WEBVTT 00:10.320 --> 00:12.260 Welcome to the Preach the Word broadcast. 00:12.760 --> 00:17.180 It gives us a great deal of pleasure to come to you with the preaching of the Word 00:17.180 --> 00:21.900 and the truth and the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit as he operates through his 00:21.900 --> 00:22.500 written Word. 00:23.120 --> 00:27.320 We thank God today again that we have with us Dr. Alberto Rivera. 00:27.780 --> 00:28.640 Thank you again. 00:29.000 --> 00:34.340 You have been preaching through this part of the country in the Washington area. 00:34.600 --> 00:35.220 That's correct. 00:35.380 --> 00:42.080 In Winchester and our people are splendidly pleased with your testimony and 00:42.080 --> 00:42.680 your message. 00:42.980 --> 00:43.260 Thank you. 00:43.400 --> 00:45.460 I've been blessed to be among yourself. 00:45.680 --> 00:50.820 I've been blessed to visit your church and visit your people and visit the 00:50.820 --> 00:51.280 Christians. 00:51.920 --> 00:57.860 And I've been blessed above all in seeing so many Roman Catholics turning to the 00:57.860 --> 01:01.920 gospel of Jesus Christ and to Christ himself as the Lord and Savior. 01:02.500 --> 01:07.800 I've been blessed tremendously in this area, Silver Spring, Tacoma Park, 01:08.020 --> 01:11.960 Washington, D.C., and many of the areas where the Lord has brought me, 01:12.120 --> 01:17.180 even Winchester now as we've been going around Virginia. 01:17.660 --> 01:24.220 Then I will say this, that I live in this area with a lot of sadness, not only joy. 01:24.340 --> 01:28.940 That is a paradox in my heart right now because I have learned to love quickly. 01:29.520 --> 01:35.140 I have learned to love you, to love the Christians and the brothers and sisters 01:35.140 --> 01:41.400 that have prayed for us and support us and be so faithful to Christ and to his 01:41.400 --> 01:42.200 teachings. 01:42.480 --> 01:42.520 Yes. 01:42.560 --> 01:44.360 It is mutual, likewise. 01:44.680 --> 01:46.280 I would like to say something else. 01:46.400 --> 01:53.560 I would like to invite our audience in order to be more informed, fully informed 01:53.560 --> 01:59.020 of many of the areas between Catholicism and Christianity that they can write to me 01:59.020 --> 01:59.480 personally. 01:59.660 --> 02:01.380 They can even call me over the phone. 02:01.860 --> 02:09.920 And they can even request videos and tapes and books that will give more information 02:09.920 --> 02:14.900 on the different subjects that we are talking about during these different 02:14.900 --> 02:15.500 programs. 02:15.720 --> 02:21.360 I would like for them to have as much as you can have, and I'm sure that you will 02:21.360 --> 02:29.460 be satisfied and blessed in getting to these different testimonies of so many 02:29.460 --> 02:35.640 different converted Roman Catholic priests, converted Roman Catholic nuns and 02:35.640 --> 02:38.160 monks and even bishops, Roman Catholic bishops. 02:38.580 --> 02:44.620 Recently we have among our ministry two bishops that are being converted to the 02:44.620 --> 02:45.860 gospel of Jesus Christ. 02:46.340 --> 02:46.440 Yes. 02:46.600 --> 02:48.060 We rejoice at these victories. 02:48.480 --> 02:54.420 For those of you who were not with us in the first two broadcasts, Dr. Alberto 02:54.420 --> 02:59.340 Rivera is a converted Jesuit priest from Rome to Jesus Christ. 02:59.600 --> 03:05.320 He read himself, like Alexander Campbell and his father Thomas Campbell, 03:05.720 --> 03:10.320 read himself just by reading the Bible into the light of New Testament 03:10.320 --> 03:11.080 Christianity. 03:11.460 --> 03:18.000 Today he is a born again New Testament Christian, has been immersed into Jesus 03:18.000 --> 03:22.820 Christ for forgiveness of sins, and is a partaker of the communion with 03:22.820 --> 03:28.440 God both in spirit and in the Lord's Supper, and today is just on fire for 03:28.440 --> 03:30.480 Christ, blazing the trail for Jesus Christ. 03:31.020 --> 03:37.660 And it is our privilege to be in the company and the companionship and to have 03:37.660 --> 03:42.720 an ally such as Dr. Rivera on the front lines for Jesus Christ in this world 03:42.720 --> 03:43.160 today. 03:43.300 --> 03:43.300 Thank you. 03:43.300 --> 03:43.880 Most grateful. 03:44.060 --> 03:45.100 There is so much darkness. 03:45.680 --> 03:45.820 Yes. 03:46.020 --> 03:51.940 Now, we mentioned that the early church corrupted very quickly. 03:52.520 --> 03:53.480 It was a miracle. 03:53.600 --> 03:54.740 I will say this. 03:54.860 --> 03:56.000 I will say this. 03:56.080 --> 04:01.460 If you allow me, and I'm sure you will agree with me biblically, you are a very 04:01.460 --> 04:08.080 biblical minded believer as an evangelist of the gospel of Jesus Christ, 04:08.300 --> 04:14.040 you will understand that in my experience in the past as a Jesuit priest, 04:14.420 --> 04:20.300 I always conceived that the Roman Catholic institution was the only church, 04:20.400 --> 04:21.580 it was the church of Christ. 04:21.680 --> 04:26.040 Then I was very disappointed when I discovered through the pages of the 04:26.040 --> 04:31.200 scripture and through the teachings of the apostles that Rome and her teachings have 04:31.200 --> 04:35.780 nothing to do, not with the church of Christ, not with the teachings of Christ, 04:36.200 --> 04:37.700 not with the doctrines of the apostles. 04:38.280 --> 04:39.140 Now, that was shocking. 04:39.360 --> 04:40.320 That was devastating. 04:40.700 --> 04:46.560 But nevertheless, it was fulfilling because finally it became my decision to 04:46.560 --> 04:53.940 acknowledge Christ as my personal Savior and Lord and being obedient to his 04:53.940 --> 04:54.260 teachings. 04:54.700 --> 04:58.840 I began to be baptized as I was baptized by mercy. 04:59.200 --> 05:00.900 My sins were forgiven. 05:01.740 --> 05:04.980 My life was blessed with the presence of the Holy Spirit. 05:05.280 --> 05:09.080 And I became now a preacher of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 05:09.460 --> 05:14.940 Now, all the things that tell me already that the early church actually, 05:15.340 --> 05:16.180 it developed. 05:16.820 --> 05:21.360 But always I want to clear in the minds of Christians that were never Catholic 05:21.360 --> 05:21.840 before. 05:22.140 --> 05:24.180 Maybe they were born in Christian homes. 05:24.740 --> 05:30.400 I want to clear for every Christian born in a Christian home that Catholicism, 05:31.960 --> 05:34.220 Roman Catholicism, never was a Christian church. 05:34.980 --> 05:40.220 That Catholicism came out from the Christian church, not as a church. 05:40.680 --> 05:46.460 It came out as individuals, people, but not as a church. 05:46.600 --> 05:47.440 I see. 05:48.240 --> 05:48.660 Babylon. 05:48.860 --> 05:49.360 That is. 05:49.900 --> 05:50.920 Informed Babylon. 05:51.080 --> 05:52.300 It became Babylon. 05:52.600 --> 05:57.900 The individuals that among them you have many or I would say almost every so-called 05:57.900 --> 06:02.160 early fathers because in the readings, in their readings, they were the 06:02.160 --> 06:08.180 originators of most of the heresies and perversions of the gospel that Catholicism 06:08.180 --> 06:11.280 embraced officially later in their councils. 06:11.680 --> 06:11.860 Yes. 06:12.280 --> 06:16.020 Do you see this prediction in 1 Timothy 4? 06:16.340 --> 06:16.800 Yes. 06:17.840 --> 06:25.800 You know, it's so clear that it almost sounds as if it's a graphic, word by word, 06:25.920 --> 06:27.140 blow by blow description. 06:27.400 --> 06:28.860 A very dramatic description. 06:29.020 --> 06:29.600 That is correct. 06:29.760 --> 06:30.120 Yes, sir. 06:30.360 --> 06:31.700 Of what you're talking about. 06:32.380 --> 06:33.780 Would you want to read that for us? 06:33.800 --> 06:34.160 Yes. 06:34.320 --> 06:35.240 1 Timothy, yes. 06:35.240 --> 06:37.560 1 Timothy 4, 1 through 4. 06:37.900 --> 06:43.660 This says, Now the spirit speak especially that in the later times some shall depart 06:43.660 --> 06:48.600 from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, 06:49.060 --> 06:54.260 speaking lies and hypocrisy, having their consents seared with hot iron, 06:54.640 --> 07:00.500 forbidden to marry, and commanding to abstain from meat which God has created to 07:00.500 --> 07:04.800 be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 07:04.800 --> 07:05.540 Definitely. 07:05.880 --> 07:06.840 It's Catholicism here. 07:07.340 --> 07:07.880 Yes. 07:07.940 --> 07:08.580 It's celibacy. 07:12.860 --> 07:21.580 Now, God, being God, knowing everything that would happen, he wanted to warn the 07:21.580 --> 07:24.460 congregation, the church, as to what would happen. 07:24.460 --> 07:25.880 And the dangers coming, yes. 07:26.120 --> 07:32.900 Now, there are people who feel like that if you're a preacher, you ought not 07:32.900 --> 07:33.860 disturb people. 07:33.860 --> 07:36.060 You ought not to upset the apple cart. 07:36.180 --> 07:41.980 You ought not to delve into things that make people uncomfortable, especially 07:41.980 --> 07:49.600 talking about a religion that at one time was Christian, fell away, that are 07:49.600 --> 07:55.240 actually teaching doctrines of devils, are seducing spirits, and that they're 07:55.240 --> 08:00.060 liars, they're hypocrites, and their conscience, not only can they lie, 08:00.120 --> 08:04.120 but they don't even have a feeling because their conscience were, as it were, 08:04.380 --> 08:05.820 sealed with a hot iron. 08:06.260 --> 08:08.740 Now, I will even say this much. 08:09.600 --> 08:15.420 The people that were among the Christians, you know, pausing as Christians, 08:15.980 --> 08:20.040 because actually that is what happened today in reverse direction. 08:20.380 --> 08:24.960 And reverse direction in these last days is happening already. 08:25.320 --> 08:30.360 There are people inside the church, inside the Christian church, pausing as 08:30.360 --> 08:36.340 Christian without never have, never, never have any personal experience of 08:36.340 --> 08:38.500 redemption through Jesus Christ. 08:39.340 --> 08:43.920 That means that today we are confronting almost the same situation. 08:44.440 --> 08:50.820 I walk into many places as I walk out of the Roman Catholic institution, 08:51.380 --> 08:55.000 and I found out myself, as a matter of fact, even before I became a Christian, 08:55.160 --> 09:00.760 being a Jesuit priest, I walk into many churches, there are so-called Christian 09:00.760 --> 09:08.140 churches, and I walk into, and they will embrace me as a brother in Christ, 09:08.380 --> 09:09.940 being a Jesuit priest. 09:10.880 --> 09:16.500 Now that is how confusing the situation is between religion and Christianity. 09:16.820 --> 09:19.480 And the Bible is very clear in this matter. 09:20.060 --> 09:23.760 It sets a difference between Christianity and religion. 09:24.480 --> 09:34.580 Now, when you expose Babylon, and expose this false religion, what you are really 09:34.580 --> 09:38.400 doing is shedding light upon Jerusalem, instead of Rome. 09:38.540 --> 09:42.520 You are bringing people back, this is what we use the word restoration, trying to 09:42.520 --> 09:44.760 restore what the early church did. 09:44.760 --> 09:49.720 Now, if people feel this is not a valid ministry, brothers and sisters, 09:50.300 --> 09:58.100 if you feel that this is too, perhaps, this man has hate in his heart, 09:58.220 --> 10:03.840 or that he is a belligerent person, or that he is using religion as a whipping 10:03.840 --> 10:08.600 post, I want you to remember what it says here, in verse 6. 10:08.600 --> 10:15.640 If you put the brethren in remembrance of these things, you shall be a good minister 10:15.640 --> 10:16.580 of Jesus Christ. 10:17.280 --> 10:22.160 Now, no one in the Roman church can stand in judgment and say no one tried to warn 10:22.160 --> 10:22.420 us. 10:22.760 --> 10:27.680 No one cared enough about us to alarm us as to the darkness. 10:28.960 --> 10:31.700 For instance, the mass, you mentioned the mass. 10:31.700 --> 10:37.660 It said that one of the things that Babylon would do, would be to change and 10:37.660 --> 10:42.400 corrupt the original fellowship of the Christians. 10:42.800 --> 10:47.200 Now, we look at the Lord's Supper, drinking the grape juice, which is fruit 10:47.200 --> 10:52.820 of the vine, not brandy or gin or vodka, and simple unleavened bread to remember. 10:52.920 --> 10:54.900 It's the only thing Jesus asked us to do, to remember Him. 10:54.900 --> 10:56.780 The only thing He said. 10:57.000 --> 10:57.980 In my memory. 10:58.360 --> 10:59.440 In his memory. 10:59.700 --> 11:00.020 In his memory. 11:00.020 --> 11:02.720 And that, in the hand of Jesus, was a beautiful ceremony. 11:02.980 --> 11:04.620 But the mass is different. 11:05.100 --> 11:10.420 For instance, let me briefly state what the meaning of the mass is. 11:10.500 --> 11:15.880 According to Catholic dogma, not according to your opinion or someone else's opinion, 11:16.080 --> 11:21.420 not even of the liberal Catholic mind, but according to Catholic dogma, 11:21.900 --> 11:27.200 the mass is the repetition of the sacrifice of the person of Jesus Christ. 11:27.320 --> 11:28.160 The repetition. 11:28.600 --> 11:34.060 The Council of Trent makes this doctrine, this teaching, a dogma. 11:34.520 --> 11:35.960 That the mass is the repetition. 11:36.160 --> 11:40.880 What that means is, by the time that the priest offers the horse and the altar, 11:41.400 --> 11:45.440 that horse, that wine, no longer is bread and wine. 11:45.440 --> 11:52.040 It is the flesh, the deity, the soul, and the blood of Jesus Christ. 11:52.680 --> 11:56.620 Now, that is contrary, totally, totally, fully contrary. 11:56.980 --> 11:58.200 I will say this much. 11:58.600 --> 12:02.640 As I was convicted of the Holy Spirit, reading the Scripture in chapter 6 of the 12:02.640 --> 12:07.480 Gospel of John, where Roman Catholicism tried to enforce and persuade people to 12:07.480 --> 12:12.720 believe that Jesus was referring to eat His flesh and His blood and drink His 12:12.720 --> 12:17.000 blood in a literal way, I will do this. 12:17.520 --> 12:22.480 John Knox, the founder of the Presbyterian, once said, the mass is a 12:22.480 --> 12:22.940 blasphemy. 12:23.160 --> 12:24.200 And he was a priest. 12:24.380 --> 12:26.680 He was a priest converted to the Gospel. 12:26.920 --> 12:29.280 And he said, the mass is a blasphemy. 12:29.500 --> 12:34.340 When I came out from the Roman Catholic abomination of the mass, when Christ set 12:34.340 --> 12:39.880 me free from that abomination, then I became convicted that the mass is 12:39.880 --> 12:45.520 not only a blasphemy, it is the greatest blasphemy against Christ, His sacrifice. 12:46.160 --> 12:50.180 You see, as I was convicted, I was brought to the book of Hebrews. 12:50.320 --> 12:54.060 Let me show you where the Holy Spirit brought me to the conviction. 12:54.620 --> 13:00.200 As I read in Hebrews, you can, chapter 9 of Hebrews... 13:00.200 --> 13:00.600 Verse 28. 13:00.740 --> 13:01.760 That is correct. 13:01.880 --> 13:03.100 This is what we see. 13:03.100 --> 13:07.440 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many. 13:07.700 --> 13:08.380 Only once. 13:08.680 --> 13:12.180 Do you know how many times the mass has been performed right today? 13:12.500 --> 13:12.980 Right now. 13:13.320 --> 13:18.900 As we are talking right now, as people are witnessing us and watching us here, 13:18.900 --> 13:26.020 the mass, the Roman Catholic mass, has been performed 168,000. 13:28.140 --> 13:34.520 168,000 masses all over the world in 24 hours around the clock. 13:34.540 --> 13:36.220 So the crucifixion is not done. 13:36.480 --> 13:39.100 The resurrection is not yet. 13:39.740 --> 13:43.360 You see, this is a defeat for the gospel. 13:43.820 --> 13:45.880 It's a defeat if you were to accept that. 13:45.880 --> 13:48.160 Because it's a defeat for Christianity. 13:48.320 --> 13:49.920 It's a defeat for the church. 13:50.540 --> 13:54.020 Because they keep sacrificing the person. 13:54.060 --> 13:55.920 And that's why Christ is still on the cross. 13:56.000 --> 13:57.980 The crosses show him still hanging there. 13:58.200 --> 13:59.700 It's not an empty cross. 13:59.900 --> 14:00.940 He's still on that cross. 14:00.940 --> 14:01.560 He's still on that. 14:01.800 --> 14:04.680 The priest is still sacrificing him every day. 14:05.260 --> 14:07.420 In light of the fact that he died once. 14:07.860 --> 14:09.340 And it's strange, Dr. Ribeiro. 14:09.500 --> 14:13.460 The thing that I marvel about is that, you know, I've been a New Testament 14:13.460 --> 14:14.500 student for years. 14:14.500 --> 14:20.520 And it seems like... I was making a beeline for Hebrews 9, 28 while you were 14:20.520 --> 14:20.860 talking. 14:22.580 --> 14:24.320 To substantiate what you said. 14:24.720 --> 14:26.300 And here you beat me to it. 14:26.320 --> 14:27.620 You were thinking in the same wavelength. 14:28.340 --> 14:33.980 I really believe if we could destroy the denominational barriers and tear down the 14:33.980 --> 14:36.020 sheepfolds that divide all of these people. 14:36.560 --> 14:40.240 We could flow together so well as one people in Christ. 14:40.700 --> 14:41.740 There would be such unity. 14:41.840 --> 14:42.540 And what is written. 14:42.540 --> 14:44.180 If we just go by what is written in the Bible. 14:44.920 --> 14:49.760 But, you know, the Protestants have their creeds just as much as the Catholics do. 14:49.760 --> 14:51.520 They have added and taken away. 14:51.540 --> 14:51.900 They have added to the Bible. 14:52.780 --> 14:54.100 You mentioned the crucifixion. 14:54.200 --> 14:55.880 He says in Hebrews 6, verse 6. 14:56.000 --> 14:56.180 Yes. 14:56.320 --> 14:58.320 If they fall away, they renew to them again. 14:58.900 --> 15:01.300 It's impossible to renew them again to repentance. 15:01.760 --> 15:05.240 Seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh. 15:05.540 --> 15:07.940 Not even two times, only once. 15:08.300 --> 15:08.480 Yes. 15:08.540 --> 15:08.800 Right. 15:08.960 --> 15:09.520 Only once. 15:09.940 --> 15:11.240 I will say this much. 15:11.240 --> 15:17.560 I have a book here, Brother Darin, that was written on the very people and 15:17.560 --> 15:20.960 the life of the very people that refused to partake of the Mass. 15:21.320 --> 15:22.660 They were put to death. 15:23.000 --> 15:24.320 For refusing to take of the Mass? 15:24.420 --> 15:25.520 For refusing to take the Mass. 15:25.780 --> 15:26.100 Yes. 15:26.260 --> 15:30.700 They were put to death on the edicts of several Popes throughout the ages. 15:30.700 --> 15:35.920 How many people do you think the Albigensies, the Waldensies, the Hugonots, 15:36.140 --> 15:38.240 the... in Europe... 15:38.240 --> 15:42.720 How many millions do you believe have been put to death? 15:43.060 --> 15:48.680 Actually, more than 68... 67 to 68 millions that were put to death, 15:48.880 --> 15:53.840 a total, during more than 800 years of inquisition by the Roman Catholic 15:53.840 --> 15:54.480 institution. 15:54.700 --> 15:55.560 800 years? 15:55.680 --> 15:56.900 Yes, 800 years. 15:57.640 --> 16:00.420 Well, that doesn't mean the inquisition ceased. 16:00.540 --> 16:01.780 The inquisition never ceased. 16:01.780 --> 16:06.740 The inquisition, you can see that I show you this book, a memorial of the English 16:06.740 --> 16:09.820 martyrs in Spain, in England, in Europe, all over. 16:10.120 --> 16:16.040 But then, at the same side, you have a 20th century testimony of a priest that 16:16.040 --> 16:19.120 was murdered, as I said before, in a program before. 16:19.240 --> 16:22.220 Well, haven't they changed the name of the inquisition to the Holy Office? 16:22.240 --> 16:23.600 To the Holy Office, that is correct. 16:23.600 --> 16:28.300 Well, the Holy Office still is responsible for what the inquisition did. 16:28.400 --> 16:32.620 It's just that the inquisition carried such a bad connotation that people didn't 16:32.620 --> 16:34.380 want to use that term anymore. 16:34.380 --> 16:38.800 Yes, well, the change has been now, the Holy Office, what used to be the Holy 16:38.800 --> 16:44.060 Office, the office of the inquisition, the general inquisitor for all over the 16:44.060 --> 16:49.040 world, that office now is changed to the name, still the same office in the 16:49.040 --> 16:53.960 Vatican, but the name has changed to the Office for the Preservation of the 16:53.960 --> 16:54.840 Catholic Faith. 16:55.260 --> 16:56.820 Yes, right. 16:56.960 --> 16:58.560 That is the Holy Office, yes. 16:58.560 --> 17:00.320 Now, you mentioned Babylon. 17:01.420 --> 17:07.620 Of course, John was amazed when he, it says that he left the church in the 17:07.620 --> 17:14.480 wilderness where she fled, and the dragon opened his mouth in a flood, which no 17:14.480 --> 17:17.960 doubt was false doctrine, the flood that came out to swallow her up. 17:18.140 --> 17:22.320 Yes, the drunkenness that even the angels speak, yes, to get people drunk. 17:22.320 --> 17:23.720 And so the church was lost. 17:24.240 --> 17:30.140 But when John came back into the wilderness in Revelation, it said he 17:30.140 --> 17:30.680 wandered. 17:31.160 --> 17:36.640 In chapter 17, I saw the woman drunken with the blood of saints, with the blood 17:36.640 --> 17:37.440 of martyrs. 17:37.500 --> 17:38.060 Martyrs. 17:38.100 --> 17:39.680 86 million of them. 17:40.060 --> 17:40.620 68. 17:41.480 --> 17:44.000 68 million of Jesus. 17:44.140 --> 17:45.680 And when I saw her, I wandered. 17:45.800 --> 17:46.120 Yes. 17:46.120 --> 17:49.680 It says in the King James Version with great admiration, but in the Greek, 17:50.320 --> 17:51.220 it was astonishment. 17:51.500 --> 17:51.780 Yes. 17:51.900 --> 17:57.600 That the church that was so beautiful, now has been corrupted into such an ugly 17:57.600 --> 17:58.000 prostitute. 17:58.000 --> 18:03.080 Well, I will say, not the church of Christ, not the church of Christ, 18:03.180 --> 18:04.120 but the religion. 18:04.400 --> 18:05.800 Would you think it was the Judaizers? 18:05.880 --> 18:06.800 Yes, that is correct. 18:06.800 --> 18:08.420 Did the Judaizers have anything to do with this corruption? 18:08.420 --> 18:13.260 That is correct, because many of the Jews, they infiltrated the church in the early 18:13.260 --> 18:13.680 days. 18:14.040 --> 18:17.300 You can see that by reading the book of Acts, chapter 15 already. 18:17.940 --> 18:23.080 And then we have throughout history, that even the Roman Empire has used Jews 18:23.080 --> 18:24.320 as spies. 18:25.220 --> 18:25.960 There is plenty. 18:26.540 --> 18:32.900 Josephus is one of the historians that bring about documentation on the fact that 18:32.900 --> 18:37.080 the Roman emperors and the senators, they were using Jews to infiltrate the 18:37.080 --> 18:37.440 church. 18:38.100 --> 18:39.400 Mostly as Christians. 18:40.120 --> 18:44.680 They developed and paved the way for Roman Catholicism to come up later. 18:45.380 --> 18:46.820 Now, that is what I see here. 18:47.340 --> 18:49.580 Along with this, I would like to quote you this. 18:49.680 --> 18:53.580 I have a very dramatic experience not too long ago in California. 18:54.220 --> 19:02.020 I was called by an Indian lady in Carmel, the city of Carmel in California. 19:02.580 --> 19:06.140 It is North California, the city of Carmel. 19:06.140 --> 19:11.820 If you see your geography, you will find there is one of the Roman Catholic 19:11.820 --> 19:15.700 missions there in Carmel, right in the city of Carmel. 19:15.940 --> 19:21.540 It was one of the oldest Roman Catholic missions established by a monk called Fr. 19:21.880 --> 19:23.100 Junipero Serra. 19:24.000 --> 19:28.560 Now, Junipero Serra established most of the Roman Catholic missions in California. 19:29.320 --> 19:33.640 And when this Indian lady called me, she said, are you familiar? 19:33.940 --> 19:36.180 You must be familiar with Junipero Serra. 19:36.220 --> 19:37.180 I said, yes, of course. 19:37.460 --> 19:43.040 I was a Jesuit priest, and I was able to be acquainted with his files and records 19:43.040 --> 19:43.720 in the Vatican. 19:44.240 --> 19:49.640 As I went through then, because that was part of my mission, to know all this data, 19:49.840 --> 19:51.220 especially in the United States. 19:51.840 --> 19:57.800 And she said, I need your help, because I understand that you now are a 19:57.800 --> 19:58.220 Christian. 19:58.220 --> 20:01.260 Now, she knew there was a difference now. 20:01.500 --> 20:04.580 She read Alberto, the first part of my testimony. 20:05.380 --> 20:16.260 And the Indian are what they call the Indians that are in that north part of the 20:16.260 --> 20:18.260 north of California. 20:18.700 --> 20:24.180 And they have still the descendants of that particular tribe. 20:24.180 --> 20:31.260 As I arrived to El Carmel City, we met, and they said, what we need from 20:31.260 --> 20:36.140 you is to help us to stop the Pope from coming here. 20:36.920 --> 20:38.280 I said, how I can do that? 20:38.620 --> 20:40.680 How I can stop the Pope from coming here? 20:41.660 --> 20:43.120 They said, you can. 20:43.300 --> 20:46.440 If you help us, we can stop him. 20:46.860 --> 20:49.840 And I said, what do you want from me? 20:49.840 --> 20:51.980 All what I can give to you is the Gospel. 20:52.460 --> 20:54.140 All what I can offer you is Christ. 20:54.740 --> 20:57.740 Forget about stopping the Pope from coming here. 20:58.300 --> 21:02.820 You come to the knowledge of Christ as your personal Lord and Savior, 21:03.140 --> 21:07.180 you will be free from the Pope, and you will have nothing to do no longer 21:07.180 --> 21:07.880 with the Pope. 21:08.480 --> 21:10.060 They said, but we need something. 21:10.680 --> 21:14.720 We need him not to come here, because he is a curse. 21:15.040 --> 21:16.720 He brings curses to our people. 21:16.720 --> 21:23.740 The Indians, now the Indians after 500 years of Roman Catholic teaching, 21:24.400 --> 21:32.900 are still not sure yet of whom Catholic religion is, what Catholic religion is all 21:32.900 --> 21:33.200 about. 21:33.640 --> 21:40.040 They tell me that their people were massacred by Junipero Serra. 21:40.040 --> 21:46.500 Over 10,000 Indian children, mothers and fathers, were massacred. 21:47.000 --> 21:53.400 And she brought me to the pavement of the parking lot of the mission, of the Roman 21:53.400 --> 21:54.700 Catholic parish. 21:55.360 --> 22:02.380 In that big parking lot, she said, there are my ancestors buried in one tomb. 22:03.540 --> 22:06.380 They were massacred in one morning. 22:06.380 --> 22:11.260 They all were massacred because they refused to accept Catholic teaching. 22:11.640 --> 22:13.700 That happened 500 years ago. 22:14.480 --> 22:22.580 Why still the people, Catholic people, are being so deprived of trusting solely, 22:22.900 --> 22:25.180 solely in the Holy Scripture? 22:25.380 --> 22:25.700 Why? 22:26.420 --> 22:26.840 Yes. 22:27.520 --> 22:31.220 Do you think that Satan has brought a great delusion? 22:32.000 --> 22:37.540 It says in 1 Thessalonians, actually it's a 2 Thessalonian letter. 22:37.980 --> 22:38.200 Yes. 22:38.240 --> 22:39.520 You know, the question is why? 22:40.440 --> 22:44.340 Well, you take the man of sin in 2 Thessalonians. 22:44.660 --> 22:45.340 Chapter 2. 22:45.460 --> 22:46.560 Yes, Chapter 2. 22:46.700 --> 22:46.840 Yes. 22:47.140 --> 22:52.420 What it says here is that the day will come, there will be a falling away in 22:52.420 --> 22:52.540 verse 3. 22:52.540 --> 22:53.020 That's correct. 22:53.700 --> 22:57.980 The son of perdition who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called 22:57.980 --> 22:58.460 God. 22:58.460 --> 23:02.860 He said in verse 5, remember you, not that when I was with you I told you 23:02.860 --> 23:03.380 these things. 23:04.140 --> 23:11.240 But he says here that in verse 11, verse 10, it says that with all 23:11.240 --> 23:14.600 deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish. 23:14.740 --> 23:15.420 In them that perish. 23:15.420 --> 23:17.380 Because they receive not the love of the truth. 23:17.540 --> 23:19.800 The love of the truth, not just the truth. 23:20.140 --> 23:21.400 The love of the truth. 23:21.960 --> 23:24.440 Love and truth are indivisible. 23:25.640 --> 23:26.100 Exactly. 23:27.220 --> 23:30.300 Love rejoices, not in iniquity, but in the truth. 23:30.400 --> 23:30.980 In the truth. 23:31.640 --> 23:34.880 And God gave them a great delusion that they should believe a lie. 23:35.020 --> 23:35.360 Yes. 23:35.480 --> 23:36.980 That's what you and I are up against. 23:37.100 --> 23:37.460 Yes. 23:38.540 --> 23:39.700 A great delusion. 23:40.020 --> 23:40.420 Yes. 23:41.420 --> 23:45.100 Not only that, but Babylon is the mother of even Protestants. 23:45.880 --> 23:47.380 Protestants still love their mother. 23:47.580 --> 23:50.700 I'm amazed that Protestants, most of them... 23:50.700 --> 23:51.320 They are going back. 23:51.440 --> 23:52.420 They are going back to the mother. 23:52.420 --> 23:53.300 They are going back to the mother. 23:53.300 --> 23:55.520 This is your ecumenical today. 23:55.700 --> 23:59.440 What on earth is going to happen to you and others like you and myself, 23:59.440 --> 24:02.360 if that ever comes to pass? 24:02.860 --> 24:04.240 They all go back to the mother. 24:04.740 --> 24:05.180 Well... 24:05.180 --> 24:08.200 Are we going to have another European Middle Ages? 24:08.620 --> 24:09.060 Inquisition? 24:09.360 --> 24:11.380 Well, it will be an inquisition. 24:11.480 --> 24:12.140 It's prophesied. 24:12.400 --> 24:13.980 But nevertheless, I believe this. 24:14.080 --> 24:15.640 The Christians are not to fear. 24:16.140 --> 24:17.940 The Christians, the believers, are not to fear. 24:17.940 --> 24:24.400 Because even the Israelites, they were even, until the 10th plague, they were 24:24.400 --> 24:28.100 preserved and protected under the blood of the Lamb. 24:28.400 --> 24:28.900 Yes. 24:29.020 --> 24:29.760 Isn't that beautiful? 24:30.360 --> 24:34.220 And under the blood of Jesus Christ, you can be protected too. 24:34.980 --> 24:37.160 Every Christian can be protected. 24:37.580 --> 24:39.960 Every person that comes to Christ. 24:40.520 --> 24:42.060 That is marvelous. 24:42.320 --> 24:43.580 That is gracious. 24:43.580 --> 24:50.440 Even in the plagues of Deuteronomy and in the book of Psalms, it said that these 24:50.440 --> 24:52.500 plagues will not touch you. 24:52.640 --> 24:52.880 Yes. 24:53.240 --> 24:54.660 They will not come near to us. 24:54.700 --> 24:56.660 The plagues of Egypt will not come near to you. 24:56.780 --> 24:58.340 Not even AIDS. 24:58.740 --> 24:59.420 Not AIDS, no. 24:59.540 --> 25:00.060 Not even AIDS. 25:00.060 --> 25:00.320 Not even AIDS. 25:01.020 --> 25:09.220 You know, when you speak of the persecution you get, I understood some of 25:09.220 --> 25:11.640 that in my latest writing on the book. 25:11.800 --> 25:12.720 On AIDS. 25:12.720 --> 25:13.020 Yes. 25:13.020 --> 25:14.020 And the curse of AIDS. 25:14.080 --> 25:15.080 A wonderful message. 25:15.380 --> 25:17.740 A prophetical message that you brought in that book. 25:17.940 --> 25:18.200 Yes. 25:18.340 --> 25:19.200 I thank you for that. 25:19.220 --> 25:19.440 Yes. 25:19.520 --> 25:20.120 Because... 25:20.120 --> 25:26.800 And that put me to believe that we are so close in this revelation. 25:27.040 --> 25:33.380 Because a year before, I was speaking about the prophetical meaning of AIDS when 25:33.380 --> 25:35.540 I now read your book on AIDS. 25:35.540 --> 25:44.440 So you were led to ascertain that God forewarned plagues of the AIDS nature... 25:44.440 --> 25:44.780 Yes. 25:44.940 --> 25:46.760 ...upon a godless country. 25:46.980 --> 25:47.340 Yes. 25:48.140 --> 25:51.860 By reading your scripture and then the book just confirmed... 25:51.860 --> 25:55.200 ...mainly to punish the homosexuals and the lesbians. 25:55.840 --> 26:01.800 Because if we read before in 1 Timothy chapter 4 as you read about forbidden to 26:01.800 --> 26:07.940 marry, celibacy has been one of the greatest, most powerful nests of getting 26:07.940 --> 26:10.660 this plague at work. 26:11.400 --> 26:12.520 It's amazing. 26:12.800 --> 26:13.880 Absolutely amazing. 26:14.400 --> 26:17.040 I know we have a battle. 26:17.560 --> 26:19.520 We invite you to join with us. 26:20.160 --> 26:21.920 Now, Christ said, I'll draw men. 26:22.060 --> 26:26.120 This is not for those that are not... did not have the manhood. 26:26.300 --> 26:27.260 He said, I'll draw men. 26:27.680 --> 26:27.780 Yes. 26:28.380 --> 26:31.280 God wants men to act like men and women to act like women. 26:31.960 --> 26:35.560 And we invite you and solicit you for prayers for Dr. Rivera. 26:35.980 --> 26:38.740 A tremendous battle, the conflict that we have. 26:38.760 --> 26:41.460 And we're going to go to heaven and rest from our labors. 26:41.660 --> 26:41.940 Yes. 26:42.260 --> 26:44.500 But you know, you have to labor in order to rest from them. 26:44.600 --> 26:44.780 Amen. 26:45.320 --> 26:49.280 And we pray for Dr. Rivera as he labors in the truth. 26:49.280 --> 26:52.680 Out on the front lines, let's join with him. 26:53.040 --> 26:58.280 And let's pray that God will give us the victory in this day and age and eternally 26:58.280 --> 26:59.120 in the world to come. 26:59.780 --> 27:02.000 See you next week on the Preach the Word broadcast. 27:02.620 --> 27:02.820 Amen.