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Before I get to my guest, author of
Vatican Assassins, Eric Phelps,

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let me tie this story into what Eric is
going to be talking about.

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When Leo Wanton, let me just make a
correction, when I said black account,

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the account that Leo Wanton got the $250
million dollars wasn't the black account.

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It was the black account that the $250
million ended up with, that's never been

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accounted for, that Foster carried over
from Switzerland.

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Now the interesting part of this story is
that Leo Wanton was trying to do the right

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thing.

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He was trying to get the money,
he always has tried to get over $27

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trillion dollars back to the American
people, even to this day.

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And he has been unsuccessful due to the
fact that at this moment when Foster was

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sent back to the States, that was July 7th
or 8th, before he was killed on July 20th,

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1993.

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Wanton was put in a dungeon in
Switzerland, and guess who tried to save

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him?

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A gentleman by the name of Itzhak Rabin
sent a letter and tried to get him out.

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When the corrupt people in Switzerland
heard Itzhak Rabin was on his way to help

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Leo Wanton, Leo Wanton was taken in chains
and sent to America before Rabin could get

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there.

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Now, Itzhak Rabin was killed in 1995.

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Now I'm looking at a photo on Vatican
Assassins website, and it's a photo of Leo

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Rabin in 1995 with Pope John Paul II.

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Now, let me read to you what Eric Phelps
says about this photo, and then we're

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going to get to Eric about some really
interesting things that have come up since

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we last talked to him.

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He says this, this photo taken from
November 13th, 2000 edition of the

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Pittsburgh Tribune Review depicts the late
Leo Rabin in 1995, following her private

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audience at the Vatican with the greatest
accomplice to her husband's, that's Itzhak

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Rabin, who was trying to help Mr. Wanton,
cold-blooded murder the infallible Pope

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John Paul II.

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The Mossad and the arm of the Jesuit
General's international intelligence

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community carried out the assassination as
the disobedient Freemason and Prime

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Minister Itzhak Rabin opposed Rome's
policy for Zionist Israel.

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For the Jesuits will never allow any
portion of the old city of Jerusalem to be

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given to the Muslims, especially the
Palestinians, controlled by the order

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through Arafat.

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Indeed.

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And Eric says this, the arm of the church
is long.

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Eric Phelps, how are you today?

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Pleased to be with you, Greg.

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Thank you for having me.

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And that is quite a quote, quite a
picture, and quite, the church's arm is

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very long.

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Tell us again, just to refresh our
listeners' memories, you've been with us

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before, and tell us why you feel if we
want to stop the new world order,

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one good step is to remove the Jesuits
from American soil.

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Absolutely right.

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They've been suppressed and expelled at
least 80 times in their past, from since

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their inception in 1540 to the present.

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The most powerful nations of Europe have
expelled them, especially the Roman

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Catholic nations of France, Portugal,
and Spain in the 1700s.

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And Britain had expelled them many times.

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France has expelled them, I've counted,
no less than 8 times.

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Germany expelled them in 1872,
and Russia expelled them in 1820,

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until they were formally readmitted by
Lenin in 1922.

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So, the Jesuits have been expelled as a
matter of state policy, not as a matter of

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their religion, in that they are always
dabbling in politics seeking to control

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the state.

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And the ultimate expulsion was Pope
Clement XIV's papal bull of suppression

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and extinction, Dominic Agriadaptor
Noster, that he signed in 1773,

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which officially did away with the Jesuit
order.

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Now, can you tell us how, just in a quick
recap before we get into some other

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interesting points, just how the Jesuits
have infiltrated and have a working

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relationship with people like the Knights
of Malta, the Shriners, the Freemasons,

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the Knights of Columbus, and other groups.

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How does this work after your research,
after you've done extensive research into

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this?

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Okay, with regard to the Knights of Malta,
the Jesuits control the Pope, the Black

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Pope controls the White Pope, the Black
Pope being Peter Hans Kollenbach,

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the White Pope being Pope Benedict XVI.

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The Pope then controls the Knights of
Malta, in that the Grand Master of the

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Knights of Malta is a Cardinal,
and he was conferred that status by Leo

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XIII around 1878.

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The Jesuits control, again, the papacy,
and thus they control the Knights of

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Columbus through the papacy.

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The Jesuits wrote all the high rites of
Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

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They wrote the first 25 rites in the
College of Clermont in Paris, France in

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1754, according to my Masonic book,
Ask Me Another Brother, a Masonic quiz

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book.

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And so they wrote the first 25 degrees of
Scottish Rite, and then they wrote the

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last eight degrees when they were
protected by Frederick the Great when they

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were expelled and suppressed by the Pope.

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So they created the Council of the 33rd
Degree, and thus control all high-level

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Freemasonry.

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In fact, Leo XIII's Secretary of State,
Cardinal Rumpala, was a member of the

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high-level Masonic OTO, Order of Oriental
Templars, the same as was Aleister

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Crowley.

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So the Jesuits control Freemasonry,
not through the papacy, but directly

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through the Black Pope himself via the
Illuminati and other secret societies,

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and then they control the Roman Catholic
Brotherhoods through the Pope and thus his

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hierarchy.

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How would you say they went about... one
of the things that I've read that you've

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researched is that one of their main goals
was to infiltrate the Catholic Church.

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They knew they had to do this in order to
reach their goal with their other minions,

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and that means the goal of the New World
Order, to take over the world.

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Tell us how, I guess, they began this.

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When did this begin, and what is the
present situation in the Vatican?

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Okay, the Jesuit Order is the spearhead,
or the backbone, behind the

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Counter-Reformation.

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And therefore, the purpose of the Order
was to thwart the Reformation,

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bring it to naught, and then after that,
bringing a Pope of their power,

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a Pope of their control, to ruling the
world through the Third Hebrew Temple to

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be rebuilt in Jerusalem.

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That's always been their plan.

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And so, they have had success in the past,
but been suppressed in the past.

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And really, to know their power now,
we have to go back to their formal

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re-institution by the 7th and 1814,
when they were revived and created fresh,

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or actually brought back into power,
but nothing had ever changed.

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And so, from 1815 to the present,
that's probably the most important period

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of history for us to review and know
about.

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Okay, and I'll bring it up to today's
situation, so people can understand how it

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works there.

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And I just want to add something.

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When I was there, I used to work in Rome,
and I worked as a freelance reporter.

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And I was talking to people back about 20
years ago, regarding the same subject.

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And the same subject came up there,
and the Italian people and some people

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that were researching it were very clear
that there was some group, headed by the

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Black Pope, controlling the Vatican.

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And that was 20 years ago.

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So, tell us a little bit about the
situation that exists in modern-day Rome.

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Well, without a doubt, the Black Pope
rules the Vatican.

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He rules the Pope, he rules the hierarchy,
he rules the Curia.

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His headquarters is Borghese Santo Spirito
No.

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5, outside of Vatican Walls.

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And thus, although he controls different
factions, because within the papacy,

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you don't have a total unity of orders and
individuals.

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So, he controls the factions, or he brings
about the success of certain factions

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while affording others.

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But ultimately, at the very pinnacle of
power stands the Jesuits and his

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assistants, and they enter in control of
the papacy.

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And in fact, when I spoke in Nevada
several years ago, there was a Roman

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Catholic woman there, and she said to me,
I want to know why you're still alive.

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And I said, well, I just believe the Lord
is sovereign, he'll take care of me,

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and when he's finished with me,
then he will allow the Jesuits to kill me,

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as long as I keep personal sin out of my
life and I seek to be obedient to him.

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And she says, I want you to know that in
the Catholic Church I went to for years,

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that when the Jesuits ever came,
our priests were all scared to death and

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had the nervous sweats.

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Yeah, I mean, that's a question.

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I mean, you make no bones about it.

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You've done the research, and I know
you're not talking just from the top of

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your head here.

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You've researched this issue, and I know
your heart is in the right place to get at

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the bottom of this evil that's taken over
in our government.

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We can see it.

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And in the stories I just mentioned at the
outset of the show, the killing of Itzhak

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Rabin, the jailing of Leo Wanta,
a very loyal U.S.

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Treasury agent who was trying to do the
right thing, Vince Foster, all these

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murders.

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Sure.

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Kenneth Starr is CFR.

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He's a dirty, stinking rat.

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Okay, and you don't make any bones about
it.

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No, and we shouldn't.

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We should call a spade a spade.

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Kenneth Starr is a member of the Council
on Foreign Relations.

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He's a good buddy of Clinton, Dick Cheney,
all those other criminals on the Council

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on Foreign Relations.

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Which group should be abolished?

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In fact, it should be tried for high
treason, and every one of them executed.

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Just like the Royal Institute for
International Affairs in England.

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The papacy runs England through the RIIA,
just as it does here through the CFR,

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the Trilateral Commission.

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Now, when you were talking to that
Catholic lady, the question now arises,

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how do you differentiate?

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And I know, I just want you to explain
this to our listeners, when people think

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of the Jesuits, they think of a Catholic
order.

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They are anything but that.

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That's correct.

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Can you explain that and how we can
differentiate between that?

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And how far deep does this go into the
Jesuit order?

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I'm sure there are some priests in the
Jesuit order that have no idea what's

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going on at the top level.

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Correct.

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But explain this, and how this division is
made.

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Okay, to begin with, the Jesuit order is
not subject to the Pope or any member of

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the Roman hierarchy, bishop, archbishop,
or cardinal.

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Okay, I cut you short there, I didn't look
at the clock, but we'll get back and

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continue right after this break on the
Investigative Journal.

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Here on the radio, right here on the air,
basically what I'm doing with Eric Phelps

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is he's taking off the black cloth of the
Jesuits right now.

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He's exposing them for what he thinks they
really are.

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Eric, go ahead so people can understand
what this order really is all about.

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Okay, their secret worship is
Luciferianism or Satanism.

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In fact, I just discovered a piece out of
Rene Fuller's great work, The Secret and

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Power of the Jesuits, where the Jetson has
portrayed the Jesuits as worshipping

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Baphomet and Satan.

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And they have an owl at the top of the
picture.

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And it's the very owl that's used at the
Bohemian Grove, which the Jesuits

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established in Northern California many
years ago.

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So they're Satanists, they're Luciferians,
they're the Office of Skull and Bones.

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The Jesuits are the ultimate Skull and
Bones men, and the initiation of Skull and

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Bones involves Madame de Pompadour,
who they desecrate because she was the one

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who motivated Louis XV to expel the
Jesuits from France in 1767.

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So the Jesuits are Luciferians,
and they want to establish a one-world

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government out of Jerusalem, out of the
Third Hebrew Temple, where it will be the

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worship of Satan.

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And thus, they're merely using the papacy
as a means to this end.

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As they are involved also with their
temporal, as you call them, coagitators in

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our government and governments around the
world.

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Yes.

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Is that the way you view it from your
research?

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Absolutely.

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The temporal coagitators of America.

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The trusted third party that Ignatius
Loyola speaks of in his Secret

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Instructions is the Council on Foreign
Relations that was established in 1921,

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with House and a few others.

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In England, it's the Royal Institute for
International Affairs that was founded in

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1919.

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And they have controlled England,
Isaiah, and since George III.

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So the Jesuits always have a trusted third
party whereby they control the government.

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Before their suppression, they always were
the confessors or advisors to the kings

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and queens and monarchs.

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You know, if I may interrupt, it just came
to me.

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How did they get this type of obedience?

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That's the secret of Ignatius Loyola's
spiritual exercises.

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In the spiritual exercises, what they
essentially do is divest themselves of

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every vestige of their own private free
wills.

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And completely and totally prostrate their
free wills to their superior.

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Telling all of their lives, all of their
secret vices, all of their failures and

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successes, so that with a look at their
record, the Jesuit general or the superior

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of the novice or whoever it might be,
knows implicitly the life of this man.

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And so they have learned this absolute
obedience, as Ignatius Loyola called it,

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to be obedient like the stick in the hand
of an old man through the spiritual

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exercises.

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And as we move on, I just wanted to,
right before we have a couple minutes

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before the break, how deep does this go?

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Because I know my first, when I first
learned of the Jesuits, I was a high

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school student going to Notre Dame High
School under the Holy Cross Fathers from

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Notre Dame.

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And across town was Loyola High School
with the Jesuits.

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Now how deep does this go?

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Only the higher level Jesuits in Rome?

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How do they operate?

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Remember that the Jesuit order is a
military order, as Napoleon told us in his

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memoirs.

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And so they have a chain of command.

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The general, the superior general,
is in command of the lower generals.

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And of course the superior general has his
assistants.

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Each assistant is in charge of an
assistancy.

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And there are presently 10 assistancies in
the world.

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And so these assistants then, underneath
them, have what's called provincials.

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And the provincials are subject then to
the assistant.

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In the United States, there are 10
provincials who then answer to the

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assistant in Rome.

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And the Jesuits have broken the world down
into, I believe at this moment,

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85 different regions.

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85 provinces.

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There's 10 regions in 85 provinces.

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And therefore these 85 provincials are
subject to their assistants.

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And they file their monthly reports,
and maybe even more often than that now,

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so that the assistants in Rome know
absolutely and completely every political,

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financial, religious, social movement in
that country so they can coordinate

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together what they intend to do.

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So it's absolute obedience.

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It's a military organization.

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It's a soldiership.

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The Jesuit general is a general of a
foreign power.

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He's regarded as a sovereign of all
sovereigns.

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And thus, that's how it works.

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And after the break, I want to get into
your take on this immigration issue,

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because we know the Catholic Church has
supported this illegal immigration in our

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country.

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And I want to get your take on that.

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So let's take a break right now.

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We'll be back in three minutes.

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According to my guest Eric Phelps,
the Jesuits are a big part in why this

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country is breaking up at the seams.

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If you want to read more about what Eric
has researched over the years,

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this is incredible research work that he's
done, trying to get at the bottom of

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what's going on in our country,
including things like the murder of John

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F.

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Kennedy, the relationships of many people
in the Council on Foreign Relations,

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Prescott Bush, George H.

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Bush, all people who Eric Phelps describes
as temporal coagulators of this feared

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Jesuit order.

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Go to www.VaticanAssassins.org and you can
read all about that.

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He has a new book coming out called
Vatican Assassins, 3rd Edition.

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It has some new information, and some of
it we've done on this show in the last few

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months.

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Eric, I did want to get your take on the
Catholic Church coming out in favor of the

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immigration issue, which seems to be
causing strife between the American people

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and the illegal immigrants.

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First of all, I try to use another term
for those people coming in.

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I call it an alien invasion.

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The term immigrant implies some legality.

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But what they're doing is, it goes back to
even farther than Naftan Gat, which the

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Knights of Malta were very much in favor
of, especially Lea Iacocca, when he came

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to Clinton and encouraged him to sign
that.

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And of course, Lea Iacocca was a Knight of
Malta and was involved in the Kennedy

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assassination.

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But with Naftan Gat, that has aided to the
destruction of Mexican industries.

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And so the Jesuits, remembering that they
hated Mexico, that they hated Benito

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Juarez, they hated Carlos, because Carlos
had expelled the Jesuits in the 1920s and

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did everything he could to release his
country from the death grip of the

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Jesuits.

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So it seems to be payback time for the
Mexicans now.

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And so their industries, their
infrastructure has been ruined,

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the Jesuits' Rockefeller empire has
confiscated their oil, taken their natural

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resources, and thus these Mexican-Roman
Catholic people are now being encouraged

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with this Aslan movement for the retaking
of the Southwest.

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And so they're coming in by the millions,
encouraged by that high-level Freemason

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Vincente Fox, who was a former head of
Coca-Cola down there in Mexico,

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in conjunction with his brother Mason,
George Bush.

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And so they're working together to promote
this invasion.

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Now the question is why?

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Well, it's the Aslan movement openly,
but I also believe that this is going to

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justify the round-up of these aliens and
putting them in concentration camps.

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And we have somewhat 400 or 600
concentration camps already in place,

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and so this will be a justification to
begin to use them as arresting these

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illegal aliens coming into the country.

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So I think that's one of the major
purposes.

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The other purpose is to unite the white
Roman Catholic peoples with the white

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historic Protestant peoples together.

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It serves an ecumenical purpose to drive
them all into a right-wing fascist

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position that is espoused by Fox News
Network and those Jesuits that control

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that operation.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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Is there anything else you want to add,
or does that pretty well cover it?

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So that pretty well covers it.

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I believe that's their purpose.

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And the Roman hierarchy is totally behind
it.

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McCarrick of Washington, D.C.,
Roger Mahoney of Los Angeles, they're all

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behind it because this is exactly what
they want.

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The overthrow of the U.S.

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Constitution, the declaration of martial
law, the opening of the camps,

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and the resident illegal aliens in this
country will justify that move.

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Let's move on then to something else.

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I wanted to get back to the way you
view...

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you know, you've described the Jesuit
order gaining this obedience from all

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their temporal coagulators, as you call
them, as the ultimate chameleons.

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And what you mean by that is they can put
on any government face, can put on any

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cloth from any religion, blend in,
and basically destroy it from within.

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Absolutely.

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In fact, I just found a quote in a book
written in 1916.

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It's a little paragraph.

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May I read that to you?

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Sure.

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Okay, a quote.

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This is from Watchman.

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He's an anonymous English Calvinist and
patriot.

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He wrote a book called Rome and Germany,
the Plot for the Downfall of Britain,

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written in 1916.

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By means of these secret agents occupying
positions of more or less importance in

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every order and rank of society and in
every office in the state, the Jesuits are

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able, by combined action, to powerfully
influence public opinion and even direct

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the policy of the country.

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For these agents are to be found not only
in the churches and religious bodies,

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but in the schools, in the army and the
navy, in the working men's clubs,

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which are the unions, in the press,
in parliament, and perhaps even in the

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cabinet.

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Our most deadly enemies are those who
exist secretly in our midst.

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And that's what they've done here.

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Yeah, and I mean, if we just talked about,
let's put aside the word Jesuit right now,

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and we started saying, you know,
George, how many people are calling George

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W.

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Bush a traitor?

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How many people are calling people in our
government treasonous?

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How many people cannot believe the laws
they're passing, which do not reflect the

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views of Americans?

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This has to come from somewhere.

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I mean, and again, when you use the word
chameleon, and then you put in the Jesuit

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factor here, add in Georgetown and all the
other things you said they control,

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give us a real flavor of their power in
this country right now, if you could,

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in the next ten minutes.

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Well, they control all the politics.

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They control every state capital from here
in Harrisburg and Pennsylvania to

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Sacramento and California, with Arnold
Schwarzenegger, through that Roman

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Catholic high-level papal knight,
subject to the provincial Thomas Schmaltz,

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who's also a good friend of Warren
Buffett.

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They control Washington, D.C.,
and have controlled Washington,

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D.C., since no later than the
assassination of Lincoln, because it was

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Jesuit Bernard of Wigan that did it,
and orchestrated it all through John

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Seward and others.

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The Jesuits control the Federal Reserve
Bank.

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It's run by the Knights of Malta,
controlling the Class A stockholders,

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Chase Manhattan Bank, Morgan Guarantee.

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In fact, Morgan in New York is a direct
telex to the Vatican.

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They control all your notorious religions,
all your historic Protestant churches via

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Freemasonry.

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They're all apostate.

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They're all on the National Council,
all the World Council of Churches,

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and they control all your Romanism,
all your Roman Catholicism, regardless of

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the orders, because those orders must be
submitted to them.

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They control all your higher institutions
of learning, all your major universities,

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because they have a party line there that
you cannot deviate from.

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If you're a professor, you will be
expelled if you're not a socialist.

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So, they are the masters behind your
education, economics, politics,

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religion, and when you have that,
you have just about every vehicle.

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The American Medical Association,
the American Bar Association, all

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controlled by the Jesuit Order.

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Incredible.

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Incredible.

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And I know, what do they do, basically?

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We talk a lot about all these murder for
hires in our government.

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I mean, this goes on and on and on.

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I just received an email recently,
since the 80s, over 100 scientists and

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biologists killed.

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And there's some really interesting
correlations between what they're

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researching in biological warfare and
their deaths in strange circumstances.

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So, what do the Jesuits basically... they
basically kill people who do not agree

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with them, or find out, or try to go
against them?

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Okay, the Black Pope, the Jesuit General,
controls the international banking

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community.

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With that international banking community,
he also controls the international drug

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trade.

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With the international drug trade and
banking community, he controls all the

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intelligence agencies.

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They all work together at the top.

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From the KGB, or the SBR, to the CIA,
to the Mossad, to the Pakistani ISI,

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German BND, British SIS, MI5, MI6.

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They all work together at the top,
because at the top are Knights of Malta,

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who run it.

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And so then, they have... in addition to
that, they control all organized crime.

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They control the Sicilian Mafia.

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They control the Russian Mafia.

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They control the Japanese Yakuza.

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They control all the Mafia in this
all-organized crime.

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And therefore, they have a host of
assassins that they can choose to use,

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if they decide on a piece of business,
to eliminate somebody who is truly giving

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them a problem.

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And virtually, a crime that's... if you
control the investigation, just as we see

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in every one of these murder-for-hires,
if you control the investigation,

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you basically can get away with murder.

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That's correct.

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Just like David Ferry said in the movie
JFK, they're untouchable.

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The only one who can touch them is God.

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And therefore, that's who we need to seek
His help and meet Him on His terms.

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And then, once we would do that,
then hopefully, the Lord would put in the

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heart of one of these popes to suppress
the Jesuit order, as He did in 1773.

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And when the Jesuit order is formally
suppressed and extinguished, it has no

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legal authority to function.

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Now, it may well foment a huge war,
like it did the French Revolution,

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Napoleonic Wars, but at least it's
formally suppressed.

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And in this country, they're deeply
embedded in what, Georgetown University?

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How many universities do they own in this
country?

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Okay, they have 28 major universities in
this country.

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50% of all your Roman Catholic
institutions of higher learning are in the

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United States.

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The United States is their major
springboard of attack in reducing the

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world and all the governments of the world
to submit to the temple power of the Pope.

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So, if the Jesuits were expelled from the
United States, that would be a great blow

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for liberty and freedom, not only here,
but in the world.

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And, I know, when you say things like
that, I'm thinking about what that lady

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said to you back when you were giving that
speech in Nevada, I think it was.

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How have you stayed safe?

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If I know you're basically, if anyone
tries, for example, I know that Jesuits or

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some people try to criticize you heavily,
they try to attack you in certain ways,

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and you are very steadfast in your
research and your work, and you do not

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allow them, basically, to get the best of
you.

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I guess that's the best way to put it.

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How do you confront someone that is
basically trying to undermine what you're

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doing?

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Well, what I do is, I try never to have an
ad hominem attack until I'm forced to,

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until they force me to it.

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What I do is I put forward all the
information that I have, some key quotes

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from some very key people in history,
and ask them to reconsider their position.

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And if they don't want to reconsider their
position in light of past suppressions and

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their present power, then I am forced to
debate with them, if they will debate with

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me, if they will not debate with me,
or have me on their show, then I'm calling

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them openly Jesuit Temporal Collagitors.

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And if they want me to withdraw the
charge, then they can either host somebody

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to deal with the Jesuit order,
or begin to attack them themselves in

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showing the works that they've done.

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And I think your motives here are,
there's no anti-Catholic motives.

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You've said that a number of times on this
show.

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And your motives are pure, in a sense,
where you want to see our country

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restored.

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That's correct.

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If I was anti-Catholic, I would have never
written a book to defend President Kennedy

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and his Jesuit assassination, carried out
by many high-level prostitute Protestant

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Freemasons like J.

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Edgar Hoover and others.

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So yes, I'm not anti-Roman Catholic
people, I am anti-Pope, anti-his doctrines

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of infallibility and temple power,
anti-Roman hierarchy, anti-Jesuit general

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and his Jesuit order that seeks to rule
the world and deprive what God has

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established, and that national sovereignty
for nations is key to nations living

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peacefully with one another.

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You know what I think would be interesting
here again to do this?

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You've said something through your
research which was very interesting to

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think about, and that is how they control
both sides of most every war that you can

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think back of.

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Let's start in the World War II and bring
it up in the next few minutes here,

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and then we have a break a few minutes
after that.

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Bring up how they controlled World War II,
both sides of the war, and then how

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they're doing it now in the Middle East.

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With regard to the Allied Powers,
the Jesuits controlled Winston Churchill,

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they controlled Joseph Stalin,
they controlled FDR, and those are the

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major Allied Powers that controlled those
three.

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With regard to the Axis, they controlled
Hirohito.

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I just finished a piece in my third
edition on Hirohito.

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They controlled Adolf Hitler, they
controlled Benito Mussolini, and of course

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they controlled all of Hitler's puppets
throughout Eastern Europe.

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So they controlled both factions,
and then, here's the intrigue of it all.

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Then they coordinate these factions
together to accomplish what they want to

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accomplish.

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For example, when Hitler as a General was
ready to destroy the British, Dunkirk,

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all of a sudden Hitler issues the order to
stop.

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And this stop order allows the British to
escape.

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Now of course, you and your listeners know
that when you're in war, you want to kill

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and annihilate the enemy, because as soon
as you do that, the war is over.

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Well, this was not done.

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In the invasion of Normandy, on D-Day,
when that happened, General Patton said

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that the war would be over in ten days,
because shortly thereafter, they had the

32:06.000 --> 32:08.540
Germans surrounded in the Palais pocket in
France.

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And Patton went to Eisenhower to request
permission to close the Palais pocket.

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There's stories in a book called Battle of
the Generals.

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And Eisenhower would not allow him to
close that pocket.

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Therefore, 250,000 German soldiers
escaped.

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And a little heart writes in his book with
regard to the war, he didn't know why the

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Americans allowed that to happen,
because that secured the Battle of the

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Bulge.

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Well, why would they want to extend the
war into 1945?

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Because the majority of your Jews were
killed in the concentration camps from

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June 1944 to April 1945.

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They had more Jews to kill in the East.

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So there are things like this that
happened.

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In the Battle of Anzio, we see the same
thing.

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There were Jews, they had to get the Jews
out of Rome to take them to Auschwitz.

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So therefore, Anzio had to be fought,
and Patton was relieved of his command in

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Sicily.

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Otherwise, if he was in charge of U.S.

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forces, he would have went straight to
Rome, and they would not have killed all

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the Jews and sent them to Auschwitz with
SS General Wolff there.

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So they coordinate both sides together
majestically, and that's exactly what

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they're going to do now.

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With the Muslim leaders and the
Anglo-American leaders.

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Well, I might add, just to make it clear,
and you're saying through your research

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that they're able to, and what you've said
before, they're able to infiltrate these

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groups and get these higher powers all
playing the same card game, all working

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with them, correct?

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That's correct.

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Basically selling out their country and
their religions.

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That's correct.

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Okay.

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Listen, we're going to take a break,
maybe take a call, finish up.

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I want to get your take on the Middle East
and the Jesuit influence.

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We'll be back in three minutes on the
Investigative Journal with Eric Phelps.

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One thing, Eric, can you stay about 15
minutes after the hour?

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If you'd like me to.

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Okay, yeah.

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We'll hold you about 15 minutes longer
than we planned.

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But let me get back to this.

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I wanted to get to your take now on the
Middle East, how they're setting us up for

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what many consider to be the World War
III.

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Well, I believe that what the Jesuits are
doing is what they did in World War II

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when they used Germany.

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I believe the same program they had,
they implemented for Germany, they're

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going to do here.

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Therefore, as the German army was used to
invade Russia, and its purpose was to

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annihilate the Orthodox population,
but never to overthrow Joseph Stalin,

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which Hitler made sure that did not
happen.

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Even so, it is now.

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The purpose of the American military to be
in the Middle East, in these Muslim

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nations, I believe, is that it is a war of
annihilation against the Muslim peoples.

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And this is going to continue along with
the destruction of the mosques,

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because the Jesuits used the Germans to
destroy many, many Orthodox churches in

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Russia.

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So, as they're destroying the mosques and
the Muslim people, they are also,

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I believe, going to destroy Mecca and
Medina.

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And blame that on the American military,
because the Bin Laden Construction Company

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are the only ones who would get near those
mosques.

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Therefore, since Bin Laden is a member of
the Carlyle Group with the Bushes,

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it only makes sense that they would be
given certain mini-nukes or some type of

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pulse weapon to put in those mosques and
ultimately take them out about the time

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some American bombers or fighters are
flying overhead.

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So, they're going to blame the destruction
of the Mecca and Medina mosques,

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as well as the mosques in Jerusalem,
on the U.S.

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And when that happens, then they will
declare a complete and total holy war

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against us that will never end as long as
there's a Muslim on the face of this

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earth.

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And that will ultimately result,
I believe, in the deliberate sacrifice of

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our military by our military high command,
controlled by the Jesuits through

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Georgetown and the CFR.

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And then once our military is sacrificed,
we will be invaded as Germany was invaded,

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and our country will be partitioned.

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And that will be the end of what was once
historically white Anglo-Saxon,

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Protestant, Western civilization.

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And the line-up is now, if you look at
what's going on in the news, Russia,

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China have aligned with the Middle East.

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With Iran.

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Which means that they would be very angry
at us for going over there, giving them a

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reason to invade our borders, correct?

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Correct.

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I call it in my book, the
Sino-Soviet-Muslim invasion.

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But there's also the possibility,
I've been entertaining recently with some

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people, see what you think.

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Remember that Hitler and Stalin divided
Poland, and then later Hitler attacked

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Poland, and later their enemies,
Stalin and Hitler, are supposedly openly

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enemies, which of course they weren't,
they worked a whole duration of the war

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together.

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But, that could very well happen with the
Muslim world, that the U.S.

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for a while, be allied with Russia.

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Because, Putin's a knight of Malta.

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And so, they could, the Jesuits could
decide an alliance, a temporary alliance

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between Russia and the U.S.

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to do lots of killing in the Middle East,
but then ultimately Russia turn against

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us, and they'd be invaded.

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Okay, listen, stay with us after this
break, I want to take a couple calls,

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and we'll be back with Eric Phelps,
author of Vatican Assassins.

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The ultimate deception being played right
before our very eyes, and we're listening

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to Eric Phelps' research into how
America's gotten into the position it's in

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now.

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I mean, we're really, we see on a daily
basis our liberties taken away,

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we see the dollar devalued, we see
everything happening, our government

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basically run on, with a bunch of liars
and thieves, who are showing themselves

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daily, if you look closely at exactly what
they're doing.

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Eric Phelps' research has now uncovered
some startling things to many people,

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for people who have researched this
before, it's not so startling,

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but all goes back to the Vatican,
the Black Pope, the Jesuit Order,

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and its minions throughout the world who
are bringing about another major war.

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Let me take a call, Carson in Canada,
you're on the Investigative Journal.

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Hi, Greg, it's a pleasure to talk to you,
I enjoy your show.

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Well, thank you, and we've kept Eric here,
so hopefully you have a question.

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Yes, I have a quick question for Eric.

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The Jesuits must have a lobby in
Washington, D.C., who represents the

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Jesuits?

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The Jesuits have what's called a Jesuit
conference, where they make known their

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wishes through that.

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For example, they've already condemned gun
ownership, and a few other things,

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but they really use the Roman hierarchy to
put forth what they want in Washington.

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Well, unlike the Zionist lobby,
who are very front and center,

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and very in the face with all their
political affiliations, they're really

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obvious.

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So, are you saying the Jesuits don't have
an obvious lobby?

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I'm saying that they do have what's called
a Jesuit conference, which they do lobby

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there, and there are Jesuits daily in
Washington, but with regard to the

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Zionists, the Jesuits rule the Zionists.

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They've controlled the Zionists since
their inception back in the late 1800s,

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and they run the government of Israel.

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Yes, you mentioned the Jesuits during
World War II in Germany.

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I don't remember any of the history I read
where the Jesuits had a separate flag

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flying in World War II Germany,
where the Zionists did.

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Well, the Jesuits controlled Himmler.

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Himmler designed the SS after the Jesuit
order.

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Himmler was a very powerful individual in
Bavaria, and he was put in that office by

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Michael Cardinal von Fallhaber,
who was the Archbishop of Munich,

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and thus he was probably 200 yards away
from the Jesuit Church of St. Michael

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there in Munich.

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So the whole Third Reich was birthed out
of Bavaria, and the Jesuits ruled Bavaria.

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So the Jesuits are not seeking a country
of their own like the Zionists have done,

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and have wreaked a lot of havoc on the
world, as the Zionists have.

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Carson, if I could just say... Carson,
this is Greg Szymanski.

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Carson, are you there?

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Hi.

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Oh, hi.

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I just want to add something here,
just from my point of view, from some of

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the research I've done.

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There's a point in this discussion here
where we have to understand that the

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Jesuits do not openly...

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what you're talking about is a group who
work under the table, so to speak.

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They don't let their intentions be known,
according to Eric Phelps and other

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researchers.

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They basically are the ultimate
chameleons.

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So they're not going to fly a flag.

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They're not going to tell you who they
are.

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They may be a Catholic, but yet be a
Satanist.

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They may say they're a Jew, and they're a
Satanist.

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Basically, what they do is they hide
behind the cloth.

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And we'll get back.

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I've got to take a break.

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You stay on there, Carson.

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And Eric, you come back.

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We've got a whole bunch of callers I want
to get to.

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We'll extend this a little longer.

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We'll be back in three minutes on the
Investigative Journal.

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...assassins.

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He's going to stick with us.

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We've got a whole bunch of callers I want
to get to.

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Carson, I'm sorry I interrupted you there.

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I wanted to get your point across,
so go right ahead.

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Okay, Eric, I'd like to come at this,
what I'm trying to say, at a little

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different angle, if I may.

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I'm thinking of Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry, who is Jewish.

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He's skull and bones.

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Pardon?

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He's skull and bones.

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Yeah, well, his parents are Jewish,
and his wife is Jewish, and his younger

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brother is married to a Jewish woman.

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Okay?

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I really, really think the influence of
Israel on the North American continent,

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including Canada, is way out of proportion
to what it should be.

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I just want to say, do you feel there's a
conspiracy by the Israeli Jewish people to

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overdo their influence in our way of life?

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I believe that the Jews that we see are
the Pope's Masonic Jewish Zionists.

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They're loaded all throughout the CFR,
and also in Canada.

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But the average Jewish people,
they're not out to overthrow our way of

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life.

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We have to look at their leaders,
like Bronfman and others.

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They're the ones that are controlled by
the papacy, and thus they are controlled

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by the Jesuits.

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Yes.

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Can you offer any place where one could
research this, that the Jesuits have such

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influence in our life?

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Yes, you can.

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There's a couple books apart from mine.

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You can get Edmund Paris' great works,
The Vatican Against Europe.

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You can get his Secret History of the
Jesuits.

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Grisinger wrote a tremendous two-volume
set called The Jesuits, The History of the

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Orders Told to the German People.

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In fact, there's a group called the Bank
of Wisdom, if you get on the internet.

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And even though it's an atheistic group,
they put a CD together, composing all

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these tremendous books on the Jesuits on
CD, called bankofwisdom.com, I believe.

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And there, if you get their CD,
you can get a pretty good History of the

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Order, apart from my book, if you ever
wanted to get that when it comes out.

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And Carson, I imagine you can go to www
.VaticanAssassins.org and get some

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information there.

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Thanks a lot, Carson.

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I've got to move on.

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Carl, in Oklahoma, you're on the
Investigative Journal.

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Yes, Greg.

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Thank you for taking my call.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Nice to have you.

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Eric, as to the black popes, they are
listed in the several prophecies.

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I'm sure you're aware of the prophecies.

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No, I'm not.

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Well, one of the major black popes that
they just put in is Negroponte.

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Well, there's no doubt.

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His name is Negra, meaning the Negro or
the black, and Ponte means the pontificate

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or the pope.

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John Negroponte is a very evil,
wicked individual.

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I believe he's a book and snake.

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He's a member of the CFR and most
assuredly serves the Jesuit Order.

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Yes.

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I left my number with the producer,
and if you can please give me a call after

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the show, I have some critical information
for you that I wish you could consider.

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I would love to talk with you.

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Also, if you can do a computer search on
John's website there, RBN website,

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and look at Eric Williams' website,
and go to his website, you'll see a list

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of a conference call that we do on
Thursday nights.

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Eric Williams, okay.

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Yes.

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He has a show at 11 a.m.

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until noon on RBN.

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On RBN, okay.

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Yeah.

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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You guys have a great day, and I thank you
both for what you're doing for the world,

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because we are at the end times.

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Thank you, Carl.

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I'm going to move right on.

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John in California.

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John, are you there?

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Yes.

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Go ahead.

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You're on the Investigative Journal.

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Yeah, and your guest name is Eric?

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Eric Phelps, yes.

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Eric, are you online?

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Yes, I am, John.

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What's your website?

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It's www.VaticanAssassins.org.

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VaticanAssassins.org?

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.com is theirs, .org is mine.

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Okay, I got part of that.

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I didn't know if it was .org or .com or
whatever.

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.org.

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I just wanted to ask you a question.

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Sure.

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Have you ever read Dr. John Coleman's
work?

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He wrote a book called The Committee of
300.

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Yes, very good book.

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I believe you're right on point with a lot
of the things you're talking about.

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But I wanted to ask you how you felt about
his, if you take a pyramid, the Jesuits

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were really, weren't they just pretty much
a strong arm of the New World Order?

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Well, there...

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When he mentions names, that's really a
good source if anybody wanted to read

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that.

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When I read it, I liked it very well.

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In fact, he brought out a fact I hadn't
known, and that was that Joseph Redinger,

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who was a high-level Freemason and a
Jesuit, was the founder of the

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Bilderbergers.

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So, John Coleman has put out some very
good information.

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I believe The Committee of 300,
though, is at the top of Masonic,

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not of Malta, and they're controlled
ultimately by the Vatican to the Black

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Pope.

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Right.

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Now, do you think that the Vatican pretty
much controls the industrialists,

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the bankers, the powers that be?

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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And the wealthiest men in the world are
Gentiles, not Jews.

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The way he explains it in the book,
he feels like most of the royal families

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in Europe are at the top of the pyramid,
not the Vatican.

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See, I would defer with him on that,
on the basis of Revelation 17-18,

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that the woman which thou sawest is a
great city, which remains the kings of the

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earth, which is indeed Rome.

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But Rome controls all the black nobility,
all the nobles, through their secret

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societies, that's right.

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He didn't use a whole lot of scripture
reference, especially in Revelation,

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to the order that he showed in his book.

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It was mostly his own experience,
I guess he was in counter-intelligence

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with the British.

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He was British intelligence, I believe,
yes.

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Israel.

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And Greg, I'd like to ask you a question.

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Sure, go right ahead.

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I just wonder if you ever heard,
you know, he kind of disappeared about,

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or maybe even you, Eric, if he's still
alive.

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I don't know, you know, he was supposed to
be...

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I haven't heard from him, or used to be...

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I don't know what happened to John.

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The first time I ever heard him was,
I believe, on John Stabmiller's program a

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long, long time ago, probably six years
ago.

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Well, I don't know either.

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I'll ask John, though.

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Maybe he knows where he's at.

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Right.

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Okay, anything else?

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Thank you very much for both of you guys
doing what you're doing.

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All right, thank you.

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I want to get to Charles in Texas.

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Charles, you're on the Investigative
Journal.

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Hello, men.

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Mr. Phelps, how is your book going to be
available?

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Is it going to be strictly through the
Internet?

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No, there'll be some people selling it.

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My old publisher will be offering it first
in CD.

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And hopefully a gentleman has offered to
find me some money for the first printing.

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But it'll be first on CD.

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Is it still going to be in May?

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Well, I'm shooting for June 1st.

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June 1st.

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Also, I know you talk about Masonic and
Jesuit involvement in racial instigation

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here in America.

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Do you think they're involved with these
illegal immigration protests that are

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going on right now?

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Absolutely.

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It's the whole Aslan movement that the
Jesuits are backing for the purpose of

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taking back the Southwest, reuniting it
with Mexico.

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And it is very much Masonic and very much
backed by the Roman hierarchy.

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Just like all the racial agitation between
the blacks and the whites and so on.

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All done by the Jesuits to divide the
peoples for the purpose of having internal

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insurrection and revolution that further
justifies martial law.

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I was looking on the Aslan website and
half of it is anti-Israel and pro-PLO.

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See, that's a sign it's Jesuit controlled.

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They're also anti-white Anglo-Saxon
Protestants.

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Look for that too.

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Have you ever heard of a book called
Malcolm X's Last Speeches?

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Yes.

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Edited by a guy named Bruce Perry?

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I haven't heard of the book, but I've
never read it.

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I've read through it and Malcolm X talks
about how the Ku Klux Klan, how Elijah

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Muhammad once brought in James Venable,
a Ku Klux Klan lawyer to represent the

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Nation of Islam in rural Louisiana.

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Yeah.

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Malcolm X, who is the one I have the
utmost respect for, I devote two pages to

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in my book.

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He was the one who said the Nation of
Islam and the Ku Klux Klan have the same

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paymasters.

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It also said that the Ku Klux Klan was
going to give the Nation of Islam land in

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the Carolinas or Georgia.

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Georgia.

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They've already done it.

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They've given them farms.

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That's right.

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They work together.

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Very interesting.

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I've been a fan of yours for a while.

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I've been waiting to talk to you for a
long time, but thank you.

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My pleasure.

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All right.

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Eric, I'll tell you something.

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I've kept you longer than you were
planning, but let me mention something.

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I have my last guest, and I just wanted to
mention this to you.

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I thought you might be interested.

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I'm going to do a segment with a person
who is called a Du Plessis orphan.

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This is a story that goes back to CIA mind
control programs, use of illegal drugs on

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children.

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There are thousands of these children now
surfacing.

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It's interesting that they come from
Catholic orphanages who basically were

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working together with the government,
changing these innocent children.

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My guest is Pierre Sampson today,
who at six years old was in a Catholic

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orphanage.

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Overnight, he was considered insane and
used in mind control and drug experiments.

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Just another side shoot of how perhaps
this infiltration of the church has been

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going on for a long, long time.

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This was back in the 50s when this
started.

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Do you want me to comment on that?

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Yeah, I just wanted you to comment on
that.

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My understanding of that is that the
Jesuits, of course, had put together the

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SS.

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And the SS was like the Jesuit order
within the Third Reich, policing the party

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and policing the armies and most
everything else.

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But at the end of the war, the Vatican
enabled the high officers of the SS,

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including Heinrich Himmler, to escape and
got them out through the Vatican rat lines

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and brought them into the US.

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And then a couple of years later,
in 1947, created the Central Intelligence

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Agency, which was a continuation of the
SS.

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Out of the CIA, you have MKUltra and these
horrible experiments.

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Okay, Eric.

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Well, thanks a lot for being with us.

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We'll have you on again.

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And I need to take a break.

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That was Eric Phelps.

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That was Eric Phelps, author of Vatican's
Assassins.