Welcome to our seminar part six of our creation seminar.
My name is Kent Hovind.
I do seminars all over the world on creation, evolution, and dinosaurs.
So far in this series we've covered a whole variety of topics like how old is
the earth, where do dinosaurs fit in, what about cavemen, the lies in the
textbooks, and the effects of the evolution teaching.
Tonight we are going to talk about the flood.
What caused the flood in the days of Noah?
How could the world completely flood?
Where does the ice age fit into the Bible?
Christians say if the Bible says the earth is only 6,000 years old, what about the
ice age?
And what froze the mammoths?
The big, huge, hairy, hippy elephants that are found frozen are like this mammoth
backbone.
This is coalified from here, from South Florida.
Mammoths are found all over the world.
We've got a mammoth jaw here, a lot of mammoths.
There's a baby mammoth tusk.
This is part of one that was frozen in Siberia.
Actually in northern Russia.
What froze the mammoths?
How can you freeze an elephant standing up with food still in his teeth?
Doesn't it take millions of years to form Grand Canyon?
We are going to cover some of those things tonight in the Hovind Theory.
And we call it the Hovind Theory because we don't want anybody else to get the
blame for it.
I have read many books by other people.
A book that strongly influenced me many years ago was the Biblical Flood and the
Ice Epic.
How Patton thinks that an ice meteor struck the earth or we went through the
tail of a comet one or the other.
Anyway, ice got dumped on earth from outer space.
This was a good book many years ago.
Walt Brown, PhD in Physics, Air Force Academy Colonel, taught at the Air Force
Academy for years, a physics professor.
Excellent book on what caused the flood.
I differ with Walt Brown on a couple of minor things.
We have talked many times.
A good friend of mine.
I highly recommend his work.
A few little minor differences, but I think that would be a good one if
you want to get more information to spark your interest on studying this topic.
What caused the flood?
Is it possible to rain that much to completely cover the world?
Where did all that water go?
If there is a flood, where is the evidence of Noah's flood?
Where is all that water?
We are going to talk about three things tonight.
We are going to talk about the creation a little bit.
What we covered on seminar part 2.
We have to understand what the original creation was like.
And then the curse.
God put a curse on this world.
This world that we are living in today is a junkyard compared to what Adam and Eve
lived in.
And then the catastrophe.
The flood completely wiped out the world.
The original creation was very different.
I don't think it is possible for us to understand what it used to be like 6,000
years ago when God made the world.
The Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the skeptics I debate at universities say, wait, I don't believe Genesis.
How can we trust Genesis?
Who wrote that book?
And they will say there are four different authors.
The skeptics will say, they call it the J-E-P-D for Yahwist, Eloist, Priestly,
and Deuterist.
And they will point out that there are very different styles of writing in the
book of Genesis.
Genesis chapter 1, if you look through Genesis 1, it says, and God said,
and God did.
It uses the word God 31 times in chapter 1.
When you come to chapter 2, verse 4, and all through chapter 2 it uses the
phrase Lord God.
It is always Lord God instead of God.
It is a totally different style of writing.
It is a different name for God.
And the skeptics say there are four different authors to Genesis.
So we can't trust it.
It was written by priests for political gain or something like that.
Well, actually, they are partly right.
There are actually ten different authors to Genesis, not four.
Genesis was written by ten different people, all of them first-hand eyewitness
accounts.
The Bible says in Mark chapter 12, have you not read in the book of Moses how
in the bush God spake unto him saying, I am the God of Abraham.
Here the Bible clearly tells us that Exodus, where it talks the story about the
burning bush, is written by Moses.
Exodus is the book of Moses.
Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy all written by Moses.
But Genesis was only the editor, the collector.
He did not actually write Genesis.
Moses edited, put it together, probably from ten existing clay tablets.
And there is a great footnote in Henry Morris' Defender's Bible, if you get that.
I love Henry Morris and I sell his Defender's Bible and highly recommend it.
We do put a disclaimer with it because of a few things I disagree with him.
I am selling it so I have a right to disagree if I like.
So I think there is a lot of meat here.
You have to eat the meat and spit out the bones is our philosophy.
But his footnote here in Genesis chapter 2 verse 4 is excellent.
About the ten, what are called the Teledoths.
The ten different authors of Genesis.
The phrase that you can see where the Genesis is divided up is very clear.
If you look at Genesis chapter 2 verse 4 it says, these are the generations of.
Genesis 5, 1 starts off, these are the generations of.
Genesis 6, 9, these are the generations of.
The phrase appears ten different times in Genesis.
Moses actually edited it.
Probably God wrote Genesis chapter 1 and gave it to Adam.
Adam wrote a few chapters.
Everybody kept adding to this and by the time you get through the whole creation
story, Moses put it all together and put it into one edited form called the book of
Genesis.
So if you look at the phrase, these are the generations of in chapter 5 verse 1 is
found in chapter 6 verse 9.
These are the generations of Noah.
That is Noah signing off.
Noah actually wrote part of Genesis.
The sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth wrote part.
And you can look through the footnote in Henry Morris Defender's Bible and see all
the ten times where it uses the phrase, these are the generations of.
Terah wrote part of it.
Ishmael wrote part of it.
As you are reading through Genesis, there are some chapters that look like
they are just unrelated.
Like who cares about the Dukes of Edom?
It has all these dukes in there and it looks like the chapter is kind of stuck in
the middle.
Well, that is a different guy writing.
There are ten different people writing this book.
So yes, you can trust Genesis.
It is all eyewitness accounts.
Now it is true that the Babylonian legend was written down before Moses wrote
Genesis.
I just answered a letter today on our call in radio show, Truthradio.com,
on the air live every day from 5-6 Central Time.
Somebody had called in or written in or emailed us, an AOL instant message I
think, about the two different authors in Genesis.
I said, well actually there are ten different authors of Genesis.
And they said, how can you trust it?
Well, they are all eyewitnesses.
And one guy asked, what about the Babylonian account?
Didn't Moses copy from the Babylonian story?
No.
The Babylonians were, they had finally written down an oral legend.
See, after the flood, people would talk about the creation and the flood and the
Tower of Babel, three major incidents in human history.
They would talk about that around the campfire for generations.
And there are many flood stories and creation stories and Tower of Babel
stories in cultures all over the world.
And the Babylonians wrote theirs down before Moses wrote Genesis.
But Moses had the actual clay tablets of the original story.
I mean, he had the real McCoy.
So what the Babylonians had is an oral tradition that went on for generations and
finally got written down.
Moses had the original.
So no, just because Babylonian story was written first does not mean it came first.
Moses actually wrote it down from the original story.
Anyway, you can read all about that in the Teledos.
But in 2 Peter chapter 3, it says, knowing this first, there shall come in
the last days scoffers.
There are people that actually scoff at God's word.
How many have ever met one of those before?
I deal with them all the time.
I've had 83 debates now.
I have 4 more scheduled in the next 2 months.
The scoffers that scoff at God's word are out there folks.
The woods are full of them.
And it says they are going to walk after their own lust.
The reason they scoff is because of their lust.
Not because of their science.
They don't want God telling them what to do.
And the scoffers are going to say, where is the promise of his coming?
Since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the
beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of.
Willingly ignorant.
In the Greek that means dumb on purpose.
The scoffers are dumb on purpose about 2 things.
Number 1, about the creation.
How God made the heavens by his word.
How the earth was standing in the water and out of the water.
We cover all that in video number 2.
And they are ignorant of the flood.
The world was overflowed with water and perished.
This world was totally annihilated by a flood.
Every inch of ground under water.
So Christians need to have an answer.
How could this happen?
Where did the water come from?
Where did it go?
And where is the evidence of all this?
The Bible says the world we have today is kept in store, reserved unto judgment.
There is a judgment coming.
See the scoffers don't want to admit there was a creation.
They don't want to admit there was a flood.
And they don't want to admit there is a judgment coming.
That is really what it boils down to.
And in our seminar part 4, we covered some of the scoffers and the history of this.
And in seminar 5, some of the effects of this teaching.
How it led to the rise of Communism, Nazism, Socialism, Marxism.
You might want to get that videotape.
It is very politically incorrect.
You may not want to watch that one actually.
But the Bible puts the dates of the creation at about 6,000 years ago or 4,000
B.C.
I don't give an exact date.
Plus or minus a few hundred years.
And the skeptics will say, well what did God do for billions of years before the
creation?
You know that question assumes that God is stuck in time like we are.
See we are limited by time.
We can't go ahead or backwards in time.
There have been many times I wish I could go back a few minutes.
How many of you had those times before?
Just let me go back two minutes.
Let me try this one more time.
Let me miss that tree this time.
But see God is not limited by time.
And the question what did God do before the creation assumes there was a before
the creation.
See God invented time, space, and matter in Genesis 1.1.
There was no time before the creation.
It is hard for the human brain.
It is probably impossible for the human brain to understand that.
But the question what did He do before millions of years assumes that God has to
sit around waiting for a certain time.
He is not limited by time.
What was before the creation?
There was no before.
It is a totally different dimension.
And someday there will be no... We sing songs like when we have been there 10,000
years.
Preachers good, sounds great, but it is not true.
We are just going to be there.
There will be no time.
First thing you do when you get to heaven is take off your watch and fling it over
to the side.
You won't need that anymore.
There shall be time and no longer the angel said.
So the evolution story starts 20 billion years ago.
They start with the beginning also.
And even the evolutionists will say there has to be a time when there was no time.
They think time, space, and matter all came into existence.
This textbook says in the realm of the universe nothing really means nothing.
Not only matter and energy would disappear, but also space and time.
If there were no time... See, you have to have time, space, and matter come into
existence all simultaneously.
If there were matter but were no space, where would you put it?
If there were matter and space but no time, when would you put it?
You have to have time, space, and matter come into existence at the same time.
It is called a continuum.
There is a great footnote in Henry Morris' Defenders Bible on that one.
I recommend that.
That will make you scratch your head for the rest of your life thinking,
man, this is amazing.
Our human brain won't wrap around this.
Anyway, the Bible says in the beginning, that is time, God created the heaven,
that is space, and the earth, that is matter.
Time, space, matter all made at the same time.
It is called the trinity of trinities.
Time has three dimensions, past, present, future.
Space has three dimensions, length, width, height.
And matter has three dimensions, solid, liquid, gas.
Plasma is just a hotter gas.
All three come into existence simultaneously, according to Genesis 1.1.
Anyway, Genesis 1 tells us there was a canopy of water above the creation.
We mention this quite a bit on Seminar Part 2.
And before the flood came, the people lived to be over 900.
Probably one of the reasons is because of this canopy overhead.
And people say, well, wait a minute, the Bible says the sun was made on day
four.
How did they have light before the sun?
Well, God Himself is light.
The Hebrew word or is the word translated light.
We have two words in English, two things in English that are both called the same
thing.
They are both called light.
I can look up and say, that is a light, or I can say, turn on the light.
That light produces light.
In Hebrew they have two different words.
Or is the light itself.
Maor is the light source.
We only have one word in English.
In Genesis 1 it says God created the light and then later He made the source for the
light.
Apparently He started the electromagnetic spectrum.
He energized the universe with His voice.
He spoke.
And all the radio waves and microwaves and all the energy waves of the universe,
the whole electromagnetic spectrum, the universe was energized just by the
voice of God.
Then later He made the lights, the sun, moon, stars, probably so Adam
would know not to worship them.
I think we have to have a sun.
It is a wonderful thing to have, but it is not something to worship.
And many cultures worship the sun.
So God made it later to show it is important, but it is not the most
important.
He is the light.
The Bible says God is light and Him is no darkness at all.
In Genesis 1.16 it says God made the greater light and the lesser light.
This is a different word, the Maor, which is the light source.
So He made the light before He made the light source.
Actually Psalm 27 says the Lord is my light.
He is not just the source of our light, He is the light.
Fascinating thing to study on there.
In Greek it is called phos, for phosphorous where we get our fluorescent
light, the root word for fluorescent, which means light.
The psalmist said we should consider the heavens, consider the light.
The Bible talks about the stars singing together in Job chapter 38.
The stars actually produce radio waves.
Carl Baugh has got a great theory on that.
He thinks the canopy of water overhead used to translate the vibration of the
stars, the radio waves, into sound waves.
So Adam and Eve could hear the gospel story proclaimed by the stars.
I don't know, interesting theory.
It sure preaches good.
Something worth studying if you want to chase another rabbit for a while.
That is a neat one to study.
But in Revelation 21 it says they have no need of the sun, neither of the moon to
shine in it, for the glory of God did light in it, and the Lamb is the light
thereof.
It is interesting, for the first 13 verses in the Bible there was light but no source
for the light.
God was the light.
And at the end of the Bible there will be no sun, moon, or stars.
God is the light.
Interesting.
It starts off, first 13 verses, no sun, moon, stars.
Last 17 verses, no sun, moon, stars.
It is going to end the same way.
We don't need the sun, moon, stars.
We have God.
He is the light.
The Bible says the Lord God giveth them light, Revelation 22 verse 5.
He is the light.
Anyway, we can talk all day about the light, but people say no.
If God made a beautiful world, put Adam and Eve in it.
He made this beautiful garden it talks about.
Where is the garden?
I want to go see it.
Where is the Garden of Eden?
Well, the flood completely destroyed the world, rearranged the real estate,
dropped everybody's property value to zero there for a few months.
I think the Garden of Eden is probably long gone, buried under 500 feet of mud
someplace.
The Bible says in Genesis chapter 2, the Lord God planted a garden eastward in
Eden, and there he put the man whom he had formed.
God made this beautiful garden, and it says a river went out of Eden,
and it parted into four heads.
And the name of the one river was Euphrates.
And people look at this and say, see, the Garden of Eden must be over where
Baghdad is.
How many of you guys are in the military and have been over there to Baghdad?
Nobody here?
We have several in our church who have been over there.
I would say they would testify that is not the Garden of Eden over there.
Far cry.
There is a river that runs through Baghdad called Euphrates.
So what?
There are 36 cities in America named Greenville.
36 different states have a Greenville.
What does that mean?
People think it is a neat name, that is all.
When people got off the ark, they probably saw rivers that reminded them of pre-flood
things and said, oh, that looks like, reminds me of, you know, Euphrates,
so we will give it the same name.
This Genesis 2.14 tells us that one river went out and parted into four heads.
I think the water system before the flood came was backwards to today.
Today rivers come together to make bigger rivers.
Here you have one spring coming out of the ground, apparently, parting into four
rivers.
The water cycle was very different before the flood than it is today.
There is a river called Euphrates that runs through Baghdad that is not the
Garden of Eden.
It is a pure coincidence.
There is a city in Ontario called London.
There is a city in America called New York, named after York.
They are not the same city.
People got off the boat and said, we will call this, you know, New York.
I drove through Missouri and went through the town of Moscow, Missouri.
That is not Moscow, Russia.
It is just that somebody chose the same name.
The Garden of Eden is long gone.
I don't think we are going to find it.
It is probably under 400 feet of mud.
I suspect in Pensacola, Florida is my theory on that.
Anyway, that world was totally destroyed.
How many of you also think it might have been in Pensacola, Florida?
Okay, good.
You all agree with me then.
That is why you live here.
The Bible was destroyed by a flood.
The Bible teaches that man brought death into the world.
Death reigned from Adam to Moses, Romans chapter 5.
Man brought death into the world.
There was no death until Adam sinned.
It was man that brought death into the world.
The Bible says death is an enemy.
And God made a perfect world where there was no death.
Nothing died until Adam sinned.
People say, wait a minute, didn't plants die?
Adam ate plants, doesn't that kill the plant?
Well, that assumes, of course, that plants are alive.
If you look at Genesis chapter 1, verse 11, God said, let the earth bring
forth the grass, the herbs, and the fruit trees on the third day.
Then it says, He made all the plants on the third day.
If you read Genesis 1, 14-19, it says, God made the lights in the firmament of
the heaven on the fourth day.
And then on the fifth day, He made the living things.
There's a clear distinction here.
Plants made on day three, living things made on day five.
Plants are not called alive.
That's interesting.
Now in our nomenclature today, plants are considered living.
Well, not this one.
This is a fake one, but still.
We would consider plants alive because that's the way we classify things.
But that's not the way they're classified in the Bible.
Plants are not considered alive.
They're a complex, self-replicating food source, but they're not living.
I can show you from Scripture here.
Genesis 1, 24, God said, let the earth bring forth the living creature after his
kind.
This is on day six.
He made living creatures.
Plants were made on day three.
If you read Genesis 1, 29, God said in verse 30, to every beast of the earth and
to every fowl of the air and everything that creepeth upon the earth wherein there
is life, I have given every green herb.
Here there's a clear distinction.
All the living things are supposed to eat the green things.
He's telling us they're not alive.
Now, they're interesting.
They grow, they reproduce, but they're not living.
And I'll show you why.
Genesis chapter 4, Cain brought the fruit of the ground, an offering to the Lord.
Abel brought the flock.
There's a difference here between the fruit and the flock.
You can't get blood out of a turnip.
God was not excited about Cain's offering because it didn't have blood.
Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sin, the Bible
tells us very clearly.
Genesis chapter 6, God said, I bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy
all flesh wherein there is the breath of life.
It has to have breath in order to be alive.
Genesis 6, 19 says, every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort, shall come
unto thee, and take thou unto thee of all food that is eaten.
Here's again a distinction.
Living things and food are not the same.
So the Bible does not consider plants to be alive.
Genesis chapter 7, verse 14 says, and the beast and the cattle and the
creeping things and the fowl and the birds wherein is the breath of life,
in whose nostrils was the breath of life.
Genesis chapter 7.
And Genesis 9, when they get off the ark, God said, every moving thing that liveth
shall be meat for you, even as the green herb.
Now, just like you used to eat the plants, now you can eat the moving things.
Now you can go shoot Bambi's daddy and eat him.
How many do that?
Ready to go shoot Bambi's daddy?
There you go.
Amen.
So there is a clear distinction here between the plants and the living,
moving things.
Leviticus 17 talks about the life of the flesh is in the blood.
Plants don't have blood.
Leviticus 17, verse 13.
The life of all flesh is the blood thereof.
And you can't eat that which dieth of itself, according to verse 15.
So if it dies of itself you can't eat it.
Well, we wait and eat the nuts and fruit after they fall from the ground,
after they fall off the tree.
So if they are alive you would be violating scripture to eat them.
You couldn't eat anything that came off the tree.
You can't pick the peas and then eat them the next day because it is now off the
tree.
So no, plants are not alive.
The Bible talks about the leaf withering in Psalm chapter 1.
It says the grass withers like the green herb in Psalm 37.
Isaiah 19 talks about the reeds and the flags shall wither.
Isaiah 19 says the reeds shall wither.
Isaiah 40 talks about they shall wither.
It is not die, it is wither.
All through scripture you see where plants they fade, they wither, but they don't die
in the sense that humans or animals die.
There is a very different distinction here.
A car can die.
That has happened to mine a couple of times actually.
A computer can die.
How many ever had the blue screen of death come up on your computer?
And your stuff goes to data heaven, right?
There is a lot of stuff in data heaven folks would love to go visit, you know,
I am sure, get some of that stuff back.
A dream can die, the wind can die down.
This is not the same kind of death.
So, no, plants are not alive.
A plant is a complex, self-replicating food source, but it is not alive.
I don't know that you can prove insects are alive in the biblical sense either.
I don't know that they have the breath of life.
They don't breathe through nostrils, they don't breathe, they just absorb
oxygen through their skin.
So that may be a question.
If Adam stepped on an ant, did it die?
Well, was it alive?
Or are the insects a complex, self-replicating food source and not
alive?
I don't know, I haven't solved that one yet.
But I think it is something worth looking at.
The Garden of Eden was perfect.
God made Adam.
He was the first man.
And people say, wait a minute, what does Adam mean anyway?
Who is this Adam guy?
Well, it is interesting, if you look at the ten names given from Adam to Noah.
Fascinating sequence here.
Henry Morris has another great footnote on that one if you want to get it.
Be sure to get my disclaimer with it.
A few things we disagree with.
But he has a great footnote explaining the meaning of the names.
Adam means man, Seth means appointed, Enos means mortal, Canaan means sorrow,
Mahaliel means the blessed God, Jared means shall come down in Hebrew,
Enoch means preaching, Methuselah means his death shall bring, and Lamech means
the despairing, and Noah means rest.
Apparently just the names from Genesis, from Adam to Noah, God is trying to tell
us man is appointed mortal sorrow, but the blessed God shall come down
preaching that his death shall bring the despairing rest.
Right in the names in the Hebrew.
And of course the Hebrew language, they take these things very serious.
Not only do the names have meanings, the names have numerical equivalents.
And that is another long interesting story.
But anyway, God made this perfect world and then it got destroyed.
Adam sinned and God cursed it.
And he said something very fascinating.
I read my Bible for years before I caught this.
It just jumped out the page at me here one day.
Genesis chapter three.
God said to Adam, where art thou?
He was out hiding with his fig leaves on.
And the Lord said, hast thou eaten of the tree that I commanded?
Thou shaltest not eat of it.
Look what Adam said.
The woman that thou gavest to be with me gave me of the tree and I did eat.
This is the type of confession you get out of your kids.
Adam, did you eat of the tree?
Well Lord, that woman that you gave me, you see I am trying to pass the buck here.
It is mostly her fault and partly your fault God.
If you had not given me that woman I would not be in this mess.
But finally he confesses and says, yeah I ate it.
So he says to the woman, did you do it?
She said, the snake, implying that you made, tricked me and I ate.
We confess the same way.
It is not completely my fault.
You are in the courts all the time.
You see these guys in the legal profession.
Did you do it?
Well, not exactly your honor.
It is the system's fault or something else.
You get this all the time.
Adam did the same thing.
It is your fault.
It is interesting also in Genesis chapter 3 God talks about the seed of the woman.
Now this is fascinating scripture.
For many years scientists taught that the man's seed was all that was necessary to
produce life.
They thought the woman just provided the incubation place for the baby to grow.
Scientists did not know that half of the chromosomes came from the woman and half
from the man until really in the last hundred years or so.
Maybe 300 years.
God said that in Genesis, the seed of the woman.
If people just read their Bible there is a whole lot of cool stuff in there.
Like the life of the flesh is in the blood.
How many folks died in the days when they are bleeding people to get them well?
Just read the book.
There is a lot of good stuff in there.
Anyway, Genesis chapter 3 says, unto the woman he said, I will greatly
multiply thy sorrow and conception.
Here is part of your curse.
You are going to have pain and child bearing.
And part of the curse, Adam is going to rule over you.
That is actually part of the curse.
The man is the boss.
Because women often times have a very different view of things and actually
sometimes better judgment.
But the problem is they are tainted by their emotional.
They look at it logically and emotionally.
Well, yeah, he committed the crime, but he is such a nice guy.
Let's let him off.
Men are more just off with his head.
We need that balance.
God puts the two together and it really gets frustrating sometimes and sparks fly.
But still it is interesting.
God said then in Genesis chapter 3 verse 17, an amazing verse.
He said, Adam, curse it as the ground for thy sake.
He said, Adam, you are going to have to work for a living now and this is good for
you.
It is tragic that so many people don't make their kids work.
I taught school 15 years and I saw the kids, you know, that dad would buy them a
new car when they turned 16.
We had one kid out in the boulevard, we called it the boulevard, East Peoria
High School.
They are the boulevard boys who get out there and show off their cars.
He had one of those super muscle cars back in the early, 1970, I think, when I was a
junior in high school.
And he had a switch on where he could shut off the back brakes and only hold the
front brakes on and sit there and peel out with his car.
And the car wouldn't go anywhere.
And smoke would fill the neighborhood.
Everybody was really impressed.
Wow, look at this guy.
He is burning up a whole good set of tires, you know, in five minutes.
He is really smart, you know.
And then he would let off the brakes and take off down the boulevard.
Well, his daddy bought him that new car.
My neighbor, his daddy bought him a new, one of the really fast Dodges back in
those days, 442 or one of those, you know, it was incredible.
The kid had put in five transmissions in two years.
Why?
Daddy was buying it.
My daddy's philosophy was, I'll buy you guys all the tricycles you need,
I'll buy your first two-wheeler, and I'll buy half of your second
two-wheeler.
And after that, you can have any car you want, as long as you're buying it.
That's correct.
And boy, when I bought my first Volkswagen for $300, you know, I washed it and waxed
it and oiled all the hinges.
I would go around my car every year and oil every screw and everything that moved.
I'd fix it.
I paid for it.
And it's just, God said, curse it as the ground for thy sake.
And I think parents make a tragic mistake of trying to make it easy on their kids.
Well, I had it hard, I don't want my kid to have it hard.
Look, they need it hard.
If you help a chicken out of the egg, it'll die.
It's got to pick its way out.
It's got to have, it's got to go through those struggles.
And if the kid's moaning and groaning, I got to walk to school.
Yeah.
We had to walk to school 40 miles in the snow, barefoot, uphill, both ways.
I told my kids, hey, life's rough and then you die.
Get used to it.
Okay.
That's just the way it's going to be.
Okay.
Anyway, Genesis said, God said, I'm going to bring, there's going to be
thorns and thistles in the sweat of thy brow.
You're made out of dust and you're going to return to the dust.
Work is actually a blessing.
Can you imagine a people that are wicked and vile had nothing to do all day,
but sit around and think up bad things to do.
That's one of the dangers of our welfare system.
The Bible says, if you don't work, you don't eat.
Somebody gets hungry enough, they'll go to work.
People that have problems with addictions and stuff, the work's the best thing for
them.
I don't have time.
I got to work.
And people that don't have to work for a living almost invariably end up in some
kind of trouble.
God said, cursed is the ground for thy sake.
That curse that he put on this world is still here, folks.
We still have pain and childbearing.
We still have thorns and thistles.
You still got to plow the ground.
You got to work.
And some of these politicians grew up with a golden spoon in their mouth or a silver
spoon in their mouth.
You know, never had to work a day in their life.
They don't understand what it's all about.
Somebody told me politics.
Poly means many and a tick is a blood-sucking insect.
Think about that one.
Anyway, after the curse then, there was a flood.
The Bible says in Genesis 6, God saw the wickedness of man and his imaginations of
his heart was evil continually.
And he repented the Lord that he made man and grieved him at his heart.
And God said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth.
It repented me that I have made them.
And the Bible says the earth was corrupt before God and filled with violence.
And God looked upon the earth and it was corrupt.
All flesh had corrupted his way.
And God said to Noah, that's it.
I'm wiping everybody out.
Go build an ark.
And Noah said to his boys, boys, go for wood.
We got to build a boat.
And so he went and got all that gopher wood or whatever it was.
And then they built this big boat.
And we covered about the flood and the ark story a little bit more on video tape
number two.
On video number three about where is Noah's ark, if there really was a Noah's
ark.
There are four different options.
Watch video two for more on that.
I'm sorry, video three, the beginning of seminar part three.
Some people have asked, well, hey, if God was mad at the world, why would he
tell Noah to build a big boat?
Why not just make everybody die?
Can't God say, okay, I want everybody except Noah and his family to die.
And they would die.
God could do that.
Why use a flood anyway?
Why make Noah spend, who knows?
Some people say it took him seven years to build the ark.
Some people say 120 years.
I don't think the scripture is clear on the topic.
It took him a long time to build a boat that size.
Why do that?
Well, interesting things to consider about the flood.
The flood left evidence.
A miracle would not.
You can go all over the world and pick up fossils.
There are fossils, which are evidence like this giant trilobite.
Something died.
This is actually a replica of a fossilized arm to an octopus.
You realize how unlikely it would be for an octopus to fossilize?
They're all soft tissue.
Fossilized jellyfish are found.
How can that be?
Fossilized eggs.
We have three real dinosaur eggs in our museum.
Well, they're here today, but they'll be in the museum tomorrow.
Dinosaur eggs.
Thousands of dinosaur and many eggs are found fossilized.
What's the chances of an egg fossilizing?
You know, like slim to none.
And yet there's evidence all over the world that we can pick up today.
And Satan knows this ought to draw people to say, wow, there was a flood.
There was a disaster.
This thing was buried quickly.
And Satan has used very hard to deceive people into thinking that the fossils that
testify of God's judgment instead testify of millions of years.
Kids go to school for 16 years and they're taught over and over.
Oh, this is proof for evolution.
Millions of years.
No, this is proof there was a judgment of God.
There was a flood.
That flood left evidence all over.
You can just about any place in the world dig around and find fossils.
They're everywhere.
Proof of God's judgment.
The facts are still here today, but people are misinterpreting that.
They're seeing the fossils and thinking millions of years.
No, it ought to be thinking God's judgment.
When you look at fossils, I like fossils, and man, I see things have changed.
There's a reed that grows today.
It gets about 15 inches tall, little reed.
They find fossils of them that used to be 150 feet tall.
Something was very different before the flood.
I mean, giant plants lived on this planet.
Huge coalfields.
Something was different.
Plus, the flood, instead of a miracle, gave them warning to repent.
They could watch Noah building that boat every day.
They couldn't watch a miracle coming.
He could preach, hey, 10 more days, you're all going to drop over.
Yeah, right.
But they could see that boat going together day after day.
It was a constant reminder that they could have gotten saved.
And they could have, and should have.
So, how could a flood cover the whole world?
I was debating at University of West Florida, my first debate I ever had,
here in Pensacola about 15 years ago.
I had a few debates with my wife before that, and I lost those all, so I was not
excited about debating this professor.
But you're laughing, you know, don't you guys?
But I debated this professor, and one of the kids in the audience, we had Q&A time
afterwards, he said, Hovind, could it rain enough to cover the earth?
He said, you think it really rained enough to cover Mount Everest?
He said, don't you know when it rains, the heat is released?
I said, oh yeah, I understand, I taught physics.
It's called the latent heat of condensation.
He said, well, heat is released when moisture turns to liquid, and if it rained
enough to cover Mount Everest, it would completely cook the world.
I said, you're right.
He said, but you think it rained enough to cover Mount Everest?
I said, no, I never said that.
No, you're assuming that Mount Everest was there to begin with, and you're assuming
all the water came from rain.
You've got two very false assumptions in your thinking here.
What about this flood?
Several theories about the flood.
I'm going to give you the Hovind theory of what I think happened to cause that flood,
what triggered it, where did the water come from, where did it go, and what
effects can we see today?
Now we cover much on what the original creation was like on Seminar Part 2.
The Bible says there was a canopy of water above the atmosphere and water under the
crust of the earth.
Psalm 24 says, the earth is the Lord's.
He founded it upon the seas and established it upon the floods.
Psalm 33 says, He layeth up the depth in storehouses.
The water used to be under the crust of the earth.
Psalm 136, He stretched out the earth above the waters.
See, when God first made the world, the crust of the earth was stretched over.
Most of the water that's now on top was underneath the crust of the earth.
There were vast subterranean water chambers.
There are still huge amounts of water, huge water chambers down in the earth.
The Japanese drilled down, I forget how far, just recently in early 2003,
and they said there's probably more water deep in the crust of the earth than there
is on the surface of the earth.
Just found earlier this year.
There's a whole lot of water down there.
Well, the Bible says the fountains of the deep broke open.
And it says all of them in one day broke open.
Here's what I think happened.
The earth has cracks all over it.
It seems like a baseball.
The Mid-Atlantic Ridge, the San Andreas Fault, the Hayward Fault, the New Madrid
Fault, the Golden Fault, the Ring of Fire.
None of them are my fault, but there's no question the earth is all busted up into
plates and the earth has gone through some really hard times.
It's busted up like an eggshell.
I think that happened at the time of the flood, not millions of years ago.
The Bible says in Job 38, Who shut up the sea with doors, when it break forth as if
it had issued out of the womb?
And break forth my decree.
He said, he put my decreed place.
Your proud ways can't go any farther.
There's a beach that stops it from coming up here.
But the Bible says the water gushed out of the earth like water out of a womb.
I delivered one of my kids at home.
If you've never seen a baby get born, you need to see that.
One of my friends in college, he was up there getting ready.
His wife's going to have a baby.
She's standing there fixing breakfast and her water broke.
All over the floor.
He came running in to see what's going on and he slipped and broke his arm.
She had to drive him to the hospital.
Set his arm, I'll have this kid, would you believe?
I mean the water just gushes out sometimes when they have a baby.
And God said the water gushed out of the earth when it broke up.
I think the plates of the earth broke apart.
The fault lines are still there today from what happened during that flood.
And the earth is broken up into plates and the plates are still moving a little bit.
Which causes earthquakes, volcanoes, you know, I've studied all that stuff for
years.
People say, wait a minute, isn't that proof of Pangaea?
No, that's not proof of Pangaea.
Textbooks say all the continents fit together.
Well, that's baloney.
They don't tell the kids the truth about this.
This textbook says South America and Africa seem to be a perfect fit.
That's a pure coincidence, folks, based on the water level.
Here's the evidence they give to support continental drift.
They'll say the shapes of the continent seem to fit.
Similar fossils are found on opposite sides of the ocean.
Textbook says, see this?
Same fossils found in Africa and South America.
Well, so what?
Those same fossils are actually found all over the world.
This is just as much proof of a worldwide flood.
How far could the dead animals float in a year?
So they point out the two found on opposite sides of the ocean, but they
don't point out the same ones are found everywhere.
They don't point that out because they're trying to push off a theory on the kids.
This is evidence of a flood, not evidence of Pangaea.
And then they say there are magnetic reversals in the ocean floor.
No, there are no magnetic reversals.
We'll get into that in a second.
They don't tell the kids.
They shrank Africa nearly 40% to make them fit.
If you cut it out on a... get a globe and cut Africa out and then cut South America
out and compare it to what they did in their textbook, they shrank Africa between
35 and 40%.
All of Mexico and Central America are gone in the Pangaea maps.
They don't tell the kids that Europe and South America rotated one way and Africa
was rotated a different way.
They also don't tell the kids what I think ought to be obvious to a kindergartner.
Did you know if you take the water out of the oceans, you will notice there is dirt
underneath?
There is.
I mean the oceans actually have a bottom.
People say, do you think the continents were connected?
I say, what do you mean?
Were.
They still are.
It's just the low places are full of water.
That's all.
It's not like these are hollow under here and they are floating around like lily
pads in a bathtub.
The earth has a solid crust.
I think the Pangaea theory is one of the dumbest theories in the world.
Textbooks say there are magnetic reversals.
No, there are magnetic reversals.
Walt Brown has got a great section in his book about the so-called magnetic
reversals.
If you want to read more on that or go to his website creationscience.com or you can
get the book through our ministry.
Textbooks say these reversals in the magnetic field indicate millions of years
of spreading of the ocean floor.
Well I agree the ocean floor is spreading and I agree the continents are moving.
But I don't think it's been millions of years.
This is a lie in the textbooks.
There aren't really magnetic reversals.
There are areas of stronger and weaker magnetism.
Here is what happened.
They measured the magnetic intensity in the layers of the earth, especially the
mid-Atlantic ridge, and they found some places were stronger magnetically and some
places were weaker.
Stronger field, weaker field, stronger, weaker.
So they drew a sine wave.
Then somebody drew a line through the middle and called everything below average
a reversal.
Below average is not reversed.
If we line up everybody in the room and find out the average height is 5'7",
does that mean everybody less than 5'7 is reversed down in the ground or are they
just less than 5'7"?
See, less magnetic intensity does not mean reversed magnetic intensity.
There's no place on the ocean floor where a north-seeking compass will point south
in relation to the rock.
When they drill down it gets even more jumbled up, as this graph shows from Brian
Young's book, Doubts About Creation.
You can get that through our ministry.
How much is that, Dan?
Do you remember what we sell that for?
$11.95.
Excellent book.
I think that's correct.
You can get our website.
If you have doubts about creation, read that book.
It will straighten them out.
Actually, the magnetic field is getting weaker, which indicates the Earth is less
than 25,000 years old.
Of course, the evolutionists can't have that.
But the magnetic field's decline is really a proof for a young Earth.
Walt Brown's theory is excellent on the fault lines and how the plates spread
about.
We'll cover that in a second.
Here's Walt Brown's hydroplate theory.
We can see on our planet 17 very strange features, which can now be systematically
explained as a result of a cataclysmic global flood whose waters erupted from
subterranean chambers with an energy release exceeding the explosion of 10
billion hydrogen bombs.
This explanation shows us just how rapidly major mountains formed.
It explains the coal and oil deposits, the rapid continental drift, why on the
ocean floor there are huge trenches and hundreds of canyons and volcanoes.
It explains the formation of the layered strata and most of the fossils,
the frozen mammoths, the so-called ice ages, and major land canyons, especially
the Grand Canyon.
The pre-flood Earth probably had only one very large supercontinent covered with
lush vegetation.
There were seas and major rivers.
The mountains were smaller than today's, but perhaps 9,000 feet high.
According to the hydroplate theory, the pre-flood Earth had a lot of
subterranean water, about half of what is now in our oceans.
This water was contained in interconnected chambers forming a thin spherical shell
about half a mile thick, perhaps 10 miles below the Earth's surface.
Increasing pressure in the subterranean water stretched the crust just as a
balloon stretches when the pressure inside increases.
Failure in the crust began with a microscopic crack which grew in both
directions at about 3 miles per second.
The crack, following the path of least resistance, encircled the globe in about
two hours.
As the crack raced around the Earth, the overlying rock crust opened up like a
rip in a tightly stretched cloth.
The subterranean water was under extreme pressure because of the weight of the 10
miles of rock pressing down on it.
So the water exploded violently out of the rupture.
All along this globe-encircling rupture, fountains of water jetted supersonically
almost 20 miles into the atmosphere.
The spray from this enormous fountain produced torrential rains such as the
Earth has never experienced before or after.
The Bible states that all the fountains of the great deep burst open on one day.
And it describes these events about 5,000 years ago, which we can now tie together
scientifically.
Some of the water jetting high above the cold stratosphere froze into supercooled
ice crystals and produced some massive ice dumps, burying, suffocating, and instantly
freezing many animals, including the frozen mammoths of Siberia and Alaska.
The high-pressure fountains eroded the rock on both sides of the crack,
producing huge volumes of sediments that settled out of this muddy water all over
the Earth.
These sediments trapped and buried plants and animals, forming the fossil record.
This erosion widened the rupture.
Eventually, the width was so great that the compressed rock beneath the
subterranean chamber sprung upward, giving birth to the mid-oceanic ridge that
wraps around the Earth like the seam of a baseball.
The continental plates, the hydroplates, still with lubricating water beneath them,
slid downhill away from the rising mid-Atlantic ridge.
After the massive, slowly accelerating continental plates reached speeds of about
45 miles per hour, they ran into resistances, compressed and buckled.
The portions of the hydroplate that buckled down formed ocean trenches.
Those that buckled upward formed mountains.
This is why the major mountain chains are parallel to the oceanic ridges from which
they slid.
The hydroplates, in sliding away from the oceanic ridges, opened up very deep ocean
basins into which the floodwaters retreated.
On the continents, each bowl-shaped depression or basin was naturally left
brimful of water, producing many post-flood lakes.
The demonstrations you have just witnessed of a massive worldwide catastrophe in
antiquity supports the biblical story of the deluge in every detail.
All right, that's Walt Brown's hydroplate theory, which I think is excellent.
A couple key things he talks about in there is that the canyons had to form
quickly as lakes overflowed their boundary.
But the other thing is about the mid-Atlantic ridge.
What would cause that?
This picture here shows that if a spring is compressed and you have two bricks on
top of it, as the bricks slide apart, all of a sudden the spring is going to pop
up in the center.
Apparently the earth was originally created with a layer of dirt for Adam and
Eve to grow their stuff in.
And then granite.
Granite is amazing rock.
There is a place right behind the church here that sells big slabs of beautiful
granite for countertops and stuff.
And I got these samples from him.
This one is from Brazil.
Granite apparently was the original basement rock and it was not formed by
melting rock cooling down.
Well, I mean, Halos.com, Robert Gentry has an excellent book called Creation's Tiny
Mystery, which proves granite was never a hot molten mass.
It was created instantly, like the Bible says under water.
We cover that in video 7.
Under the granite was apparently a layer of water where the subterranean water
chambers were.
And then a layer of basalt, which is a different kind of rock.
The basalt underneath would spring up into the crack as the mid-Atlantic ridge got
wider.
As these ridges widened, as Walt Brown says, it's going to spring up.
The basalt will bounce up in the center and the plates will slide away.
So there was movement of the plates, but that's not proof for Pangaea.
Now what happened, as the basalt springs up, it's going to crack and water is going
to fill in the cracks.
Now today, they're not only full of water, they're full of sediments.
It's been 40, 400 years since the flood.
The cracks are gone.
They're all full of dirt.
But when they measured the magnetic intensity, what they're actually finding
was where the cracks, where the water rushed in.
Because as basalt cools down, it stores a stronger magnetic field.
If the basalt is hot, it doesn't store a magnetic field.
You can put a magnet in your oven, heat it up, it will lose its magnetic
strength.
So it's simply finding the cracks where the earth busted up into plates.
That's all they're finding.
Get the book if you want more.
He's got a whole section on that in his book here in the beginning.
Hot basalt loses its magnetism and cold basalt stores a strong magnetic field.
So that's what they were finding at the bottom of the mid-Atlantic ridge.
There are no places where a north-seeking compass points south.
Now it is true, there is still a little bit of subduction today, as in,
you know, plates of the earth are being drawn under.
If you ever cook pudding or something, you know, and it develops a skin on it.
Sometimes the skin on the pudding all of a sudden will just sink to the bottom.
And if you push it down in one place, it will draw more down with it,
okay?
I think some of that is happening or has happened with the crust of the earth.
Sections have slid down under.
Hawaii, for instance, is over a hot spot and it appears to be moving.
I think there is plate subduction right there.
But I don't think it's been going on for millions of years.
The other factor that really is confusing for evolutionists is when you look at the
bottom of the ocean, there's not much sediment down there.
All the dirt washes into the oceans.
You'd think the oceans would fill up with dirt.
But when they check it out, there's only a few thousand years worth of dirt down
there.
So why don't the oceans have huge layers of really, really deep sediment?
Well, one theory is they're not millions of years old.
The other theory is, well, it's being recycled, you know, it's being pulled
under.
That's why this plate movement theory is so important to the evolutionists.
They have actually several serious problems they're trying to overcome.
We'll cover in a minute.
It's true there seems to be a little bit of plate subduction sliding under other
plates.
I agree.
It's true the earth is busted up.
We have fault lines.
I agree.
That doesn't prove it's been going for millions of years.
The plates are moving, but it doesn't prove time, okay?
And it doesn't prove the rate we see today has always been the same.
I think Walt Brown's hydroplate theory is excellent.
As the water is escaping from underneath, it's going to provide lubrication to slide
these things faster.
Today, there's very little water left down there.
And students, I think, ought to be taught there are other options to this one silly
theory.
We live right here in Pensacola, Florida.
My place is 2.6 miles south of Interstate 10 off Highway 29.
If I go up to the interstate and stand there and I watch somebody headed east
toward Jacksonville, does that prove he started in Los Angeles four days ago?
No, they might have just got on at the next exit down there, right?
The fact that we see the plates moving does not prove anything as far as time.
Here's the flaw in their logic.
They look at the ocean, the Atlantic Ocean spreading about three centimeters a year,
about an inch, a little over an inch a year it is spreading.
And they'll say, see, look at the distance across there.
It's so many thousand miles in one inch a year that proves, you know, blah,
blah, blah, millions of years.
That proves you can be making some assumptions in your calculations.
That's all that proves, okay?
Plus they're forgetting the continental shelf and forgetting the shapes of the
continents is just a pure coincidence.
If you raise the water 600 feet, you know, from here to the highway,
Chicago is underwater.
The oceans average 12,000 feet deep.
Just a 600 foot change would put Chicago underwater.
We'll show more on that in the second session here.
Continental drift theory in the textbooks is trying to avoid two embarrassing
problems.
Number one, the magnetic field is getting weaker, saying the earth is young,
and there's not much dirt in the bottom of the ocean, saying the earth is young.
Those are two evidences of young earth that they're trying desperately to avoid
with their continental drift theory.
Okay, so what about the ice age?
Is it true that the earth was covered with ice?
Well, maybe not the whole earth, but there was ice all the way down to
Kansas City, Missouri.
I was just up in, I've just been everywhere.
I was in British Columbia the day before yesterday, someplace where they have these
large terminal moraines and drumlins, big huge piles of rocks.
You know, as I've studied this for years in earth science, it's fascinating to see
ice when it melts back, leaves behind a pile of rocks.
When I was in Washington climbing Mount Rainier, my sister lives out there,
they had a picture of this huge pile of rocks and somebody standing on top of it
in front of this big glacier.
They're going to get their picture taken.
You know, the man's up there standing on this massive pile of big boulders,
you know, and he's smiling, not realizing, you know why that pile of boulders is
there?
They're coming off the top of that glacier.
So his wife takes the picture just as one about the size of a basketball falls down
just behind his head from about 130 feet up.
If that would hit him on the head, he'd have to open his shirt to eat the
rest of his life, man.
Glaciers leave behind piles of rocks when they melt back.
If it's on the side, it's called a lateral moraine.
If it's in front, it's called a terminal moraine.
But there's no question, there is obvious evidence the earth had an ice age.
All over Ohio and Indiana, a famous drumlin where ice carved around a hill is
Bunker's Hill or Breed's Hill, where the Revolutionary War started.
That's formed by ice.
There's no question there was an ice age.
But the question is, where does it fit into the Bible?
And was it really millions of years ago?
As these glaciers plow ahead, they leave behind all these rocks and they melt back
and the rocks stay there.
And all over places in Illinois and Ohio, you see these piles.
If you dig down in, you hit big boulders.
And they're usually rounded, smooth boulders.
So what caused the ice age?
We're going to cover that in the Hovind Theory.
And what froze the mammoths?
Those big, hairy, hippy elephants that are found frozen, standing up sometimes,
food still in their mouth.
The Beresovka mammoth, found 1901, was a famous one.
The trunk and front foot had been eaten by wolves apparently, but the rest of it was
still frozen in the ground.
They dug it out and put it in a museum in Russia.
How do you freeze an elephant standing up?
And it's not just one, I mean many thousands.
In one year, they removed 20,000 pairs of tusks.
One year.
It's called fossil ivory.
This is one right here, a small one from a baby one.
I've got a friend in Alaska that goes over to Siberia and he buys and trades in
fossil ivory, carves things out of it.
Amazing, beautiful little carvings out of, you know, ancient ivory that was frozen.
Well, how do you freeze an elephant?
It's not just one.
Walt Brown's got a page in his book here about the map showing where all the
different frozen mammoth and frozen rhinoceros are found, frozen camels near
the North Pole, frozen bobcat.
What happened?
How do you explain this from a biblical worldview?
Well, some of the mammoths are frozen standing up, not all of them.
They have undigested food still in their stomach and still in their teeth.
They didn't even swallow their last bite.
They died of suffocation.
There's no water found in the lungs.
And the small ice crystals in the blood indicate they probably froze in less than
five hours.
How do you freeze an elephant in less than five hours?
I got curious about this, so I called Birdseye Frozen Food People in New York.
I called physics professors.
I called meatpackers.
I called everybody I could think of, butchers that might have an answer.
And I said, how on earth would you freeze an elephant?
I called Birdseye.
I talked to one of the scientists there.
I said, if I stuck an elephant in the freezer, what would happen?
It was silence on the other end of the line.
He said, you'd have a crowded freezer.
I said, well, yeah, I know that.
But I said, how long would it take to freeze an elephant?
He said, well, normal freezers are about, you know, 10 below, maybe 10 above,
zero.
Probably take about five hours to freeze an elephant.
I said, well, that's not going to work.
I got to freeze my elephant in, you know, he said, probably take about
five days.
I'm sorry.
He said, take about five days to freeze an elephant.
I said, that's not going to work because the food in the stomach is going to rot in
five days.
You know, the acid's still working.
It doesn't know he's dead.
All it knows is it's acid.
It's going to freeze my elephant in five hours.
They said, well, then you're going to have to find something 300 below zero,
like liquid nitrogen.
Well, it never gets 300 below zero on earth.
The coldest it has ever gotten.
Here's a map from National Pornographic, a geographic.
They said the coldest temperature on earth is minus 127.
That's pretty chilly.
I was up in Barrow, Alaska a few months ago where it gets to 80 below zero.
That's chilly.
But that's still not cold enough to freeze the mammoths.
What happened?
I talked to a guy when I was up in Alaska.
He said, oh yeah, he told me he works in the oil field drilling for oil near
Barrow.
He said they drill down a thousand feet through permanently frozen ground,
permafrost, and hit trees.
He said one day they were drilling and hit a tree and they always take whatever they
drill out and lay it on the ground beside them to go, you know, develop a sample of
what's down in the ground.
He said they drilled straight through the top of a tree that was 300 feet tall
standing up.
This is on the north slope of Alaska.
Folks, I was just up there.
There are no trees.
We saw one tree growing in a Chinese restaurant inside, you know, about this
big.
That's it.
There are no trees in Barrow, Alaska.
There are certainly no trees 300 feet tall.
There are very few trees in the world 300 feet tall.
You know, some of the redwoods are that size.
But how do you get a 300 foot tree standing up under a thousand feet of
permanently frozen ground?
What happened?
Well, I'm going to give the Hovind theory of what I think caused the flood in the
days of Noah.
We're going to give this in the next session.
Mostly, I'll just give you a few things to consider.
Now, many people have contributed to this.
I'll take the blame for it if it's wrong.
It's just a theory.
Some people say, I think your theory wrong about this little point.
Okay, then modify the theory.
That's what it's for.
It's to give you a skeleton to hang the meat on.
Okay, I'm going to, we're going to review a little science and then give you the
Hovind theory.
There's a law called the inverse square law, which says if two objects are
attracted to each other, like the earth and the moon have gravity pulling them
together, or two magnets, the force of attraction is inversely proportional to
the square of the distance between them.
In English, that means if you brought it into one half the distance, it would
quadruple the attraction, not double it.
Inverse square laws apply when you're dealing with forces involving gravity,
light, magnetism, and girls.
See, when you're half the distance, the attraction is quadrupled, not double.
Many guys don't understand that.
See, I travel every week.
I've been home seven Sundays in the last 14 years, which means I get to come home
every week.
I get 10 feet away from my wife and it's, hello dear, how are you doing?
You know, when you get five feet away, it's four times the attraction,
not two.
When you get real close, it's just too late.
Okay, overpowers all resistance at that distance.
So stay 10 feet away, guys, your problems will be solved.
Anyway, next thing you need to consider, when a top is spinning, it behaves in a
very peculiar way.
If a spinning object is struck by something like a gyroscope, if you bump
it, it'll wobble for a while and then recover spinning, but it'll be spinning at
a strange angle.
Spinning tops follow actually a very predictable pattern when they're struck by
something, like gyroscopes, or with the bicycle wheels full of water that we have
at Dinosaur Adventure Land, come over their entire thing with our bicycle
wheels, that you get them spinning and it's very hard to change the spin,
but they follow a predictable path.
You can actually determine when it was struck by tracing back the wobbling
pattern and say, oh, it must have got hit right here.
Okay, the earth obviously has had different North Poles.
They tell you the earth, they build your globes, you know, it's tilted over 23 and
a half degrees.
Oh, it spins this way actually, but it's tilted 23 and a half degrees.
It wasn't always that tilt.
There's quite a bit of evidence on this planet that the earth had different tilts.
Stonehenge, for instance, probably was built at a time to worship the sun or
study the sun, but the earth had a different tilt when Stonehenge was built.
Same with edXus and Amun-Ra.
George Dodwell was the Australian, the government astronomer for Australia
for years back from 1909 to 1950 something.
He was the main astronomer for the government of Australia.
He spent years studying the tilt of the earth in from historical data.
He says the earth was tilted differently down through time.
He made a graph of the tilt of the earth when the earth is moving.
He said the change of the earth angle of declination in relation to its orbit
around the sun is changing.
He said after studying all this it looked to him like something struck the earth
4,350 years ago and made the earth wobble for several thousand years.
And now it's pretty stable.
The north pole is still moving a little bit, but basically it's pretty stable.
But did something strike the earth 4,350 years ago?
Well, that's about the time of the biblical flood, you know.
What happened?
Today we're tilted over and that's what causes the seasons.
The bible talks about summer and winter.
The first mention of cold weather is after the flood.
Genesis chapter 8.
I know there were seasons before.
There was apparently no cold weather before.
So keep that thought in mind.
Third thing, some of the planets have craters on them.
The moon obviously has craters all over the place.
Mercury has craters.
Many of these...
Mars has craters.
What happened?
What caused the craters on these planets?
Mars has a canyon bigger than Grand Canyon and there's not a drop of water to be
found to be proven on Mars.
And there's a canyon bigger than Grand Canyon.
And this article says it was carved in an almost instant Grand Canyon when a lake
overflowed.
Now why can't they look at a canyon on Mars and determine it was formed very
quickly?
And they can't look at Grand Canyon on Earth and can't determine that was formed
very quickly.
Here you've got plenty of water on Earth, almost no water on Mars.
What's their logic here?
And we talk all about it in this article here you can read for yourself about the
canyon on Mars forming very quickly as a lake overflowed.
I agree.
I think many canyons form quickly.
There's an effect in physics called the Meissner effect.
A magnet will actually float on top of another magnet.
If you put two north poles together, one will float on top of the other.
Japanese use this for their high-speed maglev trains.
The Meissner effect.
All this is going to tie in what we call the Hovind theory, but you need to have a
little refresher in science here.
What caused all this?
There are comets flying around through space, but these comets are extremely
cold, like three to four hundred below zero.
Don't lick them.
How many of you have a piece of your tongue stuck to a pipe or a pump handle
someplace in the world right now because when you were a kid you were as dumb as
me?
My brother said, I bet you can't lick that pole.
I bet I can.
Ten below zero in Illinois, you know.
Super cold things exist in space, cold enough to freeze the mammoths.
Next week we're going to cover some more of the Hovind theory of what caused the
freezing of the mammoths, the ice age, and the flood, and Grand Canyon,
and all that.
So tune in again next time.
See you then.
Well welcome folks to the Creation Seminar Part 6.
This will be a continuation of what we covered last time on the Hovind theory.
What caused the flood?
But before we go into my theory of what caused all this, we have to review a
little bit of science.
When we started last time talking about some of the things about science that you
need to be refreshed about, the Meissner effect, and about super cold comets in
space.
Some of the comets, most of the comets out there in space, are extremely cold,
like 300 to 400 below zero.
Now the next thing you need to keep in mind, if you throw a snowball too fast,
it'll break apart.
I know here we are in Florida, probably some of you have never seen a
snowball before, but it's the white stuff, you know, it falls out of the sky.
You know, not the pigeons, but if you throw snow too fast, it will break apart
in space.
You can't throw a snow, you couldn't shoot a snowball out of a cannon, it would break
apart, it wouldn't hold together in one piece.
So if a comet was going too fast, it would break apart.
We saw that when the comet got sucked into Jupiter, Comet Shoemaker several years
ago.
They saw the comet headed toward Jupiter, it kept going faster and faster because
gravity gets stronger the closer you get, the inverse square law.
And as the comet got up to a certain speed, all of a sudden, poof, it just blew
apart in space.
There were 27 pieces that we could see from here that hit Jupiter, who knows how
many millions there actually were, but it broke up into thousands,
at least thousands, probably millions of pieces.
So comets are flying through space, but they have a maximum velocity where
they will simply break apart.
Next thing to keep in mind, the earth has a very strong magnetic field, but the
magnetic field is getting weaker, which means back at the time of the flood,
the magnetic field probably maybe even eight or ten times stronger than it is
today, this magnetic field protecting the earth.
And next thing to keep in mind, super cold particles sometimes are easily
magnetically deflected or statically charged.
For instance, we have the northern lights.
How many of you have ever got to see the northern lights?
I've only been able to see them twice, once in South Dakota and once in Canada.
I had to get to an airport, three hour drive to get to the plane, I had to catch
the plane at seven in the morning, so at three in the morning we left from
the seminar to drive.
So I laid in the back seat and looked out the window and the northern lights were
just going crazy that night.
Three hours, got to watch them, it's unbelievable.
If you've never seen them, they're phenomenal.
You guys seen them in South Dakota?
You live there, you gotta go up at night to see them.
Okay, well, they're out in the daytime but you can't see them.
The northern lights are caused by the phenomena of the particles or energy being
deflected to the north and south pole from the earth's magnetic field.
I think the same thing could happen with super cold ice particles, little fragments
could be deflected to the north and south pole.
Next thing to keep in mind, the pre-flood world was a lot different.
They had a canopy of water or ice to protect them.
We covered that in seminar part two.
And next thing to keep in mind before we give you the Hovind theory, who on earth
is Peleg?
There's a guy in the Bible named Peleg.
If you read through Genesis chapter 10, it's kind of a boring chapter,
I hate to say that, but it's kind of boring.
You know, it's all them names that nobody can pronounce but Alexander Scorby.
And you come to Genesis 10, 25 and it says, unto Eber were born two sons.
The name of the one was Peleg, for in his days was the earth divided.
All the rest of these guys in Genesis 10, it doesn't tell us anything about them.
It says their name and his son's name and his son's name and his son's name.
And all of a sudden it says, in the days of Peleg, the earth was divided.
And then it says his brother's name was Joktan.
Well, nobody else gets their brother mentioned.
Why would Peleg get his brother mentioned?
Well, Joktan in Hebrew means shortening and Peleg means divided.
So, who on earth is this Peleg?
If you get the seminar notebook, the last page folds out to be this
timeline.
You can see Peleg on there a couple of generations after the flood.
Who was Peleg?
Notice Peleg's daddy lived over 400 years.
Peleg only lived 239.
What happened?
We'll cover that in a minute.
Next thing to keep in mind, the pre-flood world had a canopy of water overhead and a
layer of water under the crust of the earth.
Mentioned in Psalm 33, Psalm 136, Psalm 24.
This water used to be under the crust of the earth.
Next thing to keep in mind, sometimes there are two ways to look at things.
If you remember our seminar part 4, you know how fast was that calf going?
Anyway, two ways to look at things in this world.
So, I made a conscious decision 35 years ago as a brand new Christian.
I had kids in school making fun of me for being a Christian and telling me the
Bible's got contradictions and blah, blah, blah.
I went through all the typical persecution of a young Christian and I had to decide
I'm going to believe the Bible until it is proven wrong.
Some people have decided they are not going to believe the Bible until it's
proven right.
I think that's a mistake.
One atheist came to the preacher one day and said, I don't believe the Bible.
I don't believe anything in the Bible.
I believe science.
He said, if you can prove one verse out of the Bible scientifically, I'll believe it.
Preacher said, okay.
He grabbed the atheist around the neck, grabbed his nose and began twisting his
nose back and forth until the blood started coming out.
Atheist said, man, what are you doing?
He said, well, the Bible says the ringing of the nose brings forth blood.
I was just proving it to you, you know.
I don't recommend you do that, but it is in there folks.
Okay.
Anyway, here's the Hovind theory.
What I'm going to do is supposed to be a good teaching technique.
I don't know if it works or not, but I'm going to tell you what I'm going
to tell you.
And then I'm going to tell you, and then I'm going to tell you what I told
you.
So we'll go through this real fast, real slow, and then real fast at the end,
just trying to give a conclusion of what caused the flood?
What froze the mammoths?
Why is the earth tilted?
Why do we have seasons?
What froze the mammoths?
Standing up.
Eight points to the Hovind theory.
Very simple.
I think Noah and the animals got safely into the ark.
Number one.
Number two, a 300 degree below zero Fahrenheit ice meteor came flying through
space.
As it got closer to some of the planets, it broke apart.
And some of the fragments made the rings.
Some of the planets have rings around them.
Why do Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune have rings?
Rings made of ice.
What happened?
As it got close to the earth, some of the fragments would tend to be sucked into the
north and south pole.
And so the earth got snowed on with extremely cold, like 300 or 400 below zero
snow, mostly around the poles.
Now a lot of it would vaporize, I know, coming through the atmosphere.
But just like you can spray a hose right through the middle of a fire, some of it
will make it out the other side.
If you get enough going in the same direction, it'll develop a cold channel
right through the middle of a hot fire.
Super cold ice could dump in on the earth and make a cold channel right through a
warm atmosphere.
If you get enough of it going at the same time, coming fast enough.
Then the fourth thing that happened, this dump of ice on the north and south
pole caused the earth to crack, releasing the fountains of the deep.
Caused the earth to wobble from the extra weight on the north and south pole.
And the rapidly spreading ice, you keep dumping ice in one spot,
it's going to spread out.
And went sliding across the countryside, carving the glacier effects that we still
see today.
It caused the burial of the mammoths.
They're frozen, standing up, food in their stomach, and they suffocate it.
It caused the earth to wobble for a few thousand years.
It made the canopy that used to protect the earth collapse, because when warm air
hits cold air, it rains.
And it opened up the fountains of the deep, and the water came shooting out from
inside the crust of the earth, like the Walt Brown's hydroplate theory
shows.
Then during the first few months of the flood, the dead animals settled out and
were buried.
And plants were buried by the bazillions.
And the big piles of plants became coal, and animals turned into oil, natural gas,
or fossils, depending on how they're buried, and how deep they're buried,
and what conditions they're buried in.
That became the coal and the fossil graveyards over the next few hundred
years.
Then during the last part of the flood, the unstable plates of the earth would
crack and shift and move around.
Some places lift up, other places sink down.
Water's going to fill in the low place.
If we filled this room full of water, lifted up one end of the room,
the water would rush down to the low end.
I think the plates of the earth tilted and water ran off, forming the mountain
ranges, the canyons, and the trenches.
We'll cover that in a minute.
As the ocean thin spots sank down, they became the oceans.
Other spots lifted up, they became the continents.
And the runoff caused enormous erosion.
Grand Canyon probably formed in a couple weeks.
Over the next few hundred years, the ice caps would slowly melt back.
This is going to raise the ocean levels slowly.
That's the only thing to explain the continental shelf.
Why do we have a continental shelf out there?
That explains the shortening of the lives in the days of Peleg, from CO2 being
absorbed by the water.
And we can still see today the devastating effects of this flood.
So that's the Hovantherian nutshell.
Let's go over a little more detail now.
God made a perfect world.
Man wrecked it with his sin.
God said, I'm going to destroy it.
Noah built a boat.
God said to Noah, get in with all the critters.
God said to Noah, come thou, Genesis 7.
That is a good sermon right there.
God didn't tell Noah to go into the ark.
He told him to come into the ark.
Where does God have to be in order to say that?
In the ark.
That will preach.
Later he said, go out of the ark.
He didn't say come out of the ark.
God was in there with him the whole time.
I don't mind taking a one-year cruise with all the critters on board if God is in
there with me.
That will preach.
And then the Bible says, the Lord shut him in.
Genesis 7, verse 16.
If God shuts the door, it won't leak.
Good eternal security verse.
If you are in Christ, you are safe.
People say, do you think you can lose your salvation?
Absolutely not.
Are you kidding?
I didn't deserve it before I got it.
I didn't deserve it while I was getting it.
I don't deserve it now.
If I could lose it, I never would have it.
Nobody would have it.
I'm sealed in Christ.
Not sealed because of what he did.
Then I think what happened.
Noah is in there safe and sound.
A 300 degree below zero ice meteor comes flying through space and starts to crack
up in space.
Some of the fragments become rings around the planets.
Some of them make craters.
A chunk of ice would hit a planet, make a crater, and then later vaporize and
disappear, leaving behind the hole, but no evidence of what hit it.
Ice would do that.
Some planets have rings around them.
At least four planets have these ice rings.
And they're made of not only ice, but also rock and ice.
Now, Walt Brown thinks that the rings around the planets came from earth.
He thinks the fountains of the deep broke open and shot stuff up into space.
He thinks the comets flying around through space came from earth.
Good theory.
I don't know if you could prove that or not, but you have to go pretty fast to get
away from earth's gravity, you know.
But you get supersonic stuff shooting out of the ground from, you know, rocks
blasting up from the fountains of the deep.
It's a good theory.
Could be true.
I don't know.
But these comets flying around through space are certainly super cold ice.
As this sections of the comet or maybe the tail of the comet got close to the earth,
it would be sucked in because of the earth's magnetic field.
It would be deflected mostly to the north and south poles.
So the earth got hit mostly around the poles.
Some fragments might make it through.
The big ones might make it through and actually leave behind craters that after
the flood would still be visible.
Maybe eroded some from the flood, but there could be craters.
I don't know if the Yucatan Peninsula crater is an example of that, but there
could be craters.
Or the big one in Quebec, Canada, 47 miles across.
Something huge hit Quebec, left a 47 mile crater.
That could be from this ice.
I don't know.
But also super cold ice is easily statically charged.
We have a Van de Graaff generator at our place.
You can go over there and stick your hand on there and poof, make your hair stand
up.
You've all seen those before, right?
In physics class.
A lot of fun.
Come on over and you can try ours.
Well, here's my theory.
I think a super cold ice meteor came toward the earth, broke apart,
most of the fragments landed on the poles.
This caused the earth to wobble, cracked the crust, released the fountains
of the deep.
The canopy overhead then would collapse because super cold air coming off of this
ice cap.
Just like when you open the freezer, you can see the cold air flow out.
Well, cold air is like we get the Canadian winds come down, you know, from Canada and
freeze the people down in Texas primarily.
There are cold fronts that move off of big masses of cold ground.
That would happen at the time of the flood and for the next few hundred years
actually from this ice cap sending off these cold waves.
It's still coming today actually.
Scientists just discovered here a few years ago there are still massive amounts
of ice hitting the earth all the time.
Earth gets clobbered by big chunks of ice as big as a house.
It melts in space and ends up coming down just as moisture, but we're getting a lot
of ice and water added to the earth from this phenomenon.
I think this is remnant ice floating around from 4,400 years ago at the time of
the flood.
This article talks about water, water everywhere in space.
Finding lots of chunks of water, you know, amounts of water and chunks of
ice in outer space.
Now, this map shows the North Pole kind of from a strange view.
It shows Greenland down at the bottom lower right and Russia to the upper left,
but it shows what the North Sea would look like without the water in it.
There's an island up there up at 10 o 'clock on your map called the New Siberian
Islands.
There on those New Siberian Islands, they find frozen bobcat, frozen camels,
frozen bison, frozen mammoths.
What's a camel doing up near the North Pole?
And some of these camels are 15 feet tall.
I mean a really big camel.
What happened?
How do you freeze animals up near the North Pole and why were they there?
Well, I think before the flood came, the world probably had very, very small
ice caps, if any, because it wasn't tilted as much as it is today.
If the earth were not tilted quite so much, we'd have almost, you know,
springtime all the time.
There still would be probably small polar ice caps just because of the angle of the
sun.
Probably be colder weather at the north and warmer at the equator, but nothing
like it is today.
When they drill down through the ice, sometimes they find strange things.
Like in Antarctica, they drilled down, which is at the bottom of the world here,
or we call it the bottom.
Of course, you can't tell when you're standing there, but at the south end of
the world, they drilled down through the ice and hit coal.
There's enormous evidence of huge forests in Antarctica where there's not one tree
growing today.
There's not a blade of grass growing down there.
Admiral Byrd said he found frozen palm leaves under the ice near the South Pole.
Here's an article telling about 400 miles from the South Pole, they find dinosaur
footprints.
And dinosaurs.
And thousands of well-preserved leaves found in Antarctica.
What happened?
250 miles from the South Pole, they find frozen leaves in the side of a
cliff.
There are no trees there.
None.
Zero.
This article talks about the discovery of these leaves.
They have their original cellular content.
These leaves are not fossilized.
They're still leaves.
Up in Alaska, they found dinosaur bones and dinosaur tracks in Alaska.
It's cold in Alaska.
Actually, there's a good book by some guys who went up to northern Alaska and found
frozen dinosaur bones, not even fossilized.
It's called the Great Alaskan Dinosaur Adventure.
Great Alaskan Adventure or something like that.
We can get it through our bookstore.
But frozen dinosaur bones, not even fossilized?
Hmm.
Well, we cover more on that in video number seven.
The Earth actually has two North Poles.
We have what's called the geographic North Pole.
We spin around that one.
And we have a magnetic North Pole up here in Canada.
Your compass points to the magnetic North Pole.
Now here in Florida, it doesn't affect us because we're pretty much straight line.
But if you live in Alaska, there's quite a difference.
Pilots have to really watch for this angle of declination because the North Pole is
not really the North Pole.
And they have to allow how many degrees to change their navigation based upon,
you know, because it's pointing magnetic north, not geographic north.
It appears that the ice age, you can look at the map here, it appears that the ice
age is centered around the magnetic North Pole.
There was more ice in America than there was in Russia, for instance.
The ice age effects came down further.
Here's what I think happened.
The mammoths are up there chomping on their tropical flowers, enjoying a
wonderful meal.
And all of a sudden it began to snow.
They had never seen snow before.
So one of them said, Herman, this is peculiar weather we got going on here.
Let's get out of here.
They started running around and the snow got deeper and deeper.
And pretty soon they ended up in snow so deep they couldn't even fall over.
How many of you have ever been in snow so deep you couldn't fall down?
You don't get that in Florida much, but you guys do in South Dakota,
don't you?
And the mammoths ended up standing up, suffocating in 300 below zero,
super cold snow.
They froze in five hours under those conditions.
Because a large chunk of meat takes a long time to freeze.
You ladies know if you freeze or thawed a large turkey or something, it takes 24
hours to freeze or thaw 12 inches.
Well, the mammoths are found frozen so quickly the food in their stomach is still
green, still recognizable.
It didn't keep digesting after they died.
As the ice would go spreading out across the countryside, it would leave behind
scratches in the rock like you see in Kelly's Island, Ohio, or all across
Indiana or Illinois.
There are glacial grooves.
Yes, there actually was an ice age, but it wasn't millions of years ago.
I think it was triggered at the time of the flood.
There are basically two theories about the ice age among creationists.
One theory says the flood caused the ice age.
My theory says the ice age caused the Very similar.
I think the ice age actually caused the flood to start.
I don't think you're going to explain 5 million mammoths perishing at one time if
the ice age came after the flood, because mammoths are a little slow
reproducing.
You know, it takes a couple years to have a baby mammoth, okay?
And to get 5 million of them is going to take a long time.
So I think the ice age had to come and triggered the flood.
Then the ice would still last for a few hundred years afterwards, but probably
that was the trigger.
So the earth had these big cold spots.
Cold air hits warm air, causes it to rain.
It rained 40 days and 40 nights.
The canopy that used to protect the earth collapsed and everybody drowned.
The Bible says the fountains of the deep broke open.
I think because of the impact, or maybe because of the weight of the
earth, or the changing in the tilt, or just the near miss of a comet,
just something going by the gravitational tug would flex the crust of the earth,
causing it to crack.
Several things could have happened, releasing the fountains of the deep.
If you get the book of Jasher, we sell it in our bookstore.
I don't know that this is the one mentioned in the Bible.
There is a book of Jasher and a book of Enoch mentioned in the Bible.
There are some floating around in circulation.
Neither may be legitimate.
It appears the book of Enoch is actually a forgery by one of the cults who wanted to
say, well the Bible says right here, certain doctrines, things that they teach.
So they wrote their own book of Enoch knowing nobody had ever found the book of
Enoch.
The book of Jasher may be that way too, I don't know.
But it says in Jasher chapter 6, on that day the Lord caused the whole
earth to shake.
And the sun darkened, and the foundations of the earth raged, and the whole earth
was moved violently.
And the lightning flashed, and the thunder roared, and all the foundations of the
earth were broken up.
Fascinating book to read.
If you want to get the book of Jasher, it's like ten bucks in our bookstore.
But I think this is another description of what happened at the time of the flood.
The earth actually broke apart.
Something caused it.
Walt Brown says the earth was stretched over the water.
I agree, but he doesn't have a mechanism.
And I talked to him about it.
I said, what caused the earth to crack?
He said, I don't know.
It just did.
Well, maybe so.
But I think outer space meteor strike is one possible solution to that.
So, this dump of ice on the poles caused the earth to crack.
That released the fountains of the deep.
The rapidly spreading ice caused the ice age effects.
It caused the burial of the mammoths.
It made the earth wobble for a few thousand years.
And it made the pre-flood canopy collapse.
It rained forty days and forty nights, and the earth was completely covered by
water.
The Bible says in Genesis chapter 7, all the high hills under the whole heaven
were covered.
This is not a local flood.
When I debated Hugh Ross on the John Ankerberg show for three hours,
you know, I said, Dr. Ross, do you believe in a universal flood?
No, I said, do you believe in a worldwide flood?
He said, I believe in a universal flood.
Now, I know what he really believes, and I thought that was a deceitful answer.
I said, what do you mean a universal flood?
He said, well, it flooded Noah's little universe, which was the valley that he
lived in.
There was no reason to flood the whole world, he says, because, you know,
why kill the penguins?
They didn't do anything wrong.
Well, that sounds good, but it's not scriptural, okay?
The Bible says the hills were covered, the whole mountains were covered.
If you shrank the earth down to the size of this 12-inch globe, all the water in
the oceans would not even fill a tablespoon at this scale.
I mean, I flew back over to Pacific.
I told one of the guys in my office, I said, man, the Pacific Ocean is huge.
And he said, oh, that's just the top of it.
That's quite a thought.
But even though there's huge amounts of water on this planet, when you shrink it
down to this scale, it won't even fill a tablespoon.
Three miles of water spread over the world is thinner than the paper on this globe at
this scale.
This is 8,000 miles across the earth.
Three miles compared to 8,000 is nothing.
And if you smoothed out the earth right now, if you just smoothed it out,
pushed the mountains down, lift the oceans up, level everything out, there's enough
water out there right now to cover the earth a mile and a half deep everywhere.
People say, where'd all the water from the flood go?
Oh, it's still here.
It's gathered into big puddles called oceans.
The water is still here from that flood.
And the Pacific Ocean is gigantic, and that's just one of the oceans,
okay?
When they climbed Mount Everest in 1953, they began to find something strange up
near the top of Mount Everest, the tallest mountain that we know of in
the world.
They began to find petrified clams in the closed position.
Petrified clams on top of Mount Everest.
Up in Peru, two miles above sea level recently, they found giant oysters 11 and
a half feet wide weighing 600 pounds.
Petrified oysters in the closed position.
Now you can walk along the beach here in Pensacola and find a billion seashells.
You hardly ever find a matched pair, and you never find them closed if they're
dead.
As soon as they die, they open.
How do you get petrified clams in the closed position on top Mount Everest?
Well, Your Honor, I'd like to argue first of all that Mount Everest is a little ways
from the beach, okay?
Right there.
Number two, clams don't climb mountains very well.
Number three, when a clam dies, it opens.
So how can we explain petrified closed clams on top of Mount Everest?
One atheist I debated said, do you think the water covered Mount Everest?
I said, well Mount Everest was underwater, but Mount Everest wasn't there.
The mountains actually arose during the last part of the flood.
Sometimes they find petrified clams in beds up to 10 feet thick.
Solid petrified clams.
10 feet.
A guy in Alabama, I spoke up there in his church in central Alabama, he said,
hey, you want some more petrified clams?
I said, yeah.
Why?
He said, they're four feet thick in my backyard.
Every time I row to my garden, I bring up thousands of petrified clams.
Closed.
I got a bunch of them here.
Little tiny ones.
Petrified clams in the closed position.
I think that's evidence they were buried alive in mudslides, which would happen
during the flood, and they woke up dead.
Couldn't open.
They ended up petrified.
Doesn't take long for things to petrify.
Petrified eggs are found, like this picture here shows.
We've got three dinosaur eggs on the table.
You can come see.
Those are real petrified dinosaur eggs.
Petrified jellyfish.
Petrified octopus arm.
Soft-bodied creatures just don't petrify today.
They get eaten by somebody.
Even animals don't petrify in the jungle of Africa.
They get scattered all over the place.
You know, the bones are dragged around.
Even the bones get chewed up.
What happened?
Well, the Bible says the fountains of the deep broke open.
I think the earth got hit.
It wobbled for a while, and it cracked apart.
And the water underneath that used to be there, mentioned in Psalm 136 and Psalm
24, came shooting to the surface.
Then this dump of ice would cause all these effects that we talked about.
And the earth, the canopy would collapse.
It rained 40 days and 40 nights.
We still have the scars today where the earth broke open.
They're called the fault lines.
And you can study earth science from this perspective, and it makes a whole lot more
sense, I think.
The hot water coming out from inside the crust of the earth would hit the water and
kill critters like crazy.
As the water came shooting out, it's going to lift up the basalt
underneath as the continental plates slide back.
As they slide back, it's going to cause what are called... it'll make what's
called wrinkled mountains, folded mountains.
In British Columbia, where I was yesterday, they have mountain ranges there
that are obviously pushed from the end, and it's wrinkled up.
Wrinkled mountains like this have to be pushed from sideways.
This water came shooting out probably would kill everything in the ocean within
a few hundred miles of the cracks, because hot water, when it's regular
water, kills the fishies.
If you poured a gallon of boiling water into your aquarium, you would kill the
fishies within a certain radius, okay?
And when hot water comes out, it does that.
All over the world, diatomaceous earth is found, sometimes in huge collections like
the one in Lompoc, California.
Now, diatoms are really, really tiny, glass-bodied creatures.
Under the microscope, they look gorgeous.
There's some diatoms here.
When they float around in the ocean, they die.
When they sink to the bottom, then their kids die and sink to the bottom,
and the grandkids die and sink to the bottom, and it takes about a thousand
years to get one inch of diatoms.
They are so tiny.
You can take diatomaceous earth, you can buy it at the hardware store,
and you can sprinkle around your house, and it is so tiny, insects get it stuck in
the pores of their skin, and it kills the insects.
It's a good purely natural insecticide.
It's real cheap.
Diatomaceous earth is used in swimming pool filters, it's used in detergents,
it's used in fertilizers, it's used for kitty litter.
The oil dry is made of diatomaceous earth.
When I went out to Lompoc, California, when I was preaching out there,
I went and visited the largest diatomaceous earth quarry in the world,
I think.
The diatomaceous earth is 1500 feet thick.
They dig it out with bulldozers and huge cranes.
They are digging out this diatomaceous earth.
I asked the guy, the foreman at the job there, I said, do you find anything
unusual in this diatomaceous earth?
He said, we find millions, probably trillions of fossils.
Here's a fish fossil in diatomaceous earth.
These little herring are found by the billions.
Actually, he gave me a chunk of diatomaceous earth from the quarry.
This is it right here.
It's just like chalk, so if you handle it, it's going to break.
It's real lightweight.
This one little square foot here probably contains 40 to 60 fish fossils.
Can you see the skeletons in there?
Just in one square foot.
He said it's this way everywhere.
What happened?
They were digging in the diatomaceous earth quarry in 1976 and they came across
a skeleton of a whale.
A baleen whale standing on end.
The whale was 80 feet long.
Now the layers of diatoms were also tilted, so it wasn't the height of the
whale that becomes the problem, but the thickness of a whale.
Maybe 8 or 10 or 15 feet thick.
Now if it takes a thousand years for an inch of diatoms to accumulate,
how are you going to preserve an entire whale skeleton?
You think the whale's going to lay at the bottom of the ocean for 50,000 years
waiting to get preserved?
No, I think something's going to go eat it, right?
The rapid accumulation of diatoms, to me, indicates there was a flood when
hot water came shooting out.
And it just so happens Lompoc, California is right on the San Andreas
fault line.
I think that's one of the places where the earth cracked open, the water came out,
and it killed the diatoms within a few hundred miles, and they snowed to the
bottom.
And the swirling waters would put them in big, huge, thick layers, and they're
digging them out today.
And there's a big chunk of it right there.
You can come see for yourself, the diatomaceous earth.
The chalk cliffs of Dover, also 300 feet thick of solid chalk.
Actually, the Latin word cretia means chalk.
So the Cretaceous age they talk about in the textbook comes from the age of chalk.
That's all baloney.
There wasn't a chalk age.
There were layers of chalk formed during the flood.
Thick layers of chalk, sometimes accumulating in little piles.
And this calcite would get together and end up in huge piles like they have in the
chalk cliffs of Dover over there, 300 feet thick.
The Bible says in Genesis 7, the waters prevailed and increased greatly upon the
earth.
And the ark went upon the waters.
In the Hovind theory, during the first few months of the flood, dead animals would
settle out.
They would get buried.
Swirling water would tend to make them go in little eddies or end up with fossil
graveyards.
Moving water, if you'll go along a river during flood stage, you'll see little
eddies, you know, swirling, little mini whirlpools.
Stuff tends to accumulate in those.
And then when it gets buried, you'd get, you know, piles of gravel, for instance,
like they have in South Bend, Indiana.
Huge gravel beds.
Probably the whole Florida peninsula is all basically sand.
Maybe that was a big swirling eddy that deposited a sandbar, which we call Florida
and live on today.
This would happen during a worldwide flood.
Many of the features of the earth, if you think of it from a flood
perspective, this is the best explanation to explain these things.
Moving water automatically sorts particles by density.
Heavier stuff drops out first.
As the current slows down, different stuff drops out.
We've got this thing on the table here.
You can play with these things all day.
You can buy them at the mall.
Different colors of sand, when you flip it over, as the sand drops down, it
automatically makes more layers.
There's only two different colors of sand in there, black and white, two different
densities.
Why doesn't it just make all the dark stuff at the bottom, or denser,
and all the light stuff at the top?
Instead, it always makes multiple layers.
During a flood, you get this same phenomenon, not just denser at the bottom
and lighter on top.
You'd get them all mixed together.
And it'll make many layers.
You can watch it.
We're talking about something else.
You don't have to watch it.
You can watch it all the time if you like.
Anyway, multiple layering happens during a flood also.
There are several phenomena that happen with rapidly moving mud.
Underwater landslides are called turbidity currents, and they can go incredibly fast.
Back in 1929, the transatlantic cable was cut.
They had an earthquake, and there was a mudslide underwater.
There were several cables.
They knew how far apart they were.
And so when one cable got snapped, and the next cable got snapped,
they knew the exact times when the cable was snapped.
And they calculated the mud was going 70 miles an hour underwater and covered
40,000 square miles.
One underwater mudslide.
Can you imagine during Noah's flood, how many thousands of square miles of
things would be covered by mudslides just from the water moving around?
Swirling water would tend to put critters in in big swirling eddies, and they would
rot.
While they're swirling around for three months, the head rots off, the ribs rot
off, the tail rots off, the legs rot off.
And you end up finding, like this picture shows, dinosaur bones in twisted contorted
positions.
Here's a dinosaur backbone.
No head, no ribs, no feet.
Tangled up messes called fossil graveyards.
There's a fossil graveyard discovered in 1934.
It said the concentration of fossils was like logs in a jam.
Fossil graveyards are found all over the world.
I mean there are thousands of these.
Huge piles of things died, or got buried at least, in one place.
Doesn't tell us where they died, we just know where they ended up getting
buried.
Here's a picture showing four dinosaurs, or small hoofed mammals.
I'm sorry, not dinosaurs.
Four of them in Nebraska that were found in the swimming position.
They're all fossilized, but they were swimming.
Probably in water getting muddier and muddier, and they ended up getting buried,
drowning in that position, and covered and fossilized.
It doesn't take long for things to fossilize.
There's a place in Africa called the Karoo Formation.
Estimates are there are 800,000 million, that's 800 billion, vertebrate animals
buried in this one big formation across Africa.
What happened?
Well there was a flood.
Back in 1878 they found in a coal mine in Belgium, iguanodon skeletons running
through 100 feet vertically of rock.
All these iguanodon skeletons, at least 100 feet of rock, deposited very
quickly, obviously.
Up in northern Canada there's a place called Ellis Island.
There on Ellis Island, Ellsmer Island, there are no trees at all, none,
yet they find petrified redwood stumps up there.
There are certainly no redwood trees growing up there in northern Canada,
okay.
There are only a few select locations where they grow along the California
coast, and up into Oregon a little bit.
And it doesn't take long for things to petrify, not at all.
Things don't petrify very quickly.
We've got some examples here on the table of things that petrified very quickly.
I'll show you those in a second.
Here's a picture of a petrified water wheel.
Here's petrified firewood.
It was chopped on before it got petrified.
You can go to Southern Forest World Museum in Georgia, way across Georgia,
there's a mummified dog stuck inside a tree.
Some people say it's petrified, I don't know if it's mummified,
I've not been there yet.
But anyway, how can a dog get mummified just in a few, probably a few years?
Chased a coon up the tree, got stuck, they named it Stucky of course,
that's the name for the dog.
They had a contest to name it, so they called it Stucky.
They cut the tree down for firewood, there's a dog inside.
Here's a petrified cowboy boot with the cowboy's legs still in it.
The boot was made in the 1950s.
Got his leg shot off or torn off or who knows what, but there's his leg petrified.
Here's a petrified fish giving birth.
A petrified hammer was found from a marine barracks from World War II.
Petrified hammer.
Petrified hat found in New Zealand.
Here's a kid, a kid sent me this right here on the table.
A petrified crayon found in Arizona.
I mean the crayon has turned to stone.
We have right here a petrified pickle.
It's in our museum.
Well, it's here tonight, but a guy sent me this and the jar with it.
The jar is still in our museum.
He said, Well Hovind, I found this old house in Montana.
The roof was gone, the house been empty at least 30 years, but we were digging around
through what's left of this house and found the pantry and there were pickle
jars in there, but the lid to one of the jars rusted and the pickle inside turned
to stone.
Would you like it for your museum?
I said, Well, yeah, of course.
One kid wrote me a letter.
Here's the letter right here.
He said, Brother Hovind, I was eight years old doing a science experiment.
I put a bunch of acorns in a bucket of water to see if they would sprout and I
forgot about them.
A year later, my mom saw the bucket on the back porch.
She said, Get rid of that bucket and all that junk out there.
He said, The acorns had turned to stone in one year.
I have right here a baggie of petrified acorns.
It doesn't take long, folks.
Don't let him tell you it takes millions of years for things to petrify.
It's not true.
A guy sent me a picture of a petrified pin cushion.
The pin cushion, you can see the pins had rusted off, except where you can see the
rust marks where the pins had been stuck in there.
Petrified pin cushion.
They dug up a grave in Tennessee several years ago.
They found the body of the person inside the grave had petrified, turned to stone.
The doctor died and they buried him.
Fourteen years later, his wife died.
It's back in 1881.
They dug a hole to bury grandma and water went into the hole.
And they thought, Oh, we don't want to bury grandma in the water, so they buried
her someplace else.
And the kids got worried about grandpa in that moving water.
It hit an underground spring, apparently.
So they dug up grandpa.
He'd been in the ground 14 years.
And the article says, The occupant of the coffin had been turned to stone,
presumably as a result of the continual flow of water.
It said the arms had rotted off, but the rest of the body had turned to
stone, petrified.
A guy found a petrified man in Montana.
He took it five foot eight.
The guy carried around as a museum curiosity for years and carnivals and
fairs and stuff.
Petrified body of a man found on the beach of Montana, on the beach of a river.
In Sao Paulo, Brazil, a lady went into the hospital.
She said, My side's been hurting.
The lady was 62 years old.
The x-ray turned and found a petrified fetus, a baby, inside.
She'd been pregnant.
The baby almost came to term and died, apparently, and turned to stone inside her
body.
62-year-old lady with a petrified baby inside.
Here's the article.
You can read it for yourself.
I met a guy in Maryland who said he worked at a hospital, Brian Lackey, who lives in
Washington.
There's his phone number.
He was in Maryland.
He said they brought a lady in there and took out a petrified fetus out of her
body.
The baby's in a museum now, or in a medical hospital up there.
Petrified fetus.
Here's petrified sacks of flour found in Arkansas.
A flour mill flooded.
The flour turned to stone.
The sacks of flour were buried in water and mud and turned to rock.
There's our petrified pickle right there.
You can see the jar it was found in.
Come by our museum at Dinosaur Adventure Land and see all this.
So it's true there are layers to the earth.
It's also true they can form very quickly.
I think the flood's the best explanation for this.
Skeptics will say, wait a minute, why are all dinosaur bones found in the
same layer?
First of all, they're not.
But it is true there is a little bit of sorting to the fossils.
And I think there's a better explanation for that than evolution.
They're only told in school this is showing an evolutionary pattern.
This is pure baloney in my totally unbiased opinion.
First place, the fossils are not sorted clearly like the textbook says.
David Ropp said, one of the ironies of the evolution-creation debate is the
creationists have accepted the mistaken notion that the fossil record shows a
detailed and orderly progression.
And they've gone to great lengths to accommodate this fact in their flood
geology.
There isn't an orderly progression.
If there is any progression at all, there's a better explanation called the
flood.
I think fossils are separated by their density and we'll cover that in a minute.
But there is no geologic column.
We covered that in video number four.
They date the rocks by the fossils, date the fossils by the rocks.
It's all based on circular reasoning.
Moving water and liquefaction are much better explanations for the sorting in the
fossil record.
There are several things that happen with high velocity water in a flood moving
around, swirling around the world.
You get liquefaction, you get, of course, abrasion and simple erosion,
and you get hydraulic plucking.
Rapidly moving water creates a vacuum and it sucks rocks right off the side.
The big dam, the dam in Arizona, the Glen Canyon Dam in Arizona,
they had water going through the pipes after having flood season, getting rid of
as much water as they could, and it started going too fast.
And they saw it turn red as it came out the side.
They said, oh, shut it down.
It's eroding the sides of the dam.
Within, I think, 20 seconds, it took from the time that they got the message to shut
the water down, scuba divers went down there.
And during that, I think, 20 seconds, it had eroded an area in the side of the
mountain the size of a basketball court about four feet deep.
Sucked it right off the side.
Rapidly moving water dissolves whatever it's moving against.
A process called hydraulic plucking.
There's another phenomenon called liquefaction.
If you go stand out on the beach, walk out into the surf where the water's
about knee deep, just stand there, don't move.
Every time the waves come by, the high part of the wave is heavier than the low
part.
There's more water.
The high part is going to press the sand down.
As the low part comes past you, it's going to relieve the pressure.
And if you're down there with goggles looking at it, you can see the sand
hopping up off the bottom.
Just stand there and don't move.
Within about five minutes, you'll be about that deep, your feet covered up in sand.
And you didn't move.
What's happening is the pressing and relieving of the pressure is causing a
phenomenon called liquefaction.
This is automatically going to sort things.
Now, during the flood, you would get enormous liquefaction because just the
tides, as the earth turns under the moon, if the earth is covered with water,
the tides are still going to work during the flood, but now there's no continents
to stop them.
Today, the tide just gets going and then it bumps into something like South
America.
So, you know, all the energy is taken out.
But during the flood, you wouldn't have that.
Computer models tell us that if the earth were covered with water, smoothed out and
covered with water, the tides would change 200 feet every six hours and 25 minutes.
Well, today here in Florida, they change, you know, what, 16 inches.
You know, we don't get much tide here.
I've been up to the Bay of Fundy in northern Canada where the tide changes up
to 100 feet.
It's a record, 102 feet.
Anchorage, Alaska has the second highest tide in North America, 30 foot tidal
change.
You can see the water come rushing up and then six hours later start rushing back
down.
So, you'd get a 200 foot tidal change during the flood.
This 200 feet of water would do enormous things to the surface underneath called
liquefaction.
It would sort things.
Actually, a guy took an aquarium, big aquarium one time, and he put a big
hot water bottle in the bottom and poked it full of thousands of holes and hooked a
hose up to it.
Then he dumped into the aquarium dirt, rocks, gravel, sand, mud, dead fish,
dead amphibians, dead reptiles, mixed them all up in a cement mixer and
dumped them in.
Turned the hose on, water came out through the bottom and bubbled up through this
aquarium to fill up the aquarium.
Of course, as it fills up the aquarium, it's going to lift the particles and then
drop them again and the denser ones drop a little faster every time.
Within just a few hours of filling this aquarium, it sorted all the animals and it
put the fish at the bottom, amphibians next, reptiles next, birds on top.
Automatically sorted them.
Now it would look like they got buried in that order, but no, they got sorted in
that order by liquefaction.
Plus, if huge areas of sand are buried under there, if something is lighter and
it's buried by a heavier, denser layer on top, you can get what's called a sand
plume.
All of a sudden, things are moving around pretty soon, it bubbles to the top.
And big chunks of lighter material like sand would bubble out to the top.
That's probably what caused Ayers Rock in Australia.
It's a giant sand plume, badly eroded today.
And you can see if you get up close to it, there are millions of little tiny holes in
it.
It's probably a big, what's called a sand plume, where the sand just bubbled up
through the heavier material on top of it.
Liquefaction also causes the ground to turn like jelly.
During earthquakes, like here's these buildings in Japan, during the earthquake,
the ground shakes, all the water comes to the top, and the buildings just sink in.
If animals are sorted at all, it's probably based on habitat.
Evolutionists will say, Hovind, don't you know clams are found at the
bottom of the geologic column?
I say, well, first, they're not always found at the bottom.
But if they are found at the bottom, generally, that's probably because that's
where they live.
Logic would tell us they'd be the first ones buried, right?
Animals might be sorted based on habitat.
They might be sorted based on intelligence.
You know, as far as anybody can figure out, clams are not too smart.
They might be sorted based on mobility.
Did you know clams can't run very fast?
Might be sorted based on body density.
Did you know clams are a little heavier than bird feathers?
And birds are the last ones to drown in a flood.
So if birds are found on top of the geologic column, that doesn't prove they
evolved last, it proves they drowned last.
Or they ended up floating to the top when they did drown.
So the Bible says the high hills were covered.
The earth was totally covered by a flood.
15 cubits.
That's about 22 feet over the mountains.
Boy, God thinks of everything.
That arc was 45 cubits or 30 cubits high, 45 feet.
So there was, if it had 50 percent underwater, which is pretty heavy for a
boat, still couldn't scrape bottom on any mountains.
They were perfectly safe in there.
God thought of everything.
So skeptics say, where'd all the water go?
Oh, it's still here.
The Bible says in Genesis chapter 8, the water's assuaged.
That means to drop down, to sink down.
Now living, or an NIV says the wild animals, they weren't wild animals,
they were tame.
And it says the water's receded.
That's not technically correct.
They actually assuaged, it dropped down.
If we filled this room four feet deep in water, and then all of a sudden the floor
caved in over here and dropped down 10 feet, that's going to suck all the water
from there into the hole.
That's what happened in Winter Garden, Florida, where the neighborhood fell in.
Anybody see that?
All of a sudden about four houses and everything just dropped down about 30
feet.
Big sinkhole developed.
I think it's Winter Garden, just somewhere near Orlando.
That happens occasionally around the world.
Things just sink down.
Well, during the flood you'd get this sinking process as the ocean floors would
drop out and the water would rush into those holes.
The Bible says the water stood above the mountains.
So I think during the first few months of the flood, the animals sorted out and
fossils were forming.
During the last part of the flood, the plates of the earth are still shifting
and they're unstable, and they began to lift up or sink down different places.
Thin spots sink down, other places lift up, forming mountain ranges.
Water rushes off, forming erosion in a hurry.
Bible says in Psalm 104, at thy rebuke, they fled.
At the voice of thy thunder, they hasted away.
Talking about the water.
It says they go up by the mountains, they go down by the valleys.
Now, many reference Bibles have a footnote right here, because this is an old English
phrase.
What this is saying is the mountains arose, the valleys sank down.
During the last part of the flood, the mountains actually lifted up.
So was Mount Everest underwater?
Mount Everest wasn't there.
It formed during the last part of the flood, as the mountains lifted up.
So that area was underwater.
That's how you explain the clams on top.
But Mount Everest technically wasn't there until after the flood, or during the flood
it formed.
The ocean crust is thinner than continental crust.
They know this from earthquakes, you know, checking the S&P waves with kind
of like doing a sonogram of the earth.
They do that all the time.
Thinner spots would tend to sink down.
Water is going to rush in, filling in these places, causing oceans.
The crust of the earth is about 30 miles thick under the continents and about three
miles thick, three to five miles thick, under the oceans.
And the earth all busted up into plates like that.
And some are still moving.
This map shows the earthquake potential of different areas.
Pensacola has just about zero chance of getting an earthquake.
Now we have a chance of getting other problems, you know, like natural
disasters, like maybe you know hurricanes or tornadoes or politicians.
But those... not much chance of an earthquake here.
I think the earth crust compared to the earth is pretty thin.
30 miles compared to 8,000 is almost nothing.
Kind of like a waterbed, you know, if you push down one place, someplace else
lifts up.
So as the earth settled out after the flood, you would get continents forming.
Mountains arose, valleys sank down, water rushed off, erosion was incredible.
These pictures show the canyon lake dam flood in New Bronzefield, Texas just in
2002.
The water went over the top of the spillway from the flood water and boy,
it carved out canyons, washed out roadbeds in a real big hurry.
Anybody that's been near a bad flood knows it doesn't take long for erosion to take
place.
And if you look out over the world, you can see erosion marks all over the
place.
I fly out west and you look out the window and you can see huge erosion patterns in
places that never rain.
Here's Slick Rock in Arizona.
Obviously erosion did that.
To me, the flood is the best explanation.
When I flew from two days... three days ago from Spokane, Washington over to
Seattle, Washington, you can fly over and see the Channel Scablands.
It's unbelievable.
There's the Dry Falls, Washington out there.
Largest waterfall in the world with no water going over it.
That's left over from either an ice dam breaking causing the Channel Scablands or
from the flood.
This shows what's called the Three Gossips, the rocks formation standing up
with John Wayne riding around there someplace.
The textbooks are going to say it takes millions of years to form these things.
And you can see the buttes and the elevated plateaus, you know, obviously
erosion.
You can go see Bryce Canyon.
Beautiful.
I mean, it's basically wasted real estate, but it's, you know, beautiful looking
anyway.
They say it takes millions of years to do that.
Here's a close-up view of the same type thing.
You can see the little spires sticking up in the ground, off the ground.
They say it takes millions of years.
Oh, there's my ink pen on top.
I don't think so.
There's a pile of dirt we had in the backyard after one rainstorm.
I went out and took a picture of it.
Made what looked like exactly like Bryce Canyon after one rainstorm.
Here's millions of years of erosion along a highway built a few months ago.
Unprotected soil erodes quickly.
It's evidence of a giant lake and millions of years of erosion right here.
You can see the obvious took millions of years to form that, boys and girls.
Oh, there's my glasses.
Another close-up pile of that pile of dirt.
Close-up of that pile of dirt.
It doesn't take long.
You can go out to Montana and see these erosion features that are just enormous.
I fly out west quite often.
I just look out the window and see, man, there was a flood.
But see, God doesn't want people to look at the erosion of the world and think
flood.
He wants them to look at the erosion and think millions of years, because He
doesn't want them to come to Christ.
Here's some pictures of Dry Falls, Washington.
Largest waterfall in the world, no water going over it.
Just incredible erosion features.
You can study that for yourself if you get time to look more into that.
Talk about the water was 300 feet deep going over that waterfall.
Niagara Falls is about four feet deep, the water going over.
300 feet deep water going over a waterfall.
There's an eastern Montana washout.
It's interesting, most of the mountain ranges in the world follow the ocean
basins.
I think Walt Brown's theory is right on track, that the mountains arose,
the valley sank down, the wrinkling of the pressing of the plates as they're sliding
would cause all this.
To me, that's by far the best explanation of all this.
Bent rock layers, as you see in these pictures here, rocks don't bend very well.
Bent rock layers, to me, indicate they were bent while they were soft.
During the flood, you get thousands of feet of mud, and then during the end of
the flood, you get the crust of the earth twisting and contorting, and then they
slowly harden and turn to rock.
I was in Crystal Cove State Park in Los Angeles, California, a couple years ago.
You can see the close-ups here of these bent rock layers.
We got up and looked at them real close, like with a magnifying glass.
There are no cracks in these rocks.
These were bent while they were all very soft layers.
If they were bent after they were hard, they would fracture.
They're not fractured.
These were all formed quickly and all bent while they were still soft, and then they
hardened into rock.
As the mountains arose, the valleys sank down.
The pressure would cause metamorphic rock, like marble, like they make tombstones out
of.
That's a result of the twisting of the crust of the earth.
Skeptics say, how did the kangaroos get to Australia then?
I mean, after the flood, Noah got off the ark, all the craters got off, but how did
the kangaroos end up in Australia?
Australia is surrounded by water.
Kangaroos can't swim very well, they'll say.
When Noah got off the ark, the continents were actually larger than they are today.
That's going to sound strange, but let me explain.
The oceans were smaller because there was still a bunch of ice at the North and
South Pole.
If you froze a few zillions gallons of water and stuck them on the North and
South Pole, that's going to lower the ocean level.
This map shows England would not be an island if the water was a little bit
lower.
You know, the deepest point of the English Channel is 150 feet.
That's twice the width of this room.
That's the deepest point.
30 miles wide, 150 feet deep.
Do that on a graph paper to scale.
It's a straight line.
You could actually walk out to Ireland and to Iceland right after the flood.
You can see on this satellite view showing the sunset coming into England,
you can see the continental shelf.
The water is not deep.
As you fly into Pensacola, you can see the water is not very deep out there,
folks, for quite a ways out.
Between Alaska and Russia, the water is only like 60 feet deep, the width of this
room.
All you'd have to do is lower the water just a little bit and everything's
connected.
So I think right after the flood, the oceans were smaller because the
continents were bigger.
Because the water was trapped in the form of ice at the North and South Pole.
If the oceans were just 10 percent deeper, this would be the beach right here.
The world is basically pretty smooth, pretty flat.
When I flew into Galveston, Texas, you get off at the airport and say,
welcome to Galveston, elevation seven.
I thought, man, one good wave and we're underwater here, you know, seven feet
above sea level.
Not much.
Florida used to be gigantic after the flood.
Probably the continental shelf is where the beach used to be.
You could actually walk to Cuba, jump over the creek.
It could be the Gulf of Mexico filled in a few hundred years after the flood and
water came pouring in as the Atlantic filled up.
It would pour in and fill in the Gulf of Mexico, carving out the grooves around
Cuba.
That could have happened after the flood.
To me, it's a logical explanation.
Mobile Bay, Pensacola Bay, generally less than seven feet deep.
Sometimes when hurricanes come and the air is swirling the right way, it'll dry up
both bays.
The water sucks right out.
Between Australia and Vietnam, the water is only 30, 40, 50 feet deep.
Not much.
So if you lowered the ocean level by freezing, you know, larger ice caps,
you're going to get huge continental shelves connecting everything.
So kangaroos, wombats, koalas, all these less aggressive animals getting
off the arc, they're less aggressive and they would tend to rather run than fight.
So as they move out, they settle in, make a house, you know, and then the tiger
moves in.
Kangaroo says, we're moving, guys.
We're not going to stay by the tiger.
And so they would tend to continually be at the front edge, at the fringe of the
migration wave.
It'll probably take a few hundred years, you know, for animals to spread out around
the world.
And they would continually give up their territory to the more aggressive animals.
And when they get to Australia, they run out of places to go.
But by now the water's coming up and pretty soon Australia is isolated.
So the reason we find kangaroos in Australia is because they were at the
leading edge of the migration wave, running from the predators, and then they
got trapped with no enemies.
Hey, big island, it's all to ourselves, guys.
Let's go have some kids and grandkids.
And then they're covered up, you know, kangaroos over there.
So it's not because that's where they evolved.
It's because the flood's a good explanation for that.
Kangaroo fossils are found other places, but they didn't survive in those regions.
They had too many predators.
So why do we have a continental shelf?
I think the ice caps melting back explains the continental shelf, explains why the
oceans are wider and deeper and colder from the ice melting back, absorbing the
carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.
Next session, we'll finish up a little bit more on the Hovind theory and then tell
you the importance of all this.
This flood is powerful evidence of God's judgment on sin.
And if you've not trusted Christ as your Savior, you're going to be judged in front
of God for yourself.
What you've done in your flesh and in your body, you'll be judged without Christ.
Man, I wouldn't want that.
I'm going to stand there with Christ's righteousness on me.
Say, Lord, you better let me into heaven because Jesus forgave my sin.
Cover more on that in the next session.
Well, welcome to our final section of seminar part six on the Hovind theory of
what caused the flood in the days of Noah.
And where'd all the water go?
And why did God flood the world?
If you look at this map here, you can see Minneapolis is about 600 feet higher than
New Orleans in elevation, 670 feet higher.
But Minneapolis is a long ways from New Orleans.
Actually, it's 1,150 miles from Minneapolis to New Orleans, which means
the Mississippi River, it starts near Minneapolis, has to flow 1,150 miles,
but only drops 670 feet.
You can calculate that out.
That's a drop of about seven inches per mile.
It has to run a full mile to drop that far.
The Mississippi River is what's called a low gradient stream.
It's just barely on sloped ground.
Now, if you built a dam across Grand Canyon, a huge lake would fill in behind
it.
If you built a dam across, you know, the lower United States, you'd cover a
whole chunk of America.
All the Great Plains would be covered.
But a large dam across Grand Canyon would fill in a huge lake, and Grand Canyon had
to form quickly, as we can see from the evidence.
The textbooks tell us Colorado River, over millions of years, formed the Grand
Canyon.
That is simply not true.
We cover this in great detail on videotape number four of our series.
Grand Canyon could not have been formed by the Colorado River.
The top of Grand Canyon is higher than both ends.
The river enters the canyon at 3,200 feet elevation.
The top of the canyon is about 7,000 or 8,000 feet elevation.
Rivers don't flow uphill.
That canyon was not formed by that river.
That river just flows through that canyon, and canyons all over the world are like
that.
Grand Canyon is kind of puzzling because it loops back and forth, but it also has
steep sides.
Now a looping river, meandering they call it, is typical of a low gradient stream.
It's just not moving very fast normally.
Steep sides indicates a high gradient stream like the Columbia River Gorge in
Oregon, and between Oregon and Washington, where the river is flowing real fast down
real steep ground, and it cuts a big deep gorge.
Grand Canyon has both steep sides and loops or meanders.
One explanation of this is the river didn't do it.
Flood water did that as it was rushing through after Noah got off the ark.
One catastrophe can rearrange the real estate in a hurry.
When I preached up in Alaska, I went to see the Chernigan Arms, I think they call
it, where the big Alaskan earthquake dropped the ground down 30 to 60 feet just
in a few seconds.
The point is disasters can rapidly change the real estate, and Noah's flood was
quite the disaster.
Mount St. Helens was an example of a small disaster.
My sister lives right near there.
I just flew over Mount St. Helens yesterday.
Mount St. Helens went into eruption in 1980.
The mud started blowing out the top, but right away the north slope blew out,
and all this dirt and mud and ash went sliding down the countryside about a
hundred miles an hour.
As the mud went sliding down and the dirt went sliding down, it melted the ice caps
on top.
Some of it blew big chunks of ice off in other places, but this released the
volcano and steam and ash came shooting out, and it covered huge areas of
Washington state from this ash.
You can see the clouds here in these pictures as it's flying out over the
countryside.
People were killed, about 60 people killed by this little, which was considered a
small volcano.
Here's a car covered up in ash.
It was buried by this really boiling hot ash cloud as it came over.
They found people all over dead in there.
60 some people died.
You can see in the photograph here how the ash went all the way out to cover part of
South Dakota with ash from Mount St. Helens.
Most of it concentrated over toward Spokane, but Mount St. Helens is
considered a tiny volcano by volcano standards.
Compared to Krakatoa, Mount St. Helens was nothing.
But even still, Mount St. Helens taught us some amazing lessons.
For instance, the mud that flowed down sorted things into layers automatically.
As this hot mud went flying down the countryside, it covered up and blocked off
the Toutle River Valley.
You can see in these pictures here the mud flows that flowed down.
Here's a semi covered up with mud, got caught in the mud flow from Mount St.
Helens.
This was hot mud coming out of there.
Mount St. Helens blew enough material out for everyone on earth to have a ton.
It would fill a 10 cubic yard dump truck every second 24 hours a day for 600 years.
Lloyd Anderson lives up near there and has a creation ministry speaking on creation.
Takes people on tours of the Mount St. Helens area.
If you ever get up to Washington, be sure to look up Lloyd Anderson or see
creationism.org.
It's not his website, but there's a lot of stuff on Mount St. Helens on that website.
This mud flowed down into the valley, blocked off the river.
It also covered up hot big chunks of ice that had been blown off the volcano.
Chunks of ice as big as a living room were blown off the volcano and landed and hot
mud went over the top.
Well, a few days later, the hot mud on the cold ice made the ice melt, turned to
steam.
Steam expanded 1,700 times and blew out steam erosion pits.
Here you can see the steam erosion pits with erosion marks along the side.
Some professor is going to bring his kids here 100 years from now and say,
boys and girls, this erosion took millions of years.
No teacher, this took about 15 seconds.
The big river system that formed about a year later after Mount St. Helens blew is
talked about right here.
It says, the landslide of May 18th buried the river and highway to Spirit Lake to an
average depth of 100 feet.
It also buried most other drainages in the 23 square miles of the upper Toutle Valley
and plugged the valley's mouth.
For 22 months, the water had no established path to the lower waterway.
Then on March 19th, 1982, an eruption melted an ice pack that had accumulated in
the crater.
The waters mixed with loose material on the slopes of the mountains, creating an
enormous mudflow.
In nine hours, while no one watched overnight, the mudflow carved an
integrated system of drainages over much of the valley and reopened the way to the
Pacific.
The drainages included at least three canyons 100 feet deep.
One was nicknamed the Little Grand Canyon of the Toutle because it's a 140th scale
model of the real Grand Canyon.
See, the mud flowed across, stopped the river from flowing, lakes backed up behind
it.
Once they got going over the top, it cut through the relatively soft mud,
just 22 months old, hadn't completely turned to stone yet, cut through that
stuff like knife through butter.
It carved it out.
Canyons eroded quickly.
Here you can see a picture of the canyon, a thousand feet wide, 140 feet deep,
carved in nine hours, probably less than nine hours.
You know, you go to bed at night, you wake up in the morning, it's there.
At the bottom of that canyon is a little tiny river flowing through there called
the Toutle River.
I would call it a creek, but they call it a river over there.
Once water starts going over a dam, erosion can take place very quickly.
Any farmer can tell you that.
If he's ever built a dam to water his cows and the water went over the top of the,
you know, overflowed the dam, it washed out.
We have a demo we do at our Dinosaur Adventure Land that shows the same thing,
how water can erode quickly.
This is the Little Grand Canyon picture here from Lumpkin, Georgia, near Columbus.
They built a house up there, built a shed I think is how it started, and the guy
didn't put gutters on and water came running off the shed and started eroding
this little hillside back in the 1800s.
Now it's a huge state park with acres and acres and acres of erosion that all
started just in the last 200 years.
Well, Mount St. Helens says the same thing.
There are canyons there, miniature Grand Canyons that formed just in a few hours.
Here's some people standing on top of the cliff looking down into this canyon.
If you go down in you can see the sides of it have layers.
It's stratified into layers.
This had to form very quickly.
All the mud washed in there one time, the canyon was carved out at one time.
Does not take a long time for this to happen.
Here you can see the very fine strata here of these layers.
You can get the same thing with a jar of dirt and water.
You shake it up and set it down and it settles into layers in a hurry.
It doesn't take long.
And at the bottom of this Grand Canyon where the Toutle River goes, there's a
little river called the Toutle River.
And if you think that little river made that canyon, you're mistaken.
And if you think the Colorado River made Grand Canyon, you're just as mistaken.
It had to form quickly as the flood water ran off.
So when the textbook says millions of years, they're confused or they're lying.
Now Mount St. Helens also blew a lot of trees down.
About 150 square miles was flattened.
I mean millions of trees were blown down.
And they went in to haul out these trees to salvage what they could.
Trees floated down the rivers.
Here you can see some semi-trucks buried in these massive logs out there.
And if you've never seen the trees in Washington and Oregon, you don't know what
a real tree is.
I mean they get huge out there out west.
They hauled out as many trees as they could.
I mean millions of trees were hauled out to use for firewood and for lumber.
But many of the trees were blown into Spirit Lake, which is just on the north
side of the volcano.
These trees, you can see them in the picture, are floating across the lake.
2,000 acres.
About three square miles of trees floating on Spirit Lake.
They're still there today.
Many of them.
Now thousands of them have gotten waterlogged and sunk to the bottom.
But generally they would sink root end first.
Not always, but they would sink root end first.
And they would sink by species.
I mean the Douglas fir would sink one year.
The pines would sink a different year.
The species separation was interesting because as they sink, then new layers of
mud wash in on top.
And it's going to look like the forest grew down there at the bottom.
None of them grew there.
These were rafted in and dropped off as they got waterlogged and sank.
Here you can see an upright floater floating in the upright position.
Scientists estimate there are 20,000 trees stuck in the bottom of the mud at Spirit
Lake right now.
None of them grew there.
And they're already over 15 feet deep in sediments from subsequent things washing
in around off the shore.
Well during Noah's flood, you would get trees by the bazillions covered up.
Some in the standing position.
And it would get sediments forming around them very rapidly.
All over the world, petrified trees are found in the vertical position,
petrified standing up.
We cover much more on that on video tape number four, about the petrified trees in
the vertical position.
And if a tree petrifies standing up and then later the dirt washes away from it,
the petrified tree is going to fall over and it's going to break up into logs.
I don't know if you ever cut a tree down for firewood or not, but when you cut a
tree down, it does not break up into logs for you automatically.
You got to saw it up with your chainsaw.
Well yet, if you look at the petrified forests in Calistoga, California or Flora,
Mississippi or all over Arizona or central Texas, you find these petrified logs
broken up as if it petrified standing and then fell over.
I think the flood's the only way to explain that.
Well scuba divers went in under these log mats in Mount St. Helens in Spirit Lake
and they could see the logs are bouncing back and forth against each other and it
rolled all the bark off very quickly.
All this bark settled to the bottom, made a thick layer of bark at the bottom,
about three feet thick.
That's going to turn to coal under the right conditions.
Textbooks say it takes millions of years to coal to form.
No, it doesn't either.
Coal can be formed in a few hours in the laboratory.
It doesn't take long.
You get the right temperature, the right pressure, you can turn organic
material into coal in a hurry.
This picture shows a floating log mat model from Stephen Austin at ICR.
I recommend his work tremendously.
Incredibly well done stuff on the coal formation.
He thinks during the flood, and I agree, there were huge log mats floating back and
forth across the ocean.
You'd get acres and acres of trees uprooted floating back and forth and as
they float along they drop off and leave a debris trail.
As they float across then pretty soon mud washes in then they float back a few weeks
later and another layer of coal is going to form on top.
The layers of coal that we see in the world are indication of a flood.
Oftentimes they dig down, hit a layer of coal, dig down some more, hit rock,
and then dig down some more, hit more coal.
I was just in West Virginia a couple weeks ago and you can fly over West Virginia and
see the coal mines that they have.
Layer after layer of coal.
They dig down, hit the coal, dig down a little more, hit dirt, and then more coal.
Multiple layering is best explained by the flood.
Now I debated Jeannie Scott from Berserkly, California and she said there
are 80 separate layers of coal in the Midwest.
She's right.
She said if you look at all the coal in the world, all the plants of the world
today would not form that much fossil fuel.
She's right.
In other words, there's more coal in the ground now than there are trees to produce
it.
Here's a big chunk of coal from our museum.
There is so much coal in the ground, if you took every bush and plant and tree
and blade of grass in the world, you could not form all the coal that's
found in the ground.
She's right.
There's an enormous amount of coal down there.
Where'd it come from?
She said it took millions of years to form all this coal.
No, Jeannie.
It took a big flood.
And you got to consider that the world before the flood was different.
It was mostly covered with land and plants.
The Bible says there were plants over the whole earth.
Today the earth is 70% underwater.
Only 3% of the earth is habitable for mankind.
So she's looking at the world today, assuming that's how it's always been.
Now the Bible warned us about those scoffers that would say, you know,
the way things are happening today is the way they've always been.
2 Peter chapter 3.
But she's wrong about it taking millions of years to form the coal.
It took one big flood in a very different world to get flooded.
The pre-flood world was a lot different.
There's a coal mine in Montana.
10,000 square miles of coal up to 200 feet thick.
Sometimes in the ceiling of the coal mines they find dinosaur tracks.
Hundreds of them.
How do you explain this?
Well, during the flood you'd get log mats laid down and the dinosaurs are walking on
top of it.
And then later they drown.
Another layer of mud washes in and fills in their footprints.
And as they dig out the coal they discover the footprints stuck in the ceiling.
They were walking around floating in the debris trail left behind by this stuff.
Here's a bunch of tracks.
You can see the picture here.
These are all footprints in the ceiling of coal mines.
In central Alabama there's a large coal mine.
They find petrified trees standing up.
A friend of mine works up there in the mine.
He said oftentimes they find layers of coal that are separated.
Pretty soon they come together.
It's called lensing.
Now they're telling us that these coal layers are different ages.
It's just simply not true.
The coal layers and the mud layers all form simultaneously.
Just like with this thing, you can flip it around back and forth and you can see
little lenses form in here.
Sometimes they are layers of rock, layers of dark, in between layers of
white, and the white comes together.
The formations in Wyoming.
Oftentimes the textbooks say it took millions of years to form the Green River
Formation.
When they dig down through the Green River Formation, they find different numbers of
layers between different areas.
We cover all that in video number seven.
It did not take a long time to form that.
It took a big flood.
Sometimes in coal human artifacts are found, like this bell found inside a lump
of coal in West Virginia.
Or this zinc and silver vessel found in solid rock in Massachusetts.
Textbook says this is, you know, 600 million year old rock.
No it's not.
In 1891 they found a gold chain inside a lump of coal back in Illinois.
A carved stone was found inside a lump of coal in Iowa.
Here is an iron pot.
There is a model of it right here on the table.
This is a casting of the iron pot found inside a lump of coal in Oklahoma.
The real one is in Carl Baugh's museum in Glen Rose, Texas.
The sole of a shoe was found inside a lump of coal.
There is an article about it right here.
They said the rock was 213 million years old.
Now coal formed during that flood in the days of Noah.
The Bible says in Genesis 8 the waters assuaged.
They dropped down.
They sank down.
And then it says the water was going and returning.
It returned from off the earth continually.
The Hebrew phrase here in Genesis 8 is going and returning.
The water was going and returning.
Well if you get sections of the earth that sink down, the water is going to rush in
and then slosh back and forth, probably for weeks as the energy gets
dissipated.
This is the best way to explain the horizontal bedding planes that we see.
The mud layers settling out flat and then folding up as the mountains arose and the
valleys sank down.
And then getting washed off by subsequent erosion.
And then new layers being put on top.
These places are called unconformities in geology.
The bottom of Grand Canyon has a huge one.
I think the flood is the best explanation for all this.
Not millions of years of slow gradual accumulation.
The Bible says the ark rested in the 7th month.
Now Noah didn't get out until the 13th month.
If you read through Genesis you'll see God told him to go in the ark, told him when
to go out of the ark.
He was in there for over 12.5 months.
But it rested in the 7th month.
Why would he stand there the extra 5.5 months after the ark hit bottom?
If Noah's ark is indeed 17 miles from the main Mount Ararat, then we have a piece of
it.
This may be a piece of the formation that Ron Wyatt thinks is Noah's ark.
So that might be a piece of the ark, I don't know.
But why would he stand there for all that extra time?
Why not get out?
Well for one reason, the ark water was still going back and forth.
It wasn't safe to get out yet.
Maybe that's why some of the anchor stones are found several miles from where the ark
is.
They might have cut the ropes loose and then another wave comes back lifts them up
and moves them inland a few miles.
Sets them down again.
So that may be a reason for the separation there.
Plus the ground is still muddy outside and there's nothing to eat outside and nothing
to build with.
It would take a while for things to grow again.
Seeds that floated around in the flood would tend to re-germinate and start to
grow afterwards and you end up five months later and now it's time to get out.
There's stuff to eat outside.
The Bible says in the 10th month the tops of the mountains were seen.
So here's the Hovind theory.
Over the next few years, 100 years actually, the ice caps slowly melted back.
This makes the oceans larger, the continents smaller.
It gives us a continental shelf and cold water stores carbon dioxide.
Hot water won't store it.
That's why when your soda pop gets warm, it loses its fizz.
If the water oceans are getting colder, they're going to draw CO2 out of the
atmosphere and that's what plants use.
That's one of the greenhouse gases and that's going to allow more radiation to
get in.
As the CO2 is absorbed, now more radiation gets in and shortens lifespans in the days
of Peleg.
As the ice caps melt, the people are spreading out around the world and they
end up getting trapped.
You got a couple hundred years to spread from the Tower of Babel to spread all over
the world.
In a few hundred years, they could walk anywhere.
And then they ended up getting trapped as the mountains, as the ice caps melted back
and the oceans filled in.
There's a good book about the spreading of the populations after the flood called
Noah to Abram, the Turbulent Years.
You can order that through our bookstore.
So my explanation is, the Hovind theory is, the ice caps were smaller,
they melted back, leaving behind the drumlins, the terminal moraines,
and all the ice age effects that we see today.
And by the time you get to the days of Peleg, 200 years later, most of this is
done.
People are divided, the earth is divided.
The Bible says in the days of Peleg, the earth was divided.
Now there are several theories of what that means.
One theory says the languages and nations were divided in the days of Peleg.
The Tower of Babel incident took place.
We don't know the date for that because it was a different one of Noah's sons that
the genealogies figured through.
The second theory says the continents moved.
I don't buy that one because if you move a continent 20 feet, you're going to kill
everybody just from the earthquakes it's going to generate.
Some people think the water came up and divided the continents.
I think that's a logical theory.
As the ice melts back, the water comes up and things that used to be hills and
valleys are now islands.
And they're separated.
The third, fourth theory is the land was surveyed.
A few hundred years after the flood that have so many people by now, they're going
to start arguing and say, wait a minute, that's my property.
Let's draw a line right here.
Let's divide the land and we'll put a few markers out here and we know, well,
this is my yard, that's your yard, divide it up.
Eventually that's going to have to happen.
I don't know, but the ice caps melting back explains a lot of things.
The continental shelf, the colder oceans and the shortened lifespans.
As the Atlantic ocean filled in after the flood from the ice caps melting back,
it would get deeper.
Pretty soon it starts to spill over right by Spain and it would carve out the
straits that we see there.
As the water filled in, it would fill in part of the Mediterranean.
The Western Mediterranean was filled in probably a hundred years after the flood.
Then it got deeper and it spilled over by Sicily and filled in the Eastern
Mediterranean.
They're finding underwater in along the coast of Egypt and several other places in
the world.
They're finding cities that are underwater.
Why would somebody build a city underwater?
Well, they didn't build it underwater.
They built the city and then the water came up probably a few hundred years after
the flood from the melting ice caps.
Then it finally spilled backwards into the black sea.
There's big articles in the paper, a couple years ago, about they've
discovered Noah's flood because they found cities 150 feet underwater in the black
sea.
That's not Noah's flood.
It's probably from a result of Noah's flood.
But these cities under 150 feet of water are probably from post-flood times.
They built too close to the beach.
Water came in.
They had to abandon their cities.
So the flood effects are still here today to show us God hates sin.
Every time you look at coal, oil, fossil rocks, even gasoline, it ought to
remind you of God's judgment on sin.
God hates sin.
Let me leave you with one thought here.
This is a picture of a guy named Harry Truman.
Harry Truman lived right on the side of Mount St. Helens.
A friend of mine, Tim Barons, I'm on every Wednesday morning on the Tim and Al Show
in St. Louis by radio.
Tim Barons witnessed to Harry.
He said Harry was a very profane man.
He listened carefully and rejected what I had to say.
He didn't want to accept Jesus.
Harry lived right on the side of Mount St. Helens.
The government officials came in and said, Harry, this mountain is going to blow up.
You need to move.
He said, I'm staying right here.
He stayed right there.
He's still there someplace.
Nobody ever found him after the volcano blew up.
Probably under 50 feet of ash right now.
Isn't that dumb to hear, hey, your mountain's about to blow up.
You really need to move.
Get ready for it.
And to not heed a warning like that.
That's what Harry did.
I don't know how many of you have had the warning, this world's going to be
destroyed.
God hates sin.
He's going to judge sin.
Get ready for it.
Get saved.
Get in Christ.
That's the only safe way out.
You've heard that and you haven't done it.
Why not?
The Bible says, He that hath the Son hath life.
He that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
Now, if you've not trusted Christ as your Savior, why not?
The Bible says God's not willing that any should perish, 2 Peter chapter 3.
He wants everybody to come to repentance.
He cannot let you into heaven, though, with your sin.
I'm not going to heaven because I'm good.
I'm going to heaven because I'm forgiven.
And you can have the same thing.
If you've not trusted Christ as your Savior, you ought to.
The Bible says in Matthew, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall the coming of
the Son of Man be.
For in the days that was before the flood, they were eating, drinking, marrying,
and giving in marriage, until Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood
came and took them all away.
So shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
The Bible says we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ.
We're going to all stand there.
We're going to be judged.
And God's going to look at me and say, all I see is Jesus.
Come on in.
Because I've got Jesus' righteousness put onto my account.
I'm not going to heaven because I'm good, and neither are you.
If you've not trusted Christ as your Savior, why not?
Why don't you ask Him to be your Savior now?
It's so simple.
Thirty-five years ago, a friend of mine said, Kent, are you going to heaven?
I said, I don't know.
I've been baptized, and catechized, and pasteurized, and homogenized,
and Simonized.
What else is there?
He said, if you died today, where would you go?
I said, I'd go to hell.
He said, is that what you want?
I said, no, but I don't know what to do about it.
He showed me from the Bible I was a sinner.
I knew that.
He showed me I deserved to go to hell.
I knew that.
He showed me the Bible says Jesus died for me, and all he's waiting on is an
invitation to come in my heart and save me and forgive me.
So, February 9th, 1969, I said, Lord, I'm a sinner.
Would you please forgive me and save me?
He did.
That's getting born into God's family.
Birth only takes a few minutes.
Growth takes a long time.
Birth, just a short process.
You can get born into God's family right now.
Just pray and say, Lord, I'm a sinner.
Would you forgive me and save me right now?
He'll do it.
And you need to write today's date down as your spiritual birthday.
And then you need to grow.
Now, growth takes a long time.
Growth involves reading your Bible, praying, getting baptized, going to
church, studying what the scriptures say, trying to obey God's Word.
Let Him have control of your life.
Let Him be the Lord of your life.
That's the growth part.
Hey, if we can be any help, please feel free to call us.
Our ministry exists to strengthen your faith in the Word of God.
There are quite a few questions left hanging, like what about carbon dating?
What about where do the races come from?
We'll cover all that on video number seven.
Hope this has been a blessing to you folks.
Thank you so much.
We hope you've enjoyed this video series on creation, evolution, and dinosaurs.
Much more important, though, than knowing all the truth and facts about science is
to know the truth about whether you're going to heaven or not.
If you've never trusted Christ as your Savior, let me explain quickly what you
need to do to go to heaven.
The Bible says we're all sinners.
We've all broken God's laws.
We've disobeyed the Creator.
We've done wicked things.
We're sinners.
Some are worse than others, at least in man's eyes, but we've all broken God's
laws.
And the Bible says you have to repent.
The word repent means to turn.
It actually means two things, to turn from your sin and to turn to God.
God's looking for a change in your attitude where you say, Lord, I don't want
to do wrong anymore.
I'm sorry, I've offended you.
I want to do right.
And you turn from sin and you turn to God and say, God, would you please forgive me?
Would you save me?
The Bible says in Romans 3, verse 23, that all have sinned and come short of the
glory of God.
You need to admit you're a sinner.
Number two, the Bible says in Romans 6, verse 23, the wages of sin is death.
We deserve to die and go to hell because of our sin.
But Jesus died for you.
He loves you.
He wants you to come to heaven.
And anybody that will ask Him for the free salvation, God will give you the gift of
eternal life, it says in Romans 6, verse 23.
It's a free gift.
And it says in Romans chapter 10, in verse 13, whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be saved.
If you would just call and say, Lord, I'm a sinner, would you please
forgive me?
And ask Him.
He will give you that free gift of eternal life.
Why don't you just pray with me right now and you could receive Christ as your
Savior.
There's no magic words.
God's looking at your heart.
But if you could say this and mean it, God would forgive you.
Just say, Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I'm a sinner.
I've broken Your laws.
I'm sorry.
Please forgive me.
Please apply Your blood to my account.
Forgive my sins and take me to heaven.
In Jesus' name, amen.
The Bible says if you call upon the Lord you shall be saved.
So if you've asked the Lord to save you, He promised He'd save you.
Now your job is to grow.
Read your Bible, pray, get involved in a good Bible-believing church, and begin to
grow to be a good Christian.
Thank you so much.
Call or write if we can be any help at all.