First and foremost, we extend our welcome.
Brother Eric, thanks for returning to PID Radio.
It's a pleasure to be with you, Tariq, and our listeners.
We have been doing a series over the last month or so focusing on conspiracies,
and there is no more prominent conspiracy in the history of the United States,
if not the world, than the assassination of President John F.
Kennedy.
Your research into that event takes a very different perspective from those of other
researchers, and we wanted to get your take on it, because we are impressed,
first of all, that it's a fresh look on the day, but also because it is so
meticulously researched.
In a nutshell, can you give us an overview?
And I guess the big question would be, who do you see, based on the evidence
you've researched, as being responsible for the death of President Kennedy?
The ones that I blame for being behind the assassination of John F.
Kennedy are the Jesuits, subject to their general, who at that time was Gene Baptist
Jensen.
And the Jesuits then are in command or in control of the Roman hierarchy,
which the most powerful churchman at the time, in 1963, was the Archbishop of New
York, Francis Cardinal Spellman, who in turn was the protector of the
American Lange, or the American branch, of the sovereign military order of Malta.
And these Knights of Malta of his were in key positions of power at the time of the
assassination, so that it can be proven, through them, that indeed the Vatican was
behind the murder of President Kennedy.
Well, the most obvious question, I think, following from that statement,
is why would the Vatican take out the first Roman Catholic president in American
history?
Because he was disobedient.
He resisted the papacy, he resisted the Jesuits, he resisted the Knights of Malta.
He resisted their Cold War.
I have a list of things that he did that was absolutely forbidden, and therefore
justified this piece of business or executive action called his murder.
Okay, so let's look at the events of the day then.
In what way would the hand of the Jesuits have worked in Dallas on that day?
Okay, we'll go back a few years.
After, of course, the Knights of Malta were the ones who brought on World War II.
They controlled FDR.
Patrick Cardinal Hayes put FDR in office in 1932.
He used certain Knights of Malta to do it.
One of them was Joseph Kennedy, and also another one was Mr. Brady,
whose wife Genevieve was the Dame of Malta, Nicholas Brady.
Nicholas Brady was the head of over 100 corporations at the time, and much
wealthier than the Rockefellers.
So the Knights of Malta brought on World War II, backing FDR, backing Hitler,
backing Mussolini, secretly backing Stalin, and backing Churchill.
And so they controlled all the factions of World War II, and they orchestrated them
together for the purposes that they wanted to accomplish.
After World War II, they then inaugurated the Cold War.
So the Knights of Malta are the great cold warriors.
They had much to accomplish in that time, one of the things being the continual
dismemberment of the British Empire, which was historically Protestant.
So they were continuing their Cold War, which was a hoax, controlling both sides
of course, weakening the U.S.
while building Russia and China.
And as they continued this Cold War, Kennedy came along and wanted to end it.
One of the things that he wanted to do was end Cardinal Spellman's War in Vietnam,
that's called Spelly's War.
Another thing he wanted to do is he wanted to prevent the Pope's Masonic Jewish Labor
Zionist government in Israel from acquiring a nuclear weapon.
This was absolutely forbidden because remember the Jesuits wanted to have what
they considered to be the medieval or the dark age kingdom of Jerusalem secured,
so that they can rebuild the Third Hebrew Temple for ultimately a Pope of their
making.
To do that they have to have weapon supremacy there in Israel, and Kennedy
wanted to prevent that.
Another reason is that Kennedy crossed the Jesuit Order's Federal Reserve Bank.
Of course the Federal Reserve Bank, the Class A stockholders like Citibank and
J.P.
Morgan and Chase Manhattan were all run by Knights of Malta, Martin of Chea and
others.
So Kennedy printed 4.3 billion dollars in United States notes, outraging the Knights
because he didn't use Federal Reserve notes that collect interest from who
passed them around.
Kennedy also wanted to, in the stopping of the Vietnam War, that would have cut the
partnership between the CIA and the Mafia in their drug trade to bring their drugs
out of the Golden Triangle.
And remember that the Mafia and the OSS had a relationship throughout World War II
in Operation Underworld, whereby Spellman used the Mafia dons of New York,
particularly Luciano, to supposedly secure the invasion of Sicily.
So we've had an ongoing relationship between the CIA and the Mafia,
and Albert Vincent Peroni was CIA, he was on the intel, and he was part of
the Gambino family.
And I still maintain that Carlo Gambino was a high-level Knight of Malta,
along with John McCone at the time, at the time of the Kennedy assassination.
So we have high-level Knights involved in the Mafia, the CIA, and if the Vietnam War
would have ended, the drug trade as we know it today, this tremendously lucrative
drug trade for the papacy while destroying the major cities of the United States
would have ended.
So the Vatican, through the Jesuits, were actually benefiting from that drug
trade from Southeast Asia?
Absolutely.
And it's their drug trade.
They ran the whole opium, all the opium wars in the 19th century using the
British, because you remember the British century was that century by which they
used the British to overthrow the Manchu dynasty, and a series of other things.
And that drug trade, that opium trade, was completely in the hands of the Black
Pope through the English branch of the Knights of Malta and high-level
Freemasonry.
So you've got John F.
Kennedy then who was looking to put a stop to the war in Vietnam and the drug trade
running from that part of the world, prevent Israel from acquiring nuclear
weapons, and severing America's relationship or dependence on the Federal
Reserve Bank.
That's right.
The other thing was, he wanted to cut the tax breaks for the big oilmen.
So that brings in Murchison and Hunt.
He was going to get rid of those tax breaks.
And I maintain that those Texas oilmen, those billionaires, were also connected to
the Vatican by knighthoods.
And so therefore, because the Vatican runs the whole oil industry, George Herbert
Walker Bush is probably one of the most powerful Knights of Malta in the world.
He is a kingpin in the Pope's international oil bonanza.
Of course, the papacy set up Saudi Arabia in 1932, and King even saw it using Benito
Mussolini, whose advisor was Patriotachi Venturi, the secretary of the Society of
Jesus.
So the Jesuits controlled not only the drug trade, they controlled the
international oil market.
And Kennedy wanted to cut that.
George H.
W.
Bush is a Knight of Malta?
That's right.
And so is his brother, Prescott Bush Jr. And so is his father, Prescott Bush Sr.
And Prescott Bush Sr. was a partner with one of Germany's most powerful Knights of
Malta and fanatical Roman Catholics, Fritz Thyssen.
Fritz Thyssen purchased the brown house for Adolf Hitler.
Without Fritz Thyssen, there is no Adolf Hitler.
Without Franz von Tappen, that Knight of Malta, there is no Adolf Hitler.
And Michael Cardinal von Fallhaber, who was the Archbishop of Munich,
was also a Knight of Malta.
And without Fallhaber, there is no Hitler.
Now I'm going to ask a question that may be rather naive and may demonstrate a real
lack of understanding of the way this thing works.
But don't you have to be Roman Catholic to be a Knight of Malta?
No.
Henry Luce was a Presbyterian.
He was a Knight of Malta.
He was a most notorious Knight of Malta, right across the street from St. Patrick's
Cathedral, where he was residing in Rockefeller Center.
And Luce controlled the press.
You don't have to be Catholic to be a Knight of Malta.
There are those Knights who are ancient nobility Catholics, like J.
Peter Grace and Andrew Bertie and others.
But they do admit others into the order who are not Catholic.
They've admitted certain Jews into the order, one of them being Major Lewis M.
Bloomfield, who Jim Garrison wanted to investigate, question, but he was not
allowed to.
And Bloomfield was tied to big industry in Israel.
He's a Jew, and yet he's a Knight of Malta.
Affiliated and a director on CMC, the Senio Mondial Comercial, which is also
involved with Permadex.
So you don't have to be Catholic, necessarily.
That is a very key thing.
Okay, so the Knights of Malta are more, obviously, than just a social fraternity.
What is their purpose, then?
Their purpose, of course, their purpose is to restore the temple power of the Pope
around the world.
That the Pope will rule all the governments of the world, all the banks,
all the parties, academia, medicine, law, everything that's necessary to
maintain the temple power, the political power of the Pope.
And if you remember, the Pope has the two keys.
It's a clandestine skull and crossbones, if you look at the papal flag.
You have the triple crown, and you have two keys.
It's clandestine skull and crossbones.
And the two keys are the spiritual power of the Pope, that every individual in the
world must be subject to his spiritual power, and that there's no salvation
outside the Catholic Church.
And the second power is his temple power, that every nation, every king,
every president must be one of his altar boys.
That they must submit to his political will.
And the nation that does not do that comes under the attack of the papacy.
A president who will not do that will come under the attack of the Knights and the
Jesuits.
This was the case with Kennedy.
How long have the Knights of Malta been around?
They've been around since the 11th century.
They were the first order created for the purpose of the Crusades to take Jerusalem,
quote-unquote, from the infidel Muslims.
And they then, after Jerusalem was taken in the first Crusade, they then became the
protectors for all the pilgrims who would come to Jerusalem.
And they became the great merchants of the earth.
They were the ones whose navy would war with the Muslim navy.
But they were also the military men, because it's called the Sovereign Military
Order of Malta.
They were first known as the Hospitallers, the Knights of Rhodes, and finally the
Knights of Malta.
But that was their early beginning.
Okay, so they were founded about the same time as the Knights Templar.
That's right.
The Knights Templar were founded after them.
Shortly after.
So the Knights Templar are the high-level masons of today.
The Hospitallers, the Knights Hospitallers, are the Knights of Malta
today.
And they work together.
Okay.
So how was the organization set up then in 1962 and the group that plotted against
John F.
Kennedy?
Okay, I'll go back a little bit.
The Knights of Malta were made subject to the Jesuits as a result of the Napoleonic
Wars.
This is important.
The Jesuits had been expelled from Malta in 1768.
So when they caused the French Revolution and brought Napoleon to power out of
Corsica, they used Napoleon with his navy to take Malta back.
To take Malta and take all the treasures and weapons so they could conduct a
crusade into the Middle East.
And they drove the Knights of Malta into the court of Russia.
And from the time that they were in the court of Russia to 1917, they were the
real power in Russia.
And they were expelled openly by Lenin in 1917.
So the Knights of Malta were made subject to the Jesuit order in about 1800 when
they were driven to Russia.
And the Jesuit general was a resident in Russia at that time because the Jesuits
had been suppressed by the Popes.
So the Knights are now at that time subject to the Jesuits and they will do
their bidding and they have done their bidding.
So now when we come to the Kennedy assassination, as we see the Knights of
Malta, they now are subject to the Jesuits as the Jesuits control the Roman hierarchy
and the Roman hierarchy controls the Knights of Malta.
So as the head of the Knights of Malta in the U.S.
at the time was Spelman, he then controlled the Knights of Malta,
but he was under the advice of the Jesuits from Georgetown University.
Okay.
So the Jesuits at Georgetown controlled or advised Archbishop Spelman in New York?
That's correct.
And also the Jesuits from Fordham.
Okay.
So then was Cardinal Spelman involved in the operational planning for this or did
he just make it known that this is something that needed to be done and then
let others take the ball and run with it as far as how it would be carried out?
Cardinal Spelman was the one who gave the order to his J.
Peter Grace.
J.
Peter Grace was the head of the Knights of Malta in 1963.
J.
Peter Grace was the one who brought in many, many Nazis into the U.S.
and hired several of them for his firm to bear Grace.
And so Grace then handed it to his subordinate Knights like John McCone,
Alan Dulles, who was another Knight of Malta and not a Catholic by the way.
And so we have the heads of the CIA usually always being Knights of Malta from
Wild Bill Donovan to Dulles to John McCone.
And so there they then orchestrated and the most powerful Knight of Malta in the
FBI at the time was the sister to J.
Edgar Hoover, Cartha Deloach.
Sister to J.
Edgar Hoover, Cartha Deloach.
So Cartha Deloach, he was in charge of the FBI as far as suppressing evidence and not
confiscating the pictures that were taken in D.B.
Plaza.
Okay, so Grace then was given the order by Spellman to go ahead and conduct this hit.
Who would Grace have turned to then for operations?
He would turn to the head of the Knights of Malta, the head of the CIA,
Alan Dulles who was really the head even though he was relieved by Kennedy for the
Bay of Pigs, deliberate loss of the Bay of Pigs.
That Kennedy was not responsible for.
See, Kennedy did not give the order to cancel the year cover.
According to Fletcher Prouty in his work, JFK, it was McGeorge Bundy who did that.
And McGeorge Bundy was skull and bones, CFR, and therefore he betrayed Kennedy.
So Kennedy is very much embarrassed so he relieves Charles Cabella of his command as
Assistant Deputy Director of the CIA.
And so now Kennedy reappoints John McCone as the head of the CIA but McCone's first
loyalty is to the Archbishop.
It's not to Kennedy.
Because McCone is a Knight of Malta.
He was formerly the head of the Atomic Energy Commission.
He's a very great man of power.
And so McCone is going to be subordinate to his commander J.
Peter Grace and then he also has the Knights of Malta in the CIA like James
Angleton.
And James Angleton was awarded one of the highest awards that could ever be given by
the Knights of Malta for his protection of the Black Prince of Italy who was a
Borghese.
Oh, really?
I did not know they were still around.
Oh, yes.
Remember, the nobility still rules.
The nobility of the dark age now rules the nations but they rule them through these
facades called democracies or republics.
They're not really true democratic republics but they call them republics or
democracies.
They control all the political leaders through the parties they control because
they control all the money.
So the knights, the princes, the princes of the blood of Europe and America,
they rule.
And so Angleton was a part of this, Borghese was a part of this, Bloomfield
was a part of this as a Knight of Malta, and so was Clay Shaw, the head of the
trademark in New Orleans.
He was a Knight of Malta also.
Clay Shaw was CIA, a Knight of Malta, Roman Catholic, head of the trademark in
New Orleans.
And he was a co-director of CMC in Italy and involved with Permadex also.
And some of the princes that were involved in the Knights of Malta involved with CMC
are Prince Gutierrez di Spadolfora, an Italian industrialist and a large
landowner.
His daughter-in-law was related to Heimar Schacht.
Schacht's son-in-law was Orozcorsini.
Orozcorsini was a Knight of Malta.
He was, was he?
He was, yes he was.
He was the one who helped Bormann rebuild the Reich out of South America.
And Bormann was protected by a Knight of Malta named Juan Perón.
Eric, how did they coordinate events in Dallas?
Were there Jesuits on the ground in Dallas or did they delegate responsibility and
authority for the actual operations to CIA, Mafia, Special Forces?
Who handled the actual groundwork in Dallas?
Okay, the Jesuits always use third parties now.
They don't personally carry out assassinations.
And that's the purpose for the intelligence communities and the Mafia
that they've created.
So they always keep an arm's length away from these crimes.
They used to do it themselves, but since the revival and since really the
turn of the 20th century, they have their third trust.
Ignatius Lilla called it in his secret instruction as a trusted third party.
So they always use a trusted third party.
So, for example, in Dallas, we know that the night before the, this was all worked
out months in advance.
Allen Dulles was one of the planners of it, of the CIA.
Gerald Ford was, I'm sure, involved.
He's also a Knight of Malta, a high-level 33rd degree Freemason.
John McCloy was involved.
McCloy was a very key individual.
McCloy was the one who released at least 28 high-level Nazi murderers out of prison
after the Nuremberg trials by 1951.
So John McCloy was very much involved.
Hoover was involved.
Hoover hated the Kennedys.
In fact, Hoover was going to be relieved of his command by John F.
Kennedy.
Johnson was involved.
Johnson was not going to be a running mate for Kennedy from 1964.
Carlos Marcello and Joseph Civello were involved.
Civello, the Mafia Don of Dallas, and Marcello, the Mafia Don of New
Orleans.
They were involved because Marcello had been deported to Guatemala for 24 hours.
He was enraged at Robert Kennedy, and so he was very much incited for the
killing of JFK.
So all these men of power, Earl Cabell, whose brother, Charles Cabell,
had been relieved of his command of assistant director to the CIA.
He happened to be the mayor of Dallas.
Oh, right, right.
So Earl Cabell, since he's the mayor of Dallas, he's going to be in control of the
police chief of Dallas, Jesse Curry.
He's also going to be in control of the DA, Henry Wade.
And also the Texas Rangers are involved.
You have the Dallas sheriff of the county, the Dallas-Fort Worth County Sheriff
Peoples, he's involved.
And it's quite intriguing that all of these men that I just mentioned to you,
including Merchantson, Hunt, Richard Nixon, were all at this secret meeting at
Clint Merchantson's mansion in Dallas on November 21st, 1963.
According to Madeline Duncan Brown, President Johnson's Roman Catholic
mistress for 21 years, who bore him a son named Stephen.
And she wrote a book called Texas in the Morning.
And this is also validated by Robert DeMauro in his book First Hand Knowledge,
How I Participated in the CIA Mafia Murder of President Kennedy.
And this is validated on page 195 in a note, and he says, note 12, it was from
his good friend Hoover that Richard Nixon learned of the pending assassination.
Interestingly, on the eve of the assassination, Hoover and Nixon attended a
meeting together at the Dallas home of oil baron Clint Merchantson.
Among the subjects discussed at this meeting were the political futures of
Hoover and Nixon in the event President Kennedy was assassinated.
Well, that's where they made their final plans.
And according to Madeline Duncan Brown, when Johnson came out of the meeting,
he said, that SOB will never embarrass me again.
So, they had it all planned the night before, and knowing exactly what they were
going to do.
According to my list of Who are the Knights of Malta by Martin Lee,
there are at least 8 Knights of Malta who are residents in Dallas.
And of course, George DeMauron Shilt was also a Knight of Malta.
His brother, Demetri, was a Knight of Malta.
The DeMauron Shilts were Russian nobles openly driven from Russia by Lenin at the
time of the Bolshevik Revolution.
So, it would appear to be that the revolution was really anti-noble,
anti-aristocracy.
When in fact, this was a ruse to make the Russian Revolution look like it was
completely Masonic and completely Jewish.
So, George DeMauron Shilt was a Knight.
Now, as we discussed with Peter Lavenda some months ago, there was a connection,
sort of a tangential connection between DeMauron Shilt and, well, the Patsy,
the guy who was accused of shooting and why shouldn't I...
Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald.
It's amazing that I can discuss this and forget his name.
But, interestingly enough, well, that would get too far off track,
but very bizarre that DeMauron Shilt had some contact with Oswald prior to the
events of November 22nd of 1963.
We know it's only odd unless we know who Oswald really is.
Oswald, according to Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig, was an FBI informant.
Really?
Yes.
You can find this on one of Mark Lane's videos.
He has two men in Dallas.
So, Oswald was an FBI informant.
That's why he was conversing with Hostie.
Oswald was FBI.
And remember, at this meeting at Murchison's house, there's another guy
that's there, and his name is Jack Ruby.
Jack Ruby's not only Mob, he's also an FBI informant.
Ruby was at that meeting at Murchison's?
Yes.
And he was also an FBI informant.
So you have Mafia, FBI tied in the person of Jack Ruby.
Another thing about Oswald DeMauron Shilt, of course the books speak Russian,
and Oswald is also a CIA operative, because he was not a real defector.
And he married a woman whose uncle was a KGB officer.
Right.
So, after Oswald, they're setting Oswald up to be this patsy, so they have to paint
him with the brush of a fanatic and make him look like he's a communist and a
Russian and Soviet.
And so that was the purpose of him staying in Russia for, what, nearly two years.
So he comes back, he's not even debriefed, so it shows you his CIA connection.
And then his wife comes with him, which is virtually impossible.
I mean, Victor Herman couldn't get his wife out.
Victor Herman had been a slave in Russia for, what, 40-something years.
It's a tremendous story that you might want to run sometime.
It's called Coming Out of the Ice.
Victor Herman wrote a book called Coming Out of the Ice and the Gray People,
showing that Henry Ford sacrificed 73 American families to Joseph Stalin.
All of them killed in the gulags, except Victor Herman, this Jew who managed
to escape, by the grace of God.
And these Americans built the whole Gorky plant, and then after they built it,
they were eliminated.
But that's either here or there.
Victor Herman couldn't get his wife out.
How could Oswald get his wife out?
Because he was CIA.
That was one of the points that was really highlighted in Oliver Stone's movie JFK.
Yes.
And we'll talk about that a little bit more.
I want to get your assessment of the film.
But that was one of the things that stuck with me regarding Oswald.
How is it that he was able, first of all, to defect, but then to return with so
little difficulty?
In early 1960s America, at the height of the Cold War, you would think that he
would have found himself in a prison so fast, if he dared to come back.
Look what happened to Yuri Mishchenko.
Mishchenko came over here and he said, the KGB, where they were not handling
Oswald, he was not a KGB agent, sat back here.
Mishchenko was a legitimate defector.
What did Angleton do?
He tortured him for, what, nearly three years.
That's what Oswald should have went through when he was in Russia.
What happens?
He's given the world treatment.
He works in a factory in Minsk.
I mean, the guy is on Easy Street, he gets married, and then he comes back.
No, no.
He is... the CIA and the KGB work together.
That's why the Cold War is a hoax.
The Cold War is a creation of the press in this country, controlled by the Vatican
through the Council on Foreign Relations.
The Cold War never existed.
There was never a real war between the Russian government and the American
government.
It's all a hoax.
What happened was low-level men were killed, and there were wars trying to prop
it up, like the Korean War and so on, and the Vietnam War that shows it's come
out of the Cold War.
But it was all a hoax.
On the top, they all worked together because the Jews were building their
international intelligence community that is now completely and totally united.
And this is one of the keys in understanding how Oswald got in and how he
got out.
Because the KGB and the CIA worked together, both of them run by knights of
Malta, knights particularly like Kim Philby, who was a KGB general at the time.
He already went to Russia.
He was already shown to be a spy, so he was MI5 and he left, and instead of
being executed, he was able to go to Moscow and be a KGB agent at the time of
the Kennedy assassination.
And the other thing is Anatoly Golitsyn.
Anatoly Golitsyn comes from a royal Russian family, all the way back to
Alexander I.
Golitsyn was a knight of Malta, and he came over to the United States and
was given all the secret files of the CIA by James Angleton.
And he went through these files for a couple of years, and that's why all the
CIA operatives in Russia were killed, because they were betrayed by Angleton.
And Angleton was a knight of Malta, and he betrayed him to his brother,
a knight of Malta, Golitsyn, who then forwarded all this information to Moscow.
So all the pieces are in place in Dallas.
We've got all of these powerful knights of Malta on the ground, and in positions of
authority where they can direct the pawns on the chessboard.
And one other thing I forgot.
The Bishop of Dallas-Fort Worth is Thomas Kiley Gorman.
Thomas Kiley Gorman is a knight of Malta.
So therefore he's overseeing everything that's going on in the Dallas-Fort Worth
area.
Now, I have read, and I'm certainly not a scholar on the JFK assassination,
but I've read that the security measures that should have been standard for a
presidential motorcade were totally lacking in Dallas that day.
The route of the motorcade, the number of security forces on the ground,
just totally absent.
In other words, they did everything wrong that could have been done wrong.
Who would have been responsible for those security measures?
Would that have been the Secret Service?
And who would have been in a position to remove the protection from around
President Kennedy?
Well, as I understand, the one responsible for the security of the President would
have been military intelligence, General Lansdale, according to Fletcher
Prouty in his great work, JFK.
So Lansdale, who was CFR and was involved with the Nazis, he is the one who is
behind removing all the protection of JFK in Dallas for that day.
And so, with that, the Secret Service are the ones that will be carrying out the
assassination, because the Jesuits always carry out their assassinations up close
and personal.
There can be no chance of escape.
So no final kill shots are going to be done with a rifle.
So the Secret Service are going to do the close-up shooting.
There will be long-distance CIA shooters.
There will be FBI covering up evidence.
There will be Dallas police further covering up evidence.
There will be the sheriff covering up evidence and suppressing those in his
office who would want to do something about it.
But these are all low-level guys.
The high-level guy is from Washington, ultimately from New York, from the CFR.
The Pentagon is controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City.
The CFR controls all of our military heads.
And thus, whatever order is given by the Archbishop of New York, through his
knights, through the Council on Foreign Relations, to the Pentagon, then that's
what will be carried out in Dallas.
Okay.
So the motorcade has made that fateful turn in front of the book depository.
What is the sequence of events then from that point?
Who does what?
Okay.
The route was changed at the last minute.
It was not supposed to take that hairpin turn.
And so they turn right on Houston and they turn left on Elm.
And I tend to think whoever created the Freddie movies on Elm Street, that was
named after the JFK assassination.
I mean, they have their inner humor among themselves, you know, when they control
Hollywood.
So they turn on Elm, and as I understand it, there was one shot from the records
building, which was a rifle shot.
There was one shot from the school book depository, which of course Oswald did not
do that.
There were Cubans in that 6-4 also.
There was one shot from the Daltex building.
There was one shot from the Grand Cenote, from what I understand, and the next shot
to Kennedy.
There was one shot from the drain that William Greer pulled right up in front of.
And as I believe, there was one shot from the driver, William Greer.
So you have many, many different shooters.
But the kill shots, you have the distractionary shots and the long distance
shots from the buildings in the background.
According to a particular gentleman in a book that he wrote called... oh,
it concerns the assassination for that day...
Oh, anyway, he says that George Hickey fired his M-16, which was a Secret Service
agent, and accidentally shot Kennedy in the back.
I don't think that was an accident.
I think he did do it.
Anyway, you have those shooters.
So what I believe happened was Kennedy is brought into the kill zone.
You have all these distractions.
And the key parts to me are these.
The shot from the Grassy Knoll was a distraction.
There was smoke that came out of the rifle that would cause everybody's attention to
be looking at the Grassy Knoll.
Which is unusual because guns don't generally... gunpowder, even in the 1960s,
didn't smoke.
We've had smokeless gunpowder for a hundred years.
So there's no reason to use any kind of a shot that's going to produce smoke.
You almost have to go back to a musket to create that kind of a...
That's right.
That's black powder stuff, for sure.
So anyway, that is a very telltale sign that it was deliberate so that it would be
seen to draw attention away from some other place.
The other thing is, as Zapruder is filming this, and remember, Abraham Zapruder is a
32nd degree Jewish Freemason, and he's a contract agent for the CIA.
Yes, he is.
Really?
Yes, sir.
Zapruder is a contract agent for the CIA, and he was contracted to be there to take
this film.
He was being steadied by his secretary behind him.
Steadying his arm so that when the shots are raining out, he wouldn't lose his
focus.
And so what Zapruder does is, as he's taking this picture, using his 8mm camera,
he's deliberately keeping his camera high so as not to get lowering, taking a
picture of the entire broad side of the limousine, which would include the
sidewalk.
Because one of the shots is proceeding out from the drain in the curb, which the
drain was approximately 18 inches high, according to two sources that I know who
were there in Dallas, Penn Jones and my friend Lenny Bloom.
They were there.
They walked the whole thing.
And from behind the picket fence, they could walk down a concrete step
underground and come to this drain, and they could stand right in this drain
and have a perfect view of the limousine coming right up to them.
And that's why Greer stops, nearly stops his limousine.
He's delivering the limousine up to the killer in the drain, in the storm drain.
And this is exactly the position of Penn Jones, who had the Molovian mirror,
and this is exactly the position of Jim Garrison at the time.
That the Grassy Knoll shooter did not fire the kill shot.
It was this drain shooter.
I've seen an examination of photographic evidence from the day using some high-tech
imaging showing that that's able to reveal three-dimensional imagery from the
two-dimensional film that was taken of the moment of the shooting.
And it was determined that, based on forensics, the only angle that could have
produced that kill shot was the one coming from a low angle, such as the drain along
the side of the street there.
Yes, I'm convinced that it was a simultaneous shot from the drain and from
the driver.
That's what it appears to me.
I'll tell you why.
For the drain, no problem.
As you look at Kennedy's head, it explodes.
And there's actually debris going up.
And then the motorcycle rider, Mr. Hargis, is splattered with blood and
bone marrow, bone matter.
So he's off, he's back and to the left, and so this would betray the trajectory
coming from the drain just perfectly.
Yeah, which would have been down and to the right from where President Kennedy was
seated in the car.
And there was a .45 slug found, according to Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig,
found in the grass on the other side of the curb in blood and brain matter.
A .45 slug?
A .45 slug.
Which you don't fire from a rifle.
Unless you've got a Thompson machine gun.
So that shows that there was a shot coming from the direction and low and to the,
from the right, and it fits perfectly to the drain.
And this was Jim Garrison's position and Ken Jones's position.
And so since those men were there, I believe them.
But there was no way to identify the shooter in the drain.
That's why they could go with him exclusively.
The other thing is, I do believe that the driver did do the shooting also,
because there were several witnesses to that who simply disappeared.
The cameras were confiscated, and there was blood and bone material on the back of
the trunk of the limousine, which is not in agreement with a shot low and from the
right.
You're right.
Okay.
So you, and according to Robert Grodin, he put forth a movie once and it showed
how the bullet entered above the right eye to the right of the right eye.
And this is shown in David Lifton's work.
It actually shows the bullet hole before the head was doctored at Bethesda,
or before it arrived at Bethesda.
It shows that, the actual bullet hole entry, and then of course the big opening
at the temple, but then the exit, the huge exit wound on the right rear
portion of his skull, of his head.
So that trajectory comes from the driver.
So you have a driver shot coming that way as William Cooper rightfully proved.
He took great efforts to prove that.
And also, the former head of the John Birch Society, coordinator of the John
Birch Society, Dr. Stuart Crane, who taught at Bob Jones University for
many years, he said the driver did it.
And the other one, a Roman Catholic attorney in Washington, D.C.
by the name of Dr. Peter Beter, he had a series of audio letters,
and I have about half of them.
And one of his audio letters, he goes into this, and he says that the President was
shot from inside the vehicle.
So, I tend to believe that the shooting was done from the driver, and this is why
the driver was not blamed for all those years, because he died in 1985.
William Greer died in 1985, and if he was accused of that, you can know there would
have been serious problems for the open accuser.
So, there was a simultaneous shot from the driver, this is why he turns around the
very moment Kennedy's head explodes.
He's looking at Kennedy in film 313, the very moment his head explodes.
And I say this is why Jackie wanted to get out of the car, because she thought she's
next.
Now, Eric, the Zapruder film has been around for a long time, and you do see the
driver turn around, you don't see the gun clearly.
It's really hard to make out from the film that driver Greer has anything in his
hand.
Well, it looks like there's a reflection off Kellerman's head.
That's what it looks like.
And I say that's a doctoring that was deliberately done to the film.
The man who wrote Behold a Pale Horse, William Cooper, went into very much
effort, took a lot of effort and finance, to have the Japanese analyze the film.
And he said that after their analysis, that most assuredly the driver did the
shooting.
So I say William Cooper was the finest authority, the best digger on this issue
of Greer doing the shooting.
And he said that he saw private records from Navy Intelligence that Greer did in
fact do the shooting.
And remember, Greer is a former Navy SEAL.
He's a crack shot.
But of course at that distance, he would have defeated him.
Five or six feet away, it's point blank.
And this is my point.
The Jesuits always do their killing.
Whenever it involves a poison, the lead and bullet, at close point blank
range.
So how would the Zapruder film have been doctored?
Who would do this?
Well, very intriguingly, the film was purchased.
I understand there were three films that were made.
Two were given to the Secret Service.
One was retained by Abraham Zapruder.
The films were purchased by Henry Luce of Time Life.
And he paid $150,000 for the film that he got.
Who as you mentioned was a Knight of Malta.
And he was a Knight of Malta.
Now we see the cover up beginning with the Knights of Malta.
Of course there's the cover up when the telephones go out in Washington for an
hour.
That's accomplished by the Knights of Malta through Francis Flanagan,
who was the head of IT&T at the time.
So the Knights of Malta are maintaining the cover up because greater is the power
to maintain the cover up than to carry out the assassination.
So Henry Luce, head of Time and Life, purchases the Zapruder film for $150,000.
And remember that Luce is the head of Rockefeller Center.
Rockefeller Center is across the street from St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York
City.
Therefore he's a hop, skip and a jump away from Archbishop Spellman.
And so they are suppressing this film.
And so they doctor the film and they cut certain particular frames out of the film.
And they want to make it look like he was shot from behind.
They did all kinds of cutting on the film, which was a crime.
So it was Luce.
And of course he's affiliated with the CIA.
So it's the CIA that's busy doctoring these films, these frames.
But fortunately, William Cooper got an original copy and he had it analyzed.
It shows absolutely the driver did the shooting.
Another interesting thing is that in the JFK film with Oliver Stone, who is also a
Jesuit-Temple collagenter, that in the Oliver Stone film, the JFK film,
they leave out the driver when they focus in on the shooting.
Why did they cut out the driver?
That's a good point.
I hadn't noticed that.
They cut out the driver in the shooting.
That's right.
Because he did the shooting.
So the purpose of the movie then, which presents an awful lot of information
that jives with what you're saying here, but the purpose of that film then would be
what?
To create unrest in the country, to move the white middle class to
revolution.
Because to have a successful revolution, you must include the middle class.
And so what the Jesuits are doing is they are driving the historic white Protestants
and the white Roman Catholics into a right-wing fascist faction, to ultimately
then gain control of the government and do exactly in America what they did in
Germany.
That's why they get it.
No answers.
The other thing is, Oliver Stone, just like Mark Lane, that collagenter,
that Jesuit collagenter, Jewish-Jesuit collagenter, removes all attention away
from the storm drain, which a killing shot did come from, to the grassy knoll.
And this was in violation of all the investigation that Garrison had
discovered.
Now, Jim Garrison was an honest man.
He was there.
He had agents in Dallas trying to find out what went on.
One of those agents was Roger Craig, the deputy sheriff, who later was shot
with a rifle after he was run off the road, got a broken back, and a series of
other things happened where they wanted to kill him.
But it was Roger Craig that said they found a Mauser on the 6th floor
depository.
It was not a Mannlinger Gargano.
It was a Mauser.
And it was a .45 slug that they found on the other side of the curb.
Those two things right there completely do away with any case against Lee Harvey
Oswald.
Absolutely.
There is no case.
And so Garrison knew there was no case against Oswald.
That's why they eliminated Oswald, using FBI informant Ruby, so that they
wouldn't have a trial or anything like that.
So Garrison found out all these details and ultimately leaves tonight at Malta
Clay Show.
So we have Kowajitor Oliver Stone, who then repaves the road in Dallas for
his movie, and he further covers up the drain, the storm drain.
He makes it smaller than what it was, covers up the drain, the storm drain.
He makes it smaller than what it was.
I did not know that.
Yes.
So they're busy suppressing evidence of the shot from the storm drain and the shot
from the driver, which I believe was simultaneous.
Hit Kennedy at the same time, that's why he had his head exploding.
Flesh going one direction up and one direction back over to the left.
One direction back on the trunk of the limousine.
There's two kill shots that are involved here.
One from the driver, one from the drain.
So this is deliberately covered up by all the cover-up knights involved in the
investigation.
Now, let's go back to Abraham Zapruder.
You talked about cameras being confiscated from witnesses along the route.
Why would the government have allowed, the investigators have allowed Zapruder's
film to, you know, why would they have let him keep a copy?
Very good question.
Very good.
Why would they let him keep his film?
Why would they even let him stand there and film this when they were running
people off the grassy knoll and other places?
Why would they let him stand there?
Because he was a contract agent for the CIA.
They wanted this film, and you can know that the original film they have,
they have parties up in Rockefeller Center, and they invite their friends up
and say, let's watch Kennedy get his head blown off as they're passing around the
drinks.
How dare he interfere with the temple power of the Pope?
You know, it's interesting you mention that because there's a book that's
available on the internet.
Actually, it was a rough draft of a manuscript called The Last Circle by
Sherry Seymour.
And she mentioned a meeting with a gentleman on the West Coast whose name is
escaping me at the moment.
I'll probably think of it as soon as we stop the interview.
Who showed her what he claimed to be the unedited original version of the Zapruder
film.
Which showed clearly what you described, the driver turning and firing that kill
shot.
I read that for the first time just a couple of months ago, and that was my
first, and I've said before on this program, I'm coming late to the party with
a lot of these things.
That was my first exposure to the idea that the driver had actually been the one
to pull the trigger.
Thank you for that reference.
I'll send you a link to that after the program.
Because the text of her manuscript, which doesn't deal with the JFK
assassination, this is just something that she mentioned passing in meeting with this
fellow who is a CIA operative and involved in some other nefarious deeds.
But the point was that you could very likely assure the cooperation of anyone in
a position of government authority, especially say a newly elected president,
by inviting him to such a meeting and showing him such a film to make the point.
Play ball.
That's right, there has never been a disobedient president except Nixon.
Nixon had too much stuff on him because he was part of the assassination,
so they just railroaded him out.
But there has not been a disobedient president really since.
They all know.
And it's been that way in Russia?
There hasn't been a disobedient premier there.
So this was a demonstration to the world that if you mess with us, we're going to
kill you in broad daylight and we're going to get away with it in the supposedly
freest country in the world with the freedom of the press.
It's quite an intimidating film when they show that.
So the purpose then of the Zapruder film was to hide it in plain sight.
Here we've got this film that's been turned over to Time Warner and of course
you can trust Time Magazine, a reputable journal of news and information,
and as we examine the film, we don't see anything except what they want us to see.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
And remember, the American people did not see the film until it was subpoenaed by
Jim Garrison in 1969.
It was locked up in Time Warner for five years in a safe.
So we owe much to Jim Garrison and his research that he did for us.
And he has provided the evidence that there would be a successful
reinvestigation and proving that the Knights of Malta, the Vatican,
the Archbishop of New York did this enough to expel the entire Roman hierarchy and
the Jesuit order and the Knights of Malta out of this country.
And that's what they don't want.
That's why the Jesuits run the Department of Justice.
That's why they have men like Patrick Fitzgerald to rat hole and to suppress
investigations like the 1993 World Trade City bombing and like Bush's advisor Karl
Rove.
He's a free man now thanks to Patrick Fitzgerald, that Jesuit collector.
So they control the Justice Department, they control the FBI, and they will make
sure that there will never be a successful investigation of their assassinations or
of their crimes.
Speaking of that now, in the months and years that followed the assassination of
John F.
Kennedy, a number of key witnesses and pieces of evidence disappeared.
Can you summarize that for us?
Well, there were, I forget, 18 material witnesses, something along that line,
who died strangely within, what, three years after the assassination.
This can be seen in a movie called Executive Action.
It was put out in 1973.
Supposedly George DeMora still had a hand in this production.
Executive Action, was that a movie with...
Burt Lancaster.
Okay, okay.
And you know the man, the actor that they used to portray the man responsible for
the assassination?
The actor that they used, he was an older gentleman who appeared to be the one who
would give the final command for the killing of Kennedy.
His name was Will Greer.
That's right.
Will Greer.
Yeah.
It's an innuendo.
Grandpa Walton.
It's an innuendo to show that the real assassin was William Greer.
That's why they chose the actor Will Greer to play the part of, I think it was Mr.
Thomason or something.
How interesting.
Uh-huh.
No, it was Will Gere was his name.
Gere.
No, Greer.
I'm looking at the Internet Movie Database right now.
Will Gere.
Gere?
Is it Gere?
Yeah, G-E-E-R.
Played the role of Ferguson in the movie.
Ferguson, that's right.
That's right, Ferguson.
Which is interesting in that that happens to be my...
Very close.
Ferguson happens to be my lovely wife's maiden name.
But I assure you we had nothing to do with anything we're discussing today.
But still, that is awfully close and perhaps a sideways reference to what had
been done in Dallas on that day.
And it is... we certainly believe, and there may be listeners who would
disagree or think that we're stretching a point here, but we certainly believe that
Hollywood is used and the entertainment industry is used to plant thoughts,
memes, guide public discourse even, into important public events through the
way they're portrayed in film.
I mean, that's the reason that there's such a hoo-ha about the Da Vinci Code.
It appears when you watch Oliver Stone's film, JFK, that you're seeing a bold
examination of the events in Dealey Plaza that day.
But as you point out, what you're actually seeing is a very clever deception that
de-emphasizes the role of William Gere and whoever was in the storm train.
Yeah, and William Greer, that's right.
Yeah.
William Greer and the driver and whoever's in the storm train.
Some people said it was Johnny Russelli in the storm train, but it doesn't really
matter.
The de-emphasizes that, it puts all your attention on the grassy knoll,
and then, you know, who knows?
But they don't want to begin to look at the other facts, like when Garrison sought
to subpoena Alan Dulles, they would not deliver the subpoena.
It would not be delivered for him to come.
So he is this Alan Dulles, a Knight of Malta, whose nephew, by the way,
today is a Knight of Malta and a Cardinal and a Jesuit by the name of Avery Dulles,
who lives and works at Fordham University.
So that they are not going to be allowed to do this.
Jim Garrison also wanted to interview Major Louis Mortimer Bloomfield,
a veteran of the OSS, who resided in Montreal.
He could not be interviewed, because this guy is one of the 11 directors in a
company in Montreal, that is actually based in Rome.
And he is also involved with the World Trade Center, the Senio Mondial
Comerciano, whose sole purpose is that, quote, "...for Rome will recover once
again her position as center of the civilized world." And that's in an article
of May Brussels, the Nazi connection to the JFK assassination.
So, yes, these very key men were not allowed to be subpoenaed and come to
trial.
And for Garrison to actually serve Clay Shaw and get him into the court,
my, that was a miracle that he was actually able to pull that off.
He had a Knight of Malta in there.
He had the highest clearance in the CIA in there.
He's former OSS.
He's a friend of Borghese and all the knights in Italy.
In his private phone book, he has a number of several knights.
And he's also involved in human sacrifice, as Garrison discovered when he was looking
at his place in New Orleans.
And we have that on page 169 of Garrison's book.
I wouldn't say human sacrifice, but some sort of torture with blood
involved, on page 169.
And I'll read that for you.
It says, probably the most interesting single item seized in the course of Shaw's
arrest was his address book.
It offers some insight into the proclivity of developing casual relationships at
lofty levels of European aristocracy.
How many Americans have in their address books such fascinating names and addresses
as the Marquis Giuseppe Ravencina in Italy?
Or the Baron Raphael de Banfield, Villa Sierpkiewicz in Theresa,
Italy.
Sir Stephen Retcherman, well he was the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Princess Jacqueline Chimay, Lady Margaret the Arcee, and a few other things.
And then he goes on to say, and also found by our investigators at Shaw's luxurious
appointed carriage house in the French Quarter were a few more novel items,
including five whips, several links of chain, and a black hood matching black
cape.
The whips had on them what happened to be dried blood.
In the bedroom about two and a half feet apart, two large hooks had been screwed
into the ceiling.
These accoutrements hardly were inculvatory in themselves.
Different people have different hobbies.
Had Shaw lived in an earlier era, however, the list of nobles in his address
book might have included the Marquis de Sade.
Yeah, yeah, he was a very bizarre character.
He was the guy, for you listeners, if you've seen the movie JFK, he was the
character portrayed by Tommy Lee Jones in the movie.
And there are a couple of scenes in there that get a little over the top,
but would seem to be borne out by the evidence from Clay Shaw's apartment.
We're almost out of time, Brother Eric, and it's gone by far too quickly.
If you could summarize, what do you see as the effect on America of the assassination
of John F.
Kennedy?
The effect of America on America is this.
It was not solved as it should have been, with the blame being put on the Pope of
Rome and his Jesuits.
Therefore, they have greatly increased their power.
They are now in complete control of this government, and they brought down the
World Trade Center.
They caused 9-11 through Night of Malta, George J.
Tenet.
They've now got a papal crusade against the Muslim peoples.
And it's not going to end, according to Newt Gendrick, between 30 and 50 years.