WEBVTT 00:01.140 --> 00:14.280 As has been announced, I want to speak tonight upon Dr. Billy Graham, the supporter of Romanism 00:14.280 --> 00:16.020 and Ecumenism. 00:16.580 --> 00:25.880 If you have your Bible, turn with me to the 19th chapter of the 2nd book of Chronicles. 00:25.880 --> 00:30.540 2nd Chronicles, chapter 19. 00:31.380 --> 00:44.020 Chapter 15 of the 2nd book of Chronicles and chapter 19 deal with a king called Jehoshaphat. 00:45.140 --> 00:46.720 He was a good king. 00:48.020 --> 00:50.000 He was a godly king. 00:50.000 --> 00:58.160 In his day he did many good things and many bad things. 00:59.260 --> 01:04.380 But alas, through pressures he customized. 01:05.980 --> 01:10.880 He entered into the league with the ungodly. 01:12.300 --> 01:17.160 He made an alliance with the forces of falsehood. 01:18.160 --> 01:26.720 And one day he was met by Jehu, the son of Hannai, the seer. 01:27.140 --> 01:35.460 And he went out to meet him and said to King Jehoshaphat, and these are his words, 2nd 01:35.460 --> 01:57.440 Chronicles, chapter 19, and verse 2, Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the 01:57.440 --> 02:08.440 Lord, therefore is wrath upon me from before the Lord. 02:09.440 --> 02:27.720 Shouldest thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord, therefore is wrath upon me from 02:27.720 --> 02:31.000 before the Lord. 02:33.460 --> 02:46.460 Before I come to give you the facts this evening concerning the support that Dr. Graham gives to 02:46.460 --> 02:57.460 the Roman Catholic Church and to the ecumenical movement, I want very briefly to set before you 02:57.460 --> 03:03.220 the facts concerning the Roman Catholic Church. 03:04.560 --> 03:18.200 Because in these days there is so much falsehood, so much deception, that even God's people don't 03:18.200 --> 03:31.580 seem to be aware of the real nature of the Roman Catholic system, the real nature of its dogmas, 03:32.420 --> 03:36.000 and the real nature of its practices. 03:37.220 --> 03:46.780 I have in my hand a textbook which is a must for every Roman Catholic priest. 03:46.780 --> 03:57.280 This is a book that sets out the dignity and duties of the priest. 03:58.280 --> 04:13.880 It is written by Alphonsus Liguri, who in the Roman Catholic Church is one of the greatest of 04:13.880 --> 04:19.440 the saints, Saint Alphonsus Liguri. 04:20.440 --> 04:34.180 And the Church of Rome is so caught up with the teachings of Liguri that in the notice that 04:34.180 --> 04:47.280 appears in front of this book, it says, Let Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and Alphonsus. 04:47.980 --> 04:56.180 So the Church of Rome puts this saint on a par with the Lord Jesus Christ. 04:57.460 --> 05:02.740 What has this book to say about the Roman Catholic priest? 05:03.720 --> 05:08.880 What is the place of the priest in the Roman Catholic Church? 05:10.000 --> 05:18.000 How many Protestants in this meeting are aware that Rome teaches that Jesus didn't die to save 05:18.000 --> 05:18.460 sinners? 05:19.420 --> 05:24.180 He didn't die to make an atonement to take away sin. 05:25.580 --> 05:29.100 He didn't die because man were sinners. 05:30.000 --> 05:39.060 He died for one purpose only, and that was to make Roman Catholic priests. 05:39.060 --> 05:42.080 You say that's a fantastic statement. 05:42.780 --> 05:43.540 That is not. 05:43.660 --> 05:45.880 That's the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. 05:46.440 --> 05:48.400 Let me read it to you. 05:49.280 --> 05:55.360 Jesus has died to institute the priesthood. 05:56.540 --> 06:05.320 It was not necessary for the Redeemer to die in order to save the world. 06:05.320 --> 06:18.160 A drop of His blood, a single tear, or prayer was sufficient to procure the salvation for all. 06:18.920 --> 06:29.460 For such a prayer, being of infinite value, should be sufficient to save not one, but a thousand 06:29.460 --> 06:29.980 worlds. 06:29.980 --> 06:40.200 But to institute the priesthood, the death of Jesus Christ has been necessary. 06:41.380 --> 06:51.200 Had He not died, where should we find the victim that the priests of the New Law now offer? 06:51.200 --> 07:01.760 A victim altogether holy and immaculate, capable of giving to God an honor worthy of God. 07:02.320 --> 07:14.960 As has already been said, all of the lives of men and angels are not capable of giving to God an 07:14.960 --> 07:23.880 infinite honor like that which a priest offers to God by a single mass. 07:25.500 --> 07:28.020 Jesus didn't die for the ungodly. 07:28.120 --> 07:29.300 That's what the Bible says. 07:29.440 --> 07:30.200 Rome says no. 07:31.040 --> 07:41.740 This man has the book, offered himself without spot unto God, but sacrificed for sin. 07:42.640 --> 07:45.080 No, sir, says the Church of Rome. 07:45.700 --> 07:52.700 The Church of Rome says He died in order that we should have such a system as the system of the 07:52.700 --> 07:54.040 Roman Catholic priesthood. 07:55.180 --> 07:59.700 This book goes on to tell us about the power of the priest. 08:02.240 --> 08:05.980 Every Roman Catholic priest claims to have this power. 08:06.260 --> 08:07.420 Let me read it to you. 08:07.420 --> 08:18.000 With regard to the mystic body of Christ, that is all the faithful, the priest has the power of the 08:18.000 --> 08:29.660 keys, or the power of delivering sinners from hell, of making them worthy of paradise, of 08:29.660 --> 08:37.040 changing them from the slaves of Satan into the children of God. 08:37.660 --> 08:41.000 Pilgrim's working at it, but he's not making much progress. 08:42.340 --> 08:57.020 And God Himself, God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priests. 08:57.020 --> 09:09.940 And either not to pardon, or to pardon according as they refuse, or give up solution provided the 09:09.940 --> 09:12.000 penitent is capable of it. 09:12.820 --> 09:18.840 So God in heaven has His hands tied by the priesthood. 09:19.540 --> 09:25.080 And if the priest doesn't pardon you, God can't pardon you. 09:25.080 --> 09:28.140 There's not a hope for any of you free Presbyterians. 09:28.360 --> 09:28.920 Not a chance. 09:29.340 --> 09:31.100 You haven't got a chance at all. 09:32.300 --> 09:34.960 This is what Rome teaches about her own priests. 09:35.120 --> 09:35.840 Listen to this. 09:36.800 --> 09:46.640 And let me say, these are the men that Billy Graham welcomed to his meetings and invited to his 09:46.640 --> 09:49.440 congress of evangelism. 09:50.440 --> 09:54.960 We had Richard Wormbrat in our church the other Sunday morning. 09:55.560 --> 10:02.580 Are you aware that Billy Graham would not allow Richard Wormbrat to go to his congress of 10:02.580 --> 10:04.640 evangelism in Berlin? 10:05.020 --> 10:09.320 Because Richard Wormbrat said he would expose communism. 10:09.860 --> 10:14.880 And Billy said we will have no exposure of communism in our congress. 10:14.880 --> 10:20.280 And Wormbrat said I have been tortured by communism. 10:20.620 --> 10:25.780 And Billy said we are going to have no controversy in our congress. 10:27.100 --> 10:30.540 Listen to this, the claims of the Church of Rome. 10:31.260 --> 10:39.380 Were the Redeemer to descend into a church and sit in a confessional to administer the sacrament of 10:39.380 --> 10:46.980 penance, and a priest to sit in another confessional, Jesus would say over each penitent, 10:47.420 --> 10:49.420 ego te absolvo. 10:49.820 --> 10:56.420 The priest would likewise say over each of his penitents, ego te absolvo. 10:56.820 --> 11:02.380 And the penitents of each would be equally absolved. 11:03.380 --> 11:08.400 So the priest and Jesus are not apart. 11:10.140 --> 11:16.040 And the priest has as much power as Jesus. 11:17.060 --> 11:27.120 But then this book goes on, and it says the priesthood is superior to Melek. 11:27.120 --> 11:32.460 He conceived Jesus Christ only once. 11:33.480 --> 11:43.880 But by consecrating the Eucharist, the Mass, the priest as it were, conceives Him as often as he 11:43.880 --> 11:44.320 wishes. 11:44.960 --> 11:56.580 So that if the person of the Redeemer had not as yet been in the world, the priest, by pronouncing 11:56.580 --> 12:04.260 the words of consecration, would put just the great person of the God-man. 12:04.800 --> 12:06.520 You ever listen to such blasphemy? 12:08.080 --> 12:17.740 And it goes on to say that the priest may in a certain manner be called the creator of his 12:17.740 --> 12:18.400 creator. 12:20.260 --> 12:22.660 That's the system of Rome. 12:23.420 --> 12:27.100 That's the textbook of popery. 12:28.120 --> 12:36.380 That has upon it the prime mark of the Antichrist. 12:37.720 --> 12:44.180 And every priest of Rome claims to have this particular power. 12:45.460 --> 12:55.400 Now, what has been the historic attitude of the Protestant churches to Roman Catholicism? 12:57.220 --> 13:02.880 I will just take the main creeds of the great churches. 13:03.600 --> 13:05.740 The Episcopal Church of England. 13:06.720 --> 13:12.160 This is what it says in the historic 39 articles. 13:13.920 --> 13:19.660 Transubstantiation, or the change of the substance of bread and wine in the supper of the Lord, 13:20.220 --> 13:27.980 cannot be proved by holy writ, but is repugnant to the plain words of Scripture, overthrow of the 13:27.980 --> 13:33.940 nature of a sacrament, and have given occasion to many superstitions. 13:34.620 --> 13:41.640 Wherefore, the sacrifices of masses, in the which it was commonly said that the priests did offer 13:41.640 --> 13:48.140 Christ for the quick and the dead to a remission of penitent guilt, were blasphemous feebles and 13:48.140 --> 13:49.840 dangerous deceits. 13:50.300 --> 13:54.060 That's the established Church of England, their historical stance. 13:54.060 --> 14:01.680 The Presbyterian Church, in its Westminster Confession of Theism, says, There is no other head 14:01.680 --> 14:10.020 of the Church but the Lord Jesus, nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense behead the law, but is that 14:10.020 --> 14:19.040 Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalted himself in the Church against Christ 14:19.040 --> 14:22.200 and all that is called God. 14:22.200 --> 14:30.560 The Methodist Church, John Wesley, in his Commentary on the New Testament, says, However in 14:30.560 --> 14:37.940 many respects the Pope has an indisputable claim to the title man of sin. 14:38.820 --> 14:48.500 He is in an emphatical sense the man of sin, as he increases all manner of sin up a measure. 14:48.500 --> 14:56.900 And he is too properly styled the son of perdition, as he has caused the death of 14:56.900 --> 15:05.840 numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers, destroyed innumerable souls, and will 15:05.840 --> 15:09.080 himself perish everlastingly. 15:10.100 --> 15:17.940 The Old Baptist Confession of Theism says, The Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the Church, in 15:17.940 --> 15:25.100 whom by the appointment of the Father all power for the calling, institution, order, or government 15:25.100 --> 15:30.060 of the Church is infested in a supreme and sovereign manner. 15:30.880 --> 15:39.180 Neither can the Pope of Rome in any sense behead the law, but is no other than Antichrist, that man 15:39.180 --> 15:46.920 of sin and son of perdition, that exulteth himself in the Church against Christ and all that is 15:46.920 --> 15:53.420 called God, whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. 15:54.100 --> 15:59.040 The Savoy Confession of Theism, the old Congregational Confession of Theism. 15:59.300 --> 16:02.220 There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus. 16:02.800 --> 16:11.040 Nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense behead the law, but it is that Antichrist, that man of sin 16:11.040 --> 16:18.580 and son of perdition, that exulteth himself in the Church against Christ and all that is called God, 16:18.940 --> 16:23.000 whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. 16:23.000 --> 16:33.640 So the great standards of the astronomic promised intentions viewed the system of Rome as 16:33.640 --> 16:45.100 Antichristianity, and viewed the Pope as the representative of that system of Antichristianity 16:45.100 --> 16:48.600 and the Antichrist in the Church. 16:48.600 --> 16:55.420 And a forerunner of the final great expression of Antichrist in the last days. 16:56.340 --> 17:00.120 But we live in strange days. 17:01.180 --> 17:03.680 We live in days of compromise. 17:03.680 --> 17:09.540 One of the great tenements of the Church of Rome is baptism and regeneration. 17:10.960 --> 17:23.020 That a child that baptizes, when the priest carries out the sacrament, the priest by his power 17:23.020 --> 17:27.280 causes regeneration to take place. 17:27.280 --> 17:38.060 The devil is cast out, original sin is cleansed, and the soul of the child is regenerated. 17:39.040 --> 17:42.460 That is the doctrine of Rome. 17:43.280 --> 17:50.400 That is the doctrine to which today Dr. Billy Graham subscribes. 17:50.400 --> 17:58.520 You say, surely you are not telling me that a Baptist preacher who does not believe in infant 17:58.520 --> 18:03.840 baptism in any way, should believe in baptismal regeneration? 18:05.220 --> 18:13.080 I have a photostat copy, and by the way, the facts concerning Billy Graham can all be found in this 18:13.080 --> 18:19.440 book, Billy Graham and the Church of Rome, written by myself in 1907. 18:19.440 --> 18:26.560 It is a two-edition, and the Billy Graham organization were to provide an answer, but they 18:26.560 --> 18:27.940 have never answered it. 18:28.040 --> 18:31.520 Because it's the facts, the indisputable facts. 18:32.120 --> 18:42.120 Here is what he says, I still have some personal problems in the matter of infant baptism, but all 18:42.120 --> 18:49.300 of my children, with the exception of the youngest, were baptized as infants. 18:50.360 --> 18:56.140 I do believe that something happens at the baptism of an infant. 18:56.140 --> 18:57.420 I'll tell you what happens. 18:57.780 --> 18:59.300 It's wetter, but no better. 19:04.560 --> 19:09.140 But all of my children, with the exception of the youngest, were baptized as infants. 19:09.140 --> 19:19.180 I do believe that something happens at the baptism of an infant, particularly if the parents are 19:19.180 --> 19:26.220 Christian, and teach their children Christian truths from childhood. 19:26.220 --> 19:29.440 Because that is a contradiction. 19:30.220 --> 19:38.720 For how could it happen when they are infants, if it happens through Christian teaching in 19:38.720 --> 19:39.140 childhood? 19:40.120 --> 19:42.640 So Billy's off the reels all right. 19:43.160 --> 19:44.880 He's gone off the reels on this one. 19:45.620 --> 19:57.240 We cannot fully understand the mysteries of God, but I believe that a miracle can happen in these 19:57.240 --> 20:02.360 children so that they are regenerated. 20:02.360 --> 20:08.640 That is mere Christian through infant baptism. 20:10.360 --> 20:16.160 That was in the time, I believe, he was taken up with by his Baptist brethren in the United States 20:16.160 --> 20:16.700 of America. 20:17.720 --> 20:19.680 Let me tell you something, friends of mine. 20:22.020 --> 20:26.420 No mold of baptism can see of your soul. 20:27.220 --> 20:28.580 No mold of baptism. 20:28.580 --> 20:40.160 Will it be a few drops of water in infancy, or deep immersion, when you have aged and understand? 20:41.740 --> 20:45.640 Nothing can consider it all. 20:46.380 --> 20:48.580 Nothing but the blood of Jesus. 20:49.480 --> 20:51.620 I want to reiterate that tonight. 20:52.760 --> 21:04.920 I want to tell you tonight, my friend, with God's holy book in my hand, that this Bible teaches that 21:04.920 --> 21:16.640 salvation is vested not in church, not in creed, not in sacrament, but in Christ. 21:17.940 --> 21:25.780 Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under heaven, given among men. 21:26.280 --> 21:28.680 But by Him we must be saved. 21:29.380 --> 21:37.360 So if you are going to be saved, friend, you will not be saved through infant baptism or immersions 21:37.360 --> 21:38.180 when you are older. 21:38.180 --> 21:46.700 You will be saved by coming to the cross and trusting Christ as your own and personal Savior. 21:47.260 --> 21:48.020 No other way. 21:49.860 --> 21:58.840 But of course, when you start running about and flirting with Romanists, the contagion's influence 21:58.840 --> 22:02.380 of the Roman Catholic system will rub off upon you. 22:03.380 --> 22:14.360 Then, when he was in San Paolo, Brazil, that's a Roman Catholic country, where Rome is supreme, 22:15.460 --> 22:18.500 almost, what happened? 22:19.560 --> 22:28.600 The Roman Catholic bishop stood with Dr. Graham at the end of each meeting. 22:28.600 --> 22:39.160 And as Dr. Graham made the appeal for people to come forward to accept Christ, the Roman Catholic 22:39.160 --> 22:45.600 bishop put the sign of the cross over each congregant. 22:46.600 --> 22:49.840 And Dr. Graham boasts about this. 22:54.900 --> 22:59.820 A photograph from the New York Times, November the 9th, 1963. 23:01.360 --> 23:11.500 Dr. Graham recalled that during a recent Graham crusade in San Paolo, Brazil, the Roman Catholic 23:11.500 --> 23:18.360 bishop stood beside him and blessed the converts as they came forward. 23:18.360 --> 23:23.320 And he put upon them the sign of the cross. 23:28.120 --> 23:30.300 What happens to them? 23:32.500 --> 23:46.680 You know, in 1957, there was a suspicion sowed in the hearts of men in the United States, good, 23:47.120 --> 23:56.420 faithful men, that Philly was plundering with Rome and sending converts back to Rome. 23:56.420 --> 24:02.500 But the Philly Graham organization rigorously denied this. 24:03.480 --> 24:11.860 They said, no, we don't send the converts who come out of our meetings back to Rome. 24:12.220 --> 24:14.900 But it was a straw in the wind. 24:15.900 --> 24:25.920 And now today, it is publicly stated by Graham, and I'm reading from an interview he gave with the 24:25.920 --> 24:30.760 San Francisco News in November 11, 1957. 24:30.760 --> 24:40.900 And he says, anyone who makes a decision at our meetings is seen later and referred to the local 24:40.900 --> 24:47.540 clergyman, Protestant, Catholic, or Jew. 24:49.860 --> 24:53.980 Protestant, Catholic, or Jew. 24:53.980 --> 25:02.720 So if you come forward at a Graham mission, and you're a Jew, the Jews reject the Lord Jesus 25:02.720 --> 25:04.180 Christ as the Messiah. 25:05.480 --> 25:08.160 They reject that He was the Son of God. 25:09.100 --> 25:18.180 But Philly Graham will send you back to the synagogue where your Savior is denied. 25:19.520 --> 25:29.860 He will send you back to the Roman Catholic Church where the once-and-for-all, never-to-be-repeated 25:29.860 --> 25:40.340 sacrifice for sins by Christ upon the cross eternally is rejected in the mass. 25:44.420 --> 25:55.620 Some time ago, I had a visit from a dear man of God who has now gone to heaven, the Reverend 25:55.620 --> 25:56.780 Duncan Campbell. 25:57.720 --> 26:06.040 The Reverend Duncan Campbell was the instrument that God used in the great revival in the outer 26:06.040 --> 26:06.640 Hebrides. 26:08.440 --> 26:16.320 He told me that one day in the city of Edinburgh, his own son was having a cup of tea in a cafe 26:16.320 --> 26:19.720 there, and there was a man sitting beside him. 26:20.740 --> 26:29.040 His son had a strange urge to speak to this young man, and so he starts up to witness to him. 26:29.760 --> 26:39.760 The young man said he was interested, but he was not prepared to have done with his sin and take 26:39.760 --> 26:42.840 Christ as his Savior. 26:44.320 --> 26:51.540 But he said, If I ever come to Christ, I'll remember you and the urge and love that was in you 26:51.540 --> 26:52.500 to speak to me. 26:52.500 --> 27:02.080 And he handed young Mr. Campbell his card, and he said, That's me, and if I ever come to Christ, 27:02.580 --> 27:03.440 I'll let you know. 27:04.980 --> 27:12.400 Some months afterwards, while the Campbell family were at their family altar having prayer, the 27:12.400 --> 27:13.360 telephone rang. 27:14.620 --> 27:22.160 And young Mr. Campbell went to answer it, and strange to relate it was this young man that he 27:22.160 --> 27:23.640 had spoken to in the cafe. 27:24.320 --> 27:28.920 And he said, You'll be glad to hear the news. 27:30.000 --> 27:39.580 I have come to Christ at Dr. Billy Graham's crusade at Earls Court. 27:40.880 --> 27:52.400 Young Mr. Campbell was delighted, and he gave him encouragement, and he said to him, I'll be in 27:52.400 --> 28:01.140 touch with you again, for I would like to put you in touch with some good ministers of Christ in the 28:01.140 --> 28:02.780 city of London. 28:02.780 --> 28:05.300 The young man thanked him. 28:07.880 --> 28:16.020 Some time afterwards, the young man got in touch with him again by letter. 28:16.900 --> 28:19.000 And this is what he said in the letter. 28:20.060 --> 28:30.140 He said, I am sure you will be delighted to know that I am going to be received into the Roman 28:30.140 --> 28:31.500 Catholic Church. 28:31.500 --> 28:39.000 Very short, Mr. Campbell's son was deeply grieved and amazed. 28:40.140 --> 28:44.420 He rang up the young man, and he said to him, I am not delighted. 28:44.600 --> 28:50.140 He said, I am grieved and dismayed that you are going to become a Roman Catholic. 28:50.460 --> 28:53.080 Oh, said the young man, you don't need to worry. 28:54.000 --> 28:58.600 It's all through the Billy Graham meeting that I am becoming a Roman Catholic. 28:58.600 --> 29:00.580 He said, how did that happen? 29:01.320 --> 29:10.400 Well, he said, when I went into the inquiry room, and I received instruction and counsel, after I 29:10.400 --> 29:16.480 had been counseled, they said, what church do you belong to? 29:17.260 --> 29:21.300 And he said, I said to him, well, I don't belong to any church. 29:22.080 --> 29:26.060 Well, then they said, what was the last church you were ever in? 29:27.200 --> 29:33.500 Well, he says, strange to relate, the last church I was ever in was a Roman Catholic church. 29:34.260 --> 29:41.780 Because this man was secondary to a very famous film star, whose name I must keep anonymously. 29:43.280 --> 29:46.040 And this film star is a Roman Catholic. 29:47.800 --> 29:57.300 And this young man, when the film star's chauffeur was not in business, he used to drive his master 29:57.300 --> 30:00.780 to the Roman Catholic church every Sunday morning. 30:02.040 --> 30:07.380 And out of courtesy, he used to go in with his master to the Roman Catholic church. 30:08.120 --> 30:12.020 So the Billy Graham counselor said, well, what was the last church you were in? 30:12.020 --> 30:17.100 He said, I was in the Roman Catholic church, and he mentioned it. 30:18.680 --> 30:19.760 That was all right. 30:20.800 --> 30:24.260 The Billy Graham counselor took his name, took the name of the church. 30:25.080 --> 30:31.100 And the young man said, a few days afterwards, a priest from that church called with me. 30:32.260 --> 30:35.900 He said, I have received a card from the Billy Graham organization. 30:36.980 --> 30:41.180 You have put down your name as a Roman Catholic. 30:42.120 --> 30:44.420 You have made a decision for Christ. 30:45.140 --> 30:46.840 I want to counsel you further. 30:47.680 --> 30:54.400 And that priest, with the subtlety of Jesuit way, took the young man away from the simplicity of the 30:54.400 --> 30:55.440 gospel of Christ. 30:55.980 --> 31:00.840 And today that young man is in the Roman Catholic church. 31:02.360 --> 31:05.180 Does this break Dr. Green's heart? 31:06.360 --> 31:09.440 Does he say this shouldn't happen? 31:09.440 --> 31:10.440 No. 31:11.020 --> 31:12.340 This is what he says. 31:13.020 --> 31:21.580 He says, many of the people who reach a decision on Christ in our meetings have joined the Catholic 31:21.580 --> 31:22.080 church. 31:22.080 --> 31:34.520 And we have received commendations from Catholic publications for the revived interest in their 31:34.520 --> 31:38.100 church following our campaigns. 31:39.460 --> 31:44.660 This happens both in Boston and Washington. 31:44.660 --> 31:54.820 After all, one of our prime purposes is to help the churches in the community. 31:55.000 --> 31:55.700 What churches? 31:56.260 --> 31:57.840 The Roman Catholic church. 31:58.620 --> 31:59.780 Apostolic church. 32:00.560 --> 32:01.780 Modernistic church. 32:02.420 --> 32:03.560 Liberal church. 32:04.220 --> 32:05.960 Bible-denying church. 32:07.100 --> 32:13.500 The purpose of this campaign is gladly to be commended by the Roman Catholic church. 32:13.500 --> 32:21.900 If after we move on, the local churches do not feel the effects of these meetings in increased 32:21.900 --> 32:27.940 membership and attendance, then our cruciate would have to be considered a failure. 32:29.300 --> 32:37.480 And in Pittsburgh, when he arrived there for a campaign, he said that his cruciate in Pittsburgh 32:37.480 --> 32:40.500 would be interdenominational. 32:40.500 --> 32:50.100 He hoped to hear Bishop Fulton chasing at one of the masses at St. Paul's Cathedral tomorrow. 32:50.940 --> 32:58.820 So at night, he started his campaign, and in the morning, he went to the mass in Pittsburgh. 32:59.820 --> 33:10.160 And then he's happy that his preaching has caused a revived interest in the church overall. 33:11.600 --> 33:18.740 My friends, you and I are faced tonight with this problem. 33:19.760 --> 33:24.040 Do we obey the word of God, or do we not? 33:25.040 --> 33:32.500 To those of us who know the Bible to be the word of God, there is only one pathway for us. 33:33.120 --> 33:37.560 That is the pathway of complete and utter separation. 33:39.640 --> 33:43.720 When he went to Boston, what happened there? 33:44.840 --> 33:53.240 One of the first men he saw was Cardinal Kutcher, a very well-known Roman Catholic bishop. 33:53.240 --> 34:05.380 And Cardinal Kutcher said that if you wanted to become a better Catholic, go and listen to Dr. 34:05.540 --> 34:05.940 Gleam. 34:06.980 --> 34:18.140 And Billy Gleam said to him, I feel that a new spirit is in the world as a result of the Second 34:18.140 --> 34:20.000 Vatican Council. 34:22.320 --> 34:28.340 So Billy said to the Cardinal, there's a new spirit abroad because of the Second Vatican 34:28.340 --> 34:28.900 Council. 34:29.460 --> 34:34.320 And the bishop says to Billy, you'll be a better Catholic if they go and listen to you. 34:35.240 --> 34:39.640 This is the sad downgrade that has taken place. 34:39.640 --> 34:50.700 Are you aware that in the San Francisco campaign, 1,300 converts were directed to the Church of Rome 34:50.700 --> 34:52.380 in San Francisco? 34:52.720 --> 35:00.280 Those are not my figures, those are the figures of the official standard that was issued by Billy 35:00.280 --> 35:01.500 Gleam's organization. 35:02.460 --> 35:09.760 1,300 converts returned to the Church of Rome. 35:10.280 --> 35:17.720 And the Billy Gleam organization said they are good Catholics still, they go to Mass and confess 35:17.720 --> 35:19.620 to the priest in the confession. 35:22.300 --> 35:33.900 Alas, alack, the last time he was in London, Sir Cheryl Black, a notable Baptist ecumenist, who was 35:33.900 --> 35:39.580 once the MP for Wimbledon, a conservative, he wrote to me and asked me would I go and eat dinner 35:39.580 --> 35:40.300 with Billy Gleam. 35:40.760 --> 35:47.340 I wrote him back and I said I don't keep company with those that deny the faith, or fellowship with 35:47.340 --> 35:48.720 those that deny the faith. 35:48.720 --> 35:55.280 That the virgin birth of Christ and the precious blood of Christ mean too much for me, for me to 35:55.280 --> 35:57.720 sit down in your ecumenical fellowship. 35:58.260 --> 35:59.980 Do you know what they did at that meeting? 36:01.980 --> 36:03.640 Cardinal Heenan was there. 36:05.920 --> 36:12.320 And they got up and eulogized Cardinal Heenan as a man of God. 36:13.320 --> 36:25.060 And they united to send him a telegram wishing him God's blessing for a steady recovery. 36:27.140 --> 36:37.460 Cardinal Heenan, well known for his apostasy and his arrogant and bigoted ruminations. 36:38.660 --> 36:41.420 And so it goes on. 36:42.400 --> 36:45.420 And now we have Dr. Gleam in this city. 36:46.420 --> 36:50.500 Of course I know people have sat already up like me. 36:50.600 --> 36:51.640 They've said, you know, E.M. 36:51.740 --> 36:52.780 Paisley is jealous. 36:54.740 --> 36:56.260 Why should I be jealous? 36:56.520 --> 36:56.780 Why? 36:58.000 --> 36:59.980 Let me tell you something. 37:02.040 --> 37:09.060 Before, many weeks before Billy Gleam came here today or yesterday when he came, I was approached 37:09.060 --> 37:14.400 by a very prominent associate of Dr. Gleam. 37:15.260 --> 37:19.140 And he approached me in the halls of the apartment in Westlake. 37:20.000 --> 37:26.160 And he asked me would I associate myself with Gleam's invitation. 37:27.580 --> 37:30.480 I see Billy Gleam said he was pressurized to come here. 37:31.680 --> 37:34.680 So I was one of the ones asked to put pressure on him. 37:35.120 --> 37:35.800 See, would he come? 37:35.880 --> 37:37.980 I said no, I would do nothing of the kind. 37:38.520 --> 37:40.340 This man said to me, but why? 37:41.220 --> 37:41.620 Why? 37:42.360 --> 37:46.860 I said, I'll send you a book and it will answer you every page of it. 37:47.000 --> 37:47.220 Why? 37:48.760 --> 37:53.300 I said, I happen to believe the Bible. 37:54.660 --> 38:01.840 And the Bible says, shouldst thou help the ungodly and love them that hate the Lord. 38:03.300 --> 38:08.460 And the answer to that is no, I shouldn't help the ungodly or love them that hate the Lord. 38:08.460 --> 38:11.680 Therefore is wrath upon me to the other ones. 38:12.100 --> 38:14.120 I don't want God's wrath on my ministry. 38:15.640 --> 38:19.620 You know you could have the world's popularity on the throne of God. 38:20.500 --> 38:24.360 Better to have the pride of man and the smile of heaven. 38:25.040 --> 38:25.680 Far better. 38:27.280 --> 38:30.820 So the evangelicals are going to help breakfast with him. 38:32.100 --> 38:34.580 And then they're going to help dinner with him. 38:34.580 --> 38:39.080 It's not revealed yet who has been invited to the breakfast. 38:40.140 --> 38:43.380 Or who has been invited to the dinner. 38:44.780 --> 38:51.260 But Billy Graham has made it clear that he has come on a peace mission. 38:52.260 --> 38:52.860 Peace mission. 38:54.240 --> 38:56.920 Do you know what his associate said to me in London? 38:57.660 --> 39:03.300 He said, you know, Senator Kennedy's interested in Northern Ireland. 39:04.780 --> 39:10.260 He said, President Nixon is interested in Northern Ireland. 39:10.820 --> 39:14.540 So Billy thinks he should be interested in Northern Ireland. 39:16.800 --> 39:22.200 Sort of political operation, is it? 39:22.680 --> 39:23.800 He should be interested. 39:25.260 --> 39:26.620 And he made this statement. 39:27.660 --> 39:30.980 He said he's going to condemn nobody. 39:32.240 --> 39:33.660 Going to condemn nobody. 39:33.660 --> 39:40.520 But any man of God that comes to this city at this time and doesn't condemn the brutality of the 39:40.520 --> 39:45.860 murderous IRA, that man knows nothing about this book that lies in front of him. 39:46.740 --> 39:49.620 This book says thou shalt do no murder. 39:51.100 --> 39:55.120 This book says thou shalt not take away thy neighbor's life. 39:56.080 --> 39:59.620 This book says thou shalt not plunder or steal. 40:00.520 --> 40:02.900 But that's exactly what the IRA are doing. 40:03.660 --> 40:13.600 And the first place he visits today is the scene where all the laymen blew up themselves. 40:16.260 --> 40:23.700 And if they hadn't blown up themselves, they would have taken that hundred pound bomb, and they would 40:23.700 --> 40:29.500 have plastered it in a forested district, and probably would have murdered every one of them. 40:31.500 --> 40:33.460 I want to tell you this. 40:35.260 --> 40:39.600 I have every sympathy with those that are killed. 40:42.020 --> 40:44.660 Pure, deluded souls as they may be. 40:45.100 --> 40:49.840 But let me tell you, God's judgments are in this province at the present time. 40:50.840 --> 40:59.100 I have been praying before God, and so has this church, and so have many of God's people that God 40:59.100 --> 40:59.920 will deliver us. 41:00.880 --> 41:02.180 And you know what I'm praying? 41:02.380 --> 41:08.500 I'm praying the prayer of the Zamas, that the pit that they have digged for others, they will fall 41:08.500 --> 41:11.800 headlong into it themselves. 41:12.980 --> 41:14.660 And that has been happening. 41:15.740 --> 41:21.080 And I have been praying to God that it will happen more and more. 41:21.940 --> 41:31.520 And that these men will destroy themselves because of their evil, and because of their murderous 41:31.520 --> 41:32.000 intent. 41:32.300 --> 41:33.500 Come on a peace mission. 41:34.220 --> 41:39.260 Come to get all the churches to unite in a peace mission. 41:39.640 --> 41:47.120 Let me announce that the Free Presbyterian Church will not be taking part in this peace mission, 41:47.120 --> 41:52.060 because we believe that it's destined to the Lord. 41:53.040 --> 41:57.100 Dr. Fitch has finished his ministry tonight. 41:57.700 --> 41:58.540 He's finished it. 41:59.100 --> 42:05.580 This church arose from a session in Ravenhill Presbyterian Church many years ago. 42:08.960 --> 42:11.380 We were a little struggling church. 42:11.740 --> 42:15.400 When I came to this room 26 years ago, we were despised. 42:17.120 --> 42:24.720 Many a time people spat as I passed their doors on this room. 42:25.560 --> 42:30.540 Many a time I knocked on their doors and they slammed it in my face. 42:31.560 --> 42:37.460 For 26 years I have preached God's truth on this room. 42:38.280 --> 42:39.880 Through good report and ill report. 42:40.760 --> 42:43.180 I am going to continue to preach it. 42:43.180 --> 42:50.220 And I want to say to you tonight, Dr. Fitch has finished his ministry. 42:51.240 --> 42:54.220 And he thinks that he's finished it in glory. 42:55.980 --> 43:05.900 When the seats that have been dusted for many a long day are now for the first time dusted down to 43:05.900 --> 43:06.780 seat the congregation. 43:07.060 --> 43:08.480 You say, how do you know they're dusted? 43:08.480 --> 43:10.380 Because I went to a meeting in that church. 43:11.100 --> 43:14.720 When that dear policeman was murdered. 43:15.280 --> 43:16.620 And I went on to the gallery. 43:17.320 --> 43:20.780 And the seats in the gallery hadn't been sat on to me for a generation. 43:21.520 --> 43:24.260 You could have written your name on the dust in those seats. 43:24.300 --> 43:26.660 I was there, I know what I'm talking about. 43:26.680 --> 43:27.820 First time then for me. 43:28.840 --> 43:30.240 Let me tell you this. 43:31.340 --> 43:34.080 And I'm not the prophet nor the son of a prophet. 43:35.020 --> 43:38.700 But the church that brings to its pulpit Philegrium. 43:39.500 --> 43:48.260 And associates itself with this campaign of bolstering up and sending converts back to the 43:48.260 --> 43:49.660 darkness of Romanism. 43:50.100 --> 43:53.820 That the curse of the Almighty will rest upon that church. 43:54.460 --> 43:56.500 It may not be seen today. 43:57.400 --> 43:59.420 It may not be seen tomorrow. 44:00.120 --> 44:03.200 For the criminals of God grind slowly. 44:03.200 --> 44:06.400 But they grind exceeding small and sure. 44:07.060 --> 44:08.510 But you mark my words. 44:09.280 --> 44:12.540 If I am a man of God, you mark them well. 44:13.000 --> 44:19.420 That someday God will publicly vindicate His truth about this matter. 44:20.620 --> 44:23.120 I have no jealousy in my heart. 44:23.540 --> 44:24.960 Why would I be jealous? 44:26.120 --> 44:27.340 Haven't I enough to do? 44:28.940 --> 44:29.820 Haven't I? 44:29.820 --> 44:32.920 When I look after Northundram and Banshine. 44:33.920 --> 44:37.940 And look after all the sheep in the pasture of the martyrs memorial. 44:38.440 --> 44:43.280 And the goats that come in occasionally to steal the grass. 44:43.880 --> 44:45.240 Why should I be jealous? 44:45.420 --> 44:47.060 I'm happy when men are seen. 44:48.040 --> 44:49.860 I've given my life for evangelism. 44:51.060 --> 44:52.240 Preaching every night. 45:04.400 --> 45:06.660 There's something more important. 45:07.560 --> 45:10.060 That that is the honor of Jesus. 45:26.120 --> 45:28.040 Don't say anything. 45:29.820 --> 45:31.780 Well, if you don't go to the breakfast. 45:59.400 --> 46:00.600 Be a nice boy. 46:11.890 --> 46:14.330 That was attracting public attention. 46:15.030 --> 46:17.770 That that man was another Judas Iscariot. 46:21.470 --> 46:23.710 When Dr. Graham comes to this city. 46:27.970 --> 46:31.030 And a lot of them are supposed to be the cream 46:34.320 --> 46:36.460 of evangelicals. 46:37.240 --> 46:38.840 And they'll be all at the breakfast. 46:51.320 --> 46:53.520 I couldn't go and breakfast with Billy Green. 46:55.280 --> 46:58.740 And that man said, well, I don't think I should go either. 46:58.860 --> 47:02.000 He said, I don't think I'll bother now going having heard that. 47:02.560 --> 47:03.860 The letter will be too last. 47:12.500 --> 47:15.800 We will get no laurels from the world. 47:17.480 --> 47:20.700 We'll not be liked by the world. 47:21.780 --> 47:23.600 We'll be hated by the world. 47:24.580 --> 47:28.240 If the world could shut this preacher's mouth, the world would do it. 47:29.100 --> 47:32.560 If the world could burn this church, it would do it. 47:32.560 --> 47:37.350 If the world could stop this. 47:37.750 --> 47:39.210 But I want to tell you something. 47:40.490 --> 47:43.870 God in the midst of her doth dwell. 47:44.890 --> 47:47.350 Nothing shall her remove. 47:47.990 --> 47:50.190 The Lord to her a helper will. 47:50.970 --> 47:52.710 And that right early proved. 47:53.670 --> 47:55.410 And I'm not worried, my friend. 47:55.490 --> 47:56.430 I've got the young. 47:56.870 --> 47:59.270 I'm not worried about empty seats. 48:00.330 --> 48:03.730 I'm not worried about what people think about me. 48:04.310 --> 48:10.390 For after 26 years of hammering, my height is pretty tough today. 48:11.010 --> 48:13.670 And I don't feel these things the way a young preacher. 48:13.850 --> 48:15.270 There was a time I did feel them. 48:15.630 --> 48:16.350 I don't feel them. 48:16.430 --> 48:19.090 But there's one thing I do feel for. 48:19.430 --> 48:22.190 I feel for the honor of my master. 48:23.130 --> 48:25.290 I love Jesus with all my heart. 48:26.030 --> 48:29.390 Many years ago as a boy, he sealed my soul. 48:30.510 --> 48:34.670 And I have sought to live for him and I have failed miserably. 48:35.390 --> 48:38.230 But he has never failed me once and never will. 48:39.190 --> 48:41.230 I've been in many tight places. 48:41.930 --> 48:44.010 In the prison cell twice. 48:44.890 --> 48:47.050 I've been pilloried in the press. 48:48.050 --> 48:50.110 Lapooned by the world's media. 48:51.130 --> 48:54.710 But in those days, Jesus didn't let me die. 48:55.550 --> 49:03.810 All that Ian Paisley ever was or ever is or ever can be, I owe it to Jesus Christ. 49:04.850 --> 49:08.050 Wouldn't I be a poor Christian if I kept silent? 49:08.850 --> 49:15.090 Wouldn't I be a poor specimen if I held my tongue for private gain? 49:16.090 --> 49:24.150 Wouldn't I be a man to be despised and a veritable coward if I didn't speak up for my master? 49:24.150 --> 49:26.490 When his honor is attacked. 49:27.430 --> 49:36.570 When men who have denied his virgin birth and DNA are taken by the hand by the great evangelist. 49:37.390 --> 49:42.470 What would you think of me if I would so betray my master? 49:43.070 --> 49:45.550 Friend, I want to tell you, I couldn't do it. 49:46.370 --> 49:47.730 I love him too much. 49:48.470 --> 49:49.870 And that's why I have spoken. 49:51.090 --> 49:52.990 And I have one apology to make. 49:52.990 --> 49:58.930 And that is that I haven't spoken fierce enough and strong enough. 49:59.870 --> 50:02.010 But that's the weakness of the human freedom. 50:02.770 --> 50:08.590 And if I have said anything tonight and you have been offended by it, I can't help it. 50:09.070 --> 50:16.550 If I had hog-kneeled boots, I would jump on your pet corns and not ask any apology for doing so. 50:16.810 --> 50:17.930 I must be fearful. 50:19.370 --> 50:20.790 And I'm making an appeal. 50:20.790 --> 50:22.770 There's a lot of people here tonight. 50:23.530 --> 50:27.110 And some of you are still in the World Council of Churches. 50:27.950 --> 50:31.090 You're still caught up in this movement, this ecumenical movement. 50:31.490 --> 50:35.110 And you come here and you say, God bless Ian Paisley. 50:35.530 --> 50:42.270 And on Sunday morning you're found in an old dead church, listening to an old dead preacher. 50:42.550 --> 50:43.310 And you know what? 50:44.230 --> 50:46.670 And you say, well I don't give him too much. 50:47.530 --> 50:48.410 Give him nothing! 50:49.490 --> 50:50.090 Yes. 50:50.990 --> 50:52.770 A woman wrote me the other day. 50:52.810 --> 50:55.470 She says, I've taken the corn from my preacher. 50:56.190 --> 50:58.050 He'll not eat of my corn anymore. 50:59.010 --> 51:04.990 You should come out and be separate and touch not the unclean thing and the Lord will receive you. 51:05.510 --> 51:07.410 Come out from among them and be a separate. 51:07.550 --> 51:08.630 That's the word of God. 51:09.110 --> 51:16.890 You should stand up and shout out and get out and stay out! 51:16.890 --> 51:18.410 That's what you should do. 51:18.830 --> 51:21.330 You say, should I become a free Presbyterian? 51:21.730 --> 51:23.850 It's manners to wait until you're asked. 51:26.070 --> 51:29.670 If the Lord leads you to this church, God bless you. 51:29.790 --> 51:32.090 I don't want you if the Lord doesn't lead you. 51:32.370 --> 51:36.090 Because if you came on your own, you would go away on your own. 51:36.730 --> 51:40.410 But if the Lord leads you to this place, you'll stay. 51:41.330 --> 51:43.890 Through good report and ill report, you'll remain. 51:43.890 --> 51:50.310 You'll stay by the stop until Jesus comes or goes. 51:50.810 --> 51:56.790 And if there's a poor sinner sitting somewhere in this pew, and you're not saved and you don't know 51:56.790 --> 51:58.650 my Savior, you've never met Him. 51:59.230 --> 52:01.570 Could I invite you to Him tonight? 52:02.290 --> 52:04.070 Could I invite you to trust Him? 52:05.290 --> 52:08.070 I'm going to make no further appeal tonight. 52:08.570 --> 52:12.770 All I'm going to ask you now is simply to stand to your feet, everyone. 52:12.770 --> 52:13.870 Let's all stand. 52:15.470 --> 52:17.730 Let's bow our heads just for a moment. 52:19.770 --> 52:24.970 As our heads are bowed, I'm putting a strict question to every man or woman. 52:25.090 --> 52:26.130 How is it with you? 52:27.070 --> 52:29.230 Are you in the World Council of Churches? 52:29.270 --> 52:30.290 You should get rid of it. 52:31.390 --> 52:37.730 Make the decision as you stand there in the pew that you're going to join up with a Christian 52:37.730 --> 52:40.350 church that stands for God and righteousness. 52:41.330 --> 52:46.230 And if you're not saved, make up your mind you're going to come to Christ. 52:46.390 --> 52:52.450 And remember, there's a room here on the right-hand side of the pulpit. 52:52.570 --> 52:53.650 I'll be in that room. 52:54.510 --> 52:57.510 I'll be glad to open the Bible and point you to the Savior. 52:58.470 --> 53:02.050 And God's people tonight, we're gathering around the Lord's table. 53:03.070 --> 53:05.610 Will you gather around the table of the Lord with us? 53:06.350 --> 53:14.050 And let's remember the Lord, if you're saved, till He comes or calls. 53:15.110 --> 53:18.630 Father, we thank Thee for Thy presence. 53:19.630 --> 53:23.490 We thank Thee for a real sense of Thy presence tonight. 53:24.410 --> 53:27.190 We thank Thee that Jesus is here. 53:27.950 --> 53:29.950 And we pray that man may meet Him. 53:30.810 --> 53:32.990 Those that are not saved may they meet Him. 53:32.990 --> 53:36.030 Those that are backslidden may they meet Him. 53:36.790 --> 53:38.630 May God's people meet Him. 53:39.230 --> 53:43.590 And those that are still in apostasy, may they meet Him too. 53:44.330 --> 53:48.550 And may there be a great coming out for the Lord's sake. 53:49.270 --> 53:52.850 Hear this, our prayer, for Jesus' sake. 53:53.290 --> 53:55.690 And everybody sang, Amen. 53:58.660 --> 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sometimes called the scriptural law of worship, commenting on the words of God, which I 55:21.360 --> 55:24.100 commanded them not, neither came into my heart. 55:24.620 --> 55:33.020 From his commentary on Jeremiah 7.31, writes, God here cuts off from men every occasion for making 55:33.020 --> 55:39.720 evasions, since he condemns by this one phrase, I have not commanded them, whatever the Jews 55:39.720 --> 55:40.420 devised. 55:40.900 --> 55:46.260 There is then no other argument needed to condemn superstitions, than that they are not commanded by 55:46.260 --> 55:46.700 God. 55:46.700 --> 55:52.140 For when men allow themselves to worship God according to their own fancies, and attend not to 55:52.140 --> 55:54.720 his commands, they pervert true religion. 55:55.420 --> 56:01.300 And if this principle was adopted by the papists, all those fictitious modes of worship, in which 56:01.300 --> 56:04.840 they absurdly exercise themselves, would fall to the ground. 56:05.360 --> 56:10.800 It is indeed a horrible thing for the papists to seek to discharge their duties towards God, by 56:10.800 --> 56:12.580 performing their own superstitions. 56:12.580 --> 56:18.460 There is an immense number of them, as it is well known, and as it manifestly appears. 56:19.060 --> 56:24.900 Were they to admit this principle, that we cannot rightly worship God, except by obeying his word, 56:25.260 --> 56:28.180 they would be delivered from their deep abyss of error. 56:28.820 --> 56:35.800 The prophet's words then are very important, when he says, that God had commanded no such thing, and 56:35.800 --> 56:37.480 that it never came to his mind. 56:37.480 --> 56:44.120 As though he had said, that men assume too much wisdom, when they devise what he never required, 56:44.620 --> 56:46.180 nay what he never knew.