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I'm your host, Greg Szymanski,
and we're here on GCN for two solid hours,

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4 to 6 p.m.

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Central.

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And I'll tell you what, this show has been
called the Alternative to the Alternative

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Media, and that's because we get behind
the scenes, and one of the reasons is we

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try to really uncover who the real
spiritual controllers of the New World

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Order are.

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And with that, what we do is we don't
stop, and we go to, basically,

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right to the cobblestones of Rome in the
Vatican and explore that issue in depth.

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I said the other day that if I spent every
one of my shows for the next ten years

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talking about this subject, it would not
equal what really needs to be done to

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expose the Vatican and what we're going to
show today, the evil Jesuit order,

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because for all the years and the time and
the money they have spent to keep this

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from the American people, right now we are
in the crosshairs of a possible

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destruction.

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And let me just quote this.

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This is from a book that Bill Hughes
wrote, and he's been on my show,

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and he said this in his book, The Secret
Terrorists, The Jesuits have always hated

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America and everything this country stands
for, and they work tirelessly to destroy

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this country.

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Now, today my guest, and this is a show
that I want you people to listen to for

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two hours because it's vital, I have on
with me, my special guest is Pastor Gerard

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Bouffard, and he's a former Catholic
priest, a former bishop of Guatemala,

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and he's in Canada right now.

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And he's going to talk about the truth
about the Catholic Church, about the

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Vatican, and also bring up, you've heard
this name before if you've listened to my

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show, and this is the late Father Alberto
Rivera, a Jesuit priest who actually told

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how the Jesuits operate, how they
infiltrate other religions, and he was

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also one of those people, and he began to
out the Jesuits in the Vatican,

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and for that, many people say he was
killed.

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Well, Pastor Bouffard was a friend of
Alberto Rivera, and is here to talk about

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him also, about his past, about the
truthfulness he was trying to tell,

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in light of many people who said that
Alberto Rivera was not telling the truth,

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and was under a campaign of discreditation
by the Vatican.

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Now, my second guest is Eric Phelps,
and he's been on my show before,

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because he's one of the premier
researchers in this area, and he knows

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Pastor Bouffard quite well, has
interviewed him many times, and in fact,

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he's going to act as the main interviewer
in this, I'm going to be more of a

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moderator, because I want you people to
get the full truth.

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And these two gentlemen together,
I think, can shed some light on what we've

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been trying to show, and that is that the
Vatican is the key behind the whole New

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World Order, and the destruction of this
country, and they use the Jesuit order as

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their henchman, so to speak.

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And if you go to my website, by the way,
today I have an article on there,

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and I asked the question, was JFK's secret
society speech one reason why the Vatican

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orchestrated his murder?

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Now, on September 12, 1960, President John
F.

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Kennedy spoke to the Greater Houston
Ministerial Association, saying

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emphatically that no religious leader,
including the Pope, had the right to

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control his actions and influence the
foreign and domestic policies of this

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country in any way, shape, or form.

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For his strong words in his speech,
denouncing secret societies and religious

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infiltration, some researchers of the JFK
assassination, including my guest Eric

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Phelps today, claims this speech set him
up for the murder by the Vatican New World

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Order controllers through the Jesuit
order.

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Now, on my website, it gives a rundown of
that speech, and then I list the actual

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extreme oath, the fourth vow of the
Jesuits, which was printed in 18... first

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published in 1883.

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And that's the unedited version,
so go to that.

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And you'll see exactly what these higher
level Jesuits are now professing,

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and when they take this fourth vow.

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Eric knows about it, he's going to talk
about it.

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And with that, Pastor Gerard Buffard's on
the line.

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With that, let me introduce Eric Phelps.

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Eric, how are you today?

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Pleasure to be with you, Greg,
and your listeners.

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Well, today we're going to spend two
hours, and we're going to spend two hours,

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and I'm going to rely on your direction,
your care, your...

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I tell you what, you have been looking for
the truth for so long, and I'm so glad you

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brought on the pastor here to verify a
number of things.

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And I think what we should do is have you
introduce him properly, because you know

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him well, and enter into the first
questions that you think are important.

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And I'll be right by your side here
throughout these two hours.

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Go ahead.

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Okay.

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I'd like to introduce my friend and guest
on your show today, Greg, Pastor Gerard

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Buffard.

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Welcome, Gerard.

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Welcome.

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Welcome you, Eric, and welcome everyone in
here.

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A pleasure to have you.

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Pastor Buffard resides in Quebec,
so his native language is French,

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so he does have a broken accent.

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Well, I can understand him pretty well,
so don't worry about that, because I think

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the message will come through loud and
clear.

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Eric, can you tell us a little bit about
Pastor Buffard's background, and lead us

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up to how you met him?

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Okay.

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When I was in a debate with a couple of
gentlemen from England with regard to

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Alberto Rivera being legitimate or not,
I was told of Pastor Buffard by an

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additional email person.

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So I contacted him, and I asked if I could
come to visit him.

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So I went to visit him a couple of years
ago, and spent a few days with him.

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He showed me his broken bishop's ring that
he had when he was bishop of Guatemala,

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and his sword from the Knights of Columbus
that he had when he was a member of that.

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So we traveled around, and he pretty much
bore his soul to me.

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So after two or three days of spending
time with him, and his familiarity with

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Alberto Rivera, I took that as a very
important piece of evidence that Alberto

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was indeed for real.

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So Gerard has helped me very much in that
area.

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But more so than that, Gerard knows the
Lord.

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He's a born-again, Bible-believing
Christian man.

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He's a pastor.

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He preaches the Word of God wherever he
goes, and he also offers videos.

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So he's quite at home in talking about the
Lord, the Bible, and his pastor.

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We've got two minutes before this first
break.

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I want to ask the pastor some questions
about Alberto Rivera.

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You can do that in the next break.

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I don't think I want to get into it right
now.

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We only have two minutes.

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But maybe you can give us a little
background of how many years he was in the

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Catholic Church, and also I believe he was
bishop of Guatemala, correct?

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Yes.

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I'm not sure to answer that question.

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Maybe, Gerard, maybe you'd like to start
about your beginnings there as a priest?

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Yes.

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I was doing my study in Rome because I was
an orphan boy in the Catholic Church in

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Quebec.

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When we are adopted people, you know,
we are not allowed to become a priest.

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But I had to go to Rome to do my study,
and I was six years in Rome.

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And to pay my study, I was working in the
Vatican.

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That's why I had that opportunity to work
inside the Vatican.

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And the office they named that,
in this time, they had to name that the

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Holy Office.

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In 1983, they changed that for the Office
of Protection of the Faith.

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And I was there.

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And after that, when the Pope came in,
John Paul II, came in Mexico for the

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conference of the bishop of Latin America,
I was traveling with him.

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And during this traveling, we had a
discussion together.

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And in his way back from Rome,
we talked very hardly in the plane.

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And when I reached Rome, I take the plane,
and I'm coming back in Quebec.

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And I get safe in Quebec.

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And I leave the church in 1977.

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And after that, I'm born again.

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I'm born again, and now I'm serving the
Lord in the gospel.

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Well, listen, Pastor, I have to take a
break right now.

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And Eric, a four-minute break.

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But I want to get back and find out what
you learned about the Vatican,

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why you left the church.

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And also, all these things about Father
Alberto Rivera.

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We'll be back in four minutes on the
Investigative Journal.

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Okay, we're back for our first segment.

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I should say, our last segment in the
first half hour of the Investigative

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Journal.

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My two special guests are former pastor
and Catholic priest, former Bishop Gerard

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Buffard, who lives now in Canada.

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And Eric Phelps, the author of Vatican
Assassins.

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And his third edition will be coming out
shortly.

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And it's something that you must get once
it's out.

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Because you know, something in our quest
to get at who are the real spiritual

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controllers of the New World Order.

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Pastor Buffard is going to tell you some
things, why he left the Catholic Church.

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Also verifying, he was a good friend of
Father Alberto Rivera.

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Who, if you're not familiar with this
former Jesuit priest, talks about how they

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infiltrate other religions.

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How the Jesuit order is more than just
what they say, God-fearing men.

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But actually, the henchmen behind the New
World Order and bringing down the

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destruction of this country.

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With that, Pastor, we left off.

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You've been working in Rome for six years.

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Communicated and spoke with the Pope on
numerous occasions.

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And I want to get into why you then left
the Church in the late 70s.

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And how I'm going to do this...

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Eric, you've talked to Pastor for a long
time.

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And I want you to go back and give our
listeners an insight.

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And ask the questions that you would have
asked when you first met him about why he

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left the Church.

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And I think through you and him speaking,
I think we'll learn a lot.

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Go ahead.

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Okay, I wanted to, first of all,
be convinced that he was a former priest.

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So, Gerard, would you tell us about what
your bishop's ring looks like?

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And when you cease to be a bishop of
Guatemala, what do they do with the

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bishop's ring?

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Yes.

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The bishop's ring is a symbol of the power
of the bishop in his diocese.

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You know, in the bishop's ring,
just like at the Pope's ring, we have a

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seal on that.

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Our diocese seal.

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And in the past, 50 years, 60 years ago,
every letter was wrote and voiced by the

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bishop to a priest or to someone in the
diocese.

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But officially, they're supposed to have
the seal of the bishop in that.

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And that ring had the seal of the bishop
and the diocese to confirm and wrote

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official letters and papers.

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And that ring is coming from the
tradition, you know, because the first

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bishops and the first popes in the
Catholic Church, they were princes or,

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you know, they had honorific titles,
you know.

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The ring was a symbol of the power of the
bishop.

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And when the pope died, by example,
they had to broke his ring to destroy the

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seal, his official seal.

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And the new pope had to have a new seal,
a new symbol for his power.

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And they put that in the ring.

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And when I get out of the church,
I had a different seal, different ring.

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I had to broke the official one I had,
but I conserved already my bishop's seal

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because this is my...

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it has a part of my family's arms in that
seal, you know.

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That's why I conserved the seal,
because this is my property.

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Nobody, nobody else can use it in my place
because that's a personal seal.

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Now, how long were you archbishop in
Guatemala, or bishop of Guatemala,

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pardon me?

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I was 14 years priest.

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And the three last years, I was a bishop
of Esquipulas in Guatemala.

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And I was vice president of the council of
the bishop in Latin America.

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That's why I had to go to Rome and travel
with the pope in Mexico for the conference

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with the bishop of Latin America.

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And what languages were you fluent in at
that time?

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At that time, when I was in Guatemala,
I was speaking Spanish because I was 14

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years.

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I had to learn the language of the people,
but I had to learn nine different

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languages in my life.

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And so, English, French, Spanish...

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Creole, Korean, Vietnamese, and that's...

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A lot of languages.

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I don't use so much now because I don't
write.

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Before, I had like a hundred persons I had
to write every month.

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But now, you know, I speak English,
I speak Spanish, I speak Creole,

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I speak French too.

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And when I was missionary in Africa,
I had to learn five different languages

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there too.

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That's a tribe language.

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That's a Zulu language.

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When we are missionaries, we have to learn
different languages to talk to the

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peoples.

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And whereabouts were you in Africa as a
priest?

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Yeah, I was a priest in Rhodesia.

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Now, they changed the name for Zimbabwe.

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But I was five years in Rhodesia,
in Kutama Mission.

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I was the parish priest there,
and I was the priest for the Rhodesia

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brothers and for the school.

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I was serving a school with 2,500
students.

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Were you familiar with Bishop Tutu and
possibly his relationship with the

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Jesuits?

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Oh yeah, he was a Protestant Anglican
priest, and I was a Catholic priest.

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We were working in the same place,
in the same mission.

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Do you know if he was affiliated with
Jesuits?

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This one Tutu was... you know,
the Anglican priests, they are not

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officially friends with the Jesuits,
because the Anglican priests, they are

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considered by the Catholic Church as
Protestants.

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But the Jesuits, they have their power in
the Catholic Church.

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I realized a few years ago, all the prime
ministers in Canada, all the presidents of

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the big companies, and all the prime
ministers in the provinces in Canada,

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in the United States, he was formed at the
college by the Jesuits first.

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He was educated by the Jesuits.

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That's why the Jesuits tried to have the
control of the world.

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Okay, Pastor, I'm going to take a
four-minute break, and Eric, we're going

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to come back.

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I know you'll have your questions ready
again.

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We'll be back in four minutes on the
Investigative Journal.

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Okay, we're going to get right back at it
on the Investigative Journal.

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My two special guests are former Bishop of
Guatemala, Gerard Bouffard, who now

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resides in Canada, and also Eric Phelps,
author of Vatican Assassins, who's acting

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as my co-host and providing some really
stimulating questions, because he's known

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the pastor for a long time, the bishop.

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And we're getting... we just finished.

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I want to pick up right where we left off.

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And that was we established the bishop's
role as a priest.

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The number of years he worked in the
Vatican as a confidant also to the Pope,

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and then also his experience as a bishop
of Guatemala and then over in Africa.

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So go ahead, Eric.

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Pick up where you left off.

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Okay, he was a bishop in Guatemala,
and he was a priest for many years in

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Africa in the nine languages.

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Gerard, when I visited you, you showed me
your sword of the Knights of Columbus.

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Could you tell me a little bit about the
Knights of Columbus and your oath?

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And are you a fourth degree?

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Were you a fourth degree in Knights of
Columbus?

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Knights of Columbus, that's for...
normally that's for the Catholic peoples.

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They have four degrees.

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Normally the people, they take three
degrees.

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And after that, when they have the money
and they want to be in charge and have

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more power, they go to New Haven to
receive the fourth degree.

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New Haven, Connecticut?

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The fourth degree, that's just,
you know, symbolic, you know.

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But the Knights of Columbus now in Quebec,
they lose a lot of their powers,

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you know.

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Before, they was like a guard,
like a soldier for the church and taking

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honor when the bishop was visiting a place
or something like that.

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But now, no.

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They do a social thing, you know.

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They collect money to help the poor
people.

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And they are going slowly, you know,
down.

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I see.

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But this time, they was powerful.

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When we was arrested by the police,
by example, you just do the sign.

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And if the police was the Knights of
Columbus, you know, they would say,

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I don't give you a ticket, but be careful
next time, you know, I have to give you a

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ticket.

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And when the Knights of Columbus have to
go to court, by example, they do a sign,

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a special sign to the judge.

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And they arrange that because they was
brothers, you know.

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What is the relationship of the Knights of
Columbus to the Jesuits?

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Oh, the Knights of Columbus, you know,
the Jesuits, the Ignatius of Loyola found

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the Jesuits to check the church.

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You know, the general superior of the
Jesuit order, we call him the black pope.

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He is the one running the church in the
background, you know, in the shadow.

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So the black pope really runs the Vatican.

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And that's why the Jesuit order tried to
take the secret orders inside of the

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Catholic system to have more control in
the church, in the public, in the company,

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and in the world.

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They infiltrate the world by secret
orders, you know, like the Knights of

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Columbus, Freemasonry, Carbonaries.

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This all comes from Illuminati's
organization, you know, to organize the

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world's government.

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And so, if I just may add something here,
Ark, while I'm listening.

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What I'm hearing from you, Pastor,
is that the Jesuits, behind the scenes,

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through the black pope, actually control
the Vatican, correct?

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Yes, they are controlling the Vatican.

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Again, just like the things the pope says
last week, normally the Jesuits suppose

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each preach, each sermon the pope suppose,
or each conversation the pope have to do

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in public, they have to check that.

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Because they don't accept the pope do some
error, some mistake, you know.

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And they didn't check what he says,
and, you know, what is the impact of his

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last sermon in Germany, you know,
against the Muslims and everything.

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That's because the Jesuits, they never
check his preach.

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The Jesuits, they supervise everything in
the church.

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Nothing goes out if it's not supervised by
the Jesuits.

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Now you learned this from your days in
Rome, correct?

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Yes, because when I was working,
I was a rector of the Holy Office in Rome.

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I had to contact the Jesuits every day,
and I was in charge of the secret document

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in the Vatican, in the Holy Office.

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And I was not allowed to send out any
document before that document was checked

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by a Jesuit, by a Jesuit priest.

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You know, they have to supervise
everything.

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They run the church secretly.

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That's why we call their superior the
black pope, you know.

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He's the shadow of the pope.

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The shadow of the pope.

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You told me, Gerard, that you'd also been,
while you were a priest, you'd also been

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brought into the Masonic Lodge.

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You were also a Mason.

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Could you tell us about that and the
degrees that you were?

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I was in 37 degrees.

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Yes, in the Masonry.

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First of all, I had the 31st degrees.

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33 first degrees, I was a priest,
normal priest.

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But when I came in charge in the Vatican,
you know, from the first degree to the 33

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degrees, that's normal people.

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34, 35, 36 degrees.

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They are the elders of the great company,
multinational company like Air Canada,

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anyway, traveling company banks,
big like a Ford company in the United

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States, Chrysler.

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They are in the 36 degrees.

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In 37 degrees, they are all members of the
clergy.

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Roman Catholic, Jews, Protestant,
Hindu, Muslim, they are all in the 36,

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37 degrees.

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They are all from religious centers.

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So would you say that all the high priests
in the papacy as well as the high

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Protestants like Billy Graham and the high
Muslims like the Al-Sadd dynasty and the

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high Jews, the high Jewish chief rabbis,
would you not say that the majority are

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all Masons?

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No, not the majority of them.

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But each religion, they had to have a
representative in the Freemasonry degree,

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in 36, 37 degrees.

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38 degrees, they are more closer,
you know.

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We don't know at 37 degrees who is in the
38 degrees.

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And the top is 39 degrees.

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And, you know, Freemasonry, they work with
two pyramids.

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One in North America and one in Europe.

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And the 38 degrees, they are two peoples.

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One from North America pyramid and the
other from European pyramid.

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And the 39 degrees is the supreme chief of
the Freemasonry.

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And the last chief I know was Paul VI,
the Pope Paul VI.

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He was the only Pope in all the story of
the Church.

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You know, his hat is supposed to have
three crowns.

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That's why they call that in Latin tiara.

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That means three crowns.

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But Paul VI had four crowns.

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Because the fourth one was the world chief
of the Freemasonry.

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Okay, we are going to take a break and
come back with former Bishop Buffard and

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Eric Phelps.

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And I might remind everyone that in canon
law, it's supposed to mean excommunication

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if you belong to a Masonic lodge.

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We will be back and talk about that in
four minutes.

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Okay, we are back for the final segment of
this first hour of the investigative

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journal.

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And we are going to spend two hours with
my guests.

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That's former Bishop Gerard Buffard and
also Eric Phelps, author of Vatican

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Assassins.

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And I hope people out there appreciate
this, what former Bishop Buffard is

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saying.

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A person that has this kind of
information, who worked closely in Rome

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and understands the inner workings,
should be praised for coming forward.

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Because I'll tell you what, not many
people do.

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This has been a long-kept secret in this
country of actually the real workings of

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the Vatican.

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What their real intentions are and how
they use the Jesuit order as their

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henchmen.

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And I think after this interview,
go to www.gcnlive.com, go to the archives,

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pass this around.

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Because I think after you listen to these
two hours, it will remove any kind of

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doubt that the Vatican is actually the
religious controllers of the New World

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Order.

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Controlled by the Black Pope.

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And we have former Bishop Gerard Buffard,
who has verified that after working in the

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Vatican for a number of years.

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Communicating with the Jesuits on a daily
basis.

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Eric, I want you to continue.

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It was shocking to me to hear this about
all these different...

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I knew back in the 80's when I worked in
Rome.

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I was there when over 150 high bishops,
priests, and our cardinals were outed as

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being members of Masonic lodges,
P2 included.

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I remember the story coming out in the
Italian newspapers when I worked there.

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And now we hear that Pope Paul VI,
through Bishop Buffard's recollections,

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was actually a 39th degree Mason.

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Unbelievable.

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Go ahead and pick it up from there,
Eric.

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Are you there?

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Yes, I am there.

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Go ahead.

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You know what I said?

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You know, I don't say that Brother Billy
Graham was Mason.

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But I said, you know, the Jesuits
infiltrate the Christian Church through

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the Mason.

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They infiltrate the big organizations.

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Like a Baptist organization, Baptist
Church, Pentecostal Church, Adventist

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Church.

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They infiltrate the big system to control
the system.

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And many of their pastors or their
leaders, they don't know they are

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infiltrated by the Jews, but through the
secret orders, you know.

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The secret orders, they are created to
infiltrate the people and to know what is

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going on inside.

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The heart of each organization to control,
to make that a world government,

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you know.

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That's their way to control.

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They infiltrate the Church.

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They infiltrate the congregation.

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And they know everything is going inside.

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And with that, they can play their cards
and organize their things, you know.

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That leads to another question.

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Go ahead, Eric.

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What do you feel, Pastor Bafard,
is the purpose for the confessional that

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the priests employ?

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The what?

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The confession?

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Yeah, why are they using it?

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What's the real reason for the
confessional?

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What are they doing with it?

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Okay, the priests, now they don't use that
because the people, they don't believe in

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that.

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Before, just like me, while I was named a
priest in Africa or in Guatemala,

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I don't know what I had to preach.

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Because I don't know the sins of the
people.

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And we have to preach against the sins of
the people.

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And to know who are the sins of the
people, we have to receive a confession

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from them.

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They come in confessional, they accuse my
father.

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I do this, I do this, I do this,
I do this.

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Okay, in the name of God, I forget your
sins.

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In the name of the Father, the Son,
and of the Holy Ghost.

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We give them a punishment and they go.

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But next Sunday, I said, oh yes.

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In this parish, they do a tattooing.

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They drink a lot.

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They are wrong against their wife.

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They don't, you know, they don't look
after their family.

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And I have something to preach.

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That's why they use confession.

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That's why now the Catholic Church,
they lose the power in their people.

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Because the people, they don't know,
they don't go in confession again.

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They are not obliged to go.

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When I was priest, we were obliged to go
in confession every week.

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Because if you don't go to confession,
we are not allowed to receive the

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communion.

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And if we don't receive the communion,
the people in church, they say,

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oh, she don't receive the communion
because she did something wrong.

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To, you know, to don't be judged by the
people, we have to go to confessional to

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receive the absolution.

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And after that, receive the communion.

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That's a cultural system organized by the
church to know the private life of the

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people.

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As you say these things, it reminds me
that, see, Lyndon Johnson, he wanted to

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have communion from his Roman Catholic
priest, Father Schneider.

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And Father Schneider said, I can't give
you communion until you're baptized.

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Isn't that correct?

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I don't hear your question well.

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Okay, a Catholic priest cannot give
communion to the person unless the person

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is baptized into the Catholic Church,
right?

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Yeah, he is not supposed to give a
communion if he is not baptized.

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Okay, and I found it very humorous that
when I read this particular document that

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Lyndon Johnson, the American president
involved in the assassination of John F.

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Kennedy, that he wanted to take communion
from the man he called his best friend,

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Father Winnibar Schneider.

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And Father Winnibar Schneider,
who was the pastor of Francis Xavier

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Church in Texas, said, I cannot give you
communion because you're not baptized.

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But President Kennedy, as I hear in the
story, he was a Catholic president.

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He was a Roman Catholic president.

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Yes, he was a Roman Catholic, but with
President Kennedy, he would not allow the

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Sunday Mass to be said in the White House.

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Yeah, I don't know, but I know.

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For us, he was a Catholic president in the
United States.

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But you know, each bishop, each priest,
they do what they want in their parish.

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If I want to refuse communion to certain
peoples, I was allowed to do this,

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you know.

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But you know, in each religion,
they have a special law, and they have a

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common law, and they can change the law as
they want, you know.

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You know, you mentioned Paul VI.

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Before he was Pope Paul VI, he was the
Assistant Cardinal Secretary of State.

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Yes, he was Secretary of State.

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Are you familiar with his involvement in
the Vatican rat lines, helping Nazis

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escape out of Europe after World War II?

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You know, the word World War II,
that's a big story.

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All that is, that's a big money story.

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You know, the Church of Rome, the Vatican,
the Bank of the Vatican, they had a

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problem.

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And they asked the Jews' bank,
the World Jews' Bank, to refill the bank,

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you know.

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But they had a date to give the money
back, you know.

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So, that's the main story, but you know,
they have some documents to prove that,

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you know, but that's difficult to prove.

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But the normal story is, and because the
Vatican didn't have the money to give the

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money back to the Jews' bank, Pius XII and
his consul, he was a new pope in this

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time.

35:52.540 --> 36:01.440
He asked Van Patten and Alfred Muller,
the guards and the consular of Hitler,

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to come in Rome.

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And he said, we have to kill the Jews
because the Jews put Jesus on the cross.

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But that's not... the Jews made Jesus on
the cross.

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First of all, that's a Roman, the soldier
of Rome, to kill him.

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But Jesus was made on the cross because of
my sins, not because of the Jews.

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Pastor, we're going to have to take a
break.

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And Eric, we're going to take a top of the
hour break, about three minutes,

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and then six minutes for news.

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So both of you take a little breather.

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We're going to come back for our second
hour on the Investigative Journal with

36:38.640 --> 36:42.720
Eric Phelps, author of Vatican Assassins,
and former Bishop Gerard Bouffard.

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Back in about seven minutes.

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Okay, we're back for the second hour of
the Investigative Journal.

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My guests are former Bishop of Guatemala,
Gerard Bouffard, who also worked a number

36:55.620 --> 36:59.900
of years in the Vatican and has inside
information that he shared with us that

36:59.900 --> 37:00.500
first hour.

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My other guest is also Eric Phelps,
the author of Vatican Assassins.

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And we're together questioning who are the
real spiritual controllers of the New

37:12.260 --> 37:12.720
World Order.

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And I want to thank Bishop Gerard Bouffard
for coming forward with this information.

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And we're going to continue on.

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I know... Eric, are you there right now?

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Yes.

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Can we get the music off in the back?

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Thanks.

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Anyway, what I wanted to mention,
Eric, was that there are some things I'd

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like to get at.

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I know you know the Bishop quite well.

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Some things I think I'm interested in is
why he finally left.

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I'd like to get into that.

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Why he left the church.

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Also, the state of the church in America
and the Jesuit role here.

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And I just thought you might want to pick
it up again where you left off.

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Okay.

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Well, Gerard, tell us why you left the
papacy and how you came to the Lord.

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Oh, I was coming from Rome and a boy came
in front of me in a railway station in

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Montreal and asked me if I was saved.

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But I can't answer because I didn't know
what that means, saved, salvation,

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you know.

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And the boy told me, he said, if you find
a Bible, you know if you are saved or not.

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And finally, I find a Bible and I open the
Bible in the books of Hebrews chapter 7,

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verse 23, 24, and 27.

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The verses said, and they truly were many
priests because they were not afraid to

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continue by reason of death.

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But this man, that means Jesus,
because he continued ever, had an

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unchangeable priesthood.

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And in French, that means not
transmittable priesthood.

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That means that priesthood of Jesus can be
given to anyone.

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That's especially for him.

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And verse 27, he said, he did not daily
ask those high priests to offer up

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sacrifice, first for his own sins and then
for the people.

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For this he died once when he offered up
himself at the cross.

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That means after Jesus is no more priest.

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I was believing the Bible was the words of
God.

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But first of all, I was not allowed to
read the Bible.

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And secondly, I didn't have to read the
Bible because I was more intelligent than

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the Bibles.

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In the Catholic Church, they don't preach
through the word of God.

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They preach the word of St. Thomas
Aquinas.

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They preach through theology, philosophy,
and you know, big preacher.

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But they use the Bible just to face,
you know.

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And when I wrote, I read that verses,
you know, I was shocking in myself.

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And I said, I'm not a priest.

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Who I am.

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And from that moment, I get out of the
church and I find some Christians and they

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preach me the word of God.

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And I accept Jesus Christ in my life.

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I give my life to Jesus and I consecrate
in my life.

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And I'm serving him up to now.

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And the first, I have a few points,
you know.

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I finally, when I was reading the Bible,
you know, the Holy Spirit opened my eyes.

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And teach me something.

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The Catholic Church, you know,
they practice idolatry.

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They adore people.

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Idolatry.

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The Bible said you are supposed to adore
God only, you know.

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And they continue with the priesthood.

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But according to the word of God,
there is no more priesthood.

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And in the Bible, you can't find
priesthood anywhere in the New Testament.

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They speak about the prophets,
the evangelists, the apostles,

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the pastors, the teachers.

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But they never speak about priests again
because we have only one priest,

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Jesus Christ, you know.

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And they have intercession.

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Intercession with the dead.

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And the Bible said we are not supposed to
obey the people they have contact with the

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dead.

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With the spirit of the dead.

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The Bible said no to that.

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And the Catholic Church, when they see the
mass, they practice witchcraft with the

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dead people.

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They pray Mary, they pray Saint Joseph,
they pray that saint, that saint.

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All dead people.

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And we have a living God.

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We are supposed to pray Jesus.

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Jesus said, all things you ask of my
Father in my name you will receive it,

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you know.

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We have one God.

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And we adore and we pray.

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They push us to pray the dead people.

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And we have a living God, but they don't
worry about Him.

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That's the more crime the Catholic
institutions do.

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They play with the spirit.

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For the priest, when he sees the mass,
he is obliged to have a stone.

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A stone with, in the middle of that stone,
they have little tombs with the bones of

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the dead in there.

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If the priest can't put his cup in that,
the mass is not good.

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You have to pass by the spirit of the dead
to have good things.

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That's not what the Word of God says.

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We have a living God, and He is only one
mediator between the Father and us.

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He is Jesus.

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Now, I've got to ask you a question.

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When you were at the Vatican, Bishop,
when you worked there for all those years,

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there are many people that say the
high-level Jesuits, the hierarchy of the

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Vatican, actually their first allegiance
is to Lucifer.

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Looking back at your experience,
can you add anything to that statement?

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About the Jesuit power?

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No, about... go ahead.

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I was saying the Jesuits, many people say
the Jesuits and the hierarchy,

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the high Vatican priests, many of them
have their first allegiance to Lucifer,

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not to Jesus.

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What do you think?

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That's true.

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If you look at the story of the church,
from now to the beginning, you know,

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a religion, you can find any religion you
want.

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Inside of the religion, they have
witchcraft.

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And by the witchcraft, they control
people.

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They control the soul of the people.

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That's why when we give our life to Jesus
Christ, when we confess Christ as our

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personal Savior, we ask Him to put outside
of ourselves all spirit.

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Many people, they are kidnapped by the
spirit of witchcraft, and all that's

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coming from the power.

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And they, you know, to face that,
they organize a secret organization.

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But they are all controlled by the high
priest in the Catholic church or other

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religion, you know.

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They are members of the... they are coming
from that religion, but they stay.

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They are afraid, they are in war against
their mother, but they stay the daughter

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of their mother.

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They use the same way, but different
manners, you know.

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That's why myself, I'm not a protestant.

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I am part of the body of Christ.

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I am a Christian, born again people.

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I'm not a protestant.

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When you call you protestant, because you
are not born again.

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We have to leave everything in that.

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The vast majority of protestants are high
level Freemasons.

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The Southern Baptist Convention has
500,000 Masons in their convention.

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Eric, we are going to have to take a break
right now.

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Pastor and Eric, we are going to take a
break right now.

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Be back in four minutes and continue on,
on the Investigative Journal.

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Okay, we are back.

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Final segment in this half hour of the
Investigative Journal.

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And we are talking with my two guests.

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Former Bishop Gerard Bouffard,
who was an insider, who worked at the

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Vatican many years.

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And also Eric Phelps, author of Vatican
Assassins.

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And that book is coming out shortly.

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So I want to, at the end of the interview
and the next way at the top of the hour,

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we are going to get into that.

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But before I do, let me just recap a few
things here.

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The Bishop has come forward telling some
shocking things about the Church.

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He worked in the Vatican for many years.

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How he learned on a daily basis that the
Jesuit order through the Black Pope

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actually controlled the Vatican.

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How the Vatican practices witchcraft
basically in its worshiping.

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And they actually don't worship God,
but many of the hierarchy worship Lucifer.

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I wanted to ask... I know Eric has a
number of questions.

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And right after this segment, I want to
spend the last half hour talking about how

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you knew Father Alberto Rivera.

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He is a Jesuit priest who came forward and
talked about how the Jesuits infiltrate

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other religions.

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How their main goal is to take over this
country and other countries and form one

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world government, one world religion.

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Not under freedom and democracy and
worshiping God, but under fascism and

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basically worshiping Lucifer.

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And this is going to be an interesting
half hour.

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But let's finish up here, Bishop.

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I know you left the Church with bad taste
in your mouth and you were very

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displeased.

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Tell us again, when you were at the
Vatican, what did you really learn about

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their intentions, about this country,
about America?

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Greg, I think before we go to that
question, it might be good to ask Gerard

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to please explain to us the doctrine of
the temporal power.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Okay.

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The doctrine of the temporal power,
that one of the first official secret

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organizations was found by the Templars to
control every traffic between Europe to

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Jerusalem.

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They called them the protector of the,
what do you call that, the travelers,

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you know, the pilgrims, you know,
to Jerusalem.

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But they had to control everything coming
inside of Jerusalem and going outside of

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Jerusalem.

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And that's one of the reasons Ignatius of
Royola found the Jesuits.

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Because the Jesuits had two functions.

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They were soldiers, inquisitors,
and to cover that, there was a priest.

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And as a priest, nobody had a doubt about
them.

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They were believing them.

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And that gave them the power to take the
control.

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Because in this time, Rome wanted to have
the power in Jerusalem and the Holy Land.

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And they didn't have it.

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That's why they have the concordia with
the Muslims.

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You know, Muhammad was married with a
Roman Catholic woman.

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Muhammad?

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Muhammad, yeah.

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Muhammad was married to a Roman Catholic
woman?

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Muhammad, yeah.

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He was married with a Roman Catholic
woman.

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And all that, all the Jesuit spirit...

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Right.

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And Alberto Rivera, when Alberto Rivera
got out of the Jesuit order, he started to

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give his testimony.

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And he was very, very, very shocking the
Catholic system.

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And he was breaking, really, the faith of
the people.

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That's why the Jesuit order and the
Catholic system, they worked against him

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all his life to kill him, to stop him to
do, to reveal secret things to the people.

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You know?

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That's why they made a war against him.

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And they killed him too.

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He was poisoned inside in one hospital.

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And he was poisoned with acid,
you know, they gave him a glass of acid,

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burned all of his body.

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Alberto died like a martyr.

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I visited him a few days before he died.

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When he died, I was not there,
but I was there a few weeks before he

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died.

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And I visited him in the hospital.

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And I've never seen a man suffering like
that in my life, you know.

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He gave his life for the truth.

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But he was blocking to tell the truth.

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Because in the Christian way too,
we have some problems too, you know.

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We still sinner, we are saved,
but we still sinner.

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And he had a problem with the Catholic
system when the Jesuit, because he was a

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Jesuit.

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And the Jesuit, the things they do to many
people against him.

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They said he was never a priest,
he never was a Jesuit.

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They break his paper, just like they do
with me, you know.

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You know, they destroy every proof they
have, he have, you know.

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And to break his work.

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And when they realize they can't stop him
to speak, they kill him, that's all.

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And you knew Father Rivera, you know.

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You knew Father Rivera well, right?

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Oh yes, I know him.

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I know personally, I was traveling many
times with him to all in the United

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States.

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We went to California, we went to Florida.

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He came in Alberta, in Canada.

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I was with him, I met him in Alberta.

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When he came for the first time,
gave his testimony in a town named Dallas

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in Alberta.

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And I met him there.

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You know, I wrote a letter before to ask
the bishop to kill him, you know.

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When I was in power.

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Because he was really breaking the system.

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What did you say?

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Did you repeat that?

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Did you repeat that, Bishop?

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I said, I wrote a letter before to the
bishop around the world.

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To put Alberto Rivera in the manner that
he can't do anything against the church.

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That means, kill him if you want,
but stop him to talk.

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And this is before when you were still
loyal to the Catholic Church, correct?

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Yeah, when I was in the holy office.

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And when I get saved, when I was born
again, I tried to meet him, to talk with

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him.

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To ask him to forget me about that.

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And I met him in Alberta.

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And after that, we were still working
together a few years.

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And we were traveling together with his
wife, with his young son, Albertito.

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And I know perfectly well Ritu,
his wife.

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And we were working together.

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He came to my town in Quebec to give his
testimony in my small church where I was a

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pastor a few years ago.

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And he came to Quebec City to give his
testimony in Quebec at the university.

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Bishop, we're going to take a break.

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And then come back in four minutes and
continue on the investigative journal.

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Okay, we're back.

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And I'm interviewing, along with Eric
Phelps, we're interviewing Bishop Gerard

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Bouffard, former Bishop Gerard Bouffard,
who has left the Catholic Church.

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Just an incredible story.

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And Bishop, do you believe what Fr.

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Alberto Rivera said about the Jesuit
order, their intentions, and the Vatican

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are true?

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Yes, it's true.

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And you know, in the time of Paul VI,
the Vatican was realized.

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The United States of America was the model
for all the countries around the world to

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have a Christian people.

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We never can find around the world a
number of Christians and believers like

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you have in the United States in Spain.

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That's why Paul VI came to the United
Nations to speak there, to organize a

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revival in the Catholic Church,
to bring the Catholic Church back to him,

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you know, to fight the Christian preaching
in the United States.

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John Paul II came to Mexico to do the same
thing, to stop the Christians to take the

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place of the Catholic Church in Central
America, to preach the Word of God and

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chase that church, you know, that
idolatry, you know, church.

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That's why they come to break it,
because they were feeling like,

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you know, the church was going down,
down, down.

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And they take their Pope to make a
revival, Catholic revival.

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But we know, according to the Bible,
we are supposed to have a revival in

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Quebec, in Canada, in the United States,
and to bring our people to God,

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not to religion.

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That's why the two last Popes,
they tried to bring the people back to

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their religion.

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But the Word of God said we don't have to
be religious, we have to be part of the

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Body of Christ and born again and serve
God, not serve a religion of Jesus with

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our secularization.

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Father Alberto Rivera said that the
Jesuits in America, he was privy to

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information that they infiltrated other
churches to destroy the religions,

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to destroy this country, and actually have
much power over our government.

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Do you also believe that, from what you've
learned?

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Yes, I believe that.

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Because Alberto, the first time he was an
infiltrator.

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After that, God talked with him,
and he changed his mind.

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That's why they destroy him, because he
never do what they want him to do for

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them.

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You know, he changed his mind,
and he born again, get converted,

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and start to preach the Word of God and
speak against that devil system.

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That's why they kill him.

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And I believe that.

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Were you there when Alberto spoke in
Guatemala, when he spoke to all those

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people that time, when he exposed the
papacy and the purpose of the Jesuits?

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Yes, I was there.

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You were there?

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You heard that speech?

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Yes.

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And we had fun after that.

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Would you agree with Alberto that the
Vatican killed John F.

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Kennedy?

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Because Alberto was very boisterous about
that.

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In fact, he said he was involved in the
assassination of Corpus Christi,

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Texas.

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Yes, I believe in that too.

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You know, they can do anything.

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You can imagine the way they used to
destroy.

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Would you say that, as Alberto said,
that the Vatican was in control of the

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Mafia here in the United States?

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Anywhere around the world.

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Anywhere around the world.

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They control everything.

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They have the power.

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With the story of the World Trade Center
and everything, you know, people cannot

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imagine what they do, you know.

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The Jesuit system, they control the
Catholic Church, they control everything.

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So, as I say in my book, and I've said
publicly for the last five years,

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that the Jesuits used Archbishop Edward
Cardinal Egan to bring down the World

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Trade Center.

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Would you agree that the Vatican was
really behind the bringing down of the

01:00:02.210 --> 01:00:02.790
World Trade Center?

01:00:04.310 --> 01:00:07.550
You know, I don't want to talk about that.

01:00:07.550 --> 01:00:08.870
If you don't want to answer that,
that's okay.

01:00:08.870 --> 01:00:15.150
But, anyway, I know where that thing
comes, you know.

01:00:15.930 --> 01:00:26.310
And I know one thing, the Jesuit system
and the secret system, the organization

01:00:26.310 --> 01:00:37.670
system, they try to put the United States
down, because you can find the majority of

01:00:37.670 --> 01:00:41.650
the Christians in North America,
they are in the United States.

01:00:41.950 --> 01:00:49.810
And that's not what the Catholic and the
Jesuit system want.

01:00:50.730 --> 01:00:52.610
They want to control everything.

01:00:54.010 --> 01:00:57.370
That's why they are against North America.

01:00:58.290 --> 01:01:04.610
Would you say that the Vatican is behind
all these illegal Mexican Roman Catholic

01:01:04.610 --> 01:01:07.030
aliens coming into this country by the
millions?

01:01:08.310 --> 01:01:08.910
Why not?

01:01:09.910 --> 01:01:18.690
You know, you can't imagine all the way
they used to destroy and control.

01:01:21.310 --> 01:01:23.830
And the directions come from the Black
Pope?

01:01:24.870 --> 01:01:25.590
Yeah.

01:01:26.250 --> 01:01:26.650
Yes.

01:01:27.350 --> 01:01:29.430
Did the Jesuits control Quebec?

01:01:29.750 --> 01:01:31.210
No, they didn't.

01:01:32.030 --> 01:01:37.490
There are around 15 powerful people in the
Vatican.

01:01:38.850 --> 01:01:39.730
They are all Jesuits.

01:01:40.270 --> 01:01:45.010
They have the Jesuits before they have the
Dominican Fathers.

01:01:46.550 --> 01:01:49.710
And the Jesuits take the place of the
Dominicans after that.

01:01:49.710 --> 01:01:55.110
They fight against the Dominicans,
because the Dominicans, they create the

01:01:55.110 --> 01:01:55.910
Inquisition.

01:01:57.310 --> 01:01:59.850
And the Jesuits take the place of the
Dominicans.

01:02:03.670 --> 01:02:09.330
Because there are many steps to be a
Jesuit.

01:02:10.390 --> 01:02:17.290
And they are drilled to control and get
the control to organize the world

01:02:17.290 --> 01:02:17.910
government.

01:02:17.910 --> 01:02:22.790
That's the plan of the secret society to
create the world government.

01:02:23.110 --> 01:02:25.030
And the Jesuits, they are the head of
that.

01:02:26.130 --> 01:02:29.530
The Jesuits, they are coming rightly from
the Illuminati.

01:02:30.030 --> 01:02:30.970
The Illuminati.

01:02:32.010 --> 01:02:36.150
What do you think of Ignatius Loyola's
spiritual exercises?

01:02:40.210 --> 01:02:42.890
It made me laugh.

01:02:43.990 --> 01:02:48.990
You know what means Jesuit?

01:02:50.030 --> 01:02:50.410
No.

01:02:51.230 --> 01:02:51.950
Hypocrite.

01:02:52.430 --> 01:02:53.010
Hypocrite.

01:02:53.550 --> 01:02:54.790
And you have your answer.

01:02:56.630 --> 01:02:57.990
Jesuit means hypocrite.

01:02:58.110 --> 01:03:02.210
If you look in the dictionary,
they wrote Jesuit, hypocrite.

01:03:03.690 --> 01:03:06.530
Yes, an English word is Jesuitical.

01:03:06.710 --> 01:03:10.450
So if someone is being hypocritical or
lying or deceptive, they use the word

01:03:10.450 --> 01:03:11.130
Jesuitical.

01:03:11.270 --> 01:03:13.750
At least for a long time, they don't use
it much anymore.

01:03:16.570 --> 01:03:20.330
Pastor, do you ever fear, or Bishop,
do you ever fear any repercussions for you

01:03:20.330 --> 01:03:21.330
coming forward?

01:03:21.750 --> 01:03:23.970
I want to thank, you know, you are so
brave to do this.

01:03:24.330 --> 01:03:25.590
But do you ever fear anything?

01:03:28.210 --> 01:03:31.390
You know, I have my family.

01:03:33.330 --> 01:03:42.170
And, you know, it's something,
you know, we have to check.

01:03:42.890 --> 01:03:47.550
Because if we don't, just like Alberto,
Alberto gave his life for that.

01:03:47.950 --> 01:03:49.490
Okay, we're going to take a break.

01:03:49.710 --> 01:03:53.050
Come back with our final segment and some
important questions remaining.

01:03:53.050 --> 01:03:55.430
And thank you so much, Bishop.

01:03:55.570 --> 01:03:58.070
We'll be back in four minutes on the
Investigative Journal.

01:03:59.370 --> 01:04:04.990
Okay, we are back for our final 11-minute
segment of the Investigative Journal.

01:04:05.350 --> 01:04:08.210
A fascinating show, one that you need to
get.

01:04:08.310 --> 01:04:10.190
Go to www.gcnlive.com.

01:04:10.910 --> 01:04:12.790
Go to their archives and pass this around.

01:04:13.190 --> 01:04:18.270
Now, I got one question for the former
Bishop and the former Bishop who worked

01:04:18.270 --> 01:04:19.890
inside the Vatican for six years.

01:04:20.450 --> 01:04:22.010
And then, Eric, I know you have a few
more.

01:04:22.010 --> 01:04:23.690
But let me preface it with this.

01:04:24.090 --> 01:04:29.490
From the beginning of his presidency,
George Bush has been promoting the Jesuit

01:04:29.490 --> 01:04:29.950
agenda.

01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:32.290
And I think we can prove this beyond a
reasonable doubt.

01:04:32.770 --> 01:04:33.250
Look at this.

01:04:33.330 --> 01:04:36.550
Two months into his presidency,
surrounded by the Cardinals of Rome,

01:04:37.030 --> 01:04:41.170
the President dedicated a cultural center
in Washington, D.C., to the greatest

01:04:41.170 --> 01:04:41.670
enemy.

01:04:42.050 --> 01:04:45.530
I think many people who address this
issue, like Eric Phelps and the Bishop,

01:04:45.610 --> 01:04:46.110
will agree.

01:04:47.070 --> 01:04:50.510
The greatest enemy this Republic ever had,
the Pope of Rome.

01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:55.870
Bush declared that day that he is going to
enforce the words and teachings of the

01:04:55.870 --> 01:04:57.010
Pope here in America.

01:04:57.490 --> 01:05:03.010
My last question, Bishop, is when are the
American people going to wake up?

01:05:03.350 --> 01:05:08.710
And what is going to happen to this
country if we do not address this issue of

01:05:08.710 --> 01:05:14.750
this Vatican-led takeover of our country
and using the Jesuits here, who have a

01:05:14.750 --> 01:05:16.710
stronghold with 28 universities.

01:05:16.710 --> 01:05:18.590
What do they have planned?

01:05:19.170 --> 01:05:23.050
And why aren't the Americans really
responding?

01:05:25.550 --> 01:05:35.630
You know, for any people around the world,
we are already in the system trying to

01:05:35.630 --> 01:05:38.350
destroy all the systems around the world.

01:05:38.350 --> 01:05:46.770
We have only one thing to do, and go in
our knees and pray to God to help and take

01:05:46.770 --> 01:05:48.290
control of the world.

01:05:50.210 --> 01:05:58.350
You know, I don't want to put my nose
outside of my country, but I know one

01:05:58.350 --> 01:05:58.590
thing.

01:05:59.150 --> 01:06:06.110
If the world continues just like it is
now, we are going to be destroyed.

01:06:07.550 --> 01:06:10.790
You know, and we are going to perish.

01:06:11.950 --> 01:06:19.490
But if we trust God, we're trusting in God
and praying sincerely and have a contact

01:06:19.490 --> 01:06:23.670
with God, God loves His people because He
created His people.

01:06:23.830 --> 01:06:26.770
He created the United States, He created
Canada, He created everything.

01:06:27.210 --> 01:06:33.450
We have to go in our knees and pray to God
to protect us against all the systems

01:06:33.450 --> 01:06:35.210
trying to destroy us.

01:06:35.210 --> 01:06:42.970
You know, God, all the people,
many people, the majority of the people,

01:06:43.130 --> 01:06:46.030
they are religious, but they are not
Christian.

01:06:47.570 --> 01:06:50.750
Any religious system can't save people.

01:06:51.910 --> 01:06:54.850
Any religion around the world,
they can't save people.

01:06:55.950 --> 01:07:02.170
We have to faith in God, faith God,
and we have to put our faith in Jesus and

01:07:02.170 --> 01:07:04.010
God, not in the religion.

01:07:04.850 --> 01:07:10.770
If we are religious, we are not in the end
of the road.

01:07:11.170 --> 01:07:13.110
God doesn't want us to be religious.

01:07:13.330 --> 01:07:14.510
He wants to be His children.

01:07:15.870 --> 01:07:22.710
That's why we have to fight against our
religious system, that the religious

01:07:22.710 --> 01:07:25.810
system is condemning the people now to
death.

01:07:26.750 --> 01:07:28.370
Right, and Eric, I know you have some
questions.

01:07:28.470 --> 01:07:30.010
Go ahead, we have about eight or nine
minutes.

01:07:30.010 --> 01:07:35.910
Yes, so you would say, Pastor Bafar,
that for this to change, men have to

01:07:35.910 --> 01:07:42.230
repent of their sins and believe on the
Lord Jesus Christ that He died for their

01:07:42.230 --> 01:07:43.730
sins, according to the Scriptures.

01:07:44.510 --> 01:07:45.810
That's the only way.

01:07:46.130 --> 01:07:47.130
That's the only way.

01:07:48.650 --> 01:07:50.550
That's the only hope we can have.

01:07:51.110 --> 01:07:55.590
And then once we would do that,
then the Lord would intervene for us,

01:07:55.950 --> 01:07:56.570
wouldn't you say?

01:07:58.470 --> 01:07:59.650
What did you say?

01:08:00.210 --> 01:08:04.470
Once we would truly repent and believe on
Christ and then seek the Lord and pray to

01:08:04.470 --> 01:08:08.790
Him, then don't you think He would fight
for us?

01:08:09.570 --> 01:08:11.130
Yes, God fights for us.

01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:20.550
And we are already, we have the victory
when we really give, put our life in the

01:08:20.550 --> 01:08:21.330
hand of God.

01:08:21.830 --> 01:08:25.450
We are sure to be safe and protected.

01:08:26.330 --> 01:08:27.870
God is loving His people.

01:08:28.370 --> 01:08:30.070
You know, I love my family.

01:08:30.370 --> 01:08:31.230
I love you, brother.

01:08:31.490 --> 01:08:33.290
I love the other brother on the radio.

01:08:33.710 --> 01:08:36.310
I love every people in North America.

01:08:36.310 --> 01:08:41.850
But God loves them more as I love them.

01:08:43.090 --> 01:08:44.610
He gives His life for them.

01:08:44.990 --> 01:08:46.230
He gives His life for me.

01:08:46.590 --> 01:08:49.370
He gives His life for you, brother,
precious brother.

01:08:50.050 --> 01:08:59.550
And we have to put our life in His hand,
confess Him and serve Him.

01:09:00.270 --> 01:09:02.430
And He is there to protect us.

01:09:02.430 --> 01:09:07.930
You know, I'm reminded that that's what
happened in England when the people of

01:09:07.930 --> 01:09:11.850
England, truly many of them, repented and
believed on Christ.

01:09:12.490 --> 01:09:19.950
And the Vatican was using Philip II of
Spain to send this huge armada against

01:09:19.950 --> 01:09:20.350
England.

01:09:21.250 --> 01:09:24.730
And because they went into their churches
and they prayed and they sought the Lord,

01:09:24.870 --> 01:09:29.790
and then they went out to fight with the
armada, that the Lord intervened for them

01:09:29.790 --> 01:09:36.370
and blew most of the armada up in the
North Sea and destroyed at least one third

01:09:36.370 --> 01:09:37.430
to three quarters of it.

01:09:37.970 --> 01:09:43.590
20,000 men on probably 100 Spanish
galleons and only 20 galleons returned to

01:09:43.590 --> 01:09:43.930
Spain.

01:09:44.530 --> 01:09:49.110
So if the Lord did it back in England,
He can do it again here because we do

01:09:49.110 --> 01:09:49.670
anticipate.

01:09:49.670 --> 01:09:53.710
Yes, you know, we have one thing to do.

01:09:54.270 --> 01:09:55.950
Pray for our government.

01:09:57.510 --> 01:09:59.370
We have to pray for our leaders.

01:10:00.170 --> 01:10:04.890
Our president, our premier minister,
we have to pray for our politicians.

01:10:05.910 --> 01:10:08.390
You know, we have to pray for them.

01:10:08.890 --> 01:10:10.910
Well, you know, that reminds me of Charles
V.

01:10:11.170 --> 01:10:15.950
He was the Holy Roman Emperor in the 1500s
and he was greatly persecuting God's

01:10:15.950 --> 01:10:17.790
people and the reformers and others.

01:10:17.790 --> 01:10:21.450
And so they all prayed against him.

01:10:21.470 --> 01:10:27.190
But you know, we have to be persecuted,
you know, if you want to live.

01:10:27.550 --> 01:10:30.470
We are going to have persecution,
no doubt, but they prayed that the Lord

01:10:30.470 --> 01:10:30.910
would intervene.

01:10:31.290 --> 01:10:32.190
And you know what Charles V.

01:10:32.190 --> 01:10:32.530
did?

01:10:32.850 --> 01:10:33.590
Charles V.

01:10:33.710 --> 01:10:39.570
resigned and he went into a monastery and
spent the rest of his life harvesting

01:10:39.570 --> 01:10:40.150
flowers.

01:10:40.150 --> 01:10:43.470
Now that would be a wonderful thing for
George Bush.

01:10:44.130 --> 01:10:48.010
Would to God that he would resign,
go into a monastery and pick flowers for

01:10:48.010 --> 01:10:48.850
the rest of his life.

01:10:49.450 --> 01:10:54.870
Because if something like that doesn't
happen, he is going to bring the power of

01:10:54.870 --> 01:11:01.030
the Vatican, its military power in control
of China, Russia, Mexico, the Islamic

01:11:01.030 --> 01:11:01.410
world.

01:11:01.510 --> 01:11:03.930
He is going to bring all that over here
for our invasion.

01:11:04.690 --> 01:11:09.390
And I really believe we need to be serious
as the English were and as you were Pastor

01:11:09.390 --> 01:11:11.610
when you left the power of the Vatican as
a Bishop.

01:11:12.270 --> 01:11:17.450
And I would also like to say thank you for
telling me that you asked Alberto to

01:11:17.450 --> 01:11:22.050
forgive you for writing that letter
against him.

01:11:23.030 --> 01:11:26.290
Yeah, I mean that is an amazing story.

01:11:27.410 --> 01:11:32.970
I followed Alberto Rivera's story and to
listen to you Bishop, give it credibility.

01:11:32.970 --> 01:11:35.210
I hope everyone out there that has doubted
that.

01:11:35.350 --> 01:11:39.310
And I have had people after I have written
the story send me emails, oh he was never

01:11:39.310 --> 01:11:39.910
a priest.

01:11:40.790 --> 01:11:45.590
And I think what this interview has done,
I think listeners, you must understand

01:11:45.590 --> 01:11:49.930
that this comes from the heart of a man
who was close to the Catholic Church,

01:11:50.030 --> 01:11:53.350
who believed in it and found out their
real intentions.

01:11:53.530 --> 01:11:55.290
And that intention is to destroy us.

01:11:55.790 --> 01:11:57.410
And we can't let that happen.

01:11:57.770 --> 01:12:02.150
And we can't let our beliefs, our false
beliefs go on any longer.

01:12:02.150 --> 01:12:06.310
And that is why I believe what Eric has
called for in his book to oust the Jesuits

01:12:06.310 --> 01:12:10.850
from this soil, even though they have such
a strong foothold, is something that

01:12:10.850 --> 01:12:12.090
Americans must consider.

01:12:12.530 --> 01:12:15.010
Because they control the Council on
Foreign Relations.

01:12:15.750 --> 01:12:17.550
They control our government.

01:12:17.850 --> 01:12:20.390
And our government is not representing the
people.

01:12:20.890 --> 01:12:21.790
They are going to what?

01:12:22.170 --> 01:12:25.990
They are going to preside over the deaths
of millions of Americans.

01:12:26.190 --> 01:12:30.810
And I really thank the Bishop for coming
forward because I think it is going to

01:12:30.810 --> 01:12:31.590
save some lives.

01:12:32.510 --> 01:12:36.450
Just by people listening to the
credibility of his words.

01:12:37.550 --> 01:12:41.630
Despite the campaign that the Jesuits,
I know, will put on to discredit him,

01:12:41.930 --> 01:12:44.010
I won't believe one word of it.

01:12:44.130 --> 01:12:45.250
And I hope you out there won't either.

01:12:45.330 --> 01:12:47.650
Any last words, Pastor or Eric?

01:12:47.730 --> 01:12:48.810
We only have a couple of minutes.

01:12:50.110 --> 01:12:50.710
Go ahead, George.

01:12:51.270 --> 01:12:51.490
Please.

01:12:52.360 --> 01:12:52.730
Okay.

01:12:54.970 --> 01:13:00.970
Apart of now, I put the United States in
my prayer every day.

01:13:01.630 --> 01:13:11.410
I put the government, I put President Bush
and his elders to turn their hearts to

01:13:11.410 --> 01:13:12.090
God, you know.

01:13:12.990 --> 01:13:15.530
God is our only hope.

01:13:16.450 --> 01:13:20.030
He is the one who can give peace,
you know.

01:13:22.750 --> 01:13:27.130
And thank you, Father, to give us this
opportunity to be on radio today.

01:13:27.910 --> 01:13:29.190
And thank you so much, Pastor.

01:13:29.210 --> 01:13:30.150
To speak about your love.

01:13:31.030 --> 01:13:32.210
With that, I must go.

01:13:32.290 --> 01:13:32.970
We are all out of time.

01:13:33.350 --> 01:13:35.030
Eric, thank you so much for coming on
board.

01:13:35.230 --> 01:13:35.830
Thank you, Greg.

01:13:35.910 --> 01:13:37.250
Thank you, George, for coming.

01:13:37.930 --> 01:13:38.670
God bless you.

01:13:39.050 --> 01:13:40.730
Okay, God bless you all.

01:13:41.050 --> 01:13:43.370
And we are all out of time today on the
Investigative Journal.

01:13:43.550 --> 01:13:44.270
Powerful show.

01:13:44.730 --> 01:13:46.450
We will be back tomorrow with another one.