highest degree in the York Rite.
The top three, recapping from Jesuit Agenda 2, the top three degrees of the
York Rite, which is designed for the Christian branch, quote-unquote,
of the Masons, is the Knights of the Red Cross, the Knights of Malta, who William
Casey, the CIA director, was one.
We discussed that last time.
And the Knights Templar.
So here you had a situation, William Still discovered in his research, where Nixon
was planning to ensconce himself in power if necessary and not give up those tapes
and to use the Marines who were around Washington to protect himself and to
ensconce himself in power.
Meanwhile, there were generals, high-ranking generals, who knew what Nixon
was up to and who were determined that if Nixon did that, they would bring in the
82nd Airborne from North Carolina and attack the Marines.
We were on the point of civil war and we didn't know it as a people.
Unbelievable.
And this is the son of the man who developed the communications network for
the military.
Anyway, he traces the whole history of the Masons and I just want to hit some
significant points in here.
You know, Bob, we're going to find out stuff during the Millennium that is just
going to curl our hair.
We have no idea how God has been holding back the winds of strife.
Hold, hold, hold, he tells those angels.
That's right.
He goes into the connection between Karl Marx and the Masons and the
Internationale.
So you see, in the Russian Revolution, we have a new book here by Richard Pipes
for you to read, John.
I'll do that tonight.
It is almost a thousand pages long.
Richard Pipes is the authority on the Russian Revolution.
And in this book, he tells of how the Russian Revolution was not a class
struggle, but it was, let me just read it off the back here.
Richard Pipes argues convincingly that the Russian Revolution was an intellectual
rather than a class uprising, that it was steeped in terror from its very outset,
and that it was not a revolution at all, but a coup d'etat, the capture of
governmental power by a small minority.
Now, we know that Marxism was established in Russia as a result of the Bolshevik
Revolution.
He has a chapter in here on the intelligentsia and discusses the concepts
of communist thinking.
The intelligentsia worked for decades.
From about 1860 on, they were fomenting, fomenting, fomenting in the universities.
The majority of the students in the universities were the sons of priests,
and they were fomenting.
They wanted to bring down the czar, you see.
And you remember in 1917, the Fatima vision took place.
A year and two months later, the czar was murdered.
The Bolshevik Revolution was in full swing.
Here, let me tell you what Trotsky said about the human being whom the new regime
would create.
You see, the idea behind the Russian Revolution was to create a completely new
human being.
It was to be an experiment that would be extended all over the world.
It would create a new human being, not only in Russia, but also in the world.
That's why we have such terms as the International.
It was an international thing, and Freemasonry supported it at every
place.
Now, here's what Trotsky wrote.
Here's the human being that the new regime would create.
Quote, Man will at last begin to harmonize himself in earnest.
Notice, harmonize.
Notice the terms now.
Remember what we studied about natural law.
He will want to master first the semi-conscious, and then also the
unconscious processes of his own organism.
Breathing, the circulation of blood, digestion, reproduction, and within the
necessary limits will subordinate them to the control of reason and will.
Remember the order of reason, the order of nature, the structures of man,
the animal structures.
All of this is going to be all harmonized in this revolution.
Notice that.
Even purely physiological life will become collectively experimental.
Notice the collective aspect and the experimental aspect.
The human species, the sluggish homo sapiens, will once again enter the state
of radical reconstruction and will become in its own hands the object of the most
complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training.
Man will make it his goal to master his own emotions, to elevate his instincts to
the heights of consciousness, to make them transparent, to create a higher
socio-biological type, a superman if you will.
Notice the correlation with the super race concept of Nazism.
Pages.
This is page 137.
Man will become incomparably stronger, wiser, subtler.
His body will become more harmonious.
Now this is Trotsky who engineered the Bolshevik revolution.
His body will become more harmonious, his mind his movements more rhythmic,
his voice more melodious.
The forms of life will acquire a dynamic theatricality.
The average human type will rise to the heights of an Aristotle, go through Marx,
and beyond this ridge other peaks will emerge.
So it was to create... what they wanted to do with the Russian revolution was to
create a new man.
Antichrist.
And it would be based on these concepts of natural law, which we discussed.
You can see them inherent here.
And it would be a social engineering project to create a new man, because it
was believed by the communists that if you change the environment, you change the
person.
Now have you ever heard anything about that in America?
Absolutely.
That has been fundamental to behavioral science.
That the criminal is the because of some hereditary or cultivated problem that he
has, a violation with the law of God.
But it's because his environment hasn't been right.
And if you change the environment and make it a utopian, and the communists,
you know, we're all going to live together, equal wealth.
Wealth won't be something that separates anybody.
We'll create this superman.
We'll marshal all of the environment to create a superhuman being.
I'm going to be accused of being a racist and saying this, but this was the
rationale given in the recent Los Angeles riots, is taking all the blame off the
people and putting it on the environment.
And we are responsible for this.
It's our fault.
Because the environment, if we would just help the environment and pour money,
pour money, pour money, just pour more money into it.
We had a book to read.
Let me tell you this, John.
I had a Marxist professor at the seminary, believe it or not.
I sat in his class day after day, and there are a number of other students,
and they were giving him static all along the way.
He was attacking Protestant concepts, Seventh-day Adventist concepts,
all of this, and elevating this socialism.
And we had to read a book for the class that said, it was written by a radical
from the late 60s, one of the student protest leaders of that era, who had now
become a professor.
And he said, if we gave each of the people in the ghetto $1,000, then that would
really solve the problem.
And the title of the book was, Blaming the Victim.
Well, I was so disturbed about it, that one night I got up about 3 o'clock in
the morning, and I got out my Baker's Dictionary of Christian Ethics,
and I looked up Marxism, and it fit exactly what we had been taught in class.
Marxism, absolutely.
Notice this, 136.
The underlying premise is the idea of Helvetius that by establishing an
environment which makes social behavior a natural instinct, socialism will enable
man to realize his potential to the fullest.
Notice socialism, and full human potential, and Roman Catholic law,
order of reason.
This is how Marx and Lenin both established socialism, was by telling the
people that they would alleviate all of these problems if they would just all
share and share alike.
And Marx wrote a book entitled, The Holy Family.
Have you ever heard that before?
Right out of Roman Catholicism?
That term, anyway.
And he wrote this in 1844, 1845, and here is what he said, The whole
development of man depends on education and environment.
If man draws all his knowledge, sensations, etc.
from the world of the senses, and the experience gained in it, the empirical
world must be arranged so that in it man experiences and gets used to what is
really human.
Remember that in natural law?
You have to study the mind and experience of man to see what is really human.
If man is shaped by his surroundings, his surroundings must be made human.
Alright, this is communism.
This is the philosophy of communism now.
Now, I wanted to take a look here, John, at this book once again.
Karl Marx and the Internationale.
In this book, William still tells about how the Soviet Revolution was financed by
American bankers.
Wait, what?
The Soviet Revolution?
Was financed by American bankers.
American bankers were connected with the Masons.
And you see, they were not worried about what the communists were doing because
they were pulling the strings.
Lenin, after, he quotes in here what Lenin said after he took control.
After Lenin took power, this is page 142 in New World Order.
After Lenin took power, he slowly began to understand that he was not really pulling
all the strings.
Someone else was silently in control of the Soviet nation.
Lenin lamented, quote, the state does not function as we desired.
How does it function?
The car does not obey.
A man is at the wheel and seems to lead it, but the car does not drive in the
desired direction.
It moves as another force wishes.
So Lenin even recognized that there were satanic forces out there.
Beyond him.
Beyond him and the supernatural that he could not control.
This is a heavily documented book.
Now do you think he was referring to supernatural forces or forces out there
such as the Illuminati and the Jesuits?
I don't know that he knew.
He just knew there was something out there that he had no control over.
Let me read you something here, John.
He, like Hitler, had a high regard for the Jesuits.
Page 26 of the book The Jesuits by Malachi Martin.
Lenin swore at the end of his life that he would not if he had had 12 men like one of
those early Jesuits, his communism would have swept the world.
He had a high regard for the Jesuits.
He took a man who had been training to be a Catholic priest, Dzerzhinsky,
who became a communist in the Catholic seminary and was expelled.
He took that man and made him the head of the Chekhov, which is the head,
the precursor of the KGB, the counterintelligence operation.
At any rate, in here, Stalin himself, Stalin now, was enrolled in school to
become a priest at the theological seminary.
And he soon found that the seminary was honeycombed with secret societies.
How do you know Stalin studied to be a priest, a Catholic priest?
Page 143.
Who financed Lenin and Trotsky?
The evidence points to a variety of European and American financiers.
One German responsible for the financing of the Bolshevik Revolution was Max
Warburg, the brother of American Paul Warburg, the prime mover in establishing
the U.S.
Federal Reserve System.
We talked about that in Jesuit Agenda 2.
Max ran a Rothschild-allied family bank in Frankfurt, Germany, and was the head of
the German secret police during World War I.
He goes on to tell about how John Schiff, the old man in America, who sank $20
million for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia.
This man goes on to document how we not only financed the Russian Revolution,
but we gave them the secrets of the atomic bomb.
I've heard that for years, that we gave them the secrets of the atomic bomb.
Look at the evidence in here.
Why?
Why would we want to give them the secrets of the atomic bomb?
We sent them plutonium.
The United States?
Yes.
Russia?
Plutonium?
Yes.
We gave them the secrets and wanted them to build the atomic bomb?
Yes.
Why?
Why would we want them to do that?
Because there was another agency interested in ultimate global domination.
They were interested in this experiment in Russia.
We've got to realize that we're not dealing with just countries here.
We're dealing with a global sinister force that is orchestrating world governments
for a much bigger picture than what we see just from country to country.
So we're talking about forces that are controlling the whole world, not just
individual countries.
Let me read to you out of 166 here.
He's discussing the papers, the report that was sent to Russia.
The text of the report, let's see, clipped to this note to Molotov from Harry
Hopkins, was a large map which bore the legend Oak Ridge, Manhattan Engineering
District, and a carbon copy of a report from Oak Ridge with the name Harry Hopkins
typed on it, as though it was a copy specifically prepared for Hopkins.
The text of the report contained words Major Jordan was unfamiliar with then,
but which we all know today.
Among them were uranium, cyclotron, proton, and deuteron.
Of course, Colonel Kotakov, that's the Russian here in America, was furious with
Major Jordan when Jordan began finding out about these things, you see.
And Jordan assumed he would be fired, but surprisingly he was allowed to stay
on.
Although Jordan reported everything that had transpired to the intelligence section
of the Air Force, he heard nothing in return.
And there was an extra special consignment in April of 1943, notice that's during the
war, of what he called experimental chemicals.
And dropping down here, after his conversation was terminated with the
infamous Harry Hopkins, Jordan asked Colonel Kotakov what the name of this
important chemical was.
Colonel Kotakov went to his desk and pulled from a folder marked bomb powder a
sheet of paper and showed Major Jordan a word he had first seen the previous month
in the black leather suitcase, uranium.
Jordan wrote, this shipment was the one and only cash item to pass through my
hands except for private Russian purchases of clothing and liquor.
It was the only one out of a tremendous multitude of consignments that I was
ordered not to enter on my tally sheets.
It was the only one I was forbidden to discuss with my superiors and the only one
I was directed to keep secret from everybody.
And so he tells in here how it came in 15 wooden cases and the cases were trucked to
the air base at Great Falls, Montana, took off for Fairbanks without a hitch.
And at Fairbanks one box fell from the plane smashing a corner and spilling a
small quantity of chocolate brown powder.
Out of curiosity a soldier there picked up a handful of the unfamiliar grains with a
notion of asking somebody what they were.
A Soviet officer slapped the crystals from his palm and explained nervously,
no, no, burn hands.
Totally three consignments of uranium chemicals, 1465 pounds or nearly three
quarters of a ton were shipped to the Soviet Union.
In addition, one kilogram or 2.2 pounds of uranium metal was shipped at a time when
the total American stock was 4.5 pounds.
We sent them almost half of our stock.
Major Jordan also, and this is all documented material.
Truth is stranger than fiction, I'm convinced of that.
Major Jordan also documented in his meticulous style that even a thousand
grams of precious deuterium oxide or heavy water was sold to the Soviets in November
1943.
And the Jesuits were behind this?
The Masons.
Which was the arm of the Jesuits.
Yes, I want to now pull some things together here.
And the purpose was?
Well, we were financing, we were aiding Russia.
Of course at that time Russia was our ally in war against Germany.
Right.
But the point of all of this that William still is making is that the Masons were
carrying on their plan for a global order in which there would be this social
engineering of creating an environment to create a certain kind of human being.
A new world order.
To create a new world order.
And the Russian Revolution was an experiment to accomplish that.
Now, we discussed about family feuds, John.
You notice now how we've been talking about how the Templars were feuding with
the Papacy.
And something interesting develops in this book here toward the end.
Right after Vatican II.
You hear about that, John?
In 1967, high officials of both Craft and Scottish Rite Masonry actually sat down at
the table with major leaders of the Knights of Columbus to discuss their
common goals of morality, patriotism, and law and order.
So, there was a real coming together right after Vatican II.
Not only in all these other dimensions that we've been talking about,
but between the ancient Knights Templar, who are the Masons now, and the Knights of
Columbus to discuss common goal 332 in the book Born in Blood.
So, what does it all mean?
Now, what happened to our people?
Let me ask you, John.
Here we have, and I must grab here Malachi Martin's book, because Malachi ties a lot
of this together.
Gramsciism.
Who is Gramsci?
Antonio Gramsci was an Italian communist who said that the way Lenin is approaching
the communist revolution will never work, because Christianity has in it a seed of
resistance against it.
We have to destroy and secularize Christianity in order to have the
communist revolution spread over the world, and we must use the intelligence
community to accomplish this through peaceful means.
Through boardrooms, through political parties, through parliaments, through
political parties, through parliament, through We must advance the cause of
international socialism in this way.
Now, what Malachi Martin tells us in page after page here as he discusses Gramsciism
in his book, Keys of This Blood, is that the Roman Catholic Church absorbed
this Gramsciism, and Gorbachev is the ultimate example of Gramsciism in action,
willing to even sacrifice the Russian territorial integrity, the USSR
territorial integrity, for the cause of the principle of what they were about.
And notice the close connection between Gorbachev and the Pope, how they work
together, and in here, in Keys of This Blood, Malachi Martin says that the Roman
Catholic Church took on this Gramsciism, and then became the midwife and wet nurse
for promoting secularism in America, to accomplish this same purpose.
Now, what happened to our believers?
If the Russian experiment is a prototype of what may be coming to some extent
around the world with collectivism, with the outworking of natural law,
in a benign form now, penetrating all over, developing a collectivism with the
Roman Catholic Church having promoted it, and now the Roman Catholic Church having
promoted a secularism to destroy the American Protestantism, and bringing in
concepts of natural law, what does the future hold?
What happened to our believers in Russia?
I want to grab a book here.
Well, I know for a fact that, from what I've heard from eyewitnesses and people
that have come back from Russia since the Iron Curtain has come down, that our true
Seventh-day Adventist Church in Russia has been underground for years.
That what is above ground is the organized church in Russia is a fake.
It's a phony.
It's a counterfeit.
That's not the Seventh-day Adventist Church in Russia.
Well, what happened in Russia is most significant for us.
Here is a book entitled, True Witness, John, the story of Seventh-day Adventists
in the Soviet Union by Marie Sapietz.
Is this written by a Seventh-day Adventist?
Non-Seventh-day Adventist.
She's from Keston College, and Keston College in England has studied the
experience of Christians in the Eastern Bloc nations under Communism.
And she chose to write a book on Seventh-day Adventists.
Seventh-day Adventism.
The true Seventh-day Adventists were enormously influential in pushing for
freedom.
Just to mention something here.
Well, let me give you a little history first, John.
In 1929, that's about a little over a decade after the Bolshevik Revolution,
a law was passed on religious associations in Russia.
And the upshot of that was that the mainline Adventist Church decided to,
as she documents, and here she quotes right from their document, decided to go
along with the Russian military, sending their young men in, not making any
provisos about non-combatancy or anything like that.
They would kill and they would violate the Sabbath and all of that.
And then there was a group of Seventh-day Adventists that said, no, we cannot break
the Fourth or Sixth Commandment.
And they became known as the true and faithful Seventh-day Adventists.
They were the ones then that stood for conscience through thick and thin.
And their leader of them was a man named Vladimir Shchelkov.
And in his memoirs, Andrei Sakharov tells of how he went to the trial of Shchelkov.
Shchelkov was an enormously spiritually powerful man.
And he was an inspiration to Sakharov.
Sakharov worked on developing the bomb, the hydrogen bomb in Russia.
A great physicist.
And he went to the trial of Shchelkov.
It was a religious trial because of Shchelkov's convictions.
He was not allowed to come in.
But that gives us the idea of the international stature that Shchelkov had.
Shchelkov spent decades in prison camps, in concentration camps.
And I have heard it said that the members of the people, inmates in the
concentration camps, would always know when Friday evening came and when sundown
came because they would hear the screams of those Adventists who would refuse to
work and would be put to torture at that time when sundown came Friday evening.
We take the same Seventh-day Adventists for granted.
We take this wonderful truth we have for granted.
I tell you, if some of us were going through what the true and faithful have
gone through for years, we would know what it really means to be Seventh-day
Adventists.
Now, the main line Seventh-day Adventist church, their quote, registered church in
Russia, began sending their kids to school on Sabbath even, whereas the true and free
faithful would not do that, you see.
It was a matter of whether the orientation to God will be supreme or the orientation
to the state will be supreme.
It was all coming down to.
Now, on page 263 of this book, True Witness, we read about some of the
visitors that came to the Soviet Union in the late seventies.
What is so significant to us about what the experience in Russia is, how did the
various Adventist bodies relate to the state and relate to God?
Was God viewed as an inalienable relationship that couldn't be sacrificed
in any way, shape or form?
Or was religious liberty to be fitted in around the law of the state, like what we
discussed with the Jesuit concept of natural law?
I think it's very significant that we find out, because you see up until this time,
as long as the Iron Curtain was up, we had no idea what was really going on in
the Soviet Union with our Adventist people.
But now that we have some freedom to know that they have some freedom to get out and
get the information out, I think it's very significant that our Adventist people here
in America find out what the true and faithful Adventist in Russia went through,
because Bob, I believe we're about the same thing.
We are already in the same situation, and the Church is splitting down the same
lines on the same philosophical, theological issues.
How did they deal with it?
Will the Lord God of Heaven be our ultimate norm, and will we refuse to bow,
or will we bow and have religious liberty after bowing?
You see, here on page 263 of True Witness, the story of Seventh-day Adventists in the
Soviet Union.
Read about what happened in the late 70s and following when General Conference men
began coming into Russia.
Dr. Burt Beech, you remember him?
Oh yes.
Who visited the USSR in June of 1977, repeated uncritically the statements of
Soviet officials concerning the existence of religious liberty.
See, the Soviet officials would say, we've got religious liberty in Russia,
and in their Constitution they provide for religious liberty.
But, they say if the state security is threatened, then, you know, the individual
right has to be suspended in the name of state security.
That same thing has happened, of course, in America, where the rights of Japanese
Americans on the eve of World War II, they were put in concentration camps under
the preamble of the Constitution that is for the common good, for the protection of
the common good.
Anyway, Beech repeated uncritically the statements of Soviet officials concerning
the existence of religious liberty, sometimes reproducing even the original
phraseology.
Although he himself admitted that religious freedom in the USSR was limited
to worship in registered churches and excluded almost any other form of
religious activity, Dr. Beech also asserted that, quote, believers have many
opportunities for the practice of their religion as long as such practice does not
violate Soviet law, end quote.
He then gave a list of such violations which included, quote, playing on
superstition, illegal printing enterprises.
You see, the underground True and Free Adventists got a hold of a printing press
and the KGB could not locate it.
And they printed material and send it all over.
Bless their hearts, amen.
Slandering the Soviet system.
See, the True and Free were accused of that because they went to the Helsinki
watch groups and the meetings in Madrid, the meetings monitoring religious liberty
in Russia, and they sent in reports of how they were being dragged before courts,
how they were having their children taken away from them, how they were being
persecuted by the KGB for standing for their convictions.
And that's exactly what the independent ministries are to do with our Adventist
people.
They are the only ones that are letting our Adventist people know what is really
going on, what the denominational structure is really doing against the True
and Faithful.
And if it wasn't for the Adventists, if it wasn't for the independent
ministries that God has raised up to let our Adventist people know what is really
going on, they would be totally in the dark, thinking that the structure was just
doing wonderful things and having no idea of the sinister underbelly of our
denominational structure.
Yes.
So, see, the Registered Church and the General Conference attacked the True and
Free Faithful for slandering the Soviet system because they told about what was
really going on, and the persecution they were enduring for having illegal printing
enterprises, and, quote, refusing to abide by the rules of Soviet society.
So, see, you can see from that that the Mainline Church, or the Registered Church,
took the position that we have to first fit in with the rules of Soviet society.
If the Soviet society says our children must go to school on Sabbath, we send our
kids to school on Sabbath, and then we have religious liberty after that.
That's right.
Whereas the True and Free Adventists said, we will have the inalienable rights given
us by God, and we will practice our religious liberty according to the Gospel
Commission, regardless of Soviet law.
And what does the organization, and what does the structure say?
That if these dissidents do not go along, they are the ones who are causing us
problems with fitting into the norm here, and they must be exterminated.
He didn't, he, Beach, did not explain that such charges could be used against any
kind of religious activities, and gave no examples of persons who had committed the
crimes, but merely stated that, quote, a serious religious liberty dilemma
could arise if there were a conflict of conscience between the requirements of
belief and the dictates of law, end quote.
Dr. Beach gave no indication that this dilemma already existed, not only among
Adventists, but in all the churches of the Soviet Union.
He went on to make a wholly artificial distinction between Russian and American
concepts of liberty, asserting that Soviet citizens had collective economic and
social rights, but not freedom to oppose the social order or criticize the
established socio-political structures, a right apparently reserved for
Westerners.
Very interesting.
He thus dismissed the whole problem of individual civil rights as somehow
relevant only in Western countries, and seemed to accept the Soviet
government's right to forbid criticism or opposition.
In so doing, Dr. Beach also ignored completely the existence of native Russian
movements for human and religious rights, including that of the true and free
Adventists.
Although Western Adventists have stressed the necessity of acquainting themselves
with Soviet laws before visiting the USSR, they have only occasionally made any
effort in their press articles to explain whether the either the Soviet Constitution
or the laws on religion in a clear and precise manner.
You know, when BB Beach gave that medallion to the Pope in 1972,
and he presented Pope John Paul II with that medallion, there was no video made of
that.
We have no video of that.
I would love to have a video of that.
I just wonder, Bob, if BB Beach kissed the ring of the Pope when he gave him that
medallion.
We don't know that, but at any rate, this shows us that the Church divided.
It split over this issue of will God come first or will we first obey Soviet law and
then practice religious liberty.
The second position is exactly the position of the Jesuit concept of natural
law.
First, you fit into the order of society, the law of society, and then you have your
subjective rights after that.
But the Protestant concept is you have inalienable rights, like in our Bill of
Rights, that must be practiced first before God, regardless of the law of the
state.
We ought to obey God rather than men.
Catholicism versus Protestantism, that's what it boils down to.
Now, John, there's some very interesting things that have just come to my
attention.
In Izvestia, you know what that is?
No, I don't.
The Russian, the great Russian paper, Izvestia.
Oh, Izvestia, okay.
Is that like Tass?
Yes, like Tass and Pravda, Izvestia.
In April 23 of this year, I have... here's the Russian, if you want to follow along
in that, John.
Yes, I'll just follow right along.
There's the Russian.
Now, I'm going to read from this Izvestia that came out April 23 of 1992,
has quotations right out of the KGB archives.
You see, under Glasnost and Perestroika... Those things have been opened up.
The archives have been opened up.
And here, here we read in Izvestia, there's an article entitled, The Eternal
Slave of the Cheka.
Cheka, remember, was the precursor of the KGB.
They still call the KGB officers Chekists in Russia.
Eternal Slave of the Cheka by Polosin in Izvestia, 23 April 1992, page 3.
Quote, Of a number of religious authors, clergy, and technical personnel,
47 agents of the KGB, as a part of the religious delegation of the USSR,
were sent to Vancouver, Canada, for the Sixth General Assembly of the
Worldwide Council of Churches.
So we have here now, from the KGB archives, we know that the Sixth General
Assembly, the seventh was just held over in Australia, the Sixth General Assembly,
a few years ago, had, in the religious delegation from the USSR, 47 KGB agents.
All right, just keep that tucked under your head as we read along here.
From the reports of the Fourth Department of the Fifth Directorate of the KGB of the
USSR, that's where these are coming from now, in June of 1986, quote, work on the
preparation and advancement of a meeting of the sectarian church, Belokrinitsky,
at which will occur the selection of the head of this church.
All right, you get the picture.
Here is a sectarian church.
They're going to be selecting the head of the church.
It's June 1986.
In connection with this, in 20 organs of the KGB, the UKGB conducted an orientation
with the request for the support by all current means of the candidate preferred
by us.
So what are they doing?
They're manipulating the election of the head of this religious sect in Russia
using an enormous effort on the part of the KGB.
20 organs of the KGB.
Sounds like the general conference session.
This is a KGB working in Russia in 1986, October 1986, quote, conjointly with the
PGU of the KGB of the USSR, action was taken for the discrediting of the ring
leader of the T.N.
Karlovatsky church, Archbishop Vitalin.
All right, here's a man they didn't like.
So the KGB discredited him.
Have you ever heard about people being discredited, John?
Seems to me I have heard about that.
November 1986.
Now pay close attention to this one, John, because it deals with our church.
Through the leading agency of a number of preachers, and let me give you,
I got a direct translation on this over the telephone from a Russian speaker,
a native Russian who knows languages.
She gave me a very careful translation of this, a rather literal one, and I'll read
it now here.
Through the leading agency from among the ministers of S.D.A., that would be Seventh
Day Adventists, in Tula there was a re-election of the senior minister,
and she said it means the senior minister, the head of the church in the central
region, that's of the USSR.
As a result, to this position again was promoted agent Svetlov.
Now agent Svetlov is a code name for a KGB agent who was re-elected to the position
of being head of the Seventh Day Adventist Church in the central region of the USSR
in November of 1986.
The head of the Seventh Day Adventist Church in Russia was a KGB agent?
Of the central region of the Seventh Day Adventist Registered Church in the USSR,
the head of it of the central region was re-elected in 1986, and as a result to
this position again was promoted agent Svetlov.
Now who is agent Svetlov?
How would you find out from circumstantial evidence who this man was?
Well, we went to the Adventist yearbook to find out who the head of the central
region of the USSR was both before and after this election.
And Terry, look this up for me in the yearbook.
1985, do you know who the head of the central region of the USSR was?
Kulikov.
In 1988, the next yearbook that we had, after that, Kulikov was still the
president of the central region.
Are you saying that Kulikov was a KGB agent?
What I'm saying, John, is that the KGB archives say that in November 1986,
the head of the central region was re-elected, and he was a KGB agent
codenamed agent Svetlov.
And according to the circumstantial evidence that we have from the yearbook,
Kulikov was head of that region in 1985 and in 1988, both before and after the
election.
And according to verbal testimony from Seventh-day Adventists in Russia,
it was Kulikov who was re-elected in November of 1986 to be the head of the
central region of Seventh-day Adventists.
So you're saying that the above-ground church in Russia, before the fall of the
Soviet Union, here just recently, was nothing but a front for the KGB?
They were KGB agents that were the above-ground Seventh-day Adventist church
in Russia?
It wasn't just the Seventh-day Adventist church, John.
Look at this article here.
The leader of the Russian Orthodox Church is called KGB spy.
But Kulikov is the one that Neil Wilson, as General Conference President,
was such big, big buddies with.
And remember when they came over here to the United States and took the tour of the
media center and how they were beating the drum in the Adventist Review and
everything about all the wonderful things going on over in Russia?
Oh, they just had a field day with that.
And they, you know, in Liberty Magazine, all the pictures of our religious liberty
leaders and all working on the closest level with the Council on Religious
Affairs in Russia, which had been persecuting the true and free Adventists.
That were underground.
That we didn't hear anything about.
And, you know, John, we don't know in this world all of the implications of what is
going on.
But a KGB agent would know how to discredit, wouldn't he?
I believe so.
He would know how to work with the KGB.
That's what he was a mastermind.
That's what he was trained in.
And you have the documentation there to show that these, now that the KGB files
have been opened up since the demise of the Soviet Union, and we have the
documentation coming out of the closet, that these guys were KGB agents.
I've checked it with two Russian speakers, one of whom was in the field of
intelligence in our military, who was a Russian translator for years, as well as
this native-speaking Russian.
Well, now that the Soviet Union is no longer, what's happened to the KGB?
It's still in place.
Don't you remember what we just read about the, what Malachi Martin said,
that this whole apparatus of 20 million executioners, spymasters, KGB agents and
all of that, it is still in place, like a chameleon waiting to spring into
action again.
You know who was, who was foremost in formulating this great bond with these KGB
agents that we're just now finding?
It was Neil Wilson.
And you know who's still working behind the scenes, and is Bob Falkenberg's
right-hand man, and many believe is still running the show, is Neil Wilson.
He's in charge of Russian affairs.
Isn't that amazing?
Neil Wilson is in charge of Russian affairs, and he's the one that organized
all of these guys, and finding out, we're finding out now that they were
nothing but KGB agents, and what, is it possible, Bob, is it possible that
Neil Wilson is now using these KGB agents here in America, has brought them over to
America, and is using them here?
We don't know.
You see, there's so much that we don't know, John, but what we do know,
we need to be aware of the potential for.
I put nothing past these guys.
Here, the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church is called KGB spy, and his codename
was Drozdov, and almost all of the ministry in the Russian Orthodox Church
were either KGB spies, or collaborators, or informers.
Listen, let me tell our viewers something.
This is, this, you know, each one of these videos, we come out with some amazing,
you, you just blow us away, Bob, with some of the documentation that you
come out with.
This sounds pretty far-fetched, but listen, folks, if you think that this
is far, far-fetched, get this material.
It's going to be in the documentation packet.
You get Russian translators of your own.
If you know somebody that speaks fluent Russian, a Russian native, you know,
interpret these things.
Look at some of these files that we have brought, that Bob has brought out of the
KGB unpublished stuff that's now being published, secret files of the KGB with
the demise of the USSR.
Come to your own conclusions, folks.
We're not making this stuff up.
Let me read about the experience of the Russian Orthodox Church.
Unbelievable.
You know, personally, we can't, we can't level charges, but we know what
the KGB does and the tactics that they use.
In fact, John, I've got a book here entitled KGB.
Now that the USSR has crumbled, there's much more freedom for Russians to
come to America.
I cannot help but believe, Bob, that, that some of these KGB agents that
are no longer needed so much in the Soviet Union, in Russia, can be brought over here
to America because they are skilled.
Those men are skilled in espionage.
They are skilled.
And if you were Neil Wilson and Bob Falkenberg, who would you use these
imported KGB agents that are skilled and trained in espionage and
counterintelligence?
How would you use them?
Who would you use them against?
Well, we just read, read the archives.
What did the KGB do?
They discredited the ones they wanted to discredit.
They elevated the ones they wanted to.
They controlled elections.
They manipulated the church, you see.
And when you put this together, John, with the use by Grantskyism,
the concept of Grantskyism, with the use of the KGB apparatus to extend concepts
over the Western world, it's happened, it's flowed right through the Roman
Catholic Church now for decades.
Is there a possibility?
A possibility is always there and we have to be careful, you know, when we,
about leveling charges, but we have to be open to the possibility that this thing
could be far more all-pervasive than we know.
There's so much that we don't know.
I'm going to tell you something here, brother.
You realize that within the last 30 days, the headquarters of Prophecy Countdown
have been broken into four times.
They have bypassed security locks.
They have bypassed electronic security devices.
They have entered into our computers by something that we've had computer people
into.
They say they had something called a boot disk that they could bypass all computer
words, all bypass words, all code words, and were able to get into the internal
disk of our computers.
They were, they did not have master keys.
We thought it was an inside job at first, but we've come, but with the detectives
from the Lake County Sheriff's Department, they said that it is not, they are
dealing, we are dealing with professional thieves, professional criminals that they
have not seen the likes of in this county.
They said these are out-of-town people.
These are trained professional thieves.
They were able to pick the locks, and we have good locks, Schlag locks and
deadbolts.
They were able to pick the locks, come into the Brink security system that
we have installed in this place, using alligator clips, bypassing the
electronic security devices, motion detectors that we have here, able to get
into our computers using boot disk, and on four different occasions,
before we found out that this, that we were being, that our security was
being compromised like this, and we now have proof that they were in on four
different occasions, and they went in for one reason, and one reason only.
Nothing was taken.
We have not missed anything.
Nothing has been taken.
They took no money.
They took no checks.
They took no equipment.
They were coming for one reason, and one reason alone, and they found the
computer, and they went into it four times, and that is the computer from our
accounting department that states how much money comes into this ministry.
This is exactly what the KGB knows how to do expertly.
Now Bob, this is what has happened in the last four weeks in this ministry.
We have been terrorized by some, by professional criminals.
You can ask the Sheriff's Department, the detectives of the Sheriff's Department
of Lake County, that we are dealing with professional out-of-town thieves that are
able to bypass all security systems and all locks that they have not encountered
before in this county.
These are out-of-town professionals.
Now Bob, I want to tell you something.
Do you believe that the Baptist Church is interested in how much money comes into
Prophecy Countdown?
No.
Do you think that the Catholic Church is interested in how much money comes into
Prophecy Countdown?
They said it was a deep pocket organization that had the money and the
resources to hire the best of the best professional thieves to come in and to go
into our computer system, wanting and risk all of this to find out one thing and one
thing only, and that was how much money was coming into Prophecy Countdown.
Now Bob, we are dealing, we are dealing with satanic, satanic forces.
And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who it was that hired
professional thieves to break into this ministry and compromise our computer
system.
We have increased the security around this ministry.
And I want to tell you folks, it's frightening what we're dealing with here.
And I just think it's important that you know the satanic, diabolical people that
we are dealing with.
And you know, our people have their head in the sand thinking that we're dealing
with a very pious, holy, sanctimonious leadership.
But I want to tell you, it doesn't take a genius to figure out who it was that was
responsible for breaking into our ministry and accessing our computers to find out
how much money we take in.
And now that you are explaining this about how the KGB agents were the, were the
visible Seventh-day Adventist Church in Russia, and now that they are available
for work here in America and the 47 that you mentioned came to America,
these 47 churches... Vancouver, British Columbia.
Over to North America.
And with the cozy relationship that Neil Wilson, our denomination, has had with
these KGB agents, it doesn't take you long to figure out a very believable scenario.
That's right.
It certainly is a believable scenario, John.
And this stuff is absolutely diabolical.
In fact, in his book, Andrei Sakharov, he describes an incident that took place
in, in his life.
He had to go down to the telephone and he went with his wife.
Usually they had someone staying in their apartment because he had had his memoirs
stolen again and again.
And what happened was he, he left his apartment empty for an hour or so,
something we normally tried to avoid.
This is page 486.
When we knew we'd be, we'd all be out at the same time, we'd usually take the most
important papers with us.
But that day we neglected to do so.
Notice they were gone for one hour.
Lucia and I went out to a bookstore around one o'clock, soon after Ruth and Lisa,
who was living with us, left for the International Telephone Office.
It was impossible to call Alexei or Tanya or Ephraim from our apartment.
The KGB agent who monitored our line would immediately terminate the conversation.
Not being able to talk is worse than being bugged.
See, they would terminate conversations right in the middle.
After all, unpleasant as bugging is, we still had nothing to hide.
Ruth and Lisa had managed to place several calls to Alexei from the telephone office,
but this time they were cut off.
We all returned to the apartment about the same time.
A few minutes later, Lisa called out from the bathroom, where's my robe?
I can't find it.
We discovered a strange assortment of things missing, old clothing, including
the pants they like to wear around the house, a favorite blue jacket which Klava
had bought for me, and my eyeglasses, while more valuable possessions in plain
sight had not been taken.
When Lydia Chukovskaya came by the next day for a visit and asked to take a look
at something I'd written, I discovered that my document box had been rifled.
The letter to Brezhnev had disappeared, as had the manuscript representing five
months work on these memoirs.
This was the first of many thefts or confiscations, call them what you will,
of this Sisyphean labor of mine.
And then, he says, dropping down here, it was obvious the KGB had gone through
the apartment, despite the theft of the clothing.
We had locked the apartment door when we left, and it was locked when we returned,
but keys are no problem for the KGB specialists.
Four years later, Lucia and I would undergo an official search aboard the
Gorky Moscow train, but back then, the KGB still preferred to use covert,
unofficial methods.
So they were gone for one hour.
In that one hour, they penetrated through the locks, just got what they want,
and went out.
Bob?
After this happened, when we became aware that this had happened, that we'd been
broken into, we contacted a company in Orlando that specializes in surveillance
and bugging equipment, and see if your place has been bugged.
And the gentleman came up here on an initial call with some equipment,
and went through our building, and he had this, it's a little,
I can't explain, it's a kind of a detector-type thing that senses electronic
listening devices.
I want to tell you folks, we are not paranoid.
I do not suffer from paranoia, and I've taken great pride in my life that
I am not paranoid and suffer from paranoia.
But if you knew what we were dealing with, this is not paranoia, believe me.
This is a very stark reality.
And they went through our offices, and when he would come over my phone,
he goes, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, and he'd say, there's an electronic
listening device on that phone.
He went into Diane's phone, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, he said the same
thing with his phone.
Went through all the different ones, it was on my phone, Diane's phone,
Terry Ross' phone, and our board chairman's phone, Kathleen Greenfield's
phone.
And He says, this isn't just the phone.
He says, the line is bugged.
He says, this characteristic of this is like the line is bugged.
He says, we've got to bring some more sophisticated equipment tomorrow.
And he says, and find out exactly where this thing is.
They brought some very sophisticated equipment in the next day and went by my
phone.
Nothing.
Diane's phone, nothing.
Terry's phone, Kathleen's phone, all the phones, not a thing had been
removed.
That night.
Unbelievable.
John, there's a person, we're holding camp meeting here right now.
There's a man here who came in from overseas and he came to the immigration
office at Boston.
He was telling us about this.
They asked him where his contact point was in America.
And he mentioned Prophecy Countdown.
And immediately he said, the man's attitude changed.
And he began going through all of his papers in his briefcase.
And he felt that it was very suspicious.
Well, John, that's simply amazing.
We're in amazing times.
You know, in intelligence services, sometimes intelligence services...
And yet you and I are just doing this for the money, Bob.
You know, John Osborne and Bob Trebs, they're just doing it for the money.
Yeah, we're just doing this for the money, you know.
And, you know, putting, sacrificing life and limb and family in the pursuit of
happiness.
And we're just doing this for the money.
I mean, somebody would have to have rocks in their head to think that you and I
would lay our lives on the line to do what we are doing.
John, that's right.
The intelligence services like to work together.
And we know that the CIA has been working with the Vatican for a long time.
In fact, at the end of World War II, the OSS that preceded the CIA worked with
the Vatican and the Nazis themselves to help Nazi war criminals escape.
Now, tell me this, John.
Why did the OSS work with the Nazis, as well as the Vatican, to help the Nazi
war criminals escape?
And when the CIA was established, it was flooded with Catholic applicants
who took the significant jobs.
And, John, I have here the biography of William Casey, who was the head of our
CIA.
He was trained by the Jesuits.
It's right here in the early chapter, is in the hands of the Jesuits.
It even tells about a weekend that they had a symposium on natural law at the
university, Fordham.
And the CIA has worked with the Vatican in recent years on the closest terms,
along with the AFL-CIO, to bring down communism in Poland, working for the
Solidarity Labor Union cause.
And so, these intelligence agencies like to work together.
And we'll probably never know until eternity what all the dimensions of this
thing are.
But this thing we know, John, we know that the New World Order is going to take
place.
That there's going to be a universal bond of union.
That the Pope will have its day once again.
And that all those who do not receive the mark of the beast in their right hand or
in their foreheads are going to have a death decree against them.
Let me just read here, Revelation 13, verse 15.
And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the
beast should both speak and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the
beast should be killed.
Either submit to the image of the beast, the image of the papal hierarchy
established in America and imposed around the world.
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a
mark in their right hand or in their foreheads.
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of
the beast, or the number of his name.
Here is wisdom.
Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number
of a man, and his number is six hundred, threescore, and six.
So we have been called, John, to such a... all of us, faithful, Bible-believing,
Seventh-day Adventists, and the whole earth has been called by God to take their
stand on the three angels' messages and to give the last warning message,
the call to come out of Babylon, to take one's stand on the three angels'
messages, on the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and to be faithful
unto death, and we will receive a crown of life.
Amen.
Bob, thank you so much for another wonderful interview.
And it just comes down to the bottom line, once again, that each and every one of us
have to decide.
Are we going to be Roman Catholic Seventh-day Adventists, or are we going to
be Protestant Seventh-day Adventists?
Amen.
Well, we've just been editing Jesuit Agenda 3.
We're at the end, and Bob Trebs has called and said we can't finish this tape without
an update.
And he's ready to bring us up to date of what's going on.
Bob, tell us what the latest is that's going on since we taped Jesuit Agenda 3
together.
We're about ready to wrap up the editing here and duplicate this tape and get it
out to our Adventist people, but we just wanted to find out what the latest thing
going on with the Church is.
Hi, John.
Good to hear your voice again.
Thanks, Bob.
Well, there's a lot of things that have happened over the course of the summer.
Now we're one day before the elections.
Yes.
And we discussed that, as I recall.
But first of all, I'd like to just mention something that has really impressed itself
on my mind, and that is that we have to implement in our own lives the principles
of the Gospel, the principles of the Reformation, the principles of Adventism,
the principles of Gospel liberty.
The Gospel itself is a great message of liberty, of freedom from sin, and of
liberty in the Holy Spirit.
And we are warned in Galatians 5-1 not to let that liberty slip away from us.
Absolutely.
And so we are going into these last day events with a great need to have a
personal experience of justification with the Lord, and sanctification and harmony
with the perfect law of liberty, the Ten Commandments.
And this is so critical because one of the fundamental issues that we are looking at
in Jesuit Agenda 3 is the issue of what is going to hold the primacy in the human
experience.
Will it be personal salvation and liberty in the Gospel, which Martin Luther
discovered in the 16th century as he sought for personal salvation.
He discovered liberty, and that liberty he brought to the peoples of Northern Europe
as they accepted the Gospel.
On the other hand, the principle that Satan is continually trying to advocate,
which we have looked at and we want to look at a little bit more right now,
is the principle that the community takes the primacy over the individual.
Bob, as I have been editing this Jesuit Agenda 3, this is the thing that just
keeps coming up over and over and over again through our whole interview,
was how that the community takes precedence over individual rights.
And we've never heard that before as Americans.
Well, this, John, is hitting us now from every angle.
And I want to, in this telephone conversation, hit some of the things that
have emerged over the summer on this score.
Some very, very shocking things from the North American Division officers,
as well as in the course of the election campaign.
And so maybe we can look at a few things now.
It's been so long since the beginning of the summer, I'm not sure how much we
treated on certain subjects.
But I remember at a camp meeting a couple of years ago, I read the following quote
here.
It is thus necessary that the individual should finally come to realize that his
own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation.
That the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the
nation as a whole.
That above all, the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than
the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual.
This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation
of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture.
The basic attitude from which such activity arises, we call, to distinguish
it from egoism and selfishness, idealism.
By this we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices
for the community, for his fellow men.
And then I asked the congregation who they thought had said that.
And some thought President Bush, and various ones thought other great
individuals.
And then I told them that it was Adolf Hitler.
And they were shocked.
But you see, this is the fundamental premise of collectivism, which lay at the
bottom of the Nazi totalitarianism.
And I'm reading from The Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff, page 17 here.
Collectivism is the theory that the group, that is the collective, has primacy over
the individual.
Now, we've had a number of experiments in the 20th century which have experimented
with this idea.
Nazism, for one, which presented this very premise, and the nation bought it to a
large extent, although not all.
And then we have the experiment under communism.
And just think of that word communism.
It asserts the primacy of the commune, or the community, over the individual once
again.
And that was a vast social experiment, as we explored in Jesuit Agenda 3,
there with you, of social engineering.
To see what could be done with the human being through education and control of the
environment to create a new human being through these principles.
And then we looked at the environment and the environmental concerns of the papacy
and the Pope with his encyclical on social concern in 1987.
And we saw that this idea of the community asserting its control and rights over the
individual, once again, was a primary focus of the papacy.
And so, some of the things that have emerged over the summer are the following,
John.
The book, Earth in the Balance, by Al Gore, is a book that was sold so
fast in the bookstores it was hard to get one at times this summer.
And in this book, we have an amazing manifesto laid out by Al Gore that
virtually is identical to the papal encyclical that we looked at in the early
part of this video.
The thing that's so frightening is to realize, tomorrow, he will most likely,
according to all polls, become the next Vice President of the United States.
Right.
Now, I'd like to just read to you just a couple things, a few things here from his
book for documentation.
On page 278, he uses this environmental issue to push the idea of community.
He says, This notion is itself an ecological question in the sense that it
involves a balance between rights and responsibilities.
In fact, what many feel is a deep philosophical crisis in the West has
occurred in part because this balance has been disrupted.
We have tilted so far toward individual rights and so far away from any sense of
obligation that it is now difficult to muster an adequate defense of any rights
vested in the community at large or in the nation, much less rights properly invested
in all humankind or in posterity.
And he goes on to tell us that we need to begin reasserting the rights of the
community or the nation or the world as a whole.
And this is a distinct tilt that we're seeing.
Also, on page 279, he discusses the North-South issues that the Pope discussed
in his encyclical.
He discusses the Pope himself here and Teilhard de Chardin, the Jesuit who is the
most influential figure in the New Age movement, on pages 262 and 263.
On page 204, he says we must aspire to a Catholic understanding of the nature of
civilization.
He calls for a global Marshall Plan on page 344, a global summit 346,
a new generation of international treaties on 352.
And then he has some very amazing things, and I think this is very fundamental to
this whole environmental issue.
He says that the rescue of the environment must be made the central organizing
principle for civilization on pages 269 and 273.
And so what we're seeing is an attempt to find a cause, such as the environment,
which the entire world community can rally around, which will erase the international
boundaries and will make the earth into a single unifying factor that will all
function together and find a common cause, a common ground.
That is happening right before our eyes, Bob, and it's just amazing what a
masterpiece of deception this is that Satan has been able to pull off.
I mean, what could be more universal?
What could bring more camaraderie of all nations, all religions, than this to save
the world?
This plays right into the scenario that I have always preached of the Mark of the
Beast, how it would be brought about.
We are being set up for the Mark of the Beast.
The world is being prepared to receive the Mark of the Beast.
I mean, this is a fulfillment of prophecy right before our eyes, and it's this
environmental issue.
I mean, what a masterpiece of deception.
And, John, in Insight on the News, there is a leading article that occurred
in the November 2, 1992 issue, The Gospel According to Al Gore,
in which they analyze his book.
And they describe how Al Gore has a tremendous blend here of a dabbling in the
Bible and some biblical notions, and also the Eastern religions.
The pagan mother-goddess thing is a big thing that he laments that we've drifted
away from in society.
And he tries to make a theology out of the environment, which is a very, very
interesting thing that is developing, and which we have been warned about by
Alvin Toffler in his book Power Shift.
He goes into the Native American pantheistic religions.
He goes into Baha'i.
He goes into the Gaia theory and hypothesis that the earth is a living
organism.
This article points out how the World Council of Churches is involved in this
type of call for the integrity of creation.
And the article quotes also from Jim Conlon, the director of the Institute in
Culture and Creation Spirituality at Holy Names College in Oakland, California,
the same place that the Dominican scholar Matthew Fox, who wrote The Coming of the
Cosmic Christ, is from, the same institution.
He finds the Gaia hypothesis useful for the recovery of a lost sense of the
soulfulness of all nature.
This is pantheism.
And at one point, Al Gore asks the question in his book, why does it feel
faintly heretical to a Christian to suppose that God is in us as human beings?
And, of course, he's talking about the pantheistic concept of God.
Al Gore believes this.
Most likely tomorrow to be voted in as the Vice President of the United States.
One heartbeat away from the presidency.
I want to tell you something, Bob.
How could you, how could anybody be against this?
This looks so holy and so good and so pious and to save the world and to save
our planet.
I mean, if you were against this, you would have to be the most heinous
monster that ever lived to be against saving the environment.
Yes.
Well, that's why Satan has sought to find a cause that it becomes very difficult to
oppose and to link it with his machinery for the suppression of liberty at the end.
So, anybody that would be against this, humanly speaking, would need to be
exterminated.
I mean, anybody that would be against saving the environment and saving our
planet, well, we just need to get rid of them.
I mean, we just need to exterminate them.
I mean, you can see how that logic and rationale sounds so plausible.
And they get very, very frantic about the whole thing, too.
Yes.
And, John, I would like to draw our attention here to Alvin Toffler's Power
Shift book where he discusses this whole notion of eco-theocracy, he calls it,
that is, environmental theology or eco-theocracy.
This was a very big thing with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement.
I'd like to just bring a few things from his book, page 377 and following.
He says,
Already there's talk of an environmental police force that will have international
jurisdiction and enforce environmental concerns in the various nations.
We've been seeing this kind of thing happening in Europe with the EC imposing
its will within national boundaries on various concerns.
And he discusses about those who want to, in this movement, plunge society into
pre-technological medievalism and asceticism, the eco-theologues and the
religious extremists.
He tells about how these people like to sometimes go back to quote German mystics
like Meister Eckhart, the founder of German mysticism in the 13th century.
See, this is all wrapped up with mysticism, which we've talked about also,
John.
In fact, a book came into me this summer about Teilhard de Chardin and his effort
to promote a new mysticism combining Western mysticism and Eastern mysticism.
And so these people are interested in going back to a situation where there must
be sharp restrictions on individual choice, page 379, that may be required to
make people moral or to protect the environment.
And he says this points ultimately to a common attack on human rights.
So he sees this, and here he's not an Adventist.
Indeed, many environmentalists themselves worry openly about the arrival of green
ayatollahs or eco-fascists who impose their particular brand of salvation.
And he says the deeper the crisis, the darker the charismatic figure who will
emerge.
Whether or not we will have a green Adolf depends on how far cultural change
advances before the next Chernobyl.
Then, dropping down on that page, he says, if we reject... he quotes a
French sociologist, Alain Terrain, who says, If we reject reason in the name
of salvation from ozone depletion, we will court a green fundamentalism and
eco-theocracy of the Ayatollah Khomeini variety.
If such anxiety sounds too extreme, it may be worth recalling the Wandervogel
youth movement of the 1920s in Germany.
Now, we discussed that in this episode, where the green movement today is most
militant.
The Wandervogel were the hippie greens of the Weimar Republic, roaming the
countryside with their rucksacks, carrying guitars, wearing flowers,
holding woodstock-like festivals, high on spirituality and preaching a
return to nature.
A decade later, Hitler was in control.
Hitler also exalted pre-industrial values, picturing the Nazi utopia as one in which
the blacksmith stands again at his anvil, the farmer walks behind his plow.
In the words of Professor J.P.
Stern of University College London, Hitler evoked a pre-industrial rustic
idol.
Hitler's ideologists constantly praised the organic, urged physical fitness,
and used biological analogies to justify the violence they faced.
Hundreds of thousands of youngsters passed through the youth movement, writes George
L.
Mosse in The Crisis of German Ideology, and many of them found it not very
difficult to accommodate themselves to the ideological propositions of the Nazis.
Can one really imagine a neo-green party with armbands, Sam Brown belts,
and jackboots setting out to enforce its own view of nature on the rest of society,
Toffler asks?
Of course not, under normal conditions.
But what if conditions are not normal?
Consider the consequences of another Bhopal-like eco-catastrophe set in,
say, Seattle, Stuttgart, or Sheffield, followed by back-to-back crises
everywhere.
We know that's going to happen, John.
Followed by confusion and monstrous corruption in the disaster relief effort
amid fundamentalist cries that the disaster was inflicted by God as
punishment for permissiveness and immorality.
We know from great controversy that's going to be the very cry.
Picture all this occurring in a time of deep economic distress.
Imagine an attractive, articulate eco-Adolf who promises not just to solve
the immediate crisis, but to purify the society materially, morally, and
politically, if only he is given extra-constitutional powers.
Al Gore tells us in his book that civilization must heal itself
psychologically and spiritually before we can heal our ailing environment.
If these concepts take hold, it will be a direct fulfillment of what Ellen White
foretold would bring in the Sunday Law crisis at the end of time.
She tells us in great controversy that because the people have rejected the law
of God, and notably the Sabbath, God's protecting care will be withdrawn
from them, and they will be left to the machinations of Satan, who will bring all
kinds of ecological catastrophe.
And as a result of that, the people will say, we need to get back to God.
Someone is causing this problem.
Oh, we've got to find out who's causing this problem and get rid of them.
That's right.
And in order to save the community, save the community of the earth,
you see, these people will have to be sacrificed.
Oh, Bob, that's so clear how this is shaping up.
That's right.
It's exciting, though.
I've got to admit, it's exciting to see prophecy being fulfilled like we have said
for years it was going to.
Well, it's very exciting, John.
But one of the most shocking things of all now is that in the October 1st,
1992 Adventist Review, there was a position paper put out by the North
American Division officers entitled, The Church of God, Its Nature,
Function, and Authority.
Yes.
This paper is absolutely shocking because it marks a decisive paradigm shift from
what Adventism has taught in the past.
Regarding salvation in the church.
And you know what, Bob?
Our people didn't see it.
I bet you one in a hundred people, Seventh-day Adventists who read that
article, that position paper, on the church in the recent Adventist Review,
did not even pick up what it was.
That is a Catholic document.
All through it, John, there is the emphasis on the community of faith.
The community.
Solidarity.
Good Roman Catholic terms.
And community, for the Roman Catholic, the meaning of this is pointed out in Carl
Rayner and Heinrich Frey's book on the unity of the churches, where they state
that this community of faith is necessary for all of the churches to come together,
and that it means that the community has the primacy over the individual.
And so, community now is the big term instead of personal salvation,
which Martin Luther and the other Reformers emphasized.
That's what the Protestant Reformation was all about.
And so, we've basically abandoned the fundamental Protestant principle of
personal salvation and the primacy of a conscience bound directly by the Word of
God to the Lord Himself.
Instead of that, now we are accepting the Roman Catholic terminology and concepts of
the community being foremost and having the primacy over the individual.
Now, some very shocking things emerge in this document.
For instance, we read that the local church is fully equipped by the Spirit and
recognized as being capable of acting on behalf of the risen Lord.
Well, that's the whole idea of the Pope being the vicar of Christ.
He acts on behalf of God.
And the next sentence says, the local church becomes the port of entry to the
kingdom of God.
Well, the Bible certainly doesn't teach that.
Amen.
That's right out of Catholicism.
Jesus, that's right.
Oh, that just makes my skin crawl, Bob.
Jesus said that the straight gate of entry to the kingdom of God is the gate of
self-surrender in the Sermon on the Mount.
And Ellen White has a tremendous commentary on that in Thoughts from the
Mount of Blessings about how we have to leave behind all self and all sin to enter
this true gate to the kingdom of God.
And so, in this area, we see the Roman Catholic concept of the church being the
port of entry to the kingdom of God.
Now, if a person is put back out of that port of entry by the local church...
Then you've lost the kingdom.
They're outside the kingdom.
You're going to hell.
Now, the next couple paragraphs are even more shocking as we go along.
Because we read in the New Testament, local churches exercise the highest
ecclesiastical functions.
The first point mentioned is control of the members.
Well, is this the most important function of the local church?
Control of the members?
Ellen White is very clear that we are called in the church to service and not
control.
And that the church is to be controlled not by man, but by God.
And so, once again, we find a position of direct defiance of the word of the Lord.
There are some other very interesting terms in here, John.
For instance, we see that the basic identifier that is used for Seventh-day
Adventism being a biblical church are right out of the Nicene-Constantinople
Creed.
And I'm reading now from the document, the four classical marks of the biblical
church apply to Seventh-day Adventism.
It's holiness in Jesus Christ, it's catholicity, universality,
it's apostolicity in harmony with the witness of the apostle founders,
it's unity, one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
Now, that formula of the church being holy, catholic, apostolic, and one is the
fundamental determiner of the ecumenical movement.
The ecumenical movement harks back to the Nicene-Constantinople Creed of 381,
the longer form of that, to be the fundamental foundation stone for the
ecumenical movement.
And we are coming out in the next Freedom's Ring with an analysis of this
paper, and we go into an analysis of this Nicene-Constantinople formula that appears
here.
It's interesting that Dr. Hans Kuhn, who is one of the most noted dissident
Roman Catholic theologians, very renowned and distinguished scholar, in his book,
The Church, has a chapter on each of these aspects of the church, that it is
catholic, holy, apostolic, and one.
And in this chapter on its catholicity, on it being catholic, he notes that the
term catholic is never applied to the church in the New Testament.
And then he goes into the historical ramifications of this, and how the early
church fathers began applying the term catholic, meaning universal, such as the
intent, supposedly, of this paper, but how this developed rapidly into a
polemical usage of the term catholic to try to distinguish one element of the
church over against the heretics, and how finally it became codified in law,
and everyone was required under the emperor Theodosius, who followed
Constantine, to be catholic or be under penalty of law as a heretic or a pagan,
and then how the Holy Roman Empire carried on in their canon law.
Bob, we've got about three minutes left on this tape.
Okay, and so this led ultimately, just the use of this term catholic,
and its eventual codification in law and the meanings that it came to develop
around it, resulted in the death of millions of people.
And so we also find the concept of collegiality in this document,
which is right out of Vatican II by Roman Catholic Confession itself, and
fraternity, a lot of Roman Catholic terms and concepts that are now codified in a
position paper.
So this marks a decided shift toward this concept of community taking the primacy
over the individual within our church.
But Bob, if our people were just reading and studying, they could see this.
Praise God, the Lord has raised you up to warn our people of these things,
and hopefully people are watching these videos so that when they read this kind of
thing, Bob, they can see what this is and not be fooled.
Well, this is...
It sounds so pious!
Because as a people, we are called to maintain the purity and the liberty of the
gospel, not only in our proclamation, but in our personal lives.
And it's only as we really cherish these principles of true Protestantism,
of pure gospel liberty in our own lives, because where the Spirit of the Lord is,
there is liberty, and where the law of the Lord is, there is the perfect law of
liberty.
Only as we cherish these in our personal lives will we have the security and the
peace and the joy and the strength to combat this overwhelming apostasy that is
coming in, in asserting community rights over the individual, which will ultimately
lead to the universal death decree, which will be patterned right after the
words of Caiaphas, it is better that this people perish than that whole nations be
cast into confusion.
Well, Bob, I thank you so much for permitting the Lord to use you in the way
that He is using you in such a mighty way to wake up our Adventist people.
May God continue to be with you in safety and giving you wisdom, and for us to have
access to the Adventist people.
God bless you, John.
May God bless you, Bob.
A distinct pleasure working with you once again, and we wish God's richest blessing
on you and your ministry.
The feeling is mutual.
Thanks now.
Bye-bye.
Till we meet again, may God bless you.