Okay, welcome to the investigative journal.
I called in a minute late, but anyway, we're going to start the show today.
My guest today, again, is Eric John Phelps.
And the reason I'm having Eric on again is that he's going to be on vacation for a
little while.
And I wanted to make sure that I get Eric on one more time before September and his
scheduled appearance.
We're going to talk today about how we can successfully fight the Vatican-led New
World Order and what we can do.
But I did want to mention a couple things.
I wanted to say this, that Eric has written a book called...
well, he's written three versions, Vatican Assassins I, II, and III.
And the last one is over 1,500 pages.
And some people may ask, why is it important to write about the Jesuits and
the Vatican?
Well, last century... well, this is two centuries ago, a French writer named
Adolphe Michel recalled that Voltaire estimated the number of works published
over the years on the Jesuits to be about 6,000.
And then another French writer asked, well, how many have been written now?
And he said this, it doesn't matter because so long as there are Jesuits,
books will have to be written against them.
There is nothing left to be said on their account, but new generations of readers
come every day.
And that's why Eric's book is important.
Will these readers search old books?
And this writer, this French writer says this, the reason mentioned is that in
fact, most of the books retracing the history of the Jesuits cannot be found
anymore.
And they've been taken out by the Jesuits, taken out of circulation.
Only in public libraries can they still be consulted, which makes them out of reach
for most readers.
With the aim of succinctly informing the public at large and mine, a summary of
these works seem necessary.
And so this writer went and talked about all the 6,000 books that had been written
about the Jesuits and how important it was to write about them.
And I did want to mention this from Edmund Parris' book, The Secret History of the
Jesuits, a French writer translated into English.
He says this, the public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility
carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the start of the two world wars.
A situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the
disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many
spheres, especially since the last world war.
In fact, the part they took in these most tragic events has hardly been mentioned
until present time, except for apologists eager to disguise it.
It is with this aim of rectifying this and establishing true facts that we,
the contemporary epic reader, activity which mutually concerns the Jesuits.
And what he goes on to say, he begins to show so many different facts and people
writing about the Jesuits.
And what comes to mind, before we get to Eric, is how many people in our media have
ignored this.
I mean, when you start looking at all the people that have been writing about the
Jesuits over the centuries, and for this to be ignored, especially the concordat
that was brought together between the Nationalist Socialist government and the
Vatican, how can these people in the alternative media, like Alex Jones and the
rest of these guys, ignore this?
And how can the mainstream media ignore it?
And I figured it's only one reason that they must be working for them,
because how can they look at this?
For example, Mr. Joseph Rovin, a Catholic writer, comments on the
diplomatic agreement between the Vatican and the Nazi Reich on the 8th of July,
1933.
And he writes, the concordat brought to the Nationalist Socialist government,
considered nearly everywhere to be made up of usurpers, if not brigands, the seal of
an agreement with the oldest international power, the Vatican.
In a way, it was the equivalent of a diploma of international honorability.
Thus the Pope, not satisfied with giving his personal support to Hitler,
which he did, granted in this way the moral support of the Vatican to the Nazi
Reich.
At the same time as the terror was beginning to reign on the other side of
the Rhine, and was tacitly accepted and approved, the so-called brown shirts had
already put 40,000 persons into concentration camps.
The programs were multiplying to the accents of the Nazi march.
When the Jewish blood streams from the knife, we feel better again.
And that was said by a Nazi sympathizer.
In the following years, Pius XII saw even worse, without being stirred.
It is not surprising that the Catholic heads of Germany vied with each other in
their civility towards the Nazi regime, encouraged as they were by their Roman
master.
One must read the disheveled ravings and verbal acrobats of opportunist theologians
such as Michael Schmoss.
He was later made a prince of the church by Pius XII, and described as the great
theologian of Munich by the publication La Croix on the 2nd of September 1954.
And as we look at these writings, we see the agreement between the Vatican
and all of its priests, all of its bishops, to support the Nazi Reich.
And it goes on and on.
And also, never once did the Vatican ever denounce the Third Reich.
So what about the Fourth Reich, folks?
What about the Fourth Reich led by the Vatican?
Lessons from History of Roman Catholicism.
Let me just read you this by Richard Bennett.
And he writes this, and then we'll get to Mr. Phelps.
The lesson and warning of history is that the undemocratic regimes whose leaders own
allegiance to the Pope or practice the lofty principles of the papacy pose a
threat to individual liberty and carry out religious persecution.
For example, the Inquisition was alive and well in the Balkans in the 1940s.
Convert or die was the choice on the 900,000 Orthodox Serbs in the new state of
Croatia run by Nazi puppet Anton Pavelic and Roman Catholic primate Archbishop
Aloysius Staponik.
200,000 of them were converted, and the other 700,000 who preferred to die
were tortured, shot, burned, and buried alive.
This appalling persecution, carried out mainly by Ustashe priests and friars for
the triumph of Christ in Croatia, included many of the worst atrocities of
the war.
Certainly the mutilations were horrific, the savagery terrible.
Few people know what took place in Croatia during the Second World War.
News of it had been simply suppressed.
And with that, I want to get to another thing.
That's exactly what's happening today.
The truth about the Jesuits and the Vatican and what's happening in our
country is being suppressed.
Being suppressed by the likes of people in the alternative media, and I can name
their names, John Stadmiller and his radio station, Jeff Rents, the rest of these
guys, the Alex Jones and GCN, who control most of the alternative media,
and many other people, have not given you the straight story.
They've not researched history and will suppress this because they are protecting
the Vatican so that this inquisition can take place unabated in America.
It's your life, folks.
It's the life of your children.
And if you're going to just fall for their ploys, you know what?
You deserve what you get.
And the mainstream media has proved to be a whore, so now has the alternative media.
With that, I want to get to Eric Phillips.
Eric, how are you?
Doing well, Greg.
Pleasure to be with you and your listeners.
Yeah, and I wanted to bring that up for the first ten minutes of the show to show
how important it is.
Over the years, there have been over 6,000 different books written about the Jesuits
over the course of history, and what this French writer said is most of them have
been suppressed.
And that's why it's important for people like you to come forward and write again
and to continue throughout history, to continue writing against them,
because they are just making it impossible for people to find the truth.
Now, I know people in the media are as smart as me or you, and they know the
truth.
They're just suppressing it.
And I wanted to get your opinion about how important it is to continue this pursuit
of exposing the people who are really hiding the Jesuit and Vatican evils in
what I call the Fourth Reich.
Yeah, well, it's absolutely important because it's the Jesuits who rule the
country.
And I have a quote in my book by G.
Gordon Liddy, who was trained by Jesuits at Fordham, and his father was very
intimately involved with the Jesuits there.
And the quote in his book that I quote in mine is, his book is Will, the
autobiography of G.
Gordon Liddy.
He says in there that the Jesuits at Fordham rule the world, and they enjoy it.
And G.
Gordon Liddy knows who rules.
And so all these guys in Washington know who rules in the Beltway, and yet they're
under oath or under death threats not to say anything.
And so as a result, the people think, well, in fact, there are two political
parties, and there really is a race, and there really is an election.
Well, that couldn't be any farther from the truth.
So indeed, we need to continue to reveal the history of the Jesuits, so that in the
flow or in the stream of history, we're brought to the present, and it makes
perfect sense as to how they got this power and how they rule.
Yeah, and that takes us to how they control the media, just for a point.
Last time you were on the show, we discussed this in depth, so I think
it's worth mentioning just for a couple of minutes again.
And when you start looking at some of the past books that have been written about
the Jesuits and your book, which cites numerous, numerous people throughout the
course of history warning us about the Vatican and their evils, even up to the
Croatian genocide in World War II, and just as late as the genocide in Rwanda
in the 90s, and what's so upsetting is that none of these people who profess to
be in the alternative media, who we talked about, will deal with these issues in a
fact-by-fact basis.
And I think the reason is, if they did, their cover would be finally up.
What's your thoughts?
I agree completely, and they would not have a show anymore.
I think the only one in the alternative media that ever really did deal with the
Jesuits, sincerely and persistently, was William Cooper.
And so after they finished killing him, they felt that the main voice exposing the
Jesuits was gone, but little did they know the Lord had other things in mind,
that there would be a host of other people now that would rise up and expose them for
what they are.
But indeed, the Jesuit order, what I want to concentrate on, when I have my
newsletter going, and maybe even a broadcast with American Voice,
I'm thinking about it for an hour a week, is to continually set forth the great
authors of the past, and what they wrote on the Jesuit order, what were the great
statesmen of Europe, what they had to say about them, the leaders in World War II,
what they had to say about them, and so that the reader may become very,
very familiar with Jesuit history, and so that he's not surprised to see that
all these Jesuit grads are manning key positions in the media, such as Chris
Matthews, such as Tim Rissert, and a host of others.
So when you see the Jesuit connection there, then people can know that they have
an agenda.
Yeah, and it not only stops with the media, it's also in our government and in
the banking sector, and basically, if you look at some of their followers,
it's amazing how much power they have.
And it appears that they hide behind this one simple method, and that is to say,
we are the sons of God, we are just a religious organization, and how dare you,
how dare you criticize us.
That's right.
And you see, the reason why we can't attack them is because we're taking their
own writings, their own writings that they don't want you to know.
For example, their key writers are called moral theologians.
Moral theologians.
I call them immoral theologians.
And some of their key defendants, defenders, pardon me, are propagandists
like Cardinal Bellarmine, Robert Bellarmine.
He's a very important individual, a Jesuit and a cardinal of the 17th
century.
Another particular immoral theologian was Francisco Sárez.
Francisco Sárez wrote the book on justifiable regicide, justifiable murder
of an enemy of the order.
Another immoral theologian, Emmanuel Sá and Pablo Escobar.
The list is just unbelievable.
But these immoral theologians that they call moral theology, in France in the
1760s, this became known because of the Levalier issue where the Jesuits
bankrupted a bank because of their speculation and their constitution was
presented for the first time in the public arena.
And there before a French court, the French court was so outraged when they
read the absolute power of the Jesuit general and what he could do.
And Levalier had no business, quote unquote, speculating for the order.
They put it all on him to make the order pay for the millions that had been lost.
That the French, what would be our attorney general, called for the absolute
suppression of the Jesuits, which ultimately France did expel the Jesuits in
1764.
And they took all the writings of their moral theologians, Sárez, Molina,
Escobar, all of those men.
They took them and they burned them on the public steps of the capital in Paris,
France.
A public burning of all their works.
And then their open expulsion from France under Louis XV.
So this made all the papers all over Europe and the colonies in America and in
England.
So none of this was ever done in a corner so the people didn't know about this.
And there is instance after instance.
Czar Alexander I does the same thing in 1820 after the Jesuits sought to convert
the nobles of Czarist Russia to their cause.
And seeking then to overthrow the Czar.
It was Czar Alexander who in 1820 issued a royal case that said no more Jesuits in
St. Petersburg and Moscow and no more Jesuits in all the Russias.
Because they are constantly meddling in political affairs.
It had nothing to do with their religion.
It was their political meddling.
And so the Jesuits remained expelled from Russia for over 100 years until Lenin
formally allowed them to come back into Russia in 1922.
Showing you, in fact, who really controlled the Bolshevik Revolution.
So there are instances after instances.
Here is another instance.
Eugene Su.
Eugene Su was one of the greatest Frenchmen who ever lived in my book.
He was a physician, he was a mariner, he was learned, he spoke several
languages.
And he wrote the most wonderful expose on the Jesuit order.
He is probably regarded as the third greatest enemy of the Jesuit order in
history.
The first being Blaise Pascal and his Provincial Letters.
The second being Dostoevsky with his brothers Karamazov and the Grand
Inquisitor.
And the third being Eugene Su.
When Eugene Su wrote The Wandering Jew in 1844 and this hit Europe, all the
Europeans realized that the Jesuits were running their countries, that they were
the masters of murder and deception and pillage and extortion, and you name it,
centralizing all monetary power, political power.
And that was one of the things that was used to excite the European nations to the
second French Revolution of 1848.
We have Westward Ho, written by Kingsley, who was the confessor or the chaplain to
Queen Mary, to Queen Victoria.
Westward Ho further exposes it.
You have Voltaire and his Candide.
Let us eat Jesuits.
It's one particular piece of great literature after another, which,
by the way, we are not allowed to read in our college literature courses,
that further exposes the order in all their devices.
So we need to go back to the literature and the writings of the 1900s and early
20th century.
Yeah, and I'm just looking at some things in World War II here.
Regarding the Vatican and the Jesuit role in the Holocaust and the monstrosities
that took place in World War II, Carlo Falcone wrote a book, The Silence of
Pope Pius XII.
He wrote it in, I believe in French, but he's an Italian.
And he said, the existence of such monstrosities overthrows every standard of
good and evil.
They defy dignity of their individual being and society in general to such an
extent that we are compelled to denounce those who could have influenced public
opinion, be they ordinary civilians or heads of state.
And what he's talking about, to keep quiet in the face of such outrages, he's talking
about the Vatican, would amount in fact to downright collaboration.
It would stimulate the villainy of the criminals, stirring up their cruelty and
vanity.
But if every man has the moral duty to react when confronted with such crimes,
it is doubly so of the religious societies and their heads, including Pope Pius XII
who said nothing, and above all, the head of the Catholic Church.
And so we not only show silence, then we get to complicity.
And that was brought out in another book, where it actually showed that the Vatican
had used Monsignor Stepanik to work with Anton Pablicek, who was the mass murderer
for the Ustashis.
And this document, then we go, there's a very concise book by Gunther
Louis.
It's written in 64, called The Catholic Church in Nazi Germany.
And he says that all the documents agree to show the Catholic Church cooperating
with the Hitler regime.
Now, there is no Adolf Hitler without Pacelli.
You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was an Austrian.
He was not a German.
He only received German citizenship in 1932, the year before he became
Chancellor.
He was a flophouse drunk.
He never read a book.
All he ever did was read newspapers.
His one-room little apartment there in Vienna contained old newspapers.
He was totally incapable of writing Mein Kampf.
Which is why Leo Lehmann, in his great book Behind the Dictators, says that the
Jesuits wrote Mein Kampf.
And their whole geopolitical pattern for Europe is dictated by Karl Haushofer,
who was another Jesuit.
Hitler followed it to a T when he subjugated Austria and then Czechoslovakia
and then attacked Poland.
But no, Hitler was nothing.
He was nothing.
He was just a crusader to preach the crusade against the Jews of Europe.
And so therefore, it was Eugenio Pacelli who had been personally tutored by the
Jesuits.
The Jesuit general, Francis Xavier Warnes, was his tutor in Rome.
And Warnes had a hand in the writing of the Code of Canon Law for 1917.
And Pacelli had been taught hatred of the Jews from the time he was a little boy.
And he was most devoted to the Jesuit Virgin Mary.
It just goes on and on.
And Pasqualina, who wrote the book on Adolf Hitler, she wrote La Popessa.
And in that book, it tells that Hitler visited Pacelli, who was the nuncio there
in Bavaria.
And he visited him and Pacelli gave him a sack of money.
And he said, go fight the crusade against communism, essentially.
And without Pacelli, who then goes back to be Secretary of State, who then becomes
Pope in 1939, without him, there is no Adolf Hitler.
Cornwall should have never wrote the book Hitler's Pope.
The book should have been called The Pope's Führer.
That's the proper title.
So no, you just go on and on and on as you find these things.
And then after the war, you have four key Jesuits who are involved in the cover of
the Pope in the Eurasian Jewish Holocaust.
And three of those Jesuits were BLEP, and one of them was Robert Graham,
an American Jesuit, and Robert Lebir, who had been the Pope's confessor.
All these four key Jesuits, and I name them in my book, were involved in
suppressing the evidence of the papacy under Pius XII, being the mainspring of
the whole Third Reich and the Eurasian Jewish Holocaust, not only of the Jews,
but also of the German Lutherans, because we have to remember Prussia was
destroyed in World War II.
Protestant Prussia was finished.
Hitler and Stalin worked together to destroy the Protestant Prussian people.
And we have the destruction of the 220 million Orthodox people.
And the Orthodox people have been condemned by canon law.
So the Jesuits are wonderfully and unbelievably orchestrating the dictators
of Europe together, allied in Axis together, in the annihilation of the
certain people they wanted to destroy, as well as in the establishment of the
Kingdom of Jerusalem.
Exactly.
And before we get to more pertinent things that are going on in our world today,
I wanted to mention... so many things are forgotten, but there was a speech by a
member of the Parliament for Levorn, a maid at Ortona, on the 15th of April
1946.
And Laura Diaz, who was a member of Parliament, said this.
She said, the Pope's hands are dripping with blood.
And then, students at Cardiff University, Cardiff University College, chose a theme
for a conference, and this was April 2nd, 1946.
Should the Pope be brought to trial as a war criminal?
And the answer is absolutely.
Absolutely.
And here's what's so interesting, though, and let me read this really
quickly.
Here's how Pope John XXIII expressed himself when referring to the Jesuits.
This is after all these facts and information comes out implicating the
Vatican, implicating Pope Pius XII with the Nazi war crimes.
He says, persevere, dear son, Jesuits, in the activities which have already
brought you well-known merit.
In that way, you will gladden the Church and will grow with an untiring ardor.
Your path is just as the light of dawn.
May that light grow and illuminate the molding of all adolescents.
In that way, you will help carry out our spiritual wishes and concerns.
We give our apostolic blessing with all our heart to your superior general,
to you and your co-agitators, and to all members of the Society of Jesus.
And then, when was this?
Just right after that, Pedro Rurupi, Father Rurupi, was named Jesuit General.
So that's how they view this whole thing.
Well, we have to remember, Greg, that the Jesuits have done only what they
said they were going to do.
You have to give, the devil is due.
The Jesuits, in their documents of law, in their documents setting forth what they
seek to establish and fulfill, which they don't want the public to read,
they have done exactly what they said they will do.
And for that, I respect them.
And, just when I read that, it was to show the hypocrisy of the Pope in the Catholic
Church, because how can a man in the highest position of the Catholic Church
express this loyalty and this adoration for the Jesuits, after they've been
involved in the most horrendous of genocides?
Because this is why, this is why, according to the doctrines of Thomas
Aquinas in his Summa Theologica, it is no murder to kill a heretic.
We have to understand that.
And without the shedding of the blood of the heretic, there is no salvation.
These are doctrines of Aquinas that the Jesuits have championed and put into their
moral theologies and into their Jesuit oath.
So, the Jesuit, after 15 years of education and brainwashed by his
superiors, is in the hands of his superior as a stick in the hand of an old man,
as described by Loyola.
And so, when they're given the order to kill, assassinate, defraud, become
involved in graft or whatever, they carry out the order without fear of
reprisal and without conscience and do exactly as they are told.
They are the perfect Manchurian candidates.
And wherever they are in their secret places, upon the order of their superior,
they immediately come out of their holes and do their bidding, do the work that
they've been told to do.
Just as if you ever saw the movie Brotherhood of the Bell, when Glenn Ford
is given an order to do something, it's absolute and complete and total
obedience, which is the maximum of the SS.
And so, this is how the Jesuits function.
And it goes all back to their theologies.
Right.
And, you know, the most important thing, I think, your book, your Vatican
Assassin's 3 does, is it brings all these facts to the forefront.
And then it also shows who's willing to discuss it in a logical manner,
to try to get to the problems facing our country, facing Europe.
And then it shows the people who are hiding it.
Because never once did I ever hear you say, believe, you know, believe,
just read what I'm saying, put it out there.
Never forcing anybody, but just to look at the material.
And that in itself, you know, the people that don't want to even look at it,
and just write it off and say, oh, this is just all baloney, shows
exactly how corrupted they are.
We'll get back, because I want to talk about the EU and other things that Jesuits
are doing overseas.
We'll be back after these short messages.
And I want to thank Liberty Radio.
Ah, here we are.
Okay, we're back.
And I wanted to thank Liberty Radio for running this.
And it really shows where we've come from, 63 with Kennedy, and then what our
president is saying now.
And I think I know why I cried, Eric, when I was a little boy when Kennedy
was killed.
It seems to me he was talking about the Jesuits.
That's right.
He knew the Jesuits well.
He had been trained by them.
He knew them in Georgetown, when he moved into Georgetown.
He attended Georgetown for some time, along with Jackie.
He went to their Jesuit church there in Washington, D.C.
He knew them like the back of his hand.
His parents attended Xavier Church there, where they have their cottage.
Massachusetts is what they're called.
I can't remember at the moment.
But they were part of his family life.
And yet, he knew exactly the power of his father and his relationship to Spelman.
He knew his father had caused the Great Depression.
And his father was the most powerful knight of Malta in the country at the
time, before his stroke.
And so, he knew.
And he made a conscious decision to resist them.
And what he just described in this preceding tape that we all heard,
is he's describing the Jesuit order to the T.
Because there is no such organization that can encompass such a vast array of
sciences and strongholds as the Jesuit order.
The Jews pale in comparison to them.
Yeah.
And I know you've written a lot about the Kennedy assassination.
And we'll save that for another show.
But I also... one argument that people make, who don't want to accept or even
start researching the Vatican's involvement.
Because I believe firmly that if we don't stop these people or expose them,
America has no hope.
It's that serious.
And one of their arguments is that, well, the Vatican may have been like that
in the future.
But, you know, in the past.
Yeah, in the past.
But they're not like that now.
And I wanted to read something and then get your opinion on that.
But this, by Pope John XXIII, about the Jesuits, shows they haven't changed.
And although he uses words like God and honorable, try to read between the lines.
He says, From the time of its restoration, this Jesuit religious family enjoys the
sweet help of God and has enriched herself very quickly with great progress.
The members of the Society of Jesus have accomplished many important deeds,
all to the glory of God and for the benefit of the Catholic religion.
The Church needs soldiers of Christ with valor, armed with a dauntless faith,
ready to confront difficulties.
That is why we have a great hope in the help you activity will bring us.
May the new era, now listen to this, may the new era find the Society of Jesus
on the same path it trod in the past.
Now, that was given on August 20th, 64.
So, how can anybody say their ideas have changed?
That's right.
No, they haven't changed.
And in fact, in the days just prior to their suppression, in France, Louis XV
said to Jesuit General Lorenzo Ricci, he says, Can't you just change the order
or change the maxims?
And Ricci very boldly said, Let them be as they are or else not be.
And that has become a battle cry for the Jesuits.
Let us be as we are or else not be.
They never changed, their designs never changed, their goal of world government
never changed.
In fact, one of my fellow researchers just happened to come across a very rare French
book, written in French, that I would like to have translated someday.
It's called The Kingdom of Solipses.
And isn't that great work?
It was written by a Jesuit, a renegade Jesuit who showed that the purpose of the
Jesuit order was to establish a world government, a kingdom of solipses.
And he had to go into hiding, and from what I had read, he had been knifed.
So they had tried to kill him, but the book managed to get out and become
circulated in Europe at the time, about the time of Eugene Su's work.
But they don't change, they are the same.
And of course Pope John XXIII, he had been involved in the Eurasian
Jewish Holocaust.
He was an archbishop, I believe, out of Turkey at the time, coordinating
with Turkey.
And he too was assassinated by them because he crossed them, and I cover that
in my book.
So no Pope has any guts to truly resist the Jesuit order.
And if the Pope has no guts to resist them, why should we expect any Roman
Catholic priest, archbishop, or cardinal, or any Roman Catholic politician of any
stripe to resist them?
None of them will, because now those Roman Catholic politicians, and others in the
know, know that the Jesuit general controls the international intelligence
community.
They are all combined, they all work together, hand in hand with the
international crime syndicate out of Sicily.
And so between those two international families, with in excess of probably 5,000
assassins, nobody with any lack of faith is going to cross them.
And that's where we are today.
I wonder if Kennedy understood how serious, how in danger he was when he gave
that speech.
Of course he did.
I have a quote from Tim Jones Jr. in one of the four books he wrote on Forgive My
Grief.
And there's a quote right in there, this is taken from Kennedy's secretary.
She said, he said, if they want to get me, they can get me even in church.
That's what he said.
So he had determined that he was going to die.
But he set out, and he refused to go along with it, and he sought to break their
power.
And it was very intriguing that nobody came to his aid or rescue, nobody of any
race, of any religion, including Billy Graham, the 33rd degree Freemason.
He knows all about the Jesuit Kennedy assassination.
Yet do you think he'd say a word?
All, we have been completely betrayed from the pulpit, the statesman, the academia,
the artists, they have betrayed us.
And so therefore we have to go back and dig up these works and start over again.
Yeah, and you know, it's interesting if you look at some of Kennedy's,
the changes he made.
He was hitting them right where it hurts, so to speak.
And that means in the Federal Reserve he wanted to get rid of, he wanted to
completely abolish the Black Pope's international network of the CIA,
the KGB, the Mossad, all working together at high levels.
And also wanted to expose the secret societies.
So I mean, he was really, you know...
And he was against the Mafia, too.
There wasn't any enemy he did not engage.
And every Baptist preacher, every true Protestant preacher should have united
behind him and gave him all kinds of moral support and took those very same messages
to the pulpit.
And he's absolutely right in what he says.
Can a Roman Catholic say something true?
Can a Roman Catholic say something right?
Of course they can!
And so therefore it should have been repeated in all these pulpits,
the JFK, although we feared for him, for our concerns that he's a Roman
Catholic.
He's obviously repudiated the temple power of the Pope.
He doesn't allow Spelman in the White House.
He doesn't allow Spelman to say Mass in the White House.
He refuses Spelman any access to the CIA.
He completely broke the back of what Eisenhower had created.
Right.
And thus he was killed.
And was immediately put back in place by that coadjutor Lyndon Baines Johnson,
that Freemason out of Texas, whose greatest friend was Wernher Ball
Schneider, the Catholic priest out of Stonewall, Texas, who was at the OBJ's
funeral with Billy Graham.
I have a picture in my book of them both.
Right.
You know, I wanted to get into something here real quick in this last 10 or 15
minutes, and then we'll have another hour to discuss the topic I wanted to,
and that is what can we do to solve this problem.
But I wanted to talk about the European Union.
Now, people don't know that the Vatican, well, they may know, the tax-exempt status
in Italy has made it possible for the Vatican to manipulate financially many of
the largest multinational corporations.
But the powerful influence is nothing when compared with the Vatican's power in the
world of European politics and religion.
A Jesuit priest said this when he wrote inside the Vatican.
He said, despite the importance of the papacy for the Catholic Church and its
prominent role in international affairs, its internal workings are little known to
Catholics, to world leaders, or to the world at large.
This general lack of public awareness is particularly noticeable with regard to the
influential role the Vatican has long been maintaining in connection with the
development of the European Union, which their plans then are to create the
American Union of Mexico, Canada, and America.
Tell us about, you know, this is just another, what I consider, the New World
Order led by the Vatican, taking control of Europe and then America right after.
What are your thoughts?
That's absolutely right.
As I cover my book, I cover the second Thirty Years' War.
Remember the Jesuits started the first Thirty Years' War in 1618, and it lasted
until 1648.
And at the end of that war, all modern historians will tell you, begins the
modern era, when inventions begin to take off, and the middle class begins to be
created, and national sovereignties begin to be established, and the temporal power
of the Pope is broken in northern European nations.
I mean, this is a very important date of 1648.
And so what the Jesuits did is, in 1914, they started their second Thirty
Years' War.
And it raged from 1945.
And in that second Thirty Years' War, they eliminated the nations and the
leaders of those nations who had been their enemies for over a hundred years.
And so after they had eliminated Protestant Prussia, and they had destroyed
the British Empire with German U-boat submarines, destroying over 600 ships that
linked the Protestant British Empire together, after they had destroyed the
Russian Empire and the Romanov Dynasty, that was the protector of the heretic and
liberal Russian Orthodox Church, after they had destroyed the perfidious,
quote-unquote, Jews out of Europe, by first confining them to the pale of
settlement, and then using Stalin and Hitler to kill them off from both
directions, because, you know, Jews were not allowed to retreat into
Russia, which totally destroyed the argument that Jews ran Russia.
If they did, they would have allowed all the Jews to flee from Poland into Russia.
But they were no man's land.
They were forbidden to flee, because they were in this pincer between Stalin and
Hitler.
So after all financed, by the way, by Henry Ford and other huge cartel
capitalists out of New York City and London, financing both sides.
So after World War II, then, the Jesuits then helped their greatest Nazis to escape
out of their rat lines, and they merged the NKVD and the OSS into new agencies,
using the old masters of the SS and the SD.
A portion of them went into each intelligence agency.
And so they were busy creating the international intelligence community
during the Cold War, under the false pretense that we can have thermonuclear
war, airborne nuclear war, which I have said many times, there is no proof of
mutually assured destruction, and airborne nuclear war, there is no proof for that.
And so therefore they put this Cold War upon us, and what happens is called the
violent peace.
The CIA commits 10 million murders during the time of the Cold War, according to
what John Stockman, who was one of the first defectors out of the CIA,
and he tells the truth.
And so they are busy using their intelligence agencies to further kill off
the leaders of nations, because they cannot allow any national sovereignty to
exist in any nation.
We must destroy their political leaders, we must destroy their racial identities,
we must destroy their language, we must mix the languages, we must destroy
their historic cultures, and so they were busy doing this during the Cold War.
And so now what we have is the Jesuits now destroying what was once white Anglo-Saxon
Protestant Northern Europe, and white Anglo-Saxon Protestant North America,
and also white Anglo-Saxon Protestant South Africa and Zimbabwe.
So they are busy finishing off these last bastions of the greatest resistors to
their temporal power, and in North America here they are busy merging Roman Catholic
Mexico, which has been destroyed thanks to NAFTA and GATT, via Bill Clinton and Lee
Iacocca, Knight of Malta, Iacocca, Kennedy Assassin.
And they are busy creating their I-35 highway, which will be the I-69 corridor,
for the purpose of our invaders when they come up into North America.
So the Jesuits' plans for the 21st century is to completely destroy what is left of
the Protestant Reformation, including the Bill of Rights and the Constitution,
any real freedoms that we've had, and bring the world under international
Jesuit fascism with the pillars of communism controlling the culture.
Yeah, and it's vitally important, I think, if the nations of Europe and
America remain free, then we have to wake up to what they are doing, both in Europe
right now, and tackle this critical issue of Rome.
And it's just so depressing that this country, the supposed leader of freedom,
which we know is a falsehood, probably is the only one that could possibly stand in
the way, and we have been sold out by the most important branch, and that's our
media, who could alert people to this.
And they are not doing it, and they're collecting money, going to the bank,
while this country will slowly fall into the hands of Rome and the Jesuits.
We have to remember that America, this is what we call America, has been in
the hands of the Vatican, certainly no later than Grover Cleveland, especially
with the Kennedy assassination, when the Jesuits killed Kennedy.
But from 1901, the fascist symbol of the fascists began to be displayed in the
House of Representatives.
I saw it there when FDR declared war, when the Congress declared war in 1941,
those fascist symbols were there in the House.
So we have had, in fact, de facto fascism in an American empire created by this 14th
Amendment, and this empire, with its Federal Reserve Bank, and its vast
resources, and men, this tremendous military power that's been built and
financed by the Federal Reserve Bank, has been used to just restore the Pope's
temple power around the world, and to kill heretics and liberals around
the world for the last 100 years, and this is merely a continuation in Iraq
of what's been done since the days of the Spanish-American War.
So for this to change, American people are going to have to realize that our country
has been taken over, and it has been taken over, for over 100 years, and they have to
start moving to resolve the problem.
One of the first things is, humanly speaking, is the Jesuits have to be
expelled from this country, and it has to be done by way of the government.
That means the Jesuits have to be broken of their death grip over the Justice
Department.
In fact, when you go into the Justice Department of Washington, D.C.,
there's a fence there, and a gate, and as those gates open, on the inner ends
of those gates, as it opens together, are the symbol of a Roman fascist.
A bundle of rods with an axe protruding at the top.
The Justice Department is fascist, and it's run by the Jesuits, and will
protect them, and they will never be expelled unless the Justice Department is
taken back.
Yeah, and the Church of Rome is one of the major players in this totalitarianism of
the New World Order, and just look at what they've done in Europe, and this is the
unfolding of the major global strategy, and you're seeing the Fourth Reich now,
I think, emerge out of its embryo, is the way I look at this, happening here
now, and it's about time Americans realize that this government has sold out.
So, to get to that point, where the government expels the Jesuits,
we've got a job to do to get the right people in government again.
That's right.
And there are those that seem to be right, like Ron Paul.
I mean, he advocates doing away with the Socialist-Communist income tax,
which is a violation of our Fifth Amendment right, trying to compel us to
make admissions and confessions on a tax return every year, which is typical Roman,
because you see, the Jesuits have designed this government of the Empire precisely as
they run their Vatican Empire, because every Roman Catholic is supposed
to go to confession once a year.
Well, now, every citizen of the Fourteenth Amendment is supposed to go to confession
every year, and it's called filing a tax return.
They've patterned it perfectly as they run the Vatican Empire pursuant to canon law.
So, when Americans begin to wake up and realize that the Vatican has taken over,
that the Archbishop of New York is really the President, the King of this Empire,
and there is no political individual who will dare disobey him, because they all
cower at his feet.
They're in St. Patrick's Cathedral hoping for his blessing that they can be in some
kind of governmental position.
The other thing is, the Jesuits with their 28 universities, their graduates go into
every facet of life.
Sports, entertainment, politics, law, medicine, inventions.
The Jesuits are the gatekeepers of the Patent Office.
Anybody who comes out with an anti-gravity craft that can actually fly on an
alternative fuel and be anti-gravity, it's all stifled because the Jesuits run
the Patent Office, and they will not grant a patent for that.
Because they control all that technology, and they don't want us goofballs,
us animals, to be able to enjoy the technology they enjoy.
So, when we begin to wake up to their absolute dictatorial control, that we are
nothing more than Federal Reserve people.
That's all we are.
The Jesuits look at us, and everybody they see, they say they're ours, they belong to
us, they're all in commerce, they're all trading commercial paper, they all get
their loans from our credit from the Federal Reserve, their government is,
it's very lifeblood, is dependent on our loans from the Federal Reserve.
Americans are nothing more than Federal Reserve people, they own nothing,
they have nothing, and they're all broke.
They all think they own something, but they don't.
So, that's how the Jesuits look at us, and therefore, since we own these people,
since we own their bank, since we own the clothes on their back, why can't we draft
them and send them off to our crusades to kill people that we want to have killed,
and might as well kill some of them too while we're at it.
Like, for example, the invasion of Omaha Beach, where it was primarily Protestants
that were put on the Omaha Beach, and they deliberately bombed the ocean,
they bombed behind the lines, so that the majority of those American soldiers could
be whacked by the German machine gunners.
I mean, this is the kind of things they do, that's why they want to know your dog
tag, what's your religion on your dog tag, so they know where to send you.
It's a conspiracy so large, as J.
Edgar Hoover said in 1954, that it boggles your mind, and we need to begin to wake up
and not call it a conspiracy theory, this is reality, because this is exactly
what Jesuits, canon law, and immoral theologians have called for.
Yeah, and I mean, all we have to do is look at Iraq today, over a million Iraqis
killed...
Is it a million now, Greg?
Yeah.
Terrible.
That's what they've heard.
We said it would be a war of annihilation.
Yeah.
We knew it was going to be a war of annihilation as soon as they went over
there.
And you know what I've also found?
The only guys, the only soldiers that came out against this were two black soldiers.
I haven't seen any white soldiers come out and say anything.
Now that one black soldier that was on for a day before they yanked him off,
that Eric, what was his name?
Yeah, I can't remember.
The other guy in Rousseau's work for Freedom of Fashion, he was a black fellow
Marine.
He said, I'm not going back there to kill any more poor people.
I haven't seen one white soldier to refuse to go back to Iraq, but we're committing
annihilation over there.
So hopefully someone will not disappoint us and come out and tell us, we're not
going back either.
It's a war of annihilation.
And yeah, I mean, it's so obvious that they're using our youth to kill off the
Iraqis.
And this is not going to end.
I mean, this is just the beginning of what their plans are, no matter what the
government tells you to pacify you.
Oh, we may remove the troops next year and lower the number, but we have to look at
the final analysis from our generals.
And I just think America... and then to see the lackluster resistance put up now
everywhere in this country, it makes me wonder if the American people aren't just
resigned to what's happening and say, well, we can't do anything.
What can we do?
I wonder about that.
What's your thoughts?
I think there's much truth to that.
Look at the attitude they take towards filing the income tax return.
I've never met anybody who wants to do it.
I've met many people that say, I have to waive my Fifth Amendment right
to do it.
But you know what?
The vast majority of the World War II generation, the baby boomers, they all
went along with it.
They all had fear and terror of the Internal Revenue Service.
And you know what now?
There's something a lot more terrifying than those sinners.
And that is the Department of Homeland Security.
When those monsters are unleashed upon us after we get our next 9-11 event,
and after Mecca and Medina are blown, they'll make the IRS and the BATF and all
these other alphabet agencies seem like Boy Scouts.
Because we didn't resist our invaders at our doorstep, now we will have to resist
them at our hearts.
And that's always a much more dangerous place than at the doorstep.
Yes, you're right.
The American people have resigned themselves to this.
And hopefully the Lord would send a revival as certain of God's men would
begin to preach the true gospel and return to the King James Bible.
And people would have courage and faith once again to resist even though the odds,
quote-unquote, are against them.
Yeah, and then I love people who say, once you get into the religious aspect of
this, so many Americans have become so apathetic to even the thought that
religion could be playing a part in this.
And the Vatican could be using it as a deception as they have over the centuries.
And I think that that is another key element here, that we must start exposing
the Vatican as well as other religious people for what they really are.
Absolutely.
And I put it in quotes, call themselves religious.
And then the apathetic Americans saying, oh, they can't even be involved in this.
It's a perfect plan they've got set up.
We've got to break it.
We'll be back after this short message.
Hey, we're back for the second hour of the Investigative Journal today.
I'm your host, Greg Szymanski, and I'll be here for the next hour.
And I'm here every day on LibertyRadioLive .com from 4pm to 6pm Pacific time.
And also, you can go and look at my website at www.ArcticBeacon.com,
and you can read about the Jesuits and many other things that we talk about on
this radio program.
And I also recommend you go to VaticanAssassins, and I believe that's
.org, right?
VaticanAssassins.org?
And you can get a lot of Eric's writings and also a copy of his latest 1500-plus
page book, Vatican Assassins III, and it's well worth reading for the
reasons that we've stated many times on this show.
And I wanted to make something clear to my listeners.
This is not a show, a potpourri of interviews done daily to entertain you or
to awaken you about the latest little piece of minutia about 9-11 or the little
piece of minutia about when the government is going to attack again, like many other
shows do.
In the past, I've whittled down my message to this very important message,
and that is the Vatican-led New World Order in all its tentacles.
And I do it for a reason, because I wanted it to be an educational program based on
the fact that no one's covering this anywhere.
The guests that I bring on, like Eric Phelps, are left to talk in a very small
market where they should be in a very large market.
And some of my critics have said, well, Greg, why don't you talk about some
other thing?
And I said, I will talk about other things once you put my guests on the major
networks, once Alex Jones and John Statmore put all these guests on,
and they're on on a basis equal to how they blame the Jews, how they blame the
geopolitical banking organizations.
And once there's an equality there, I promise I'll do other things.
But until that day happens, I won't, because there's no one that needs to be
told, and the message needs to get out, and it needs to be done in a repetitive
manner if these other organizations are hiding it and actually bringing down this
country, and it's going to lead to your demise, folks.
That I'm sure of, and I've learned that by just talking to all the people and reading
all the hidden stuff that I could not believe.
And I say also to my critics, I say, you know what, I lived over there for six
years.
I lived with these people, although I was quite naive back in 1979 through 85.
I saw what they did in Italy.
I saw the scandals, and now I put the pieces together.
And with that personal experience, together with the factual information
that's come out, to me, this message is not going to stop until these other people
start covering it, which they may never do because they might be on the payroll.
Or I can get an interview with Father Hans Kolvenbach, who I've tried to do,
and he won't talk to me.
And that's the leader of the Jesuits, and I figured, why not?
I'm a Catholic boy.
Why can't he talk to me?
He's a priest.
If I have some doubts, Father, tell me about it.
Talk to me.
You know, I have a law degree.
I can sit and talk with you intelligently, but he won't speak to me.
I've tried.
I've went all the way up to the Washington Assistancy to get an interview,
and I'm going to start trying again and rattle their chains a little bit more.
But these guys, Eric, do not want to talk about facts.
No.
You have penetrated their armor by becoming familiar with their doctrines and
their true history, and that they will not talk with anybody about outside of their
order.
But here's something I'd like to read to you.
It's a quote from Eugene Hsu.
I recommend that readers find the book The Wandering Jew.
It's in two volumes, and you need to get an older volume because the new ones have
been censored.
Here we read in volume one on page 312, 313, the following quote.
And this is a Jesuit who is speaking.
What ought not to be sacrificed in order to reign in secret over the all-powerful
of the earth, who lord it in full day?
This journey to Rome, from which I have just returned, has given me a new idea of
our formidable power.
For it is Rome which is the culminating point, overlooking the fairest and
broadest quarters of the globe, made so by custom, by tradition,
or by faith.
Thence can our workings be embraced in their full extent.
It is an uncommon view to see from its height the myriad tools whose personality
is continually absorbed into the immovable personality of our order.
What a might we possess!
Verily I am always swayed with admiration, I almost frightened, that man once thinks,
wishes, believes, and acts as he alone lists, until, soon ours, he becomes but a
human shell.
His kernel of intelligence, mind, reason, conscience, and free will,
shriveled within him, dry and withered by the habit of mutely, fearingly,
bowing under mysterious tasks, which shatter and slay everything
spontaneous in the human soul.
Then do we infuse as such spiritless clay, speechless, cold, and motionless as
corpses, the breath of our order, and lo, the dry bones stand up and walk,
acting and executing, though only within the limits which are circled round and
evermore.
Thus do they become mere limbs of the gigantic trunk, whose impulses they
mechanically carry out, while ignorant of the design, like the stone-cutter who
shapes out a stone, unaware if it be for cathedral or bagnale to baffle.
But now, in spite of the misfortunes which have befallen the order, and it's 1848,
I feel myself a thousand times more ready for action, more authoritative,
more strong, and more daring, at the head of our mute and black-robed militia,
who only think, or wish, or move and obey, mechanically, according to my will.
On a sign they scatter over the face of the globe, gliding stealthily into
households under the guise of confessing the life or teaching the children,
into family affairs by hearing the dying of owls, up to the throne through the
quaking conscience of a credulous, crowned coward, ay, even to the chair of
the Pope himself, living manifesto of a godhead though he is, by the services
rendered him, or imposed by him.
Is not this secret rule made to kindle or glut the wildest ambition, as it reaches
from the cradle to the grave, from the laborer's hovel to the royal palace,
from the palace to the papal chair?
That's Eugene Sue, in his masterpiece, The Wandering Jew, which is really a
suppressed book these days, and not read in any major college literature course.
Yeah, powerful words.
And by the way, Eugene Sue, because of his work, when in 1852, when there was a coup
d 'etat, and Napoleon III became emperor, he was driven from France, and never
allowed to return, and died in exile.
Unbelievable.
And these are kind of things that you're not going to get, I mean, one of the most
interesting things is the Jesuits call themselves the great educators,
but I think their major role is to keep the books on the shelf they want you to
read, and to take off the books that they don't want you to read, and many of them
have to do with criticisms and facts about their history.
And I, you know, one thing I asked, I asked a number of Jesuits in these
assistancies, I'd call them, and I remember talking to a couple of their
historians, and I started reeling off some of these books, and they said they had no
idea about them, that this was ever written about the Jesuits.
And I find that unbelievable.
If I can find it, how can a historian that's been trained for 14 years in the
Jesuit order not know about them?
Exactly right.
And they're very familiar with the priests who have left the order, or the priests
who have left Catholicism, and they're very familiar with their books,
like Fr.
Tinoquis, 50 Years in the Church of Rome, I have another one here called Dialogues,
Dealings with the Inquisition by Dr. Achille, who was a priest.
We have Papal Rome, we have another one here, the Kingdom of Seleucus,
England.
You know, they're all Catholic priests who left the order.
They fled to England where they could have protection there because it was a
Protestant nation.
And then they wrote all their works.
You have G.B.
Nicolini writing History of the Jesuits there.
He was an Italian.
He fled Italy and took up residence in England and warned the English people that
the Jesuits were going to overthrow England and the British Empire,
and of course, very few of them listened.
But he wrote his great work, History of the Jesuits, there from London.
So all these priests, and there are many hundreds of them, have written works
exposing the Jesuits, the duplicity of the Vatican, the Pope's temporal power,
assassinations and murders, and they have used their secret societies like Skull and
Bones and like the Knights of Columbus and high-level Freemasons in academia to
suppress these books.
I never forget when I went to a book sale at a major university around here,
and I found 50 years in the Church of Rome for 10 cents!
The Doctrines of Pius IV for 25 cents!
I found 50... I found a... Pope Repoussism and Jesuitism, one of the greatest
masterpieces written by an ex-priest on the power of the Jesuits ever written,
written in the late 1800s, founded for 75 cents!
So they have deliberately purged the libraries of the greatest works,
of the greatest exposés on them, because they don't want any honest,
critical thinker to evaluate them.
And I remember the interview he did a while back with the former Archbishop of
Guatemala, Gerard Bouffard.
The Bishop.
And this was another example.
Now, he was a liaison between the Black Pope and the Pope, and he verified
everything in, you know, that you, we talked about, and added some of the
things, you know, very credible.
He lives in Canada now, and I've tried to get him on the show, but he's very ill,
and I know...
You know, as I mentioned to you, he said he won't come back, because he was
told by some intelligence people up there to shut your mouth, and you're not going
to go back on that show anymore.
So that's why he won't come back.
Yeah.
Because you know, remember, British and Canadian intelligence, Canadian Secret
Intelligence Service, CSIS, is nothing but a tentacle of the CIA.
And so they do what they're told from Washington.
Same way with the FBI, same way with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,
they're all a tentacle of the Vatican, and anybody who seriously has any
credibility to come out and expose this, they are told to shut their mouth.
Right.
And I remember he brought some interesting information, verifying much of what we
talked about, about the Jesuit orders and tensions, the Vatican role in the New
World Order, and this comes from the mouth of a former Archbishop of Guatemala,
who I might add is now a born-again Christian.
That's right.
And when I was there to visit him a couple years ago, he showed me his broken
bishop's ring.
Because whenever a man ceases to be a bishop, they break the ring open,
they take out a certain seal, the tenet, but he showed me his broken bishop's ring.
He'd been in the Knights of Columbus, he had the sword, the outfit, the whole
thing of the Knights of Columbus.
He'd been inducted into high-level Freemasonry within a certain Catholic
cathedral up there.
He showed me all his regalia and all his uniforms, yeah.
And he mentioned that he was in the higher-level Freemason, and that many
archbishops are around the world.
That's right.
And then he's threatened.
So what does that tell you, folks?
If a guy is so credible as him, is threatened, and can't come on the show
again, don't you think there's an ounce of credibility in what we're talking about?
And don't you think there's really a reason for why they want to blame the
Jews, and why they want to keep this message off?
Because this is really how you're going to destroy the New World Order, and they
don't want anybody to know about it.
Because tell you what, what happened to Kennedy, we talked about that earlier.
And there's another interview I remember.
There was a guy named Jim Arabito, who had done a lot of exposing in the 90s
of the Jesuit Order, and he was on a world mission to expose this.
In fact, I pulled an interview that he did with Father Alberto Rivera, a former
Jesuit priest who was killed by them.
And it's just enlightening information that's been suppressed.
And as the Jesuits would have it, Jim Arabito was killed in an Alaskan plane
crash when he was on his mission to expose these people.
It's the same way they did to John Jr., JFK Jr., sure.
He wanted to find his father's killer.
He had $100 million to spend.
He was definitely a threat.
They killed Kennedy just like they killed James Arabito.
Yeah, yeah.
And you know, it's just amazing.
And I remember I've also had Nury Rivera on, and that's Father Alberto Rivera's
wife, who talked about how she's been threatened by the Jesuits and verifies the
story that he was killed because of his exposition of the Jesuit Order and the
things that we talk about.
So it's there, being covered up.
And hopefully, my only hope is that many more people do some research and begin to
expose this in many more places on the Internet.
And my hope is that someday we'll see it in the mainstream media, because that will
be the sign that our country is getting healthy again.
Eric, I know you wanted to talk about how to confront these people, how to
successfully live in this type of world, and what to do to, in a sense,
try and defeat this Vatican-led New World Order.
And I wanted to go over with... because we tried that last time.
We didn't get through it all.
And I know you had a lot more to say about that.
The last time we got, Greg, about another 40 minutes or so?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
This is a recap a little bit.
We have to remember the Dark Ages.
The Dark Ages, before the Jesuits existed, was run by the papacy.
The top orders were Franciscans, Dominicans, Benedictines, Augustinians,
etc.
And the papacy was running Papal Europe, and they had an Inquisition that ran
throughout all the nations in Europe.
That was their international intelligence community.
It was the Holy Office of the Inquisition.
And when anybody was ever accused, secretly accused... the accused were not
allowed to see their accuser.
Whenever they were secretly accused of saying anything bad about the Pope,
or bad about one of the kings that the Pope was using to rule that country,
they would be arrested at night.
The Inquisitor, dressed in red, would bang on the door, and then people
would come to the door.
Who was it?
The Holy Office.
And struck with fear and terror, the door would slam open.
They would grab the person, the man of the house, arrest him, take him down,
and torture a confession out of him.
And then once he confessed to his crime, like the Russian KGB and KVD, then they
handed him over to the secular arm to be burned.
After that, they confiscated all of his wealth and all of his land and property.
So the Inquisition today, through the Black Pope's international intelligence
community, works the same way.
And the IRS is a part of that.
And this is what the Jesuits have sought to do, to restore the blessed despotism of
the Dark Ages.
And there's a book called, The 13th Century, The Greatest of Centuries.
And in it, these Jesuit co-adjutants call for the restoration of the 13th Century,
when the Pope was the universal monarch of Europe.
And that's exactly what they want to do now.
And so what happened is, they had this power, you had the immorality of the
Vatican, the mass murder going on throughout Europe for several hundred
years.
And all of a sudden, God raised up a man, a few men.
Martin Luther, William Tyndale, John Calvin, and a few others who believed
the gospel.
Jesus Christ had died for their sins according to the scriptures, was buried
and rose again, and coming back, 1 Corinthians 15, and that they were
champions of justification by faith alone, not by any works of righteousness,
which we would do.
But by the simple grace of God, that we're saved by grace through faith
and not of ourselves.
The gift of God, not of works, as any man should boast.
And when Luther realized justification by faith alone, through grace alone,
and the scriptures were the final authority of faith and practice,
he said, there's no more need for the Pope.
There's no more need for the papacy.
And ultimately, he was expelled from the papacy, because he rejected the word of
God, and he became the great German reformer, out of which the rest of the
reformations took place, like in Holland and in England.
And what happened with this Protestant Reformation, when the Bible was put into
the hands of the common man in his own language, he could now read God's maxims
and his words for himself.
And so, in applying these maxims to everyday life, why these northern European
nations broke the temporal, the political power of the Pope over their nation,
after they had broken his spiritual power by believing on Christ, the one mediator
between God and men, according to 1 Timothy 2.5.
So, with the breaking of his temporal power, we now have what's called national
sovereignty.
There was no national sovereignty in the Dark Ages.
If the king did not do what the Pope told him to do, the Pope would relieve his
subjects of their allegiance to him.
And the first one that could get near him and kill him would be doing God a service.
So, there was no national sovereignty in the Dark Ages, but now, with the Pope's
temporal power broken, white national sovereignty begins in Germany,
it goes into Holland after an 80 year civil war, it goes into England with
Elizabeth and later Cromwell, and it also finds its way over here with the creation
of our Declaration of Independence and U .S.
Constitution.
All the colonies were historically white Anglo-Saxon, Presbyterian, and Baptist
Calvinists, 97% of them.
And so, what we have is the modern era taking place after the 30 years war ending
in 1648.
And so, with the modern era taking place, and national sovereignties arising,
and a middle class with its own money arising, using gold and silver coins,
or currency redeemable and such, because all the nations had gold and
silver coins, Europe and here.
What you had then was prosperity, you had a middle class, you had
inventions, you had science, you had advancement of civilization like it had
never advanced before, far beyond the Renaissance.
All because people embraced the Word of God, the Reformation Bible, for English
speaking people, the AB 1611, or if you please, the Geneva Bible, which comes from
the same essential Greek text.
And with that, the blessing of God was on those peoples, and that exalted their
nations.
And that's exactly what Proverbs says, righteousness exalteth a nation.
Well, how much more righteous can you be is when God looks at you and He sees His
Son?
And when you obey His Word and keep His commandments, then your nation,
your community, your home becomes prosperous and you begin to excel.
Well, the Jesuits cannot have this, so what we must do is we must destroy the
very foundation of this historic white Anglo-Saxon Western culture born out of
the Reformation.
So what we're going to do is we're going to wage war.
We're going to cause wars between these Protestant nations like England and
Germany.
We'll get them to war and kill each other.
And we will take the Bible out of their hands.
We'll split counterfeits in the hands of these people.
All come from a revision committee of 1870, the Westcott and Ward Greek text,
which is really Pro Jerome's Latin Vulgate Greek text.
And we're going to make all these different translations of this corrupted
Greek text, and we're going to flood England and we're going to flood America
with it.
And we're going to call it the American Standard and the New American Standard and
NIV and it goes on and on and on.
And so with that, the people have ignorantly departed from the word of God
because their pastors are hirelings.
They're not real pastors.
They're not real men of God because men of God will die for the sheep.
They don't care if they die as long as they're being obedient.
And so now the Jesuits have replaced the Bible with a book called the Bible,
which it's not.
And then they get control.
Once they break the spiritual power of the nation, like they broke our spiritual
power here in America by 1900, they took over the government.
And once they took over the government, the Pope's temple power was in place,
and then they will execute canon law.
So what did they do?
They used America and the British Empire and the German government to wage wars on
populations that they wanted to see destroyed, as well as their own
populations.
And so where we are now is we are at the lowest ebb of the Reformation that I've
ever seen in its history, and we're at the greatest pinnacle of Jesuit power that
we've ever seen.
So what is the answer?
The answer is we've got to do exactly what our forefathers did.
That's the only way we'll break their spiritual power.
No atheist is going to do it, no Muslim is going to do it, no Roman Catholic devoted
to the Pope is going to do it, and no Jew is going to do it.
It's going to take men who truly repented their sins, believed on the Lord Jesus
Christ, that he died for our sins according to the scriptures, was buried
and rose again and coming back.
And now you're placed in Christ, and now you have power as you're reading
the Bible to resist Satan's government and his greatest second cause, which is the
papacy.
Now that you're in this position, you have to enter into a solemn league and
covenant, as the covenanters did in Scotland with one another.
We begin to form our own churches, like the Szymanskis, or the Phelpses,
or the Hugheses, or the Eberhards.
There are going to be new denominations, God forbid.
But we're going to have our own churches, and we will then unite together under a
common league of fellowship, under a solemn league and covenant.
And we will covenant together with one another to protect one another,
to look out for one another, and to not go along with the tyranny of the government,
which leads to the next conclusion.
And that is formal and open secession by us once we are right with God,
because you see, God has established the divine institution of human government.
So therefore, what we have to do is, we then, once we have to declare our
sovereignty and establish our own human government, and then tell to the world why
we are declaring our sovereignty, as the Declaration of Independence did,
so that we have a just cause, a righteous cause, for declaring our sovereignty and
independence from Washington and the American Empire, and starting our own
nation-states once again in this North America.
And so, what examples do we have?
Well, we have the example of the Presbyterian Calvinists of Mecklenburg
County in North Carolina.
And I read to you from the Council of Charleston, it's November of 1986,
on page 17, we read, quote, Relationship between the Declaration of Independence
and the Mecklenburg Declaration.
Did Thomas Jefferson write the Declaration of Independence without borrowing from
another major document that also declared separation from Britain?
There is much evidence that Jefferson borrowed from the Mecklenburg Declaration
when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.
On May 20, 1775, one year before the Declaration of Independence was signed in
Philadelphia, the Scotch-Irish Presbyterians of Mecklenburg County,
North Carolina, met in Charlotte to declare their independence from the
government of Great Britain.
The following is a portion of this Mecklenburg Declaration.
Before I read that, I'd just like to comment here.
These guys had guts.
And the reason why they had courage is because they had faith.
And the reason why they had faith is because God imparted that faith to them in
the reading of the Reformation Bible, the King James Bible, or the Geneva Bible.
And because of their courage and faith, they just took a mere county and declared
their independence from King George III and his huge Royal Navy.
Here's a portion of that Mecklenburg Declaration.
We do hereby dissolve the political bands which have connected us with the mother
country, and hereby absolve ourselves from all allegiance to the British crown.
We hereby declare ourselves a free and independent people.
Our, and of right, ought to be a sovereign and self-governing association,
under control of no power other than that of our God and the general government of
Congress, to the maintenance of which we solemnly pledge to each other our mutual
cooperation, and our lives, and our future, and our most sacred honor.
That's where Jefferson got that in the declaration, from the Mecklenburg
Declaration.
So, this is what these men do, and if they did it then, Greg,
we can do it again.
God doesn't change.
If we honor Him, He'll honor us.
If we keep His commandments, He will honor us.
He will answer our prayers.
There's no reason why He could not bless a movement like this.
But it will take men who are completely devoted to the true word of God,
and to the Lord Jesus Christ, and they have no affinity to any particular
denomination.
Their affinity is to right teaching and the doctrines of grace as found in the
Bible.
And when they do that, the revolt, the true, healthy revolution will begin on
the pulpits, and that will carry over into the political, civil life of a people.
Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a... that plan, I mean, it sounds to me like the
only way to get this... to do what you're saying is to follow what people did in the
past.
And it seemed to work.
It worked, because the Lord intervened.
See, they weren't like Posse Comitatus.
They weren't like the Ku Klux Klan.
They weren't like all the identity people.
They weren't calling for you to get your guns and fight the government.
What these guys did is they first got right with God.
They had a public confession of sin in Scotland with the Covenanters.
That was their example.
They took the Westminster Confession of Faith.
It was the guideline for the Mecklenburg Declaration.
And then once they were right with God, then they openly declared their purpose by
withdrawing their allegiance to King George and reserving it only to the
Congress.
And then God blessed them with righteous men to lead them and men of faith and
courage to fly and fight on the battlefield against these tyrants when
they sent their armies against us.
And...
There's another thing, too.
This would be tantamount to say in Pennsylvania here, the county that I live
in is Lebanon, that Lebanon County declares its independence from Washington.
Go ahead.
That it will only submit to the leadership of Harrisburg.
So we're not totally lost.
We're on the part of our state.
So we're helping our state.
We're urging our state to do what we did in our county of Lebanon.
And then after Lebanon, then Berks.
And then after Berks, Lancaster.
And then pretty soon, all these counties begin to secede.
And then there's a movement in Harrisburg in Congress there for an ordinance of
secession.
The Pennsylvanians withdrawing from this empire.
Okay, Eric, let's take a three-minute break, come back, and talk some more.
This is Eric Johnstelf.
You have a new short message.
Okay, we're back on the Investigative Journal.
My guest is Eric Johnstelf.
He's the author of Vatican Assassin's Creed.
And we're discussing some solutions to the problem instead of always trying to just
talk about the problems.
And Eric, I think one of your major points is you must have a strong faith,
and then you must begin to declare your sovereignty from this illegal government
that we now have controlling us.
For many, many reasons, I think this is similar to what happened back in the
1700s.
But what are the differences?
How do you see this?
If this ever did move forward, what are the differences in modern-day
America?
Maybe bigger obstacles we have to...
We have no preachers.
We have no men of God with courage.
And that's what the colonists had.
The preacher there at Lexington, he would let his men out there.
They were the ones who died in the green.
He led all of his men in church to fight the redcoats.
And until we get over this brainwash of Romans 13 that it is a defense for
unlimited submission to tyranny, until we repudiate that heresy and start
to go back to what it really means, and that God instituted human government
for our benefit, and that they bear the sword for our punishment for evil,
and they are to reward us for doing good.
When that kind of biblical government is acknowledged, and that's why government
wasn't established, then we can go forward.
But it's going to have to start in the pulpits.
Therefore, what God's going to have to do, he's going to have to start saving some of
these men that are listening on this broadcast, giving them the faith of Jesus
Christ, and they're going to read the Bible for themselves, and they can start
their own preaching.
They can start preaching out on the street, or at universities, or whatever,
and you know what?
One day they'll get a following.
And then as they become more influential, and they start preaching, and they put out
a newsletter.
But they are fearless preachers.
They have no fear of the government.
They have no fear of anybody or anything.
And as they're beginning to preach, then people start to wake up.
And as they wake up, now your county has woke up, and ultimately you run for
election.
One of your church members becomes the sheriff.
Another guy becomes the county commissioner.
And then pretty soon you get these guys in places of government, and then you decide
to withdraw your allegiance to Washington.
And remember, the sheriff's the most powerful law enforcement officer of the
county.
Once that declaration of independence has been made, then you kick out all the
federal agencies.
All of them are gone, because now you have a sovereign county, and you're calling for
Harrisburg, or your state capitol in your state, to declare its independence from
Washington.
And once that happens, you now repudiate the national debt.
You now take all the land, all the property that's really been pledged to the
Federal Reserve because of the national debt.
You take it back.
You've taken back your land.
You've taken back your personal property rights.
You re-institute the common law.
You let people prosper.
Inventions begin to happen.
And when that people begin to prosper, people begin to be optimistic.
You allow the great
doctors to come into your country, where they can cure cancer and they can
cure heart disease.
There's no reason anybody should have those things.
And so once you do that, you have freedom of expressions, freedom of invention,
and you're going to see leaps and bounds growing in culture and progress.
Well, the judges don't want this.
So what does that mean?
We have to prepare for our defense.
Every man must be armed.
And we have to be willing to die for the sake of our God and for the preservation
of our nation and keeping it sovereign.
And it might be a little old state of Vermont.
Or it might be the state of Maine.
Or it might be the state of Tennessee.
But there's got to be some place somewhere here in North America, county by county,
that they will begin to secede.
And I can't think of any more of a reason than this horrible crime of bringing down
the World Trade Center, the crime of killing Kennedy and never resolving the
murder.
And now the crime of using our young people to fight this Pope's crusade on a
war of annihilation that ultimately is going to kill our military because it will
be betrayed.
We need to first repent, get right with God, establish our own government,
and then secede.
And, yeah, anything else you want to add on this?
Yes, there's a book that your listeners need to get a hold of.
It's called Lex Rex by Samuel Rutherford.
And Samuel Rutherford was a Bible-believing preacher.
He was hated.
His work was publicly burned by the agents of Rome and England because this great
work was the foundation for resistance to political tyranny.
And he names the Jesuits throughout the book as the masters of usurping the
government of England.
So we need to read Lex Rex.
We need to read Foxe's Book of Martyrs.
And we need to read the Reformation Bible and look back into our histories.
Turn off the TV.
It's nothing but Jesuit cinema and lies.
And get back into the truth, which will take work.
Yeah, and the obstacles seem insurmountable, I think, people that would
be listening.
Do you know what, Greg?
That's exactly what God likes.
He likes it when the odds are all against us.
I think of Joab when he said on the battlefield, he said, You go there and
I'll go here, and let the Lord doeth what seemeth good to him.
All that matters is that we are in a position of obedience where we're obeying
God.
And let the Lord doeth what seemeth good to him.
I think of Latimer, Ridley, and Fry that were burned at the stake at Smithfield.
And one of those men, I believe it was Fry, as he was condemned and they were
leading him to the stake, he stopped and he kissed all seven or eight of his
children, every one of them goodbye, by their age.
And then went to the stake and was burned.
I mean, if these guys can die for the gospel of Christ and kiss their children
goodbye, how much more should we be able to do the same thing in seeking to make a
place where our children can have a chance?
Because there's not a prayer for them now.
They have no future ahead of them.
That's a point that we need to discuss.
Yeah, what's the fate of our children and the next generation if we don't try to do
something?
I think you're right.
They don't have a chance.
And, you know, you've said some really good things and I think I wanted to just
add something.
And that is, if we look at all the patriot movements, many of the movements that have
tried to secede from the Union, there are many different ones.
They're all lacking what I think you touched on.
And that is faith and men of conviction who are not just operating out of a
secular mind state.
That's right.
They have no personal righteousness.
They haven't been declared righteous according to the scriptures.
And therefore they haven't coordinated their will to the Word of God.
Because, you see, it's first the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God.
That's what we submit to and we're cut by it.
As we're cut by the sword of the Spirit, God begins to remake us into something He
can use.
And then after we're in a position where we have been fashioned, where we can be of
service to the Lord and the sin is cut down on our lives to the place where we're
not constantly involved in sin, then He can begin to use us for these
kinds of things.
And that's where all the patriot movement boys, they're all lacking because they
have no personal righteousness.
It's not a biblical position founded in the Bible and based on the history of the
Reformation.
And it can never work.
And what happens is they concentrate solely on the secular aspect without
completely understanding what the New World Order is all about.
That's right.
Tying in the Jesuit-Vatican connection and the Inquisition to the same movement that
was happening back in the days we're talking about revolution in this country.
And so I think what you're getting at here, and I think I could make this
statement, maybe that's the reason that many of these patriot movements have been
unsuccessful.
And that's why people that look upon this now will say, well, look at all the people
in the past that have failed.
And the patriot movement, there's not one of them.
Because I was a part of some of them.
I was a member of the National Quarantine Barter Association, Golden Meat Society,
a whole bunch of patriot organizations.
Every last one of them are anti-Jew.
Every one of them.
So God's not going to bless them.
Genesis 12 is going to come into play.
I'll bless those that bless you, the seed of Abraham, and I'll curse those
that curse you.
So you're going to curse the racial Jews.
God will not get involved in what you're doing.
That's what Tex Mars is doing, cursing the racial Jews.
So now he doesn't have God's blessing in his ministry.
So we have to get away from that Jesuit sidetrack, that Jesuit rabbit trail,
realizing there are many evil Jews.
Looks like Larry Silverstein who made billions of dollars because of 9-11,
but he's a servant of the Archbishop of New York.
We have to call these Jews the Pope's Jews.
And they're servile to the papacy.
They have no king but Caesar, which is the Pope.
But once we get our doctrine right, and we realize who the true enemy is,
which is the Vatican, and especially the Jesuit order, which is the power behind
the Vatican, then we can petition our God.
And he will intervene for us.
And he will begin to answer our prayers.
Because you see, we now have personal righteousness.
And as we're cleansed by the washing of the water by the word of John 15,
he's in a position to answer our prayers.
If our prayers are pursuant to his will, and we want something good and not
something selfish for ourselves, he'll answer them.
He'll intervene.
He'll sow confusion in the hearts of the enemies.
He'll kill the leaders that are the most powerful.
You know, God will begin to intervene for us.
And that's what the Jesuits don't want.
That's why they teach us to be atheists in the schools.
That's why they've taken the Bibles out of public schools.
That's why they make infidels out of all your top academicians and scientists.
You have to imbibe in them there is no God, so don't waste your time praying,
because nothing's going to come of it anyway.
When history is completely contrary to that.
Right, and I think if you added that one aspect, the spiritual aspect you're
talking about, to a patriot movement, I think people would be surprised how
quickly the numbers would grow.
That puts the movement into a warp, warp drive, which is a little long.
When you want to put it in warp drive, it's got to be done with the Bible and the
power of the Spirit of God.
Then it goes warp, and then they can't catch you, and then God begins to protect
you, and he sows confusion in their camps.
It's just wonderful.
I saw that in the Dutch Republic.
I saw it in the American War of Independence.
I saw it in Cromwell on the battlefield at Dunbar and Marston Moor.
God intervening, that's the only solution.
When the Spanish Armada was sunk, when England was fixed after five days of
battling, the Clippers had run out of ammunition and food, and there was no one
to save them.
And then God sent a storm and wiped out two-thirds of the Spanish Armada,
killing 20,000 soldiers, and only 10,000 returned to Spain.
God will intervene for it.
I'm telling you, we're getting a Chinese invasion.
They're going to send their huge navy that's been built by the Knights of Malta
using our corporate cartel capitalists.
They're going to invade our country.
And you know what?
I said at the Con Con in 2002, if we would repent, if just God's people
would repent, and begin to start reading this real Bible, the AB 1611, and calling
upon Him in faith, and resisting these sinners in our government as well as
foreign policy, God would intervene for us.
The only thing we have to fear is not obeying Him.
We have to count our lives, we have to count all things but loss.
Dying is nothing.
It's easy to die.
It's hard to live for the Lord.
It's easy to die.
So when they put a bullet to our heads or whatever happens, it's easy.
It's home to be with the Lord.
The hard part is sticking around and doing what's right.
And the Lord will intervene, just as He did in the past in those examples.
And that's why I wrote Vatican Assassins, to give you a flow of history of how God
intervened for these people, these poor people who trusted Him and who committed
their lives to Him and sought to obey His word, and He intervened for them and their
countries and blessed them for it.
Yeah, and I mean this is another reason why the Jesuits and the Vatican want to
keep all this out of the mainstream or the alternative news.
Because once this is uncovered, that Spirit of God could really change the
tide.
And I think they know that.
That's right, they know it.
That's why they hate the doctrines of grace.
That's why they hate Calvinism.
That's why they hate the idea that man is totally depraved.
That man needs irresistible grace to come to salvation.
That Christ's death in a specific way was for His elect.
That there is an irresistible grace that God gives that calls you to salvation.
And when you're saved, there's a perseverance of the saints.
They hate the concept of the total depravity of man.
They think man is basically good and by reason they can know God, etc.,
etc., etc.
And so therefore they don't believe that man is an innate and corrigible sinner.
They hate that doctrine because when a man gets that in his soul and realizes he can
do nothing without Christ, then God, when you know you can do nothing,
then God begins to work through you.
And great things happen.
And the Jesuit orders put to flight.
For example, in England, the Jesuits had taken over King George III.
He'd be protected after Jesuit General Ritchie died in St. Angelo Castle in Rome.
He protected the Jesuits in England.
And so we're not surprised to see the Jesuits controlling King George III during
the American War of Independence.
But God intervened.
He used the French who had expelled the Jesuits to help us.
They sent their navy over to us.
They sent Lafayette to us, the boy general who dearly loved General Washington and
Washington him.
And as a result, God used France and Spain to give us victory and separation from
England because Spain had suppressed the Jesuits and so had France.
So God can do it again if we would but trust him and seek his face and not be
willing to do what ultimately we must do, and that is to go to the block if we have
to for the sake of the truth.
Right.
And those points, you know, and that, too, I think is really an inspirational
speech that you just gave because it gives many people out there who have found the
Word of God a reason to look at the secular aspect of this and work together,
and for those who are struggling to find truth or faith, to see how important it is
to have that faith and to get it from God and to see how the Vatican and Jesuits
have been manipulating both aspects.
That's right.
There was a movie out with Clint Eastwood in it.
It was called The Pale Rider.
We were listeners of Sea Inherited.
In that movie, the evil, wicked man who's in charge of the miners that are
destroying these other guys that have their little mines, their little gold
mines, when it's reported to him that there's preachers in town, he said,
He said,
Yeah, I remember that, too.
I remember that movie.
Yeah.
I watched it maybe even within the last six months, yeah.
But when you see that, when you see that, when you see...
Then you look at the social aspect of America, and I think people...
Once we've talked about the religious and the secular points here, look at the
social aspect of America, what we've turned into as a culture.
And isn't it exactly what the Jesuits wanted?
No faith whatsoever, a total group of people who live the high life,
watching TV, entertainment, pornography.
You know, it goes on and on and on.
And what that does is it keeps you.
It keeps you away from the important things in life.
I just wanted you to comment about their social aspect, the social plan they have.
Exactly right.
They've used their Supreme Court to legalize pornography, to legalize forced
race mixing, which is completely unbiblical.
They've used it to exalt the female to an equal level as the man, which is really
female supremacy now.
If you don't believe me, just watch what happens when you get a divorce and see who
gets what.
They have completely reversed everything.
They have destroyed our monetary system.
We have no wealth.
We can't save a dime.
They've given us lousy...
They've destroyed our domestic manufacturers.
They've destroyed our small businessmen.
That was the basis for all of our jobs and having fine American products.
It's one damnable thing after another.
And so the people think, who cares?
There's nobody who cares.
Give me another shot of whiskey or give me another hit on that joint or let's go do
an eight ball.
And so as a result of all this depression, that's the practical solution.
But the practical solution, when you embrace the Word of God, is it doesn't
matter how dark it is.
Because no matter how dark it is, the Lord's still on the throne.
He still has all power in heaven and earth.
And He can intervene and answer your prayers.
And when He does that with a host of people, things start to happen.
Yeah, and I think you're, you know, just so people know you a little bit,
you weren't always this way.
I mean, you come from a different background, so...
I was raised in Asia.
...if it happened to you, it could happen to anybody.
Tell us a little bit about your background.
If it can happen to me, it can happen to anybody.
I was raised in a little place called Terra Hills, California.
I was raised around Irish and Portuguese and Italian Catholic people.
Loved them dearly.
But in my family, we were atheists.
And, I mean, we were apostate Protestants.
We were once Protestant, but, you know, Jesus is just a good man, blah,
blah, blah, blah.
And so, I was in tremendous sin, even in high school.
And as a result, the Lord used that sin that I had gotten into to convict me that
I was going to hell.
And I knew if there was a hell, I deserved to go there.
And so, therefore, if there was a hell and I deserved to go there, then I needed
God's remedy.
His remedy was, his son had stepped up and he died as though he did all those
horrible things that I did.
And he was buried and rose again.
And now he's given me a free pardon.
He offers a free pardon.
And the Lord convicted me that that's exactly what I needed.
I needed to be forgiven of my sins.
And when that happened, the Lord saved me and he began to change me.
And I began to grow in his word and went into the Air Force and spent five years
there.
And so, but it's been a learning process and a growing process.
But the benchmark is the point of salvation when you believe the gospel.
And if God can save an atheist, living around other atheists, then he can
save anybody else for that matter.
And what would you say to people that would still have doubt, excuse me,
that would say to you, Eric, how are you so sure?
You could have taken the easy way out and just dismissed this and go, well,
it's just a story, heaven and hell, this God.
And you could have gone on your merry way, finding many, many different religions and
ways of life.
How could you tell a person that you're fairly positive or positive that you chose
the right way?
Well, simple, Romans 10, 17, faith cometh by hearing and hearing of the word of God.
When you begin to hear the word of God, and as you read it, there's something that
that book does to you.
I was saved in my room reading the book, Gospel of John, late at night one night.
My mother thought I was going crazy, even that Bible.
And when I was beginning to read that and I saw that, you know, for God so loved
that he gave his only begotten Son, and when I realized that I needed it,
that I had to have the forgiveness of sins, I knew that I was going to hell.
And I knew it was true.
God gives you the faith to believe.
Faith cometh by hearing.
It comes to you.
By how?
By preaching the word of God.
And the fruit of the Spirit is what?
Love, joy, peace, temperance, patience, meekness, faith.
Faith is the fruit of the Spirit.
I have full confidence that if you sit down and you read the King James Bible,
starting with the Gospel of John and then going to Romans, something will happen to
you.
And God will begin to get a hold of your heart on these matters.
Because it's his supernatural revelation and God gave his word, he preserved it,
and it's ready for us to read in 2007 tonight.
If he hasn't preserved his word, he can't hold the world together.
It's all a farce and we might as well go out, eat, drink, and be merry,
for tomorrow we die.
Yeah, and in a world like America where most of the preachers have been corrupted,
and we've presented much documentation on this show about that, many people are out
going around to different churches and looking and finding and hoping,
what do you get to lose?
Read the Bible, read that version of the Bible like Eric says, King James Version,
John and Romans, and what do you get to lose?
Nothing.
When you really think about it, and you may have something really great to
gain by opening up your mind and allowing that, even though I know many people get
turned off when they hear that word because of the propaganda that's been
spread about the Bible.
That's exactly right.
You've got the Jesuits and their coadjutors, the Phelps family.
And they have to endure that plague of having the same name they have.
Because what do they see?
All those people in the World Trade Center were wicked sinners and they all went to
hell and they all deserve to go to hell.
How do they know that?
How do they know there were some people in that World Trade Center that were saved
and knew the Lord?
How do they know that?
What this is, it's a Jesuit design to harden people against those of us who read
the Bible and the history of those who read the Bible, so that you won't read the
Bible.
That's what it's designed to do.
Yeah.
And then they get you going in all different directions.
That's right.
And without including this as one of the directions, that's what I'm getting at.
And so many people, really, I know because I can listen to people who respond to my
show and I just say, well, what have you got to lose?
I mean, give it a shot.
I mean, talking in strict American lingo, give it a shot, maybe you'll learn
something.
Here's an example of history.
Let me give you a complete, absurd example of history.
We all know of the mutiny on the bounty, right?
Right.
We're never told the rest of the story.
With the mutiny on the bounty, the bounty lands in Tahiti.
Squeeze it in.
Okay.
And those sailors, they get off in all kinds of sin.
And they're starting to kill each other.
Well, one of the sailors crawls back into the hold of the bounty and finds the
Bible.
And he starts reading it.
Then he gets saved.
He starts reading it to the others.
And in 20 years after the bounty, the English arrive there to arrest and
execute those mutineers.
And they found the island was civilized.
There wasn't any crime.
Because the Bible was part of its culture.
That's Tahiti then.
And if it did that to Tahiti, it can do that to any culture.
Try to read it.
Trust God about it.
Amen.
Right.
And we have about a minute, and I want to thank you again.
Any last words on the subjects we were talking about tonight?
Well, I hope I've tried to cover them clearly and dealt from a historical and a
biblical position.
I sometimes let my emotions carry me away, but I always want my emotions to follow my
reasoning.
So hopefully the listener will receive the blessing.
And my encouragement is to read the Bible.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and I'll show you how to be in that house.
Well, Eric, we're all out of time.
Again, thank you, and we'll have you on when you get back from your vacation.
Pleasure to be with you, Greg, and your listeners.
Okay, that was Eric John Phelps.
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history, also of the Manson family.
His book, despite a media blackout, a dominant corporate media blackout,
is number nine on the New York Times bestseller list.
The prosecution of George W.
Bush for murder, very important that this book go to number one so it cannot be
ignored.
It's not being ignored now.
He's already been before Congress, boldly saying prosecute Bush for murder.
You can hear gasp and freak-outs by the little neocon fake conservatives up there
who destroyed the name of conservatism in this country.
Absolute trash.
And the cowardly Democrats who basically had their arms twisted into even allowing
the hearings, trying to shut them down, but they couldn't shut down Vincent
Bugliosi.
Let's go to your phone calls.
David in Montreal, Canada, you're on the air.
Go ahead, David, you're on the air.
He's listening to his radio.
Let's move on.
Walt in Michigan, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
I'd like to have a couple questions for Mr. Bugliosi.
Go ahead.
Are you willing to also recommend the prosecution of Knight of Malta,
George Tenet, and all of the other members of the Knights of Malta that are running
this country for Rome?
And are you willing to prosecute those high-level Roman Catholics for their
complicit involvement in this false war in Iraq, as well as 9-11?
Well, this Malta or whatever you said, I'm not familiar with that term,
Walt.
But at the grand jury hearings, not hearings, but the testimony before the
grand jury, and documents would be subpoenaed, of course, and there would be
investigators interviewing people.
All types of information and evidence would come out at this state right now.
So you're saying you'd be looking at Tenet, though?
Well, yeah.
But at this particular point, certainly Bush did not conspire with himself.
He didn't do it himself.
He conspired with others.
And the two that would almost undoubtedly be prosecuted along with him, and I talk
about it in the book, are Condoleezza Rice and Dick Cheney.
I have a sense that Rove is up over his head in this, but the grand jury testimony
would probably answer that question.
Rumsfeld, I'm not sure about.
I have a sense about Powell that his only sin is weakness.
But in answer to your question, the grand jury proceedings would be
determined with the accompanying investigation.
Who joined with Bush in taking this nation to war on a lie?
But right now, off the top of my head, I would say certainly there's Bush,
Cheney, and Rice.
Whether there are more than that, I don't know.
Possibly Tenet also.
Mr. Bugliosi, I have one more thing.
You need to read a book called Vatican Assassins, Wounded in the House of My
Friends, which talks about 9-11 and all the people behind it.
Listen, I appreciate your call.
Hey, Walt, we don't screen your calls.
We let you on there.
And by the way, the Vatican has been against the war over there.
I'm not Catholic.
I'm not getting in the middle of this.
And I'll let you come on and ask your question, but the person you talk about
has told nothing but lies and BS about me.
So I know the stuff he's saying, that is his view, is a bunch of lunacy.
Okay, and Mr. Bugliosi, it's just craziness.
And so we're here trying to talk about serious issues.
You say, yes, I'd look at trying to go after Tenet and that isn't enough.
And then people that have slandered me and my family, said horrible things about me,
have to then make this show about selling their dirty book.
Okay, and I don't mean that the Vatican isn't involved in evil or the Nazis in
World War II.
I have guests on about that, like Jim Mars, but serious historical people who
don't run around saying lies about me.
So this isn't the place for you to do that.
Go hawk your bull somewhere else, pal.
That same guy says they drop bombs out of flying saucers and the nuclear bombs are
magical and black people need to be put in another country and everything else.
Okay, but then since I don't hail your God, I'm bad.
This is the mental illness of the American people.
We have a very serious person on the air talking about serious issues, not quack
garbage.
I'm sorry, Mr. Bugliosi.
I tried to let him run with his question and it was serious and it just turned into
pure bull.
We'll be right back with more of your phone calls.
For Vincent Bugliosi, stay with us.