Before I get to my guest, author of Vatican Assassins, Eric Phelps,
let me tie this story into what Eric is going to be talking about.
When Leo Wanton, let me just make a correction, when I said black account,
the account that Leo Wanton got the $250 million dollars wasn't the black account.
It was the black account that the $250 million ended up with, that's never been
accounted for, that Foster carried over from Switzerland.
Now the interesting part of this story is that Leo Wanton was trying to do the right
thing.
He was trying to get the money, he always has tried to get over $27
trillion dollars back to the American people, even to this day.
And he has been unsuccessful due to the fact that at this moment when Foster was
sent back to the States, that was July 7th or 8th, before he was killed on July 20th,
1993.
Wanton was put in a dungeon in Switzerland, and guess who tried to save
him?
A gentleman by the name of Itzhak Rabin sent a letter and tried to get him out.
When the corrupt people in Switzerland heard Itzhak Rabin was on his way to help
Leo Wanton, Leo Wanton was taken in chains and sent to America before Rabin could get
there.
Now, Itzhak Rabin was killed in 1995.
Now I'm looking at a photo on Vatican Assassins website, and it's a photo of Leo
Rabin in 1995 with Pope John Paul II.
Now, let me read to you what Eric Phelps says about this photo, and then we're
going to get to Eric about some really interesting things that have come up since
we last talked to him.
He says this, this photo taken from November 13th, 2000 edition of the
Pittsburgh Tribune Review depicts the late Leo Rabin in 1995, following her private
audience at the Vatican with the greatest accomplice to her husband's, that's Itzhak
Rabin, who was trying to help Mr. Wanton, cold-blooded murder the infallible Pope
John Paul II.
The Mossad and the arm of the Jesuit General's international intelligence
community carried out the assassination as the disobedient Freemason and Prime
Minister Itzhak Rabin opposed Rome's policy for Zionist Israel.
For the Jesuits will never allow any portion of the old city of Jerusalem to be
given to the Muslims, especially the Palestinians, controlled by the order
through Arafat.
Indeed.
And Eric says this, the arm of the church is long.
Eric Phelps, how are you today?
Pleased to be with you, Greg.
Thank you for having me.
And that is quite a quote, quite a picture, and quite, the church's arm is
very long.
Tell us again, just to refresh our listeners' memories, you've been with us
before, and tell us why you feel if we want to stop the new world order,
one good step is to remove the Jesuits from American soil.
Absolutely right.
They've been suppressed and expelled at least 80 times in their past, from since
their inception in 1540 to the present.
The most powerful nations of Europe have expelled them, especially the Roman
Catholic nations of France, Portugal, and Spain in the 1700s.
And Britain had expelled them many times.
France has expelled them, I've counted, no less than 8 times.
Germany expelled them in 1872, and Russia expelled them in 1820,
until they were formally readmitted by Lenin in 1922.
So, the Jesuits have been expelled as a matter of state policy, not as a matter of
their religion, in that they are always dabbling in politics seeking to control
the state.
And the ultimate expulsion was Pope Clement XIV's papal bull of suppression
and extinction, Dominic Agriadaptor Noster, that he signed in 1773,
which officially did away with the Jesuit order.
Now, can you tell us how, just in a quick recap before we get into some other
interesting points, just how the Jesuits have infiltrated and have a working
relationship with people like the Knights of Malta, the Shriners, the Freemasons,
the Knights of Columbus, and other groups.
How does this work after your research, after you've done extensive research into
this?
Okay, with regard to the Knights of Malta, the Jesuits control the Pope, the Black
Pope controls the White Pope, the Black Pope being Peter Hans Kollenbach,
the White Pope being Pope Benedict XVI.
The Pope then controls the Knights of Malta, in that the Grand Master of the
Knights of Malta is a Cardinal, and he was conferred that status by Leo
XIII around 1878.
The Jesuits control, again, the papacy, and thus they control the Knights of
Columbus through the papacy.
The Jesuits wrote all the high rites of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.
They wrote the first 25 rites in the College of Clermont in Paris, France in
1754, according to my Masonic book, Ask Me Another Brother, a Masonic quiz
book.
And so they wrote the first 25 degrees of Scottish Rite, and then they wrote the
last eight degrees when they were protected by Frederick the Great when they
were expelled and suppressed by the Pope.
So they created the Council of the 33rd Degree, and thus control all high-level
Freemasonry.
In fact, Leo XIII's Secretary of State, Cardinal Rumpala, was a member of the
high-level Masonic OTO, Order of Oriental Templars, the same as was Aleister
Crowley.
So the Jesuits control Freemasonry, not through the papacy, but directly
through the Black Pope himself via the Illuminati and other secret societies,
and then they control the Roman Catholic Brotherhoods through the Pope and thus his
hierarchy.
How would you say they went about... one of the things that I've read that you've
researched is that one of their main goals was to infiltrate the Catholic Church.
They knew they had to do this in order to reach their goal with their other minions,
and that means the goal of the New World Order, to take over the world.
Tell us how, I guess, they began this.
When did this begin, and what is the present situation in the Vatican?
Okay, the Jesuit Order is the spearhead, or the backbone, behind the
Counter-Reformation.
And therefore, the purpose of the Order was to thwart the Reformation,
bring it to naught, and then after that, bringing a Pope of their power,
a Pope of their control, to ruling the world through the Third Hebrew Temple to
be rebuilt in Jerusalem.
That's always been their plan.
And so, they have had success in the past, but been suppressed in the past.
And really, to know their power now, we have to go back to their formal
re-institution by the 7th and 1814, when they were revived and created fresh,
or actually brought back into power, but nothing had ever changed.
And so, from 1815 to the present, that's probably the most important period
of history for us to review and know about.
Okay, and I'll bring it up to today's situation, so people can understand how it
works there.
And I just want to add something.
When I was there, I used to work in Rome, and I worked as a freelance reporter.
And I was talking to people back about 20 years ago, regarding the same subject.
And the same subject came up there, and the Italian people and some people
that were researching it were very clear that there was some group, headed by the
Black Pope, controlling the Vatican.
And that was 20 years ago.
So, tell us a little bit about the situation that exists in modern-day Rome.
Well, without a doubt, the Black Pope rules the Vatican.
He rules the Pope, he rules the hierarchy, he rules the Curia.
His headquarters is Borghese Santo Spirito No.
5, outside of Vatican Walls.
And thus, although he controls different factions, because within the papacy,
you don't have a total unity of orders and individuals.
So, he controls the factions, or he brings about the success of certain factions
while affording others.
But ultimately, at the very pinnacle of power stands the Jesuits and his
assistants, and they enter in control of the papacy.
And in fact, when I spoke in Nevada several years ago, there was a Roman
Catholic woman there, and she said to me, I want to know why you're still alive.
And I said, well, I just believe the Lord is sovereign, he'll take care of me,
and when he's finished with me, then he will allow the Jesuits to kill me,
as long as I keep personal sin out of my life and I seek to be obedient to him.
And she says, I want you to know that in the Catholic Church I went to for years,
that when the Jesuits ever came, our priests were all scared to death and
had the nervous sweats.
Yeah, I mean, that's a question.
I mean, you make no bones about it.
You've done the research, and I know you're not talking just from the top of
your head here.
You've researched this issue, and I know your heart is in the right place to get at
the bottom of this evil that's taken over in our government.
We can see it.
And in the stories I just mentioned at the outset of the show, the killing of Itzhak
Rabin, the jailing of Leo Wanta, a very loyal U.S.
Treasury agent who was trying to do the right thing, Vince Foster, all these
murders.
Sure.
Kenneth Starr is CFR.
He's a dirty, stinking rat.
Okay, and you don't make any bones about it.
No, and we shouldn't.
We should call a spade a spade.
Kenneth Starr is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
He's a good buddy of Clinton, Dick Cheney, all those other criminals on the Council
on Foreign Relations.
Which group should be abolished?
In fact, it should be tried for high treason, and every one of them executed.
Just like the Royal Institute for International Affairs in England.
The papacy runs England through the RIIA, just as it does here through the CFR,
the Trilateral Commission.
Now, when you were talking to that Catholic lady, the question now arises,
how do you differentiate?
And I know, I just want you to explain this to our listeners, when people think
of the Jesuits, they think of a Catholic order.
They are anything but that.
That's correct.
Can you explain that and how we can differentiate between that?
And how far deep does this go into the Jesuit order?
I'm sure there are some priests in the Jesuit order that have no idea what's
going on at the top level.
Correct.
But explain this, and how this division is made.
Okay, to begin with, the Jesuit order is not subject to the Pope or any member of
the Roman hierarchy, bishop, archbishop, or cardinal.
Okay, I cut you short there, I didn't look at the clock, but we'll get back and
continue right after this break on the Investigative Journal.
Here on the radio, right here on the air, basically what I'm doing with Eric Phelps
is he's taking off the black cloth of the Jesuits right now.
He's exposing them for what he thinks they really are.
Eric, go ahead so people can understand what this order really is all about.
Okay, their secret worship is Luciferianism or Satanism.
In fact, I just discovered a piece out of Rene Fuller's great work, The Secret and
Power of the Jesuits, where the Jetson has portrayed the Jesuits as worshipping
Baphomet and Satan.
And they have an owl at the top of the picture.
And it's the very owl that's used at the Bohemian Grove, which the Jesuits
established in Northern California many years ago.
So they're Satanists, they're Luciferians, they're the Office of Skull and Bones.
The Jesuits are the ultimate Skull and Bones men, and the initiation of Skull and
Bones involves Madame de Pompadour, who they desecrate because she was the one
who motivated Louis XV to expel the Jesuits from France in 1767.
So the Jesuits are Luciferians, and they want to establish a one-world
government out of Jerusalem, out of the Third Hebrew Temple, where it will be the
worship of Satan.
And thus, they're merely using the papacy as a means to this end.
As they are involved also with their temporal, as you call them, coagitators in
our government and governments around the world.
Yes.
Is that the way you view it from your research?
Absolutely.
The temporal coagitators of America.
The trusted third party that Ignatius Loyola speaks of in his Secret
Instructions is the Council on Foreign Relations that was established in 1921,
with House and a few others.
In England, it's the Royal Institute for International Affairs that was founded in
1919.
And they have controlled England, Isaiah, and since George III.
So the Jesuits always have a trusted third party whereby they control the government.
Before their suppression, they always were the confessors or advisors to the kings
and queens and monarchs.
You know, if I may interrupt, it just came to me.
How did they get this type of obedience?
That's the secret of Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises.
In the spiritual exercises, what they essentially do is divest themselves of
every vestige of their own private free wills.
And completely and totally prostrate their free wills to their superior.
Telling all of their lives, all of their secret vices, all of their failures and
successes, so that with a look at their record, the Jesuit general or the superior
of the novice or whoever it might be, knows implicitly the life of this man.
And so they have learned this absolute obedience, as Ignatius Loyola called it,
to be obedient like the stick in the hand of an old man through the spiritual
exercises.
And as we move on, I just wanted to, right before we have a couple minutes
before the break, how deep does this go?
Because I know my first, when I first learned of the Jesuits, I was a high
school student going to Notre Dame High School under the Holy Cross Fathers from
Notre Dame.
And across town was Loyola High School with the Jesuits.
Now how deep does this go?
Only the higher level Jesuits in Rome?
How do they operate?
Remember that the Jesuit order is a military order, as Napoleon told us in his
memoirs.
And so they have a chain of command.
The general, the superior general, is in command of the lower generals.
And of course the superior general has his assistants.
Each assistant is in charge of an assistancy.
And there are presently 10 assistancies in the world.
And so these assistants then, underneath them, have what's called provincials.
And the provincials are subject then to the assistant.
In the United States, there are 10 provincials who then answer to the
assistant in Rome.
And the Jesuits have broken the world down into, I believe at this moment,
85 different regions.
85 provinces.
There's 10 regions in 85 provinces.
And therefore these 85 provincials are subject to their assistants.
And they file their monthly reports, and maybe even more often than that now,
so that the assistants in Rome know absolutely and completely every political,
financial, religious, social movement in that country so they can coordinate
together what they intend to do.
So it's absolute obedience.
It's a military organization.
It's a soldiership.
The Jesuit general is a general of a foreign power.
He's regarded as a sovereign of all sovereigns.
And thus, that's how it works.
And after the break, I want to get into your take on this immigration issue,
because we know the Catholic Church has supported this illegal immigration in our
country.
And I want to get your take on that.
So let's take a break right now.
We'll be back in three minutes.
According to my guest Eric Phelps, the Jesuits are a big part in why this
country is breaking up at the seams.
If you want to read more about what Eric has researched over the years,
this is incredible research work that he's done, trying to get at the bottom of
what's going on in our country, including things like the murder of John
F.
Kennedy, the relationships of many people in the Council on Foreign Relations,
Prescott Bush, George H.
Bush, all people who Eric Phelps describes as temporal coagulators of this feared
Jesuit order.
Go to www.VaticanAssassins.org and you can read all about that.
He has a new book coming out called Vatican Assassins, 3rd Edition.
It has some new information, and some of it we've done on this show in the last few
months.
Eric, I did want to get your take on the Catholic Church coming out in favor of the
immigration issue, which seems to be causing strife between the American people
and the illegal immigrants.
First of all, I try to use another term for those people coming in.
I call it an alien invasion.
The term immigrant implies some legality.
But what they're doing is, it goes back to even farther than Naftan Gat, which the
Knights of Malta were very much in favor of, especially Lea Iacocca, when he came
to Clinton and encouraged him to sign that.
And of course, Lea Iacocca was a Knight of Malta and was involved in the Kennedy
assassination.
But with Naftan Gat, that has aided to the destruction of Mexican industries.
And so the Jesuits, remembering that they hated Mexico, that they hated Benito
Juarez, they hated Carlos, because Carlos had expelled the Jesuits in the 1920s and
did everything he could to release his country from the death grip of the
Jesuits.
So it seems to be payback time for the Mexicans now.
And so their industries, their infrastructure has been ruined,
the Jesuits' Rockefeller empire has confiscated their oil, taken their natural
resources, and thus these Mexican-Roman Catholic people are now being encouraged
with this Aslan movement for the retaking of the Southwest.
And so they're coming in by the millions, encouraged by that high-level Freemason
Vincente Fox, who was a former head of Coca-Cola down there in Mexico,
in conjunction with his brother Mason, George Bush.
And so they're working together to promote this invasion.
Now the question is why?
Well, it's the Aslan movement openly, but I also believe that this is going to
justify the round-up of these aliens and putting them in concentration camps.
And we have somewhat 400 or 600 concentration camps already in place,
and so this will be a justification to begin to use them as arresting these
illegal aliens coming into the country.
So I think that's one of the major purposes.
The other purpose is to unite the white Roman Catholic peoples with the white
historic Protestant peoples together.
It serves an ecumenical purpose to drive them all into a right-wing fascist
position that is espoused by Fox News Network and those Jesuits that control
that operation.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Is there anything else you want to add, or does that pretty well cover it?
So that pretty well covers it.
I believe that's their purpose.
And the Roman hierarchy is totally behind it.
McCarrick of Washington, D.C., Roger Mahoney of Los Angeles, they're all
behind it because this is exactly what they want.
The overthrow of the U.S.
Constitution, the declaration of martial law, the opening of the camps,
and the resident illegal aliens in this country will justify that move.
Let's move on then to something else.
I wanted to get back to the way you view...
you know, you've described the Jesuit order gaining this obedience from all
their temporal coagulators, as you call them, as the ultimate chameleons.
And what you mean by that is they can put on any government face, can put on any
cloth from any religion, blend in, and basically destroy it from within.
Absolutely.
In fact, I just found a quote in a book written in 1916.
It's a little paragraph.
May I read that to you?
Sure.
Okay, a quote.
This is from Watchman.
He's an anonymous English Calvinist and patriot.
He wrote a book called Rome and Germany, the Plot for the Downfall of Britain,
written in 1916.
By means of these secret agents occupying positions of more or less importance in
every order and rank of society and in every office in the state, the Jesuits are
able, by combined action, to powerfully influence public opinion and even direct
the policy of the country.
For these agents are to be found not only in the churches and religious bodies,
but in the schools, in the army and the navy, in the working men's clubs,
which are the unions, in the press, in parliament, and perhaps even in the
cabinet.
Our most deadly enemies are those who exist secretly in our midst.
And that's what they've done here.
Yeah, and I mean, if we just talked about, let's put aside the word Jesuit right now,
and we started saying, you know, George, how many people are calling George
W.
Bush a traitor?
How many people are calling people in our government treasonous?
How many people cannot believe the laws they're passing, which do not reflect the
views of Americans?
This has to come from somewhere.
I mean, and again, when you use the word chameleon, and then you put in the Jesuit
factor here, add in Georgetown and all the other things you said they control,
give us a real flavor of their power in this country right now, if you could,
in the next ten minutes.
Well, they control all the politics.
They control every state capital from here in Harrisburg and Pennsylvania to
Sacramento and California, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, through that Roman
Catholic high-level papal knight, subject to the provincial Thomas Schmaltz,
who's also a good friend of Warren Buffett.
They control Washington, D.C., and have controlled Washington,
D.C., since no later than the assassination of Lincoln, because it was
Jesuit Bernard of Wigan that did it, and orchestrated it all through John
Seward and others.
The Jesuits control the Federal Reserve Bank.
It's run by the Knights of Malta, controlling the Class A stockholders,
Chase Manhattan Bank, Morgan Guarantee.
In fact, Morgan in New York is a direct telex to the Vatican.
They control all your notorious religions, all your historic Protestant churches via
Freemasonry.
They're all apostate.
They're all on the National Council, all the World Council of Churches,
and they control all your Romanism, all your Roman Catholicism, regardless of
the orders, because those orders must be submitted to them.
They control all your higher institutions of learning, all your major universities,
because they have a party line there that you cannot deviate from.
If you're a professor, you will be expelled if you're not a socialist.
So, they are the masters behind your education, economics, politics,
religion, and when you have that, you have just about every vehicle.
The American Medical Association, the American Bar Association, all
controlled by the Jesuit Order.
Incredible.
And I know, what do they do, basically?
We talk a lot about all these murder for hires in our government.
I mean, this goes on and on and on.
I just received an email recently, since the 80s, over 100 scientists and
biologists killed.
And there's some really interesting correlations between what they're
researching in biological warfare and their deaths in strange circumstances.
So, what do the Jesuits basically... they basically kill people who do not agree
with them, or find out, or try to go against them?
Okay, the Black Pope, the Jesuit General, controls the international banking
community.
With that international banking community, he also controls the international drug
trade.
With the international drug trade and banking community, he controls all the
intelligence agencies.
They all work together at the top.
From the KGB, or the SBR, to the CIA, to the Mossad, to the Pakistani ISI,
German BND, British SIS, MI5, MI6.
They all work together at the top, because at the top are Knights of Malta,
who run it.
And so then, they have... in addition to that, they control all organized crime.
They control the Sicilian Mafia.
They control the Russian Mafia.
They control the Japanese Yakuza.
They control all the Mafia in this all-organized crime.
And therefore, they have a host of assassins that they can choose to use,
if they decide on a piece of business, to eliminate somebody who is truly giving
them a problem.
And virtually, a crime that's... if you control the investigation, just as we see
in every one of these murder-for-hires, if you control the investigation,
you basically can get away with murder.
That's correct.
Just like David Ferry said in the movie JFK, they're untouchable.
The only one who can touch them is God.
And therefore, that's who we need to seek His help and meet Him on His terms.
And then, once we would do that, then hopefully, the Lord would put in the
heart of one of these popes to suppress the Jesuit order, as He did in 1773.
And when the Jesuit order is formally suppressed and extinguished, it has no
legal authority to function.
Now, it may well foment a huge war, like it did the French Revolution,
Napoleonic Wars, but at least it's formally suppressed.
And in this country, they're deeply embedded in what, Georgetown University?
How many universities do they own in this country?
Okay, they have 28 major universities in this country.
50% of all your Roman Catholic institutions of higher learning are in the
United States.
The United States is their major springboard of attack in reducing the
world and all the governments of the world to submit to the temple power of the Pope.
So, if the Jesuits were expelled from the United States, that would be a great blow
for liberty and freedom, not only here, but in the world.
And, I know, when you say things like that, I'm thinking about what that lady
said to you back when you were giving that speech in Nevada, I think it was.
How have you stayed safe?
If I know you're basically, if anyone tries, for example, I know that Jesuits or
some people try to criticize you heavily, they try to attack you in certain ways,
and you are very steadfast in your research and your work, and you do not
allow them, basically, to get the best of you.
I guess that's the best way to put it.
How do you confront someone that is basically trying to undermine what you're
doing?
Well, what I do is, I try never to have an ad hominem attack until I'm forced to,
until they force me to it.
What I do is I put forward all the information that I have, some key quotes
from some very key people in history, and ask them to reconsider their position.
And if they don't want to reconsider their position in light of past suppressions and
their present power, then I am forced to debate with them, if they will debate with
me, if they will not debate with me, or have me on their show, then I'm calling
them openly Jesuit Temporal Collagitors.
And if they want me to withdraw the charge, then they can either host somebody
to deal with the Jesuit order, or begin to attack them themselves in
showing the works that they've done.
And I think your motives here are, there's no anti-Catholic motives.
You've said that a number of times on this show.
And your motives are pure, in a sense, where you want to see our country
restored.
That's correct.
If I was anti-Catholic, I would have never written a book to defend President Kennedy
and his Jesuit assassination, carried out by many high-level prostitute Protestant
Freemasons like J.
Edgar Hoover and others.
So yes, I'm not anti-Roman Catholic people, I am anti-Pope, anti-his doctrines
of infallibility and temple power, anti-Roman hierarchy, anti-Jesuit general
and his Jesuit order that seeks to rule the world and deprive what God has
established, and that national sovereignty for nations is key to nations living
peacefully with one another.
You know what I think would be interesting here again to do this?
You've said something through your research which was very interesting to
think about, and that is how they control both sides of most every war that you can
think back of.
Let's start in the World War II and bring it up in the next few minutes here,
and then we have a break a few minutes after that.
Bring up how they controlled World War II, both sides of the war, and then how
they're doing it now in the Middle East.
With regard to the Allied Powers, the Jesuits controlled Winston Churchill,
they controlled Joseph Stalin, they controlled FDR, and those are the
major Allied Powers that controlled those three.
With regard to the Axis, they controlled Hirohito.
I just finished a piece in my third edition on Hirohito.
They controlled Adolf Hitler, they controlled Benito Mussolini, and of course
they controlled all of Hitler's puppets throughout Eastern Europe.
So they controlled both factions, and then, here's the intrigue of it all.
Then they coordinate these factions together to accomplish what they want to
accomplish.
For example, when Hitler as a General was ready to destroy the British, Dunkirk,
all of a sudden Hitler issues the order to stop.
And this stop order allows the British to escape.
Now of course, you and your listeners know that when you're in war, you want to kill
and annihilate the enemy, because as soon as you do that, the war is over.
Well, this was not done.
In the invasion of Normandy, on D-Day, when that happened, General Patton said
that the war would be over in ten days, because shortly thereafter, they had the
Germans surrounded in the Palais pocket in France.
And Patton went to Eisenhower to request permission to close the Palais pocket.
There's stories in a book called Battle of the Generals.
And Eisenhower would not allow him to close that pocket.
Therefore, 250,000 German soldiers escaped.
And a little heart writes in his book with regard to the war, he didn't know why the
Americans allowed that to happen, because that secured the Battle of the
Bulge.
Well, why would they want to extend the war into 1945?
Because the majority of your Jews were killed in the concentration camps from
June 1944 to April 1945.
They had more Jews to kill in the East.
So there are things like this that happened.
In the Battle of Anzio, we see the same thing.
There were Jews, they had to get the Jews out of Rome to take them to Auschwitz.
So therefore, Anzio had to be fought, and Patton was relieved of his command in
Sicily.
Otherwise, if he was in charge of U.S.
forces, he would have went straight to Rome, and they would not have killed all
the Jews and sent them to Auschwitz with SS General Wolff there.
So they coordinate both sides together majestically, and that's exactly what
they're going to do now.
With the Muslim leaders and the Anglo-American leaders.
Well, I might add, just to make it clear, and you're saying through your research
that they're able to, and what you've said before, they're able to infiltrate these
groups and get these higher powers all playing the same card game, all working
with them, correct?
That's correct.
Basically selling out their country and their religions.
That's correct.
Okay.
Listen, we're going to take a break, maybe take a call, finish up.
I want to get your take on the Middle East and the Jesuit influence.
We'll be back in three minutes on the Investigative Journal with Eric Phelps.
One thing, Eric, can you stay about 15 minutes after the hour?
If you'd like me to.
Okay, yeah.
We'll hold you about 15 minutes longer than we planned.
But let me get back to this.
I wanted to get to your take now on the Middle East, how they're setting us up for
what many consider to be the World War III.
Well, I believe that what the Jesuits are doing is what they did in World War II
when they used Germany.
I believe the same program they had, they implemented for Germany, they're
going to do here.
Therefore, as the German army was used to invade Russia, and its purpose was to
annihilate the Orthodox population, but never to overthrow Joseph Stalin,
which Hitler made sure that did not happen.
Even so, it is now.
The purpose of the American military to be in the Middle East, in these Muslim
nations, I believe, is that it is a war of annihilation against the Muslim peoples.
And this is going to continue along with the destruction of the mosques,
because the Jesuits used the Germans to destroy many, many Orthodox churches in
Russia.
So, as they're destroying the mosques and the Muslim people, they are also,
I believe, going to destroy Mecca and Medina.
And blame that on the American military, because the Bin Laden Construction Company
are the only ones who would get near those mosques.
Therefore, since Bin Laden is a member of the Carlyle Group with the Bushes,
it only makes sense that they would be given certain mini-nukes or some type of
pulse weapon to put in those mosques and ultimately take them out about the time
some American bombers or fighters are flying overhead.
So, they're going to blame the destruction of the Mecca and Medina mosques,
as well as the mosques in Jerusalem, on the U.S.
And when that happens, then they will declare a complete and total holy war
against us that will never end as long as there's a Muslim on the face of this
earth.
And that will ultimately result, I believe, in the deliberate sacrifice of
our military by our military high command, controlled by the Jesuits through
Georgetown and the CFR.
And then once our military is sacrificed, we will be invaded as Germany was invaded,
and our country will be partitioned.
And that will be the end of what was once historically white Anglo-Saxon,
Protestant, Western civilization.
And the line-up is now, if you look at what's going on in the news, Russia,
China have aligned with the Middle East.
With Iran.
Which means that they would be very angry at us for going over there, giving them a
reason to invade our borders, correct?
Correct.
I call it in my book, the Sino-Soviet-Muslim invasion.
But there's also the possibility, I've been entertaining recently with some
people, see what you think.
Remember that Hitler and Stalin divided Poland, and then later Hitler attacked
Poland, and later their enemies, Stalin and Hitler, are supposedly openly
enemies, which of course they weren't, they worked a whole duration of the war
together.
But, that could very well happen with the Muslim world, that the U.S.
for a while, be allied with Russia.
Because, Putin's a knight of Malta.
And so, they could, the Jesuits could decide an alliance, a temporary alliance
between Russia and the U.S.
to do lots of killing in the Middle East, but then ultimately Russia turn against
us, and they'd be invaded.
Okay, listen, stay with us after this break, I want to take a couple calls,
and we'll be back with Eric Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins.
The ultimate deception being played right before our very eyes, and we're listening
to Eric Phelps' research into how America's gotten into the position it's in
now.
I mean, we're really, we see on a daily basis our liberties taken away,
we see the dollar devalued, we see everything happening, our government
basically run on, with a bunch of liars and thieves, who are showing themselves
daily, if you look closely at exactly what they're doing.
Eric Phelps' research has now uncovered some startling things to many people,
for people who have researched this before, it's not so startling,
but all goes back to the Vatican, the Black Pope, the Jesuit Order,
and its minions throughout the world who are bringing about another major war.
Let me take a call, Carson in Canada, you're on the Investigative Journal.
Hi, Greg, it's a pleasure to talk to you, I enjoy your show.
Well, thank you, and we've kept Eric here, so hopefully you have a question.
Yes, I have a quick question for Eric.
The Jesuits must have a lobby in Washington, D.C., who represents the
Jesuits?
The Jesuits have what's called a Jesuit conference, where they make known their
wishes through that.
For example, they've already condemned gun ownership, and a few other things,
but they really use the Roman hierarchy to put forth what they want in Washington.
Well, unlike the Zionist lobby, who are very front and center,
and very in the face with all their political affiliations, they're really
obvious.
So, are you saying the Jesuits don't have an obvious lobby?
I'm saying that they do have what's called a Jesuit conference, which they do lobby
there, and there are Jesuits daily in Washington, but with regard to the
Zionists, the Jesuits rule the Zionists.
They've controlled the Zionists since their inception back in the late 1800s,
and they run the government of Israel.
Yes, you mentioned the Jesuits during World War II in Germany.
I don't remember any of the history I read where the Jesuits had a separate flag
flying in World War II Germany, where the Zionists did.
Well, the Jesuits controlled Himmler.
Himmler designed the SS after the Jesuit order.
Himmler was a very powerful individual in Bavaria, and he was put in that office by
Michael Cardinal von Fallhaber, who was the Archbishop of Munich,
and thus he was probably 200 yards away from the Jesuit Church of St. Michael
there in Munich.
So the whole Third Reich was birthed out of Bavaria, and the Jesuits ruled Bavaria.
So the Jesuits are not seeking a country of their own like the Zionists have done,
and have wreaked a lot of havoc on the world, as the Zionists have.
Carson, if I could just say... Carson, this is Greg Szymanski.
Carson, are you there?
Hi.
Oh, hi.
I just want to add something here, just from my point of view, from some of
the research I've done.
There's a point in this discussion here where we have to understand that the
Jesuits do not openly...
what you're talking about is a group who work under the table, so to speak.
They don't let their intentions be known, according to Eric Phelps and other
researchers.
They basically are the ultimate chameleons.
So they're not going to fly a flag.
They're not going to tell you who they are.
They may be a Catholic, but yet be a Satanist.
They may say they're a Jew, and they're a Satanist.
Basically, what they do is they hide behind the cloth.
And we'll get back.
I've got to take a break.
You stay on there, Carson.
And Eric, you come back.
We've got a whole bunch of callers I want to get to.
We'll extend this a little longer.
We'll be back in three minutes on the Investigative Journal.
...assassins.
He's going to stick with us.
We've got a whole bunch of callers I want to get to.
Carson, I'm sorry I interrupted you there.
I wanted to get your point across, so go right ahead.
Okay, Eric, I'd like to come at this, what I'm trying to say, at a little
different angle, if I may.
I'm thinking of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, who is Jewish.
He's skull and bones.
Pardon?
He's skull and bones.
Yeah, well, his parents are Jewish, and his wife is Jewish, and his younger
brother is married to a Jewish woman.
Okay?
I really, really think the influence of Israel on the North American continent,
including Canada, is way out of proportion to what it should be.
I just want to say, do you feel there's a conspiracy by the Israeli Jewish people to
overdo their influence in our way of life?
I believe that the Jews that we see are the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists.
They're loaded all throughout the CFR, and also in Canada.
But the average Jewish people, they're not out to overthrow our way of
life.
We have to look at their leaders, like Bronfman and others.
They're the ones that are controlled by the papacy, and thus they are controlled
by the Jesuits.
Yes.
Can you offer any place where one could research this, that the Jesuits have such
influence in our life?
Yes, you can.
There's a couple books apart from mine.
You can get Edmund Paris' great works, The Vatican Against Europe.
You can get his Secret History of the Jesuits.
Grisinger wrote a tremendous two-volume set called The Jesuits, The History of the
Orders Told to the German People.
In fact, there's a group called the Bank of Wisdom, if you get on the internet.
And even though it's an atheistic group, they put a CD together, composing all
these tremendous books on the Jesuits on CD, called bankofwisdom.com, I believe.
And there, if you get their CD, you can get a pretty good History of the
Order, apart from my book, if you ever wanted to get that when it comes out.
And Carson, I imagine you can go to www .VaticanAssassins.org and get some
information there.
Thanks a lot, Carson.
I've got to move on.
Carl, in Oklahoma, you're on the Investigative Journal.
Yes, Greg.
Thank you for taking my call.
Okay, go ahead.
Nice to have you.
Eric, as to the black popes, they are listed in the several prophecies.
I'm sure you're aware of the prophecies.
No, I'm not.
Well, one of the major black popes that they just put in is Negroponte.
Well, there's no doubt.
His name is Negra, meaning the Negro or the black, and Ponte means the pontificate
or the pope.
John Negroponte is a very evil, wicked individual.
I believe he's a book and snake.
He's a member of the CFR and most assuredly serves the Jesuit Order.
Yes.
I left my number with the producer, and if you can please give me a call after
the show, I have some critical information for you that I wish you could consider.
I would love to talk with you.
Also, if you can do a computer search on John's website there, RBN website,
and look at Eric Williams' website, and go to his website, you'll see a list
of a conference call that we do on Thursday nights.
Eric Williams, okay.
Yes.
He has a show at 11 a.m.
until noon on RBN.
On RBN, okay.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
You guys have a great day, and I thank you both for what you're doing for the world,
because we are at the end times.
Thank you, Carl.
I'm going to move right on.
John in California.
John, are you there?
Yes.
Go ahead.
You're on the Investigative Journal.
Yeah, and your guest name is Eric?
Eric Phelps, yes.
Eric, are you online?
Yes, I am, John.
What's your website?
It's www.VaticanAssassins.org.
VaticanAssassins.org?
.com is theirs, .org is mine.
Okay, I got part of that.
I didn't know if it was .org or .com or whatever.
.org.
I just wanted to ask you a question.
Sure.
Have you ever read Dr. John Coleman's work?
He wrote a book called The Committee of 300.
Yes, very good book.
I believe you're right on point with a lot of the things you're talking about.
But I wanted to ask you how you felt about his, if you take a pyramid, the Jesuits
were really, weren't they just pretty much a strong arm of the New World Order?
Well, there...
When he mentions names, that's really a good source if anybody wanted to read
that.
When I read it, I liked it very well.
In fact, he brought out a fact I hadn't known, and that was that Joseph Redinger,
who was a high-level Freemason and a Jesuit, was the founder of the
Bilderbergers.
So, John Coleman has put out some very good information.
I believe The Committee of 300, though, is at the top of Masonic,
not of Malta, and they're controlled ultimately by the Vatican to the Black
Pope.
Right.
Now, do you think that the Vatican pretty much controls the industrialists,
the bankers, the powers that be?
Absolutely, absolutely.
And the wealthiest men in the world are Gentiles, not Jews.
The way he explains it in the book, he feels like most of the royal families
in Europe are at the top of the pyramid, not the Vatican.
See, I would defer with him on that, on the basis of Revelation 17-18,
that the woman which thou sawest is a great city, which remains the kings of the
earth, which is indeed Rome.
But Rome controls all the black nobility, all the nobles, through their secret
societies, that's right.
He didn't use a whole lot of scripture reference, especially in Revelation,
to the order that he showed in his book.
It was mostly his own experience, I guess he was in counter-intelligence
with the British.
He was British intelligence, I believe, yes.
Israel.
And Greg, I'd like to ask you a question.
Sure, go right ahead.
I just wonder if you ever heard, you know, he kind of disappeared about,
or maybe even you, Eric, if he's still alive.
I don't know, you know, he was supposed to be...
I haven't heard from him, or used to be...
I don't know what happened to John.
The first time I ever heard him was, I believe, on John Stabmiller's program a
long, long time ago, probably six years ago.
Well, I don't know either.
I'll ask John, though.
Maybe he knows where he's at.
Right.
Okay, anything else?
Thank you very much for both of you guys doing what you're doing.
All right, thank you.
I want to get to Charles in Texas.
Charles, you're on the Investigative Journal.
Hello, men.
Mr. Phelps, how is your book going to be available?
Is it going to be strictly through the Internet?
No, there'll be some people selling it.
My old publisher will be offering it first in CD.
And hopefully a gentleman has offered to find me some money for the first printing.
But it'll be first on CD.
Is it still going to be in May?
Well, I'm shooting for June 1st.
June 1st.
Also, I know you talk about Masonic and Jesuit involvement in racial instigation
here in America.
Do you think they're involved with these illegal immigration protests that are
going on right now?
Absolutely.
It's the whole Aslan movement that the Jesuits are backing for the purpose of
taking back the Southwest, reuniting it with Mexico.
And it is very much Masonic and very much backed by the Roman hierarchy.
Just like all the racial agitation between the blacks and the whites and so on.
All done by the Jesuits to divide the peoples for the purpose of having internal
insurrection and revolution that further justifies martial law.
I was looking on the Aslan website and half of it is anti-Israel and pro-PLO.
See, that's a sign it's Jesuit controlled.
They're also anti-white Anglo-Saxon Protestants.
Look for that too.
Have you ever heard of a book called Malcolm X's Last Speeches?
Yes.
Edited by a guy named Bruce Perry?
I haven't heard of the book, but I've never read it.
I've read through it and Malcolm X talks about how the Ku Klux Klan, how Elijah
Muhammad once brought in James Venable, a Ku Klux Klan lawyer to represent the
Nation of Islam in rural Louisiana.
Yeah.
Malcolm X, who is the one I have the utmost respect for, I devote two pages to
in my book.
He was the one who said the Nation of Islam and the Ku Klux Klan have the same
paymasters.
It also said that the Ku Klux Klan was going to give the Nation of Islam land in
the Carolinas or Georgia.
Georgia.
They've already done it.
They've given them farms.
That's right.
They work together.
Very interesting.
I've been a fan of yours for a while.
I've been waiting to talk to you for a long time, but thank you.
My pleasure.
All right.
Eric, I'll tell you something.
I've kept you longer than you were planning, but let me mention something.
I have my last guest, and I just wanted to mention this to you.
I thought you might be interested.
I'm going to do a segment with a person who is called a Du Plessis orphan.
This is a story that goes back to CIA mind control programs, use of illegal drugs on
children.
There are thousands of these children now surfacing.
It's interesting that they come from Catholic orphanages who basically were
working together with the government, changing these innocent children.
My guest is Pierre Sampson today, who at six years old was in a Catholic
orphanage.
Overnight, he was considered insane and used in mind control and drug experiments.
Just another side shoot of how perhaps this infiltration of the church has been
going on for a long, long time.
This was back in the 50s when this started.
Do you want me to comment on that?
Yeah, I just wanted you to comment on that.
My understanding of that is that the Jesuits, of course, had put together the
SS.
And the SS was like the Jesuit order within the Third Reich, policing the party
and policing the armies and most everything else.
But at the end of the war, the Vatican enabled the high officers of the SS,
including Heinrich Himmler, to escape and got them out through the Vatican rat lines
and brought them into the US.
And then a couple of years later, in 1947, created the Central Intelligence
Agency, which was a continuation of the SS.
Out of the CIA, you have MKUltra and these horrible experiments.
Okay, Eric.
Well, thanks a lot for being with us.
We'll have you on again.
And I need to take a break.
That was Eric Phelps.
That was Eric Phelps, author of Vatican's Assassins.