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Good evening, and welcome to those
watching on the internet.

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Tonight is a... what do you call this kind
of topic?

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A hot topic or something like that?

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But fortunately it's only part one.

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There is still a part two.

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Now the topic sounds ominous, it's the
Jesuits and the counter-reformation.

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And I'm not going to deal with the
political intrigues and the oaths and all

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of these issues, because I've dealt with
that.

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You will find it all in the first series.

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We're going to look at the spiritual
aspects.

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And these are all the more serious,
because they are all the more dangerous.

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And I would like to venture so far as to
say that the whole world has been

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captivated by this intrigue.

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And that what we are going to speak about
in the next two lectures affects every

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single one of us, whether we know it or
whether we don't know it.

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It is not my intention to hurt anyone's
feelings.

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It's my intentions to show where these
things lead to and where they come from,

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and why some of them are not biblical.

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And that's not an easy thing to do,
because some people are sincerely involved

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in something and really honestly believe
that what they are doing is right,

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when in fact they have been deceived.

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Doesn't the Bible say that the greatest
problem or the first principle of the last

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days will be deception?

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So we need to know where this all comes
from, where it's all leading, and how does

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it affect me personally in the time that
we are living in.

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Protestantism is not solely the outcome of
human progress.

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It is no mere principle of perfectibility
inherent in humanity, and ranking as one

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of its native powers in virtue of which
when society becomes corrupt it can purify

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itself.

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And when it is arrested in its course by
some external force or stops from

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exhaustion, it can recruit its energies
and set forward anew on its path.

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It is neither the product of the
individual reason, nor the result of the

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joint thought and energies of the species.

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Protestantism is a principle which has its
origins outside human society.

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It is a divine graft on the intellectual
and moral nature of man, whereby new

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vitalities and forces are introduced into
it.

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And the human stem yields henceforth a
nobler fruit.

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It is the descent of heaven-born
influence, which allies itself with all

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the instincts and powers of the
individual, with all the laws and cravings

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of society, and which quickening both the
individual and the social being into a new

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life, and directing their efforts to
nobler objects, permits the highest

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development of which humanity is capable,
and the fullest possible accomplishment of

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all its grand ends.

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In a word, Protestantism is revived
Christianity.

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Isn't that well put?

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I like the way these writers wrote.

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This comes from the history of
Protestantism by Reverend Wiley.

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And it says, this is not based on some
reason, no fanciful thing that man has

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developed and thought up, and based on his
reasoning capacities and natural law.

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This is a heavenly graft.

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This is something from above, and not
something from beneath.

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Now if we want to know about the Jesuits,
we have to go back into history.

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And the Jesuits have probably caused more
turmoil on the planet than any other

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organization ever known to man.

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They have been banned by virtually every
single country where they have ever

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operated, including the Catholic ones.

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There are very few that didn't ban the
Jesuits, and they would always come back

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and pick up the pieces of a country that
lay destroyed and writhing after they

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dared to cross this organization.

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The Jesuits, throughout Christendom,
was menaced by formidable foes.

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I'm going to read you quite a few quotes
tonight.

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The first triumphs of the Reformation
passed.

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Rome summoned new forces, hoping to
accomplish its destruction.

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At this time, the order of the Jesuits was
created, the most cruel, unscrupulous,

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and powerful of all the champions of
potpourri.

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Cut off from earthly ties and human
interests, dead to the claims of natural

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affection, reason, and conscience,
wholly silenced, they knew no rule,

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no tie, but that of their order,
and no duty but to extend its power.

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The gospel of Christ had enabled its
adherents to meet danger and endure

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suffering, undismayed by cold,
hunger, toil, and poverty, to uphold the

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banner of truth in the faith of the rack,
the dungeon, the stake.

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To combat these forces, Jesuitism inspired
its followers with a fanaticism that

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enabled them to endure like dangers and to
oppose to the power of truth all the

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weapons of deception.

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There was no crime too great for them to
commit, no deception too base for them to

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practice, no disguise too difficult for
them to assume.

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Vowed to perpetual poverty and humility,
it was their studied aim to secure wealth

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and power to be devoted to the overthrow
of Protestantism and to reestablishment of

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the papal supremacy.

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When appearing as members of their order,
they wore the garb of sanctity,

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visiting prisons, hospitals, ministering
to the sick and the poor, professing to

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have renounced the world and bearing the
sacred name of Jesus who went about doing

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good.

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But under this blameless exterior,
the most criminal and deadly purposes were

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often concealed.

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It was a fundamental principle of the
order that the end justifies the means.

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By this code, lying, theft, perjury,
assassination were not only pardonable but

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commendable.

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When they served the interests of the
church, under various disguises,

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the Jesuits worked their way into offices
of state, climbing up to be counselors of

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kings and shaping the policies of nations.

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This comes from that classic great
controversy.

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And history has borne it out.

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Here is a quote from 1816 of John Adams
writing to President Jefferson,

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and he says, Shall we not have regular
swarms of them here, in as many disguises

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as only a king of the gypsies can assume,
dressed as painters, publishers,

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writers, and schoolmasters, if ever there
was a body of men who merited eternal

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damnation on earth and in hell,
it is this society of Loyola's.

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That's pretty straight, isn't it?

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This is history.

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This is history and you can check the line
through history and see the blood that

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flowed.

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And who was always behind it?

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The Jesuits.

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Now one of their main aims is to replace
this Protestant absolute, where the Bible

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and the Bible alone is the authority and
salvation is by Christ and Christ alone,

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with this policy that salvation has to go
through the system.

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So how do you replace moral absolutes with
the relativism?

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This is one of their objects, this is
their aim.

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Hebrews 12, 25 to 28, See that you refuse
not him that speaketh, for if they escape

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not who refused him that spoke on earth,
much more shall not we escape if we turn

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away from him that speaketh from heaven.

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We need to be grounded in Christ.

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We dare not, we dare not be sidelined into
assuming something else.

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Whose voice then shook the earth,
but now he has promised, saying,

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Yet once more I shake not the earth only,
but also heaven.

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And this word yet once more signifies the
removing of those things that are shaken

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as of things that are made, that those
things which cannot be shaken may remain.

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I believe with all my heart that
Christianity is in the shaking period.

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Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which
cannot be moved, let us have grace whereby

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we may serve God acceptably with reverence
and godly fear, for our God is a consuming

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fire.

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Choice.

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Here's a choice to be made.

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Bear in mind that it is none but God that
can hold an argument with Satan.

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There's too much presumption in the world.

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Too many people marching around commanding
Satan to do this, commanding Satan to do

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that.

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Not even Gabriel could stand against him
without calling the one who is what God

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is, Michael, to come to his aid.

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How much less we.

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What presumption we have in the world
today.

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It's unbelievable.

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Martin Luther versus Ignatius Loyola,
the founder of the Jesuit order.

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They were contemporaries.

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They lived at the same time.

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And yet they were so totally different.

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Luther's appeal was to submit the
conscience directly to God through the

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word.

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And Loyola's drive was to submit the
conscience to the papacy.

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Here was the distinction.

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Ignatian spirituality was to be achieved
through spiritual exercises by

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substituting imagination and encounter
theology for the reality of faith.

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He found another way of guaranteeing a
spiritual experience, which was no longer

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based on faith, but on the actual
substance.

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Here is a quote from Delbergine,
the history of the Reformation of the 16th

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century.

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Probably one of the best exposés on the
Reformation ever written.

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It's huge.

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Inigo, it's another name for, or short
version, of Ignatius Loyola.

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And the author writes, Inigo, instead of
feeling that his remorse was sent to drive

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him to the foot of the cross, persuaded
himself that these inward reproaches

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proceeded not from God, but from the
devil, and resolved never more to think of

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his sins, to erase them from his memory,
and bury them in eternal oblivion.

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Both Martin Luther and Inigo had this
sense of guilt.

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Both of them chastised themselves to get
rid of it.

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Martin Luther made the great discovery
that just shall live by faith.

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And Inigo did not.

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Luther turned towards Christ.

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Loyola fell upon himself.

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Visions came e'er long to confirm Inigo in
the convictions at which he had arrived.

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Inigo did not seek truth in the Holy
Scriptures, but imagined in their place

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immediate communication with the spirits.

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Luther, on taking his doctor's degree,
had pledged his oath to the Holy

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Scripture, Loyola at his time bound
himself to dreams and visions,

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and chimerical apparitions became the
principle of his life and his faith.

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Two directions.

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The one, faith-based.

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The Lord said it, therefore it is so.

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So, if you repent, I will wash you whiter
than snow, I will remove your sins as far

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as the east is from the west, and see we
are doing a new thing, that's what the

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word says, the devil says.

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You're guilty, you're guilty, you're
guilty.

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The Lord does not lie.

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By faith, I accept forgiveness in Christ,
whether I feel it or not.

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Inigo said, I want to feel it.

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I want to feel accepted.

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I want to know that I can talk with him.

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I will concentrate all my energy to
communicate directly.

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And before long, he was communicating
directly.

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But with whom?

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With whom?

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Luther declared, It is a light thing to
die for the word, since the word that was

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made flesh has himself died.

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If we die with him, we shall live with
him.

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And passing through that which he has
passed through before us, we shall be

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where he is and dwell with him forever.

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Faith.

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Statement.

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No need for any strange experience.

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At the Diet of Worms, he said,
Since your most serene majesty and the

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princess require a simple, clear,
and direct answer, I will give you one,

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and it is this.

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I cannot submit my faith either to the
Pope or to the councils, because it is

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clear as noonday that they have often
fallen into error, and even into glaring

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inconsistency with themselves.

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If then I am not convinced by proof from
the Holy Scriptures, or by cognate

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reasons, if I am not satisfied by the very
text that I have cited, and if my judgment

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is not in this way brought into subjection
to God's word, I neither can nor will

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retract anything.

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For it cannot be right for a Christian to
speak against his conscience.

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Here I take my stand.

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I cannot do otherwise.

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God be my help.

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Amen.

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That same historical source.

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So here were two total opposites.

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It's written, and therefore I believe it.

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I accept it by faith.

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Christ said so.

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It is so.

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Done deal.

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Isn't that nice?

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Isn't that nice?

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Do I have to prove my relationship with
someone else?

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Do I have to prove every day that there's
a relationship going in a marriage?

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Do I have to prove, how do I prove that I
love someone?

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If I say it, it must be accepted by faith.

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Here is Inigo kneeling before the Pope,
receiving his letters, and all of these

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things happened more than 400 years ago.

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The Society of Jesus first constituted in
the chapel of Notre Dame, Montreux,

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1534.

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Now in the chapel of the Sacred Heart in
Paris.

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And there it is.

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It's quite a magnificent edifice.

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You're not allowed to take any pictures
inside, but says nothing about outside.

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So let me take you there.

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Let's have a look at what we can see on
the outside.

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Fascinating place.

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They have all these magnificent statues
and they have these two interesting little

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engravings here on the building.

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The first one is the mother hen.

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Now it's interesting, you must understand
their mindset.

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Who is the mother, according to
Catholicism?

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The church, yes.

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Matthew 23, 37 says, Jerusalem,
Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets

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and stonest them which are sent unto thee,
how often would I have gathered thy

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children together, even as a hen gathers
her chickens under her wings?

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And you would not.

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Rome says, the church is the mother and
Christ is set aside.

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Matthew 15, verse 9, on the other side
here, they have this mythical bird,

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this pelican feeding its young with its
own flesh.

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Matthew 15, 9 says, in vain they do
worship me, teaching for doctrines the

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commandments of men.

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This is the bloodless sacrifice,
the offering of the flesh.

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Titus 3, 5 says, not by works of
righteousness which we have done,

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but according to his mercy he saved us by
washing of regeneration and renewing of

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the Holy Ghost.

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No, Catholicism says, we need works and
faith for salvation.

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Protestantism says, we need faith.

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Works are a consequence, not a means to
salvation.

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So if you are a Christian, you will have
good works, because you are impelled by

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the love of Christ to do good works.

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But you do not do the good works to get
brownie points in order to get a higher

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status or even to go to heaven.

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So there is a subtle difference here
between the two.

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Catholicism has them both embodied.

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Now that's the history.

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And it is a bloody history.

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When you go through all the mega wars,
the 30 year wars, the massacres of Europe,

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all the inquisitional activities,
even amongst themselves they had so many

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arguments when the inquisition was passed
from one order to the other and taken away

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from the Jesuits.

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Who?

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The poor Dominicans.

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They were slaughtered!

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And even after that, they will use it to
their advantage and say, look,

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even Catholic orders suffered so it
couldn't have been us.

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Are the Jesuits still relevant?

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Do they still have a role to play today?

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Well, in this year, we had this
interesting election of a new general for

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the first time in history.

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A Jesuit general retired before he was
forced to retire by his death.

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And the new Jesuit general is Father
Adolfo Nicolas from 2008.

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And here are the Jesuit electors.

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These are the inner core of the Jesuit
order.

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And it's interesting to read this extract
of a letter that Pope Benedict sent to the

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Jesuits just prior to this new election of
this general.

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So, here is the present Pope writing to
them.

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And he writes, I too gladly wish to take
this opportunity of a general congregation

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to bring such a contribution to light
which might be of encouragement for you

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and a stimulus to implement ever better
the ideal of the society.

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Jesuits, go and work to get society to the
level where we want it.

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In full fidelity with the magisterium of
the church such as described in the

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following formula which is well familiar
to you, to serve as a soldier of God

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beneath the banner of cross and to serve
the Lord alone and the church his spouse

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under the Roman pontiff the vicar of
Christ on earth.

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Jesuits, that's your job.

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And then he quotes an apostolic letter
from 1515.

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He says, One treats here of a peculiar
fidelity confirmed also by not a few

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amongst you in vow of immediate obedience
to the successor of Peter, perinde a

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cadaver.

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Good grief.

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This is Pope Benedict writing.

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Quoting and he says to them, Your
obedience to me must be as the obedience

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of a corpse.

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Perinde a cadaver.

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Like a corpse.

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You will have no mind of your own.

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Whatever is said, you will do.

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Blind obedience.

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The church has even more need today of
this fidelity of yours which constitutes a

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distinctive sign of your order.

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In this era which warns of the urgency of
transmitting in an integral manner to our

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contemporaries distracted by many
discordant voices.

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Jesuits, I need you now more than ever.

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And I need your blind obedience.

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Is that what he's saying?

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That's exactly what he's saying before the
vote took place.

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And here he is with the inner core,
the electors of the Jesuit order sitting

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in the front.

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He the man in white and they the men in
black.

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Fascinating.

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How does he feel about their institutions
of learning?

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This is the Pontifical Gregorian
University in Rome, the most prestigious

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Catholic Jesuit university in the world.

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And what did Pope Benedict have to say
about this institution?

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He says, once again, the Pope entrusts
this university to you.

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A work so important for the universal
church and for so many particular

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churches.

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It has always been a priority amongst the
apostolic priorities of the society of

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Jesus.

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Here is your entering wedge.

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This work is for the church and for all
the others.

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Well, let's have a look at how we shall
proceed and how they have managed to turn

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Protestantism into something which does
not even resemble primitive Protestantism.

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Here is Adolfo Nicolás, the new Jesuit
general, shaking hands with Peter Hans

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Kolvenbach, the previous general.

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And it says, Father Adolfo Nicolás of
Spain, the newly elected Superior General

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of the Society of Jesus, celebrates his
first Mass at the head of the Jesuits at

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the Church of Jesus, January 20,
2008.

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So this general, the previous general,
Peter Hans Kolvenbach, is the first

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general in history to be permitted to
resign.

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And here he has been sworn in,
made available by the Jesuit Order Press

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Office, Spanish Reverend Adolfo Nicolás
swears in as the Superior General of the

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Jesuits Roman Catholic Order during their
35th General Congregation in Rome's Holy

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Spirit and Sassia Church.

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January 19, 2008.

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The general of the Jesuits is always known
as the Black Pope because he wears black.

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And the White Pope is the Pope who is the
external...

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how do I put this?

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The external picture of the papacy.

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This is the yin-yang.

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The black and the white squares.

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The knowledge of good and evil.

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So the new general meets with the pontiff.

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Rome, 28th January, 2008.

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And this is Catholic World News.

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Jesuit officials released a statement
after the meeting saying that the

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conversation between Father Nicholas and
the Pope had been warm and friendly.

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And they reaffirm his personal respect for
the Vicarous Christ as well as the esteem

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of the whole society of Jesus.

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So this is all being made public.

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So first you have this letter reminding
them of their affiliation.

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And now you have the confirmation.

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According to the statement from the Jesuit
superior, Pope Benedict said that he was

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pleased to know that the general
congregation of the order which continues

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its meeting in Rome this week will reflect
on the message that the pontiff sent to

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the participants as the general
congregation began.

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So here they are together to reaffirm in
the spirit of Saint Ignatius its own total

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adhesion to Catholic doctrine in
particular on those neuralgic points

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concerning the mind which today are
strongly attacked by secular culture.

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So this order, is it dead?

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Yes or no?

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Definitely not dead.

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This is the largest order in the Roman
Catholic Church.

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This is the most powerful order in the
Roman Catholic Church.

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It is a military order.

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It has a general at its head.

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And all other orders have to subscribe to
it.

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Even the great orders of the Malta.

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Pope Ratzinger to the Jesuits.

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21 February 2008.

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Now I want you to listen carefully what
this pope wrote.

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And here's the Latin text for those who
would like to dispute this.

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Comes straight off their own webpage,
this Latin text.

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Here it is translated for you.

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For this I have invited you today to also
reflect in order to find again a sense of

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fuller obedience to the successor of
Peter.

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So that it does not only involve the cases
of sending you on missions to far lands

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but also in the most genuine ignited
spirit of feeling with the church and in

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the church to love and to serve the vicar
of Christ on earth with that effective and

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affective devotion that must make of you
the precious and irreplaceable

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collaborators in the service of the
universal church.

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That's powerful.

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So the duty is to love and to serve.

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What does the Bible say what is our duty?

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To love and to serve the Lord God with all
our heart and with all our soul and with

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all our mind.

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Here we have a totally different order.

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Here we have a human being taking the
place of Christ.

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Being served as though he were Christ.

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Now the whole reformation separated on
these issues from the Roman Catholic

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Church.

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And finally after much bloodshed the
council of Trent came together and that

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was championed by the Jesuits.

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This is the council of Trent conclave and
unfortunately Martin Luther was already

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dead when the council of Trent took place.

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And my question is this the Vatican II
council which we read about which started

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in 1965 and which suddenly opened the
doors to all Christian communities to be

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acceptable again because before that date
it was said that there is no salvation

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outside of the Roman Catholic Church.

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You can only be saved as a Roman Catholic.

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That's why I became an atheist.

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It's true.

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Because my mother was a Protestant.

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She was Lutheran.

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And she died when I was 12 years old.

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And she took 4 years in dying.

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And in those 4 years in my religious
instruction I was told repeatedly that my

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mother not being Catholic had no hope of
salvation and would go to hell.

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And I hated God.

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And I rejected Him.

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But after 1965 suddenly she was okay.

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All she had to do was acknowledge the
supremacy of the papacy and even the

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separated brethren could be incorporated.

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So my question is did the Vatican II
Council change the Roman Catholic position

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established at the Council of Trent that
there is no salvation outside of the Roman

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Catholic Church?

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Well, let's ask the Roman Catholic Church.

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That's the best way to do it.

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My quotes as you will see come direct from
the Vatican.

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Directly.

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This is the address of His Holiness
Benedict XVI to the participants in the

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plenary session of the Congregation for
Doctrine and Faith.

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In the old days that was called the
Inquisition and Ratzinger used to be the

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head thereof.

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He says, Your Eminences, venerable
brothers in the Episcopate and in the

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priesthood, dear and faithful
collaborators, it gives me great joy.

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He starts all his addresses like that.

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It gives me great joy to meet you on the
occasion of your plenary assemble.

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I can thus express to you my sentiments of
deep gratitude and cordial appreciation

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for the work that your carries out at the
service of the Ministry of Unity.

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So, dear Inquisition, you have a Ministry
of Unity to get them all back under the

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wing of the Mother.

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Entrusted in a special way to the Roman
Pontiff, it is a ministry expressed

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primarily in the terms of unity of faith
resting on the sacred deposit whose

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principal custodian and defender is the
successor of Peter.

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He is the principal custodian of unity.

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Last year, in particular, the Congregation
for Doctrine and Faith published two

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important documents which offered
doctrinal clarification on essential

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aspects of the Church's teaching on
evangelization.

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Let's see where we go.

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The first document is entitled,
Responses to Some Questions Regarding

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Certain Aspects of the Doctrine of the
Church.

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In its formulation and language,
it re-proposes the teaching of the Second

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Vatican Council in full continuity with
the doctrine of the Catholic tradition.

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Thus, it confirms that the one and only
Church of Christ which we confess in the

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creed has its subsistence and permanence
and stability in the Catholic Church and

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that therefore the unity, indivisibility,
and indestructibility of Christ's Church

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is in no way annulled by the separation
and division of Christians.

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Has anything changed since the Council of
Trent?

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No.

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It's exactly the same.

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It's just couched in fancy terminology.

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This comes from, where does it come from?

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Vatican.va That's their own webpage.

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I'd like to read what this present Pope
has to say.

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And if we would read it, we would not be
so confused.

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It's mind-boggling what he says,
but nobody bothers to read what he says.

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The Second Vatican Council assertion that
the true Church of Christ subsists in the

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Catholic Church dogmatic constitution
lumen gentium does not exclusively concern

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the relationship with the churches and
Christian ecclesiastical communities,

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but also extended to the definition of
relations with the religions and cultures

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of the world.

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And the declaration, digitalis humanae,
on religious liberty, the Second Vatican

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Council affirmed that this one true
religion continues to exist in the

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Catholic and Apostolic Church to which the
Lord Jesus entrusted the task of spreading

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it amongst all men.

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Nothing has changed.

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The only thing that has changed is
Protestants believe that it has changed.

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Far from preventing authentic ecumenical
commitment, this difference will encourage

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a realistic and fully informed discussion
of the issues that still separate the

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Christian denominations.

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So the papacy is not hiding it.

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They're saying we're the boss,
we're the only ones, and salvation is only

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in us, so when you are joined to us,
you better realize it, because you don't

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accept me as boss, you're out,
you're dead, you're lost.

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They're pretty plain on this issue.

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Wow.

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No problem.

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So let's go towards full Christian unity.

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There is no doubt about the issue,
and when the ecumenical councils say,

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but you know, Rome has changed.

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Read what they're saying.

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They haven't changed.

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Here's another one.

38:19.050 --> 38:22.790
Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith
responds to some questions regarding

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certain aspects of the doctrine of the
church.

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Here is the official mouthpiece of which
Ratzinger was the head.

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Levada is now the head.

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Bishop of San Francisco first question,
did the second Vatican council change the

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Catholic doctrine on the church?

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It's asked them straight, they're doing it
themselves here, comes from their own

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webpage.

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Response, the second Vatican council
neither changed, nor intended to change

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this doctrine, rather it developed,
deepened, and more fully explained it.

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Clever.

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This was exactly what John the 23rd said
at the beginning of the council.

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Paul the 6th affirmed it, and he commented
on the act of promulgating the

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Constitution, Lumen Gentium.

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There is no better comment to make than to
say that this promulgation really changes

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nothing of the traditional doctrine.

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Isn't that plain?

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Absolutely crystal clear.

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Thank you, we know where we stand.

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What Christ willed, we also willed.

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What was still is.

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What the church has taught down through
the centuries, we also teach.

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We haven't changed.

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I hear so much, but they've changed,
they've changed.

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Here they say they haven't changed.

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In simple terms, that which was assumed is
now explicit, that which was uncertain is

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now clarified, that which was meditated
upon, discussed, and sometimes argued over

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is now put together in one clear
formulation.

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This is how it is, accept it or else.

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Now, how did they get this doctrine into
all the Protestant churches?

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And how did they get their Protestant
churches to change from what they believed

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to what they practice now?

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Protestantism used to say, here is the
Antichrist and therefore we will separate.

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Now they have another Antichrist,
who hasn't even come, probably will come

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when they're not even there, so why should
they bother about it?

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Or he's already dead.

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You know, it's just total chaos.

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And what have they got in the place
thereof?

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Well, the Jesuits entrusted with the
spreading of this new dogma, of course it

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would be the Jesuits, the most important
one was Karl Rahner.

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1904 to 1984, and Vatican II.

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Now we must study their doctrines.

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And who was his special co-worker?

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None other than the present Pope.

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They were both architects of Vatican II.

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Karl Rahner is undoubtedly the most
important Roman Catholic theologian in the

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20th century.

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His seminal position amongst his
contemporaries results to some extent from

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his ability to put theology and philosophy
into dialogue.

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This is very dangerous, because once we
start turning truth into philosophy,

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we can go anywhere.

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We can go anywhere, and philosophy is the
thing that trips up the intellectuals.

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Wonderful.

41:38.620 --> 41:41.860
Karl Rahner originated a new religious
category.

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Anonymous Christianity.

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Isn't that clever?

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Saying it embraces Buddhists, various
other non-Christians, and even atheists,

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who are conscientious, upright,
and caring.

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They're alright, they're Christians.

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Some kind of faith in God is basically
there, whether they know it or not,

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says Rahner.

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They are part of the Christianity that
does not call itself Christianity.

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Pagans who have received grace,
but who are not aware of it.

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That's beautiful.

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Everybody is incorporated.

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Everybody is embraced.

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All you have to do is say Papa,
and you'll be okay.

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Do you recognize these two gentlemen in
this picture?

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Karl Rahner and Paparazzi.

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We shouldn't call him Paparazzi.

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We shouldn't really do that.

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Two progressivist shirt-and-tie priests at
the Vatican too.

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Father Joseph Ratzinger was a co-worker
with Father Karl Rahner at the Council.

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The two of them are together.

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Please note what Rahner said.

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Rahner's motto was effectively,
Our Lord must conform to the world,

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not it to him.

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Hmm...

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His influence was enormous.

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He satisfied a modern world, a modern
churchman whose ears were itching for

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doctrinal compromises under the precepts
of enlightenment.

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Here was a new philosophy.

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I thought I'd throw Our Redeemer Lutheran
Church webpage in here which sort of

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defines where we're standing.

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I'm not going to read the whole thing,
just which doctrines are necessary for

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unity?

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Dr. Richard Bucher both in the 16th
century and ours, it has been assumed that

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agreement in every church teaching is not
necessary for unity.

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Separate Christians, separated Christians
need only agree on the essentials or

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necessary or fundamental doctrines.

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We just have to have a few points of
contact.

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Do you believe in Jesus?

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Yes, I believe in Jesus.

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Is He the only way to salvation?

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That's not relevant.

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We at least believe in Jesus.

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Muslim, do you believe in Jesus?

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Yes, He was wonderful, He was a good
prophet.

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And so we have points of contact.

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Well how far do you go until you have
absolutely nothing left?

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Right.

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Now what is the aim of Protestantism?

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And what is the aim of the Jesuit order?

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The aim of Protestantism is to spread the
gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ.

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To spread the good news.

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The Messiah has come.

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Come all ye who are weary and heavy laden
and He will give you rest.

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Not Jesuitism.

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I cannot too much impress, says Nicolai in
the history of the Jesuits, upon the minds

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of my readers that the Jesuits,
by their very calling, by the very essence

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of their institution, are bound to seek by
every means, right or wrong, the

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destruction of Protestantism.

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This is the condition of their existence,
the duty they must fulfill or cease to be

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Jesuits.

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That's why they were called into
existence.

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Accordingly, we find them in this evil
dilemma.

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Either the Jesuits fulfill the duty of
their calling or not.

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In the first instance they must be
considered as the biggest enemies of the

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Protestant faith and in the second as bad
and unworthy priests and in both cases to

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therefore to be equally regarded with
aversion and distrust.

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Straightforward talk.

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Now let's have a look how the world has
changed since Vatican II.

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What have they done with this new theology
of embracing everyone?

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The Second Vatican Council and the
Charismatic Renewal.

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Did you know that the Charismatic Renewal
really only started taking off after the

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Second Vatican Council?

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Here is Pope John XXIII who called that
Council.

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On the 25th of January 1959, only two
months after his election as Pope,

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John XXIII surprised the world by
announcing the Council to give the Church

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the possibility to contribute more
efficaciously to the solution of the

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problems of the modern age.

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The joyful echo brought about by its
announcement as well as the lively

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interest on the part of non-Catholics and
even non-Christians.

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Wow, here we have a total ecumenism proved
in the most eloquent manner that the

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historical importance of the event has not
escaped anyone.

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Vatican II and the Charismatic Movement,
the Cardinal appointed to oversee this

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issue and who served on most of the
committees was Cardinal Sunnis.

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Cardinal Joseph Sunnis, he's a Templeton
Prize recipient.

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Well, there's an interesting connection.

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We'll have to look at the previous one.

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He was also a Mason.

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He was initiated on June 15, 1967.

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He was chosen by Pope John XXIII to be one
of the chief architects of Vatican II.

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He sat on all four major commissions.

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He stated, since I've had this Charismatic
experience, my allegiance to the Holy

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Father as the Vicar of Christ in the world
has been heightened and strengthened,

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my appreciation for Mary as the
co-redemptress and mediatoress of my

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salvation has been assured, and my
appreciation of the Mass as the sacrifice

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of Christ has now been heightened.

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All of those points Protestantism rejects.

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And yet, this Charismatic experience led
him into embracing these doctrinal eras,

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even in a greater fashion.

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This is what Vatican II has to say about
the charisms.

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It is not only through the sacraments and
church ministries that the Holy Spirit

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sanctifies and leads the people of God.

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Please note that statement in the first
place.

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So if you partake in a sacrament,
you get sanctified.

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So an action sanctifies?

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There's no salvation by these works,
according to the Bible.

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He distributes special graces amongst the
faithful of every rank, and the

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manifestation of the Spirit is given to
everyone for profit.

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These charismatic gifts, whether they be
the most outstanding or the more simple

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and widely diffused, are to be received
with thanksgiving and consolation.

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For they are exceedingly suitable and
useful for the needs of the Church.

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Isn't that fascinating?

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So this is what II Vatican Council had to
say.

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Let's embrace this because this is going
to help our Church.

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But Paul VI, speaking at the International
Conference in 1975, he says 1975 marks the

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year of the renewal coming of age in the
Catholic Church.

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And he told them, nothing is more
necessary to this more and more

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secularized world than the witness of the
spiritual renewal.

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That we see the Holy Spirit evoking in the
most diverse regions and milieu.

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How then could the spiritual renewal not
be a chance for the Church and for the

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world?

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And how in this case could one not take
all the means to ensure that it remains

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so?

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Who's behind the charismatic renewal after
you've read these?

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And the Pope himself spoke in tongues.

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1975, Pope Paul VI is giving his address
and Christianity Today reports,

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bishops, archbishops, cardinals struggling
to keep their hats in place sang and

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danced in ecstasy embracing one another,
raising their arms to heaven.

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And Pope Paul VI's address was punctuated
with ecstatics.

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He spoke in tongues and here is this
mega-movement.

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Alberto, one doesn't always know how
perfect these quotes are, but this is

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historically at least accurate.

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He says, Catherine Kuhlman was one of
Rome's greatest undercover agents.

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Assigned to penetrate the Pentecostal and
Protestants through the charismatic

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movement.

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She was a master of hypnosis and had
tremendous psychic powers.

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As a reward for her outstanding work,
she was granted a private audience with

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the Pope.

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As a result of her work, most now teach
unity, but seldom preach separation and

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holiness which Rome dreaded.

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And that's a fact.

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Here is a picture of Catherine Kuhlman as
she spoke to the people and healed them,

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much like the televangelists heal people
today.

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And here is a picture of 1907-1976 20th
century American faith healer.

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She believed in miracles, deliverance by
the power of the Holy Spirit, and was part

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of the Pentecostal arm of the Protestant
Christianity.

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Here is Protestantism receiving this
infusion.

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She was known for her healing crusades.

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In fact, Time Magazine once called her a
veritable one-woman shrine of lords.

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If you want to be healed, go to Catherine
Kuhlman.

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She was given an honorary doctorate by
Oral Roberts University.

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Well, I don't want to go there.

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You can look at my previous DVDs to see
what all that is about.

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And it's fascinating that in 1973 Benny
Hinn attended one of her healing crusades.

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And this was the catalyst for his
ministry.

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It is thanks to Kuhlman that we have
slain-in-the-spirit experiences in the

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world today that she made popular in
evangelical circles.

52:11.240 --> 52:17.060
Homer Duncan, the ecumenical movement,
gives this description of the 1975 full

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gospel convention.

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Now notice here what Catherine Kuhlman had
to say about the papacy and how... this is

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Protestantism speaking, supposedly.

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At the full gospel businessmen's
fellowship world convention held in

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Anaheim, California.

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This was 1975.

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This is the same year that the Pope spoke
in ecstatics.

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Various speakers from different
denominations used such expressions as

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charismatic ecumenism.

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The Lord's ecumenism.

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Charismatic Eucharist.

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The emphasis on reconciliation with all
churches was a major theme.

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And charismatic Catholics were prominent
on the program.

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Catherine Kuhlman said, quote,
I want you to know that Pope Paul VI would

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have fit in very well with this great
worldwide convention.

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He would have understood everything that
was happening.

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He would have understood this is part of
God's great plan.

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I believe the charismatic movement has
been duped and used as a mega drive for

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unity.

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After all, if the outpouring of the Spirit
is the same, then it must all be good.

53:39.710 --> 53:43.770
Roman Catholic priest John Battaluzzi
spoke at the same one.

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He spoke about Holy Spirit baptism.

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He said, during the week we have
charismatic mass, just a gorgeous

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experience of worshipping the Lord in the
midst of the Holy Eucharist.

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He continued, but you know the Lord is
doing a whole new thing.

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He's pouring out His Spirit on all flesh,
all denominations, on everybody,

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and this is the Lord's ecumenism.

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Fascinating.

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All roads lead to Rome.

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And this is what they used.

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The Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland,
and I want you to note what this man has

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to say.

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Here is the Free Presbyterian Church of
Scotland's clerk to the synod.

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And he wrote when these things were
happening, and this was in 1975,

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that's not so long ago, this is what he
had to say on behalf of his Protestant

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church.

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He was the clerk of the synod.

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He said, the ecumenical movement which you
praise, and he wrote this to the Times,

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and they published it, the ecumenical
movement which you praise is the greatest

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disaster to affect the Christian church
this century.

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It has reduced the professing churches of
this country to a collection of bloodless,

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spineless, and boneless organizations
which can hardly raise a whimper on the

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side of Christ and his truth.

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Small wonder that the evil progresses as
it does, and spiritual darkness becomes

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more intense as the years go by.

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You appear to regard a body of professing
Christians of sober conduct and deep

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spirituality of mind as fanatical and
bigoted.

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See?

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Gets turned around.

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If you believe in the Bible, you're a
bigot, you're a fanatic.

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But if you believe in the experience,
you're a Christian.

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If this be so, then the eminent men of
God, such as John Knox in Scotland,

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John Colvin, Martin Luther on the
continent, Archbishop Cranmer in England,

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were bigots, and their contests with the
era of potpourri.

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We are glad to be in such company,
he said.

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I'm afraid those voices are gone.

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We don't find voices like that anymore.

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No, the hype gets bigger and bigger.

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Pope John Paul II and the Charismatic
Renewal.

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What they are saying just boggles the
mind.

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Here he's meeting with some half a million
representatives of various churches in

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1998, and he boldly proclaimed,
Open yourselves docilely to the gifts of

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the Spirit.

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Accept gratefully and obediently the
charisms which the Spirit never ceases to

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bestow on us.

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Whatever comes take it.

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What does the Bible say?

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Mustn't we test the spirits?

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Is this thing from God or is this thing
not from God?

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No, the Pope says whatever comes,
just take it.

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This is what we need.

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And how many are there in the Catholic
Church?

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If you don't believe the Catholic Church
is behind them, look at their charismatic

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bishops.

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Good grief.

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Well, these are their priests.

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Charismatic priests from different
movements met at the Vatican in 1990.

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This comes from inside the Vatican.

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There they are.

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This is the drive.

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The bigger, the better.

57:14.850 --> 57:18.730
Catholic Charismatic Movement,
Pope John Paul II addressed to the

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Pontifical Council for the Laity,
1999.

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We have experienced the grace of a new
Pentecost.

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There are many signs of hope which have
flourished for the mission of the Church,

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among which are the discovery and the
appraisal of charisms, the renewed zeal

57:37.030 --> 57:40.250
for evangelization, and the advancement of
lay people.

57:40.690 --> 57:41.570
This is a movement.

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Let's walk amongst the people.

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Walk amongst the people.

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In 1998 he said, this is Pope John Paul
speaking, come Holy Spirit, come and renew

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the face of the earth.

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Come with your seven gifts.

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Come spirit of life, spirit of communion
and love.

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The Church and the world need you.

58:00.430 --> 58:05.770
Come Holy Spirit and make every more
fruitful the charisms you have bestowed on

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us.

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Give new strength and missionary zeal to
these sons and daughters of yours who have

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gathered here.

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Open their hearts.

58:12.710 --> 58:14.910
Renew their Christian commitment to the
world.

58:15.070 --> 58:17.730
Make them courageous messengers of the
Gospel.

58:18.370 --> 58:22.170
Witnesses to the risen Jesus Christ,
the Redeemer and Savior of man.

58:22.370 --> 58:24.870
Strengthen their love and their fidelity
to the Church.

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Sounds nice.

58:26.690 --> 58:30.410
Then he stated boldly, the movements are
the hope of the Church.

58:31.730 --> 58:34.350
And Cardinal Ratzinger said exactly the
same thing.

58:34.450 --> 58:36.970
He said it is Pentecostal hour.

58:37.990 --> 58:40.150
Now what's basically wrong with this?

58:41.510 --> 58:49.410
The Bible says that the Lord Jesus Christ
would go to heaven and that the disciples

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were to wait for the outpouring of the
Spirit which would come from Him.

58:55.990 --> 58:58.690
Whatever you ask in whose name?

58:59.770 --> 59:03.990
My name you shall receive.

59:04.630 --> 59:14.530
For our Heavenly Father and then he tells
the story of will He give you a whatever

59:14.530 --> 59:22.770
in the place of and then he talks about
stones and fish and bread and he says our

59:22.770 --> 59:25.090
Heavenly Father will give you the gift of
the what?

59:25.750 --> 59:26.810
The Spirit.

59:27.630 --> 59:35.050
If we ask in the name of Jesus,
God will bestow the gift of the Spirit to

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minister unto others in spreading the
Gospel.

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That was the aim.

59:41.170 --> 59:46.050
Here we have a direct access to the Holy
Spirit.

59:46.470 --> 59:49.970
Christ is set aside and this is not
Biblical.

59:51.210 --> 59:56.290
Meeting with the ecclesiastical movements,
Pope John Paul II said, with the Second

59:56.290 --> 01:00:00.570
Vatican Council, the Comforter recently
gave the church which according to the

01:00:00.570 --> 01:00:03.170
Fathers is the place where the Spirit
flourishes.

01:00:03.810 --> 01:00:09.130
A renewed Pentecost instilling a new and
unforeseen dynamism.

01:00:09.790 --> 01:00:12.970
Whenever the Spirit intervenes,
He leaves people astonished.

01:00:13.070 --> 01:00:15.810
He brings about events of amazing newness.

01:00:15.810 --> 01:00:17.690
And so he goes on and on and on.

01:00:17.810 --> 01:00:19.490
We need the guidance, the charisma.

01:00:19.950 --> 01:00:24.430
It is not only through the sacraments and
the ministrations of the church but

01:00:24.430 --> 01:00:26.130
through this outpouring.

01:00:27.010 --> 01:00:31.450
And the present Pope adds his voice before
answering questions from an assembly of

01:00:31.450 --> 01:00:32.450
more than 100 bishops.

01:00:32.650 --> 01:00:37.270
He says, I have had the joy and the grace
to see young Christians touched by the

01:00:37.270 --> 01:00:38.330
power of the Holy Spirit.

01:00:38.910 --> 01:00:42.530
At a time of exhaustion when there was
talk of a winter of the church,

01:00:42.630 --> 01:00:44.930
the Holy Spirit was creating a new spring.

01:00:45.930 --> 01:00:49.590
The challenge today is not to allow the
faith to withdraw into closed groups,

01:00:49.750 --> 01:00:53.190
but to have it enlighten everyone and
speak to everyone.

01:00:53.510 --> 01:00:54.610
How did they get this right?

01:00:55.530 --> 01:00:59.430
How did they manage to open the doors for
the Spirit?

01:01:00.430 --> 01:01:02.030
And here comes a clue.

01:01:03.290 --> 01:01:06.230
Rome May the 7th, 2006.

01:01:06.530 --> 01:01:07.870
This is a Catholic source.

01:01:09.030 --> 01:01:14.390
More than 10,000 members of communities of
the Catholic Charismatic Renewal will

01:01:14.390 --> 01:01:18.190
observe the vigil of Pentecost with
Benedict XVI.

01:01:19.230 --> 01:01:20.550
And this is what they said.

01:01:21.050 --> 01:01:22.650
The unknown God.

01:01:23.570 --> 01:01:28.430
The Holy Spirit considered until a few
years ago as the unknown God.

01:01:29.050 --> 01:01:33.830
He's the one who with His grace tirelessly
changes the lives of thousands of people

01:01:33.830 --> 01:01:38.310
in all corners of the world, who with
renewed joy through the experience of

01:01:38.310 --> 01:01:44.290
baptism in the Spirit begin a new life
precisely in the Holy Spirit, they said.

01:01:45.230 --> 01:01:55.970
So here we have a move and a way from
Jesus Christ and His centrality from whom

01:01:55.970 --> 01:02:02.950
are all things to a direct worship of the
Holy Spirit.

01:02:03.730 --> 01:02:09.290
And we sing interesting songs and we
invoke the Holy Spirit and we talk to Him

01:02:09.290 --> 01:02:12.470
and we pray to Him and we say,
come and do this for me.

01:02:12.970 --> 01:02:16.470
And this is not following the biblical
avenue.

01:02:17.630 --> 01:02:23.370
The biblical avenue is no one comes to the
Father except by Christ.

01:02:24.270 --> 01:02:26.950
So the centrality of Christ has been
shifted.

01:02:28.310 --> 01:02:29.770
He's the one we wish to honor.

01:02:31.010 --> 01:02:32.550
Talking about the Holy Spirit.

01:02:33.610 --> 01:02:36.290
He's the one we wish to honor and glorify
publicly.

01:02:37.030 --> 01:02:41.490
Responding to the appeal that both John
Paul II as well as Benedict made.

01:02:41.970 --> 01:02:47.290
The CCR and the whole church to spread the
culture of Pentecost and the actions of

01:02:47.290 --> 01:02:51.050
the Holy Spirit in the life of the church
and in each of the faithful, the director

01:02:51.050 --> 01:02:55.090
added, this celebration which will include
moments of prayer.

01:02:55.530 --> 01:02:59.790
Now I want you to listen carefully because
it gets sneaky.

01:03:00.770 --> 01:03:09.270
Moments of prayer, listening, witnessing
invocation of the Spirit will end with a

01:03:09.270 --> 01:03:10.390
celebration of prayer.

01:03:10.610 --> 01:03:16.850
A music concert, a dance which will be
presented as prayer by artists of

01:03:16.850 --> 01:03:18.050
different countries.

01:03:18.430 --> 01:03:19.110
What have we got?

01:03:20.010 --> 01:03:21.210
We have a liturgy.

01:03:22.250 --> 01:03:27.550
We have a mode of action in the place of
faith.

01:03:28.610 --> 01:03:29.310
Fascinating.

01:03:29.730 --> 01:03:31.050
Now where's all this come from?

01:03:31.050 --> 01:03:35.970
Father Reneiro said, pontifical household
preacher and Father so-and-so,

01:03:36.090 --> 01:03:40.350
one of the initiators of the charismatic
experience, will speak on grace and the

01:03:40.350 --> 01:03:42.630
power of the Holy Spirit during the
celebration.

01:03:44.170 --> 01:03:44.850
Fascinating.

01:03:45.310 --> 01:03:49.530
So here is a movement which has changed
the face of Christianity.

01:03:50.730 --> 01:03:56.810
Which has refocused Christianity in a
totally new direction.

01:03:57.310 --> 01:03:59.290
And it's highly experiential.

01:03:59.290 --> 01:04:07.550
Now the Jesuits prepared the way in this
world by first working away and chipping

01:04:07.550 --> 01:04:11.050
away at the moral absolutes of
Christianity.

01:04:11.790 --> 01:04:16.050
And one of the ways they did it was
through the hippie movement.

01:04:16.970 --> 01:04:21.450
So here you have the hippie movement of
the 60s, where everything went,

01:04:21.790 --> 01:04:26.830
when drugs came into this world,
free love, all of those nice things.

01:04:26.830 --> 01:04:33.790
The Jesuit people, the hippie movement was
led by the Jesuits, such as Max Auley.

01:04:33.810 --> 01:04:38.730
When you saw those little cars where the
drugs were being handed out, the Jesuits

01:04:38.730 --> 01:04:39.850
were never far away.

01:04:40.830 --> 01:04:45.150
Max Auley from Georgetown University,
a Jesuit university, this led to the

01:04:45.150 --> 01:04:49.730
anti-establishment Jesus, with the long
hair, the let your hair down philosophy,

01:04:49.950 --> 01:04:54.510
the love gospel, the liberation gospel,
the prosperity gospel, the coffee house

01:04:54.510 --> 01:04:59.090
Jesus, the rock and roll Jesus,
the existential Jesus who meets the needs

01:04:59.090 --> 01:05:00.490
of all cultures and creeds.

01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:02.090
So here we go.

01:05:02.590 --> 01:05:04.430
Let's get with it.

01:05:05.910 --> 01:05:07.690
And you thought the hippie movement is
dead.

01:05:07.770 --> 01:05:08.550
It's not dead.

01:05:08.910 --> 01:05:15.410
Today, the hippie movement is incorporated
into organizations, and these sprang out

01:05:15.410 --> 01:05:17.490
of it, like the Green Peace movement.

01:05:18.530 --> 01:05:19.990
Isn't that fascinating?

01:05:20.410 --> 01:05:24.430
And you have all of these friends of the
Earth movements, and the Action Coalition,

01:05:24.670 --> 01:05:28.550
and the American Civil Liberties Union,
and the Green Peace International,

01:05:28.670 --> 01:05:32.790
and the Global Recycling Network,
and the US Fish and Wildlife Services,

01:05:32.910 --> 01:05:38.150
and the Socialist Party, and mega
organizations have come out of that

01:05:38.150 --> 01:05:38.610
movement.

01:05:39.250 --> 01:05:44.410
And here was Max Auley, he used to stand
on the street corners, he was arrested,

01:05:44.570 --> 01:05:48.370
he was the forefront leader.

01:05:48.630 --> 01:05:53.430
Here he says, should we then take life,
or should we?

01:05:53.690 --> 01:05:55.490
You know, death, hate, whatever.

01:05:56.370 --> 01:06:00.170
Here is Jesuit priest, professor at the
University of Georgetown University,

01:06:00.370 --> 01:06:03.910
he was a Marxist priest, and who were his
students?

01:06:04.850 --> 01:06:06.710
Bill Clinton was his student.

01:06:08.610 --> 01:06:15.990
Fascinating, and these Georgetown
professors who advocated that Clinton go

01:06:15.990 --> 01:06:21.170
for a Rhodes Scholarship, and what else
was he?

01:06:21.590 --> 01:06:25.610
He was the mentor of the whole Kennedy
family.

01:06:26.510 --> 01:06:30.230
So here he was, an activist for all of
these things.

01:06:30.350 --> 01:06:37.590
This is Georgetown University's own
webpage talking about Max Auley,

01:06:37.610 --> 01:06:44.290
and it says that he had Bill Clinton in
his class, and that he was the mentor,

01:06:44.470 --> 01:06:47.630
and friend, and confidant of the Kennedy
family.

01:06:47.930 --> 01:06:51.330
He was also associated with Martin Luther
King.

01:06:52.850 --> 01:06:54.150
And please note what he said.

01:06:54.990 --> 01:07:00.030
He says about Martin Luther King,
I saw him as a great Christ figure.

01:07:00.850 --> 01:07:03.390
So I followed him and marched with him.

01:07:03.770 --> 01:07:06.150
King explained the meaning of the gospel
to me.

01:07:06.310 --> 01:07:11.770
He taught us that Jesus was serious about
non-violent love, racial justice,

01:07:12.070 --> 01:07:12.870
peacemaking.

01:07:13.310 --> 01:07:16.970
King showed us how to live the gospel as
well.

01:07:17.730 --> 01:07:18.650
Isn't that interesting?

01:07:19.150 --> 01:07:24.070
So all of these activist movements,
the Jesuits, were behind them.

01:07:24.610 --> 01:07:29.570
And then the music industry and the rock
industry, which had its simple beginnings

01:07:29.570 --> 01:07:32.710
with groups like the Beatles and all of
those.

01:07:33.250 --> 01:07:41.590
And here you have the Beatles and their
songs about Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

01:07:41.730 --> 01:07:42.330
You remember that?

01:07:42.790 --> 01:07:43.850
And what does that stand for?

01:07:43.950 --> 01:07:45.050
I'm sure you all know.

01:07:45.750 --> 01:07:48.150
It stands for LSD and the drug world.

01:07:48.950 --> 01:07:53.470
And all of these movements, the Jesuits
were behind it.

01:07:53.590 --> 01:07:54.650
Nietzsche's nihilism.

01:07:55.530 --> 01:07:59.850
Nihilism is the notion that ethical norms
are nationally unjustifiable and a

01:07:59.850 --> 01:08:03.430
consequent mood of despair over life's
emptiness is resolved.

01:08:03.770 --> 01:08:04.950
Who creates the emptiness?

01:08:05.790 --> 01:08:08.590
Who brings the drugs and says there's no
purpose to life?

01:08:08.730 --> 01:08:15.210
If you take away absolute morality and you
take away the Bible, well then there's

01:08:15.210 --> 01:08:16.230
nothing left.

01:08:16.850 --> 01:08:22.530
So you have free love, existentialism,
here you go, and anything goes.

01:08:22.810 --> 01:08:26.610
And then you come to the point where you
realize, well, I'm blowing my life away,

01:08:26.790 --> 01:08:28.510
what's the point in all of this?

01:08:28.970 --> 01:08:31.070
And then you supply the lack.

01:08:32.150 --> 01:08:33.310
And here's the danger.

01:08:34.650 --> 01:08:38.750
Nietzsche defined the concept of the
situation which exists when everything is

01:08:38.750 --> 01:08:39.190
permitted.

01:08:39.190 --> 01:08:41.950
And this drug world was important.

01:08:42.850 --> 01:08:46.290
In the Rick Martin interview with Eric
John Phelps, Phelps claims that the

01:08:46.290 --> 01:08:50.530
Beatles were Jesuit-controlled and that
the drug world is controlled by Rome via

01:08:50.530 --> 01:08:52.530
the Mafia, which is Jesuit-controlled.

01:08:53.190 --> 01:08:55.550
Here are the Beatles with their drug
songs.

01:08:55.970 --> 01:09:00.850
The Beatles were the first rock band to
use the Devil's Triad on a record album.

01:09:01.350 --> 01:09:02.570
And there you can see it.

01:09:02.910 --> 01:09:06.990
There he is using it, and there even
animated, so there's no chance here.

01:09:08.170 --> 01:09:14.270
Von Helsing states that the Beatles used
backtracks, and this is what he says,

01:09:14.370 --> 01:09:19.550
song revolution number nine, message,
start smoking marijuana, turn me on,

01:09:19.670 --> 01:09:22.230
dead man, referring to Jesus.

01:09:22.490 --> 01:09:29.930
John Lennon in 1962 said to Tony Sheridan
at a star club in Hamburg, I know that the

01:09:29.930 --> 01:09:34.870
Beatles will be successful such as no
other group has been, I know it for sure,

01:09:34.870 --> 01:09:40.010
because this success I have sold,
for this success I have sold my soul to

01:09:40.010 --> 01:09:40.390
Satan.

01:09:41.590 --> 01:09:47.110
This comes from Jan von Helsing,
Geheimgesellschaften und ihre Macht,

01:09:47.970 --> 01:09:49.770
and it's a quote from him.

01:09:50.630 --> 01:09:56.770
And then you have this philosophy shift,
bringing in a new philosophy, and

01:09:56.770 --> 01:10:02.570
Heidegger's caring brought into this
nonsensical world.

01:10:02.570 --> 01:10:07.710
God is dead, therefore life's answer lies
within the self.

01:10:08.110 --> 01:10:09.910
Have you heard that on television these
days?

01:10:10.930 --> 01:10:15.550
Self esteem, Christian psychology supplies
the lack, Heidegger taught that the soul

01:10:15.550 --> 01:10:21.090
would then authenticate itself by showing
concern for others, or caring.

01:10:21.890 --> 01:10:23.790
So now you have a caring Christianity.

01:10:24.510 --> 01:10:32.250
Heidegger's existential caring,
Sorge, to take care of others is based on

01:10:32.250 --> 01:10:34.810
Dasein, to be there.

01:10:35.070 --> 01:10:39.350
So here I am, I'm in a mess, how do I get
myself right?

01:10:39.570 --> 01:10:41.270
How do I get a form of spirituality?

01:10:42.150 --> 01:10:44.730
I take care of others.

01:10:45.070 --> 01:10:49.370
This is the religion of self, the religion
of Antichrist, God being removed,

01:10:49.850 --> 01:10:54.350
the church sets the standard and educates
coaches, the masses through Christian

01:10:54.350 --> 01:11:00.750
psychology, spiritual directors,
neuro-linguistic programming, caring labs,

01:11:01.230 --> 01:11:03.290
until we have a new spiritual formation.

01:11:03.470 --> 01:11:05.930
There's a summary of where we are headed.

01:11:06.230 --> 01:11:07.590
Now let's see how they did it.

01:11:08.690 --> 01:11:11.950
Step two, create a new morality,
change the direction.

01:11:12.630 --> 01:11:20.730
We have to get now from this nonsense,
this nonsensical existence into a sensible

01:11:20.730 --> 01:11:21.790
existence.

01:11:22.950 --> 01:11:24.250
And who's behind that again?

01:11:24.870 --> 01:11:25.870
The Jesuits.

01:11:25.870 --> 01:11:31.530
And you can look them up, here is Father
Gustavo Gutierrez, and let's learn from

01:11:31.530 --> 01:11:38.110
Catholicism via this man how we must take
a clear stand against social injustice in

01:11:38.110 --> 01:11:41.090
favor of the revolutionary process.

01:11:41.970 --> 01:11:42.150
Aha!

01:11:42.450 --> 01:11:47.550
So we change our religion from worshiping
Jesus, from having a God-centered

01:11:47.550 --> 01:11:52.270
religion, to having a social religion.

01:11:53.670 --> 01:11:58.810
Leonardo Boff, the church must be defined
in terms of energy, charisma, and progress

01:11:58.810 --> 01:11:59.770
of the world.

01:11:59.930 --> 01:12:02.310
So says Richard P. McBride.

01:12:02.450 --> 01:12:03.750
I always like to know, who are these
people?

01:12:04.510 --> 01:12:06.070
McBride, who are you?

01:12:06.230 --> 01:12:09.390
And why do you quote all these Jesuit
people?

01:12:09.470 --> 01:12:10.350
Well, here he is.

01:12:11.150 --> 01:12:11.750
Let's see.

01:12:12.090 --> 01:12:17.050
Richard P. McBride is Crowley O'Brien,
professor of theology at the University of

01:12:17.050 --> 01:12:17.750
Notre Dame.

01:12:17.910 --> 01:12:18.890
Very interesting.

01:12:19.090 --> 01:12:22.530
Past president of the Catholic Theological
Society of America.

01:12:23.110 --> 01:12:23.650
Interesting.

01:12:24.230 --> 01:12:25.310
Distinguished achievements.

01:12:26.130 --> 01:12:27.830
Received the Murray Award.

01:12:28.330 --> 01:12:33.310
And he served as past on-air commentator
on Catholic events on CBS.

01:12:33.550 --> 01:12:34.610
So he's a big man.

01:12:34.890 --> 01:12:35.870
Where was he trained?

01:12:36.290 --> 01:12:39.270
Ooh, the Pontifical Gregorian University
in Rome.

01:12:39.470 --> 01:12:40.950
The Jesuit University.

01:12:41.370 --> 01:12:46.610
Didn't the Pope say, you gentlemen,
you better change the world through these

01:12:46.610 --> 01:12:47.270
institutions?

01:12:48.150 --> 01:12:49.770
Let's see what the man has to say.

01:12:50.450 --> 01:12:54.910
He says, the mission of the church is one
of service to the people, especially the

01:12:54.910 --> 01:12:58.030
poor, the oppressed, and the marginalized.

01:12:58.990 --> 01:13:02.590
Although the structures of authority are
necessary for this mission, those

01:13:02.590 --> 01:13:06.790
structures are always subordinate to it
and are to be judged by their capacity to

01:13:06.790 --> 01:13:08.530
enable the church to fulfill the mission.

01:13:09.190 --> 01:13:09.790
Here we go.

01:13:09.870 --> 01:13:10.870
We've changed our religion.

01:13:11.610 --> 01:13:12.930
We need soup kitchens.

01:13:13.090 --> 01:13:13.650
We need this.

01:13:13.730 --> 01:13:15.250
Is there anything wrong with a soup
kitchen?

01:13:15.250 --> 01:13:16.930
Absolutely not.

01:13:17.370 --> 01:13:19.530
Is there anything wrong in uplifting
someone?

01:13:20.250 --> 01:13:21.230
Absolutely not.

01:13:21.310 --> 01:13:26.270
But if that is your religion, then you
have changed faith for works.

01:13:26.770 --> 01:13:28.050
It must be a consequence.

01:13:28.650 --> 01:13:30.550
And we will see what the difference is.

01:13:31.190 --> 01:13:36.570
He writes, from the feminists comes the
view of the church as an exodus community.

01:13:36.990 --> 01:13:38.870
So here we have feminism.

01:13:39.150 --> 01:13:39.790
That's fine.

01:13:40.130 --> 01:13:44.150
Called to abandon the established social
order and its religious agents of

01:13:44.150 --> 01:13:48.210
sacralization and to witness an
alternative social order.

01:13:48.870 --> 01:13:49.950
Let's change the world.

01:13:50.850 --> 01:13:53.370
He says we must be change agents.

01:13:53.970 --> 01:13:55.690
Servant model for the church.

01:13:56.090 --> 01:14:01.230
Gospel by application of the gospel to the
struggle for social justice, peace,

01:14:01.550 --> 01:14:02.570
human rights.

01:14:03.110 --> 01:14:07.110
Excuse me, is this the gospel of Jesus
Christ, yes or no?

01:14:08.430 --> 01:14:09.590
Definitely not.

01:14:09.870 --> 01:14:10.930
We have a new gospel.

01:14:11.830 --> 01:14:16.050
The church's activities on behalf of
social justice of human rights are not

01:14:16.050 --> 01:14:20.150
merely preparatory to the real mission of
the church as the notion of

01:14:20.150 --> 01:14:22.930
pre-evangelization had it before Vatican
II.

01:14:23.270 --> 01:14:26.990
The church's commitment to and involvement
in the struggle for social justice,

01:14:27.190 --> 01:14:32.430
peace, and human rights is an essential or
constitutive part of its mission.

01:14:32.670 --> 01:14:33.890
This is our job.

01:14:34.690 --> 01:14:36.890
We have to preach social order.

01:14:37.290 --> 01:14:37.650
No.

01:14:38.830 --> 01:14:42.650
We have to preach Jesus Christ and Him
crucified.

01:14:43.550 --> 01:14:47.070
We have to preach salvation by Him and Him
alone.

01:14:47.470 --> 01:14:49.130
We have to preach repentance.

01:14:50.350 --> 01:14:52.470
We have to preach justification.

01:14:52.970 --> 01:14:54.770
We have to preach sanctification.

01:14:55.310 --> 01:14:56.550
This is not the gospel.

01:14:56.710 --> 01:14:57.770
This is a new gospel.

01:14:58.990 --> 01:15:05.610
Matthew says, take heed that you do not
your righteousness before men to be seen

01:15:05.610 --> 01:15:06.150
of them.

01:15:06.910 --> 01:15:09.110
If you want to do good, do it quietly.

01:15:10.110 --> 01:15:13.490
If you want to help someone, then do it
without boasting.

01:15:14.270 --> 01:15:18.670
While they claimed to be very jealous for
the honor of the law, self-glory was the

01:15:18.670 --> 01:15:23.290
real object which they sought and Christ
would make it manifest to them that the

01:15:23.290 --> 01:15:27.250
lover of self is a transgressor of the
law, says this Protestant writer.

01:15:28.130 --> 01:15:30.910
So let's prepare the mind for this new
spirituality.

01:15:31.490 --> 01:15:33.990
And now we're going to get to the
dangerous part.

01:15:34.490 --> 01:15:37.010
I'm giving you the history slowly.

01:15:37.870 --> 01:15:41.270
And when we get to the next lecture we'll
see where we are.

01:15:41.430 --> 01:15:43.510
It's scary where we are.

01:15:44.810 --> 01:15:48.110
Do you know about the spiritual exercises
of Loyola?

01:15:48.750 --> 01:15:51.070
How you achieve spirituality?

01:15:51.610 --> 01:15:54.190
Now remember this was written 400 years
ago.

01:15:55.050 --> 01:15:59.730
And I'm not going to read the whole thing
to you, but I will show you the essence of

01:15:59.730 --> 01:15:59.830
it.

01:15:59.930 --> 01:16:01.830
I've downloaded the whole thing.

01:16:02.230 --> 01:16:05.630
I could talk a whole lecture just on this
issue.

01:16:06.430 --> 01:16:09.730
This is Ignatius Loyola, the founder of
the Jesuit order.

01:16:09.930 --> 01:16:13.250
And remember what Protestants said.

01:16:13.450 --> 01:16:20.670
He fell back upon himself and he found the
means to develop a spirituality,

01:16:20.970 --> 01:16:25.110
not based on faith, but based on self.

01:16:25.550 --> 01:16:30.970
And he writes, the first thing that you
have to do is composition.

01:16:31.730 --> 01:16:35.430
So you go to a little room and you have
composition.

01:16:35.930 --> 01:16:36.950
Seeing the place.

01:16:37.610 --> 01:16:42.530
So if you want to have an experience with
Jesus Christ, then in your mind,

01:16:42.810 --> 01:16:46.890
contemplate the scene, see the place.

01:16:47.710 --> 01:16:52.710
Here it is to be noted, in a visible
contemplation, or meditation, as for

01:16:52.710 --> 01:16:57.530
instance when one contemplates Christ,
the Lord, who is visible, the composition

01:16:57.530 --> 01:17:04.950
will be to see with the sight of the
imagination the corporeal place where the

01:17:04.950 --> 01:17:07.850
thing is found, which I want to
contemplate.

01:17:07.930 --> 01:17:08.930
So this is spirituality.

01:17:09.670 --> 01:17:15.650
I need a quiet little room, I need to
contemplate this issue, I need to see it,

01:17:15.930 --> 01:17:22.290
and eventually it becomes such a reality I
can actually talk to Christ or whoever I

01:17:22.290 --> 01:17:26.330
have visualized, and I can have a
one-to-one conversation.

01:17:28.710 --> 01:17:33.090
Here, we can contemplate in our
meditations, for example, on the sins,

01:17:33.170 --> 01:17:37.050
and the composition we will see with the
sight of the imagination, and consider

01:17:37.050 --> 01:17:43.570
that my soul is imprisoned in this
incorruptible body, and so I have this

01:17:44.170 --> 01:17:44.710
experience.

01:17:45.530 --> 01:17:50.310
Then he says you start everyone with a
particular prayer, it's like a mantra,

01:17:50.430 --> 01:17:53.010
you repeat it over and over and over
again.

01:17:53.010 --> 01:17:58.310
He says the call of the temporal king to
help to contemplate the life of the king

01:17:58.310 --> 01:17:58.750
eternal.

01:17:59.310 --> 01:18:01.110
So now, we have idolatry.

01:18:01.850 --> 01:18:04.990
He says when you want to contemplate
Jesus, that's too difficult.

01:18:05.690 --> 01:18:12.910
Let's take an earthly king, a marvelous
earthly king who is the epitome of Jesus.

01:18:13.070 --> 01:18:14.430
Well, who was he referring to?

01:18:15.970 --> 01:18:16.930
To the Pope!

01:18:18.630 --> 01:18:22.690
He says first you start with the
composition, you see the place again,

01:18:23.070 --> 01:18:30.650
see it with the imagination, and then you
put before me a human king chosen by God.

01:18:31.910 --> 01:18:36.690
Our Lord, whom all Christians,
princes, and men reverence and obey.

01:18:37.190 --> 01:18:37.830
Who's that?

01:18:38.930 --> 01:18:41.090
So I start imagining the Pope.

01:18:41.250 --> 01:18:46.390
Second point, the second is to look how
this king speaks to all the people saying

01:18:46.390 --> 01:18:50.650
it is my will to conquer all the land for
unbelievers therefore whoever would like

01:18:50.650 --> 01:18:56.350
to come with me is to be content to eat as
I, and to drink and to dress as I,

01:18:56.530 --> 01:18:58.090
so I have to become poor.

01:18:58.370 --> 01:19:02.290
Excuse me, I would have to become mega
rich!

01:19:03.210 --> 01:19:07.350
I would have to get myself a mobile and
drive around in it.

01:19:08.850 --> 01:19:14.370
Third point, is to consider what the good
subjects ought to answer such a king.

01:19:15.210 --> 01:19:16.810
Then he talks about penance.

01:19:17.470 --> 01:19:20.890
He says penance must be interior and
exterior.

01:19:21.270 --> 01:19:24.950
It's not enough to go to Jesus and say,
Lord I have sinned, forgive me.

01:19:25.750 --> 01:19:26.870
No, it's got to be exterior.

01:19:27.370 --> 01:19:28.990
I have to chastise myself.

01:19:29.070 --> 01:19:30.450
I have to punish myself.

01:19:30.650 --> 01:19:32.030
How do I punish myself?

01:19:32.470 --> 01:19:35.410
One way is I curtail my eating.

01:19:36.030 --> 01:19:41.170
That is to say when we leave off the
superfluous it's not penance, but

01:19:41.170 --> 01:19:41.710
temperance.

01:19:42.470 --> 01:19:47.730
It is penance when we leave off from the
suitable and the more and more the better.

01:19:49.610 --> 01:19:54.530
So I start eating only what I absolutely
need to stay alive.

01:19:54.890 --> 01:19:57.070
The breadcrumbs and the this.

01:19:57.450 --> 01:20:01.730
And when it comes to sleeping it's not
enough to take off the superfluous.

01:20:02.110 --> 01:20:02.790
No, no, no.

01:20:02.990 --> 01:20:04.390
I don't need the soft things.

01:20:04.570 --> 01:20:05.850
You sleep on the hard floor.

01:20:06.190 --> 01:20:07.930
Preferably put nails under you.

01:20:10.090 --> 01:20:17.770
Now you can see why many of these orders,
the nuns look so emaciated and cold and

01:20:17.770 --> 01:20:22.550
they sleep on hard floors and they're told
what they may eat and nothing may taste

01:20:22.550 --> 01:20:25.790
good because you have to penance yourself.

01:20:26.010 --> 01:20:27.070
It goes further.

01:20:27.490 --> 01:20:29.810
He says you must chastise the flesh.

01:20:30.650 --> 01:20:35.550
That is giving sensible pain which is
given by wearing hair cloth or cords of

01:20:35.550 --> 01:20:40.010
iron chains next to the flesh by scourging
or wounding oneself.

01:20:40.310 --> 01:20:41.650
This is his writing.

01:20:41.850 --> 01:20:43.050
I'm not making this up.

01:20:44.030 --> 01:20:46.470
So you have to beat yourself with whips.

01:20:46.870 --> 01:20:48.230
You have to wear chains.

01:20:48.390 --> 01:20:53.790
So that is why Opus Dei and all these
groups wear pain anklets so that when they

01:20:53.790 --> 01:20:58.050
move they feel stabbing pain to be
reminded of their commitments.

01:20:59.430 --> 01:21:01.030
This is horrendous.

01:21:01.730 --> 01:21:03.890
This is the modern Christianity.

01:21:04.150 --> 01:21:09.130
That's why in the Philippines they enact
this and they beat themselves and they

01:21:09.130 --> 01:21:10.690
crucify themselves.

01:21:10.970 --> 01:21:13.970
This is spiritual exercises of Loyola.

01:21:14.390 --> 01:21:17.330
You have to pay for your sins.

01:21:18.110 --> 01:21:25.290
Faith says my lord died for me on the
cross and paid for my sins for me.

01:21:25.830 --> 01:21:28.430
All I have to do is come in repentance to
him.

01:21:29.130 --> 01:21:31.270
And then you progress.

01:21:31.450 --> 01:21:35.870
Once you've broken yourself down to this
point then you start progressing.

01:21:36.310 --> 01:21:39.090
And then you must praise much the
religious orders.

01:21:39.990 --> 01:21:42.810
So your example is all the religious
orders around.

01:21:43.350 --> 01:21:44.190
Virginity?

01:21:44.710 --> 01:21:46.270
That's marvelous.

01:21:46.810 --> 01:21:47.970
And continence.

01:21:48.810 --> 01:21:50.470
Praise vows of religions.

01:21:50.970 --> 01:21:52.930
Praise relics of the saints.

01:21:53.430 --> 01:21:58.190
So go to the relics and start feeling the
bones and all of these issues.

01:21:58.470 --> 01:22:04.710
And praise constitutions about fasts and
abstinences of Lent, of Ember Days.

01:22:04.710 --> 01:22:09.030
So now we need lots of feast days to fill
our lives.

01:22:09.390 --> 01:22:12.210
Can you see what he's contemplating here?

01:22:13.470 --> 01:22:15.650
Now you think this is 400 years old?

01:22:16.010 --> 01:22:18.570
I have shocking news for you.

01:22:19.090 --> 01:22:24.050
We must understand the exercises of Loyola
if we want to understand the Jesuits.

01:22:24.810 --> 01:22:28.510
To have the true sentiments which we ought
to have in the church militant.

01:22:28.950 --> 01:22:31.390
The first of all judgment laid aside.

01:22:32.230 --> 01:22:36.870
This is Loyola speaking and here is his
picture or his statue as a saint in the

01:22:36.870 --> 01:22:37.210
Vatican.

01:22:37.910 --> 01:22:40.770
First of all, judgment laid aside.

01:22:40.850 --> 01:22:41.950
What did Pope Benedict say?

01:22:42.910 --> 01:22:45.390
You have to be perindee, a cadaver like a
corpse.

01:22:46.290 --> 01:22:50.670
And we ought to have our mind ready and
prompt to obey in all the true spouse of

01:22:50.670 --> 01:22:53.850
Christ our Lord, which our Holy Mother the
Church hierarchial.

01:22:54.670 --> 01:23:02.550
And hold that the white which I see is
black, if the hierarchical church so

01:23:02.550 --> 01:23:03.970
decides it.

01:23:05.070 --> 01:23:07.910
This is the spiritual exercises of Loyola.

01:23:08.310 --> 01:23:12.490
Blind obedience is absolutely essential.

01:23:13.150 --> 01:23:18.470
And this is the famous statement that they
had to obey perindee, a cadaver like a

01:23:18.470 --> 01:23:18.750
corpse.

01:23:19.010 --> 01:23:21.170
You must have no mind of your own.

01:23:22.830 --> 01:23:24.450
Now is this dead?

01:23:25.110 --> 01:23:30.950
Or is this alive and well and destroying
Protestantism today?

01:23:31.910 --> 01:23:34.530
That is the question we must ask
ourselves.

01:23:35.230 --> 01:23:40.070
The spiritual exercises in today's world
has expounded in national Jesuit news.

01:23:40.170 --> 01:23:41.250
Let's go to today.

01:23:42.150 --> 01:23:45.970
The spiritual exercises of Ignatius belong
to the church.

01:23:47.190 --> 01:23:52.470
On their own they involve lay and Jesuit
colleagues in a fruitful way.

01:23:52.730 --> 01:23:59.570
They create spiritual conversation and
community which Americans yearn for.

01:24:01.010 --> 01:24:06.990
They help religious women offer women's
gifts to the church and the world and help

01:24:06.990 --> 01:24:10.070
the laity find their own gifts confirmed
by prayer.

01:24:10.430 --> 01:24:14.870
They offer an assured way to find God
working in all things and a feasible

01:24:14.870 --> 01:24:19.250
project of living contemplative in action.

01:24:19.650 --> 01:24:21.610
Ooh, if you knew what these terms meant.

01:24:22.350 --> 01:24:24.470
Just Christians in the marketplace.

01:24:24.470 --> 01:24:27.950
We have a contemplative Christianity.

01:24:29.330 --> 01:24:35.230
They write Ignatius of Loyola created and
conducted this apostolate for 15 years

01:24:35.230 --> 01:24:36.510
before he was ordained.

01:24:37.290 --> 01:24:42.370
And he says the history that spiritual
exercises are proving an astonishingly

01:24:42.370 --> 01:24:48.090
effective instrument of lay spirituality
even in the post-modern era today.

01:24:48.950 --> 01:24:53.770
They are, please note, this is a Jesuit
organization writing.

01:24:54.550 --> 01:25:04.070
They are being used for and by and with
lay people in many formats all around the

01:25:04.070 --> 01:25:04.730
world.

01:25:05.390 --> 01:25:13.210
And then supply the basis of sophisticated
spiritualities for the marketplace.

01:25:13.870 --> 01:25:15.570
Well, they've got something to sell.

01:25:16.430 --> 01:25:21.350
And it is the road to hell that they have
to sail.

01:25:22.010 --> 01:25:25.930
This is not biblical religion.

01:25:26.590 --> 01:25:31.690
It is safe to say that more people are
going through the one on one directed

01:25:31.690 --> 01:25:36.650
exercises today than at any time in
history.

01:25:37.450 --> 01:25:39.390
It is safe to say something more.

01:25:39.750 --> 01:25:47.490
Spiritual exercises are being used as an
apostolic instrument by better educated

01:25:47.490 --> 01:25:48.450
laity.

01:25:48.450 --> 01:25:53.430
So don't only think that the Jesuits are
in control.

01:25:53.610 --> 01:26:01.470
They have trained an army of hundreds of
thousands of lay people in their

01:26:01.470 --> 01:26:02.210
exercises.

01:26:02.470 --> 01:26:04.350
And how is it going to affect you?

01:26:05.330 --> 01:26:07.690
Here you can find it on their own
webpages.

01:26:07.870 --> 01:26:11.310
Ignatian retreat and spiritual exercises
in our day.

01:26:11.770 --> 01:26:14.450
Here is an eight day Ignatian retreat.

01:26:14.750 --> 01:26:16.270
What more can I say?

01:26:16.270 --> 01:26:21.250
Eight day Ignatian retreat for priests,
religious deacons, lay ministers,

01:26:21.550 --> 01:26:22.830
by so and so.

01:26:22.930 --> 01:26:28.710
Come and discuss here and study the
spiritual exercises and other meditations.

01:26:28.930 --> 01:26:31.790
This book says what more can I do?

01:26:32.350 --> 01:26:36.130
An Ignatian retreat for people somewhere
on the way.

01:26:36.510 --> 01:26:40.610
Helps you explore and pray about what it
means to serve.

01:26:41.450 --> 01:26:42.070
Serve who?

01:26:43.210 --> 01:26:47.430
If you want to download the spiritual
exercises to see if I am making it up,

01:26:47.550 --> 01:26:48.910
go to the Jesuit Review.

01:26:49.090 --> 01:26:50.250
This is their own webpage.

01:26:50.550 --> 01:26:51.790
You can go and check it out.

01:26:52.270 --> 01:26:54.370
And you can download the spiritual
exercises.

01:26:54.550 --> 01:27:00.270
And they quote here, The first instrument
of Jesuit Review offers an introduction to

01:27:00.270 --> 01:27:01.950
the spiritual exercises.

01:27:02.430 --> 01:27:03.390
You think they're dead?

01:27:04.010 --> 01:27:05.550
I'll show you where they are today.

01:27:05.930 --> 01:27:10.730
Tetloff, who is another Jesuit,
writes, Philosophy continues at the heart

01:27:10.730 --> 01:27:12.990
of the Jesuit liberal arts curriculum.

01:27:13.390 --> 01:27:18.250
Because more than any other discipline,
it can provoke the intellectual conversion

01:27:18.250 --> 01:27:22.110
of the conventional thinker to principled
reflection.

01:27:23.930 --> 01:27:24.730
Right.

01:27:25.090 --> 01:27:28.690
With that as background, let's go to our
times.

01:27:29.430 --> 01:27:30.970
You've all heard of the Alpha Course?

01:27:31.710 --> 01:27:36.770
It is touted as probably the greatest
ministerial tool in the history of

01:27:36.770 --> 01:27:37.390
Christianity.

01:27:38.690 --> 01:27:43.270
And we will progress from this humble
beginning to where we will see we are

01:27:43.270 --> 01:27:43.770
today.

01:27:43.890 --> 01:27:45.450
It is scary.

01:27:45.610 --> 01:27:46.830
It is mind boggling.

01:27:47.910 --> 01:27:50.350
The Alpha Course and cell group
philosophy.

01:27:50.650 --> 01:27:56.450
Now let me first, right off the bat,
say there is nothing wrong with small

01:27:56.450 --> 01:27:57.530
group gatherings.

01:27:58.410 --> 01:28:05.330
It is God-given to have small group
gatherings, where people come together to

01:28:05.330 --> 01:28:10.150
study the Word of God and to find meaning
in the Word of God.

01:28:10.510 --> 01:28:11.050
Beautiful.

01:28:11.470 --> 01:28:12.710
The more, the better.

01:28:13.990 --> 01:28:15.490
But this is not Alpha Course.

01:28:16.110 --> 01:28:19.890
This is small group gatherings,
but on a totally different basis.

01:28:20.410 --> 01:28:25.190
And having gone through the spiritual
exercises, let's see if we can find it.

01:28:25.450 --> 01:28:29.810
The founder of the course, as it is
written today, was Nicky Gumbel.

01:28:30.350 --> 01:28:31.290
And here he is.

01:28:31.810 --> 01:28:32.890
Where does it lead us?

01:28:33.630 --> 01:28:37.210
Let's read what the great Alpha webpages
say.

01:28:37.630 --> 01:28:38.630
This is Alpha USA.

01:28:38.970 --> 01:28:39.550
What is Alpha?

01:28:39.670 --> 01:28:43.790
The Alpha Course is a 10-week practical
introduction to Christian faith.

01:28:44.290 --> 01:28:47.930
It gives people an opportunity to explore
big life questions.

01:28:48.530 --> 01:28:50.630
Questions like, is there any point to
life?

01:28:50.730 --> 01:28:51.950
What happens when I die?

01:28:52.150 --> 01:28:55.910
Alpha guests learn how Christianity
answers these questions.

01:28:56.410 --> 01:28:57.570
Alpha Course is for everyone.

01:28:57.750 --> 01:29:00.150
It sparks faith in people outside the
church.

01:29:00.310 --> 01:29:04.730
It kindles the faith of new Christians,
and it fuels the commitment of long-time

01:29:04.730 --> 01:29:05.270
Christians.

01:29:05.390 --> 01:29:06.550
This is the greatest thing ever.

01:29:07.770 --> 01:29:13.810
Alpha guests explore Christianity by
participating in 15 sessions that take

01:29:13.810 --> 01:29:18.350
place in a relaxed, welcoming,
engaging atmosphere.

01:29:19.050 --> 01:29:23.110
Each session explores a particular
question, and then they have all the

01:29:23.110 --> 01:29:23.530
questions.

01:29:23.670 --> 01:29:26.250
They sound nice and innocuous,
no problem.

01:29:26.730 --> 01:29:28.210
Is there more to life than this?

01:29:28.210 --> 01:29:28.990
Who is Jesus?

01:29:29.270 --> 01:29:30.250
Why did he die?

01:29:30.370 --> 01:29:31.410
Who is the Holy Spirit?

01:29:31.410 --> 01:29:33.430
What does the Holy Spirit do?

01:29:33.570 --> 01:29:35.170
How can I be filled with the Spirit?

01:29:35.310 --> 01:29:37.650
How can I make the most of the rest of my
life?

01:29:37.730 --> 01:29:38.290
Sounds nice.

01:29:38.690 --> 01:29:39.570
No problem.

01:29:40.190 --> 01:29:41.810
Nobody should be concerned.

01:29:42.770 --> 01:29:46.690
The Power of Alpha by Rebecca Barnes,
reprinted with permission.

01:29:47.250 --> 01:29:51.710
Since coming to the United States in 1996,
the same year the Bishop of London

01:29:51.710 --> 01:29:56.290
appointed Gumbel Alpha Chaplain,
Alpha has grown exponentially.

01:29:57.490 --> 01:29:58.650
The number of U.S.

01:29:58.830 --> 01:30:05.230
churches hosting the courses has increased
from 200 the first year to more than 7,500

01:30:05.230 --> 01:30:09.590
in 2005, and then they talk about how
magnificent it is.

01:30:10.250 --> 01:30:15.830
And in May 2004, former Vineyard USA
National Director, Todd Hunter,

01:30:16.010 --> 01:30:21.010
joined Alpha as its president,
excited about the marriage of spiritual

01:30:21.010 --> 01:30:25.910
formation and evangelism that Alpha
brings.

01:30:26.410 --> 01:30:29.170
Two terms we will have to come to grips
with.

01:30:29.930 --> 01:30:35.030
He says in his blog, he calls the Alpha
course the most holistic approach to

01:30:35.030 --> 01:30:38.410
evangelization available in local
churches.

01:30:38.850 --> 01:30:40.950
Now let's see what Mickey Gumbel says.

01:30:41.590 --> 01:30:46.930
He says, the differences between
Protestants and Catholics are totally

01:30:46.930 --> 01:30:51.030
insignificant compared to the things that
unite us.

01:30:51.370 --> 01:30:55.670
We need to unite around the death of
Jesus, the resurrection of Jesus,

01:30:55.870 --> 01:30:59.570
the absolute essential things at the core
of the Christian faith.

01:30:59.610 --> 01:31:00.610
Who said that before?

01:31:02.570 --> 01:31:04.150
Vatican II said that.

01:31:04.330 --> 01:31:06.470
This is a Vatican II philosophy.

01:31:07.170 --> 01:31:11.310
We need to give people liberty to disagree
on the things which are secondary.

01:31:12.070 --> 01:31:18.230
We make it a rule, he writes, Alpha,
never to criticize another denomination,

01:31:18.470 --> 01:31:20.570
another Christian church, or a Christian
leader.

01:31:20.950 --> 01:31:22.290
No criticism allowed.

01:31:23.090 --> 01:31:29.490
Catholic Bishop says, Ambrose says,
Alpha is a powerful evangelistic tool.

01:31:29.630 --> 01:31:32.850
It doesn't contain anything that is
contrary to Catholic doctrine.

01:31:33.330 --> 01:31:33.850
Fascinating.

01:31:35.350 --> 01:31:36.270
Did he meet the Pope?

01:31:36.410 --> 01:31:38.170
Yes, there he is with the Pope.

01:31:38.370 --> 01:31:43.930
It was a great honor to be presented to
Pope John Paul, who has done so much to

01:31:43.930 --> 01:31:45.830
promote evangelization around the world.

01:31:45.950 --> 01:31:49.870
What unites us is infinitely greater than
what divides us.

01:31:50.670 --> 01:31:56.890
And he has admitted that certain sections
were particularly written so as to

01:31:56.890 --> 01:31:59.070
incorporate Catholicism.

01:31:59.270 --> 01:32:04.230
So this is an ecumenical tool to unite
with Christianity.

01:32:05.030 --> 01:32:11.230
Now Alpha News, which is their great news
magazine, tells us some interesting

01:32:11.230 --> 01:32:11.730
things.

01:32:11.830 --> 01:32:15.410
The Holy Spirit is mediated through the
hands of the leaders.

01:32:16.130 --> 01:32:21.350
So in Alpha, one of the aims is to be led
to this spirit experience.

01:32:22.030 --> 01:32:27.010
It makes the reception of the Holy Spirit
and outward manifestations the mark of the

01:32:27.010 --> 01:32:27.370
faith.

01:32:28.050 --> 01:32:32.530
The published testimonies come out of
Alpha nearly always concentrate on the

01:32:32.530 --> 01:32:34.130
Holy Spirit experience.

01:32:34.470 --> 01:32:38.690
So it leads us to this marvelous
experiential religion.

01:32:39.670 --> 01:32:45.010
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of Truth,
is come, says John 16, 13-14, he will

01:32:45.010 --> 01:32:51.610
guide us into all truth, and he shall not
speak of himself, but whatever ye shall

01:32:51.610 --> 01:32:55.230
hear, that ye shall speak, and he will
show you things to come.

01:32:55.450 --> 01:33:02.010
He shall glorify me, says Jesus,
for he shall receive of mine and shall

01:33:02.010 --> 01:33:04.150
show it unto you.

01:33:04.730 --> 01:33:06.490
So what is the aim of the Holy Spirit?

01:33:07.490 --> 01:33:09.090
To glorify Christ.

01:33:09.750 --> 01:33:12.110
To enable us to spread the gospel.

01:33:12.450 --> 01:33:15.450
Not to have an experience, it's not
biblical.

01:33:17.850 --> 01:33:19.530
Now let me tell you about cell groups.

01:33:20.870 --> 01:33:25.450
Cell groups like the Alpha Course,
cell group, also fall under a coach,

01:33:25.910 --> 01:33:30.070
or a spiritual director, just like
Ignatius Loyola's story.

01:33:30.690 --> 01:33:34.770
They are designed to bring people to
consensus theology, no argument is

01:33:34.770 --> 01:33:41.890
allowed, celebration liturgy, and to
sacrificing of individual norms to group

01:33:41.890 --> 01:33:44.130
norms and dynamics using peer pressure.

01:33:44.290 --> 01:33:44.950
Let's have a look.

01:33:45.690 --> 01:33:50.790
I'm taking these quotes from the manual to
the Protestant churches.

01:33:51.050 --> 01:33:54.910
These are mainline Protestant churches
teaching the Alpha Course.

01:33:55.210 --> 01:33:58.650
And I'm going to quote from them,
directly from their manual.

01:33:59.490 --> 01:34:00.130
Here we go.

01:34:00.350 --> 01:34:06.430
A cell group has a host, a leader,
a Timothy, and a participant.

01:34:07.550 --> 01:34:13.670
A cell group caters for pastoral care,
individual need, and has a specific

01:34:13.670 --> 01:34:16.210
structure and duration.

01:34:16.530 --> 01:34:18.410
It's very controlled.

01:34:18.930 --> 01:34:25.150
It's not a group of people coming together
to discuss the Bible, or to talk about

01:34:25.150 --> 01:34:27.730
prophecy and see what the Bible has to
say.

01:34:28.390 --> 01:34:31.090
It forms the bridge between the people and
the church.

01:34:31.210 --> 01:34:36.650
Every group member is evangelized,
consolidated, built up as a disciple,

01:34:37.070 --> 01:34:37.590
and sent.

01:34:38.490 --> 01:34:43.650
Duration of a session is one hour,
starts with an introduction, praise,

01:34:43.850 --> 01:34:46.870
prayer, subject, application, final
activities.

01:34:47.910 --> 01:34:50.670
Deviation from the format is not
permitted.

01:34:51.030 --> 01:34:54.790
I'm quoting directly from the handbook to
the Protestant churches.

01:34:54.970 --> 01:34:55.350
Please note.

01:34:56.270 --> 01:34:59.610
Also members are not permitted to change
cell groups.

01:35:00.310 --> 01:35:01.630
You will remain in this one.

01:35:02.790 --> 01:35:05.970
And murmuring and criticism is not
permitted.

01:35:05.970 --> 01:35:10.670
Unity of thought, feelings, and commitment
are sought.

01:35:11.270 --> 01:35:15.630
The disciples in the cell vision cannot
operate independently of their leader.

01:35:16.410 --> 01:35:18.410
Unity is the symbol of maturity.

01:35:19.210 --> 01:35:24.230
So you will stay in your group,
you will have consensus theology,

01:35:24.650 --> 01:35:31.630
you may not murmur, you may not find
fault, seek error, and you will be

01:35:31.630 --> 01:35:32.690
submissive.

01:35:32.990 --> 01:35:35.990
We will have consensus theology at the
end.

01:35:36.430 --> 01:35:41.210
Anything that is shaky, we will discard.

01:35:41.670 --> 01:35:43.030
You may not talk about it.

01:35:43.270 --> 01:35:44.650
This is about unity.

01:35:46.450 --> 01:35:47.610
Models for success.

01:35:48.550 --> 01:35:50.550
Declare that success is yours.

01:35:51.350 --> 01:35:54.090
This is nothing else than the power of
positive thinking.

01:35:55.030 --> 01:35:58.730
Persevere, dream, and visualize.

01:35:59.790 --> 01:36:00.090
Oh!

01:36:00.930 --> 01:36:01.950
Let's see how they work.

01:36:02.730 --> 01:36:06.370
Obedience and respect for leadership is
essential.

01:36:08.150 --> 01:36:09.930
How is an Ignatian retreat?

01:36:10.110 --> 01:36:11.130
Per indere cadaver.

01:36:11.670 --> 01:36:18.630
Even if your leader turns out to be a dog,
you will obey him without question,

01:36:18.830 --> 01:36:19.430
said Loyola.

01:36:20.670 --> 01:36:27.210
The leader will seek counsel of his or her
trained superiors in the church,

01:36:27.790 --> 01:36:30.730
and the trust of his or her disciples.

01:36:31.390 --> 01:36:38.610
Moreover, the disciples must be encouraged
to confide in the leader regarding their

01:36:38.610 --> 01:36:39.210
problems.

01:36:41.190 --> 01:36:42.570
Excuse me.

01:36:43.690 --> 01:36:44.910
What do we have here?

01:36:45.130 --> 01:36:47.330
This is Roman Catholicism at its best.

01:36:47.630 --> 01:36:49.510
The leader takes the place of a priest.

01:36:50.470 --> 01:36:52.510
He becomes the father confessor.

01:36:52.930 --> 01:36:53.770
He's absolute.

01:36:54.170 --> 01:36:55.750
You may not question him.

01:36:56.090 --> 01:37:00.030
And he gets his counsel where he is
trained.

01:37:00.290 --> 01:37:04.030
And you are trained in specific schools of
training.

01:37:05.950 --> 01:37:06.550
Fascinating.

01:37:06.770 --> 01:37:07.610
Let's continue.

01:37:09.230 --> 01:37:11.390
We have a twelve around one model.

01:37:11.510 --> 01:37:12.910
Please, what am I quoting for?

01:37:12.970 --> 01:37:14.970
I just want to remind you, I'm not making
this up.

01:37:15.050 --> 01:37:16.230
Where am I quoting this from?

01:37:16.710 --> 01:37:19.210
From the handbook to the Protestant
churches.

01:37:21.110 --> 01:37:25.690
Jesus took three and a half years to train
the twelve, and so cell groups used the

01:37:25.690 --> 01:37:27.210
twelve around one concept.

01:37:28.150 --> 01:37:30.790
Jesus did not choose thirteen,
but twelve.

01:37:31.430 --> 01:37:35.850
With teams of twelve, we commence to
restore the altar of God in the world.

01:37:36.910 --> 01:37:37.750
Excuse me.

01:37:39.110 --> 01:37:41.530
The secret is in the twelve.

01:37:42.450 --> 01:37:46.190
The model of twelve has always been in
God's heart, and the number symbolizes

01:37:46.190 --> 01:37:47.890
government and authority.

01:37:49.090 --> 01:37:51.210
So now we have numerism.

01:37:52.170 --> 01:37:57.910
So, it becomes a cult, because if you
don't have this twelve, well then you must

01:37:57.910 --> 01:37:58.610
try and improve.

01:37:58.690 --> 01:38:00.130
Always try to get to the twelve.

01:38:00.190 --> 01:38:04.070
You can work without the twelve,
but that's the model and the aim.

01:38:04.730 --> 01:38:06.710
So the number becomes important.

01:38:07.790 --> 01:38:13.450
By the way, if you have twelve around one,
then the spiritual guide takes the place

01:38:13.450 --> 01:38:13.830
of whom?

01:38:14.710 --> 01:38:16.030
Takes the place of Christ.

01:38:16.090 --> 01:38:17.370
He becomes an altar Christ.

01:38:18.150 --> 01:38:23.550
And did Christ send only out twelve,
or did he send out seventy, or any number?

01:38:24.970 --> 01:38:27.210
Here's the government of twelve
definition.

01:38:28.170 --> 01:38:28.750
Comes from there.

01:38:28.810 --> 01:38:31.350
I put down the page even, so that people
can see it.

01:38:31.730 --> 01:38:38.110
A revolutionary leadership model that
consists of the leader who chooses twelve

01:38:38.110 --> 01:38:38.690
people.

01:38:38.790 --> 01:38:40.470
Now please note what is being said here.

01:38:40.510 --> 01:38:41.250
This is incredible.

01:38:41.930 --> 01:38:48.630
Who chooses twelve people so that his or
her character and authority can be

01:38:48.630 --> 01:38:52.750
reproduced in them so that the vision of
the church can be developed?

01:38:54.270 --> 01:38:55.030
Ah!

01:38:56.430 --> 01:39:02.650
So if you are a cell group member,
the highest you can rise is to the level

01:39:02.650 --> 01:39:04.010
of your spiritual leader.

01:39:05.030 --> 01:39:07.810
God forbid that we should aim that low.

01:39:09.530 --> 01:39:16.150
Why not make Christ your model and have
infinity to strive for?

01:39:18.050 --> 01:39:19.930
Sorry, let me rephrase that.

01:39:20.150 --> 01:39:21.390
To be uplifted to.

01:39:24.170 --> 01:39:25.770
Now let me show you something else.

01:39:25.910 --> 01:39:28.630
Here is the webpage of the Rosicrucian
Order.

01:39:29.190 --> 01:39:31.650
Probably one of the most occult orders in
the world.

01:39:31.730 --> 01:39:33.310
The Rosicrucian Fellowship.

01:39:33.830 --> 01:39:38.250
Like all the other mystery orders,
the order of Rosicrucians is formed on

01:39:38.250 --> 01:39:39.350
cosmic lines.

01:39:40.170 --> 01:39:45.390
If we take balls of even size and try to,
how many it will take to cover one and

01:39:45.390 --> 01:39:49.070
hide it from you, we shall find that it
will require twelve.

01:39:49.290 --> 01:39:50.590
We don't have to read it all.

01:39:51.130 --> 01:39:55.110
It says, there were twelve apostles that
clustered around Christ.

01:39:55.710 --> 01:39:58.470
There are other examples of this grouping
of twelve and one.

01:39:58.570 --> 01:40:03.610
The Rosicrucian Order therefore also
composed of twelve brothers and a

01:40:03.610 --> 01:40:04.110
thirteenth.

01:40:06.550 --> 01:40:09.650
Satan wants to be like the most high.

01:40:10.830 --> 01:40:20.150
And Jesus had twelve tribes of Israel and
he had twelve apostles and he was the

01:40:20.150 --> 01:40:24.130
centrality, the old passing over to the
new.

01:40:24.450 --> 01:40:28.510
Satan wants to be like the most high,
but he makes it knuckle too.

01:40:30.050 --> 01:40:35.730
We don't need a specific structure in
order to worship Christ.

01:40:36.110 --> 01:40:38.910
The Bible says where how many come
together?

01:40:40.050 --> 01:40:41.810
Two or three come together.

01:40:42.110 --> 01:40:44.110
In my name I will be there.

01:40:44.370 --> 01:40:49.430
I don't have to have an occult number in
order to conjure the spirit.

01:40:50.190 --> 01:40:51.230
This is nonsense.

01:40:52.510 --> 01:40:58.190
In the section on intercession we read
intercession is necessary to confirm the

01:40:58.190 --> 01:41:05.670
team of twelve, to satisfy the need of the
group of twelve, to enjoy protection from

01:41:05.670 --> 01:41:10.810
evil, to attain sanctification,
to build and maintain like-mindedness,

01:41:10.830 --> 01:41:16.410
to raise up the disciples to the same
level of servitude as their mentors.

01:41:16.890 --> 01:41:17.750
Good grief.

01:41:18.870 --> 01:41:21.050
Who's left out of this equation here?

01:41:22.490 --> 01:41:24.570
Jesus Christ is left out.

01:41:25.690 --> 01:41:32.510
A mentor is described as someone with a
priestly commission who is merciful and

01:41:32.510 --> 01:41:34.710
sympathetic and approved and holy.

01:41:34.710 --> 01:41:38.650
So now you must look upon him as holy and
approved.

01:41:39.450 --> 01:41:43.190
Texts quoted include passages from the
Gospel of John, etc., etc.

01:41:43.270 --> 01:41:45.450
This is Ignatian spirituality.

01:41:46.130 --> 01:41:52.230
It's based on Jesuit principles and it's
in virtually every Protestant church in

01:41:52.230 --> 01:41:52.590
the world.

01:41:54.490 --> 01:41:58.790
1 Corinthians 14, I thank my God I speak
with tongues more than all of you.

01:41:59.070 --> 01:42:00.610
They say what we need.

01:42:01.310 --> 01:42:02.610
It's positive ethics.

01:42:02.610 --> 01:42:08.190
They lay a lot of claim on healing,
prophecy, power, miracles, tongues.

01:42:08.550 --> 01:42:11.750
This is the manifestation that they seek.

01:42:12.690 --> 01:42:14.470
What did Martin Luther say about this?

01:42:15.390 --> 01:42:18.030
The true way to Christianity is this.

01:42:18.990 --> 01:42:20.190
I like this man.

01:42:20.250 --> 01:42:20.590
You know that?

01:42:21.170 --> 01:42:22.190
I like this man.

01:42:23.010 --> 01:42:27.510
The true way to Christianity is this,
that a man do first acknowledge himself by

01:42:27.510 --> 01:42:28.490
the Lord to be a sinner.

01:42:29.790 --> 01:42:36.430
There's no mentioning of sin in all those
writings.

01:42:37.130 --> 01:42:39.510
This is a totally new Gospel that they
have.

01:42:39.590 --> 01:42:42.270
Martin Luther says the first thing is you
have to acknowledge you're a sinner.

01:42:43.190 --> 01:42:46.070
And that it is impossible for him to do
any good work.

01:42:46.150 --> 01:42:49.930
For the law says thou art an evil tree and
therefore all that thou thinkest,

01:42:50.070 --> 01:42:51.770
speakest, or doest is against God.

01:42:51.990 --> 01:42:52.710
And he quotes Matthew.

01:42:53.870 --> 01:42:57.130
For whosoever is not of faith,
whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

01:42:57.670 --> 01:43:03.030
When a man is thus taught and instructed
by the law, then is he terrified and

01:43:03.030 --> 01:43:03.410
humbled.

01:43:03.550 --> 01:43:08.650
Then he sees indeed the greatness of his
sin, cannot find in himself one spark of

01:43:08.650 --> 01:43:09.390
the love of God.

01:43:09.910 --> 01:43:14.790
Therefore he justifies God in his word and
confesses that he is guilty of death and

01:43:14.790 --> 01:43:15.790
eternal damnation.

01:43:16.170 --> 01:43:21.050
The first part then of Christianity is the
preaching of repentance and the knowledge

01:43:21.050 --> 01:43:21.790
of ourselves.

01:43:23.090 --> 01:43:23.690
Boom!

01:43:23.690 --> 01:43:26.270
Exact opposite of the Alpha Course.

01:43:26.270 --> 01:43:34.510
What they want when they study the Bible
together is ISOGESIS and not EXOGESIS.

01:43:34.770 --> 01:43:40.750
EXOGESIS is determining what is the Bible
trying to tell me, what is God trying to

01:43:40.750 --> 01:43:41.130
tell me.

01:43:41.290 --> 01:43:44.050
ISOGESIS is what do I think God is saying.

01:43:44.790 --> 01:43:45.930
There's a big difference.

01:43:47.210 --> 01:43:53.190
That's why today we have modern
translations which are dynamic equivalent

01:43:53.190 --> 01:43:54.270
translations.

01:43:56.050 --> 01:44:04.210
That means that some theologian has
predigested for me what he thinks God is

01:44:04.210 --> 01:44:04.610
saying.

01:44:05.430 --> 01:44:09.230
Excuse me, don't I have a mind of my own
to find out what God is saying?

01:44:12.350 --> 01:44:17.010
Ignatius, this is a professor of the
University of Bonn talking about the

01:44:17.010 --> 01:44:17.410
Jesuits.

01:44:17.570 --> 01:44:22.030
Ignatius understood more than any other
leader of men who preceded him that the

01:44:22.030 --> 01:44:27.530
best way to raise a man to a certain ideal
is to become master of his imagination.

01:44:29.050 --> 01:44:35.550
We imbue into him spiritual forces which
he would find very difficult to eliminate

01:44:35.550 --> 01:44:36.250
later.

01:44:37.010 --> 01:44:40.270
Forces more lasting than all the best
principles and doctrines.

01:44:40.690 --> 01:44:45.150
These forces can come up again to the
surface sometimes after years of not even

01:44:45.150 --> 01:44:45.870
mentioning them.

01:44:46.570 --> 01:44:53.290
It's a form of hypnosis and becomes so
imperative that the will finds itself

01:44:53.290 --> 01:45:00.330
unable to oppose any obstacle and has to
follow their irresistible impulse.

01:45:00.410 --> 01:45:01.170
This is hypnosis.

01:45:01.890 --> 01:45:03.430
This is not Christianity.

01:45:05.230 --> 01:45:08.950
Ignatius was influenced by what is called
the golden legend.

01:45:10.090 --> 01:45:14.030
It was especially attracted by the
extraordinary feats of penance performed

01:45:14.030 --> 01:45:19.490
by the Egyptian monks who beat themselves
and chastised themselves until eventually

01:45:19.490 --> 01:45:21.170
they had these experiences.

01:45:22.330 --> 01:45:27.610
The basis of spiritual exercises is
pictorial imagining in which one brings

01:45:27.610 --> 01:45:30.770
every sense under the impact of the
imagination.

01:45:31.630 --> 01:45:35.690
An exercise called composition seeing the
place.

01:45:36.610 --> 01:45:40.370
The imagination is closed with visible
form, the object is fixed and the

01:45:40.370 --> 01:45:41.970
imagination becomes reality.

01:45:42.710 --> 01:45:45.970
Today we call this exercise visualization.

01:45:45.970 --> 01:45:48.530
It's practiced at school level.

01:45:48.750 --> 01:45:51.250
The little children in schools are taught
it.

01:45:51.390 --> 01:45:53.130
It's part of the new curriculums.

01:45:53.510 --> 01:45:56.450
The Jesuits have it all under control.

01:45:56.990 --> 01:46:00.030
It's practiced from primary to tertiary
education.

01:46:00.210 --> 01:46:01.170
It's a disaster.

01:46:02.470 --> 01:46:06.610
Moral judgment becomes suspended and you
live in this euphoria.

01:46:07.650 --> 01:46:09.810
Now a Jesuit retreat lasts four weeks.

01:46:09.930 --> 01:46:13.650
They are run by a retreat master or a
guide or a coach.

01:46:13.650 --> 01:46:18.410
What do they call these people when we are
educated by them in Protestant churches?

01:46:19.190 --> 01:46:20.990
We call them guides.

01:46:21.150 --> 01:46:22.290
We call them coach.

01:46:22.570 --> 01:46:24.650
We call them retreat masters.

01:46:24.890 --> 01:46:26.110
They don't even hide it.

01:46:26.930 --> 01:46:31.810
Only the director who has grasped the mind
and the heart of the Ignatian spirituality

01:46:31.810 --> 01:46:37.230
which is distinguished service to Christ
can fulfill his task of adapting the

01:46:37.230 --> 01:46:42.630
exercises to the precise needs of the
individual or group to whom he is

01:46:42.630 --> 01:46:43.170
speaking.

01:46:44.570 --> 01:46:45.090
Fascinating!

01:46:45.930 --> 01:46:50.490
An experienced retreat martyr who knows
the exercises well will make numerous

01:46:50.490 --> 01:46:55.110
little adjustments in his approaches to
the meditation to fit the education,

01:46:55.370 --> 01:46:58.990
temperament, role, age bracket and
interest of the audience.

01:46:59.110 --> 01:47:00.150
So they are not all the same.

01:47:01.670 --> 01:47:07.170
Listen to what this ex priest,
new age priest has to say, Will Barron.

01:47:07.250 --> 01:47:10.750
He says, this ritual was very deceptive.

01:47:11.030 --> 01:47:15.510
The average Christian would probably find
nothing seriously objectionable about the

01:47:15.510 --> 01:47:16.350
phrases used.

01:47:16.430 --> 01:47:20.330
Yet this meditation procedure was a
product of Satan.

01:47:21.090 --> 01:47:25.750
Designed to lead people into accepting the
voice of masquerading demons as being the

01:47:25.750 --> 01:47:26.830
voice of the Holy Spirit.

01:47:27.450 --> 01:47:32.550
Some of these people, we've read it in the
newspapers, suddenly heard voices and

01:47:32.550 --> 01:47:35.310
these voices started telling them,
those are the enemies of Christ.

01:47:35.450 --> 01:47:36.090
Go and kill them.

01:47:37.190 --> 01:47:39.330
And then they go and do these things.

01:47:39.770 --> 01:47:43.070
You will get what you are trying to
experience.

01:47:43.430 --> 01:47:47.290
Now listen to what the protestant magazine
Christianity today has to say.

01:47:47.510 --> 01:47:49.310
This was Billy Graham's magazine.

01:47:50.630 --> 01:47:56.090
It says, spiritual direction is one of the
classical Christian disciplines that

01:47:56.090 --> 01:48:02.170
people from a wide variety of protestant
catholic and orthodox backgrounds are

01:48:02.170 --> 01:48:08.310
examining and recommending a new spiritual
direction as practiced today, especially

01:48:08.310 --> 01:48:12.750
in the Roman Catholic Church, owes its
greatest debt to the founder of the

01:48:12.750 --> 01:48:13.810
Society of Jesus.

01:48:14.250 --> 01:48:15.170
They know it.

01:48:16.050 --> 01:48:18.610
They know it and they introduce it.

01:48:18.710 --> 01:48:24.810
There is no doubt that this is a counter
reformation led by the Jesuit order.

01:48:25.370 --> 01:48:30.370
The article continues that Loyola's
retreats focused on sin and its

01:48:30.370 --> 01:48:34.770
consequences in the lives of participants,
the life of Christ, the guidelines to deal

01:48:34.770 --> 01:48:39.530
with temptation of the devil, the passion,
the resurrection, all of these nice

01:48:39.530 --> 01:48:40.190
themes.

01:48:41.910 --> 01:48:44.290
Now what does the Bible say about
spiritual directors?

01:48:46.150 --> 01:48:51.990
Micah 7 says, trust ye not in a friend,
put not confidence in a guide,

01:48:52.370 --> 01:48:56.030
keep the doors of thy mouth from her that
lieth in thy bosom.

01:48:56.370 --> 01:49:02.570
Not even the one you love is allowed to
dictate to you in your spirituality.

01:49:03.350 --> 01:49:03.930
No one.

01:49:04.730 --> 01:49:08.490
This is a relationship that you have with
Jesus Christ and him alone.

01:49:09.010 --> 01:49:16.830
Martin Luther says, the spirit is nowhere
more present and alive than in his own

01:49:16.830 --> 01:49:17.850
sacred writings.

01:49:18.350 --> 01:49:22.930
We must let the scriptures have the chief
place and be its own truest, simplest and

01:49:22.930 --> 01:49:23.930
clearest interpreter.

01:49:24.170 --> 01:49:30.050
I want scripture alone to rule and not to
be interpreted according to my spirit or

01:49:30.050 --> 01:49:36.890
that of any other man, but to be
understood in its own light, per sepsum

01:49:36.890 --> 01:49:39.210
and according to its own spirit.

01:49:39.390 --> 01:49:43.410
I don't need a spiritual guide to tell me
what to believe.

01:49:43.570 --> 01:49:44.810
I need the word of God.

01:49:45.850 --> 01:49:47.210
That's what he said.

01:49:47.590 --> 01:49:48.590
But not today.

01:49:49.110 --> 01:49:50.590
We need spiritual directors.

01:49:50.830 --> 01:49:51.550
We need coaches.

01:49:51.850 --> 01:50:01.470
We need to experience exercises This
writer says, let all be educated to search

01:50:01.470 --> 01:50:08.110
the scriptures, to be constantly looking
unto Jesus and not to human agents to be

01:50:08.110 --> 01:50:08.730
their guide.

01:50:08.890 --> 01:50:11.450
The word of God is to be the man of our
counsel.

01:50:11.950 --> 01:50:13.050
The word is infinite.

01:50:13.270 --> 01:50:15.910
Obeyed, it will guide us into safe and
sure paths.

01:50:15.970 --> 01:50:21.190
But the word diluted with human devices
and imaginings is not a safe guide.

01:50:21.530 --> 01:50:24.570
Exactly the same as Martin Luther said.

01:50:25.670 --> 01:50:28.630
God wants to do something for each one of
us.

01:50:29.030 --> 01:50:31.910
This work is an individual work.

01:50:31.990 --> 01:50:32.470
Please note.

01:50:33.290 --> 01:50:34.490
A personal work.

01:50:34.790 --> 01:50:39.790
Students, do not depend on your teachers
to form your character.

01:50:40.270 --> 01:50:43.450
For Christ's sake, make your characters
individually.

01:50:44.550 --> 01:50:48.890
Take hold of God and do not think that you
have to be always with your teacher in

01:50:48.890 --> 01:50:50.350
order to be solid workers.

01:50:50.710 --> 01:50:55.530
We are to represent God to the world,
to show what the truth has done for us

01:50:55.530 --> 01:50:56.570
right on this ground.

01:50:56.650 --> 01:50:58.790
We want to see the moving of the Holy
Spirit.

01:50:59.270 --> 01:51:03.350
You will remember that the Holy Spirit so
worked in the schools of the prophets that

01:51:03.350 --> 01:51:07.850
when Saul hunting for David came in
connection with one of these schools,

01:51:07.970 --> 01:51:09.930
the Spirit came upon him and he
prophesied.

01:51:10.070 --> 01:51:14.050
But we need something more lasting than
Saul had.

01:51:14.270 --> 01:51:15.170
Take hold of God.

01:51:15.510 --> 01:51:19.030
You have little enough time in which to
form characters fit for the future.

01:51:19.990 --> 01:51:24.190
Exodus says you shall not follow a
multitude to do evil, neither shall you

01:51:24.190 --> 01:51:27.930
speak in a cause to decline of the many to
rest judgment.

01:51:29.290 --> 01:51:33.550
Luther said, according to the great
controversy, the influence of this one man

01:51:33.550 --> 01:51:38.130
who dared to think and act for himself in
religious matter was to affect the church

01:51:38.130 --> 01:51:42.510
and the world not only in his own time,
but in all future generations.

01:51:42.730 --> 01:51:43.610
Here's one man.

01:51:44.250 --> 01:51:48.370
He decided I'm going to stick to the word,
I don't care what the Pope says,

01:51:48.430 --> 01:51:52.790
I don't care what the Archbishop says,
I want to know what does the word say.

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Please don't misunderstand me.

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Am I saying don't seek the counsel of
religious learned men?

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Am I saying that?

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I'm not saying that.

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In the counsel of many there is wisdom.

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But don't let anyone dictate to you what
you must believe.

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That's what I'm saying.

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And let alone try to reach the level of
your spiritual guide and confess to him

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all that you have done.

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Confess your sins to Jesus, and if you
have hurt someone, go and say sorry to him

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irrespective of if there's a coach or a
spiritual guide hiding in the woodwork.

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Matthew 23, 8-10 But be not called rabbi,
for one is your master, even Christ,

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and all ye are brethren, and call no man
your father upon this earth, for one is

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your father which is in heaven,
neither ye be called masters, for one is

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your master, even Christ.

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Is what I'm saying biblical?

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Master?

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Catechist?

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A guide?

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That is a teacher, a master.

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I don't need one of them to tell me what
to believe.

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That doesn't mean I cannot study what they
have said and compare it with the word of

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God.

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By these words Christ meant that no man is
to place his spiritual interests under

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another's.

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A child is guided and directed by an
earthly father.

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This has encouraged a spirit of desire for
ecclesiastical superiority, which has

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always resulted in the injury of men who
have trusted and addressed as father.

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It confuses the sense of the sacredness of
the prerogatives of God.

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Spot on!

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As an earlier age, the special truths for
this time are found not with the

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ecclesiastical authorities but with men
and women who are not too learned or too

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wise to believe the word of God.

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If you want confusion in the world then
believe every theologian out there.

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They differ as far as the east is from the
west.

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Take any aspect.

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Take baptism.

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You have churches that baptize adults.

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Some of them sprinkle them, some of them
pour little water over them.

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You have people that baptize them seven
times.

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You have people that dump them three
times.

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You have people that say only infants must
be baptized.

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The list is endless.

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And it's thought up by the theologians.

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I have nothing against godly theologians.

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And I enjoy reading their writings and
studying it and comparing it with the word

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of God.

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We can be led by godly men, but that
doesn't mean that these people are to be

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your guide and certainly not your pope.

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Our great weakness is in placing men where
god should be to be looked up and confided

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in.

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I don't believe we need any of these fixed
structures.

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I believe in small groups.

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I believe in coming together and studying
the bible and praying together and seeking

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counsel from the lord.

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And I believe in asking counsel of learned
men who have studied these things more

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than I have.

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Yes, but I believe in the paramount
superiority of the word of god.

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And every single thing must be tested by
that word.

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Psalms 32 verse 8, I will instruct thee
and teach thee in the way which thou shalt

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go.

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I will guide thee with mine eye.

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God wants a personal relationship with you
and me.

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The gospel is not about things.

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The gospel is not about rituals.

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The gospel is not about magic formulas and
magic numbers.

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The gospel is not about chastisement to
see greater light.

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The gospel is a relationship.

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And god has put men and women on this
earth and marriage as an example of that

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relationship.

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God forbid if I would have to whip myself
daily to get the attention of my wife.

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Wouldn't that be pathetic?

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Isaiah 48 17, thus says the lord thy
redeemer, the holy one of Israel,

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I am the lord thy god which teaches thee
to profit, which leadeth thee by the way

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that thou shouldst go.

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Trust in the lord your god, trust in his
word, and no one needs to be lost.

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May god help us as we further study the
inroads of spiritual exercises to take the

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place of faith.

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It's going to become very serious.

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Thank you.