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Real faith, taking the shield of faith.

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Ephesians 6.16.

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Presents an audio interview with Dr.
Alberto Rivera Romero.

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This interview was made to Dr. Alberto
Rivera in a visit to the city of Guatemala

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in Central America.

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Dr. Alberto Rivera is a Jesuit priest
converted to the Lord Jesus Christ.

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Dr. Alberto Rivera went to the presence of
the Lord in 1997.

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This is an exclusive interview with Dr.
Alberto Rivera Romero, former Jesuit

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priest and now converted to the Gospel of
Jesus Christ.

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Welcome Dr. Rivera.

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Could you tell us what the word Catholic
means?

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It is a very clear definition.

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It has nothing to do with the Romanism of
religion.

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The word Catholic is a plain word in the
sense of its application to the Church of

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Christ.

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The Church of the Lord, the Church of
Christ, is a universal church in the sense

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not only that it is the local church,
but that the local church is a member of

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the whole force of the Lord, which is
represented by the local church,

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not by a government of the local church.

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Another important question we have here
says the following.

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Does it affect that a Christian lives with
people who are not Christian?

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At this point, as I mentioned before,
it is not the point that this conduct is

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going to reach the point that a person can
do something that cannot be done.

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This is not the case, because again,
the Church and the practice of Christ are

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supposed to...

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If the conduct of a person were to be the
dominant factor in salvation, the person

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is no longer a Christian.

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And then we would not need the grace of
Christ, we would need something through

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the conduct of a person.

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If it were, and if it were not,
we would lose our lives because of this

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conduct.

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But it is not the case.

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But there are facts that affect.

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For example, in terms of the time factor,
a person can be affected in terms of their

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salvation and in terms of how long they
live.

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Their salvation and their relationship
with Christ and their encounter with

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Christ can be dilated.

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Because this encounter with Christ,
with a person, can be dilated by means of

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this series of stones on the way.

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But never to the point of being something
that dominates our lives or that dominates

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our plans or goals, because it is not
true.

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I would rather say that we should apply
the biblical principles to this,

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and this is what the Scripture says in the
biblical chapter of the book of Exodus.

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Let me translate for you this.

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In verse 9 of chapter 5 it says,
Turn away, for the other time it was the

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Lord.

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But now the light comes from the Lord.

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Walk like children of light, because the
fruit of the Spirit is the whole truth and

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justice and truth, to all that is given to
the Lord.

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And do not communicate with the unfruitful
works of the devil, and do not commit

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adultery, because it is not good for a
Christian to live in the mongrels of the

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Catholic Church.

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We have one more question.

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This question says the following.

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If someone got married to the Catholic
Church, should he return to be married to

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the Evangelical Church?

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He should not get married.

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If he is so bravely married, it was not
the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church,

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and as I said before, not even the priest
who married us.

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It was the covenant that they made,
both of love, before becoming priests.

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Marriage is a divine decree that is not
intrinsically related to the plan of

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salvation.

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In other words, it was already established
by God in the book of Genesis.

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For so long the man will leave his father
and mother.

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God does not say, for so long,
once you are saved, you will leave.

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It already implies that there is no such
thing.

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The man that God refers to, is referring
entirely to the natural man.

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That is, to the natural man, to the
spiritual man.

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Therefore, I advise you, I advise that
every person who was canonically married,

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according to what is called the sacrament
of marriage.

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This is a satanic infusion.

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What I mean is that there is a need for
liberation.

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And I would advise that the person
contracts a civil marriage, and has not

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contracted it yet.

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This is the first step you have to take.

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Civil marriage.

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In other words, a legal recognition in
society, that you profess love.

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But a spiritual recognition in the Church,
that you are a husband and wife.

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And that it is not due to the ordination
or the ordained marriage of the priest,

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to give you a spiritual testimony of this
experience of salvation and redemption in

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Jesus Christ.

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Among other questions we have,
the following one says so.

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A choir is sung that says, I do not care
about the church you go to.

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Is that concept correct?

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I would say that yes, it does matter to
the church you go to.

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And so much so that the Holy Spirit has
given very good guides, very good

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teachings, and very good principles,
to determine which is the Church of

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Christ, and which is not the Church of
Christ.

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And from there we go to this.

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We had to determine by the doctrine that
this experience professes, if this is the

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church I should go to.

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Because then, if I say, I do not care,
in other words, I am not respecting the

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revelation of the Holy Spirit,
concerning the marks, the characteristics

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and doctrines, that God has already given
to the Church of Christ.

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The Catholic doctrine teaches that the
Apostle Peter was the first Pope.

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And also the Catholic doctrine teaches
that both the Popes and the priests must

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maintain the celibacy.

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However, the question says, how does
Catholicism explain that Peter was

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married?

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Let's say that Roman Catholicism has
always admitted, admitted within the Roman

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Catholic theology, and the history of
Roman Catholicism, has always admitted,

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and still admits, that not only the
Apostles, many of them, were married,

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but that even several cardinals,
and several bishops, and several Catholics

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from the beginning of Catholicism were
already married.

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In other words, there is no doubt about
Roman Catholicism, there is no doubt,

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nor is there a rejection, that this
experience took place.

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But then, it became part of the Catholic
tradition, as it is done, to create the

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tradition with authority, just like the
Bible, which says that if the Bible,

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for example, on account of celibacy,
recommends marriage, and I say,

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it is the Bible that recommends it,
hence why I had to get married,

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not only because I fell in love,
but because I obeyed the Lord.

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If my wife wants me to always prioritize
the fact that I fell in love, and then,

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in this sense, that I obeyed the Lord,
because when I put it as a priority,

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the fact that I got married because I
obeyed the Lord, she says, then you did

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not fall in love with me.

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The truth is that the Bible opposes,
and if we read, in 1 Timothy, we have a

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very biblical explanation of what it is,
and what it should be, precisely,

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the man who serves God, and no longer the
priest, because among the high ministries

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of the Church, you will see that the Holy
Spirit never mentions the priest.

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In the ministries he speaks of pastors,
he speaks of preachers, he speaks of

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teachers, he speaks of evangelists,
he speaks of doctors, but he never speaks

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of priests.

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Hence, as for the ministry of the Church
of Christ, as are the deacons,

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even the priests, etc., he also speaks of
the bishops.

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He says in chapter 3 of 1 Timothy,
a faithful word, if any of you want to be

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a bishop, a good work of faith.

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It is therefore convenient that the bishop
should be the irreproachable husband of a

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woman.

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And this is extraordinary, the Holy Spirit
puts this requirement above the strongest

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moral requirements that he demands of the
life of a certain man of God.

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This requirement is above even the most
serious moral requirements.

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He has so much primacy that he closes all
general requirements in verse 4,

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saying, that he governs his house well,
that he has his children in his lesson

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with all honesty, because he who does not
know how to govern his house, how will he

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take care of the Church of God?

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Marriage is imposed in the Christian
ministry.

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The following question says, Is it correct
that Christians use the Catholic Bible?

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It is not correct.

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I would say that it is more than correct,
it is not about being correct or not being

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correct, I would say it is about reverence
to the word of God.

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I would say that in the case of studying
the perversions that Catholicism has

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committed against the Holy Scriptures,
yes, in the sense of knowing them,

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not in the sense of meditating on them,
of studying them for spiritual

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development, there are problems in that.

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Do Catholics believe or not that there is
an eternal salvation?

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Yes, they believe that there is an eternal
salvation.

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Yes, I would lie if I said no,
and I think that the question has perhaps

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not been put in real perspective,
about Catholicism and that concept of

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eternal salvation.

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Yes, there is that concept, even more.

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Why do you believe, and do you believe the
hearers, that the Catholics, including the

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Catholics who are listening to me,
turn away so much from the point of view

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of religious vows, turn away so much to
reach the most devout, the most religious,

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and you, the old people, and the elderly,
especially the most militant, with a

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tremendous fervor, that they do not spend
days without novena, that they do not

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spend days without mass, that they do not
spend days without confession.

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What is this peace?

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Peace is showing that they long,
that they desire, and they feel the need

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for eternal life.

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Why?

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Because the Catholic doctrine according to
the economy of grace, and there is this

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doctrine instituted by Thomas Aquinas
himself, in the theology of the economy of

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grace, Thomas Aquinas exposes,
but I understand, the doctrine of grace in

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the scriptures, exposes that the more one
participates in the sacraments,

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the more indulgences, the more,
ah, ah, ah, works, good works,

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the more one participates, the greater
quantity of grace, is stored in his favor,

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for his eternal salvation.

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See that if you believe in eternal life,
what does it mean?

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That you have less exposure.

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As it is not known according to the
Catholic doctrine, it is not known who is

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going to be saved, and when he is going to
be saved.

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Listen to two things, it is not known who
is going to be saved, and when he is going

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to be saved, for the same reason of the
economy, which implies, that the Catholic

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needs, each person, to reach a certain
quantity, which is uncertain, another

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paradox, a certain quantity is uncertain,
of grace, to exhaust the sins,

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that he has committed during his life.

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Hence, only grace can be obtained,
by receiving mediation of the sacraments,

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which define the same tridentine council,
are the only seven channels of grace.

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Hence, if you believe in eternal life,
but you cannot have, you cannot have,

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contrary to the teaching of Christ,
to the sacrifice of Christ, to the love of

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Christ, and to the promise of Christ,
that he who believes in me, even if he is

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dead, will live, will live, eternally.

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What opinion does Mother Teresa of
Calcutta deserve?

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Well, I wouldn't dare to say, for the sake
of racism, what I say, what I want to say.

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But, I want to say what the Bible says.

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And the Bible, in this sense, God,
the Holy Spirit, clearly says,

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that the one who rebels against the Son,
yes, is already condemned.

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This lady, like the majority, of all the
nuns, who still insist, and persist,

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between tradition and the Bible,
is condemned, eternally, to think of her

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good works, which she is even trying to
do, in order to be able to leave her home.

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In the history of Roman Catholicism,
what is true about a Baptist, in the

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Vatican?

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Not only one, in the papacy, as I have
already explained, even this morning,

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referring to the seminary this morning,
I explained, in great detail, that in the

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degeneration of the papacy, and the
corruption, came to such an extreme,

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before the Protestant Reformation,
came to such an extreme, that two things,

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among other things, happened before the
Inquisition was established, and it is

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worth saying, that even in the second
century, the Inquisition was established,

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not only as a result of the Reformation,
and of the reformers, who were already

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beginning to surrender themselves to
Christ, but even with the degeneration,

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interversion, and immorality, that had
already been exposed to the rest of the

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clergy, including Carlos, where they speak
of them.

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There were even several women,
including Joan the Baptist.

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Related to the papacy of the Borgias,
we have cases like these, including the

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Italian princes, and that these women were
the concubines, including Joan the

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Baptist, who was the concubine of the
previous Pope, who was poisoned to death,

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and that same concubine of the Pope,
took the office of the Pope.

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We have a few more questions left.

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The next one goes like this.

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Do the tongues of the charismatics speak
of the Holy Spirit or not?

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No, not at all.

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They are not of the Holy Spirit.

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They will never be able to do it.

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They are of the spirit of the Antichrist,
the greatest imitator of the Holy Spirit,

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of the tongues of the Holy Spirit,
of the operations of the Holy Spirit,

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and ministries of the Holy Spirit.

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Probably, not only for the Bible,
but for the Catholic doctrine,

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even if it is inconsistent with the
Catholic doctrine.

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To finish this telephone interview,
we want to ask you the last question.

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It goes like this.

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What is the difference between the Gospel
and Roman Catholicism?

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Is it not true that they both follow the
same path?

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No, impossible.

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Not at all.

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Because both have different purposes,
like night and day.

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Specifically, the Catholic religion,
while the Gospel is the product of Christ

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and his Gospel.

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For example, to make it more dramatically
biblical, I choose chapter 2 of the book

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of Acts and chapter 17 of the book of
Revelation.

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And you will realize that the
characteristics of the Catholic religion

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are all expressed in chapter 17 of the
book of Revelation, while the

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characteristics of the Gospel church,
as Christ's wife, was revealed in chapter

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2 of the book of Acts, from its beginning.

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Thank you Dr. Alberto Rivera for granting
us this interview.

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