I'm really thankful that in these last days of time, there are still people that
are willing to make a stand and to do something for the Lord in this late hour
of time, no matter what it costs.
We're very privileged, as I said before, to have with us tonight Dr. Alberto
Rivera, who has made this stand.
He's an ex-Jesuit priest.
Dr. Rivera, praise the Lord.
Praise Him.
To Him be the glory now and forever.
Yes.
What a wonderful thing to know and to see that as the days go by, prophecies are
being fulfilled and the people of God are getting together, yes, in preparation for
the greatest event on earth and heaven, the great celebrations of the weddings of
the Lamb.
Certainly, for all that glory, the cross will be changed.
But it takes us a little time.
It will take us a little work to get there.
And we should do it with honor and with joy.
I have with me this evening a converted Roman Catholic nun.
And this is one of the many nuns and priests that are coming to the Lord Jesus
Christ.
Certainly, it pays off for even you to go and give a tract to someone.
The result, you'll never see it entirely.
Until we get to heaven, we will know what that tract did in the life of many people.
Then it pays off to serve Christ and be faithful to His church.
It pays off to go as far as He calls us to go, regardless of the cost, because we see
these constant living testimonies as a result of the work and conviction of the
Holy Spirit through the Word of God.
In the life of nuns and priests, more than generally speaking in the life
of Roman Catholic people, today, in response to all these imitations that
you see and watch on television, many priests and many nuns and many
different religious programs are going on.
And people almost are persuaded to believe that these priests are truly Christians.
People not only almost persuaded to believe, people already believe.
Of course, when someone believes that this is a reality in the life of a priest,
that they go back to the mass after the show was over, and go back to the
confession, and go back to the Pope, and go back to Mary, and go back to the
saints, and go back to his rosary, then I will not only say that there is
something wrong with that priest, but I will say there is something wrong
with the people that believe that he could be a Christian.
Then we have both sides, and God wants to respond to that in a very effective,
powerful way, as only God can do it.
This testimony of Sister Ilduara Bamunde is one of the many that God is using as a
response, the greatest and most powerful response to all these masquerade and
imitation that you even watch on television going on today.
The Lord is doing His work, there is no doubt.
He takes His time too, you know.
He lives in eternity.
He takes His time.
But when the time comes, then the world will be better prepared.
I would like for her to bring to you a briefing testimony of her conversion,
and she is going to speak in Spanish, I will try to translate into English,
and then we will at least have an idea how many things.
She is not going to be able to go into details of many things, but at least those
who can listen in Spanish, she has the tapes of her testimony, complete testimony
in Spanish, those who can hear, and very soon she will have those
testimonies in English too.
But how many of you have read or hear of Sister Charlotte here in America,
the conversion of an ex-nun?
Let me see your hands of those who have read or hear of the conversion of Sister
Charlotte.
Now, very few.
But for those who do not know or have not been able to read, that was a nun 50 years
ago almost, and she was converted, and she was brought out of the convent,
and they took her back again.
After they catch up with her, they forced her to go back, because she was in a
cloister, and a nun in a cloister cannot survive, cannot live outside of a convent.
If she escaped, and she did not go out under dispensation, as it is called,
then they will bring her back and keep her for the rest of her life under terrible
punishment.
They call it flagellation, of course, it's torch, but they gave a religious
terminology as flagellation of the flesh, that is torch.
Our sister was placed under torch from her head down to her feet.
She bear the marks of these torches that she received in the convent.
When she was able, finally, to realize, not even saved yet, but even much before
she was saved, as happened with me, as you can see throughout these
experiences that I have related to you, that during these confrontations we did
have these punishments, because in many instances I cannot resist the idea of
speaking of the very things that I was being confronted by the Bible,
by the Word of God.
Then she had some reasons to speak up, and they silenced her with torches and
punishment until the day that she received Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior,
and she was free, entirely free.
Now, she is from Colombia.
She has spent a great deal of time in the Colombian mountains and the Amazon
regions, reaching and teaching the Indian population in these areas as a nun.
And there is where she received, through all these trials, she received the
light of the Gospel, and through the Gospel she received the knowledge of her
Savior, Jesus Christ.
Allow me to introduce Sister Ilduara Bahamundi, and she will speak to you
briefly.
God bless you.
My name is Ilduara Bahamundi.
I am Colombian, and I know that most of you speak English, you don't speak
Spanish.
But tonight, for me, it is a joy to be with you and to share some experience.
I am filled with joy to see a group of people who give testimony of the rescue of
Jesus Christ in this time.
It is an evidence, the salvation, the reality of a living Christ for this
time.
My experience was in a convent for 12 years, and from there the Lord was working
as a missionary monk among the indigenous people, the tribe of the Ticuna Indians in
the Amazon.
Now, she went too far.
Now, you will benefit, those who understand Spanish, but I'm going to be
briefer than that.
Now, you already hear her name, and she is praising God, because at the
time that she arrived here among you, as happened with me, she realized that
truly the Lord Jesus Christ has been worshipped here and has been honored here.
And then she blessed the Lord for that, knowing how you too have been delivered
from the powers of darkness in many areas of your life.
That is a thrilling experience, because it reminds her from her own
experience what the Lord has done for her.
As she mentioned, and I did mention, she was, by the time that she started now
giving you a brief testimony, she started mentioning where and what area of Colombia
she was working with the Indians.
When, at the age of nine, I decided to enter the convent of Sierva de la Madre de
Dios, it was with a question, with a purpose, and the purpose was to know the
truth.
I had already been told that the truth was in the Holy Mother Church.
I was nine years old when, that is the first stage of her experience,
I was nine years old when I was inside, invited, persuaded to go to a convent.
And that is usually, and my own sister even went about seven when she was seven
years old.
You can imagine what has happened in many centuries in the past when this was
allowed to take place, even under the laws of every country.
Then, when she was already nine years old, the question that brought her to the
convent already was to find and search where was the truth.
And she questioned the Mother Superior when she had the interview with the Mother
Superior about where she can find the truth.
Shall her find the truth there?
She said, my dear girl, I can promise you, I can guarantee you that the truth is with
our Holy Mother Church.
As I went into the convent, and I was taken in 12 years later, I already took my
first vows, and two different types of vows.
One are temporal vows that you can be released from, and then there are the
perpetual vows, the eternal vows that you can never be released from.
It's the case of a priest that is ordained the same thing.
He is ordained forever priest, regardless whether he become a criminal,
whether he commit the greatest immoralities or whatever, even if he quit,
he is still a priest forever.
We will talk about that later.
In the meantime, throughout these 12 years, she went on and on searching for
that very question or that very answer of the question that brought her into the
convent.
Where is the truth?
And actually, she went into further, deeper study, as in her case, in her
convent, not all the convents take the same measures and the same studies that
she was in, but throughout all this time, she was already ordained or prepared as a
nun after all the different steps that she had to take.
Amen.
Throughout that time then, as a nun, she started getting closer to discover
that already was kind, and she used the term veil, was a veil that will stop her
from seeking any further or searching any deeper or seeing any further.
That veil is, as she put it, is the tradition, was the tradition.
It happened for her as a nun, happened for me as a priest, and for everybody,
even for any single Roman Catholic.
When she felt more need of Christ than ever before, that veil, it will be there,
it will be present, the manipulations of the traditions to a point that you could
not go any further, even in your most urgent desires and needs about Christ,
the person of Christ.
She said, the difference is that while she experienced the intellectual knowledge,
is that idea, the intellectual knowledge about the name of Jesus, she could not
conceive the person of Jesus.
She could not embrace, she could not be rescued by, she could not touch,
always was that intellectual idea of Christ, I have Jesus, but that is how far
she was from him.
As I went on, and my need of Christ, I was brought to the knowledge of the
functions of the priesthood.
And to me as a nun, as it has happened for everybody else, that particular person,
that priest, was the closer saint to Christ.
And then suddenly from the priest up to the Pope, he will be closer, he will be
more real Christ according to that veil, that tradition.
Of course, then I found that through the scripture, as I read Hebrew chapter 5,
there was only one high priest, and that high priest was Jesus Christ
himself and was in heaven.
He was not in the Vatican, he was not Gregory the first, or Damascus the first,
he was Jesus Christ and still being so.
Throughout a space of seven years, it took me not only to believe that there
was the church, that I was, but throughout the struggle of finding the truth,
I became more desperate, but at the same time she became more militant,
because she was sent to protect the Catholic faith with other nuns into
certain areas of Colombia where preachers, they were preaching the gospel.
And every time that a preacher, a missionary went into these fields,
these areas, then the bishops will call these nuns to their commons and will
commission them through the Mother Superior to go into these places and get
rid of these evangelicals, of these Christians, regardless of the cost.
And no matter how, they were there, as she put it, to defend, to protect the
Catholic people from, you know what, heresy, they said.
And the means of that struggle, in persecuting Christians, I found two
differences, that not all those believers, that so-called believers and so-called
Christians and so-called preachers and pastors and missionaries, they were not
all.
She could detect something was different, because while others were trying to make
peace with Rome, others were rejecting Rome to their very life and blood.
She noticed that difference.
There were some missionaries that, at any cost, they will make peace,
they will find a place for dialogue with the priests and the nuns, and they will
all be brothers and sisters.
But she detected that, and she was not a Christian.
Praise the Lord.
As I noticed that difference, I went to see a man, and I confront him,
I face him.
And that was a very different one of all the evangelists and preachers and
missionaries that I came across.
Because when I spoke to that man, why he was not willing to keep the peace,
and why he would not conceive the Catholic people as Christians and the Roman
Catholic institution as a Christian church, he said, no, there is no such a
thing.
He said, no, there is no way that we can make peace until you surrender to Jesus
Christ.
And there is only one way, and it is written here.
Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord
Jesus Christ, Romans chapter 5.
And he quoted to her that through the Word of God, he was commissioned and commanded
only to keep peace, and people are called and invited to keep peace with God through
Christ, not to compromise us.
So I decided to seek and know the Christ that this man had.
He was the living Christ, he was the real Christ.
And during a Mass in the convent, perhaps the last Mass to which I
participated, the Superior General said to me, you are going to listen and you are
going to participate in this Mass from the heart.
I had never participated in that Mass, but I knew that the Hebrew book of Isaiah
says that every priest is celebrating day after day useless sacrifices that cannot
erase your sins, but Christ, having offered a single sacrifice for sin,
has made us perfect forever.
Praise God.
Through this witness, this truly Christian servant of Christ, I became concerned
about the words that he said from the Scripture and many other things that he
transmitted and told me.
And as the days went by, I was very picky from then on, questioning everything that
I did and questioning the Mother Superior.
And this is where my troubles started, really, with the convent.
Through the reading of the Scripture and through the testimony that I was
receiving, then I was called by the Mother Superior and after some times of penance
and punishments that she was going through, some trials, the Mother Superior
recommended her to attend this Mass.
There was a special Mass to be celebrated in the convent and asked her to be there
to recant from all her doubts and all of her insecurities about the Catholic
doctrines that she must once for all get rid of all these doubts about the Catholic
institution, the Mother Church, as they call it.
And that Mass was prepared especially for that event.
She must come there with that intention in her heart and make a public act of that
intention.
As I went deeper into this struggle, even during the time of the Mass,
while the Mass was performed, a lot of questions rise up in my mind.
And throughout the 12 years of Norenry, as I can recall, I never have one single
instance where I can be secure, I can have the security that my sins,
my transgressions were washed away by the blood of Jesus Christ.
I came to know and I came to be aware that that Mass, being a bloodless Mass,
a bloodless sacrifice, you should understand as I mentioned yesterday that
the Mass, even so that the Consul of Trent decreed that is the body and the blood and
the soul and the deity of Christ nevertheless, is declared as a bloodless
Mass.
And as she read in Hebrew, she could understand that was needed a blood for
remission of sins.
Now once that Holy Spirit brought her attention to that fact, she was there and
that Mass looking for the real blood that will be able to wash her transgressions
and sins away, but it was not there.
Take Psalm 15, and when you take Psalm 15, it says, Lord, who will enter your
sanctuary?
And when every nun looks at the little piece of paper that has the answer,
we find that the answer is the one of clean hands and pure heart.
But I look at my hands and they are dirty, dirty with idolatry, and my heart is not
pure because there is the root of bitterness.
That is when not only questions arise more and more often, but there is when my
decisions start getting close to find out that the heaviness of my transgressions
and sins were crying loud for forgiveness that I could not receive, for peace that I
could not have.
And this came to be known especially by the priest that was performing the Mass,
reading Psalm 15.
And you can see in different ways how the Holy Spirit used different messages in the
Scripture to bring about that needed conviction of every person.
And while there she was in the same Mass, the priest that was reading Psalm 15 will
say, Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle?
Who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
He that walk uprightly and work righteousness and speak the truth in his
heart.
He that titheth not with his tongue, nor doth evil to his neighbor,
nor taking up a reproach against his neighbor.
As he went on, conviction was coming to her from the Lord, knowing that no other
priest, not her, were forgiven or redeemed by Christ at all.
They were all sinners there.
They were all stained with their sins and transgressions, and they were professing
Christ, the one who could wash away all those transgressions and sins.
There is how she conceived the word and that psalm.
She said that immediately she brought to her memory Exodus chapter 20, among
others, the Scripture, as she went through these experiences, and she conceived that
if only those who have their hands clean can be in the tabernacle, then that means
the kingdom of heaven.
There she conceived that she was not in the kingdom of heaven.
Her hands were filthy.
Her heart was filthy.
The priest's heart and hands, they were all filthy.
Who then could stand before the Lord?
Who then, from all then, could enter the tabernacle, the kingdom of heaven?
Now, as she was reminded by the Holy Spirit, she will be brought to the fact
that she became, as they all were, idol worshippers.
They have statues, they have images, and she was looking around that very
moment that this message of Exodus 20 was brought to her mind under the Holy
Spirit's conviction, that she could see that God was giving her, offering her,
all these signs and evidence and proofs around her, that she was not where he
would like her to be.
It was at that moment that, for the first time, I prayed.
Every twelve years as a nun, I had prayed.
It is not the same to pray than to pray.
To pray is to repeat, to pray is to speak with God.
And I prayed for the first time to a God that I did not know.
But I prayed with a humble heart, and he heard me, he answered me.
I asked God, and I said, Jesus of Nazareth, I do not know you, but I want to
know you.
I want you to rebel today in my life.
I have received crutches as a nun, but I need life, and life in abundance.
And I was able to experience on that day that Jesus Christ is real, and that he
gives life in abundance to those who call on him.
It was a rosary, not a reading prayer, but now from my heart I want to speak to
God, and God alone.
Then she called upon the name of the Lord, and she knew that anyone that calls upon
his name can be saved.
That is where the blessings start pouring out from heaven.
We were trying to help many people, and we had a center for young people
addicted to drugs and alcoholics.
And we also worked with prostitutes, trying to help them, and trying to remove
the root of bitterness, or the problem that had led them to this vice.
We tried to do it, but now in that mass I remembered that I had not succeeded,
and that just as I did not succeed, I needed a supreme being to do it with
them, and to do it with me, so that I could be sure to recommend a living
Christ.
Certainly that this is a paradox, what you are going to hear, and what most
of you perhaps already know, that the clergy live this daily, and Roman Catholic
people are witness, and actually everybody witness, the fact that they were so
dedicated, and she went into, during these days of struggle, she went to other areas
of work, where she was helping the rehabilitation of drug addicts,
alcoholics, prostitutes, and runaway kids, and so on.
And there she was in the midst of all these problems, of all these horrifying
experiences in the life of men and women as well, and there she was with nothing to
give, and nothing able to do in favor of these very needed people.
All what brought upon her was more difficult, more anxiety, when she was
surrounded by all these other experiences, and trying to help people, without not
only the knowledge, but the power of a living Christ.
I asked myself with desperation, where is my God?
Where is the God that I seek?
Where is the God of the sacraments?
Where is the God that I light candles for?
But it seems that he did not answer me.
But at that moment, I was crying out, there was uncertainty.
I cried out to the God of the chapel, but I cried out to the God of heaven,
and I was humiliated, and the God of heaven would answer me.
This was the time that suddenly I became more aware of the need of more
communication with the truly living God, while I was still calling upon the false
God.
I don't know what to do, or what to go.
The confusion was already there, dealing with the matter of light and
darkness.
And she could see that she could not offer to nobody, to no one, not even herself,
anything, because she was more persuaded than ever before, that every time that she
did try to offer something or to help someone, she was unable, she was not
really at peace about what she was giving or offering in order to help and serve.
I said, Christ, I don't want any more deceptions, I don't want any more lies,
I need you to reveal yourself today to my life.
While the priest was lifting the host, he was cutting it in three pieces and
saying, this is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
But I wanted to know which of the two was the Lamb, which of the two was right,
who would answer me in that moment.
I cried again and again throughout the process of that Mass.
And again I went back and I said again, Lord, Lord, help me to know what is going
on.
I need you, I need to know you.
And there is, in that very moment that I cried again before the Lord from the deep
of my heart, so needed, of peace and life.
There the priest took the host in that moment, break it in three pieces as usual,
that is the part of the liturgy, is broken in three pieces, the big host
that you see all the time, is very symbolic, that act.
Then at the time that he broke it, and he said, there is the Lamb of God that
takes the sins of the world away.
And she already questioned that.
There was enough light already to question.
Because her struggle, as you can see, was due to the fact that she could not
trust in the Lord at the same time that she could not trust in what she had going
through as a Roman Catholic nun.
Now, that was another evidence that the Lord was given to her.
By the time that that priest brought that idol, that sun god, before her eyes and
mentioned that that host was the Lamb of God.
He would not say, this is the symbol, he said, this is the Lamb of God that
takes the sins away.
Then she knew there was a time now for her to take a decision.
When the priest moistened the host in wine and took it to my lips, it is as if a
thunder was heard, it is as if the earth trembled.
Everyone began to tremble in the place.
When God speaks, the earth trembles, man trembles, and Satan runs.
And at that moment, when the priest was going to take the host to my lips,
that host did not reach my lips.
She fell to the floor and broke into pieces, while one of the nuns was going to
pick up the flour that was left of the host.
Then the priest stops pouring the wine, with his tongue he picks up what for him
is the blood of Christ.
And I hear a voice that transgresses my life, the voice of God that tells me,
Ilduara, that is not my blood, my blood was shed only once, escape for
your life and run away from the convent.
Then something happened, it happened so much that I myself unlearned her
preaching.
Now she has been blessed in remembering the very things that happened.
By the time that priest finally took hold of the end of the ceremony and started
giving the host, she approached the altar.
And there was the tremendous manifestation of God in such a way that she could almost
hear the voice of God.
She could hear God speaking to her in a loud voice.
By the time that she was there to receive the host and was ready to get the host in
her mouth, suddenly something happened.
That host fell to the floor and could not reach her lips, no, much less her tongue.
The host fell, everybody looked, and a desperation came where all the nuns
all around were there in the chapel.
Immediately they went over, they rushed to the altar and every nun, every priest,
kneeled down and started with their tongues cleaning the floor to get every
piece of the host.
They were desperate, they were like demons going over with their tongues over the
floor.
That is what is commanded by the consuls of the institution.
That is how people become to believe that that is truly the body of Christ.
Then she witnessed all, but she could not go down, something was restraining her.
And there is no doubt that in His mercy and His love, God already was not only
giving testimony to her of His love, but to all those who already were so blind
and so drunk of what was taking place.
Certainly, that in that very moment, I felt, not only I hear, but I felt that
God's presence was helping me to quit.
In that very moment, right there, in the midst of all these happenings,
she felt taken and forced to walk and run, and she did.
She ran out the convent and she escaped.
She knew that God was giving command to go and to go out, to come out, right there,
without any moment to wait for.
And she left.
Praise God.
Hallelujah.
Praise the Lord.
The intention was to introduce her and to give you a very brief idea of what the
Lord has done for her.
And have her one entire evening here, perhaps Sunday, as we were not able to
work out yet the program.
I believe that in case there is no time to work out her return here Sunday,
I feel and I know that the Lord will be pleased if I postpone for tomorrow the
third part of our prophetical seminar until tomorrow.
And we go on with her testimony.
They had always told me that with Rome there was no fighting.
And when I left the convent, I tried to look for my parents.
I was very young and I looked for my parents, but my parents did not receive me
because it was the betrayal of the home.
I also had to leave my home and I looked for a job, but I did not have the
diplomas, the certificates that I had studied, and they were only in the
convent.
But they would not give them to me so that I would not get a job, so that I would
have to return to the convent, suffering, humiliated, and know what
happens to a heretic when he tries to fight or tries to betray Rome.
I think that they are pleased, especially today, with all the goodwill
that the Vatican is trying to show even to the very Christians.
Then it used to be different years ago.
Before they left, they could get killed.
Now, today they can leave as they wish, but under what they call dispensation.
And even so, when dispensation is given, all diplomas and doctorates and master's
degrees, all what you have earned through all these years is retained by the
institution and is not given to you.
What that means is that you go out, that convent, that monastery, that parish,
looking for a job, and you have nothing to show that you know what you are saying
that you know because you have nothing to show.
You have no diplomas, no certificates, nothing.
They retain every single document until they know how you behave outside.
If they know that you behave well with the institution, they will give it.
Through a lot of negotiations, they will give it.
But in her case, they already knew.
She could not have her documents and she could not go back for fear that they would
retain her.
Not only retain the document, retain the person.
It happened with Sister Charlotte and other nuns and priests in the past.
It happened with me too.
Now, then she could not get all the documents that was needed and there she
was in society, not knowing what to do, not even knowing how to work.
The first thing they say when a nun leaves a convent or when she makes the decision
to escape is that she is crazy or she is mentally ill.
And this was the first thing that was said to my colleagues, what was said in the
whole town.
Later, there was a detective from the F2 of the police in Colombia and the Superior
General.
They were the two to the place where I worked.
And with a letter certified from a rest home, they took me to that rest home
because I was mentally disturbed.
And I was there for a month until I found a Christian psychologist who cried out to
God to rescue me and get me out of this place.
And they asked for a diagnosis from another doctor on the street who was not a
Jesuit.
When they gave the diagnosis, they found that I was not mentally ill, that I had
been taken to this place to prove that I was crazy or mentally ill.
They were able to bring her back, but that was still a little bit too late
to take her life.
What they did was different.
What they did happened too.
It happened to be with my own experience.
It was too late because already some of the things were being known, even to the
authorities, how she escaped.
Then she was taken with the help of the local authority to a psychiatric clinic
because the Mother Superior had stated that the reason why what happened to her
was because she was mentally disturbed.
There was no problem in the company with her.
There was no torture.
There was no punishment.
Because that already she was confessing and telling and showing all the signs and
marks that she had in her body.
She said, no, no, no, no.
She is mentally disturbed and this is what has happened.
Then they considered this and they put their own psychiatrists.
And of course, these psychiatrists, they all were Catholics.
And they said, yes, she is very bad.
She must be retained.
She cannot go out.
Then, suddenly, by the providence of the Lord, she was given the opportunity to be
treated upon request of some of the local authority with others.
They just happened to ask for that.
They said, well, let's get the test under some other psychologist.
And let's get some other psychologist to see her before we decide the final action.
And it happened to be that that man, that was a psychologist, he was a
Christian.
And when he knew what has happened, and I'm glad to hear that he himself was
not dependent even in psychology.
That is great.
A Christian psychologist should never depend in psychology.
Yes, you better believe this.
And if he is a psychiatrist, he better get healed.
Yes, you are going to find a lot of surprises these days with Christian
psychiatrists and psychologists.
Then it happened that that was one of these men.
And it happened that God showed that great mercy that He always is ready to show.
Then she was taken to that man, and that man certified that their others,
the psychiatrists and the others that treat her, they were wrong.
And he proved it before a court.
Yes, praise the Lord.
There is a disadvantage in my country, in Colombia, and it is that the concordat
still sustains a peace pact between the Catholic Church and the state.
And after I got out of the rehabilitation clinic, I had to go back to the convent
for a trial.
But I refused to do it, and they filed a lawsuit.
This lawsuit had been filed for fraud.
They said that I had studied in the Convent of the Service of the Mother of
God, and I had not worked for that convent.
I had left before finishing the work that I had to do.
And for that reason, they sued me for 80,000 Colombian pesos, or I would return
to the convent, or I would go to jail.
They failed in that attempt, but they work out another, and they keep on working all
the time.
Then, when they failed this, then the hierarchy of the Catholic institution plot
another play, accusing her of owning the convent over 80,000 Colombian pesos.
I don't know how many dollars will be, but quite a few thousand.
And then the authorities said, why?
What she did?
Why did she take the money?
They said she broke her contract.
She was here in the convent to fulfill this contract for so many years in this
particular job in education.
And she had broken and owned us that much money because that work was not performed.
Of course, you have to understand that this, before a court in the United States
today, it will have no validity, but it will in the future, after a
concordat is being signed by President Reagan.
Because this is some of the articles of a concordat between the Vatican and a
government, where they could say, when we request your assistance,
you have to give us.
You cannot deny our petitions.
On these agreements, they base, they have certain laws, certain articles,
certain rules, that the government must respect in cases of confrontations with
their clergy and their people.
And that was the case when she was brought to court.
The concordat between Colombia, the government of Colombia, and the
Vatican, he showed up in favor of the Vatican, accusing her of a crime that she
never committed.
They gave her three alternatives.
As she stood before the court, the three alternatives were, one,
jail, to be incarcerated.
Second, if she does not want to be incarcerated, she must pay these $80,000
that the government was claiming from her.
Even, she could have another alternative.
No jail, no payment, but the final alternative was what they were expecting
and hoping for.
To have her back in the convent to finish the job, they said.
Actually, they were the ones that would finish the job.
But when I told him that I was not willing, he told me, you have seven years
in jail, there is a claim for fraud, we cannot prove otherwise, and you are
lost.
At that moment, it was as if someone had enlightened my mind, but I told him,
I am not lost.
The one who is lost is you.
You are violating the law of my country.
You are mixing civil laws with ecclesial laws.
Because if the concordat says that civil laws cannot be mixed with ecclesial laws,
I do not understand why you, as a civil law, are judging me as belonging to the
ecclesial law.
Jesus, when he said the kingdom of heaven, what is that expression in English?
The kingdom of heaven becomes strong and you must fight and you must be brave and
you must obtain it that way.
You cannot just watch it like a spectator and see what a beautiful kingdom it is.
In order to really know the kingdom of heaven, you must enter and you must
struggle to enter.
Then you must be brave.
Then she was comforted by this word of the Lord and she said, I prefer to go to jail.
Because in jail I will be able to witness the very things that I don't know yet.
And she was not yet ashamed when she had been encouraged to take that decision and
that step.
The Lord was training and preparing her on the tremendous trial.
Then suddenly they said, well, we want to take you to jail right now.
They took her and they have 72 hours for a person to be in that particular place.
And then as a woman, they will be translating her from the general jail that
is called to the prison, the woman prisons.
And during these two 72 hours transition, a captain from the police came to see her.
And of course, I'm sure that he was sent by the ecclesiastical authorities and
telling her, before you are transferred, I want to give you an opportunity.
I'll take you back to the convent right from here.
Nobody will know nothing.
Nobody will say nothing.
I'll take you with me back to the convent.
And everything is over.
And then she said, no, I think I'm going to stay here.
Then he went and quote and said, don't you see that you are committing a
serious crime, not only against the civil laws, but against your church.
And he started dealing as an official with religious matters.
And he was getting very involved, deeply involved.
You can see how much of a commission he has to carry on as a good Catholic.
Suddenly, he caught him in that dilemma and told her, do you know that you seem to
be performing a better job for the institution, for the clergy, for the
government, and for the civil laws?
You see, you are placing the ecclesiastical laws above the civil law.
He was very upset when she mentioned this.
They decided to hand me over to the clergy.
And they took me to a remote city.
There was the Superior General of the convent.
There was the Cardinal.
There was the Bishop.
Several nuns and priests from all the dioceses.
A trial would be held first between them.
And they started with questions.
The Superior General asks me, why have you become one of those?
But I told him, I have not become one of those, but I have become Jesus.
It is not the same to become one of the Evangelicals than to become Christ.
She is trying to jump as much as she can.
There are many details here.
But during this period, they tried another thing.
She was not yet in full time in the federal prison when already another news
arrived.
And the news was that she was being released.
That shows you the degree of confusion and fear that the entire institution goes from
time to time.
God placed her under judgment.
One single individual can cause her tremendous nightmare.
Tremendous nightmare.
Some people say, this is why I am doing so much trouble.
Causing a lot of trouble.
Now, she already was in that position and they knew there was trouble coming.
Then, before she got in touch even with people in jail, in the prisons,
they even feared that.
Then they released her to bring her before an ecclesiastical tribunal.
And of course, that is your inquisition.
That you believe that she already disappeared, but still at work.
24 hours around the clock.
Now, when she appeared before the tribunal, it was made up, as all
inquisition tribunals, made up of the clergy.
There is no civil person there.
It is only clergymen that occupy as judges and what you call the jury as well.
Then, there she was and there were bishops and nuns and priests according to their
different office.
And she was before that trial now.
You say that Mary is not a mediator.
But I replied, it is not me, the scripture says.
The Bible says that there is only one God and only one mediator between God and men.
Jesus Christ man.
Then she said, no, I was not converted to them.
I was converted to Christ.
And they said, well, if that is the case, then let me ask you this.
And they went to the traditions because the way that they can finally judge her,
not only but condemn her, will be by finding her guilty of breaking the canon
laws that support and protect the tradition of the Roman Catholic
institution.
This way, still under a concordat between government and the Vatican, they can still
charge her with all kind of felonies, you name it.
They can build up and fabricate hundreds of them.
This was the purpose of that trial, to a tremendous interrogatory on the
tradition, to see whether she will quote this scripture against the tradition and
so forth.
Continuing the questions, such as, why do you deny the deity of Mary?
Why do you say that it was not Peter the first Pope?
And questions that had to be answered through Scripture.
The question always ended by saying, it is Christ Jesus.
There is no other alternative for man.
The Superior General then decided to take a chair and tie me to that chair and
blindfold me to see if I was as brave as I pretended to be.
The second question that came after, among others questions that will arrive
about Peter, about saints, about confession, everything.
The second question that made them very upset was when they said, do you deny that
Mary is a meditator?
Then she said, yes, I do deny that she is a meditator, because the Bible teaches me
now that there is only one meditator.
It doesn't say two.
It doesn't say only one meditator between God and man.
And this is Jesus Christ, the man.
Praise his name.
Yes.
After they tied me to the chair and blindfolded me, the Superior General gave
one of the nuns some tweezers, like pliers.
And they said to me, let's do this.
This was done in the Holy Inquisition.
You have rebelled against Romanism.
You have betrayed the servants of the Mother of God.
And we have gathered all the priests and nuns of the diocese.
We need you to renege before them and say that they have convinced you, some
evangelicals, for you to become an evangelical.
We need you to say that the Christ that they profess is not real.
We need you to say that you are not a Christian.
That you have not become an evangelical.
That they simply tried to buy you.
But when the Superior General came and said to me, deny what you have become.
I said, I cannot deny because I have not become anything.
But I have become the living Christ who gave his life in rescue of mine.
As you can see, during this trial they brought a lot of priests and nuns that
they could witness precisely as a matter of sample in her life what was about to
happen.
And to show you the dimensions of realities about Inquisition, this is one
of the many samples that I will be able to show you some other times.
Is today, in modern day, the trial already went on and on and finally went over and
they sentenced her.
After the sentence already, the punishment was to be applied right there.
That is the procedure of Inquisition.
They do not say, we are going to punish you later, we are going to send you back.
Right there, after a person is made guilty, the sentence starts right there
before the tribunal.
And that means part of the torches they use start right there.
And they use certain instruments to start the punishment.
One of them is like a pin, some kind of instrument that will be used to start
taking hair one by one.
That is part of the punishment among others that will be listed and she won't
have time to even list them all.
Now you are on time.
I was still taking my hair off and you have five minutes.
Give up what you have become.
And it went on.
Finally, I fainted because of the pain.
And my head was alive.
All the hair had been taken off.
But when I woke up, after being locked up in the courtroom of the accused,
I discovered and I was full of joy because they took my hair off, but I didn't deny
Jesus.
Yes, as the punishment starts, as I go and she goes, I myself cannot
resist the emotion to know that I witnessed many of these things,
and many other horrifying things.
And in many of these acts that I brought myself, being a Jesuit priest,
I was the accuser.
She was brought, kneeled under the tribunal, and they start punishing her.
And believe it or not, the entire hair of her head was taken out of her scalp.
And she was bleeding all over.
The process continued for hours and hours.
And she was bleeding to the point that she could not resist to see the blood coming
over.
They would not allow her to clean her face or anything.
And then she fainted.
And she was taken finally.
After she was awake, all bleeding, all the blood dripping and drying in her
clothes.
Then she was there by herself in a special room they call for the punished clergy.
And there she was by herself there to reflect as they expect that they will
reflect and they will recant.
Before they take them or take her to another step of punishment.
It's just that transition time, waiting and expecting that that will be
enough for her then to recant and reject.
But she said that right there, the greatest joy of her life came to be
known to her when she knew that she now had the strength and the love.
Because she said she would not experience hate, but the love and the peace of
Christ.
Yes, praise the Lord.
Amen.
Yes, as she realized there in that very moment, in that very time, in that very
place.
Is when she realized the greatest manifestation are her salvation in Jesus
Christ as she trusts Him and she waits upon Him and she embraces Him.
Actually, if you are here this evening, she said, is my invitation to you that you
come quickly to Him.
There is no waiting period.
When you know that you need Him, then all what you have to do is just
realize that you need Him.
And have Him.
Have Him now.
Then as we stand up, that is your invitation.
And it's up to you to decide this evening whether you will give to your life to
Christ your Savior and Redeemer.
And whether you will realize that all the sufferings on earth could never be
compared with how much He suffered for you when He took your place.
Not His place, your place.
When He suffered in your place for you.
Now, remember this.
There is no time to waste.
You should do it quickly.
As you are.
As you feel.
Come now.
Come forward.
Right now.
Come forward.
Walk out.
Come out.
And say, Lord and Master, I receive Thee as my Lord and Savior.
Come now.
You need Him.
Now is the time.
Supply the need.
He can do it.
Come out.
Come forward.
And we will be here with you as He will come to you.
In an act of faith, you can receive Him as your Lord and Savior.
This is the opportunity.
The Word of God said, Come out of her my people.
If you want to give evidence and prove that you are a child of God, then show it.
Show it.
Give it.
You cannot do it by tradition.
You must do it by faith and faith alone.
See?
Now you must be reminded again.
Justify by faith.
And faith alone will bring you in peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Come forward.
Come out.
Come out of her.
You must come out.
If you are not in Jesus Christ, if you are not a born again person,
if you are not a child of God, you are a child of the devil.
There is no doubt.
You must decide this evening what you want to be from now on.
You have been given evidence.
Not just the message, but you have been given evidence, signs of the message.
That is good enough.
The Lord is merciful.
The Lord is compassionate.
He shows His compassion and His love to show you and her life what He is able to
do and perform.
Come to Him now this evening.
As we do pray, I ask you to pray and in a minute we will finalize this invitation.
You come forward.
If you are still insecure, go ahead.
Call upon the name of the Lord.
He will give you all the security you need now.
Call upon His name.
Anyone that calls upon His name shall be saved.
Call upon His name now and give testimony, public testimony, that you have received
Him and He has received you this evening.
You who have come forward, say this prayer and say it unto the Lord.
Say it with all your heart.
Repeat it after me.
Say it to the Lord Jesus Christ and mean it from the very depths of your heart.
Repeat after me.
My Lord and my God, have mercy on my soul, a sinner.
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God.
I believe that He died on the cross and shed His blood for the forgiveness of all
my sins.
I believe God raised Jesus from the dead by the power of the Holy Ghost.
Come into my heart, Lord Jesus.
Wash all my sins away in the precious blood You shed for me.
You will not turn me away, Lord Jesus.
You will save my soul.
I know because Your word, the Bible, says so.
Lord, I know that You have heard me.
And I know that You have answered me.
And according to Your own word, I know that I am saved.
Thank You, Jesus, for saving my soul.
And raise your hand and say, Thank You, Jesus.
Praise the Lord.
Hallelujah.
Thank You, Jesus.
Praise the Savior.
Hallelujah.
Praise the Savior.
Thank
You, Father God, for these souls, Lord and Master, that You have sent
forward here tonight.
Pour out Your strong Spirit upon them.
Give them a sincere desire to pick up the cross and to follow after You.
Lord, to accomplish something for God in these last hours of time.
Pour out fear on their souls, Lord and God.
Give them strong leading and guidance in the Holy Spirit, Lord and Master.
We thank You for this service, Father God.
We thank You for the testimony of Your service that You sent here, Lord and
Master.
Build a supernatural wall of fire around about the both of them, Father God.
Protect them, lead them, and guide them, Lord and Master.
Bring them back here safely tomorrow, Lord and God, to minister the Word,
Lord and Master.
We thank You tonight, Father God, for pouring out Your Spirit here.
For convicting these souls, Lord and God.
For saving these souls, Lord and Master.
For touching each and every heart here, Lord and God, with this testimony,
Lord and Master.
We praise You.
We thank You for it, Lord and God.
Father, bless the food this evening.
Bless the hands that prepared it.
Bless each and every Christian in the world, Lord and God, that's doing a work
for the Lord these last hours.
Lord, pour out supernatural boldness on all Your servants throughout the world
today, Lord and God.
Supernatural walls of fire everywhere, Lord and God.
We'll praise You for it, and we'll thank You for it, in the mighty name of Jesus.
And everyone here says, Amen.
Amen.
Praise the Lord.
You're dismissed.