Do you enjoy the work of getting out into the ends of the earth with your message?
Yes, definitely.
What I really enjoy, and I do rejoice in the Lord, is preaching the gospel.
That is what I was chosen for and called to do, and that is the greatest thrill of
my life, is preaching the gospel, because it was the preaching of the gospel
that brought me freedom in Christ.
Oh, yes.
You came into pure New Testament Christianity.
And I believe that you've come to the conclusion...
You know, when we look in the book of Revelation, last week we spoke of the 12th
chapter, the woman who was clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet.
And upon her head a crown of 12 stars, of course.
This, no doubt, stands for the church that Jesus Christ established in the world,
and the woman being the bride, in a sense, the womanly element of the
brotherhood of God.
Yes, even so, parallel to this, I learned differently.
You see, as a Jesuit priest, I learned that I was the Virgin Mary, the Queen of
Heaven.
Yes, yes.
And, of course, I guess they wanted you to believe that, because it says here that
she had to flee, the dragon got after her, and she fled into the wilderness.
And there she was, you know, for an awfully long dark age period, wouldn't you
think?
Where she was suppressed and hidden and lost.
And that's why you had a hard time finding her, I believe.
Yes, the church has been suppressed.
I will say this, that under the Roman Catholic political power, because I
discovered, not only intellectually, as I found myself throughout my studies as
a Jesuit priest, that the Catholic institution is not even a religion,
much less a Christian church.
Catholicism is a political power under the cover of religion.
That is what it is.
I found that later, not only through my own personal experience within the Jesuit
order, but then when I came to the Scripture, the Holy Spirit called me to
identify these realities that I already went through with God's written
revelation.
And I see it in prophecy, all the way from the prophet Daniel to the book of
Revelation.
Isn't that beautiful?
Yes.
God knew it would happen.
Yes.
It was a terrible thing.
Yes.
But he had to warn his people, didn't he?
Definitely.
And no wonder, when John comes down here to this dragon who raped the church,
where the church climbed on the beast and rode beasts back, didn't she?
Yes.
She actually catered to his demands, joined in with the political power,
and then John says that he was amazed that she became, rather than a virgin woman,
that is a beautiful woman, a radiant woman, she became a Babylonian harlot.
That is what Revelation chapter 17 describes in such a prophetical
description.
I was convicted of a Holy Spirit on the difference between Catholic religion and
the Christian church.
That is where I discovered that it is impossible for Roman Catholicism to be a
Christian church once that she already, from the beginning, became conceived as a
harlot, as a prostitute.
Yes.
Not as a virgin.
Right.
Yes.
The difficulty would arise in the fact that you only have 30 years of the history
of the Christian church that is reliable, the New Testament.
Yes.
Whereas you have now 1,260 or 1,700 or 1,800 years of the Roman harlot.
Yes.
So the people of the world have really been deceived.
It's been deceived for many centuries.
And of course, this deceit has been taking place under, as I mentioned in the first
segment of this, your program, I will say that under the delusion that
Roman Catholicism has created in the minds of people as a drunkenness.
The angel prophesies that she has made drunk the inhabitants of the earth.
Under such a drunkenness, people have fallen to such a great delusion of seeing
Roman Catholicism as Christianity, and making almost the same thing,
while it's not.
While Christianity is one thing, and Catholic religion is another thing,
quite different.
If you want to read the history of Christianity, you would have to read the
book of Acts and the epistles written by the holy apostles.
Yes, that is how I was convicted throughout the process of my conversion.
And seeing this difference all the way from the book of Acts to the book of
Revelation, we see a different church altogether.
Well then, would you agree that the first denomination was not the Lutheran
denomination?
In reality, it was the Catholic denomination, because it broke off.
Yes.
From the true original church of Jesus Christ, or the Christian faith.
Yes.
Would you agree with that?
Well, I will say this much.
I will say that going from the scriptural point of view, biblical revelation,
I'll see that Roman Catholicism has been conceived very early, not in these last
stages.
I can see that the conception of Catholicism will go all the way back to
the Garden of Eden.
In the Garden of Eden already, Satan used two principles that are the two
pedestals of the Roman Catholic system today, in the 20th century.
And going back to the Garden of Eden, we see Satan using two principles that are
the basic ingredients and elements of the whole Catholic system.
One is, he tried to pervert God's revelation.
He went and told Eve, God has told you not to eat from the fruit of the trees of the
garden.
Now, he invert the singular to plural.
He took God's decree that was given in singular, God forbid not to eat from one
tree.
From one tree, not of the trees.
Now, Satan diverted, Satan speculated about.
As the woman saw this deceit and discovered this lie, he changed.
And he went from the perversion of the scripture to create a tradition,
already as the beginning of religious tradition.
He said, don't you see that if you partake of the fruit that God has forbidden you
not to eat, the fruit of the good and evil, then you shall become as gods
yourself.
You will like it, you will love it.
Now, that was a very religious proposal, a very wonderful religious proposal.
Because who is the man that was not designed to go as high as God?
Every human would like to have a little bit of divinity, you know.
Now, that is what Roman Catholic tradition is all about.
It is the perversion of the gospel with the amalgamation of all the other pagan
religions throughout history.
That is what I see, the gestation of Catholicism throughout the Old Testament
history.
And then the birth, her birth, the birth with Constantine the Emperor.
I will say that historically speaking, and prophetically speaking, you will see
that under the death of Constantine the Emperor, already the birth of Catholicism
will take place in 337.
So, you have then the Christian Church as recorded in the New Testament,
and then the first falling away under Constantine around 300.
Well, I will say that falling away began already in the first century.
If we read John chapter 2, 1 John chapter 2, verse 18, 19.
The Gnosticism.
The Antichrists already were there already.
The Holy Spirit revealed that in the coming and the manifestation of the
Antichrist, already in plural, many Antichrists were taking place.
Paul spoke to the Corinthians about false brethren.
Paul spoke to the Ephesians, elders, and told them in chapter 20 of the book of
Acts that to watch for the church, to watch for the doctrine, to watch for
the written revelation.
Because it will come a time when they will be infiltrated from then themselves,
among themselves.
Men will rise up against the written revelation, the doctrines of Jesus Christ.
How sad.
Very sad.
We have not been watching.
Not much.
While we have been sleeping, the enemy has been sowing tears.
Inside the church.
While we have been sleeping.
Right.
We are not studying our Bibles.
We are not reading the word of God.
And you are premillennial.
Not enough.
You are a futurist.
Take the book of Revelation.
Out.
And divorce it totally.
Totally from the reality.
From the context in which it was written.
Yes.
From John's day.
Yes.
You know, John combined the four beasts of Daniel.
Daniel had the vision of the bear, the lion.
That's correct.
And the leopard.
Then the terrible looking, vicious beast, which was Rome.
But then John combines all four into one.
And then out of that, he shows this head that was wounded.
Yes.
Now, Rome fell in 476.
Yes.
As far as a political Rome.
After 800 years, they fell.
Yes.
But out of the ruins of that fall of political Rome.
Yes.
Came forth papal Rome or religious Rome.
There it is.
To carry on this beastology of Daniel all the way down to the end of the world.
That's correct.
The head has been wounded and is still being healed, isn't it?
It was healed in 476 and it is still being healed through, as you were mentioning
earlier.
I will say the greatest manifestation of healing of this head in the person of the
Catholic system.
Is coming as a result of the charismatic renewal and the ecumenical movement.
This is when, because even the papacy and the entire Roman Catholic institution
falls so much in disgrace.
Not only throughout the protestant reformation to a point that even Charles
V, an emperor, already abdicated the crown.
Abdicated the empire and retired himself because he was put to shame under Martin
Luther's message.
He said, how a heretic can speak to me, an emperor, about Christ and salvation.
When the pope himself has not even known this much.
Yes.
Now he was put to shame.
An emperor, yes, Charles V.
He went back to Spain.
He said, I don't want.
The intention is, if Charles V keeps being an emperor, he will have to fight the
pope.
Politically and militarily.
And he doesn't want to do that.
He preferred to abdicate because he was put to shame.
Now, that means that already the Catholic system was falling in disgrace.
Very, very powerful from 476 down to the edges.
It was falling, falling, falling, falling.
Suddenly, it came a time when the Jesuit order, this is where I believe the healing
began, the Jesuit order in 1541.
This is what I have in the four horsemen riding in the black horse, the general
Jesuit.
Because it's prophetic that the establishment of the Jesuit order became
the beginning of the healing of Roman Catholicism.
Because the papacy was about to collapse in the Middle Ages already.
It was about to disappear under the Protestant Reformation.
It had no support, not even from the kings, not even from the emperors,
no support from people.
And coming to the Second World War, to be very brief in conclusion,
we see that falling even stronger.
Because Pius XII was engaged in such a conspiracy, not only against the Church as
a Pope, not only against Christ as taking his place, but against the Gospel and
against civilization.
Because he blessed the troops of Mussolini, he blessed the troops of
Hitler, he blessed the troops of Franco.
And then he proclaimed them to be ambassadors and protectors of the Catholic
faith.
Now, Pius XII was about to be brought to Nuremberg trial as a criminal of war.
And Americans protect him.
There was a compromise.
The Americans protected the Pope from being brought to trial.
That's correct.
Brought to trial.
For war crimes against civilization.
Against civilization.
Because of his support of the Nazi regime.
And protection of the Nazi troops and the Vatican.
And the Vatican was one of the largest and most powerful Nazi divisions already.
By the time that Eisenhower already was to land in Italy, the troops, the Allied
forces were about to land, they were prevented from landing and getting into
Italy because the Pope had one of the most strongest Nazi divisions protecting the
Vatican.
Is that right?
Yes.
And Hitler actually felt that he was a prototype of the Inquisition.
That's correct.
And exterminating the Jews.
Well, something similar has happened today in this process of healing of Roman
Catholicism.
As a result of that disgrace, of that falling, now they went about appealing to
the ecumenical movement.
And second to the charismatic movement.
And that is the process of healing of Roman Catholicism, prophetically.
That is what we see now.
So then you would see the political Rome being wounded by the invasion of the
Atalia, the Haman, and the Odiacer.
That's correct.
And then the healing of that through papal Rome.
And then later on the Jesuits coming and trying to heal it again.
And then we do know, however, that Rome will be entrenched so well in world
affairs that people will marvel when Christ slays her.
When he destroys her.
Yes, it's happened through theology of liberation.
Liberation theology, that is called.
It's happened that now, with communism, it's happened the same that happened with
fascism.
What happened is the Catholic system, being a political power under the cover of
religion, is looking for a political power that sustains her, that feeds her.
So Rome is turning to communism to sustain her because the beast has got to have
political assistance to survive.
That is correct.
She cannot convert people.
No, absolutely.
She has no spirit.
No.
So she has to have material and political assistance to survive in the world.
That's correct.
Which she cannot get in America, but she's trying to get it in Russia.
Definitely.
And in America, to the place that the Pope is meeting with American statesmen,
as well as Gorbachev.
Yes, to a point, we will say this, that American political power is
supporting right now a bit of the Catholic power.
That means already that took place with President Ronald Reagan by the time that
he appointed an ambassador to the Vatican.
Yes, he appointed an ambassador.
That was a failure, a big failure, a big betrayal even to the American
Constitution.
It was a betrayal to the American Constitution, yes.
Of course, I have a lot of affection for President Reagan.
Yes.
However, one of the things that I questioned was the involvement in Central
America.
Yes.
I might ask you, how much involvement in Central America boils down to nothing but
aid to the Roman Catholic Church in Latin America?
What happened in Central America right now is very much related to what happened in
Asia before, in Vietnam, Korea, all these countries under communism.
And what is happening in Europe right now, with the opening now.
What is happening is there is a type of reconciliation through the coordination of
the papacy.
Through the coordination of the papacy.
What that means, Brother Dougherty, is that we are living in the last stages
in prophecy here.
We are seeing now, as never we see before, we see the marks, the signs of one world
government and one church.
Yes, we're seeing that.
And not the Church of Christ, the Church of the Antichrist.
It would be the Babylonian Church.
Yes, the Babylonian Church.
And the evangelicals...
The preparation.
...or the people who are biblical Christians would have to go underground.
That is correct.
As they do in Brazil, Mexico.
Yes.
How many countries are tolerant, or shall I say intolerant, that you have
been in of the gospel message?
I will say this.
Today you can hardly find intolerance in the sense that was displayed in the Middle
Ages.
The intolerance is still there, almost in every country, but more
sophisticated.
Today we have a case where even in the United States, a priest like Clark
Butterfield converted to the gospel of Jesus Christ.
He happened to read Alberto, the first part of my testimony.
He came to us, and after he joined this ministry, and he was saved, and he became
a Christian, and he became part of the New Testament Church of Christ.
Once that happened, he was murdered.
He was killed by the Jesuits in Detroit, Michigan.
That was not in the Middle Ages.
That happened now.
We offer even the documents here, in the edition, in this edition of this
book, that under a court order in Detroit, Michigan, this book is illegal.
It's been banned under a court order today.
A court order of...
In the United States.
Of the United States.
Yes.
A record of Clark Butterfield converted to the Christian faith from Rome,
from the priesthood, and according to Dr. Rivera's testimony, murdered, and you
attribute it to the Jesuit...
To the Jesuit order.
The Jesuit order.
Through a medical doctor.
This is what I call a more sophisticated intolerance.
Right.
When they want to kill a person, not only to persecute, but even kill,
they can do so by sophisticated means, even scientifically.
Because they have access to so many avenues to hurt people.
Yes.
This is a very dramatic illustration.
Politically, medically.
Medically.
That's correct.
The documents to prove this are there in the book, and this is why the court
ordered not to publish no longer these documents.
We go back to Father Cheniqui.
Yes.
A wonderful man of God.
Here he is, 50 years in the Church of Rome, and then 40 years in the Church of
Christ.
The sequel of this is a tremendous, powerful revelation of what Catholicism is
all about.
Especially in the conspiracy that played in the United States, throughout the
history of the United States.
I am greatly impressed with Cheniqui because he had so much love.
Yes.
Tears.
Powerful.
Emotionally.
Yes.
And love with Catholics.
He would give his life for them.
Yes.
Abraham Lincoln loved Cheniqui, didn't he?
Yes.
He defended him, I believe, in a trial.
In a trial against his bishop.
Yes, his bishop.
His bishop, as most Catholic bishops, they went against him because they wanted
to stop him from proclaiming the gospel and uncovering all the corruption of
Catholicism.
As a matter of fact, he told President Lincoln that the Jesuits were to kill him
before he was killed by the Jesuits.
Cheniqui was the only person that came to President Abraham Lincoln to warn him
against the Jesuits.
Yes.
Yes, before he was murdered.
The assassination of Lincoln was announced, was it 48 hours?
Yes.
In Minneapolis, Minnesota, prior to the assassination in the Roman church.
That's correct.
They knew that he would be assassinated and that Booth...
The clergy already knew, yes.
The clergy already knew.
That's correct.
And that Booth was actually a henchman.
Yes.
Working for the Roman church.
Yes, of the Jesuit order, yes.
And this is documented in Washington.
It is documented in the Vatican too.
In the Vatican.
Yes.
That is where...
I read the files.
The files are in the Vatican.
Yes.
But I understand that Cheniqui wanted to put the blame where it belonged,
just as Adolf Hitler and the Vatican worked together.
Yes.
He wanted to put the blame where that Booth was actually working for the
Vatican.
That's right.
But they were afraid that after the Civil War scars were so serious that they didn't
want to cause a...
A conflict, an international conflict.
An international conflict between the Catholic and Protestant.
Yes, that is correct, yes.
This, actually, the memories of these things bring to me, to my own experience
in my own country, Spain, we have a civil war that was fomented by the Vatican in
1931.
Yes.
Under the pretext of communism.
Today you have our socialist government that is depriving people from the Gospel,
as the Catholics did before for so many centuries.
They have deprived my entire country from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Right.
Depriving Catholics from salvation, depriving Catholics from eternal security.
Why did the Roman Church have such a disdain for Abraham Lincoln?
They did because Lincoln was a good reader of the Holy Scripture, a good student.
He was searching the Scripture, and I remember that Jesus said,
search the Scripture.
And he not only said that, but he seems to have eternal life, and they are the ones
that give testimony of myself.
Yes, right.
Even Jesus said that through the Scripture we found life.
Abraham Lincoln was already, being a politician, more distinctive than any
other person.
Then they fear that Abraham Lincoln will enforce, more than no other president,
will enforce the reading of the Scripture.
Reading of the Scripture.
That's correct.
That is very fearful.
In exposing Babylon, you actually shed light on the Word of God and on the Church
of the Bible.
Yes, and he knew the difference between Christianity and Roman Catholicism.
He knew the difference, which many politicians do not know, especially in the
Middle East.
They don't know that Romanism is not Christianity.
Absolutely.
And that's why people hate Christianity.
Yes.
They think Christianity is Babylon.
It's Babylon.
Romanism.
Exactly.
And they hate Christianity.
The Muslims, they do that.
The Muslims, yes.
Yes, I wrote the sixth part of my testimony there.
The Prophet is called.
The Prophet and the Prophet.
I reveal how the Muslim religion was established by the Augustinian monks as
early as that already.
Right.
With the purpose to discredit Christianity, Evangelical Christianity,
Biblical Christianity, New Testament Christianity.
And then to destroy the Jewish population.
Yes.
Well, we're going to get into that next week.
We will.
Beloved, we believe in freedom.
Amen.
A man can believe whatever he wants.
God gives him that freedom.
He can eat of the tree of the knowledge of good or evil.
Now, God said don't do it, but the man had a will to do it, and he was allowed to do
it.
Even though God forbid it, God allowed him to do it.
And the same thing is true.
We love all people.
And we would die, I would die, Dr. Rivera would die for the right that
people have to believe anything they want to believe, whether a truth or a lie.
But we feel that we need to have a fair interchange, a fair understanding of
truth, so that people will have a chance to be able to discriminate between what is
lie and what is true, what is false, what is erroneous.
We would die for the right for people to disagree with us.
Yes.
And Dr. Rivera agrees with that.
But we thank God we have the opportunity in America to still express the freedom of
truth, that you can take it or leave it, you can eat of it or you can refuse it.
Come back next week.
Preaching the Word is preaching the truth.
And we'll be here as always.
Amen.