WEBVTT 00:20.080 --> 00:25.520 CHURCH HISTORY by EUSEBIUS OF CAESAREA by ARTHUR CUSHMAN MCGUIRE. 00:26.230 --> 00:29.940 Book 3, Part 4, Chapters 30-39. 00:31.650 --> 00:38.560 CHAPTER 30 THE APOSTLES THAT WERE MARRIED Clement indeed, whose words we have just 00:38.560 --> 00:43.300 quoted, after the above-mentioned facts, gives a statement on account of those who 00:43.300 --> 00:46.500 rejected marriage of the apostles that had wives. 00:47.050 --> 00:50.160 Or will they, says he, reject even the apostles? 00:50.160 --> 00:55.280 For Peter and Philip begat children, and Philip also gave his daughters in 00:55.280 --> 00:55.720 marriage. 00:56.220 --> 01:00.820 And Paul does not hesitate, in one of his epistles, to greet his wife, whom he did 01:00.820 --> 01:05.000 not take about with him, that he might not be inconvenienced in his ministry. 01:06.840 --> 01:11.240 And since we have mentioned this subject, it is not improper to subjoin another 01:11.240 --> 01:14.480 account which is given by the same author and which is worth reading. 01:14.480 --> 01:18.400 In the seventh book of his Stromata, he writes as follows. 01:19.100 --> 01:23.560 They say accordingly, that when the blessed Peter saw his own wife led out to 01:23.560 --> 01:28.900 die, he rejoiced because of her summons and her return home, and called to her 01:28.900 --> 01:33.420 very encouragingly and comfortingly, addressing her by name, and saying, 01:33.820 --> 01:35.640 O thou, remember the Lord. 01:36.460 --> 01:40.840 Such was the marriage of the blessed, and their perfect disposition toward those 01:40.840 --> 01:41.740 dearest to them. 01:42.360 --> 01:46.940 This account being in keeping with the subject in hand, I have related here in 01:46.940 --> 01:47.960 its proper place. 01:49.420 --> 01:50.620 Chapter 31. 01:51.160 --> 01:52.940 The Death of John and Philip. 01:54.240 --> 01:58.400 The time and the manner of the death of Paul and Peter, as well as their burial 01:58.400 --> 02:00.960 places, have been already shown by us. 02:02.520 --> 02:07.340 The time of John's death has also been given in a general way, but his burial 02:07.340 --> 02:11.900 place is indicated by an epistle of Polycrates, who was bishop of the parish 02:11.900 --> 02:15.280 of Ephesus, addressed to Victor, bishop of Rome. 02:15.780 --> 02:20.060 In this epistle, he mentions him together with the apostle Philip and his daughters 02:20.060 --> 02:21.400 in the following words. 02:23.180 --> 02:28.940 For in Asia also great lights have fallen asleep, which shall rise again on the last 02:28.940 --> 02:33.280 day at the coming of the Lord, when he shall come with glory from heaven 02:33.280 --> 02:34.960 and shall seek out all the saints. 02:35.800 --> 02:40.180 Among these are Philip, one of the twelve apostles, who sleeps in Hierapolis, 02:40.560 --> 02:44.880 and his two aged virgin daughters, and another daughter who lived in the Holy 02:44.880 --> 02:46.900 Spirit and now rests at Ephesus. 02:47.700 --> 02:52.600 And moreover John, who was both a witness and a teacher, who reclined upon the bosom 02:52.600 --> 02:56.240 of the Lord, and being a priest wore the sacerdotal plate. 02:56.780 --> 02:58.440 He also sleeps at Ephesus. 03:00.520 --> 03:02.600 So much concerning their death. 03:02.960 --> 03:07.040 And in the dialogue of Caius, which we mentioned a little above, Proclus, 03:07.240 --> 03:11.660 against whom he directed his disputation, in agreement with what had been quoted, 03:12.040 --> 03:14.840 speaks thus concerning the death of Philip and his daughters. 03:15.300 --> 03:20.280 After him there were four prophetesses, the daughters of Philip, at Hierapolis in 03:20.280 --> 03:20.700 Asia. 03:21.260 --> 03:23.700 Their tomb is there and the tomb of their father. 03:24.320 --> 03:25.520 Such is his statement. 03:26.980 --> 03:31.700 But Luke, in the Acts of the Apostles, mentions the daughters of Philip who were 03:31.700 --> 03:36.100 at that time in Caesarea in Judea with their father, and were honored with the 03:36.100 --> 03:36.880 gift of prophecy. 03:37.340 --> 03:39.000 His words are as follows. 03:39.660 --> 03:43.940 We came unto Caesarea, and entering into the house of Philip the evangelist, 03:44.000 --> 03:46.560 who was one of the seven, we abode with him. 03:46.960 --> 03:50.700 Now this man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy. 03:52.280 --> 03:56.980 We have thus set forth in these pages what has come to our knowledge concerning the 03:56.980 --> 04:02.000 apostles themselves and the apostolic age, and concerning the sacred writings which 04:02.000 --> 04:06.480 they have left us, as well as concerning those which are disputed, but nevertheless 04:06.480 --> 04:11.060 have been publicly used by many in a great number of churches, and moreover, 04:11.340 --> 04:14.880 concerning those that are altogether rejected and are out of harmony with 04:14.880 --> 04:16.420 apostolic orthodoxy. 04:17.000 --> 04:20.000 Having done this, let us now proceed with our history. 04:22.620 --> 04:30.580 Chapter 32 Simeon, Bishop of Jerusalem, Suffers Martyrdom It is reported that 04:30.580 --> 04:34.980 after the age of Nero and Domitian, under the emperor whose times we are now 04:34.980 --> 04:39.340 recording, a persecution was stirred up against us in certain cities in 04:39.340 --> 04:41.220 consequence of a popular uprising. 04:42.000 --> 04:47.200 In this persecution we have understood that Simeon, the son of who, as we have 04:47.200 --> 04:51.620 shown, was the second bishop of the church of Jerusalem, suffered martyrdom. 04:53.480 --> 04:58.040 Hegesippus, whose words we have already quoted in various places, is a witness to 04:58.040 --> 04:59.000 this fact also. 04:59.620 --> 05:04.580 Speaking of certain heretics, he adds that Simeon was accused by them at this time, 05:05.040 --> 05:09.320 and since it was clear that he was a Christian, he was tortured in various ways 05:09.320 --> 05:14.020 for many days, and astonished even the judge himself and his attendants in the 05:14.020 --> 05:18.820 highest degree, and finally he suffered a death similar to that of our Lord. 05:20.780 --> 05:24.800 But there is nothing like hearing the historian himself, who writes as follows. 05:25.380 --> 05:29.440 Certain of these heretics brought accusation against Simeon, the son of 05:29.440 --> 05:33.400 Clopas, on the ground that he was a descendant of David and a Christian, 05:34.040 --> 05:40.180 and thus he suffered martyrdom at the age of 120 years, while Trajan was emperor and 05:40.180 --> 05:41.100 Atticus governor. 05:42.740 --> 05:47.640 And the same writer says that his accusers also, when search was made for the 05:47.640 --> 05:51.320 descendants of David, were arrested as belonging to that family. 05:51.860 --> 05:56.160 And it might be reasonably assumed that Simeon was one of those that saw and heard 05:56.160 --> 06:00.500 the Lord, judging from the length of his life, and from the fact that the gospel 06:00.500 --> 06:05.560 makes mention of Mary, the wife of Clopas, who was the father of Simeon, as has been 06:05.560 --> 06:06.400 already shown. 06:08.540 --> 06:12.740 The same historian says that there were also others, descended from one of the 06:12.740 --> 06:17.200 so-called brothers of the Savior, whose name was Judas, who, after they had 06:17.200 --> 06:21.680 borne testimony before Domitian, as has been already recorded, in behalf of 06:21.680 --> 06:24.560 faith in Christ, lived until the same reign. 06:26.020 --> 06:27.600 He writes as follows. 06:28.120 --> 06:32.940 They came, therefore, and took the lead of every church as witnesses and as relatives 06:32.940 --> 06:33.740 of the Lord. 06:34.440 --> 06:38.620 And profound peace being established in every church, they remained until the 06:38.620 --> 06:43.520 reign of the emperor Trajan, and until the above-mentioned Simeon, son of Clopas, 06:43.680 --> 06:48.940 an uncle of the Lord, was informed against by the heretics, and was himself in like 06:48.940 --> 06:52.080 manner accused for the same cause before the governor Atticus. 06:52.760 --> 06:57.620 And after being tortured for many days he suffered martyrdom, and all, including 06:57.620 --> 07:02.640 even the proconsul, marveled that at the age of one hundred and twenty years he 07:02.640 --> 07:06.800 could endure so much, and orders were given that he should be crucified. 07:08.520 --> 07:12.760 In addition to these things, the same man, while recounting the events of that 07:12.760 --> 07:17.740 period, records that the church up to that time had remained a pure and uncorrupted 07:17.740 --> 07:22.260 virgin, since, if there were any that attempted to corrupt the sound norm of the 07:22.260 --> 07:26.780 preaching of salvation, they lay until then concealed in obscure darkness. 07:28.960 --> 07:33.300 But when the sacred college of apostles had suffered death in various forms, 07:33.820 --> 07:37.760 and the generation of those that had been deemed worthy to hear the inspired wisdom 07:37.760 --> 07:42.440 with their own ears had passed away, then the league of godless error took its 07:42.440 --> 07:47.160 rise as a result of the folly of heretical teachers, who, because none of the 07:47.160 --> 07:52.180 apostles was still living, attempted henceforth, with a bold face, to proclaim, 07:52.480 --> 07:56.520 in opposition to the preaching of the truth, the knowledge which is falsely so 07:56.520 --> 07:57.020 called. 07:58.540 --> 07:59.680 Chapter 33. 08:00.320 --> 08:06.760 Trajan Forbids the Christians to be Sought After So great a persecution was at that 08:06.760 --> 08:12.240 time opened against us in many places that Plinius Secundus, one of the most noted of 08:12.240 --> 08:17.040 governors, being disturbed by the great number of martyrs, communicated with the 08:17.040 --> 08:20.880 emperor concerning the multitude of those that were put to death for their faith. 08:21.340 --> 08:25.580 At the same time, he informed him in his communication that he had not heard of 08:25.580 --> 08:30.360 their doing anything profane or contrary to the laws, except that they arose at 08:30.360 --> 08:35.200 dawn and sang hymns to Christ as a god, but that they renounced adultery and 08:35.200 --> 08:39.080 murder and like criminal offenses, and did all things in accordance with the 08:39.080 --> 08:39.440 laws. 08:40.920 --> 08:45.280 In reply to this, Trajan made the following decree, that the race of 08:45.280 --> 08:49.120 Christians should not be sought after, but when found should be punished. 08:49.640 --> 08:54.020 On account of this, the persecution which had threatened to be a most terrible one 08:54.020 --> 08:58.300 was to a certain degree checked, but there were still left plenty of 08:58.300 --> 09:01.020 pretexts for those who wished to do us harm. 09:01.640 --> 09:06.740 Sometimes the people, sometimes the rulers in various places would lay plots against 09:06.740 --> 09:11.200 us, so that, although no great persecutions took place, local 09:11.200 --> 09:15.820 persecutions were nevertheless going on in particular provinces, and many of the 09:15.820 --> 09:18.340 faithful endured martyrdom in various forms. 09:20.040 --> 09:24.700 We have taken our account from the Latin Apology of Tertullian, which we mentioned 09:24.700 --> 09:25.200 above. 09:25.520 --> 09:30.060 The translation runs as follows, and indeed we have found that search for 09:30.060 --> 09:34.620 us has been forbidden, for when Plinius Secundus, the governor of a province, 09:34.960 --> 09:38.160 had condemned certain Christians and deprived them of their dignity, 09:38.620 --> 09:43.000 he was confounded by the multitude, and was uncertain what further course to 09:43.000 --> 09:43.440 pursue. 09:44.320 --> 09:49.260 He therefore communicated with Trajan the emperor, informing him that, aside from 09:49.260 --> 09:53.800 their unwillingness to sacrifice, he had found no impiety in them. 09:55.460 --> 09:59.880 And he reported this also, that the Christians arose early in the morning and 09:59.880 --> 10:03.980 sang hymns unto Christ as a god, and for the purpose of preserving their 10:03.980 --> 10:08.600 discipline forbade murder, adultery, avarice, robbery, and the like. 10:09.120 --> 10:12.900 In reply to this, Trajan wrote that the race of Christians should not be sought 10:12.900 --> 10:15.140 after, but when found should be punished. 10:15.920 --> 10:18.600 Such were the events which took place at that time. 10:26.000 --> 10:31.080 In the third year of the reign of the emperor mentioned above, Clement committed 10:31.080 --> 10:35.980 the episcopal government of the Church of Rome to Everestus, and departed this life 10:35.980 --> 10:40.320 after he had superintended the teaching of the divine word nine years in all. 10:46.400 --> 10:51.840 But when Simeon also had died in the manner described, a certain Jew by the 10:51.840 --> 10:55.280 name of Justus succeeded to the episcopal throne in Jerusalem. 10:56.200 --> 11:00.520 He was one of the many thousands of the circumcision who at that time believed in 11:00.520 --> 11:00.960 Christ. 11:07.360 --> 11:12.980 At that time Polycarp, a disciple of the apostles, was a man of eminence in Asia, 11:13.520 --> 11:17.540 having been entrusted with the episcopate of the Church of Smyrna by those who had 11:17.540 --> 11:18.820 seen and heard the Lord. 11:20.420 --> 11:26.200 And at the same time Papias, bishop of the parish of Hierapolis, became well known, 11:26.540 --> 11:31.760 as did also Ignatius, who was chosen bishop of Antioch, second in succession to 11:31.760 --> 11:35.160 Peter, and whose fame is still celebrated by a great many. 11:36.740 --> 11:42.000 Report says that he was sent from Syria to Rome, and became food for wild beasts on 11:42.000 --> 11:43.800 account of his testimony to Christ. 11:45.120 --> 11:49.700 And as he made the journey through Asia under the strictest military surveillance, 11:50.320 --> 11:54.860 he fortified the parishes in the various cities where he stopped by oral homilies 11:54.860 --> 11:59.300 and exhortations, and warned them above all to be especially on their guard 11:59.300 --> 12:03.720 against the heresies that were then beginning to prevail, and exhorted them to 12:03.720 --> 12:05.960 hold fast to the tradition of the apostles. 12:06.840 --> 12:10.640 Moreover, he thought it necessary to attest that tradition in writing, 12:11.120 --> 12:14.260 and to give it a fixed form for the sake of greater security. 12:15.760 --> 12:21.020 So when he came to Smyrna, where Polycarp was, he wrote an epistle to the Church of 12:21.020 --> 12:26.160 Ephesus, in which he mentions Onesimus, its pastor, and another to the Church of 12:26.160 --> 12:31.000 Magnesia, situated upon the meander, in which he makes mention again of a 12:31.000 --> 12:35.520 bishop Domus, and finally one to the Church of Trolles, whose bishop, 12:35.620 --> 12:37.860 he states, was at that time Polybius. 12:39.680 --> 12:44.560 In addition to these, he wrote also to the Church of Rome, entreating them not to 12:44.560 --> 12:48.580 secure his release from martyrdom, and thus rob him of his earnest hope. 12:49.320 --> 12:53.220 In confirmation of what has been said, it is proper to quote briefly from this 12:53.220 --> 12:53.640 epistle. 12:54.760 --> 12:56.560 He writes as follows. 12:57.080 --> 13:01.960 From Syria even unto Rome I fight with wild beasts, by land and by sea, 13:02.260 --> 13:07.100 by night and by day, being bound amidst ten leopards, that is, a company of 13:07.100 --> 13:10.020 soldiers who only become worse when they are well treated. 13:10.720 --> 13:14.200 In the midst of their wrongdoings, however, I am more fully learning 13:14.200 --> 13:17.060 discipleship, but I am not thereby justified. 13:18.560 --> 13:23.240 May I have joy of the beasts that are prepared for me, and I pray that I may 13:23.240 --> 13:24.100 find them ready. 13:24.460 --> 13:28.420 I will even coax them to devour me quickly, that they may not treat me as 13:28.420 --> 13:31.140 they have some whom they have refused to touch through fear. 13:31.720 --> 13:34.400 And if they are unwilling, I will compel them. 13:34.820 --> 13:35.480 Forgive me. 13:36.980 --> 13:39.100 I know what is expedient for me. 13:39.400 --> 13:41.460 Now do I begin to be a disciple. 13:42.140 --> 13:47.140 May naught of things visible and things invisible envy me, that I may attain unto 13:47.140 --> 13:48.100 Jesus Christ. 13:48.620 --> 13:53.080 Let fire and cross and attacks of wild beasts, let wrenching of bones, 13:53.320 --> 13:58.300 cutting of limbs, crushing of the whole body, tortures of the devil, let all these 13:58.300 --> 14:01.800 come upon me, if only I may attain unto Jesus Christ. 14:03.720 --> 14:07.060 These things he wrote from the above-mentioned city to the churches 14:07.060 --> 14:07.960 referred to. 14:08.500 --> 14:13.220 And when he had left Smyrna, he wrote again from Troas to the Philadelphians and 14:13.220 --> 14:18.300 to the church of Smyrna, and particularly to Polycarp, who presided over the latter 14:18.300 --> 14:18.820 church. 14:19.460 --> 14:24.620 And since he knew him well as an apostolic man, he commended to him like a true and 14:24.620 --> 14:29.600 good shepherd the flock at Antioch, and besought him to care diligently for 14:29.600 --> 14:29.860 it. 14:31.500 --> 14:35.880 And the same man, writing to the Smyrnians, used the following words 14:35.880 --> 14:41.140 concerning Christ, taken I know not whence, but I know and believe that he was 14:41.140 --> 14:42.840 in the flesh after the resurrection. 14:43.480 --> 14:47.280 And when he came to Peter and his companions, he said to them, Take, 14:47.520 --> 14:51.020 handle me, and see that I am not an incorporeal spirit. 14:51.400 --> 14:53.960 And immediately they touched him and believed. 14:56.080 --> 15:00.140 Irenaeus also knew of his martyrdom and mentions his epistles in the following 15:00.140 --> 15:00.680 words. 15:01.100 --> 15:05.260 As one of our people said, when he was condemned to the beasts on account of his 15:05.260 --> 15:10.480 testimony unto God, I am God's wheat, and by the teeth of wild beasts am I 15:10.480 --> 15:13.260 ground, that I may be found pure bread. 15:15.560 --> 15:19.140 Polycarp also mentions these letters in the epistle to the Philippians, 15:19.220 --> 15:20.500 which is ascribed to him. 15:20.840 --> 15:22.560 His words are as follows. 15:23.060 --> 15:27.080 I exhort all of you, therefore, to be obedient, and to practice all 15:27.080 --> 15:31.480 patience, such as ye saw with your own eyes, not only in the blessed Ignatius, 15:31.620 --> 15:36.880 and Rufus, and Zosimas, but also in others from among yourselves, as well as in Paul 15:36.880 --> 15:41.720 himself, and the rest of the apostles, being persuaded that all these ran not in 15:41.720 --> 15:46.180 vain, but in faith and righteousness, and that they are gone to their rightful 15:46.180 --> 15:49.420 place beside the Lord, with whom also they suffered. 15:49.980 --> 15:54.620 For they loved not the present world, but him that died for our sakes and was 15:54.620 --> 15:56.360 raised by God for us. 15:58.060 --> 16:03.220 And afterwards he adds, You have written to me, both you and Ignatius, that if 16:03.220 --> 16:07.000 anyone go to Syria, he may carry with him the letters from you. 16:07.600 --> 16:12.840 And this I will do if I have a suitable opportunity, either I myself, or one whom 16:12.840 --> 16:15.260 I send to be an ambassador for you also. 16:17.160 --> 16:22.140 The epistles of Ignatius which were sent to us by him, and the others which we had 16:22.140 --> 16:24.800 with us we sent to you as you gave charge. 16:25.380 --> 16:29.920 They are appended to this epistle, and from them you will be able to derive 16:29.920 --> 16:30.860 great advantage. 16:31.300 --> 16:35.480 For they comprise faith and patience, and every kind of edification that 16:35.480 --> 16:36.820 pertaineth to our Lord. 16:37.460 --> 16:42.800 So much concerning Ignatius, but he was succeeded by Heros in the episcopate of 16:42.800 --> 16:44.120 the church of Antioch. 16:46.580 --> 16:47.660 Chapter 37. 16:48.140 --> 16:51.100 The Evangelists that were still imminent at that time. 16:51.860 --> 16:57.120 Among those that were celebrated at that time was Quadratus, who, report says, 16:57.260 --> 17:00.820 was renowned along with the daughters of Philip for his prophetical gifts. 17:01.460 --> 17:05.660 And there were many others besides these who were known in those days, and who 17:05.660 --> 17:08.620 occupied the first place among the successors of the apostles. 17:09.320 --> 17:14.300 And they also, being illustrious disciples of such great men, built up the 17:14.300 --> 17:18.300 foundations of the churches which had been laid by the apostles in every place, 17:18.640 --> 17:22.540 and preached the gospel more and more widely, and scattered the saving seeds of 17:22.540 --> 17:25.880 the kingdom of heaven far and near throughout the whole world. 17:27.300 --> 17:32.580 For indeed most of the disciples of that time, animated by the divine word and with 17:32.580 --> 17:36.780 a more ardent love for philosophy, had already fulfilled the command of the 17:36.780 --> 17:39.760 Savior, and had distributed their goods to the needy. 17:40.340 --> 17:44.480 Then starting out upon long journeys they performed the office of evangelists, 17:45.020 --> 17:48.740 being filled with the desire to preach Christ to those who had not yet heard the 17:48.740 --> 17:52.400 word of faith, and to deliver to them the divine gospels. 17:54.160 --> 17:57.440 And when they had only laid the foundations of the faith in foreign 17:57.440 --> 18:02.480 places, they appointed others as pastors, and entrusted them with the nurture of 18:02.480 --> 18:06.860 those that had recently been brought in, while they themselves went on again to 18:06.860 --> 18:10.840 other countries and nations, with the grace and the cooperation of God. 18:11.520 --> 18:15.420 For a great many wonderful works were done through them by the power of the divine 18:15.420 --> 18:20.120 Spirit, so that at the first hearing whole multitudes of men eagerly embraced the 18:20.120 --> 18:21.960 religion of the Creator of the universe. 18:24.140 --> 18:28.620 But since it is impossible for us to enumerate the names of all that became 18:28.620 --> 18:32.300 shepherds or evangelists in the churches throughout the world in the age 18:32.300 --> 18:36.660 immediately succeeding the apostles, we have recorded, as was fitting, 18:37.140 --> 18:40.980 the names of those only who have transmitted the apostolic doctrine to us 18:40.980 --> 18:42.560 in writings still extant. 18:45.020 --> 18:45.860 Chapter 38. 18:46.380 --> 18:49.920 The Epistle of Clement and the Writings Falsely Ascribed to Him. 18:50.980 --> 18:55.760 Thus Ignatius has done in the epistles which we have mentioned, and Clement in 18:55.760 --> 18:59.720 his epistle which is accepted by all, and which he wrote in the name of the 18:59.720 --> 19:01.540 Church of Rome to the Church of Corinth. 19:02.420 --> 19:06.300 In this epistle he gives many thoughts drawn from the epistle to the Hebrews, 19:06.300 --> 19:11.320 and also quotes verbally some of its expressions, thus showing most plainly 19:11.320 --> 19:13.140 that it is not a recent production. 19:14.760 --> 19:18.700 Wherefore it has seemed reasonable to reckon it with the other writings of the 19:18.700 --> 19:19.060 apostle. 19:19.800 --> 19:24.180 For as Paul had written to the Hebrews in his native tongue, some say that the 19:24.180 --> 19:28.620 evangelist Luke, others that this Clement himself, translated the epistle. 19:30.100 --> 19:34.860 The latter seems more probable, because the epistle of Clement and that to 19:34.860 --> 19:39.900 the Hebrews have a similar character in regard to style, and still further because 19:39.900 --> 19:43.040 the thoughts contained in the two works are not very different. 19:44.660 --> 19:49.300 But it must be observed also that there is said to be a second epistle of Clement, 19:49.860 --> 19:54.520 but we do not know that it is recognized like the former, for we do not find that 19:54.520 --> 19:56.580 the ancients have made any use of it. 19:58.480 --> 20:02.600 And certain men have lately brought forward other wordy and lengthy writings 20:02.600 --> 20:07.980 under his name, containing dialogues of Peter and Apion, but no mention has been 20:07.980 --> 20:11.680 made of these by the ancients, for they do not even preserve the pure 20:11.680 --> 20:13.680 stamp of apostolic orthodoxy. 20:14.320 --> 20:16.760 The acknowledged writing of Clement is well known. 20:17.280 --> 20:20.640 We have spoken also of the works of Ignatius and Polycarp. 20:22.650 --> 20:29.660 CHAPTER 39 THE WRITINGS OF PAPIUS There are extant five books of Papius, 20:30.020 --> 20:33.480 which bear the title Expositions of Oracles of the Lord. 20:34.280 --> 20:38.440 Irenaeus makes mention of these as the only works written by him in the following 20:38.440 --> 20:38.960 words. 20:39.720 --> 20:44.340 These things are attested by Papius, an ancient man who was a hearer of John 20:44.340 --> 20:47.360 and a companion of Polycarp, in his fourth book. 20:47.900 --> 20:49.880 For five books have been written by him. 20:50.500 --> 20:52.080 These are the words of Irenaeus. 20:53.280 --> 20:58.240 But Papius himself in the preface to his Discourses by no means declares that he 20:58.240 --> 21:02.980 was himself a hearer and eyewitness of the holy apostles, but he shows by the words 21:02.980 --> 21:06.700 which he uses that he received the doctrines of the faith from those who were 21:06.700 --> 21:07.400 their friends. 21:09.120 --> 21:13.760 He says, But I shall not hesitate also to put down for you along with my 21:13.760 --> 21:18.440 interpretations whatsoever things I have at any time learned carefully from the 21:18.440 --> 21:22.100 elders and carefully remembered, guaranteeing their truth. 21:22.480 --> 21:26.800 For I did not, like the multitude, take pleasure in those that speak much, 21:27.160 --> 21:30.840 but in those that teach the truth, not in those that relate strange 21:30.840 --> 21:34.980 commandments, but in those that deliver the commandments given by the Lord to 21:34.980 --> 21:37.380 faith, and springing from the truth itself. 21:38.860 --> 21:44.060 If then any one came who had been a follower of the elders, I questioned him 21:44.060 --> 21:48.000 in regard to the words of the elders, what Andrew or what Peter said, 21:48.240 --> 21:52.820 or what was said by Philip or by Thomas or by James or by John or by Matthew, 21:52.820 --> 21:57.800 or by any other of the disciples of the Lord, and what things Aristion and the 21:57.800 --> 22:00.780 presbyter John, the disciples of the Lord, say. 22:01.360 --> 22:05.700 For I did not think that what was to be gotten from the books would profit me as 22:05.700 --> 22:08.340 much as what came from the living and abiding voice. 22:10.200 --> 22:14.900 It is worthwhile observing here that the name John is twice enumerated by him. 22:15.320 --> 22:19.520 The first one he mentions in connection with Peter and James and Matthew and the 22:19.520 --> 22:22.500 rest of the apostles, clearly meaning the evangelist. 22:23.040 --> 22:27.360 But the other John he mentions after an interval, and places him among others 22:27.360 --> 22:31.900 outside of the number of the apostles, putting Aristion before him, and he 22:31.900 --> 22:33.640 distinctly calls him a presbyter. 22:35.060 --> 22:39.440 This shows that the statement of those is true who say that there were two persons 22:39.440 --> 22:43.800 in Asia that bore the same name, and that there were two tombs in Ephesus, 22:44.240 --> 22:47.680 each of which, even to the present day, is called John's. 22:48.260 --> 22:52.640 It is important to notice this, for it is probable that it was the second, 22:53.000 --> 22:56.420 if one is not willing to admit that it was the first that saw the revelation, 22:56.920 --> 22:59.020 which is ascribed by name to John. 23:00.900 --> 23:05.560 And Poppius, of whom we are now speaking, confesses that he received the words of 23:05.560 --> 23:09.960 the apostles from those that followed them, but says that he was himself a 23:09.960 --> 23:12.440 hearer of Aristion and the presbyter John. 23:13.180 --> 23:17.600 At least he mentions them frequently by name, and gives their traditions in his 23:17.600 --> 23:18.060 writings. 23:18.600 --> 23:22.440 These things, we hope, have not been uselessly adduced by us. 23:24.580 --> 23:29.080 But it is fitting to subjoin to the words of Poppius which have been quoted other 23:29.080 --> 23:33.020 passages from his works in which he relates some other wonderful events which 23:33.020 --> 23:35.020 he claims to have received from tradition. 23:37.440 --> 23:41.320 That Philip the Apostle dwelt at Hierapolis with his daughters has been 23:41.320 --> 23:45.580 already stated, but it must be noted here that Poppius, their contemporary, 23:46.300 --> 23:50.500 says that he heard a wonderful tale from the daughters of Philip, for he relates 23:50.500 --> 23:55.460 that in his time one rose from the dead, and he tells another wonderful story of 23:55.460 --> 24:01.140 justice, surnamed Barsabbas, that he drank a deadly poison, and yet by the grace of 24:01.140 --> 24:02.780 the Lord suffered no harm. 24:04.360 --> 24:08.480 The Book of Acts records that the holy apostles, after the ascension of the 24:08.480 --> 24:13.520 Savior, put forward this justice together with Matthias, and prayed that one might 24:13.520 --> 24:17.200 be chosen in place of the traitor Judas to fill up their number. 24:17.860 --> 24:22.800 The account is as follows, and they put forward two, Joseph called Barsabbas, 24:23.060 --> 24:27.600 who was surnamed Justice, and Matthias, and they prayed and said. 24:28.700 --> 24:32.740 The same writer gives also other accounts which he says came to him through 24:32.740 --> 24:37.060 unwritten tradition, certain strange parables and teachings of the Savior, 24:37.480 --> 24:39.620 and some other more mythical things. 24:41.440 --> 24:45.960 To these belong his statement that there will be a period of some thousand years 24:45.960 --> 24:49.940 after the resurrection of the dead, and that the kingdom of Christ will be set 24:49.940 --> 24:52.220 up in material form on this very earth. 24:52.900 --> 24:56.740 I suppose he got these ideas through a misunderstanding of the apostolic 24:56.740 --> 25:01.200 accounts, not perceiving that the things said by them were spoken mystically in 25:01.200 --> 25:01.600 figures. 25:03.340 --> 25:08.300 For he appears to have been of very limited understanding, as one can see from 25:08.300 --> 25:13.200 his discourses, but it was due to him that so many of the church fathers after him 25:13.200 --> 25:17.980 adopted a like opinion, urging in their own support the antiquity of the man, 25:18.460 --> 25:22.980 as for instance Irenaeus and anyone else that may have proclaimed similar views. 25:25.260 --> 25:29.880 Papias gives also in his own work other accounts of the words of the Lord on the 25:29.880 --> 25:34.760 authority of Aristion, who was mentioned above, and traditions as handed down by 25:34.760 --> 25:38.600 the presbyter John, to whom we refer those who are fond of learning. 25:39.200 --> 25:43.420 But now we must add to the words of his which we have already quoted the tradition 25:43.420 --> 25:46.680 which he gives in regard to Mark, the author of the gospel. 25:48.380 --> 25:53.380 This also the presbyter said, Mark, having become the interpreter of Peter, 25:53.740 --> 25:58.140 wrote down accurately, though not in order, whatsoever he remembered of the 25:58.140 --> 26:00.120 things said or done by Christ. 26:00.760 --> 26:05.060 For he neither heard the Lord nor followed him, but afterward, as I said, 26:05.180 --> 26:09.320 he followed Peter, who adapted his teaching to the needs of his hearers, 26:09.660 --> 26:12.920 but with no intention of giving a connected account of the Lord's 26:12.920 --> 26:17.900 discourses, so that Mark committed no error while he thus wrote some things as 26:17.900 --> 26:18.800 he remembered them. 26:19.220 --> 26:23.360 For he was careful of one thing, not to omit any of the things which he had 26:23.360 --> 26:26.120 heard, and not to state any of them falsely. 26:26.820 --> 26:30.000 These things are related by Papias concerning Mark. 26:31.880 --> 26:34.380 But concerning Matthew he writes as follows. 26:34.720 --> 26:39.580 So then Matthew wrote the oracles in the Hebrew language, and every one interpreted 26:39.580 --> 26:40.960 them as he was able. 26:41.660 --> 26:46.020 And the same writer uses testimonies from the first epistle of John, and from that 26:46.020 --> 26:46.920 of Peter likewise. 26:47.640 --> 26:52.060 And he relates another story of a woman, who was accused of many sins before the 26:52.060 --> 26:55.200 Lord, which is contained in the gospel according to the Hebrews. 26:55.960 --> 27:00.100 These things we have thought it necessary to observe in addition to what has been 27:00.100 --> 27:00.960 already stated.