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Okay, welcome to the investigative
journal.

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I called in a minute late, but anyway,
we're going to start the show today.

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My guest today, again, is Eric John
Phelps.

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And the reason I'm having Eric on again is
that he's going to be on vacation for a

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little while.

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And I wanted to make sure that I get Eric
on one more time before September and his

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scheduled appearance.

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We're going to talk today about how we can
successfully fight the Vatican-led New

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World Order and what we can do.

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But I did want to mention a couple things.

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I wanted to say this, that Eric has
written a book called...

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well, he's written three versions,
Vatican Assassins I, II, and III.

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And the last one is over 1,500 pages.

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And some people may ask, why is it
important to write about the Jesuits and

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the Vatican?

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Well, last century... well, this is two
centuries ago, a French writer named

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Adolphe Michel recalled that Voltaire
estimated the number of works published

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over the years on the Jesuits to be about
6,000.

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And then another French writer asked,
well, how many have been written now?

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And he said this, it doesn't matter
because so long as there are Jesuits,

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books will have to be written against
them.

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There is nothing left to be said on their
account, but new generations of readers

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come every day.

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And that's why Eric's book is important.

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Will these readers search old books?

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And this writer, this French writer says
this, the reason mentioned is that in

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fact, most of the books retracing the
history of the Jesuits cannot be found

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anymore.

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And they've been taken out by the Jesuits,
taken out of circulation.

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Only in public libraries can they still be
consulted, which makes them out of reach

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for most readers.

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With the aim of succinctly informing the
public at large and mine, a summary of

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these works seem necessary.

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And so this writer went and talked about
all the 6,000 books that had been written

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about the Jesuits and how important it was
to write about them.

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And I did want to mention this from Edmund
Parris' book, The Secret History of the

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Jesuits, a French writer translated into
English.

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He says this, the public is practically
unaware of the overwhelming responsibility

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carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in
the start of the two world wars.

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A situation which may be explained in part
by the gigantic finances at the

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disposition of the Vatican and its
Jesuits, giving them power in so many

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spheres, especially since the last world
war.

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In fact, the part they took in these most
tragic events has hardly been mentioned

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until present time, except for apologists
eager to disguise it.

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It is with this aim of rectifying this and
establishing true facts that we,

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the contemporary epic reader, activity
which mutually concerns the Jesuits.

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And what he goes on to say, he begins to
show so many different facts and people

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writing about the Jesuits.

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And what comes to mind, before we get to
Eric, is how many people in our media have

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ignored this.

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I mean, when you start looking at all the
people that have been writing about the

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Jesuits over the centuries, and for this
to be ignored, especially the concordat

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that was brought together between the
Nationalist Socialist government and the

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Vatican, how can these people in the
alternative media, like Alex Jones and the

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rest of these guys, ignore this?

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And how can the mainstream media ignore
it?

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And I figured it's only one reason that
they must be working for them,

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because how can they look at this?

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For example, Mr. Joseph Rovin,
a Catholic writer, comments on the

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diplomatic agreement between the Vatican
and the Nazi Reich on the 8th of July,

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1933.

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And he writes, the concordat brought to
the Nationalist Socialist government,

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considered nearly everywhere to be made up
of usurpers, if not brigands, the seal of

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an agreement with the oldest international
power, the Vatican.

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In a way, it was the equivalent of a
diploma of international honorability.

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Thus the Pope, not satisfied with giving
his personal support to Hitler,

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which he did, granted in this way the
moral support of the Vatican to the Nazi

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Reich.

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At the same time as the terror was
beginning to reign on the other side of

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the Rhine, and was tacitly accepted and
approved, the so-called brown shirts had

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already put 40,000 persons into
concentration camps.

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The programs were multiplying to the
accents of the Nazi march.

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When the Jewish blood streams from the
knife, we feel better again.

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And that was said by a Nazi sympathizer.

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In the following years, Pius XII saw even
worse, without being stirred.

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It is not surprising that the Catholic
heads of Germany vied with each other in

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their civility towards the Nazi regime,
encouraged as they were by their Roman

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master.

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One must read the disheveled ravings and
verbal acrobats of opportunist theologians

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such as Michael Schmoss.

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He was later made a prince of the church
by Pius XII, and described as the great

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theologian of Munich by the publication La
Croix on the 2nd of September 1954.

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And as we look at these writings,
we see the agreement between the Vatican

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and all of its priests, all of its
bishops, to support the Nazi Reich.

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And it goes on and on.

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And also, never once did the Vatican ever
denounce the Third Reich.

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So what about the Fourth Reich,
folks?

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What about the Fourth Reich led by the
Vatican?

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Lessons from History of Roman Catholicism.

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Let me just read you this by Richard
Bennett.

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And he writes this, and then we'll get to
Mr. Phelps.

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The lesson and warning of history is that
the undemocratic regimes whose leaders own

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allegiance to the Pope or practice the
lofty principles of the papacy pose a

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threat to individual liberty and carry out
religious persecution.

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For example, the Inquisition was alive and
well in the Balkans in the 1940s.

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Convert or die was the choice on the
900,000 Orthodox Serbs in the new state of

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Croatia run by Nazi puppet Anton Pavelic
and Roman Catholic primate Archbishop

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Aloysius Staponik.

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200,000 of them were converted,
and the other 700,000 who preferred to die

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were tortured, shot, burned, and buried
alive.

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This appalling persecution, carried out
mainly by Ustashe priests and friars for

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the triumph of Christ in Croatia,
included many of the worst atrocities of

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the war.

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Certainly the mutilations were horrific,
the savagery terrible.

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Few people know what took place in Croatia
during the Second World War.

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News of it had been simply suppressed.

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And with that, I want to get to another
thing.

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That's exactly what's happening today.

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The truth about the Jesuits and the
Vatican and what's happening in our

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country is being suppressed.

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Being suppressed by the likes of people in
the alternative media, and I can name

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their names, John Stadmiller and his radio
station, Jeff Rents, the rest of these

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guys, the Alex Jones and GCN, who control
most of the alternative media,

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and many other people, have not given you
the straight story.

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They've not researched history and will
suppress this because they are protecting

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the Vatican so that this inquisition can
take place unabated in America.

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It's your life, folks.

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It's the life of your children.

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And if you're going to just fall for their
ploys, you know what?

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You deserve what you get.

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And the mainstream media has proved to be
a whore, so now has the alternative media.

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With that, I want to get to Eric Phillips.

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Eric, how are you?

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Doing well, Greg.

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Pleasure to be with you and your
listeners.

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Yeah, and I wanted to bring that up for
the first ten minutes of the show to show

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how important it is.

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Over the years, there have been over 6,000
different books written about the Jesuits

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over the course of history, and what this
French writer said is most of them have

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been suppressed.

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And that's why it's important for people
like you to come forward and write again

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and to continue throughout history,
to continue writing against them,

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because they are just making it impossible
for people to find the truth.

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Now, I know people in the media are as
smart as me or you, and they know the

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truth.

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They're just suppressing it.

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And I wanted to get your opinion about how
important it is to continue this pursuit

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of exposing the people who are really
hiding the Jesuit and Vatican evils in

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what I call the Fourth Reich.

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Yeah, well, it's absolutely important
because it's the Jesuits who rule the

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country.

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And I have a quote in my book by G.

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Gordon Liddy, who was trained by Jesuits
at Fordham, and his father was very

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intimately involved with the Jesuits
there.

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And the quote in his book that I quote in
mine is, his book is Will, the

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autobiography of G.

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Gordon Liddy.

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He says in there that the Jesuits at
Fordham rule the world, and they enjoy it.

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And G.

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Gordon Liddy knows who rules.

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And so all these guys in Washington know
who rules in the Beltway, and yet they're

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under oath or under death threats not to
say anything.

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And so as a result, the people think,
well, in fact, there are two political

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parties, and there really is a race,
and there really is an election.

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Well, that couldn't be any farther from
the truth.

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So indeed, we need to continue to reveal
the history of the Jesuits, so that in the

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flow or in the stream of history,
we're brought to the present, and it makes

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perfect sense as to how they got this
power and how they rule.

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Yeah, and that takes us to how they
control the media, just for a point.

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Last time you were on the show,
we discussed this in depth, so I think

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it's worth mentioning just for a couple of
minutes again.

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And when you start looking at some of the
past books that have been written about

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the Jesuits and your book, which cites
numerous, numerous people throughout the

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course of history warning us about the
Vatican and their evils, even up to the

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Croatian genocide in World War II,
and just as late as the genocide in Rwanda

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in the 90s, and what's so upsetting is
that none of these people who profess to

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be in the alternative media, who we talked
about, will deal with these issues in a

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fact-by-fact basis.

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And I think the reason is, if they did,
their cover would be finally up.

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What's your thoughts?

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I agree completely, and they would not
have a show anymore.

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I think the only one in the alternative
media that ever really did deal with the

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Jesuits, sincerely and persistently,
was William Cooper.

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And so after they finished killing him,
they felt that the main voice exposing the

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Jesuits was gone, but little did they know
the Lord had other things in mind,

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that there would be a host of other people
now that would rise up and expose them for

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what they are.

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But indeed, the Jesuit order, what I want
to concentrate on, when I have my

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newsletter going, and maybe even a
broadcast with American Voice,

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I'm thinking about it for an hour a week,
is to continually set forth the great

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authors of the past, and what they wrote
on the Jesuit order, what were the great

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statesmen of Europe, what they had to say
about them, the leaders in World War II,

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what they had to say about them,
and so that the reader may become very,

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very familiar with Jesuit history,
and so that he's not surprised to see that

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all these Jesuit grads are manning key
positions in the media, such as Chris

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Matthews, such as Tim Rissert,
and a host of others.

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So when you see the Jesuit connection
there, then people can know that they have

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an agenda.

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Yeah, and it not only stops with the
media, it's also in our government and in

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the banking sector, and basically,
if you look at some of their followers,

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it's amazing how much power they have.

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And it appears that they hide behind this
one simple method, and that is to say,

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we are the sons of God, we are just a
religious organization, and how dare you,

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how dare you criticize us.

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That's right.

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And you see, the reason why we can't
attack them is because we're taking their

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own writings, their own writings that they
don't want you to know.

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For example, their key writers are called
moral theologians.

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Moral theologians.

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I call them immoral theologians.

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And some of their key defendants,
defenders, pardon me, are propagandists

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like Cardinal Bellarmine, Robert
Bellarmine.

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He's a very important individual,
a Jesuit and a cardinal of the 17th

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century.

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Another particular immoral theologian was
Francisco Sárez.

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Francisco Sárez wrote the book on
justifiable regicide, justifiable murder

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of an enemy of the order.

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Another immoral theologian, Emmanuel Sá
and Pablo Escobar.

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The list is just unbelievable.

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But these immoral theologians that they
call moral theology, in France in the

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1760s, this became known because of the
Levalier issue where the Jesuits

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bankrupted a bank because of their
speculation and their constitution was

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presented for the first time in the public
arena.

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And there before a French court,
the French court was so outraged when they

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read the absolute power of the Jesuit
general and what he could do.

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And Levalier had no business, quote
unquote, speculating for the order.

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They put it all on him to make the order
pay for the millions that had been lost.

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That the French, what would be our
attorney general, called for the absolute

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suppression of the Jesuits, which
ultimately France did expel the Jesuits in

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1764.

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And they took all the writings of their
moral theologians, Sárez, Molina,

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Escobar, all of those men.

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They took them and they burned them on the
public steps of the capital in Paris,

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France.

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A public burning of all their works.

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And then their open expulsion from France
under Louis XV.

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So this made all the papers all over
Europe and the colonies in America and in

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England.

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So none of this was ever done in a corner
so the people didn't know about this.

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And there is instance after instance.

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Czar Alexander I does the same thing in
1820 after the Jesuits sought to convert

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the nobles of Czarist Russia to their
cause.

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And seeking then to overthrow the Czar.

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It was Czar Alexander who in 1820 issued a
royal case that said no more Jesuits in

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St. Petersburg and Moscow and no more
Jesuits in all the Russias.

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Because they are constantly meddling in
political affairs.

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It had nothing to do with their religion.

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It was their political meddling.

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And so the Jesuits remained expelled from
Russia for over 100 years until Lenin

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formally allowed them to come back into
Russia in 1922.

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Showing you, in fact, who really
controlled the Bolshevik Revolution.

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So there are instances after instances.

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Here is another instance.

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Eugene Su.

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Eugene Su was one of the greatest
Frenchmen who ever lived in my book.

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He was a physician, he was a mariner,
he was learned, he spoke several

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languages.

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And he wrote the most wonderful expose on
the Jesuit order.

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He is probably regarded as the third
greatest enemy of the Jesuit order in

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history.

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The first being Blaise Pascal and his
Provincial Letters.

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The second being Dostoevsky with his
brothers Karamazov and the Grand

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Inquisitor.

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And the third being Eugene Su.

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When Eugene Su wrote The Wandering Jew in
1844 and this hit Europe, all the

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Europeans realized that the Jesuits were
running their countries, that they were

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the masters of murder and deception and
pillage and extortion, and you name it,

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centralizing all monetary power,
political power.

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And that was one of the things that was
used to excite the European nations to the

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second French Revolution of 1848.

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We have Westward Ho, written by Kingsley,
who was the confessor or the chaplain to

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Queen Mary, to Queen Victoria.

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Westward Ho further exposes it.

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You have Voltaire and his Candide.

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Let us eat Jesuits.

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It's one particular piece of great
literature after another, which,

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by the way, we are not allowed to read in
our college literature courses,

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that further exposes the order in all
their devices.

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So we need to go back to the literature
and the writings of the 1900s and early

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20th century.

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Yeah, and I'm just looking at some things
in World War II here.

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Regarding the Vatican and the Jesuit role
in the Holocaust and the monstrosities

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that took place in World War II,
Carlo Falcone wrote a book, The Silence of

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Pope Pius XII.

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He wrote it in, I believe in French,
but he's an Italian.

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And he said, the existence of such
monstrosities overthrows every standard of

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good and evil.

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They defy dignity of their individual
being and society in general to such an

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extent that we are compelled to denounce
those who could have influenced public

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opinion, be they ordinary civilians or
heads of state.

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And what he's talking about, to keep quiet
in the face of such outrages, he's talking

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about the Vatican, would amount in fact to
downright collaboration.

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It would stimulate the villainy of the
criminals, stirring up their cruelty and

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vanity.

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But if every man has the moral duty to
react when confronted with such crimes,

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it is doubly so of the religious societies
and their heads, including Pope Pius XII

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who said nothing, and above all,
the head of the Catholic Church.

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And so we not only show silence,
then we get to complicity.

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And that was brought out in another book,
where it actually showed that the Vatican

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had used Monsignor Stepanik to work with
Anton Pablicek, who was the mass murderer

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for the Ustashis.

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And this document, then we go,
there's a very concise book by Gunther

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Louis.

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It's written in 64, called The Catholic
Church in Nazi Germany.

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And he says that all the documents agree
to show the Catholic Church cooperating

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with the Hitler regime.

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Now, there is no Adolf Hitler without
Pacelli.

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You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was
an Austrian.

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He was not a German.

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He only received German citizenship in
1932, the year before he became

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Chancellor.

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He was a flophouse drunk.

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He never read a book.

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All he ever did was read newspapers.

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His one-room little apartment there in
Vienna contained old newspapers.

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He was totally incapable of writing Mein
Kampf.

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Which is why Leo Lehmann, in his great
book Behind the Dictators, says that the

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Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.

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And their whole geopolitical pattern for
Europe is dictated by Karl Haushofer,

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who was another Jesuit.

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Hitler followed it to a T when he
subjugated Austria and then Czechoslovakia

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and then attacked Poland.

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But no, Hitler was nothing.

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He was nothing.

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He was just a crusader to preach the
crusade against the Jews of Europe.

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And so therefore, it was Eugenio Pacelli
who had been personally tutored by the

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Jesuits.

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The Jesuit general, Francis Xavier Warnes,
was his tutor in Rome.

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And Warnes had a hand in the writing of
the Code of Canon Law for 1917.

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And Pacelli had been taught hatred of the
Jews from the time he was a little boy.

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And he was most devoted to the Jesuit
Virgin Mary.

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It just goes on and on.

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And Pasqualina, who wrote the book on
Adolf Hitler, she wrote La Popessa.

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And in that book, it tells that Hitler
visited Pacelli, who was the nuncio there

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in Bavaria.

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And he visited him and Pacelli gave him a
sack of money.

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And he said, go fight the crusade against
communism, essentially.

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And without Pacelli, who then goes back to
be Secretary of State, who then becomes

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Pope in 1939, without him, there is no
Adolf Hitler.

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Cornwall should have never wrote the book
Hitler's Pope.

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The book should have been called The
Pope's Führer.

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That's the proper title.

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So no, you just go on and on and on as you
find these things.

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And then after the war, you have four key
Jesuits who are involved in the cover of

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the Pope in the Eurasian Jewish Holocaust.

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And three of those Jesuits were BLEP,
and one of them was Robert Graham,

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an American Jesuit, and Robert Lebir,
who had been the Pope's confessor.

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All these four key Jesuits, and I name
them in my book, were involved in

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suppressing the evidence of the papacy
under Pius XII, being the mainspring of

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the whole Third Reich and the Eurasian
Jewish Holocaust, not only of the Jews,

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but also of the German Lutherans,
because we have to remember Prussia was

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destroyed in World War II.

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Protestant Prussia was finished.

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Hitler and Stalin worked together to
destroy the Protestant Prussian people.

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And we have the destruction of the 220
million Orthodox people.

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And the Orthodox people have been
condemned by canon law.

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So the Jesuits are wonderfully and
unbelievably orchestrating the dictators

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of Europe together, allied in Axis
together, in the annihilation of the

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certain people they wanted to destroy,
as well as in the establishment of the

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Kingdom of Jerusalem.

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Exactly.

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And before we get to more pertinent things
that are going on in our world today,

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I wanted to mention... so many things are
forgotten, but there was a speech by a

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member of the Parliament for Levorn,
a maid at Ortona, on the 15th of April

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1946.

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And Laura Diaz, who was a member of
Parliament, said this.

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She said, the Pope's hands are dripping
with blood.

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And then, students at Cardiff University,
Cardiff University College, chose a theme

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for a conference, and this was April 2nd,
1946.

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Should the Pope be brought to trial as a
war criminal?

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And the answer is absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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And here's what's so interesting,
though, and let me read this really

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quickly.

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Here's how Pope John XXIII expressed
himself when referring to the Jesuits.

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This is after all these facts and
information comes out implicating the

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Vatican, implicating Pope Pius XII with
the Nazi war crimes.

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He says, persevere, dear son, Jesuits,
in the activities which have already

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brought you well-known merit.

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In that way, you will gladden the Church
and will grow with an untiring ardor.

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Your path is just as the light of dawn.

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May that light grow and illuminate the
molding of all adolescents.

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In that way, you will help carry out our
spiritual wishes and concerns.

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We give our apostolic blessing with all
our heart to your superior general,

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to you and your co-agitators, and to all
members of the Society of Jesus.

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And then, when was this?

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Just right after that, Pedro Rurupi,
Father Rurupi, was named Jesuit General.

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So that's how they view this whole thing.

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Well, we have to remember, Greg,
that the Jesuits have done only what they

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said they were going to do.

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You have to give, the devil is due.

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The Jesuits, in their documents of law,
in their documents setting forth what they

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seek to establish and fulfill,
which they don't want the public to read,

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they have done exactly what they said they
will do.

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And for that, I respect them.

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And, just when I read that, it was to show
the hypocrisy of the Pope in the Catholic

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Church, because how can a man in the
highest position of the Catholic Church

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express this loyalty and this adoration
for the Jesuits, after they've been

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involved in the most horrendous of
genocides?

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Because this is why, this is why,
according to the doctrines of Thomas

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Aquinas in his Summa Theologica,
it is no murder to kill a heretic.

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We have to understand that.

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And without the shedding of the blood of
the heretic, there is no salvation.

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These are doctrines of Aquinas that the
Jesuits have championed and put into their

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moral theologies and into their Jesuit
oath.

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So, the Jesuit, after 15 years of
education and brainwashed by his

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superiors, is in the hands of his superior
as a stick in the hand of an old man,

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as described by Loyola.

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And so, when they're given the order to
kill, assassinate, defraud, become

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involved in graft or whatever,
they carry out the order without fear of

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reprisal and without conscience and do
exactly as they are told.

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They are the perfect Manchurian
candidates.

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And wherever they are in their secret
places, upon the order of their superior,

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they immediately come out of their holes
and do their bidding, do the work that

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they've been told to do.

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Just as if you ever saw the movie
Brotherhood of the Bell, when Glenn Ford

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is given an order to do something,
it's absolute and complete and total

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obedience, which is the maximum of the SS.

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And so, this is how the Jesuits function.

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And it goes all back to their theologies.

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Right.

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And, you know, the most important thing,
I think, your book, your Vatican

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Assassin's 3 does, is it brings all these
facts to the forefront.

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And then it also shows who's willing to
discuss it in a logical manner,

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to try to get to the problems facing our
country, facing Europe.

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And then it shows the people who are
hiding it.

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Because never once did I ever hear you
say, believe, you know, believe,

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just read what I'm saying, put it out
there.

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Never forcing anybody, but just to look at
the material.

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And that in itself, you know, the people
that don't want to even look at it,

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and just write it off and say,
oh, this is just all baloney, shows

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exactly how corrupted they are.

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We'll get back, because I want to talk
about the EU and other things that Jesuits

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are doing overseas.

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We'll be back after these short messages.

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And I want to thank Liberty Radio.

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Ah, here we are.

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Okay, we're back.

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And I wanted to thank Liberty Radio for
running this.

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And it really shows where we've come from,
63 with Kennedy, and then what our

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president is saying now.

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And I think I know why I cried,
Eric, when I was a little boy when Kennedy

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was killed.

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It seems to me he was talking about the
Jesuits.

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That's right.

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He knew the Jesuits well.

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He had been trained by them.

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He knew them in Georgetown, when he moved
into Georgetown.

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He attended Georgetown for some time,
along with Jackie.

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He went to their Jesuit church there in
Washington, D.C.

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He knew them like the back of his hand.

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His parents attended Xavier Church there,
where they have their cottage.

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Massachusetts is what they're called.

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I can't remember at the moment.

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But they were part of his family life.

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And yet, he knew exactly the power of his
father and his relationship to Spelman.

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He knew his father had caused the Great
Depression.

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And his father was the most powerful
knight of Malta in the country at the

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time, before his stroke.

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And so, he knew.

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And he made a conscious decision to resist
them.

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And what he just described in this
preceding tape that we all heard,

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is he's describing the Jesuit order to the
T.

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Because there is no such organization that
can encompass such a vast array of

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sciences and strongholds as the Jesuit
order.

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The Jews pale in comparison to them.

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Yeah.

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And I know you've written a lot about the
Kennedy assassination.

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And we'll save that for another show.

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But I also... one argument that people
make, who don't want to accept or even

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start researching the Vatican's
involvement.

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Because I believe firmly that if we don't
stop these people or expose them,

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America has no hope.

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It's that serious.

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And one of their arguments is that,
well, the Vatican may have been like that

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in the future.

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But, you know, in the past.

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Yeah, in the past.

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But they're not like that now.

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And I wanted to read something and then
get your opinion on that.

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But this, by Pope John XXIII, about the
Jesuits, shows they haven't changed.

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And although he uses words like God and
honorable, try to read between the lines.

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He says, From the time of its restoration,
this Jesuit religious family enjoys the

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sweet help of God and has enriched herself
very quickly with great progress.

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The members of the Society of Jesus have
accomplished many important deeds,

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all to the glory of God and for the
benefit of the Catholic religion.

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The Church needs soldiers of Christ with
valor, armed with a dauntless faith,

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ready to confront difficulties.

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That is why we have a great hope in the
help you activity will bring us.

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May the new era, now listen to this,
may the new era find the Society of Jesus

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on the same path it trod in the past.

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Now, that was given on August 20th,
64.

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So, how can anybody say their ideas have
changed?

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That's right.

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No, they haven't changed.

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And in fact, in the days just prior to
their suppression, in France, Louis XV

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said to Jesuit General Lorenzo Ricci,
he says, Can't you just change the order

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or change the maxims?

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And Ricci very boldly said, Let them be as
they are or else not be.

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And that has become a battle cry for the
Jesuits.

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Let us be as we are or else not be.

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They never changed, their designs never
changed, their goal of world government

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never changed.

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In fact, one of my fellow researchers just
happened to come across a very rare French

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book, written in French, that I would like
to have translated someday.

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It's called The Kingdom of Solipses.

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And isn't that great work?

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It was written by a Jesuit, a renegade
Jesuit who showed that the purpose of the

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Jesuit order was to establish a world
government, a kingdom of solipses.

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And he had to go into hiding, and from
what I had read, he had been knifed.

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So they had tried to kill him,
but the book managed to get out and become

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circulated in Europe at the time,
about the time of Eugene Su's work.

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But they don't change, they are the same.

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And of course Pope John XXIII,
he had been involved in the Eurasian

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Jewish Holocaust.

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He was an archbishop, I believe,
out of Turkey at the time, coordinating

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with Turkey.

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And he too was assassinated by them
because he crossed them, and I cover that

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in my book.

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So no Pope has any guts to truly resist
the Jesuit order.

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And if the Pope has no guts to resist
them, why should we expect any Roman

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Catholic priest, archbishop, or cardinal,
or any Roman Catholic politician of any

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stripe to resist them?

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None of them will, because now those Roman
Catholic politicians, and others in the

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know, know that the Jesuit general
controls the international intelligence

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community.

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They are all combined, they all work
together, hand in hand with the

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international crime syndicate out of
Sicily.

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And so between those two international
families, with in excess of probably 5,000

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assassins, nobody with any lack of faith
is going to cross them.

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And that's where we are today.

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I wonder if Kennedy understood how
serious, how in danger he was when he gave

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that speech.

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Of course he did.

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I have a quote from Tim Jones Jr. in one
of the four books he wrote on Forgive My

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Grief.

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And there's a quote right in there,
this is taken from Kennedy's secretary.

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She said, he said, if they want to get me,
they can get me even in church.

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That's what he said.

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So he had determined that he was going to
die.

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But he set out, and he refused to go along
with it, and he sought to break their

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power.

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And it was very intriguing that nobody
came to his aid or rescue, nobody of any

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race, of any religion, including Billy
Graham, the 33rd degree Freemason.

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He knows all about the Jesuit Kennedy
assassination.

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Yet do you think he'd say a word?

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All, we have been completely betrayed from
the pulpit, the statesman, the academia,

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the artists, they have betrayed us.

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And so therefore we have to go back and
dig up these works and start over again.

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Yeah, and you know, it's interesting if
you look at some of Kennedy's,

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the changes he made.

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He was hitting them right where it hurts,
so to speak.

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And that means in the Federal Reserve he
wanted to get rid of, he wanted to

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completely abolish the Black Pope's
international network of the CIA,

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the KGB, the Mossad, all working together
at high levels.

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And also wanted to expose the secret
societies.

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So I mean, he was really, you know...

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And he was against the Mafia, too.

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There wasn't any enemy he did not engage.

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And every Baptist preacher, every true
Protestant preacher should have united

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behind him and gave him all kinds of moral
support and took those very same messages

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to the pulpit.

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And he's absolutely right in what he says.

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Can a Roman Catholic say something true?

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Can a Roman Catholic say something right?

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Of course they can!

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And so therefore it should have been
repeated in all these pulpits,

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the JFK, although we feared for him,
for our concerns that he's a Roman

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Catholic.

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He's obviously repudiated the temple power
of the Pope.

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He doesn't allow Spelman in the White
House.

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He doesn't allow Spelman to say Mass in
the White House.

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He refuses Spelman any access to the CIA.

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He completely broke the back of what
Eisenhower had created.

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Right.

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And thus he was killed.

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And was immediately put back in place by
that coadjutor Lyndon Baines Johnson,

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that Freemason out of Texas, whose
greatest friend was Wernher Ball

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Schneider, the Catholic priest out of
Stonewall, Texas, who was at the OBJ's

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funeral with Billy Graham.

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I have a picture in my book of them both.

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Right.

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You know, I wanted to get into something
here real quick in this last 10 or 15

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minutes, and then we'll have another hour
to discuss the topic I wanted to,

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and that is what can we do to solve this
problem.

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But I wanted to talk about the European
Union.

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Now, people don't know that the Vatican,
well, they may know, the tax-exempt status

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in Italy has made it possible for the
Vatican to manipulate financially many of

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the largest multinational corporations.

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But the powerful influence is nothing when
compared with the Vatican's power in the

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world of European politics and religion.

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A Jesuit priest said this when he wrote
inside the Vatican.

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He said, despite the importance of the
papacy for the Catholic Church and its

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prominent role in international affairs,
its internal workings are little known to

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Catholics, to world leaders, or to the
world at large.

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This general lack of public awareness is
particularly noticeable with regard to the

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influential role the Vatican has long been
maintaining in connection with the

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development of the European Union,
which their plans then are to create the

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American Union of Mexico, Canada,
and America.

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Tell us about, you know, this is just
another, what I consider, the New World

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Order led by the Vatican, taking control
of Europe and then America right after.

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What are your thoughts?

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That's absolutely right.

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As I cover my book, I cover the second
Thirty Years' War.

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Remember the Jesuits started the first
Thirty Years' War in 1618, and it lasted

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until 1648.

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And at the end of that war, all modern
historians will tell you, begins the

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modern era, when inventions begin to take
off, and the middle class begins to be

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created, and national sovereignties begin
to be established, and the temporal power

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of the Pope is broken in northern European
nations.

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I mean, this is a very important date of
1648.

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And so what the Jesuits did is,
in 1914, they started their second Thirty

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Years' War.

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And it raged from 1945.

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And in that second Thirty Years' War,
they eliminated the nations and the

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leaders of those nations who had been
their enemies for over a hundred years.

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And so after they had eliminated
Protestant Prussia, and they had destroyed

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the British Empire with German U-boat
submarines, destroying over 600 ships that

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linked the Protestant British Empire
together, after they had destroyed the

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Russian Empire and the Romanov Dynasty,
that was the protector of the heretic and

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liberal Russian Orthodox Church,
after they had destroyed the perfidious,

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quote-unquote, Jews out of Europe,
by first confining them to the pale of

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settlement, and then using Stalin and
Hitler to kill them off from both

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directions, because, you know,
Jews were not allowed to retreat into

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Russia, which totally destroyed the
argument that Jews ran Russia.

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If they did, they would have allowed all
the Jews to flee from Poland into Russia.

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But they were no man's land.

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They were forbidden to flee, because they
were in this pincer between Stalin and

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Hitler.

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So after all financed, by the way,
by Henry Ford and other huge cartel

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capitalists out of New York City and
London, financing both sides.

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So after World War II, then, the Jesuits
then helped their greatest Nazis to escape

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out of their rat lines, and they merged
the NKVD and the OSS into new agencies,

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using the old masters of the SS and the
SD.

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A portion of them went into each
intelligence agency.

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And so they were busy creating the
international intelligence community

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during the Cold War, under the false
pretense that we can have thermonuclear

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war, airborne nuclear war, which I have
said many times, there is no proof of

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mutually assured destruction, and airborne
nuclear war, there is no proof for that.

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And so therefore they put this Cold War
upon us, and what happens is called the

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violent peace.

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The CIA commits 10 million murders during
the time of the Cold War, according to

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what John Stockman, who was one of the
first defectors out of the CIA,

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and he tells the truth.

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And so they are busy using their
intelligence agencies to further kill off

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the leaders of nations, because they
cannot allow any national sovereignty to

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exist in any nation.

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We must destroy their political leaders,
we must destroy their racial identities,

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we must destroy their language,
we must mix the languages, we must destroy

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their historic cultures, and so they were
busy doing this during the Cold War.

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And so now what we have is the Jesuits now
destroying what was once white Anglo-Saxon

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Protestant Northern Europe, and white
Anglo-Saxon Protestant North America,

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and also white Anglo-Saxon Protestant
South Africa and Zimbabwe.

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So they are busy finishing off these last
bastions of the greatest resistors to

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their temporal power, and in North America
here they are busy merging Roman Catholic

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Mexico, which has been destroyed thanks to
NAFTA and GATT, via Bill Clinton and Lee

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Iacocca, Knight of Malta, Iacocca,
Kennedy Assassin.

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And they are busy creating their I-35
highway, which will be the I-69 corridor,

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for the purpose of our invaders when they
come up into North America.

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So the Jesuits' plans for the 21st century
is to completely destroy what is left of

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the Protestant Reformation, including the
Bill of Rights and the Constitution,

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any real freedoms that we've had,
and bring the world under international

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Jesuit fascism with the pillars of
communism controlling the culture.

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Yeah, and it's vitally important,
I think, if the nations of Europe and

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America remain free, then we have to wake
up to what they are doing, both in Europe

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right now, and tackle this critical issue
of Rome.

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And it's just so depressing that this
country, the supposed leader of freedom,

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which we know is a falsehood, probably is
the only one that could possibly stand in

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the way, and we have been sold out by the
most important branch, and that's our

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media, who could alert people to this.

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And they are not doing it, and they're
collecting money, going to the bank,

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while this country will slowly fall into
the hands of Rome and the Jesuits.

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We have to remember that America,
this is what we call America, has been in

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the hands of the Vatican, certainly no
later than Grover Cleveland, especially

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with the Kennedy assassination,
when the Jesuits killed Kennedy.

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But from 1901, the fascist symbol of the
fascists began to be displayed in the

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House of Representatives.

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I saw it there when FDR declared war,
when the Congress declared war in 1941,

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those fascist symbols were there in the
House.

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So we have had, in fact, de facto fascism
in an American empire created by this 14th

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Amendment, and this empire, with its
Federal Reserve Bank, and its vast

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resources, and men, this tremendous
military power that's been built and

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financed by the Federal Reserve Bank,
has been used to just restore the Pope's

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temple power around the world,
and to kill heretics and liberals around

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the world for the last 100 years,
and this is merely a continuation in Iraq

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of what's been done since the days of the
Spanish-American War.

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So for this to change, American people are
going to have to realize that our country

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has been taken over, and it has been taken
over, for over 100 years, and they have to

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start moving to resolve the problem.

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One of the first things is, humanly
speaking, is the Jesuits have to be

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expelled from this country, and it has to
be done by way of the government.

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That means the Jesuits have to be broken
of their death grip over the Justice

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Department.

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In fact, when you go into the Justice
Department of Washington, D.C.,

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there's a fence there, and a gate,
and as those gates open, on the inner ends

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of those gates, as it opens together,
are the symbol of a Roman fascist.

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A bundle of rods with an axe protruding at
the top.

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The Justice Department is fascist,
and it's run by the Jesuits, and will

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protect them, and they will never be
expelled unless the Justice Department is

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taken back.

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Yeah, and the Church of Rome is one of the
major players in this totalitarianism of

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the New World Order, and just look at what
they've done in Europe, and this is the

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unfolding of the major global strategy,
and you're seeing the Fourth Reich now,

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I think, emerge out of its embryo,
is the way I look at this, happening here

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now, and it's about time Americans realize
that this government has sold out.

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So, to get to that point, where the
government expels the Jesuits,

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we've got a job to do to get the right
people in government again.

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That's right.

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And there are those that seem to be right,
like Ron Paul.

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I mean, he advocates doing away with the
Socialist-Communist income tax,

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which is a violation of our Fifth
Amendment right, trying to compel us to

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make admissions and confessions on a tax
return every year, which is typical Roman,

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because you see, the Jesuits have designed
this government of the Empire precisely as

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they run their Vatican Empire,
because every Roman Catholic is supposed

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to go to confession once a year.

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Well, now, every citizen of the Fourteenth
Amendment is supposed to go to confession

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every year, and it's called filing a tax
return.

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They've patterned it perfectly as they run
the Vatican Empire pursuant to canon law.

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So, when Americans begin to wake up and
realize that the Vatican has taken over,

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that the Archbishop of New York is really
the President, the King of this Empire,

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and there is no political individual who
will dare disobey him, because they all

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cower at his feet.

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They're in St. Patrick's Cathedral hoping
for his blessing that they can be in some

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kind of governmental position.

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The other thing is, the Jesuits with their
28 universities, their graduates go into

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every facet of life.

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Sports, entertainment, politics,
law, medicine, inventions.

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The Jesuits are the gatekeepers of the
Patent Office.

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Anybody who comes out with an anti-gravity
craft that can actually fly on an

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alternative fuel and be anti-gravity,
it's all stifled because the Jesuits run

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the Patent Office, and they will not grant
a patent for that.

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Because they control all that technology,
and they don't want us goofballs,

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us animals, to be able to enjoy the
technology they enjoy.

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So, when we begin to wake up to their
absolute dictatorial control, that we are

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nothing more than Federal Reserve people.

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That's all we are.

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The Jesuits look at us, and everybody they
see, they say they're ours, they belong to

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us, they're all in commerce, they're all
trading commercial paper, they all get

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their loans from our credit from the
Federal Reserve, their government is,

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it's very lifeblood, is dependent on our
loans from the Federal Reserve.

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Americans are nothing more than Federal
Reserve people, they own nothing,

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they have nothing, and they're all broke.

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They all think they own something,
but they don't.

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So, that's how the Jesuits look at us,
and therefore, since we own these people,

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since we own their bank, since we own the
clothes on their back, why can't we draft

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them and send them off to our crusades to
kill people that we want to have killed,

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and might as well kill some of them too
while we're at it.

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Like, for example, the invasion of Omaha
Beach, where it was primarily Protestants

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that were put on the Omaha Beach,
and they deliberately bombed the ocean,

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they bombed behind the lines, so that the
majority of those American soldiers could

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be whacked by the German machine gunners.

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I mean, this is the kind of things they
do, that's why they want to know your dog

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tag, what's your religion on your dog tag,
so they know where to send you.

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It's a conspiracy so large, as J.

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Edgar Hoover said in 1954, that it boggles
your mind, and we need to begin to wake up

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and not call it a conspiracy theory,
this is reality, because this is exactly

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what Jesuits, canon law, and immoral
theologians have called for.

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Yeah, and I mean, all we have to do is
look at Iraq today, over a million Iraqis

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killed...

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Is it a million now, Greg?

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Yeah.

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Terrible.

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That's what they've heard.

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We said it would be a war of annihilation.

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Yeah.

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We knew it was going to be a war of
annihilation as soon as they went over

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there.

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And you know what I've also found?

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The only guys, the only soldiers that came
out against this were two black soldiers.

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I haven't seen any white soldiers come out
and say anything.

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Now that one black soldier that was on for
a day before they yanked him off,

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that Eric, what was his name?

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Yeah, I can't remember.

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The other guy in Rousseau's work for
Freedom of Fashion, he was a black fellow

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Marine.

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He said, I'm not going back there to kill
any more poor people.

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I haven't seen one white soldier to refuse
to go back to Iraq, but we're committing

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annihilation over there.

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So hopefully someone will not disappoint
us and come out and tell us, we're not

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going back either.

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It's a war of annihilation.

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And yeah, I mean, it's so obvious that
they're using our youth to kill off the

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Iraqis.

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And this is not going to end.

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I mean, this is just the beginning of what
their plans are, no matter what the

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government tells you to pacify you.

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Oh, we may remove the troops next year and
lower the number, but we have to look at

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the final analysis from our generals.

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And I just think America... and then to
see the lackluster resistance put up now

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everywhere in this country, it makes me
wonder if the American people aren't just

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resigned to what's happening and say,
well, we can't do anything.

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What can we do?

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I wonder about that.

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What's your thoughts?

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I think there's much truth to that.

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Look at the attitude they take towards
filing the income tax return.

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I've never met anybody who wants to do it.

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I've met many people that say,
I have to waive my Fifth Amendment right

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to do it.

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But you know what?

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The vast majority of the World War II
generation, the baby boomers, they all

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went along with it.

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They all had fear and terror of the
Internal Revenue Service.

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And you know what now?

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There's something a lot more terrifying
than those sinners.

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And that is the Department of Homeland
Security.

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When those monsters are unleashed upon us
after we get our next 9-11 event,

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and after Mecca and Medina are blown,
they'll make the IRS and the BATF and all

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these other alphabet agencies seem like
Boy Scouts.

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Because we didn't resist our invaders at
our doorstep, now we will have to resist

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them at our hearts.

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And that's always a much more dangerous
place than at the doorstep.

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Yes, you're right.

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The American people have resigned
themselves to this.

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And hopefully the Lord would send a
revival as certain of God's men would

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begin to preach the true gospel and return
to the King James Bible.

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And people would have courage and faith
once again to resist even though the odds,

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quote-unquote, are against them.

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Yeah, and then I love people who say,
once you get into the religious aspect of

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this, so many Americans have become so
apathetic to even the thought that

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religion could be playing a part in this.

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And the Vatican could be using it as a
deception as they have over the centuries.

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And I think that that is another key
element here, that we must start exposing

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the Vatican as well as other religious
people for what they really are.

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Absolutely.

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And I put it in quotes, call themselves
religious.

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And then the apathetic Americans saying,
oh, they can't even be involved in this.

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It's a perfect plan they've got set up.

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We've got to break it.

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We'll be back after this short message.

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Hey, we're back for the second hour of the
Investigative Journal today.

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I'm your host, Greg Szymanski,
and I'll be here for the next hour.

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And I'm here every day on LibertyRadioLive
.com from 4pm to 6pm Pacific time.

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And also, you can go and look at my
website at www.ArcticBeacon.com,

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and you can read about the Jesuits and
many other things that we talk about on

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this radio program.

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And I also recommend you go to
VaticanAssassins, and I believe that's

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.org, right?

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VaticanAssassins.org?

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And you can get a lot of Eric's writings
and also a copy of his latest 1500-plus

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page book, Vatican Assassins III,
and it's well worth reading for the

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reasons that we've stated many times on
this show.

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And I wanted to make something clear to my
listeners.

54:44.100 --> 54:52.000
This is not a show, a potpourri of
interviews done daily to entertain you or

54:52.000 --> 54:58.780
to awaken you about the latest little
piece of minutia about 9-11 or the little

54:58.780 --> 55:04.660
piece of minutia about when the government
is going to attack again, like many other

55:04.660 --> 55:05.480
shows do.

55:06.560 --> 55:11.820
In the past, I've whittled down my message
to this very important message,

55:11.960 --> 55:15.700
and that is the Vatican-led New World
Order in all its tentacles.

55:16.360 --> 55:21.760
And I do it for a reason, because I wanted
it to be an educational program based on

55:21.760 --> 55:24.220
the fact that no one's covering this
anywhere.

55:24.220 --> 55:30.760
The guests that I bring on, like Eric
Phelps, are left to talk in a very small

55:30.760 --> 55:33.580
market where they should be in a very
large market.

55:34.140 --> 55:37.860
And some of my critics have said,
well, Greg, why don't you talk about some

55:37.860 --> 55:38.380
other thing?

55:38.920 --> 55:45.140
And I said, I will talk about other things
once you put my guests on the major

55:45.140 --> 55:51.020
networks, once Alex Jones and John
Statmore put all these guests on,

55:51.420 --> 55:56.520
and they're on on a basis equal to how
they blame the Jews, how they blame the

55:56.520 --> 55:59.300
geopolitical banking organizations.

55:59.520 --> 56:04.580
And once there's an equality there,
I promise I'll do other things.

56:05.180 --> 56:10.640
But until that day happens, I won't,
because there's no one that needs to be

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told, and the message needs to get out,
and it needs to be done in a repetitive

56:15.200 --> 56:20.100
manner if these other organizations are
hiding it and actually bringing down this

56:20.100 --> 56:22.280
country, and it's going to lead to your
demise, folks.

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That I'm sure of, and I've learned that by
just talking to all the people and reading

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all the hidden stuff that I could not
believe.

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And I say also to my critics, I say,
you know what, I lived over there for six

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years.

56:37.200 --> 56:42.060
I lived with these people, although I was
quite naive back in 1979 through 85.

56:42.340 --> 56:43.780
I saw what they did in Italy.

56:44.600 --> 56:47.860
I saw the scandals, and now I put the
pieces together.

56:48.620 --> 56:52.720
And with that personal experience,
together with the factual information

56:52.720 --> 57:00.860
that's come out, to me, this message is
not going to stop until these other people

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start covering it, which they may never do
because they might be on the payroll.

57:05.600 --> 57:09.000
Or I can get an interview with Father Hans
Kolvenbach, who I've tried to do,

57:09.040 --> 57:10.040
and he won't talk to me.

57:10.360 --> 57:13.100
And that's the leader of the Jesuits,
and I figured, why not?

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I'm a Catholic boy.

57:14.880 --> 57:16.140
Why can't he talk to me?

57:16.180 --> 57:16.860
He's a priest.

57:17.680 --> 57:21.160
If I have some doubts, Father,
tell me about it.

57:21.240 --> 57:21.960
Talk to me.

57:22.720 --> 57:23.820
You know, I have a law degree.

57:24.040 --> 57:28.340
I can sit and talk with you intelligently,
but he won't speak to me.

57:28.340 --> 57:29.320
I've tried.

57:29.440 --> 57:32.800
I've went all the way up to the Washington
Assistancy to get an interview,

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and I'm going to start trying again and
rattle their chains a little bit more.

57:36.920 --> 57:39.800
But these guys, Eric, do not want to talk
about facts.

57:40.300 --> 57:40.440
No.

57:41.060 --> 57:47.520
You have penetrated their armor by
becoming familiar with their doctrines and

57:47.520 --> 57:52.480
their true history, and that they will not
talk with anybody about outside of their

57:52.480 --> 57:52.680
order.

57:53.520 --> 57:55.600
But here's something I'd like to read to
you.

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It's a quote from Eugene Hsu.

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I recommend that readers find the book The
Wandering Jew.

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It's in two volumes, and you need to get
an older volume because the new ones have

58:05.740 --> 58:06.400
been censored.

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Here we read in volume one on page 312,
313, the following quote.

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And this is a Jesuit who is speaking.

58:15.000 --> 58:19.880
What ought not to be sacrificed in order
to reign in secret over the all-powerful

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of the earth, who lord it in full day?

58:23.340 --> 58:28.940
This journey to Rome, from which I have
just returned, has given me a new idea of

58:28.940 --> 58:30.160
our formidable power.

58:30.980 --> 58:35.700
For it is Rome which is the culminating
point, overlooking the fairest and

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broadest quarters of the globe,
made so by custom, by tradition,

58:39.920 --> 58:40.520
or by faith.

58:41.520 --> 58:44.460
Thence can our workings be embraced in
their full extent.

58:44.460 --> 58:51.140
It is an uncommon view to see from its
height the myriad tools whose personality

58:51.140 --> 58:55.680
is continually absorbed into the immovable
personality of our order.

58:56.560 --> 58:58.220
What a might we possess!

58:59.180 --> 59:05.200
Verily I am always swayed with admiration,
I almost frightened, that man once thinks,

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wishes, believes, and acts as he alone
lists, until, soon ours, he becomes but a

59:11.880 --> 59:12.600
human shell.

59:12.600 --> 59:18.020
His kernel of intelligence, mind,
reason, conscience, and free will,

59:18.360 --> 59:23.320
shriveled within him, dry and withered by
the habit of mutely, fearingly,

59:23.400 --> 59:27.940
bowing under mysterious tasks,
which shatter and slay everything

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spontaneous in the human soul.

59:30.720 --> 59:35.960
Then do we infuse as such spiritless clay,
speechless, cold, and motionless as

59:35.960 --> 59:40.860
corpses, the breath of our order,
and lo, the dry bones stand up and walk,

59:40.860 --> 59:45.760
acting and executing, though only within
the limits which are circled round and

59:45.760 --> 59:46.320
evermore.

59:46.940 --> 59:51.560
Thus do they become mere limbs of the
gigantic trunk, whose impulses they

59:51.560 --> 59:56.500
mechanically carry out, while ignorant of
the design, like the stone-cutter who

59:56.500 --> 01:00:01.540
shapes out a stone, unaware if it be for
cathedral or bagnale to baffle.

01:00:02.060 --> 01:00:06.280
But now, in spite of the misfortunes which
have befallen the order, and it's 1848,

01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:11.000
I feel myself a thousand times more ready
for action, more authoritative,

01:00:11.560 --> 01:00:15.900
more strong, and more daring, at the head
of our mute and black-robed militia,

01:00:16.340 --> 01:00:21.680
who only think, or wish, or move and obey,
mechanically, according to my will.

01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:26.740
On a sign they scatter over the face of
the globe, gliding stealthily into

01:00:26.740 --> 01:00:31.000
households under the guise of confessing
the life or teaching the children,

01:00:31.460 --> 01:00:36.540
into family affairs by hearing the dying
of owls, up to the throne through the

01:00:36.540 --> 01:00:41.380
quaking conscience of a credulous,
crowned coward, ay, even to the chair of

01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:46.960
the Pope himself, living manifesto of a
godhead though he is, by the services

01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.120
rendered him, or imposed by him.

01:00:49.820 --> 01:00:55.760
Is not this secret rule made to kindle or
glut the wildest ambition, as it reaches

01:00:55.760 --> 01:01:00.400
from the cradle to the grave, from the
laborer's hovel to the royal palace,

01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:02.880
from the palace to the papal chair?

01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:09.180
That's Eugene Sue, in his masterpiece,
The Wandering Jew, which is really a

01:01:09.180 --> 01:01:14.140
suppressed book these days, and not read
in any major college literature course.

01:01:14.890 --> 01:01:17.160
Yeah, powerful words.

01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:27.260
And by the way, Eugene Sue, because of his
work, when in 1852, when there was a coup

01:01:27.260 --> 01:01:33.100
d 'etat, and Napoleon III became emperor,
he was driven from France, and never

01:01:33.100 --> 01:01:35.700
allowed to return, and died in exile.

01:01:37.600 --> 01:01:38.080
Unbelievable.

01:01:40.220 --> 01:01:45.400
And these are kind of things that you're
not going to get, I mean, one of the most

01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:48.740
interesting things is the Jesuits call
themselves the great educators,

01:01:49.240 --> 01:01:54.720
but I think their major role is to keep
the books on the shelf they want you to

01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:59.780
read, and to take off the books that they
don't want you to read, and many of them

01:01:59.780 --> 01:02:02.940
have to do with criticisms and facts about
their history.

01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.440
And I, you know, one thing I asked,
I asked a number of Jesuits in these

01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:13.040
assistancies, I'd call them, and I
remember talking to a couple of their

01:02:13.040 --> 01:02:17.960
historians, and I started reeling off some
of these books, and they said they had no

01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:21.160
idea about them, that this was ever
written about the Jesuits.

01:02:21.740 --> 01:02:23.020
And I find that unbelievable.

01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:28.220
If I can find it, how can a historian
that's been trained for 14 years in the

01:02:28.220 --> 01:02:30.160
Jesuit order not know about them?

01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:31.440
Exactly right.

01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:35.520
And they're very familiar with the priests
who have left the order, or the priests

01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:38.620
who have left Catholicism, and they're
very familiar with their books,

01:02:38.860 --> 01:02:39.260
like Fr.

01:02:39.380 --> 01:02:44.900
Tinoquis, 50 Years in the Church of Rome,
I have another one here called Dialogues,

01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:49.860
Dealings with the Inquisition by Dr.
Achille, who was a priest.

01:02:49.860 --> 01:02:55.240
We have Papal Rome, we have another one
here, the Kingdom of Seleucus,

01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:55.620
England.

01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:57.960
You know, they're all Catholic priests who
left the order.

01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.200
They fled to England where they could have
protection there because it was a

01:03:01.200 --> 01:03:01.920
Protestant nation.

01:03:02.260 --> 01:03:03.420
And then they wrote all their works.

01:03:03.500 --> 01:03:03.880
You have G.B.

01:03:04.020 --> 01:03:05.680
Nicolini writing History of the Jesuits
there.

01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:06.760
He was an Italian.

01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:11.360
He fled Italy and took up residence in
England and warned the English people that

01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:14.180
the Jesuits were going to overthrow
England and the British Empire,

01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:15.720
and of course, very few of them listened.

01:03:15.720 --> 01:03:19.060
But he wrote his great work, History of
the Jesuits, there from London.

01:03:19.560 --> 01:03:23.580
So all these priests, and there are many
hundreds of them, have written works

01:03:23.580 --> 01:03:27.640
exposing the Jesuits, the duplicity of the
Vatican, the Pope's temporal power,

01:03:28.040 --> 01:03:33.300
assassinations and murders, and they have
used their secret societies like Skull and

01:03:33.300 --> 01:03:39.940
Bones and like the Knights of Columbus and
high-level Freemasons in academia to

01:03:39.940 --> 01:03:40.840
suppress these books.

01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.060
I never forget when I went to a book sale
at a major university around here,

01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:47.640
and I found 50 years in the Church of Rome
for 10 cents!

01:03:49.160 --> 01:03:52.720
The Doctrines of Pius IV for 25 cents!

01:03:53.080 --> 01:03:57.100
I found 50... I found a... Pope Repoussism
and Jesuitism, one of the greatest

01:03:57.100 --> 01:04:00.560
masterpieces written by an ex-priest on
the power of the Jesuits ever written,

01:04:00.640 --> 01:04:05.180
written in the late 1800s, founded for 75
cents!

01:04:06.420 --> 01:04:11.140
So they have deliberately purged the
libraries of the greatest works,

01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.760
of the greatest exposés on them,
because they don't want any honest,

01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:17.800
critical thinker to evaluate them.

01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:23.700
And I remember the interview he did a
while back with the former Archbishop of

01:04:23.700 --> 01:04:25.380
Guatemala, Gerard Bouffard.

01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:25.900
The Bishop.

01:04:27.420 --> 01:04:29.360
And this was another example.

01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:33.780
Now, he was a liaison between the Black
Pope and the Pope, and he verified

01:04:33.780 --> 01:04:38.260
everything in, you know, that you,
we talked about, and added some of the

01:04:38.260 --> 01:04:40.120
things, you know, very credible.

01:04:40.260 --> 01:04:44.320
He lives in Canada now, and I've tried to
get him on the show, but he's very ill,

01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:46.440
and I know...

01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.040
You know, as I mentioned to you,
he said he won't come back, because he was

01:04:49.040 --> 01:04:52.740
told by some intelligence people up there
to shut your mouth, and you're not going

01:04:52.740 --> 01:04:53.900
to go back on that show anymore.

01:04:54.140 --> 01:04:55.380
So that's why he won't come back.

01:04:56.340 --> 01:04:56.540
Yeah.

01:04:56.540 --> 01:05:00.920
Because you know, remember, British and
Canadian intelligence, Canadian Secret

01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.680
Intelligence Service, CSIS, is nothing but
a tentacle of the CIA.

01:05:05.540 --> 01:05:07.260
And so they do what they're told from
Washington.

01:05:08.180 --> 01:05:10.760
Same way with the FBI, same way with the
Royal Canadian Mounted Police,

01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:15.180
they're all a tentacle of the Vatican,
and anybody who seriously has any

01:05:15.180 --> 01:05:18.960
credibility to come out and expose this,
they are told to shut their mouth.

01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:20.480
Right.

01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:25.920
And I remember he brought some interesting
information, verifying much of what we

01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:30.220
talked about, about the Jesuit orders and
tensions, the Vatican role in the New

01:05:30.220 --> 01:05:34.780
World Order, and this comes from the mouth
of a former Archbishop of Guatemala,

01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:39.560
who I might add is now a born-again
Christian.

01:05:39.940 --> 01:05:40.460
That's right.

01:05:40.620 --> 01:05:45.540
And when I was there to visit him a couple
years ago, he showed me his broken

01:05:45.540 --> 01:05:46.220
bishop's ring.

01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:49.720
Because whenever a man ceases to be a
bishop, they break the ring open,

01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:55.040
they take out a certain seal, the tenet,
but he showed me his broken bishop's ring.

01:05:55.080 --> 01:05:57.600
He'd been in the Knights of Columbus,
he had the sword, the outfit, the whole

01:05:57.600 --> 01:05:58.560
thing of the Knights of Columbus.

01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:02.680
He'd been inducted into high-level
Freemasonry within a certain Catholic

01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:03.480
cathedral up there.

01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.240
He showed me all his regalia and all his
uniforms, yeah.

01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:12.140
And he mentioned that he was in the
higher-level Freemason, and that many

01:06:12.140 --> 01:06:13.840
archbishops are around the world.

01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:14.480
That's right.

01:06:15.580 --> 01:06:16.860
And then he's threatened.

01:06:17.380 --> 01:06:18.640
So what does that tell you, folks?

01:06:18.700 --> 01:06:23.040
If a guy is so credible as him,
is threatened, and can't come on the show

01:06:23.040 --> 01:06:26.360
again, don't you think there's an ounce of
credibility in what we're talking about?

01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:30.120
And don't you think there's really a
reason for why they want to blame the

01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:32.800
Jews, and why they want to keep this
message off?

01:06:32.900 --> 01:06:36.980
Because this is really how you're going to
destroy the New World Order, and they

01:06:36.980 --> 01:06:38.820
don't want anybody to know about it.

01:06:38.820 --> 01:06:43.280
Because tell you what, what happened to
Kennedy, we talked about that earlier.

01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.440
And there's another interview I remember.

01:06:45.560 --> 01:06:51.880
There was a guy named Jim Arabito,
who had done a lot of exposing in the 90s

01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:56.700
of the Jesuit Order, and he was on a world
mission to expose this.

01:06:56.700 --> 01:07:04.340
In fact, I pulled an interview that he did
with Father Alberto Rivera, a former

01:07:04.340 --> 01:07:06.140
Jesuit priest who was killed by them.

01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:11.560
And it's just enlightening information
that's been suppressed.

01:07:12.240 --> 01:07:18.680
And as the Jesuits would have it,
Jim Arabito was killed in an Alaskan plane

01:07:18.680 --> 01:07:22.880
crash when he was on his mission to expose
these people.

01:07:24.060 --> 01:07:27.740
It's the same way they did to John Jr.,
JFK Jr., sure.

01:07:28.660 --> 01:07:31.020
He wanted to find his father's killer.

01:07:31.180 --> 01:07:32.540
He had $100 million to spend.

01:07:32.980 --> 01:07:34.920
He was definitely a threat.

01:07:35.620 --> 01:07:37.860
They killed Kennedy just like they killed
James Arabito.

01:07:38.700 --> 01:07:40.020
Yeah, yeah.

01:07:40.460 --> 01:07:44.020
And you know, it's just amazing.

01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:50.900
And I remember I've also had Nury Rivera
on, and that's Father Alberto Rivera's

01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:56.340
wife, who talked about how she's been
threatened by the Jesuits and verifies the

01:07:56.340 --> 01:08:01.920
story that he was killed because of his
exposition of the Jesuit Order and the

01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:03.000
things that we talk about.

01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:07.100
So it's there, being covered up.

01:08:07.700 --> 01:08:14.440
And hopefully, my only hope is that many
more people do some research and begin to

01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:17.320
expose this in many more places on the
Internet.

01:08:17.980 --> 01:08:23.540
And my hope is that someday we'll see it
in the mainstream media, because that will

01:08:23.540 --> 01:08:26.140
be the sign that our country is getting
healthy again.

01:08:26.140 --> 01:08:32.840
Eric, I know you wanted to talk about how
to confront these people, how to

01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:38.040
successfully live in this type of world,
and what to do to, in a sense,

01:08:38.140 --> 01:08:41.280
try and defeat this Vatican-led New World
Order.

01:08:41.360 --> 01:08:44.180
And I wanted to go over with... because we
tried that last time.

01:08:44.240 --> 01:08:45.160
We didn't get through it all.

01:08:45.540 --> 01:08:47.360
And I know you had a lot more to say about
that.

01:08:47.360 --> 01:08:49.980
The last time we got, Greg, about another
40 minutes or so?

01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:50.920
Yeah, yeah.

01:08:51.100 --> 01:08:51.360
Okay.

01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:54.800
This is a recap a little bit.

01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:56.920
We have to remember the Dark Ages.

01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:02.540
The Dark Ages, before the Jesuits existed,
was run by the papacy.

01:09:03.340 --> 01:09:07.820
The top orders were Franciscans,
Dominicans, Benedictines, Augustinians,

01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:08.180
etc.

01:09:09.010 --> 01:09:15.720
And the papacy was running Papal Europe,
and they had an Inquisition that ran

01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:17.960
throughout all the nations in Europe.

01:09:18.160 --> 01:09:20.860
That was their international intelligence
community.

01:09:21.500 --> 01:09:23.880
It was the Holy Office of the Inquisition.

01:09:24.500 --> 01:09:30.060
And when anybody was ever accused,
secretly accused... the accused were not

01:09:30.060 --> 01:09:31.520
allowed to see their accuser.

01:09:31.940 --> 01:09:35.620
Whenever they were secretly accused of
saying anything bad about the Pope,

01:09:35.860 --> 01:09:40.400
or bad about one of the kings that the
Pope was using to rule that country,

01:09:41.120 --> 01:09:42.960
they would be arrested at night.

01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:47.900
The Inquisitor, dressed in red,
would bang on the door, and then people

01:09:47.900 --> 01:09:48.500
would come to the door.

01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:48.900
Who was it?

01:09:48.980 --> 01:09:49.820
The Holy Office.

01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.160
And struck with fear and terror,
the door would slam open.

01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.960
They would grab the person, the man of the
house, arrest him, take him down,

01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:00.860
and torture a confession out of him.

01:10:01.420 --> 01:10:07.220
And then once he confessed to his crime,
like the Russian KGB and KVD, then they

01:10:07.220 --> 01:10:09.700
handed him over to the secular arm to be
burned.

01:10:09.700 --> 01:10:14.800
After that, they confiscated all of his
wealth and all of his land and property.

01:10:15.820 --> 01:10:20.080
So the Inquisition today, through the
Black Pope's international intelligence

01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:21.300
community, works the same way.

01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:23.620
And the IRS is a part of that.

01:10:23.620 --> 01:10:29.080
And this is what the Jesuits have sought
to do, to restore the blessed despotism of

01:10:29.080 --> 01:10:29.800
the Dark Ages.

01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:33.800
And there's a book called, The 13th
Century, The Greatest of Centuries.

01:10:34.460 --> 01:10:39.540
And in it, these Jesuit co-adjutants call
for the restoration of the 13th Century,

01:10:39.580 --> 01:10:41.220
when the Pope was the universal monarch of
Europe.

01:10:41.980 --> 01:10:44.080
And that's exactly what they want to do
now.

01:10:44.500 --> 01:10:49.880
And so what happened is, they had this
power, you had the immorality of the

01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.280
Vatican, the mass murder going on
throughout Europe for several hundred

01:10:53.280 --> 01:10:53.740
years.

01:10:54.140 --> 01:10:57.960
And all of a sudden, God raised up a man,
a few men.

01:10:59.280 --> 01:11:05.600
Martin Luther, William Tyndale,
John Calvin, and a few others who believed

01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:06.220
the gospel.

01:11:06.900 --> 01:11:10.880
Jesus Christ had died for their sins
according to the scriptures, was buried

01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:14.180
and rose again, and coming back,
1 Corinthians 15, and that they were

01:11:14.180 --> 01:11:19.920
champions of justification by faith alone,
not by any works of righteousness,

01:11:20.140 --> 01:11:20.880
which we would do.

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:24.280
But by the simple grace of God,
that we're saved by grace through faith

01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:25.180
and not of ourselves.

01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:28.280
The gift of God, not of works,
as any man should boast.

01:11:28.620 --> 01:11:34.180
And when Luther realized justification by
faith alone, through grace alone,

01:11:34.620 --> 01:11:37.500
and the scriptures were the final
authority of faith and practice,

01:11:38.020 --> 01:11:41.020
he said, there's no more need for the
Pope.

01:11:41.860 --> 01:11:43.900
There's no more need for the papacy.

01:11:44.540 --> 01:11:47.720
And ultimately, he was expelled from the
papacy, because he rejected the word of

01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:53.560
God, and he became the great German
reformer, out of which the rest of the

01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:56.180
reformations took place, like in Holland
and in England.

01:11:56.180 --> 01:12:02.160
And what happened with this Protestant
Reformation, when the Bible was put into

01:12:02.160 --> 01:12:08.920
the hands of the common man in his own
language, he could now read God's maxims

01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:11.780
and his words for himself.

01:12:11.780 --> 01:12:17.680
And so, in applying these maxims to
everyday life, why these northern European

01:12:17.680 --> 01:12:22.440
nations broke the temporal, the political
power of the Pope over their nation,

01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:27.320
after they had broken his spiritual power
by believing on Christ, the one mediator

01:12:27.320 --> 01:12:29.600
between God and men, according to 1
Timothy 2.5.

01:12:30.380 --> 01:12:35.180
So, with the breaking of his temporal
power, we now have what's called national

01:12:35.180 --> 01:12:35.820
sovereignty.

01:12:35.820 --> 01:12:39.240
There was no national sovereignty in the
Dark Ages.

01:12:39.420 --> 01:12:44.340
If the king did not do what the Pope told
him to do, the Pope would relieve his

01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:46.180
subjects of their allegiance to him.

01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:51.100
And the first one that could get near him
and kill him would be doing God a service.

01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.940
So, there was no national sovereignty in
the Dark Ages, but now, with the Pope's

01:12:55.940 --> 01:12:59.800
temporal power broken, white national
sovereignty begins in Germany,

01:13:00.180 --> 01:13:04.820
it goes into Holland after an 80 year
civil war, it goes into England with

01:13:04.820 --> 01:13:09.640
Elizabeth and later Cromwell, and it also
finds its way over here with the creation

01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.440
of our Declaration of Independence and U
.S.

01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:12.080
Constitution.

01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:17.300
All the colonies were historically white
Anglo-Saxon, Presbyterian, and Baptist

01:13:17.300 --> 01:13:19.000
Calvinists, 97% of them.

01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:26.400
And so, what we have is the modern era
taking place after the 30 years war ending

01:13:26.400 --> 01:13:27.720
in 1648.

01:13:28.260 --> 01:13:32.920
And so, with the modern era taking place,
and national sovereignties arising,

01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:38.380
and a middle class with its own money
arising, using gold and silver coins,

01:13:38.620 --> 01:13:41.720
or currency redeemable and such,
because all the nations had gold and

01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:43.660
silver coins, Europe and here.

01:13:44.380 --> 01:13:48.680
What you had then was prosperity,
you had a middle class, you had

01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:53.060
inventions, you had science, you had
advancement of civilization like it had

01:13:53.060 --> 01:13:55.480
never advanced before, far beyond the
Renaissance.

01:13:56.540 --> 01:14:02.420
All because people embraced the Word of
God, the Reformation Bible, for English

01:14:02.420 --> 01:14:06.460
speaking people, the AB 1611, or if you
please, the Geneva Bible, which comes from

01:14:06.460 --> 01:14:08.180
the same essential Greek text.

01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:13.180
And with that, the blessing of God was on
those peoples, and that exalted their

01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:13.640
nations.

01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.900
And that's exactly what Proverbs says,
righteousness exalteth a nation.

01:14:17.900 --> 01:14:22.340
Well, how much more righteous can you be
is when God looks at you and He sees His

01:14:22.340 --> 01:14:22.660
Son?

01:14:23.120 --> 01:14:26.980
And when you obey His Word and keep His
commandments, then your nation,

01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:31.280
your community, your home becomes
prosperous and you begin to excel.

01:14:31.940 --> 01:14:37.480
Well, the Jesuits cannot have this,
so what we must do is we must destroy the

01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:42.740
very foundation of this historic white
Anglo-Saxon Western culture born out of

01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:43.280
the Reformation.

01:14:43.280 --> 01:14:46.100
So what we're going to do is we're going
to wage war.

01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:49.040
We're going to cause wars between these
Protestant nations like England and

01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:49.340
Germany.

01:14:49.620 --> 01:14:51.620
We'll get them to war and kill each other.

01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.700
And we will take the Bible out of their
hands.

01:14:54.780 --> 01:14:56.700
We'll split counterfeits in the hands of
these people.

01:14:56.980 --> 01:15:02.760
All come from a revision committee of
1870, the Westcott and Ward Greek text,

01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:04.960
which is really Pro Jerome's Latin Vulgate
Greek text.

01:15:05.200 --> 01:15:07.960
And we're going to make all these
different translations of this corrupted

01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:10.800
Greek text, and we're going to flood
England and we're going to flood America

01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:11.280
with it.

01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:14.840
And we're going to call it the American
Standard and the New American Standard and

01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:16.800
NIV and it goes on and on and on.

01:15:17.240 --> 01:15:21.100
And so with that, the people have
ignorantly departed from the word of God

01:15:21.100 --> 01:15:22.780
because their pastors are hirelings.

01:15:23.140 --> 01:15:24.440
They're not real pastors.

01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:28.200
They're not real men of God because men of
God will die for the sheep.

01:15:28.540 --> 01:15:31.300
They don't care if they die as long as
they're being obedient.

01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.660
And so now the Jesuits have replaced the
Bible with a book called the Bible,

01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:36.360
which it's not.

01:15:36.360 --> 01:15:38.100
And then they get control.

01:15:38.200 --> 01:15:41.280
Once they break the spiritual power of the
nation, like they broke our spiritual

01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:44.320
power here in America by 1900,
they took over the government.

01:15:44.780 --> 01:15:48.100
And once they took over the government,
the Pope's temple power was in place,

01:15:48.280 --> 01:15:50.520
and then they will execute canon law.

01:15:51.040 --> 01:15:51.920
So what did they do?

01:15:52.100 --> 01:15:58.780
They used America and the British Empire
and the German government to wage wars on

01:15:58.780 --> 01:16:03.100
populations that they wanted to see
destroyed, as well as their own

01:16:03.100 --> 01:16:03.780
populations.

01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:10.420
And so where we are now is we are at the
lowest ebb of the Reformation that I've

01:16:10.420 --> 01:16:14.720
ever seen in its history, and we're at the
greatest pinnacle of Jesuit power that

01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:15.380
we've ever seen.

01:16:15.900 --> 01:16:17.340
So what is the answer?

01:16:17.860 --> 01:16:21.100
The answer is we've got to do exactly what
our forefathers did.

01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:23.960
That's the only way we'll break their
spiritual power.

01:16:24.260 --> 01:16:28.380
No atheist is going to do it, no Muslim is
going to do it, no Roman Catholic devoted

01:16:28.380 --> 01:16:30.380
to the Pope is going to do it,
and no Jew is going to do it.

01:16:31.140 --> 01:16:36.460
It's going to take men who truly repented
their sins, believed on the Lord Jesus

01:16:36.460 --> 01:16:39.140
Christ, that he died for our sins
according to the scriptures, was buried

01:16:39.140 --> 01:16:40.240
and rose again and coming back.

01:16:40.480 --> 01:16:44.500
And now you're placed in Christ,
and now you have power as you're reading

01:16:44.500 --> 01:16:49.380
the Bible to resist Satan's government and
his greatest second cause, which is the

01:16:49.380 --> 01:16:49.900
papacy.

01:16:50.940 --> 01:16:55.120
Now that you're in this position,
you have to enter into a solemn league and

01:16:55.120 --> 01:16:58.180
covenant, as the covenanters did in
Scotland with one another.

01:16:58.180 --> 01:17:03.120
We begin to form our own churches,
like the Szymanskis, or the Phelpses,

01:17:03.620 --> 01:17:06.140
or the Hugheses, or the Eberhards.

01:17:06.220 --> 01:17:08.580
There are going to be new denominations,
God forbid.

01:17:09.240 --> 01:17:14.680
But we're going to have our own churches,
and we will then unite together under a

01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:18.920
common league of fellowship, under a
solemn league and covenant.

01:17:18.920 --> 01:17:23.540
And we will covenant together with one
another to protect one another,

01:17:23.660 --> 01:17:28.880
to look out for one another, and to not go
along with the tyranny of the government,

01:17:29.020 --> 01:17:30.680
which leads to the next conclusion.

01:17:31.220 --> 01:17:38.280
And that is formal and open secession by
us once we are right with God,

01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:41.460
because you see, God has established the
divine institution of human government.

01:17:41.460 --> 01:17:46.900
So therefore, what we have to do is,
we then, once we have to declare our

01:17:46.900 --> 01:17:52.120
sovereignty and establish our own human
government, and then tell to the world why

01:17:52.120 --> 01:17:55.980
we are declaring our sovereignty,
as the Declaration of Independence did,

01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:01.340
so that we have a just cause, a righteous
cause, for declaring our sovereignty and

01:18:01.340 --> 01:18:06.320
independence from Washington and the
American Empire, and starting our own

01:18:06.320 --> 01:18:09.620
nation-states once again in this North
America.

01:18:09.620 --> 01:18:12.520
And so, what examples do we have?

01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:18.360
Well, we have the example of the
Presbyterian Calvinists of Mecklenburg

01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:19.880
County in North Carolina.

01:18:20.660 --> 01:18:27.660
And I read to you from the Council of
Charleston, it's November of 1986,

01:18:28.540 --> 01:18:33.740
on page 17, we read, quote, Relationship
between the Declaration of Independence

01:18:33.740 --> 01:18:35.420
and the Mecklenburg Declaration.

01:18:36.160 --> 01:18:39.960
Did Thomas Jefferson write the Declaration
of Independence without borrowing from

01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:43.460
another major document that also declared
separation from Britain?

01:18:43.980 --> 01:18:47.700
There is much evidence that Jefferson
borrowed from the Mecklenburg Declaration

01:18:47.700 --> 01:18:50.380
when he wrote the Declaration of
Independence.

01:18:51.200 --> 01:18:56.680
On May 20, 1775, one year before the
Declaration of Independence was signed in

01:18:56.680 --> 01:19:01.320
Philadelphia, the Scotch-Irish
Presbyterians of Mecklenburg County,

01:19:01.820 --> 01:19:06.340
North Carolina, met in Charlotte to
declare their independence from the

01:19:06.340 --> 01:19:07.660
government of Great Britain.

01:19:08.780 --> 01:19:11.820
The following is a portion of this
Mecklenburg Declaration.

01:19:11.820 --> 01:19:13.880
Before I read that, I'd just like to
comment here.

01:19:14.380 --> 01:19:16.320
These guys had guts.

01:19:17.240 --> 01:19:20.800
And the reason why they had courage is
because they had faith.

01:19:21.300 --> 01:19:25.240
And the reason why they had faith is
because God imparted that faith to them in

01:19:25.240 --> 01:19:28.680
the reading of the Reformation Bible,
the King James Bible, or the Geneva Bible.

01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:37.140
And because of their courage and faith,
they just took a mere county and declared

01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:41.220
their independence from King George III
and his huge Royal Navy.

01:19:42.440 --> 01:19:44.580
Here's a portion of that Mecklenburg
Declaration.

01:19:45.740 --> 01:19:50.160
We do hereby dissolve the political bands
which have connected us with the mother

01:19:50.160 --> 01:19:54.500
country, and hereby absolve ourselves from
all allegiance to the British crown.

01:19:55.260 --> 01:19:58.380
We hereby declare ourselves a free and
independent people.

01:19:59.040 --> 01:20:03.360
Our, and of right, ought to be a sovereign
and self-governing association,

01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:08.560
under control of no power other than that
of our God and the general government of

01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:13.540
Congress, to the maintenance of which we
solemnly pledge to each other our mutual

01:20:13.540 --> 01:20:19.160
cooperation, and our lives, and our
future, and our most sacred honor.

01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:22.560
That's where Jefferson got that in the
declaration, from the Mecklenburg

01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.140
Declaration.

01:20:24.040 --> 01:20:27.720
So, this is what these men do,
and if they did it then, Greg,

01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:29.220
we can do it again.

01:20:30.500 --> 01:20:31.820
God doesn't change.

01:20:32.020 --> 01:20:33.740
If we honor Him, He'll honor us.

01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:35.480
If we keep His commandments, He will honor
us.

01:20:35.500 --> 01:20:36.500
He will answer our prayers.

01:20:36.500 --> 01:20:40.040
There's no reason why He could not bless a
movement like this.

01:20:40.340 --> 01:20:44.020
But it will take men who are completely
devoted to the true word of God,

01:20:44.180 --> 01:20:47.760
and to the Lord Jesus Christ, and they
have no affinity to any particular

01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:48.520
denomination.

01:20:48.940 --> 01:20:52.200
Their affinity is to right teaching and
the doctrines of grace as found in the

01:20:52.200 --> 01:20:52.400
Bible.

01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:57.680
And when they do that, the revolt,
the true, healthy revolution will begin on

01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:02.700
the pulpits, and that will carry over into
the political, civil life of a people.

01:21:04.940 --> 01:21:10.800
Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a... that
plan, I mean, it sounds to me like the

01:21:10.800 --> 01:21:16.800
only way to get this... to do what you're
saying is to follow what people did in the

01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:17.260
past.

01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:19.240
And it seemed to work.

01:21:19.460 --> 01:21:21.540
It worked, because the Lord intervened.

01:21:21.620 --> 01:21:23.420
See, they weren't like Posse Comitatus.

01:21:23.660 --> 01:21:25.060
They weren't like the Ku Klux Klan.

01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:26.820
They weren't like all the identity people.

01:21:26.860 --> 01:21:29.480
They weren't calling for you to get your
guns and fight the government.

01:21:29.480 --> 01:21:33.260
What these guys did is they first got
right with God.

01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:36.380
They had a public confession of sin in
Scotland with the Covenanters.

01:21:36.540 --> 01:21:37.300
That was their example.

01:21:37.580 --> 01:21:39.280
They took the Westminster Confession of
Faith.

01:21:39.360 --> 01:21:42.040
It was the guideline for the Mecklenburg
Declaration.

01:21:42.620 --> 01:21:46.860
And then once they were right with God,
then they openly declared their purpose by

01:21:46.860 --> 01:21:50.840
withdrawing their allegiance to King
George and reserving it only to the

01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:51.220
Congress.

01:21:51.220 --> 01:21:57.300
And then God blessed them with righteous
men to lead them and men of faith and

01:21:57.300 --> 01:22:00.380
courage to fly and fight on the
battlefield against these tyrants when

01:22:00.380 --> 01:22:01.640
they sent their armies against us.

01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:04.540
And...

01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:07.360
There's another thing, too.

01:22:08.160 --> 01:22:12.800
This would be tantamount to say in
Pennsylvania here, the county that I live

01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:18.160
in is Lebanon, that Lebanon County
declares its independence from Washington.

01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:21.520
Go ahead.

01:22:21.740 --> 01:22:26.420
That it will only submit to the leadership
of Harrisburg.

01:22:28.060 --> 01:22:29.640
So we're not totally lost.

01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:31.000
We're on the part of our state.

01:22:31.440 --> 01:22:33.220
So we're helping our state.

01:22:33.420 --> 01:22:37.160
We're urging our state to do what we did
in our county of Lebanon.

01:22:37.160 --> 01:22:39.180
And then after Lebanon, then Berks.

01:22:39.220 --> 01:22:40.520
And then after Berks, Lancaster.

01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:43.280
And then pretty soon, all these counties
begin to secede.

01:22:43.700 --> 01:22:48.600
And then there's a movement in Harrisburg
in Congress there for an ordinance of

01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:49.140
secession.

01:22:49.780 --> 01:22:52.360
The Pennsylvanians withdrawing from this
empire.

01:22:54.220 --> 01:22:57.800
Okay, Eric, let's take a three-minute
break, come back, and talk some more.

01:22:58.300 --> 01:22:59.320
This is Eric Johnstelf.

01:22:59.460 --> 01:23:00.360
You have a new short message.

01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:13.240
Okay, we're back on the Investigative
Journal.

01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:14.660
My guest is Eric Johnstelf.

01:23:14.900 --> 01:23:17.180
He's the author of Vatican Assassin's
Creed.

01:23:17.740 --> 01:23:23.540
And we're discussing some solutions to the
problem instead of always trying to just

01:23:23.540 --> 01:23:24.660
talk about the problems.

01:23:24.660 --> 01:23:30.140
And Eric, I think one of your major points
is you must have a strong faith,

01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:38.000
and then you must begin to declare your
sovereignty from this illegal government

01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:40.760
that we now have controlling us.

01:23:41.420 --> 01:23:47.140
For many, many reasons, I think this is
similar to what happened back in the

01:23:47.140 --> 01:23:48.120
1700s.

01:23:48.120 --> 01:23:49.560
But what are the differences?

01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:50.960
How do you see this?

01:23:51.240 --> 01:23:56.200
If this ever did move forward,
what are the differences in modern-day

01:23:56.200 --> 01:23:56.620
America?

01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.840
Maybe bigger obstacles we have to...

01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:00.040
We have no preachers.

01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:02.000
We have no preachers.

01:24:02.700 --> 01:24:04.680
We have no men of God with courage.

01:24:05.740 --> 01:24:07.260
And that's what the colonists had.

01:24:08.180 --> 01:24:12.060
The preacher there at Lexington,
he would let his men out there.

01:24:12.180 --> 01:24:13.680
They were the ones who died in the green.

01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.920
He led all of his men in church to fight
the redcoats.

01:24:18.940 --> 01:24:23.780
And until we get over this brainwash of
Romans 13 that it is a defense for

01:24:23.780 --> 01:24:28.860
unlimited submission to tyranny,
until we repudiate that heresy and start

01:24:28.860 --> 01:24:31.880
to go back to what it really means,
and that God instituted human government

01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:36.280
for our benefit, and that they bear the
sword for our punishment for evil,

01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:38.080
and they are to reward us for doing good.

01:24:38.300 --> 01:24:42.100
When that kind of biblical government is
acknowledged, and that's why government

01:24:42.100 --> 01:24:44.260
wasn't established, then we can go
forward.

01:24:44.420 --> 01:24:45.880
But it's going to have to start in the
pulpits.

01:24:46.180 --> 01:24:49.280
Therefore, what God's going to have to do,
he's going to have to start saving some of

01:24:49.280 --> 01:24:52.820
these men that are listening on this
broadcast, giving them the faith of Jesus

01:24:52.820 --> 01:24:55.380
Christ, and they're going to read the
Bible for themselves, and they can start

01:24:55.380 --> 01:24:56.020
their own preaching.

01:24:56.480 --> 01:25:00.180
They can start preaching out on the
street, or at universities, or whatever,

01:25:00.400 --> 01:25:00.940
and you know what?

01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:02.320
One day they'll get a following.

01:25:02.900 --> 01:25:05.680
And then as they become more influential,
and they start preaching, and they put out

01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:06.180
a newsletter.

01:25:06.620 --> 01:25:08.220
But they are fearless preachers.

01:25:08.320 --> 01:25:09.320
They have no fear of the government.

01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:10.980
They have no fear of anybody or anything.

01:25:11.480 --> 01:25:14.260
And as they're beginning to preach,
then people start to wake up.

01:25:14.940 --> 01:25:19.880
And as they wake up, now your county has
woke up, and ultimately you run for

01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:20.260
election.

01:25:20.260 --> 01:25:22.660
One of your church members becomes the
sheriff.

01:25:23.040 --> 01:25:24.580
Another guy becomes the county
commissioner.

01:25:25.160 --> 01:25:28.900
And then pretty soon you get these guys in
places of government, and then you decide

01:25:28.900 --> 01:25:31.400
to withdraw your allegiance to Washington.

01:25:32.040 --> 01:25:34.860
And remember, the sheriff's the most
powerful law enforcement officer of the

01:25:34.860 --> 01:25:35.120
county.

01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:40.020
Once that declaration of independence has
been made, then you kick out all the

01:25:40.020 --> 01:25:40.840
federal agencies.

01:25:41.540 --> 01:25:46.900
All of them are gone, because now you have
a sovereign county, and you're calling for

01:25:46.900 --> 01:25:51.640
Harrisburg, or your state capitol in your
state, to declare its independence from

01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:52.080
Washington.

01:25:52.980 --> 01:25:56.280
And once that happens, you now repudiate
the national debt.

01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:02.960
You now take all the land, all the
property that's really been pledged to the

01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:04.500
Federal Reserve because of the national
debt.

01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:05.340
You take it back.

01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:07.080
You've taken back your land.

01:26:07.500 --> 01:26:09.740
You've taken back your personal property
rights.

01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:11.460
You re-institute the common law.

01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:13.040
You let people prosper.

01:26:13.040 --> 01:26:14.780
Inventions begin to happen.

01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:19.280
And when that people begin to prosper,
people begin to be optimistic.

01:26:19.660 --> 01:26:20.260
You allow the great

01:26:28.260 --> 01:26:33.420
doctors to come into your country,
where they can cure cancer and they can

01:26:33.420 --> 01:26:34.140
cure heart disease.

01:26:34.200 --> 01:26:35.880
There's no reason anybody should have
those things.

01:26:36.360 --> 01:26:39.560
And so once you do that, you have freedom
of expressions, freedom of invention,

01:26:39.740 --> 01:26:43.720
and you're going to see leaps and bounds
growing in culture and progress.

01:26:44.100 --> 01:26:45.400
Well, the judges don't want this.

01:26:45.700 --> 01:26:46.480
So what does that mean?

01:26:46.580 --> 01:26:48.180
We have to prepare for our defense.

01:26:48.180 --> 01:26:49.840
Every man must be armed.

01:26:50.320 --> 01:26:54.680
And we have to be willing to die for the
sake of our God and for the preservation

01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:57.080
of our nation and keeping it sovereign.

01:26:57.440 --> 01:26:59.180
And it might be a little old state of
Vermont.

01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:00.880
Or it might be the state of Maine.

01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:02.120
Or it might be the state of Tennessee.

01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:07.280
But there's got to be some place somewhere
here in North America, county by county,

01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:09.140
that they will begin to secede.

01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:13.740
And I can't think of any more of a reason
than this horrible crime of bringing down

01:27:13.740 --> 01:27:16.920
the World Trade Center, the crime of
killing Kennedy and never resolving the

01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:17.140
murder.

01:27:17.140 --> 01:27:21.760
And now the crime of using our young
people to fight this Pope's crusade on a

01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:26.780
war of annihilation that ultimately is
going to kill our military because it will

01:27:26.780 --> 01:27:27.320
be betrayed.

01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:31.680
We need to first repent, get right with
God, establish our own government,

01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:32.500
and then secede.

01:27:34.220 --> 01:27:36.680
And, yeah, anything else you want to add
on this?

01:27:38.140 --> 01:27:41.180
Yes, there's a book that your listeners
need to get a hold of.

01:27:41.220 --> 01:27:44.540
It's called Lex Rex by Samuel Rutherford.

01:27:44.540 --> 01:27:49.080
And Samuel Rutherford was a
Bible-believing preacher.

01:27:49.660 --> 01:27:50.540
He was hated.

01:27:51.280 --> 01:27:56.480
His work was publicly burned by the agents
of Rome and England because this great

01:27:56.480 --> 01:28:01.160
work was the foundation for resistance to
political tyranny.

01:28:01.340 --> 01:28:06.120
And he names the Jesuits throughout the
book as the masters of usurping the

01:28:06.120 --> 01:28:06.800
government of England.

01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:09.300
So we need to read Lex Rex.

01:28:09.480 --> 01:28:11.540
We need to read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.

01:28:11.540 --> 01:28:15.920
And we need to read the Reformation Bible
and look back into our histories.

01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:17.540
Turn off the TV.

01:28:18.100 --> 01:28:20.640
It's nothing but Jesuit cinema and lies.

01:28:21.060 --> 01:28:23.240
And get back into the truth, which will
take work.

01:28:25.080 --> 01:28:31.900
Yeah, and the obstacles seem
insurmountable, I think, people that would

01:28:31.900 --> 01:28:32.500
be listening.

01:28:33.580 --> 01:28:35.140
Do you know what, Greg?

01:28:35.240 --> 01:28:37.060
That's exactly what God likes.

01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:39.700
He likes it when the odds are all against
us.

01:28:39.700 --> 01:28:46.160
I think of Joab when he said on the
battlefield, he said, You go there and

01:28:46.160 --> 01:28:50.180
I'll go here, and let the Lord doeth what
seemeth good to him.

01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:55.360
All that matters is that we are in a
position of obedience where we're obeying

01:28:55.360 --> 01:28:55.820
God.

01:28:56.220 --> 01:28:58.280
And let the Lord doeth what seemeth good
to him.

01:28:58.480 --> 01:29:02.180
I think of Latimer, Ridley, and Fry that
were burned at the stake at Smithfield.

01:29:02.580 --> 01:29:05.900
And one of those men, I believe it was
Fry, as he was condemned and they were

01:29:05.900 --> 01:29:10.960
leading him to the stake, he stopped and
he kissed all seven or eight of his

01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.140
children, every one of them goodbye,
by their age.

01:29:15.780 --> 01:29:18.180
And then went to the stake and was burned.

01:29:18.580 --> 01:29:22.380
I mean, if these guys can die for the
gospel of Christ and kiss their children

01:29:22.380 --> 01:29:28.640
goodbye, how much more should we be able
to do the same thing in seeking to make a

01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:30.680
place where our children can have a
chance?

01:29:30.820 --> 01:29:32.520
Because there's not a prayer for them now.

01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.460
They have no future ahead of them.

01:29:35.500 --> 01:29:37.520
That's a point that we need to discuss.

01:29:37.720 --> 01:29:42.460
Yeah, what's the fate of our children and
the next generation if we don't try to do

01:29:42.460 --> 01:29:42.900
something?

01:29:44.060 --> 01:29:45.120
I think you're right.

01:29:45.200 --> 01:29:46.120
They don't have a chance.

01:29:46.580 --> 01:29:50.740
And, you know, you've said some really
good things and I think I wanted to just

01:29:50.740 --> 01:29:52.420
add something.

01:29:52.580 --> 01:29:57.640
And that is, if we look at all the patriot
movements, many of the movements that have

01:29:57.640 --> 01:30:02.440
tried to secede from the Union,
there are many different ones.

01:30:02.440 --> 01:30:06.500
They're all lacking what I think you
touched on.

01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:12.340
And that is faith and men of conviction
who are not just operating out of a

01:30:12.340 --> 01:30:13.780
secular mind state.

01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:14.260
That's right.

01:30:14.340 --> 01:30:15.640
They have no personal righteousness.

01:30:16.340 --> 01:30:18.620
They haven't been declared righteous
according to the scriptures.

01:30:19.240 --> 01:30:22.600
And therefore they haven't coordinated
their will to the Word of God.

01:30:22.700 --> 01:30:27.280
Because, you see, it's first the sword of
the Spirit, which is the Word of God.

01:30:27.300 --> 01:30:29.180
That's what we submit to and we're cut by
it.

01:30:29.180 --> 01:30:33.420
As we're cut by the sword of the Spirit,
God begins to remake us into something He

01:30:33.420 --> 01:30:34.020
can use.

01:30:34.660 --> 01:30:39.160
And then after we're in a position where
we have been fashioned, where we can be of

01:30:39.160 --> 01:30:43.620
service to the Lord and the sin is cut
down on our lives to the place where we're

01:30:43.620 --> 01:30:47.640
not constantly involved in sin,
then He can begin to use us for these

01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:48.280
kinds of things.

01:30:48.580 --> 01:30:53.020
And that's where all the patriot movement
boys, they're all lacking because they

01:30:53.020 --> 01:30:54.560
have no personal righteousness.

01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:59.100
It's not a biblical position founded in
the Bible and based on the history of the

01:30:59.100 --> 01:30:59.520
Reformation.

01:31:00.080 --> 01:31:01.120
And it can never work.

01:31:02.020 --> 01:31:06.740
And what happens is they concentrate
solely on the secular aspect without

01:31:06.740 --> 01:31:10.900
completely understanding what the New
World Order is all about.

01:31:11.060 --> 01:31:11.500
That's right.

01:31:11.700 --> 01:31:17.820
Tying in the Jesuit-Vatican connection and
the Inquisition to the same movement that

01:31:17.820 --> 01:31:24.380
was happening back in the days we're
talking about revolution in this country.

01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.540
And so I think what you're getting at
here, and I think I could make this

01:31:28.540 --> 01:31:33.380
statement, maybe that's the reason that
many of these patriot movements have been

01:31:33.380 --> 01:31:34.140
unsuccessful.

01:31:34.860 --> 01:31:40.260
And that's why people that look upon this
now will say, well, look at all the people

01:31:40.260 --> 01:31:41.500
in the past that have failed.

01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:44.280
And the patriot movement, there's not one
of them.

01:31:44.700 --> 01:31:46.020
Because I was a part of some of them.

01:31:46.020 --> 01:31:50.020
I was a member of the National Quarantine
Barter Association, Golden Meat Society,

01:31:50.420 --> 01:31:52.000
a whole bunch of patriot organizations.

01:31:52.400 --> 01:31:54.980
Every last one of them are anti-Jew.

01:31:55.860 --> 01:31:56.640
Every one of them.

01:31:57.200 --> 01:31:58.240
So God's not going to bless them.

01:31:58.820 --> 01:32:00.000
Genesis 12 is going to come into play.

01:32:00.280 --> 01:32:02.860
I'll bless those that bless you,
the seed of Abraham, and I'll curse those

01:32:02.860 --> 01:32:03.380
that curse you.

01:32:03.580 --> 01:32:05.040
So you're going to curse the racial Jews.

01:32:05.360 --> 01:32:07.960
God will not get involved in what you're
doing.

01:32:08.220 --> 01:32:10.400
That's what Tex Mars is doing,
cursing the racial Jews.

01:32:10.800 --> 01:32:13.220
So now he doesn't have God's blessing in
his ministry.

01:32:13.740 --> 01:32:19.240
So we have to get away from that Jesuit
sidetrack, that Jesuit rabbit trail,

01:32:19.300 --> 01:32:21.200
realizing there are many evil Jews.

01:32:21.380 --> 01:32:25.420
Looks like Larry Silverstein who made
billions of dollars because of 9-11,

01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:27.880
but he's a servant of the Archbishop of
New York.

01:32:28.420 --> 01:32:30.660
We have to call these Jews the Pope's
Jews.

01:32:31.040 --> 01:32:33.120
And they're servile to the papacy.

01:32:33.380 --> 01:32:35.600
They have no king but Caesar, which is the
Pope.

01:32:36.340 --> 01:32:39.740
But once we get our doctrine right,
and we realize who the true enemy is,

01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:43.180
which is the Vatican, and especially the
Jesuit order, which is the power behind

01:32:43.180 --> 01:32:46.280
the Vatican, then we can petition our God.

01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:48.960
And he will intervene for us.

01:32:49.240 --> 01:32:51.160
And he will begin to answer our prayers.

01:32:51.400 --> 01:32:53.400
Because you see, we now have personal
righteousness.

01:32:53.820 --> 01:32:56.980
And as we're cleansed by the washing of
the water by the word of John 15,

01:32:57.280 --> 01:32:59.380
he's in a position to answer our prayers.

01:32:59.580 --> 01:33:03.160
If our prayers are pursuant to his will,
and we want something good and not

01:33:03.160 --> 01:33:05.740
something selfish for ourselves,
he'll answer them.

01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:06.580
He'll intervene.

01:33:08.160 --> 01:33:11.120
He'll sow confusion in the hearts of the
enemies.

01:33:11.540 --> 01:33:14.040
He'll kill the leaders that are the most
powerful.

01:33:14.780 --> 01:33:16.440
You know, God will begin to intervene for
us.

01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:18.100
And that's what the Jesuits don't want.

01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:20.420
That's why they teach us to be atheists in
the schools.

01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:22.720
That's why they've taken the Bibles out of
public schools.

01:33:23.060 --> 01:33:28.500
That's why they make infidels out of all
your top academicians and scientists.

01:33:28.940 --> 01:33:33.180
You have to imbibe in them there is no
God, so don't waste your time praying,

01:33:33.460 --> 01:33:35.580
because nothing's going to come of it
anyway.

01:33:35.580 --> 01:33:38.060
When history is completely contrary to
that.

01:33:39.200 --> 01:33:43.560
Right, and I think if you added that one
aspect, the spiritual aspect you're

01:33:43.560 --> 01:33:48.440
talking about, to a patriot movement,
I think people would be surprised how

01:33:48.440 --> 01:33:49.960
quickly the numbers would grow.

01:33:50.020 --> 01:33:55.340
That puts the movement into a warp,
warp drive, which is a little long.

01:33:55.740 --> 01:33:59.040
When you want to put it in warp drive,
it's got to be done with the Bible and the

01:33:59.040 --> 01:33:59.920
power of the Spirit of God.

01:33:59.980 --> 01:34:03.620
Then it goes warp, and then they can't
catch you, and then God begins to protect

01:34:03.620 --> 01:34:06.180
you, and he sows confusion in their camps.

01:34:06.500 --> 01:34:07.420
It's just wonderful.

01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.000
I saw that in the Dutch Republic.

01:34:10.140 --> 01:34:13.480
I saw it in the American War of
Independence.

01:34:13.900 --> 01:34:17.380
I saw it in Cromwell on the battlefield at
Dunbar and Marston Moor.

01:34:17.660 --> 01:34:20.120
God intervening, that's the only solution.

01:34:20.320 --> 01:34:24.500
When the Spanish Armada was sunk,
when England was fixed after five days of

01:34:24.500 --> 01:34:29.220
battling, the Clippers had run out of
ammunition and food, and there was no one

01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:29.700
to save them.

01:34:29.700 --> 01:34:33.660
And then God sent a storm and wiped out
two-thirds of the Spanish Armada,

01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:37.700
killing 20,000 soldiers, and only 10,000
returned to Spain.

01:34:38.580 --> 01:34:39.720
God will intervene for it.

01:34:39.720 --> 01:34:41.540
I'm telling you, we're getting a Chinese
invasion.

01:34:41.940 --> 01:34:45.020
They're going to send their huge navy
that's been built by the Knights of Malta

01:34:45.020 --> 01:34:48.380
using our corporate cartel capitalists.

01:34:48.420 --> 01:34:49.700
They're going to invade our country.

01:34:49.860 --> 01:34:50.480
And you know what?

01:34:50.900 --> 01:34:55.300
I said at the Con Con in 2002,
if we would repent, if just God's people

01:34:55.300 --> 01:34:59.420
would repent, and begin to start reading
this real Bible, the AB 1611, and calling

01:34:59.420 --> 01:35:03.920
upon Him in faith, and resisting these
sinners in our government as well as

01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:07.560
foreign policy, God would intervene for
us.

01:35:08.420 --> 01:35:11.060
The only thing we have to fear is not
obeying Him.

01:35:11.900 --> 01:35:14.680
We have to count our lives, we have to
count all things but loss.

01:35:15.140 --> 01:35:16.040
Dying is nothing.

01:35:16.200 --> 01:35:17.320
It's easy to die.

01:35:17.580 --> 01:35:19.180
It's hard to live for the Lord.

01:35:19.580 --> 01:35:20.580
It's easy to die.

01:35:20.660 --> 01:35:23.880
So when they put a bullet to our heads or
whatever happens, it's easy.

01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:25.000
It's home to be with the Lord.

01:35:25.300 --> 01:35:27.260
The hard part is sticking around and doing
what's right.

01:35:27.820 --> 01:35:31.300
And the Lord will intervene, just as He
did in the past in those examples.

01:35:31.580 --> 01:35:36.240
And that's why I wrote Vatican Assassins,
to give you a flow of history of how God

01:35:36.240 --> 01:35:41.560
intervened for these people, these poor
people who trusted Him and who committed

01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:45.000
their lives to Him and sought to obey His
word, and He intervened for them and their

01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:46.760
countries and blessed them for it.

01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:53.380
Yeah, and I mean this is another reason
why the Jesuits and the Vatican want to

01:35:53.380 --> 01:35:57.260
keep all this out of the mainstream or the
alternative news.

01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:04.740
Because once this is uncovered,
that Spirit of God could really change the

01:36:04.740 --> 01:36:05.140
tide.

01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:07.060
And I think they know that.

01:36:07.720 --> 01:36:08.680
That's right, they know it.

01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:11.180
That's why they hate the doctrines of
grace.

01:36:11.560 --> 01:36:13.220
That's why they hate Calvinism.

01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:15.970
That's why they hate the idea that man is
totally depraved.

01:36:16.490 --> 01:36:20.730
That man needs irresistible grace to come
to salvation.

01:36:20.910 --> 01:36:23.890
That Christ's death in a specific way was
for His elect.

01:36:24.210 --> 01:36:27.610
That there is an irresistible grace that
God gives that calls you to salvation.

01:36:27.990 --> 01:36:30.270
And when you're saved, there's a
perseverance of the saints.

01:36:30.610 --> 01:36:33.170
They hate the concept of the total
depravity of man.

01:36:33.390 --> 01:36:36.550
They think man is basically good and by
reason they can know God, etc.,

01:36:36.550 --> 01:36:37.090
etc., etc.

01:36:37.490 --> 01:36:42.350
And so therefore they don't believe that
man is an innate and corrigible sinner.

01:36:42.350 --> 01:36:46.250
They hate that doctrine because when a man
gets that in his soul and realizes he can

01:36:46.250 --> 01:36:49.790
do nothing without Christ, then God,
when you know you can do nothing,

01:36:50.030 --> 01:36:52.090
then God begins to work through you.

01:36:52.530 --> 01:36:53.710
And great things happen.

01:36:54.010 --> 01:36:55.590
And the Jesuit orders put to flight.

01:36:55.730 --> 01:36:59.610
For example, in England, the Jesuits had
taken over King George III.

01:37:00.090 --> 01:37:05.110
He'd be protected after Jesuit General
Ritchie died in St. Angelo Castle in Rome.

01:37:05.430 --> 01:37:07.090
He protected the Jesuits in England.

01:37:07.090 --> 01:37:13.730
And so we're not surprised to see the
Jesuits controlling King George III during

01:37:13.730 --> 01:37:15.050
the American War of Independence.

01:37:15.190 --> 01:37:16.410
But God intervened.

01:37:16.670 --> 01:37:20.270
He used the French who had expelled the
Jesuits to help us.

01:37:20.530 --> 01:37:22.230
They sent their navy over to us.

01:37:22.490 --> 01:37:27.670
They sent Lafayette to us, the boy general
who dearly loved General Washington and

01:37:27.670 --> 01:37:28.490
Washington him.

01:37:29.070 --> 01:37:34.350
And as a result, God used France and Spain
to give us victory and separation from

01:37:34.350 --> 01:37:37.710
England because Spain had suppressed the
Jesuits and so had France.

01:37:38.610 --> 01:37:43.590
So God can do it again if we would but
trust him and seek his face and not be

01:37:43.590 --> 01:37:49.690
willing to do what ultimately we must do,
and that is to go to the block if we have

01:37:49.690 --> 01:37:51.350
to for the sake of the truth.

01:37:53.030 --> 01:37:53.530
Right.

01:37:53.890 --> 01:37:58.890
And those points, you know, and that,
too, I think is really an inspirational

01:37:58.890 --> 01:38:05.390
speech that you just gave because it gives
many people out there who have found the

01:38:05.390 --> 01:38:11.170
Word of God a reason to look at the
secular aspect of this and work together,

01:38:11.710 --> 01:38:18.690
and for those who are struggling to find
truth or faith, to see how important it is

01:38:18.690 --> 01:38:24.810
to have that faith and to get it from God
and to see how the Vatican and Jesuits

01:38:24.810 --> 01:38:27.870
have been manipulating both aspects.

01:38:27.870 --> 01:38:28.790
That's right.

01:38:29.650 --> 01:38:32.730
There was a movie out with Clint Eastwood
in it.

01:38:32.810 --> 01:38:35.070
It was called The Pale Rider.

01:38:36.010 --> 01:38:37.650
We were listeners of Sea Inherited.

01:38:38.150 --> 01:38:42.830
In that movie, the evil, wicked man who's
in charge of the miners that are

01:38:42.830 --> 01:38:45.990
destroying these other guys that have
their little mines, their little gold

01:38:45.990 --> 01:38:50.830
mines, when it's reported to him that
there's preachers in town, he said,

01:38:51.850 --> 01:38:52.930
He said,

01:39:06.410 --> 01:39:11.770
Yeah, I remember that, too.

01:39:11.850 --> 01:39:12.790
I remember that movie.

01:39:12.990 --> 01:39:13.190
Yeah.

01:39:13.310 --> 01:39:17.290
I watched it maybe even within the last
six months, yeah.

01:39:17.930 --> 01:39:21.230
But when you see that, when you see that,
when you see...

01:39:21.230 --> 01:39:26.310
Then you look at the social aspect of
America, and I think people...

01:39:26.310 --> 01:39:31.730
Once we've talked about the religious and
the secular points here, look at the

01:39:31.730 --> 01:39:35.170
social aspect of America, what we've
turned into as a culture.

01:39:36.310 --> 01:39:39.090
And isn't it exactly what the Jesuits
wanted?

01:39:39.230 --> 01:39:45.050
No faith whatsoever, a total group of
people who live the high life,

01:39:45.050 --> 01:39:48.650
watching TV, entertainment, pornography.

01:39:49.210 --> 01:39:51.190
You know, it goes on and on and on.

01:39:51.650 --> 01:39:54.150
And what that does is it keeps you.

01:39:54.690 --> 01:39:57.210
It keeps you away from the important
things in life.

01:39:57.710 --> 01:40:01.790
I just wanted you to comment about their
social aspect, the social plan they have.

01:40:02.070 --> 01:40:02.730
Exactly right.

01:40:02.730 --> 01:40:06.970
They've used their Supreme Court to
legalize pornography, to legalize forced

01:40:06.970 --> 01:40:09.410
race mixing, which is completely
unbiblical.

01:40:10.010 --> 01:40:14.470
They've used it to exalt the female to an
equal level as the man, which is really

01:40:14.470 --> 01:40:15.890
female supremacy now.

01:40:16.170 --> 01:40:18.930
If you don't believe me, just watch what
happens when you get a divorce and see who

01:40:18.930 --> 01:40:19.430
gets what.

01:40:20.130 --> 01:40:22.270
They have completely reversed everything.

01:40:22.930 --> 01:40:24.850
They have destroyed our monetary system.

01:40:24.990 --> 01:40:25.850
We have no wealth.

01:40:25.930 --> 01:40:27.170
We can't save a dime.

01:40:27.970 --> 01:40:29.250
They've given us lousy...

01:40:29.250 --> 01:40:31.110
They've destroyed our domestic
manufacturers.

01:40:31.290 --> 01:40:32.790
They've destroyed our small businessmen.

01:40:32.930 --> 01:40:36.710
That was the basis for all of our jobs and
having fine American products.

01:40:37.210 --> 01:40:39.590
It's one damnable thing after another.

01:40:39.690 --> 01:40:41.270
And so the people think, who cares?

01:40:41.650 --> 01:40:42.490
There's nobody who cares.

01:40:42.490 --> 01:40:46.490
Give me another shot of whiskey or give me
another hit on that joint or let's go do

01:40:46.490 --> 01:40:47.090
an eight ball.

01:40:47.470 --> 01:40:52.130
And so as a result of all this depression,
that's the practical solution.

01:40:52.970 --> 01:40:56.750
But the practical solution, when you
embrace the Word of God, is it doesn't

01:40:56.750 --> 01:40:58.510
matter how dark it is.

01:40:58.770 --> 01:41:01.630
Because no matter how dark it is,
the Lord's still on the throne.

01:41:01.970 --> 01:41:03.570
He still has all power in heaven and
earth.

01:41:03.710 --> 01:41:05.910
And He can intervene and answer your
prayers.

01:41:06.370 --> 01:41:09.210
And when He does that with a host of
people, things start to happen.

01:41:10.810 --> 01:41:15.090
Yeah, and I think you're, you know,
just so people know you a little bit,

01:41:15.810 --> 01:41:17.950
you weren't always this way.

01:41:18.570 --> 01:41:21.650
I mean, you come from a different
background, so...

01:41:21.650 --> 01:41:22.410
I was raised in Asia.

01:41:22.590 --> 01:41:24.730
...if it happened to you, it could happen
to anybody.

01:41:24.910 --> 01:41:26.290
Tell us a little bit about your
background.

01:41:26.290 --> 01:41:28.210
If it can happen to me, it can happen to
anybody.

01:41:28.530 --> 01:41:32.070
I was raised in a little place called
Terra Hills, California.

01:41:32.990 --> 01:41:36.930
I was raised around Irish and Portuguese
and Italian Catholic people.

01:41:37.570 --> 01:41:38.510
Loved them dearly.

01:41:39.630 --> 01:41:41.790
But in my family, we were atheists.

01:41:42.750 --> 01:41:44.570
And, I mean, we were apostate Protestants.

01:41:45.410 --> 01:41:48.350
We were once Protestant, but, you know,
Jesus is just a good man, blah,

01:41:48.390 --> 01:41:48.810
blah, blah, blah.

01:41:49.350 --> 01:41:53.270
And so, I was in tremendous sin,
even in high school.

01:41:55.210 --> 01:41:59.550
And as a result, the Lord used that sin
that I had gotten into to convict me that

01:41:59.550 --> 01:42:00.530
I was going to hell.

01:42:01.130 --> 01:42:03.570
And I knew if there was a hell,
I deserved to go there.

01:42:04.270 --> 01:42:07.790
And so, therefore, if there was a hell and
I deserved to go there, then I needed

01:42:07.790 --> 01:42:08.510
God's remedy.

01:42:09.390 --> 01:42:14.050
His remedy was, his son had stepped up and
he died as though he did all those

01:42:14.050 --> 01:42:15.170
horrible things that I did.

01:42:15.630 --> 01:42:17.030
And he was buried and rose again.

01:42:17.090 --> 01:42:18.530
And now he's given me a free pardon.

01:42:19.330 --> 01:42:20.830
He offers a free pardon.

01:42:21.030 --> 01:42:23.810
And the Lord convicted me that that's
exactly what I needed.

01:42:23.910 --> 01:42:25.330
I needed to be forgiven of my sins.

01:42:25.410 --> 01:42:28.790
And when that happened, the Lord saved me
and he began to change me.

01:42:29.450 --> 01:42:35.050
And I began to grow in his word and went
into the Air Force and spent five years

01:42:35.050 --> 01:42:35.410
there.

01:42:35.650 --> 01:42:39.530
And so, but it's been a learning process
and a growing process.

01:42:39.730 --> 01:42:43.310
But the benchmark is the point of
salvation when you believe the gospel.

01:42:43.430 --> 01:42:47.490
And if God can save an atheist,
living around other atheists, then he can

01:42:47.490 --> 01:42:49.930
save anybody else for that matter.

01:42:50.950 --> 01:42:55.610
And what would you say to people that
would still have doubt, excuse me,

01:42:56.330 --> 01:42:58.490
that would say to you, Eric, how are you
so sure?

01:42:58.890 --> 01:43:03.370
You could have taken the easy way out and
just dismissed this and go, well,

01:43:03.410 --> 01:43:07.310
it's just a story, heaven and hell,
this God.

01:43:07.470 --> 01:43:11.950
And you could have gone on your merry way,
finding many, many different religions and

01:43:11.950 --> 01:43:12.830
ways of life.

01:43:13.670 --> 01:43:20.610
How could you tell a person that you're
fairly positive or positive that you chose

01:43:20.610 --> 01:43:21.230
the right way?

01:43:21.230 --> 01:43:26.310
Well, simple, Romans 10, 17, faith cometh
by hearing and hearing of the word of God.

01:43:27.130 --> 01:43:32.450
When you begin to hear the word of God,
and as you read it, there's something that

01:43:32.450 --> 01:43:33.790
that book does to you.

01:43:34.810 --> 01:43:39.110
I was saved in my room reading the book,
Gospel of John, late at night one night.

01:43:39.330 --> 01:43:42.190
My mother thought I was going crazy,
even that Bible.

01:43:43.890 --> 01:43:47.830
And when I was beginning to read that and
I saw that, you know, for God so loved

01:43:47.830 --> 01:43:50.470
that he gave his only begotten Son,
and when I realized that I needed it,

01:43:50.550 --> 01:43:53.750
that I had to have the forgiveness of
sins, I knew that I was going to hell.

01:43:53.950 --> 01:43:55.170
And I knew it was true.

01:43:55.790 --> 01:43:57.630
God gives you the faith to believe.

01:43:57.750 --> 01:43:58.790
Faith cometh by hearing.

01:43:58.990 --> 01:43:59.790
It comes to you.

01:44:00.170 --> 01:44:00.490
By how?

01:44:00.550 --> 01:44:01.670
By preaching the word of God.

01:44:02.170 --> 01:44:03.270
And the fruit of the Spirit is what?

01:44:03.350 --> 01:44:06.510
Love, joy, peace, temperance, patience,
meekness, faith.

01:44:07.030 --> 01:44:08.150
Faith is the fruit of the Spirit.

01:44:09.630 --> 01:44:13.810
I have full confidence that if you sit
down and you read the King James Bible,

01:44:13.930 --> 01:44:18.430
starting with the Gospel of John and then
going to Romans, something will happen to

01:44:18.430 --> 01:44:18.710
you.

01:44:21.010 --> 01:44:24.010
And God will begin to get a hold of your
heart on these matters.

01:44:24.710 --> 01:44:28.630
Because it's his supernatural revelation
and God gave his word, he preserved it,

01:44:28.790 --> 01:44:31.650
and it's ready for us to read in 2007
tonight.

01:44:32.450 --> 01:44:35.710
If he hasn't preserved his word,
he can't hold the world together.

01:44:36.470 --> 01:44:39.770
It's all a farce and we might as well go
out, eat, drink, and be merry,

01:44:39.850 --> 01:44:40.850
for tomorrow we die.

01:44:42.170 --> 01:44:46.110
Yeah, and in a world like America where
most of the preachers have been corrupted,

01:44:46.310 --> 01:44:50.990
and we've presented much documentation on
this show about that, many people are out

01:44:50.990 --> 01:44:54.690
going around to different churches and
looking and finding and hoping,

01:44:55.290 --> 01:44:56.430
what do you get to lose?

01:44:56.550 --> 01:45:01.790
Read the Bible, read that version of the
Bible like Eric says, King James Version,

01:45:01.930 --> 01:45:04.590
John and Romans, and what do you get to
lose?

01:45:04.910 --> 01:45:05.250
Nothing.

01:45:05.250 --> 01:45:09.470
When you really think about it,
and you may have something really great to

01:45:09.470 --> 01:45:15.350
gain by opening up your mind and allowing
that, even though I know many people get

01:45:15.350 --> 01:45:19.430
turned off when they hear that word
because of the propaganda that's been

01:45:19.430 --> 01:45:20.650
spread about the Bible.

01:45:20.650 --> 01:45:21.530
That's exactly right.

01:45:21.590 --> 01:45:24.510
You've got the Jesuits and their
coadjutors, the Phelps family.

01:45:25.210 --> 01:45:28.570
And they have to endure that plague of
having the same name they have.

01:45:28.570 --> 01:45:29.730
Because what do they see?

01:45:29.870 --> 01:45:33.330
All those people in the World Trade Center
were wicked sinners and they all went to

01:45:33.330 --> 01:45:35.050
hell and they all deserve to go to hell.

01:45:36.650 --> 01:45:37.570
How do they know that?

01:45:37.630 --> 01:45:40.210
How do they know there were some people in
that World Trade Center that were saved

01:45:40.210 --> 01:45:40.910
and knew the Lord?

01:45:41.390 --> 01:45:42.190
How do they know that?

01:45:42.870 --> 01:45:49.550
What this is, it's a Jesuit design to
harden people against those of us who read

01:45:49.550 --> 01:45:53.330
the Bible and the history of those who
read the Bible, so that you won't read the

01:45:53.330 --> 01:45:53.630
Bible.

01:45:53.930 --> 01:45:55.350
That's what it's designed to do.

01:45:56.770 --> 01:45:57.210
Yeah.

01:45:57.850 --> 01:46:00.050
And then they get you going in all
different directions.

01:46:00.150 --> 01:46:00.550
That's right.

01:46:00.710 --> 01:46:07.070
And without including this as one of the
directions, that's what I'm getting at.

01:46:07.270 --> 01:46:14.130
And so many people, really, I know because
I can listen to people who respond to my

01:46:14.130 --> 01:46:17.390
show and I just say, well, what have you
got to lose?

01:46:17.510 --> 01:46:18.810
I mean, give it a shot.

01:46:19.070 --> 01:46:24.730
I mean, talking in strict American lingo,
give it a shot, maybe you'll learn

01:46:24.730 --> 01:46:25.170
something.

01:46:25.170 --> 01:46:26.930
Here's an example of history.

01:46:27.270 --> 01:46:29.890
Let me give you a complete, absurd example
of history.

01:46:30.870 --> 01:46:33.430
We all know of the mutiny on the bounty,
right?

01:46:34.010 --> 01:46:34.390
Right.

01:46:35.130 --> 01:46:36.990
We're never told the rest of the story.

01:46:38.170 --> 01:46:40.550
With the mutiny on the bounty,
the bounty lands in Tahiti.

01:46:42.130 --> 01:46:42.950
Squeeze it in.

01:46:43.510 --> 01:46:43.730
Okay.

01:46:43.890 --> 01:46:46.890
And those sailors, they get off in all
kinds of sin.

01:46:47.450 --> 01:46:48.730
And they're starting to kill each other.

01:46:48.930 --> 01:46:51.730
Well, one of the sailors crawls back into
the hold of the bounty and finds the

01:46:51.730 --> 01:46:51.990
Bible.

01:46:52.490 --> 01:46:53.450
And he starts reading it.

01:46:53.450 --> 01:46:54.910
Then he gets saved.

01:46:55.010 --> 01:46:55.910
He starts reading it to the others.

01:46:56.530 --> 01:47:01.750
And in 20 years after the bounty,
the English arrive there to arrest and

01:47:01.750 --> 01:47:02.910
execute those mutineers.

01:47:02.990 --> 01:47:04.750
And they found the island was civilized.

01:47:04.830 --> 01:47:05.570
There wasn't any crime.

01:47:06.470 --> 01:47:08.890
Because the Bible was part of its culture.

01:47:09.150 --> 01:47:10.390
That's Tahiti then.

01:47:11.550 --> 01:47:14.290
And if it did that to Tahiti, it can do
that to any culture.

01:47:15.550 --> 01:47:16.350
Try to read it.

01:47:16.610 --> 01:47:17.370
Trust God about it.

01:47:17.490 --> 01:47:17.550
Amen.

01:47:18.510 --> 01:47:18.950
Right.

01:47:19.350 --> 01:47:22.830
And we have about a minute, and I want to
thank you again.

01:47:22.830 --> 01:47:27.530
Any last words on the subjects we were
talking about tonight?

01:47:28.450 --> 01:47:32.870
Well, I hope I've tried to cover them
clearly and dealt from a historical and a

01:47:32.870 --> 01:47:33.670
biblical position.

01:47:34.690 --> 01:47:41.030
I sometimes let my emotions carry me away,
but I always want my emotions to follow my

01:47:41.030 --> 01:47:41.430
reasoning.

01:47:42.190 --> 01:47:45.330
So hopefully the listener will receive the
blessing.

01:47:45.610 --> 01:47:47.410
And my encouragement is to read the Bible.

01:47:47.830 --> 01:47:50.630
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
and I'll show you how to be in that house.

01:47:51.290 --> 01:47:52.670
Well, Eric, we're all out of time.

01:47:52.790 --> 01:47:55.970
Again, thank you, and we'll have you on
when you get back from your vacation.

01:47:56.530 --> 01:47:57.950
Pleasure to be with you, Greg,
and your listeners.

01:47:58.610 --> 01:48:00.030
Okay, that was Eric John Phelps.

01:48:00.110 --> 01:48:02.890
Go to VaticanAssassins.org.

01:48:02.970 --> 01:48:07.270
You can get Eric's latest book,
Vatican Assassins, free there and read a

01:48:07.270 --> 01:48:11.850
lot more about what we were talking about
in these short two hours.

01:48:16.230 --> 01:48:19.610
...joined by Vincent Bugliosi,
best-selling author many times over,

01:48:20.010 --> 01:48:21.730
one of the most successful prosecutors in
U.S.

01:48:21.790 --> 01:48:23.050
history, also of the Manson family.

01:48:23.530 --> 01:48:26.370
His book, despite a media blackout,
a dominant corporate media blackout,

01:48:26.410 --> 01:48:27.990
is number nine on the New York Times
bestseller list.

01:48:28.530 --> 01:48:29.770
The prosecution of George W.

01:48:29.870 --> 01:48:33.830
Bush for murder, very important that this
book go to number one so it cannot be

01:48:33.830 --> 01:48:34.130
ignored.

01:48:34.610 --> 01:48:35.710
It's not being ignored now.

01:48:35.810 --> 01:48:39.630
He's already been before Congress,
boldly saying prosecute Bush for murder.

01:48:39.630 --> 01:48:44.750
You can hear gasp and freak-outs by the
little neocon fake conservatives up there

01:48:44.750 --> 01:48:47.110
who destroyed the name of conservatism in
this country.

01:48:47.570 --> 01:48:48.450
Absolute trash.

01:48:49.470 --> 01:48:53.590
And the cowardly Democrats who basically
had their arms twisted into even allowing

01:48:53.590 --> 01:48:56.830
the hearings, trying to shut them down,
but they couldn't shut down Vincent

01:48:56.830 --> 01:48:57.350
Bugliosi.

01:48:57.790 --> 01:48:58.730
Let's go to your phone calls.

01:48:58.870 --> 01:49:00.750
David in Montreal, Canada, you're on the
air.

01:49:02.750 --> 01:49:04.030
Go ahead, David, you're on the air.

01:49:06.770 --> 01:49:07.870
He's listening to his radio.

01:49:07.990 --> 01:49:08.490
Let's move on.

01:49:08.490 --> 01:49:11.810
Walt in Michigan, you're on the air.

01:49:11.890 --> 01:49:12.230
Go ahead.

01:49:12.550 --> 01:49:15.350
I'd like to have a couple questions for
Mr. Bugliosi.

01:49:15.670 --> 01:49:16.130
Go ahead.

01:49:16.750 --> 01:49:20.910
Are you willing to also recommend the
prosecution of Knight of Malta,

01:49:21.050 --> 01:49:25.710
George Tenet, and all of the other members
of the Knights of Malta that are running

01:49:25.710 --> 01:49:26.790
this country for Rome?

01:49:27.190 --> 01:49:30.970
And are you willing to prosecute those
high-level Roman Catholics for their

01:49:30.970 --> 01:49:36.970
complicit involvement in this false war in
Iraq, as well as 9-11?

01:49:37.870 --> 01:49:42.010
Well, this Malta or whatever you said,
I'm not familiar with that term,

01:49:42.230 --> 01:49:42.330
Walt.

01:49:42.610 --> 01:49:48.810
But at the grand jury hearings,
not hearings, but the testimony before the

01:49:48.810 --> 01:49:53.690
grand jury, and documents would be
subpoenaed, of course, and there would be

01:49:53.690 --> 01:49:55.370
investigators interviewing people.

01:49:55.670 --> 01:50:00.130
All types of information and evidence
would come out at this state right now.

01:50:00.170 --> 01:50:02.530
So you're saying you'd be looking at
Tenet, though?

01:50:02.530 --> 01:50:03.490
Well, yeah.

01:50:03.690 --> 01:50:08.790
But at this particular point, certainly
Bush did not conspire with himself.

01:50:09.290 --> 01:50:10.250
He didn't do it himself.

01:50:10.370 --> 01:50:11.250
He conspired with others.

01:50:11.390 --> 01:50:16.130
And the two that would almost undoubtedly
be prosecuted along with him, and I talk

01:50:16.130 --> 01:50:19.630
about it in the book, are Condoleezza Rice
and Dick Cheney.

01:50:21.010 --> 01:50:25.430
I have a sense that Rove is up over his
head in this, but the grand jury testimony

01:50:25.430 --> 01:50:27.290
would probably answer that question.

01:50:28.190 --> 01:50:30.030
Rumsfeld, I'm not sure about.

01:50:30.190 --> 01:50:34.850
I have a sense about Powell that his only
sin is weakness.

01:50:35.790 --> 01:50:40.430
But in answer to your question,
the grand jury proceedings would be

01:50:40.430 --> 01:50:42.610
determined with the accompanying
investigation.

01:50:43.590 --> 01:50:47.630
Who joined with Bush in taking this nation
to war on a lie?

01:50:47.750 --> 01:50:51.050
But right now, off the top of my head,
I would say certainly there's Bush,

01:50:51.570 --> 01:50:52.410
Cheney, and Rice.

01:50:52.590 --> 01:50:54.830
Whether there are more than that,
I don't know.

01:50:55.310 --> 01:50:56.370
Possibly Tenet also.

01:50:57.210 --> 01:51:00.090
Mr. Bugliosi, I have one more thing.

01:51:01.110 --> 01:51:04.830
You need to read a book called Vatican
Assassins, Wounded in the House of My

01:51:04.830 --> 01:51:08.150
Friends, which talks about 9-11 and all
the people behind it.

01:51:08.250 --> 01:51:09.550
Listen, I appreciate your call.

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Hey, Walt, we don't screen your calls.

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We let you on there.

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And by the way, the Vatican has been
against the war over there.

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I'm not Catholic.

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I'm not getting in the middle of this.

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And I'll let you come on and ask your
question, but the person you talk about

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has told nothing but lies and BS about me.

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So I know the stuff he's saying,
that is his view, is a bunch of lunacy.

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Okay, and Mr. Bugliosi, it's just
craziness.

01:51:33.210 --> 01:51:36.890
And so we're here trying to talk about
serious issues.

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You say, yes, I'd look at trying to go
after Tenet and that isn't enough.

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And then people that have slandered me and
my family, said horrible things about me,

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have to then make this show about selling
their dirty book.

01:51:47.990 --> 01:51:51.550
Okay, and I don't mean that the Vatican
isn't involved in evil or the Nazis in

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World War II.

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I have guests on about that, like Jim
Mars, but serious historical people who

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don't run around saying lies about me.

01:52:00.870 --> 01:52:02.910
So this isn't the place for you to do
that.

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Go hawk your bull somewhere else,
pal.

01:52:05.930 --> 01:52:11.370
That same guy says they drop bombs out of
flying saucers and the nuclear bombs are

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magical and black people need to be put in
another country and everything else.

01:52:15.650 --> 01:52:18.930
Okay, but then since I don't hail your
God, I'm bad.

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This is the mental illness of the American
people.

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We have a very serious person on the air
talking about serious issues, not quack

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garbage.

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I'm sorry, Mr. Bugliosi.

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I tried to let him run with his question
and it was serious and it just turned into

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pure bull.

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We'll be right back with more of your
phone calls.

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For Vincent Bugliosi, stay with us.