WEBVTT 00:04.340 --> 00:04.780 Questions. 00:05.560 --> 00:08.900 Everybody seems to have a question that they need answered in life. 00:09.460 --> 00:10.720 Hi, my name is Eric. 00:11.180 --> 00:15.300 In this next seminar, Dr. Hoven takes a large variety of questions that he's been 00:15.300 --> 00:19.780 asked on a regular basis and combines them and gives his best explanation for what's 00:19.780 --> 00:20.080 happening. 00:20.660 --> 00:24.860 He covers a variety of topics such as the Red Sea Crossing, primitive man, 00:25.280 --> 00:26.680 what about radiocarbon dating? 00:27.240 --> 00:29.480 Hey, are there really contradictions in the Bible? 00:30.260 --> 00:34.080 Find out for yourself in this seminar entitled, Questions and Answers. 00:56.500 --> 01:00.640 Welcome to our very informal question and answer session where we deal with 01:00.640 --> 01:03.520 questions that are not covered in our seminar on creation and evolution. 01:04.240 --> 01:06.660 For those just getting this material, my name is Kent Hovind. 01:06.720 --> 01:10.020 I taught high school science for 15 years and now do seminars on creation and 01:10.020 --> 01:12.060 evolution since early 1989. 01:12.340 --> 01:12.860 I've been doing this. 01:13.280 --> 01:16.880 The Bible tells us in the book of Ecclesiastes, chapter 7, he said, 01:16.960 --> 01:20.900 I applied my heart to know and to seek and to search and to seek out wisdom and the 01:20.900 --> 01:21.740 reason of things. 01:22.200 --> 01:25.980 First Peter, chapter 3 tells us that we should be ready always to give an answer 01:25.980 --> 01:28.380 to every man that asketh us a reason of the hope that's in us. 01:28.740 --> 01:32.100 I think it's good for Christians to study the truth so that they can give an answer 01:32.100 --> 01:33.080 to those that are not Christians. 01:33.560 --> 01:36.480 And it's good for those of you that are not Christians to study the truth so that 01:36.480 --> 01:37.480 you can become Christians. 01:37.720 --> 01:40.720 When you get to the top of the mountain of truth, you'll find the Christians were 01:40.720 --> 01:41.480 sitting there all along. 01:42.240 --> 01:43.580 God's word is truth. 01:44.140 --> 01:47.260 In 2 Timothy, chapter 2, the Bible tells us we should study to show ourselves 01:47.260 --> 01:50.900 approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the 01:50.900 --> 01:51.420 word of truth. 01:51.760 --> 01:54.800 So in this session, we're going to deal with quite a few miscellaneous questions. 01:55.200 --> 01:57.580 If you have questions that are not covered here or elsewhere in the seminar, 01:57.680 --> 01:58.540 feel free to send them in. 01:58.860 --> 02:02.920 We'll try to deal with them as time permits on our website, drdino.com or on 02:02.920 --> 02:07.360 our radio program or possibly in a future edition of our question and answer tapes. 02:07.360 --> 02:11.340 One question I often get when I say I believe in creation, they're going to say, 02:11.520 --> 02:13.920 wait a minute, all scientists believe in evolution. 02:14.380 --> 02:16.220 Well, that's simply not true. 02:16.660 --> 02:21.500 The vast majority of scientists may believe in evolution, but it depends on 02:21.500 --> 02:22.260 what you mean by evolution. 02:22.740 --> 02:24.440 But all scientists do not believe in evolution. 02:24.860 --> 02:27.540 And even if they did, that's not how you determine truth. 02:27.900 --> 02:29.820 It is possible for the majority to be wrong. 02:30.280 --> 02:33.500 History shows us there are many times when the majority is wrong. 02:33.960 --> 02:37.200 The majority of scientists used to teach that all planets go around the earth. 02:38.040 --> 02:39.580 That is wrong, as far as we know. 02:39.660 --> 02:41.760 By the way, there are still some folks who believe in the geocentric theory. 02:41.900 --> 02:42.620 I don't fight them. 02:42.680 --> 02:43.380 I disagree with them. 02:43.560 --> 02:46.760 But there are really some surprising number of folks who believe in the 02:46.760 --> 02:47.360 geocentric theory. 02:47.880 --> 02:50.560 But for years, many people thought, the majority of people thought, 02:50.700 --> 02:53.820 that the heavy objects fall faster than lighter objects. 02:54.620 --> 02:56.680 That was taught for 2,000 years, and it's wrong. 02:56.960 --> 02:57.580 It's not true. 02:58.400 --> 03:00.840 For many years, it was taught if you're sick, you have bad blood. 03:00.940 --> 03:02.480 Take out your blood, and you'll get better. 03:03.140 --> 03:04.420 That is simply wrong. 03:04.520 --> 03:05.140 It's not true. 03:05.720 --> 03:07.820 There were places all over the country to get your blood taken out. 03:07.900 --> 03:10.320 They had little white poles out front with a red stripe around it. 03:10.460 --> 03:11.880 The barber was the blood letter. 03:12.500 --> 03:16.460 So even if a majority of scientists do believe something, that doesn't make it 03:16.460 --> 03:16.720 true. 03:17.520 --> 03:19.800 Let me give you an example here from the book of John, chapter 7. 03:21.080 --> 03:23.140 The people, therefore, they were arguing about Christ. 03:23.200 --> 03:26.540 And they said, when they heard this saying, said of a truth, this is the 03:26.540 --> 03:26.860 prophet. 03:27.380 --> 03:28.920 Others said, this is the Christ. 03:28.920 --> 03:31.400 But some said, shall Christ come out of Galilee? 03:32.180 --> 03:35.280 Hath not the scripture said that Christ cometh of the seed of David, out of the 03:35.280 --> 03:37.020 town of Bethlehem, where David was? 03:38.000 --> 03:38.600 Here's a translation. 03:39.820 --> 03:41.400 They're arguing about the wrong subject. 03:42.280 --> 03:44.680 They were arguing, should Christ come out of Bethlehem or Galilee? 03:44.760 --> 03:47.340 And they thought Jesus came from Galilee, so he can't be the Christ. 03:47.440 --> 03:49.460 They didn't realize he came from Bethlehem. 03:50.080 --> 03:51.840 So he was the Christ, obviously. 03:51.840 --> 03:53.900 He did come from Bethlehem, but he was raised in Galilee. 03:54.500 --> 03:58.180 In John, chapter 7, it says, there was a division among the people because of him. 03:58.220 --> 04:01.840 And some of them would have taken him, but no man laid hold on him. 04:02.260 --> 04:05.040 What I get from this verse is, if you don't like somebody, if you don't 04:05.040 --> 04:06.560 like their message, kill the messenger. 04:07.540 --> 04:10.640 And this you see a lot in the creation evolution arguments. 04:10.720 --> 04:12.980 If you watch some of my debates, I've had over 80 debates now at 04:12.980 --> 04:13.340 universities. 04:14.040 --> 04:17.420 Oftentimes they get so angry at me because of what I'm saying. 04:18.320 --> 04:19.600 I'm just delivering a message. 04:19.780 --> 04:22.400 I'm just telling you what the truth is from science and what God's Word says. 04:22.640 --> 04:23.520 Don't get angry at me. 04:24.340 --> 04:27.160 There are folks, there are over 500 anti-Hovind websites. 04:27.340 --> 04:28.540 They really don't like me. 04:29.100 --> 04:30.980 And they all want to get me into an email debate. 04:31.240 --> 04:32.500 And then they say, I won't debate them. 04:32.500 --> 04:34.860 I won't get an email debate them, but I'll debate them publicly anytime, 04:35.020 --> 04:35.240 anywhere. 04:36.900 --> 04:38.260 I don't have time for an email debate. 04:38.320 --> 04:40.080 I type 12 words a minute with 19 mistakes. 04:40.200 --> 04:41.200 I simply don't have time. 04:41.780 --> 04:43.920 We have to run a real busy ship around here. 04:44.440 --> 04:47.500 The next verse says, Then came the officers to the chief priests and 04:47.500 --> 04:50.120 Pharisees, and they said unto him, Why have you not brought him? 04:51.480 --> 04:52.580 Now get the picture here. 04:53.480 --> 04:58.980 The Pharisees sent the officers off to get Jesus. 04:59.780 --> 05:02.620 And then they came back without him and they said, Why didn't you get him? 05:03.480 --> 05:06.600 And the officers said, Never man spake like this man. 05:08.000 --> 05:09.040 Here's the Hovind translation. 05:09.920 --> 05:13.500 The professors sent their students off to ask the heretic questions, but the 05:13.500 --> 05:15.000 professors didn't go themselves. 05:15.400 --> 05:16.620 I get this a lot. 05:17.040 --> 05:18.120 I'll speak at universities. 05:18.260 --> 05:22.900 The professor doesn't show up to ask questions, but he sends his students with 05:22.900 --> 05:23.580 a list of questions. 05:24.080 --> 05:25.980 And you'll see the students pull out a list of questions, and they're going to 05:25.980 --> 05:27.000 trip up Hovind on something. 05:27.120 --> 05:29.160 So they ask me their questions and I answer all of them. 05:29.920 --> 05:32.260 And then they go back and tell their professor, Well, he answered all my 05:32.260 --> 05:32.640 questions. 05:33.140 --> 05:36.080 And the professor says, Well, you should have asked him this and this and this. 05:36.700 --> 05:37.300 Well, you're a coward. 05:37.400 --> 05:38.800 You should have come yourself, professor. 05:39.340 --> 05:41.200 Don't send your students off to do your dirty work. 05:41.240 --> 05:42.780 If you got a question, give me a call. 05:43.540 --> 05:49.120 What I also get from this verse is that Pharisees decided they're going to use the 05:49.120 --> 05:49.440 law. 05:49.560 --> 05:52.800 They're going to legally try to stop this guy from sharing this message. 05:53.140 --> 05:55.000 They wanted to shut Jesus up. 05:55.720 --> 05:59.800 And there are people who will use legal tactics to try to shut up the Christians. 06:00.040 --> 06:02.620 They try to exclude Christianity from public schools. 06:03.180 --> 06:06.460 They can't handle the message, so they shut down the message so people 06:06.460 --> 06:07.580 don't get a chance to hear it. 06:08.120 --> 06:10.100 And that's what I see in John chapter 7. 06:10.780 --> 06:13.720 Then answered them, the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived? 06:14.600 --> 06:16.240 The Pharisees are saying, Are you stupid? 06:17.340 --> 06:20.140 Then they said, Have any of the rulers of the Pharisees believed on him? 06:20.960 --> 06:21.560 Notice this. 06:21.860 --> 06:26.340 Their evidence that Jesus could not be the Messiah was because they didn't believe He 06:26.340 --> 06:26.860 was the Messiah. 06:27.100 --> 06:28.840 Therefore, He can't be because we don't believe He is. 06:29.300 --> 06:32.080 You get the same kind of logic with some of these professors in colleges. 06:32.660 --> 06:34.560 They'll say, Well, all scientists believe in evolution. 06:34.720 --> 06:35.880 Therefore, it must be true. 06:36.720 --> 06:37.800 That's ridiculous. 06:38.540 --> 06:39.660 They don't all believe in it. 06:39.700 --> 06:41.400 And even if they did, that doesn't make it true. 06:41.500 --> 06:44.480 You can see the same parallel 2,000 years ago in the book of John. 06:45.060 --> 06:48.180 Then the Pharisees said, This people who know not the law are cursed. 06:48.840 --> 06:50.400 Here's the Hovind translation of this verse. 06:51.300 --> 06:52.880 We have knowledge, you don't. 06:53.420 --> 06:54.680 We don't approve of your degree. 06:54.780 --> 06:56.160 You're ignorant if you don't believe in evolution. 06:56.300 --> 06:58.560 And you'll see this a lot in the creation evolution argument. 06:59.040 --> 07:01.060 They'll say, We're smart, everybody else is dumb. 07:01.580 --> 07:02.980 I get this a lot when I do debates. 07:03.080 --> 07:06.040 They'll say, Well, the average person in the audience probably doesn't understand 07:06.040 --> 07:07.520 the complexity of this topic. 07:08.220 --> 07:11.240 And I'll say, Folks, what he's trying to tell you is, You're dumb, he's smart. 07:11.820 --> 07:14.520 And that's precisely what they're trying to say in a subtle way. 07:15.520 --> 07:18.780 The next verse, verse 50 says, Nicodemus saith unto them, He that came to 07:18.780 --> 07:22.860 Jesus by night, Doth our law judge any man before it hear him, and know what he 07:22.860 --> 07:23.260 doeth? 07:23.760 --> 07:26.260 They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? 07:26.780 --> 07:29.480 Search and look, for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet. 07:29.720 --> 07:31.160 And every man went to his own house. 07:32.060 --> 07:35.420 Even some of the non-believers were smart enough to realize this guy is telling the 07:35.420 --> 07:35.840 truth. 07:36.580 --> 07:39.320 And we get people by the thousands that write our ministry or call us and say, 07:39.560 --> 07:42.680 Look, I was not a believer but I saw your material on creation and I'm convinced 07:42.680 --> 07:43.720 creation is true. 07:44.340 --> 07:45.260 And that's what we're trying to do. 07:45.280 --> 07:47.080 We want to convince you that God's word is true. 07:47.900 --> 07:51.160 The whole argument here in John 7 started with a false assumption that Jesus came 07:51.160 --> 07:51.800 out of Galilee. 07:52.060 --> 07:53.640 They're arguing about the wrong topic. 07:54.340 --> 07:55.620 The Pharisees didn't believe in Him. 07:55.880 --> 07:58.460 So they said, That's proof He can't be the Christ because we don't believe Him. 07:58.480 --> 07:59.620 If He was, we would believe in Him. 08:00.640 --> 08:01.280 That's silly. 08:01.720 --> 08:03.000 That's the same thing you use today. 08:03.610 --> 08:07.160 Skeptics will say, Has Hovind or any of these creationists published in science 08:07.160 --> 08:07.520 journals? 08:08.680 --> 08:12.220 And when they say no, they'll say, See, that proves He can't be right. 08:12.880 --> 08:13.820 That's their logic. 08:14.060 --> 08:15.980 It doesn't take a few seconds to think how dumb that is. 08:16.720 --> 08:21.600 First place, creationist material is routinely excluded from science journals 08:21.600 --> 08:27.540 because they started with the definition that science cannot include the 08:27.540 --> 08:28.020 supernatural. 08:28.600 --> 08:31.820 Therefore, if your explanation isn't 100% natural, it's not science. 08:32.360 --> 08:34.600 Therefore, creation is by definition not science. 08:34.660 --> 08:35.340 That's their thinking. 08:35.800 --> 08:38.340 They don't realize evolution is not science. 08:38.920 --> 08:41.380 Evolution is based purely on the assumption that things happen. 08:41.480 --> 08:44.020 It's never observed or tested or demonstrated in the laboratory. 08:44.500 --> 08:45.380 It's purely religious. 08:45.940 --> 08:47.320 The majority can often be wrong. 08:47.380 --> 08:49.800 The majority followed Aaron in Rebellion in Exodus 32. 08:50.380 --> 08:53.400 The majority voted not to go into the Promised Land in Numbers 32. 08:53.940 --> 08:57.140 The majority followed false gods many times throughout the Old Testament. 08:57.280 --> 08:59.220 Read through it and you'll see the majority was wrong. 08:59.460 --> 09:01.880 The majority of religious leaders hated Jesus. 09:02.400 --> 09:04.260 The majority of the world hates Christians. 09:05.000 --> 09:08.960 So, it is not true that all scientists believe in evolution. 09:09.540 --> 09:10.600 If it were, it wouldn't matter. 09:11.280 --> 09:12.940 And you don't determine truth that way. 09:13.000 --> 09:16.080 But let me share with you a few Christians who are scientists, who are strong 09:16.080 --> 09:19.620 believers in creation, and who are also very brilliant scientists. 09:20.040 --> 09:23.880 Robert Gentry, a friend of mine from Tennessee, is a brilliant scientist when 09:23.880 --> 09:27.340 it comes to radioactive material and the disposal of radioactive waste. 09:27.740 --> 09:29.160 He worked at Oak Ridge Laboratories. 09:29.200 --> 09:31.520 He published this book here, Creation's Tiny Mysteries. 09:32.280 --> 09:34.120 Excellent book about radio polonium halos. 09:34.240 --> 09:37.500 You can get it through our ministry in our bookstore or on our website. 09:38.080 --> 09:39.440 Robert Gentry was doing tremendous work. 09:39.520 --> 09:43.220 It was published in many major science journals about radio polonium halos being 09:43.220 --> 09:45.080 found in granites all over the world. 09:45.840 --> 09:48.940 I went and met with Robert Gentry, saw the polonium halos through the 09:48.940 --> 09:49.880 microscope in his laboratory. 09:51.660 --> 09:55.400 Everybody was fine until they realized, wow, his research proves the Big Bang 09:55.400 --> 09:56.440 Theory is not true. 09:57.460 --> 10:00.160 And boy, they shut off his funding and his grant money in a hurry. 10:00.280 --> 10:04.920 He finally said, well, we don't have a job for you anymore, just because his research 10:04.920 --> 10:06.080 was supporting creation. 10:06.640 --> 10:11.500 Talk to Robert Gentry up at www.halos.com and see for yourself. 10:13.080 --> 10:17.180 Roger DeHart was a science teacher near Seattle, Washington. 10:17.540 --> 10:21.240 He was told he could not inform his students of errors in the textbooks. 10:21.920 --> 10:25.140 Here they've got textbooks with mistakes in them, but he couldn't tell the students 10:25.140 --> 10:29.880 about the mistakes because those mistakes were used to support the evolution theory. 10:30.840 --> 10:35.220 They said, you can't even pass out current science journals to inform students of 10:35.220 --> 10:36.360 mistakes in the textbooks. 10:37.200 --> 10:38.380 That's not science. 10:39.120 --> 10:43.460 That's that burn the heretic attitude that some people get, or go burn the witch. 10:43.840 --> 10:45.040 Talk about a witch hunt. 10:45.580 --> 10:48.580 The evolutionists are on a witch hunt against the creationists in the public 10:48.580 --> 10:49.000 schools. 10:49.320 --> 10:51.740 They will try desperately to get them fired from their job. 10:52.540 --> 10:55.780 Kevin Haley was a biology teacher at Central Oregon Community College in Bend, 10:55.860 --> 10:56.040 Oregon. 10:56.360 --> 10:59.460 He lost his job simply because he was exposing errors in the textbooks. 11:00.260 --> 11:03.100 He'd say, kids, information on page 87 has been proven wrong. 11:03.640 --> 11:04.240 Disregard that. 11:04.300 --> 11:05.200 That won't be on the test. 11:05.820 --> 11:06.500 And he's right. 11:06.520 --> 11:07.300 It was proven wrong. 11:08.000 --> 11:11.320 I debated one professor one time, and I gave out like 20 or 30 lies in the 11:11.320 --> 11:11.640 textbooks. 11:11.760 --> 11:13.860 And he got up and said, now, folks, Hovind's right. 11:14.160 --> 11:15.480 All these things are not true. 11:15.600 --> 11:17.460 But he said, Hovind, I've got a question. 11:17.700 --> 11:19.140 What are you going to replace all this with? 11:20.180 --> 11:23.380 In other words, we can't take the lies out of the books until I find a replacement. 11:23.760 --> 11:27.720 In other words, I've got to provide evidence for his theory, or else we can't 11:27.720 --> 11:28.700 take the lies out of the books. 11:29.300 --> 11:30.120 Talk about dumb. 11:31.020 --> 11:32.340 That's not the way science works. 11:32.420 --> 11:33.940 You teach the kids the truth. 11:34.040 --> 11:35.240 Just teach the truth. 11:35.760 --> 11:39.080 And if all you have are lies to back up your theory, then get a new theory. 11:40.740 --> 11:45.460 In Texas, Baylor University fired William Dembski just because he advocated that 11:45.460 --> 11:47.040 there might be an intelligent designer. 11:48.000 --> 11:48.840 That's heresy. 11:48.940 --> 11:49.780 There could be a designer. 11:50.000 --> 11:50.600 You're out of here. 11:50.660 --> 11:51.100 You're fired. 11:51.860 --> 11:53.780 Forrest Mimms was a science writer for 20 years. 11:53.920 --> 11:56.600 He published in National Geographic, Science Digest, American Journal of 11:56.600 --> 11:58.640 Physics, over 60 magazines and newspapers. 11:59.500 --> 12:03.560 He was denied a job as science writer for Scientific American simply because he was 12:03.560 --> 12:04.660 a creationist. 12:05.280 --> 12:07.180 They didn't want to have a creationist on their staff. 12:07.840 --> 12:12.460 Teacher Rod LeVake was told he could not share information that might help students 12:12.460 --> 12:13.600 doubt Darwin's theory. 12:14.220 --> 12:15.920 See, Darwin's theory is sacred. 12:16.940 --> 12:20.000 You don't question it without losing your job in many school systems. 12:20.180 --> 12:22.680 The same thing happened in Russia 10-15 years ago. 12:22.920 --> 12:25.660 If a teacher got up in their class and said, kids, I don't believe communism 12:25.660 --> 12:29.540 works, he'd be out of a job and maybe out of the country. 12:29.960 --> 12:33.380 Or out of this life, they'd kill him or send him off to Siberia. 12:33.780 --> 12:37.320 You get the same kind of academic Siberia people sent off to academic Siberia if 12:37.320 --> 12:41.520 they don't support the evolution theory right here in America, the land of the fee 12:41.520 --> 12:42.220 and the home of the slave. 12:42.960 --> 12:47.060 Mr. Eller told his teacher Dan Clark in Lafayette, Indiana, Mr. Eller was the 12:47.060 --> 12:50.720 superintendent, that he could not introduce creationism to his class. 12:51.340 --> 12:53.120 So Dan Clark resigned. 12:53.220 --> 12:53.500 He quit. 12:54.980 --> 12:58.520 Many good teachers are dropping out of the public school system because they're not 12:58.520 --> 12:59.860 allowed to teach kids the truth. 13:00.580 --> 13:02.220 The problem is not the law. 13:02.300 --> 13:03.740 The law says you can teach creation. 13:04.100 --> 13:05.620 Not a problem to teach creation legally. 13:06.140 --> 13:09.880 The courts have ruled it's okay to teach creation, but the boss says don't do it. 13:10.720 --> 13:14.240 The ACLU, which is the American Communist Lawyers Union, they learned years ago, 13:14.320 --> 13:17.940 all they have to do is threaten to sue and the school will back down. 13:18.260 --> 13:21.040 Even though the ACLU knows they will lose the suit, it doesn't matter. 13:21.460 --> 13:25.080 The threat of a suit is enough to make the teachers get fired. 13:25.400 --> 13:26.180 Just the threat of a suit. 13:26.900 --> 13:27.680 And so that's what's happening. 13:27.740 --> 13:29.820 We're losing by default and not even putting up a good fight. 13:30.340 --> 13:34.340 Dean Kenyon was a professor at San Francisco State University in San 13:34.340 --> 13:34.620 Francisco. 13:35.080 --> 13:36.780 He wrote many books about evolution. 13:36.880 --> 13:38.420 He was the poster boy for the evolutionists. 13:38.480 --> 13:39.860 He was a strong believer in the theory. 13:40.200 --> 13:43.660 And one day he got converted and began to believe in creation. 13:43.820 --> 13:44.460 And they fired him. 13:45.280 --> 13:45.800 He sued. 13:45.900 --> 13:49.180 They put him back in as a lab assistant, you know, washing test tubes, which the 13:49.180 --> 13:49.960 students do normally. 13:49.980 --> 13:52.160 And here's a guy, 20 year, I believe, tenured professor. 13:53.040 --> 13:55.440 Finally after a long battle he was reinstated with his job. 13:55.620 --> 13:57.840 But if he hadn't been tenured he wouldn't have kept his job. 13:58.220 --> 13:59.200 That's what happened to Dean Kenyon. 13:59.260 --> 14:01.740 He wrote the book Of Pandas and People, which you can get through our ministry. 14:02.720 --> 14:07.220 Dr. Dinney at Texas Tech University had on his website for years that if you wanted 14:07.220 --> 14:11.660 to get recommended for medical school, he's from Lubbock, Texas, that you had to 14:11.660 --> 14:13.200 confess to believing in evolution. 14:13.380 --> 14:16.120 If you don't believe in evolution, he's not going to recommend you for 14:16.120 --> 14:16.720 medical school. 14:17.300 --> 14:22.400 When I spoke in Lubbock, Texas in the fall of 2002, the students there got together 14:22.400 --> 14:25.240 and offered Dinney $900 if he would debate me. 14:26.100 --> 14:26.920 He refused. 14:27.020 --> 14:28.860 He wouldn't debate for two hours for $900. 14:29.520 --> 14:32.320 I don't know how much he makes an hour, but I suspect it's not quite that much. 14:33.000 --> 14:37.340 So, Mr. Dinney, I'll come anytime anywhere and take you on intellectually in a debate 14:37.340 --> 14:38.340 on creation and evolution. 14:38.440 --> 14:41.960 Evolution is one of the dumbest ideas in the history of humanity, and the devil is 14:41.960 --> 14:44.020 laughing at you for believing in that silly theory. 14:44.700 --> 14:46.720 And if you don't trust Christ, you're going to go to hell. 14:47.220 --> 14:47.920 I'm not your enemy. 14:48.020 --> 14:48.660 I'm your friend. 14:48.780 --> 14:49.860 I don't want to see you go to hell. 14:50.080 --> 14:51.180 I'd like to see you get converted. 14:51.620 --> 14:56.000 But what you're doing is unfair and certainly unwise and, I think, 14:56.060 --> 14:56.600 un-American. 14:57.220 --> 15:00.820 To require a student to believe a certain religion, and all you have is a religious 15:00.820 --> 15:04.180 worldview of evolution, and you require students to believe that before you give 15:04.180 --> 15:05.040 them a recommendation letter. 15:05.120 --> 15:05.900 Come on, grow up. 15:06.400 --> 15:07.720 Let kids learn the truth. 15:08.320 --> 15:11.480 We can go on and on about how people are discriminated against because of their 15:11.480 --> 15:12.300 belief in creation. 15:13.340 --> 15:18.140 Patrick Henry College was notified they were going to deny their recommendation to 15:18.140 --> 15:21.060 be accredited simply because they didn't believe in evolution. 15:21.640 --> 15:24.700 We'll have lots of information on our website about how students or universities 15:24.700 --> 15:29.020 or teachers are discriminated against because of their belief in creation. 15:29.560 --> 15:30.540 Now, it wasn't always this way. 15:30.880 --> 15:34.900 If you go back in the past 100 years ago, 200 years ago, all the scientists believed 15:34.900 --> 15:35.460 in creation. 15:36.200 --> 15:37.700 Here's a list of quite a few scientists. 15:37.860 --> 15:43.120 Francis Bacon, Johann Kepler, Blaise Pascal, Robert Boyle, Isaac Newton. 15:43.360 --> 15:46.540 These guys were the founders of major branches of science, Carolus Linnaeus, 15:46.760 --> 15:48.020 and they were creationists. 15:48.300 --> 15:48.960 George Cuvier. 15:50.220 --> 15:53.980 On and on the list goes of hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of very famous 15:53.980 --> 15:55.960 scientists who were creationists. 15:56.380 --> 15:59.740 Not always young earth creationists, but certainly creationists. 15:59.800 --> 16:01.340 And many were young earth creationists. 16:01.740 --> 16:05.340 Richard Owen, Luis Agassi, James Jewell. 16:05.560 --> 16:09.600 All you've got to do is notice, folks, nearly all branches of science are 16:09.600 --> 16:13.540 started by people who believed in creation, not people who believed in 16:13.540 --> 16:13.880 evolution. 16:14.440 --> 16:15.920 The evolutionists don't come up with anything. 16:16.020 --> 16:16.780 They don't create anything. 16:16.860 --> 16:18.940 They come in and take over an institution that's already going. 16:19.240 --> 16:21.740 And many Christian colleges have been taken over by evolutionists. 16:22.080 --> 16:24.440 Harvard, Princeton, Yale started off as Christian schools. 16:24.940 --> 16:27.200 And now they've been taken over by those who believe in evolution. 16:27.500 --> 16:28.840 The evolutionists don't go start something. 16:28.920 --> 16:31.840 They just take over like a leech, you know, or a tick, or a parasite, 16:32.280 --> 16:33.500 what somebody else has already created. 16:34.180 --> 16:37.100 Wernher von Braun, a space scientist, was a strong believer in creation. 16:38.860 --> 16:39.800 There are many books out. 16:39.820 --> 16:43.840 There's a good book, In Six Days, Why 50 Scientists Chose to Believe in 16:43.840 --> 16:44.360 Creation. 16:44.900 --> 16:46.120 There are quite a few books on this topic. 16:46.240 --> 16:48.140 You can see our website, drdiener.com, and get more. 16:48.440 --> 16:49.460 Okay, next question. 16:50.180 --> 16:51.360 What about separation of church and state? 16:51.420 --> 16:53.460 Is it okay to discuss creation in public schools? 16:54.420 --> 16:56.680 Well, first place, the phrase, separation of church and state, 16:56.920 --> 16:58.460 is not found in the Constitution. 16:59.160 --> 17:02.980 Don't let somebody tell you that the law says there has to be a separation of 17:02.980 --> 17:03.420 church and state. 17:03.480 --> 17:03.960 That's baloney. 17:04.580 --> 17:07.820 That phrase was used by Thomas Jefferson in a letter that he wrote to some pastors 17:07.820 --> 17:10.580 in the Danbury Association, a Baptist association in Connecticut. 17:11.120 --> 17:14.520 He's the one that said, the First Amendment has erected a wall of separation 17:14.520 --> 17:15.580 between church and state. 17:15.800 --> 17:16.760 Thomas Jefferson said that. 17:17.020 --> 17:18.060 It's not in the Constitution. 17:18.840 --> 17:21.780 And by the way, if there's a wall between the two, it's a one-dimensional wall. 17:21.880 --> 17:23.340 It keeps the government out of the church. 17:23.480 --> 17:26.200 It was not designed to keep the church out of the government. 17:27.100 --> 17:31.000 So, there's no such thing as separation of church and state found in the 17:31.000 --> 17:31.440 Constitution. 17:32.040 --> 17:34.240 The fact of the matter is the Founding Fathers, when they gave the First 17:34.240 --> 17:39.180 Amendment, Article 1, the same day, I believe, voted to give, I think, 17:39.240 --> 17:44.260 $7,000 or $10,000 or $15,000 or something to a mission in St. Louis to help a 17:44.260 --> 17:47.340 Catholic mission reach the Indians there with what they thought was the gospel. 17:48.780 --> 17:53.180 So, just go to wallbuilders.com, David Barton's excellent website, 17:53.260 --> 17:54.100 and get some of his material. 17:54.200 --> 17:56.960 And you can see how that the Founding Fathers were certainly strong believers in 17:56.960 --> 18:01.700 creation and had no intention of the government getting involved in the church, 18:01.760 --> 18:04.560 but they had every intention of the church getting involved in the government. 18:05.440 --> 18:09.100 And the idea of no Christianity in public schools would have been anathema to the 18:09.100 --> 18:09.720 Founding Fathers. 18:10.400 --> 18:12.480 They would have sent those guys off on a ship to some other country. 18:13.300 --> 18:14.240 Okay, next question. 18:15.200 --> 18:17.540 How do we see stars that are billions of light years away? 18:18.460 --> 18:20.620 I get this question every seminar I do, I believe. 18:21.020 --> 18:23.240 There's no question there's an awful lot of stars out there. 18:23.620 --> 18:27.340 The Bible says in Nehemiah chapter 9, Thou, even thou art Lord alone. 18:27.460 --> 18:29.920 Thou hast made the heaven and the heaven of heavens. 18:32.360 --> 18:35.600 God created all the stars and there's an awful lot of stars out there. 18:36.160 --> 18:37.980 It's interesting, stars blow up every once in a while. 18:38.060 --> 18:40.640 They run out of fuel or whatever happens and they implode and then explode. 18:40.760 --> 18:42.920 It's called a nova, or if it's a big one it's called a supernova. 18:43.340 --> 18:45.760 It seems that about every 30 years a star explodes. 18:46.700 --> 18:50.820 Well, after searching the heavens they've only found 300 supernova rings. 18:51.660 --> 18:55.600 So the question would be, if the universe is millions of years old, why aren't there 18:55.600 --> 18:58.280 more supernova rings, the remnants of these blown up stars? 18:58.840 --> 19:00.780 That indicates only a few thousand years. 19:01.560 --> 19:05.060 Of course the Bible says God made everything 6,000 years ago and the 19:05.060 --> 19:06.600 textbooks say it's billions of years old. 19:06.640 --> 19:09.280 I think the textbooks have a problem because there should be a lot more 19:09.280 --> 19:10.160 supernova rings. 19:10.800 --> 19:12.360 Plus, obviously you have a problem. 19:12.840 --> 19:16.620 Stars being born should equal stars dying or else you're going to have a real 19:16.620 --> 19:17.300 serious problem. 19:17.860 --> 19:21.640 There are plenty of stars out there, but we've never seen one star forming. 19:22.760 --> 19:25.060 We see stars blow up every 25 or 30 years. 19:25.160 --> 19:27.680 We've never proven the formation of one new star. 19:28.460 --> 19:31.120 One atheist I would debate, he said, oh, Holman, there's this new star forming 19:31.120 --> 19:35.460 right now in Crab Nebula and some of the different clouds out there in space. 19:35.520 --> 19:36.460 You see stars forming. 19:36.800 --> 19:37.500 No you don't. 19:38.040 --> 19:39.360 You see spots getting brighter. 19:40.080 --> 19:44.040 You are assuming a star is forming, but actually all you're seeing is a spot 19:44.040 --> 19:44.580 getting brighter. 19:45.120 --> 19:48.560 It could be there's a dust cloud clearing and there was already a star behind it. 19:48.600 --> 19:50.320 Any fourth grader would know that. 19:50.860 --> 19:53.260 So nobody's ever proven the formation of one star. 19:54.120 --> 19:57.380 In Science Magazine in 1986, they said, the silent embarrassment of modern 19:57.380 --> 20:01.080 astrophysics is that we do not know how even a single one of these stars managed 20:01.080 --> 20:01.680 to form. 20:02.700 --> 20:03.920 The situation is no better now. 20:04.120 --> 20:07.320 Nobody can prove any star formed by natural processes. 20:07.880 --> 20:11.720 If dust tries to get together, as it increases in density, it increases 20:11.720 --> 20:15.580 the temperature, which increases the movement, and it drives it back away. 20:15.680 --> 20:16.980 It's called Boyle's gas laws. 20:17.300 --> 20:23.620 You cannot compress dust into solid matter without creating a real serious physical 20:23.620 --> 20:25.840 science problem of overcoming the gas laws. 20:25.960 --> 20:29.300 The pressure increases, the temperature increases, which drives them out again. 20:29.720 --> 20:30.440 It's not going to happen. 20:31.220 --> 20:34.180 One professor said, oh, Hovind, we figured if 20 stars explode near each 20:34.180 --> 20:37.440 other, they'll produce enough energy to squeeze the gas and make a new star. 20:38.280 --> 20:39.860 I said, well, sir, that's just brilliant. 20:40.460 --> 20:42.680 You know, you're saying if you lose 20, you can gain one. 20:43.680 --> 20:46.240 Man, you ought to run for Congress and help those guys borrow their way out of 20:46.240 --> 20:46.440 debt. 20:46.800 --> 20:47.820 That's a dumb idea. 20:48.740 --> 20:49.740 We've never seen it happen. 20:49.800 --> 20:52.400 It's purely theoretical that 20 stars could do that, but that is a losing 20:52.400 --> 20:53.460 proposition, not gaining. 20:53.540 --> 20:54.460 There are lots of stars. 20:54.840 --> 20:57.940 The Bible says God created the stars in Genesis 1.16. 20:58.220 --> 20:59.780 He created them to be lights on the earth. 21:00.100 --> 21:04.420 Psalm 147 says He counts the number of the stars and gives names to all of them. 21:05.300 --> 21:10.280 The Bible says He layeth the beams of His chambers in the waters, who maketh the 21:10.280 --> 21:12.340 clouds His cherry to walketh upon the wings of the wind. 21:12.640 --> 21:18.660 It is possible that Psalm 104 ties in with Psalm 148 that there is still water above 21:18.660 --> 21:19.540 the heavens. 21:20.460 --> 21:24.260 Nobody knows what's beyond the stars, if there's an end at all. 21:25.300 --> 21:28.520 But it could be that this verse and the verse in Revelation where the Lord sits on 21:28.520 --> 21:32.980 many waters is talking about the fact that there was a layer of water above the earth 21:32.980 --> 21:35.280 and there may be another layer of water beyond the stars. 21:35.860 --> 21:37.800 Don't know, just a theory, something to chew on. 21:37.920 --> 21:38.820 There's no way we can tell anyway. 21:38.820 --> 21:40.860 Okay, there's a lot of stars out there. 21:41.380 --> 21:45.280 It's been estimated that everybody on earth could own two trillion stars to 21:45.280 --> 21:45.740 yourself. 21:46.320 --> 21:46.920 That's a lot. 21:47.120 --> 21:48.200 Million, billion, trillion. 21:49.180 --> 21:50.640 The stars are really far away. 21:51.040 --> 21:52.560 Hubble telescope focused in on a dot. 21:52.640 --> 21:55.480 They thought they found a black spot in space about the size of a grain of sand 21:55.480 --> 21:56.340 held at arm's length. 21:56.960 --> 22:00.900 They looked at that spot for ten days and in that one spot there were so many stars 22:00.900 --> 22:02.840 they'd never seen before that they couldn't even count them. 22:03.600 --> 22:06.460 That's just one spot the size of a grain of sand. 22:06.640 --> 22:08.000 New stars just discovered. 22:09.260 --> 22:10.240 There's a lot of stars. 22:10.620 --> 22:14.900 Stephen Hawking, who hates Christians and creationists, said, and won't debate me by 22:14.900 --> 22:16.460 the way, Steve, I'll take you on any time. 22:17.560 --> 22:21.260 He said, stars are so far away they appear to us to be just pinpoints of light. 22:22.260 --> 22:25.360 He said, there's only one feature we can observe, that is the color of their light. 22:25.720 --> 22:28.540 So when you look at a star you cannot see the size or shape of the star, 22:28.620 --> 22:30.140 all you see is what color it is. 22:30.540 --> 22:34.440 We assume that stars are like the sun and the sun is like stars, but that is purely 22:34.440 --> 22:35.040 an assumption. 22:35.180 --> 22:36.000 We don't know that. 22:36.620 --> 22:38.760 Some people say, oh yeah, we can tell by the elements that it's burning. 22:38.920 --> 22:40.800 It gives a color characteristic, you know, the signature. 22:40.980 --> 22:41.580 You can tell the elements. 22:42.540 --> 22:45.580 Evolutionists never talk about this, but they are of course assuming that even 22:45.580 --> 22:49.080 the molecules evolved in other places just like they evolved on earth. 22:49.660 --> 22:52.920 They're assuming the same 92 elements we have here would be the same found 22:52.920 --> 22:53.820 throughout the universe. 22:54.780 --> 22:57.040 They've never talked about that, but you have a real serious problem if you 22:57.040 --> 23:00.220 just assume that the same molecular arrangement evolved because molecules 23:00.220 --> 23:03.000 would have to evolve too by your theory, which I think is a dumb idea. 23:03.300 --> 23:03.340 Okay. 23:04.260 --> 23:07.160 I taught high school trig for many years as one of the subjects I taught. 23:07.420 --> 23:10.080 If you want to find the distance to an object you can't possibly touch, 23:10.100 --> 23:13.940 like a star, you have to measure it with what's called parallax trigonometry. 23:14.360 --> 23:18.660 You have to know two sides and one angle or two angles and one side in order to 23:18.660 --> 23:22.600 calculate the distance to this unknown point or to this unknown distance to this 23:22.600 --> 23:25.280 point with simple sine cosine tangent. 23:25.760 --> 23:31.680 The problem is earth is only 8,000 miles in diameter, which is basically nothing 23:31.680 --> 23:32.640 compared to star distance. 23:32.920 --> 23:37.400 So to find the distance to a star you have to get your observers further apart to 23:37.400 --> 23:39.720 make a triangle that's a decent angle. 23:40.680 --> 23:45.100 Well they look at the star in January, then they look at the star in June and 23:45.100 --> 23:46.800 they get a much bigger base on their triangle. 23:46.940 --> 23:48.780 This is earth's orbit around the sun. 23:49.820 --> 23:54.240 Well it's 93 million miles to the sun, which is a long ways, but it takes light 8 23:54.240 --> 23:55.720 minutes to get here from the sun. 23:56.740 --> 24:00.160 It's called one astronomical unit, that is the distance from the sun to the 24:00.160 --> 24:01.660 earth is an AU, an astronomical unit. 24:02.220 --> 24:06.780 So we are 8 light minutes from the sun, which means the diameter of our orbit is 24:06.780 --> 24:08.460 16 light minutes. 24:09.000 --> 24:11.260 That would be the diameter of earth's orbit around the sun. 24:11.880 --> 24:15.460 This diagram here shows a little yellow dot on the far left, that would represent 24:15.460 --> 24:16.220 earth's orbit. 24:16.860 --> 24:18.040 16 light minutes. 24:19.420 --> 24:22.460 A year has 525,000 minutes in it. 24:23.780 --> 24:26.340 That's a real skinny triangle if you did it to scale. 24:26.740 --> 24:30.820 It's like having two surveyors with telescopes 16 inches apart looking at a 24:30.820 --> 24:34.540 dot 525,000 inches away, which is 8 and a third miles. 24:35.700 --> 24:39.000 You set that up and draw it out on a piece of graph paper, you find you got a real 24:39.000 --> 24:39.660 skinny triangle. 24:40.620 --> 24:44.340 It works out to be an angle of .017 degrees at the apex. 24:45.200 --> 24:47.300 I think you are going to have a hard time measuring something like that. 24:48.380 --> 24:51.900 If you want to measure 100 light years, by the way that was just to measure one 24:51.900 --> 24:52.260 light year. 24:52.940 --> 25:00.120 If you wanted to measure 100 light years, you are keeping your surveyors 16 inches 25:00.120 --> 25:00.440 apart. 25:01.140 --> 25:04.400 That's like having two guys on my roof here in Pensacola, Florida looking at a 25:04.400 --> 25:05.320 dot in Chicago. 25:07.520 --> 25:10.860 If the guys are 16 inches apart and they are focusing on a dot in Chicago, 25:11.480 --> 25:13.040 that's a real skinny triangle. 25:14.540 --> 25:17.740 Figuring 15 billion light years is clearly impossible. 25:18.720 --> 25:19.920 It just can't be done. 25:20.220 --> 25:23.800 And I don't think you can tell exactly where you were 6 months ago on opposite 25:23.800 --> 25:24.640 sides of earth's orbit. 25:24.760 --> 25:25.880 That would be a stretch also. 25:26.440 --> 25:29.980 Okay, this textbook says parallax trigonometry can be used to measure 25:29.980 --> 25:32.000 distances less than 100 light years. 25:34.260 --> 25:36.260 I agree, much less. 25:36.540 --> 25:39.660 I think you would have a hard time measuring 20 light years, but I'll give 25:39.660 --> 25:42.080 them 100, I'll give them 500 for the sake of the argument. 25:42.840 --> 25:44.720 The fact is you can't measure a billion. 25:45.860 --> 25:47.600 I'm not saying the stars aren't that far away. 25:47.720 --> 25:48.500 They probably are. 25:48.880 --> 25:51.280 I'm just pointing out we have no way of measuring it. 25:51.360 --> 25:52.480 We don't know how far away they are. 25:53.040 --> 25:57.460 If somebody tells you that star is 7.9 billion light years away, you say, 25:58.140 --> 25:59.160 how did you measure it? 25:59.640 --> 26:01.280 Was it a Stanley, a Lefkin, or a Craftsman? 26:01.340 --> 26:02.600 And who held the other end of that tape measure? 26:02.660 --> 26:03.540 Because I want to meet this guy. 26:04.140 --> 26:05.560 It just can't be done. 26:05.640 --> 26:08.040 So number one, we cannot measure the distance to the stars. 26:08.340 --> 26:10.080 Number two, we don't know what light is. 26:10.760 --> 26:11.440 Is it a wave? 26:11.500 --> 26:12.120 Is it a photon? 26:12.380 --> 26:13.020 Is it a particle? 26:13.300 --> 26:15.760 I mean it behaves sometimes like waves, sometimes like energy. 26:16.140 --> 26:17.660 Nobody knows for sure what light is. 26:17.940 --> 26:20.800 We know what it does and we use it all the time obviously, but nobody has ever 26:20.800 --> 26:22.300 defined what light is very clearly. 26:23.000 --> 26:27.780 So the entire principle or concept behind a black hole is the idea that light can be 26:27.780 --> 26:28.800 attracted by gravity. 26:30.040 --> 26:34.000 Well if light can be attracted by gravity, if black holes exist, which nobody has 26:34.000 --> 26:38.100 proven that either, but then the speed of light can't be a constant. 26:38.780 --> 26:42.280 At Harvard University in 99 they slowed light down to 38 miles an hour. 26:43.140 --> 26:47.140 The next year they slowed it down to one mile an hour in the year 2000. 26:47.860 --> 26:49.740 The next year they brought it to a dead stop. 26:50.680 --> 26:52.940 They took light and absolutely stopped it. 26:53.100 --> 26:55.740 This was done at Harvard, it was done at Smithsonian, and it was done at Cambridge. 26:55.860 --> 26:57.260 And by the way, that's how science works. 26:57.760 --> 27:01.020 An experiment should be demonstrable, repeatable, testable. 27:01.600 --> 27:03.220 Evolution is none of those. 27:03.740 --> 27:06.100 Nobody has ever demonstrated or tested or proven any of it. 27:06.480 --> 27:07.660 It's all in the mind. 27:07.760 --> 27:08.580 They think it happened. 27:08.720 --> 27:09.420 It's not science. 27:09.540 --> 27:14.340 Okay, at Princeton University in the year 2000 they speeded light up to 300 times 27:14.340 --> 27:15.080 the speed of light. 27:16.600 --> 27:19.700 Why would the speed of light be an unbreakable barrier? 27:20.980 --> 27:24.080 Barry Sutterfield, an Australian astronomer, did a lot of work on the speed 27:24.080 --> 27:24.700 of light question. 27:25.080 --> 27:27.000 He says the speed of light has decreased. 27:27.260 --> 27:30.780 He said in the last 300 years at least 164 measurements of the speed of light have 27:30.780 --> 27:32.540 been published, 16 different ways it was measured. 27:33.260 --> 27:36.360 He said the speed of light has apparently decreased so rapidly that experimental 27:36.360 --> 27:37.760 error cannot explain it. 27:38.460 --> 27:42.620 Here's a chart showing that the speed of light has declined in the last 150 years. 27:43.900 --> 27:48.500 About 1960, the chart seems to level off and everybody since about 1960 has gotten 27:48.500 --> 27:49.280 the same number. 27:49.800 --> 27:53.440 If you measure the speed of light today, you're probably going to get 186,282 point 27:53.440 --> 27:54.500 something miles per second. 27:54.880 --> 27:59.180 Okay, that could be because in the late 50s and early 60s they began using the 27:59.180 --> 28:01.360 atomic clock to measure the speed of light. 28:03.640 --> 28:09.480 And the atomic clock uses the wavelength of a cesium-133 atom, which means you're 28:09.480 --> 28:10.640 using light to measure light. 28:11.260 --> 28:12.220 You have a rubber ruler. 28:12.960 --> 28:14.500 Of course you're not going to see it if it's declining. 28:15.180 --> 28:19.000 It may be we're on the tail end of a logarithmic digression or it simply may be 28:19.000 --> 28:22.720 we're using a rubber ruler by using an atomic clock to measure it. 28:23.460 --> 28:26.140 Here's a couple of articles showing about how the speed of light was apparently 28:26.140 --> 28:28.180 exceeded by a factor of as much as 100. 28:28.440 --> 28:31.460 Clear back in 88 and 95 there were articles published about this. 28:31.680 --> 28:33.460 The speed of light is not a constant. 28:35.440 --> 28:39.560 The Radiophysical Research Institute in Russia, the cosmologist there, 28:39.700 --> 28:43.760 said the speed of light was 10 billion times faster at time zero. 28:44.600 --> 28:46.560 Astrophysics and Space Science Magazine 1987. 28:47.320 --> 28:51.120 According to the Big Bang theory the speed of light had to be much faster initially. 28:51.860 --> 28:56.100 Here's an article from 2001 Science News saying about the speed of light may have 28:56.100 --> 28:58.440 changed over history, the study says. 28:59.860 --> 29:02.280 Imperial College in London, the man wrote an article and said, a shocking 29:02.280 --> 29:05.940 possibility is that the speed of light might change in time during the life of 29:05.940 --> 29:06.400 the universe. 29:07.640 --> 29:11.840 At Rutgers News Service put an article from Sydney about a team from Australia 29:11.840 --> 29:15.200 that said the speed of light may not be a constant in August of 2002. 29:15.580 --> 29:17.900 It says the speed of light can change. 29:18.500 --> 29:20.880 The speed limit of the cosmos is being questioned. 29:22.440 --> 29:23.820 September 2002. 29:24.380 --> 29:27.200 So there's a book out called Faster Than the Speed of Light. 29:27.400 --> 29:30.040 And I'm sure this fellow who wrote this book would be persecuted for daring to 29:30.040 --> 29:31.340 suggest such heresy as this. 29:31.840 --> 29:36.520 Discover Magazine ran an article about was Einstein wrong about the speed of light? 29:37.400 --> 29:39.540 A recent article saying Einstein was wrong. 29:39.720 --> 29:41.620 The speed of light is not a constant. 29:42.080 --> 29:45.380 So I don't think we can prove what light is and I don't think we can prove lights 29:45.380 --> 29:46.560 always travel the same speed. 29:47.880 --> 29:48.340 Number 3. 29:49.400 --> 29:51.260 The creation was finished when God made it. 29:52.420 --> 29:55.000 It's interesting, Jesus made wine out of grapes that never existed. 29:55.740 --> 29:57.060 Turned water straight to wine. 29:57.260 --> 29:58.120 Where's the grape stage? 29:59.800 --> 30:04.040 He can make a full grown man out of the dirt and then make a woman out of his rib 30:04.040 --> 30:05.700 and make animals out of the dirt. 30:06.720 --> 30:08.200 He can make the earth out of nothing. 30:09.260 --> 30:12.700 Jesus made enough to feed 5,000 people out of a little boy's sack lunch. 30:13.340 --> 30:14.740 We're always trying to limit God. 30:14.780 --> 30:17.880 I get real worried about folks that try to put human limitations on God. 30:18.380 --> 30:21.500 God didn't make two babies and put them in the Garden of Eden and hand them a package 30:21.500 --> 30:23.660 of seeds and say, here plant these quick, you're going to need supper. 30:24.180 --> 30:27.180 He made a full grown man and a full grown woman in a full grown garden. 30:27.280 --> 30:28.220 That's the only way it's going to work. 30:29.160 --> 30:29.520 Number 4. 30:30.360 --> 30:31.740 A light year is a distance. 30:32.020 --> 30:34.480 It's not a time, it's a distance. 30:34.560 --> 30:37.320 It's the distance light can travel in a year at today's speed. 30:38.260 --> 30:42.180 A light year could be done in one second if you speeded the light up. 30:42.960 --> 30:43.800 It's simply a distance. 30:43.880 --> 30:45.100 It's like so many gazillion miles. 30:45.200 --> 30:47.760 Think of 6 trillion miles is a light year. 30:48.300 --> 30:49.300 Okay, number 5. 30:49.860 --> 30:53.260 Since the speed of light is not proven to be consistent, why would star distance 30:53.260 --> 30:54.800 have anything to do with age of the universe? 30:56.220 --> 30:57.400 Some people say, oh, wait a minute now. 30:57.760 --> 31:01.900 I know we can't measure the distance with triangulation, parallax, trigonometry. 31:02.000 --> 31:04.320 What about measuring with Cepheid variables or redshift? 31:05.080 --> 31:08.960 That's the other way they try to do it and also loaded with flaws in the theory 31:08.960 --> 31:09.160 there. 31:09.880 --> 31:14.440 The redshift is the idea that when light goes from a star, the red is shifted over. 31:14.500 --> 31:17.600 They look at the light through a spectroscope and you'll see black lines on 31:17.600 --> 31:20.800 there and the black lines are shifted toward the red end of the spectrum. 31:21.440 --> 31:23.520 You get the normal spectrum red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, 31:23.640 --> 31:23.860 violet. 31:24.180 --> 31:28.160 But the black lines are shifted red and they'll say, wow, this is proof the star 31:28.160 --> 31:28.860 is receding. 31:29.300 --> 31:29.620 It's running. 31:29.720 --> 31:30.580 It's moving away from us. 31:31.240 --> 31:31.880 That could be. 31:31.960 --> 31:32.460 I don't know. 31:33.060 --> 31:34.720 But there might be other ways to answer this. 31:35.080 --> 31:36.840 This is called the Doppler effect. 31:37.140 --> 31:40.500 If a train is coming toward you, it squeezes the sound waves in as the 31:40.500 --> 31:43.160 train makes noise and you hear it. 31:44.400 --> 31:46.120 It drops pitch as it goes past you. 31:46.140 --> 31:47.120 It's called the Doppler effect. 31:47.340 --> 31:50.460 If you're going past the sound source or the sound source is going past you, 31:50.520 --> 31:51.680 either way, it works the same. 31:52.360 --> 31:56.140 Sound is called compressed coming in and refracted or stretched going out. 31:57.060 --> 32:00.840 Well, they thought possibly if the star is coming in, it would squeeze the light 32:00.840 --> 32:04.660 waves, whatever light waves are, and make a blue shift. 32:04.780 --> 32:06.760 If the star is leaving, it would make a red shift. 32:07.580 --> 32:10.800 And so when the red shift was discovered years ago, they looked around the heavens 32:10.800 --> 32:12.780 and found most of the stars are giving a red shift. 32:14.260 --> 32:16.260 And they said, wow, this proves they're leaving. 32:16.840 --> 32:17.480 No, it doesn't. 32:17.520 --> 32:18.200 But that was the assumption. 32:18.920 --> 32:22.100 And then they said, if all the stars are moving away, that proves there was a Big 32:22.100 --> 32:22.380 Bang. 32:23.240 --> 32:26.080 That was the evidence for the Big Bang theory, the red shift. 32:26.820 --> 32:29.220 Talk about a lack of logic, but that's what they said. 32:29.400 --> 32:29.540 Okay. 32:30.560 --> 32:33.860 This fellow says, there was an early sign that red shifts reliably indicate the 32:33.860 --> 32:34.800 distance of galaxies. 32:35.700 --> 32:39.180 For quasars, however, the diagram shows a wide scatter and apparent brightness at 32:39.180 --> 32:40.200 every red shift. 32:40.920 --> 32:44.140 He said, in fact, there is little correlation of brightness to red shift at 32:44.140 --> 32:44.400 all. 32:44.960 --> 32:48.480 Either quasars come in an extremely wide range of intrinsic luminosities, 32:48.620 --> 32:52.440 as most people believe, or the red shifts do not indicate distance. 32:52.600 --> 32:54.340 Sky and Telescope, December 1994. 32:56.620 --> 33:00.480 The same magazine said, thus for the only conclusion that can be drawn is that at 33:00.480 --> 33:05.440 least some quasars are relatively nearby and a large fraction of their red shift is 33:05.440 --> 33:07.740 due to something other than expansion of the universe. 33:08.640 --> 33:11.560 So if somebody tells you we know the distance to stars because of red shifts, 33:11.640 --> 33:13.700 say, I'm sorry, that is simply not correct. 33:13.780 --> 33:15.600 We don't know the distance because of red shift. 33:15.840 --> 33:17.900 Get the book, The Evolution Cruncher, from our ministry. 33:18.000 --> 33:19.900 It's $5 for a 900-page book. 33:19.960 --> 33:22.960 Excellent book, loaded with stuff on creation and evolution. 33:23.360 --> 33:26.360 He's got a whole section about the Doppler effect and the expanding universe. 33:29.240 --> 33:33.060 Science News 95 said, another set of observations indicates that the universe 33:33.060 --> 33:36.260 appears to be 8.4 to 10.6 billion years old. 33:36.920 --> 33:40.560 The new work relied on the Hubble Space Telescope to obtain distance to faraway 33:40.560 --> 33:40.980 galaxies. 33:41.820 --> 33:46.200 A team led by Tanver at the University of England used a two-step method to estimate 33:46.200 --> 33:47.120 the Hubble constant. 33:47.820 --> 33:49.000 I always get a kick out of that. 33:49.260 --> 33:51.620 Here they've got an equation which involves a number that you're going to 33:51.620 --> 33:54.460 multiply, like an algebraic equation, and they can change that number. 33:55.200 --> 33:56.960 They call it a constant, but they change it all the time. 33:57.640 --> 33:58.760 I taught algebra for years. 33:58.840 --> 34:02.080 I'm telling you, you change one letter in an equation or one value in an equation, 34:02.180 --> 34:03.220 you change the outcome. 34:03.520 --> 34:05.840 That's why they're always getting wild numbers for the age of the universe, 34:05.980 --> 34:07.860 because the Hubble constant is not a constant at all. 34:08.020 --> 34:08.580 Okay, let's go on here. 34:09.260 --> 34:13.100 He said, first they observed a type of standard candle, stars known as Cepheid 34:13.100 --> 34:15.980 variables, to find the distance to the spiral galaxy M96. 34:16.840 --> 34:19.420 He said, you have to be very careful about drawing conclusions because of the Hubble 34:19.420 --> 34:22.400 constant, because measurements have huge systematic errors. 34:24.140 --> 34:28.120 Astronomers believed the Veil, one of the best-studied supernova 34:28.120 --> 34:32.540 remnants, was 2,500 light-years away and 18,000 years old. 34:32.920 --> 34:33.820 They were quite wrong. 34:33.880 --> 34:37.300 In fact, the Veil is only 1,500 light-years away and 5,000 years old, 34:37.420 --> 34:39.680 from Discover Magazine, January of 2001. 34:40.800 --> 34:44.180 An article about Rip Van Winkle showing stars are much younger than they thought. 34:47.060 --> 34:50.520 The article University Around Us at Cambridge University said, even the 34:50.520 --> 34:53.960 nearest Cepheids are so remote, it's difficult to determine their absolute 34:53.960 --> 34:56.140 distance with any accuracy, any great accuracy. 34:57.060 --> 35:00.320 All large distances in astronomical literature are subject to an error of 35:00.320 --> 35:02.240 perhaps 10% from this cause alone. 35:03.180 --> 35:06.500 He said, we know that faintness, how bright the star is, arises from two 35:06.500 --> 35:10.720 causes, distance and absorbing matter in space, and it's generally not possible to 35:10.720 --> 35:11.840 apportion it between the two. 35:12.780 --> 35:16.200 Get the book The Evolution Cruncher and find out what happened to Halton Harp, 35:16.220 --> 35:18.000 who dared to question the redshift theory. 35:18.740 --> 35:19.960 Good way to lose your job. 35:20.300 --> 35:23.440 There's discrimination against those because they're looking for anything to 35:23.440 --> 35:25.800 hang on to this dumb Big Bang Theory is the problem. 35:25.880 --> 35:26.900 Big Bang Theory is a dud. 35:27.280 --> 35:29.940 Fred Hoyle said that 30 years ago, or 20 years ago. 35:30.660 --> 35:33.600 Okay, Isaiah 40 tells us the Lord sits on the circle of the earth and it says He 35:33.600 --> 35:35.520 stretched out the heavens like a curtain. 35:36.080 --> 35:38.560 Isaiah 42 talks about the stretching of the heavens. 35:38.740 --> 35:40.860 Isaiah 45 says He stretched out the heavens. 35:40.980 --> 35:43.060 Jeremiah 10 says He stretched out the heavens. 35:44.340 --> 35:46.620 There's several theories of what's causing the redshift. 35:46.980 --> 35:49.180 One theory is the stretching from the creation. 35:50.160 --> 35:53.100 This is a normal thing you would expect because He stretched out the heavens like 35:53.100 --> 35:54.700 a curtain, just like the Bible told us. 35:54.980 --> 35:56.820 Maybe that's the only reason we have a redshift. 35:57.340 --> 36:00.800 Second theory is the light's getting tired traveling great distance. 36:01.580 --> 36:05.420 Third theory is as it travels through whatever space is made up, maybe space is 36:05.420 --> 36:08.340 nothing, maybe space is something, we don't know what space is, but as the 36:08.340 --> 36:11.340 light travels, that may automatically be a phenomenon that causes the redshift. 36:11.960 --> 36:13.080 It could be the Doppler Effect. 36:13.200 --> 36:14.280 The star could be moving away. 36:14.380 --> 36:15.900 I don't know and nobody knows. 36:16.140 --> 36:16.200 Okay? 36:16.760 --> 36:19.920 It could be the light is being speeded up or slowed down as it goes past a dense 36:19.920 --> 36:21.240 gravitational mass in space. 36:21.300 --> 36:22.880 We simply don't know what's causing the redshift. 36:23.440 --> 36:26.360 Next question, I get asked this question quite frequently actually, is the sun 36:26.360 --> 36:26.900 shrinking? 36:27.920 --> 36:29.220 The sun is obviously burning. 36:29.340 --> 36:31.020 You can step outside and look at it in the daytime. 36:31.460 --> 36:35.200 The sun is losing about 5 million tons of mass every second. 36:35.720 --> 36:38.820 The sun is obviously burning and losing an enormous amount of fuel. 36:39.520 --> 36:44.780 So, if you go backwards in time and add 5 million tons per second to the sun, 36:44.860 --> 36:46.520 you start to create a problem at some point. 36:46.600 --> 36:49.120 I don't know what the number is and I wouldn't give a number because as soon as 36:49.120 --> 36:51.780 I give a number and say x number a million years ago this would have happened, 36:52.140 --> 36:55.160 the atheist or the skeptic will pick on the number and miss the concept. 36:56.200 --> 36:57.660 The fact is the sun is burning. 36:58.360 --> 37:02.140 If the sun were larger it would begin to suck Mercury and Venus in first of all. 37:02.240 --> 37:04.460 Mercury first and then Venus and then slowly affect Earth. 37:05.180 --> 37:11.360 The Bulletin of American Astronomical Society in 1979 said since 1836 more than 37:11.360 --> 37:16.840 100 direct observers, different observers at the Royal Greenwich Observatory and the 37:16.840 --> 37:17.100 U.S. 37:17.180 --> 37:20.540 Naval Observatory have made direct visual measurements that suggest the sun's 37:20.540 --> 37:24.340 diameter is shrinking at the rate of about a tenth of a percent each century, 37:25.620 --> 37:29.500 which works out to be 5 feet per hour. 37:30.660 --> 37:32.580 Now, whether the number is right, I don't know. 37:32.640 --> 37:36.200 But the fact is it's pretty obvious the sun is burning and the sun, for 100 years 37:36.200 --> 37:38.860 of measurements, they said it's shrinking about 5 feet an hour. 37:39.460 --> 37:43.460 Of course now the sun is gigantic, about 880,000 miles in diameter, 37:43.640 --> 37:44.420 so it's not a problem. 37:49.220 --> 37:49.800 We're not sure. 37:49.800 --> 37:54.220 Indirect techniques also confirm the sun is shrinking, although these inferred 37:54.220 --> 37:56.640 collapse are only about one-seventh as much. 37:57.520 --> 38:01.900 By that thinking the sun would have been touching the Earth 158 million years ago. 38:02.000 --> 38:03.300 And again, that's not my number. 38:03.400 --> 38:06.760 Somebody else came up with that as a possible calculation that the sun would 38:06.760 --> 38:07.620 have been touching the Earth. 38:08.120 --> 38:09.440 The fact is the sun is shrinking. 38:10.020 --> 38:13.980 This chart shows the measurements of not only the polar diameter but the equatorial 38:13.980 --> 38:14.240 diameter. 38:14.360 --> 38:17.280 The sun has north and south pole like the Earth does. 38:17.980 --> 38:21.680 Both measurements are diminishing in the last 160 years. 38:22.880 --> 38:24.620 It's been observed the sun is shrinking. 38:25.000 --> 38:26.140 Now the sun oscillates. 38:26.260 --> 38:29.500 It swells and shrinks and swells and shrinks, but the overall trend is quite 38:29.500 --> 38:30.900 obviously toward shrinking. 38:31.140 --> 38:32.220 The sun is burning. 38:32.980 --> 38:34.180 That creates a problem. 38:34.440 --> 38:39.140 If you go backwards in time, the sun would be bigger and more massive, which is going 38:39.140 --> 38:40.620 to upset the gravitational pull. 38:41.340 --> 38:45.220 So I don't think it's logical to say the Earth's been going around the sun for 38:45.220 --> 38:49.720 billions of years while the sun is constantly losing this mass and losing its 38:49.720 --> 38:50.600 gravitational pull. 38:51.200 --> 38:52.760 To me, that invokes the miracle. 38:53.400 --> 38:56.860 It's much simpler to say the system is not billions of years old like they're telling 38:56.860 --> 38:57.040 us. 38:57.160 --> 39:00.600 God created everything about 6,000 years ago exactly like the Bible says. 39:01.800 --> 39:03.360 Okay, what about carbon dating? 39:04.180 --> 39:07.000 Every seminar I do somebody will say, wait a minute, carbon dating proves the 39:07.000 --> 39:08.320 Earth is millions of years old. 39:08.500 --> 39:09.500 Oh no, it doesn't. 39:10.260 --> 39:13.280 The fossils are actually dated by their position in the geologic column. 39:13.280 --> 39:14.900 We cover that in seminar part four. 39:15.560 --> 39:17.800 And the geologic column does not exist any place in the world. 39:18.560 --> 39:21.820 Radiometric dating would not even be possible if the geologic column had not 39:21.820 --> 39:22.820 been erected first. 39:23.460 --> 39:26.120 An article in American Journal of Science Magazine talked about this. 39:26.820 --> 39:30.180 Ever since William Smith at the beginning of the 19th century, fossils have been and 39:30.180 --> 39:34.400 still are the best and most accurate method of dating and correlating the rocks 39:34.400 --> 39:35.220 in which they occur. 39:36.000 --> 39:39.520 Apart from very modern examples, which really are archaeology, this guy 39:39.520 --> 39:43.340 said I can think of no cases of radioactive decay being used to date 39:43.340 --> 39:43.820 fossils. 39:44.280 --> 39:48.720 So they don't date fossils by carbon dating or potassium-argon dating. 39:48.900 --> 39:49.900 This is a mammoth tooth. 39:50.480 --> 39:52.400 They date them by the geologic column. 39:53.020 --> 39:56.560 They pick a spot and say, wow, that era was so many thousand years ago 39:56.560 --> 39:58.220 and so this must be that old. 39:58.920 --> 40:00.960 Fossils are not dated by carbon dating. 40:01.820 --> 40:03.180 Let me explain how carbon dating works. 40:03.860 --> 40:05.980 The Earth's atmosphere is about a hundred miles thick. 40:06.300 --> 40:08.000 On this globe it doesn't even show up. 40:08.120 --> 40:10.060 I mean it's the thickness of the paint basically. 40:11.020 --> 40:12.140 A hundred miles is not much. 40:12.520 --> 40:14.480 The space shuttle whizzes around just above the atmosphere. 40:14.600 --> 40:16.800 It still cuts down on drag and they can get no friction up there. 40:17.620 --> 40:18.900 Still get lousy gas mileage though. 40:19.360 --> 40:23.160 The air a hundred miles thick is mostly nitrogen. 40:24.340 --> 40:31.260 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, .06% carbon dioxide and that's what plants breathe, 40:31.380 --> 40:31.780 CO2. 40:32.160 --> 40:33.900 Some people say .09 or .03. 40:34.060 --> 40:34.320 I don't know. 40:34.400 --> 40:35.100 It varies I'm sure. 40:35.640 --> 40:36.200 Location is location. 40:36.640 --> 40:37.900 But there's not a lot of CO2 in the air. 40:38.520 --> 40:42.660 If you increase CO2, plants grow faster, which is a frustration for the 40:42.660 --> 40:45.000 environmentalist wackos when they burn forests, you know. 40:45.640 --> 40:48.380 All the CO2 is released and the trees next door grow faster. 40:49.000 --> 40:52.360 So it doesn't create an environmental crisis like they want you to believe. 40:53.600 --> 40:57.620 There's extremely small quantities of radioactive carbon-14. 40:59.300 --> 41:04.000 The way this works, radiation from the sun strikes the atmosphere, super high-speed 41:04.000 --> 41:08.900 energy comes down, bangs into the nitrogen and changes it to carbon-14. 41:09.360 --> 41:11.140 Just a quick, simple chemistry lesson here. 41:11.620 --> 41:14.280 Carbon and nitrogen are right next to each other on the periodic table. 41:15.340 --> 41:16.660 Nitrogen is number 14. 41:17.020 --> 41:18.060 Carbon is number 12. 41:18.980 --> 41:22.980 But if the nitrogen gets blasted by radiation, it turns into carbon-14. 41:23.920 --> 41:25.560 Normal carbon is called carbon-12. 41:25.760 --> 41:28.680 Here we have some what's called radioactive carbon, carbon-14. 41:28.880 --> 41:33.720 It's very rare and it doesn't stay stable because it's always breaking apart. 41:34.340 --> 41:36.600 You can hear it with a Geiger counter, you know, in the movies they've got the 41:36.600 --> 41:39.080 Geiger counter getting by the uranium and going click, click, click, click. 41:39.480 --> 41:40.820 Well, the same thing with carbon-14. 41:40.960 --> 41:41.800 It breaks apart. 41:41.980 --> 41:42.860 It's falling apart. 41:43.320 --> 41:46.440 And it's turning back into nitrogen and disappearing, which is a gas that 41:46.440 --> 41:47.260 disappears into the air. 41:49.340 --> 41:51.900 Carbon-14 is produced in the atmosphere by the sun. 41:52.220 --> 41:56.860 It breaks down at the rate of about half of it will break down every 5,730 years. 41:56.860 --> 41:58.320 This is called the half-life. 41:58.960 --> 42:04.800 So if I gave you a pile of carbon-14 and you waited 5,730 years, half of it would 42:04.800 --> 42:06.800 turn back to nitrogen and you'd end up with half a pile. 42:07.800 --> 42:11.980 If you wait another 5,700 years, half of that is going to turn to nitrogen. 42:12.320 --> 42:13.420 You end up with a fourth of a pile. 42:13.960 --> 42:15.220 In theory, it never goes to zero. 42:15.320 --> 42:17.640 It goes from half to fourth to eighth to sixteenth, etc. 42:17.760 --> 42:23.100 But plants are always breathing in carbon-14 in the photosynthesis process. 42:23.200 --> 42:23.980 They're breathing in carbon. 42:24.080 --> 42:25.000 Some of it's carbon-14. 42:25.180 --> 42:26.580 Most of it's normal carbon-12. 42:27.940 --> 42:30.560 Animals eat the plants and make it part of their body. 42:31.360 --> 42:33.960 Probably during your lifetime, you've either eaten plants or you've eaten 42:33.960 --> 42:35.040 animals that have eaten plants. 42:35.160 --> 42:36.560 That's about all there is to eat out there. 42:37.220 --> 42:41.580 And so you're absorbing radioactive carbon into you, just like I am into me, 42:41.840 --> 42:43.380 because we're getting it through the food chain. 42:43.500 --> 42:45.320 The plants got it from the air. 42:45.420 --> 42:46.460 The air got it from the sun. 42:47.300 --> 42:48.880 This carbon-14 got into the plants. 42:49.340 --> 42:52.140 Then it got into you or into the animals and then into you. 42:52.200 --> 42:54.600 But either way, we all contain some radioactive carbon. 42:55.140 --> 42:57.820 When the plant or animal dies, it's not going to get any more, 42:57.960 --> 42:58.240 obviously. 42:58.940 --> 43:01.540 So, several assumptions are involved in carbon dating. 43:01.640 --> 43:06.160 First of all, they assume that the amount of C-14 in the atmosphere, the ratio, 43:06.360 --> 43:09.160 which is a very small number, is the same found in the plants and animals. 43:09.640 --> 43:15.060 For instance, the atmosphere contains .0000765% radioactive carbon-14. 43:16.040 --> 43:17.780 It is assumed that I have the same. 43:18.580 --> 43:23.000 I've never been tested for C-14 and I've never met anybody who has but I would say 43:23.000 --> 43:25.580 that's a reasonable assumption, but it is an assumption. 43:25.840 --> 43:25.880 Okay. 43:26.720 --> 43:29.760 When the plant or animal dies, it doesn't get any more C-14, so whatever 43:29.760 --> 43:31.160 it had begins to decay. 43:31.340 --> 43:33.740 It was decaying while it was alive, but you never noticed it because it's 43:33.740 --> 43:35.720 being replenished, so the balance would stay. 43:36.360 --> 43:38.780 But as soon as it dies, it begins to go out of balance. 43:39.640 --> 43:44.620 So basically, carbon dating is measuring the amount of carbon in the object with 43:44.620 --> 43:47.840 the amount of carbon in the atmosphere and getting a balance. 43:48.820 --> 43:54.100 If the atmosphere is .0000765% and the object you're dating is only half as much, 43:54.560 --> 43:56.660 they would assume it's been dead for one half-life. 43:57.280 --> 44:00.420 If it's only one-fourth as much, it's been dead for two half-lives. 44:01.260 --> 44:02.820 Two times 5,730. 44:03.480 --> 44:05.760 And then it goes to a fourth, to an eighth, to a sixteenth. 44:06.860 --> 44:10.380 So they're comparing the amount in the object with the amount in the atmosphere. 44:10.600 --> 44:12.120 This is how carbon dating works. 44:12.120 --> 44:12.940 Sounds good. 44:13.140 --> 44:14.060 Certainly sounds scientific. 44:14.400 --> 44:17.320 But it's based on some serious assumptions that mess up everything. 44:17.620 --> 44:18.240 It doesn't work. 44:19.040 --> 44:22.920 If I told you to fill a barrel with water, but I have drilled holes in the barrel, 44:23.500 --> 44:26.380 while you're putting water in, it begins to leak out. 44:27.300 --> 44:31.240 So you have a process of filling and a process of leaking at the same time. 44:32.140 --> 44:34.920 You have adding and subtracting going on simultaneously. 44:35.660 --> 44:38.640 At some point, you're going to reach a stage called equilibrium. 44:39.500 --> 44:43.340 You'll never fill the barrel past that point, unless you speed up the input or 44:43.340 --> 44:44.720 decrease the outgo, one or the other. 44:45.400 --> 44:49.700 Well, Earth's atmosphere is constantly taking in carbon-14 from the sun, 44:50.100 --> 44:52.060 and it's constantly losing it to decay. 44:52.580 --> 44:53.760 So you have the same thing as the barrel. 44:54.580 --> 44:57.740 The question would be, how long would it take the Earth's atmosphere to reach 44:57.740 --> 44:58.160 equilibrium? 44:59.060 --> 45:02.780 Well, when carbon dating was first discovered, or invented in the early 1950s 45:02.780 --> 45:06.840 or late 1940s, actually, Willard Libby did this, University of Chicago, he said, 45:06.900 --> 45:08.980 you know, I wonder how long it would take the Earth's atmosphere to reach 45:08.980 --> 45:11.020 equilibrium, because he knew about the equilibrium problem. 45:11.920 --> 45:14.740 They said, after doing some studies, it would take about 30,000 years. 45:15.440 --> 45:19.240 Basically, if you made a brand new planet Earth, poof, create one, cover it with 45:19.240 --> 45:24.020 air, start it spinning around itself and spinning around the sun, the sun is going 45:24.020 --> 45:26.740 to strike the oxygen, strike the atmosphere and produce carbon-14, 45:26.860 --> 45:27.860 and it's going to start decaying. 45:28.260 --> 45:32.380 And they said, within 30,000 years, the atmosphere would be equalized. 45:32.420 --> 45:34.080 You'd reach this point called equilibrium. 45:35.080 --> 45:38.160 You're never going to get more C-14, and you shouldn't get any less, 45:38.200 --> 45:39.600 unless something changes in the system. 45:40.500 --> 45:41.360 Well, sounds good. 45:41.780 --> 45:44.000 I don't know if the number is right, but the concept is. 45:44.680 --> 45:47.560 Within 30,000 years, the Earth's atmosphere would reach equilibrium. 45:48.420 --> 45:51.120 The problem is, we still haven't reached equilibrium. 45:52.580 --> 45:55.260 There's more C-14 now than there was 20 years ago. 45:56.420 --> 46:02.180 Actually, radiocarbon is forming 28 to 37 percent faster than its decay. 46:04.600 --> 46:07.640 So, if we still haven't reached equilibrium, then the Earth is less than 46:07.640 --> 46:11.820 30,000 years old, which is what the Christians have been saying all along. 46:13.200 --> 46:16.160 A friend of mine has a website, archey.org, you can get information there 46:16.160 --> 46:18.360 about Earth's atmosphere has still not reached equilibrium. 46:19.060 --> 46:21.280 There's been a lot of people doing research on this, and it's just we're not 46:21.280 --> 46:21.640 there yet. 46:22.020 --> 46:25.160 This chart indicates how carbon-14 is supposed to work, in theory. 46:25.980 --> 46:30.640 An object that is still alive should be in balance with the atmosphere, which would 46:30.640 --> 46:35.340 give you 16, I'm going to simplify this a little bit, give you 16 clicks per minute 46:35.340 --> 46:37.360 per gram on your Geiger counter. 46:38.340 --> 46:41.020 If you're listening to a, you know, dating a, testing a sample, it'll go click 46:41.020 --> 46:43.880 every four seconds, you know, click, click. 46:44.480 --> 46:48.040 If it's only giving you eight clicks per minute, then you're getting, you're 46:48.040 --> 46:49.800 assuming it's 5,700 years old. 46:49.840 --> 46:51.360 It's been through one half-life. 46:51.860 --> 46:54.980 If you're only getting four clicks per minute, it's been through two half-lives. 46:55.240 --> 46:57.580 If you're getting two clicks per minute, it's been through three half-lives, 46:57.660 --> 46:58.720 it's 11,000 years old. 46:58.940 --> 47:00.280 This is how carbon dating is done. 47:00.860 --> 47:04.100 If you test a sample and you find out you're getting, you know, two and a half 47:04.100 --> 47:08.040 clicks per minute or 2.9 or something like that, you look at the chart and read over 47:08.040 --> 47:11.240 and find the age by the simple calibration curve, they call it. 47:11.560 --> 47:13.060 Sounds good, doesn't work. 47:13.960 --> 47:18.220 If you walked into a room and found a candle burning on a table, and I asked you 47:18.220 --> 47:20.180 the very simple question, when was it lit? 47:21.620 --> 47:23.540 You say, I don't know, it was burning when I got here. 47:24.360 --> 47:27.900 Okay, let's do what's called empirical science, things we can test and 47:27.900 --> 47:29.640 demonstrate and weigh and prove, okay? 47:29.820 --> 47:30.920 We're going to measure the candle. 47:31.660 --> 47:33.100 We measure the height of the candle. 47:33.400 --> 47:35.100 We find out the candle is seven inches tall. 47:36.240 --> 47:37.740 Okay, when was it lit? 47:39.580 --> 47:40.340 You say, I don't know. 47:40.700 --> 47:41.700 Okay, let's do some more science. 47:41.920 --> 47:43.520 Let's measure how fast it burns. 47:44.240 --> 47:47.460 Suppose we get an Olympic stopwatch and we measure this thing very carefully and find 47:47.460 --> 47:49.760 out the candle is burning one inch every hour. 47:50.660 --> 47:53.820 Now we've got two hard science empirical facts. 47:53.920 --> 47:55.400 The candle is seven inches tall. 47:55.700 --> 47:57.160 It is burning an inch an hour. 47:58.180 --> 47:59.060 When was it lit? 48:00.940 --> 48:03.500 You still can't tell me unless you make some assumptions. 48:04.340 --> 48:05.220 How tall was it? 48:06.040 --> 48:07.720 And has it always burned at the same rate? 48:08.320 --> 48:10.140 Neither of those assumptions can be proven. 48:10.660 --> 48:12.340 They are purely assumptions, okay? 48:12.940 --> 48:17.320 If you find a fossil in the dirt, all you know is it died. 48:18.620 --> 48:19.920 You don't even know where it died. 48:19.980 --> 48:20.920 You just know where it ended up buried. 48:21.000 --> 48:21.320 That's all. 48:21.920 --> 48:26.820 Now the amount of carbon-14 could be measured very precisely and the rate of 48:26.820 --> 48:28.540 decay could be determined. 48:29.520 --> 48:30.400 But when did it live? 48:30.640 --> 48:32.640 I have no idea and nobody does. 48:33.060 --> 48:36.860 Because you'd have to know how much was in it when it was alive, which that would 48:36.860 --> 48:38.220 depend on the assumption. 48:38.700 --> 48:41.120 The aetheric atmosphere has reached equilibrium and we haven't. 48:41.920 --> 48:44.040 And you'd have to know that it's always decayed at the same rate. 48:44.820 --> 48:48.220 Now if the Bible is right and the earth had a canopy of water overhead like the 48:48.220 --> 48:53.400 Bible, I think, clearly teaches in 2 Peter 3 and in Genesis 1, 6 and 7, this canopy 48:53.400 --> 48:57.320 of water would filter out quite a bit of radiation and they probably had a lot less 48:57.320 --> 49:00.320 carbon-14 in the original creation than we do today. 49:01.200 --> 49:04.620 So if you dig up a fossil from an animal that drowned in the flood, and I don't 49:04.620 --> 49:06.860 know if any of these are or not, but if you find a fossil and say, 49:07.060 --> 49:10.880 wow, I believe this one, this ammonite may have drowned in the flood. 49:11.360 --> 49:11.960 It probably did. 49:13.980 --> 49:15.900 And we want to find out if it's got carbon. 49:15.960 --> 49:16.540 It probably doesn't. 49:16.580 --> 49:20.460 It's been totally replaced by minerals, but let's assume it has organic material. 49:20.900 --> 49:21.880 And so we carbon date it. 49:22.560 --> 49:26.460 They would assume that it lived in an atmosphere just like we have today. 49:27.660 --> 49:28.560 Faulty assumption. 49:28.980 --> 49:29.820 Not a good idea. 49:31.100 --> 49:33.440 There's some examples of how carbon dating doesn't work. 49:33.500 --> 49:34.640 We'll go in chronological order here. 49:34.860 --> 49:39.100 Back in 1949, an article came out in Natural History magazine that said the 49:39.100 --> 49:44.120 lower leg of a mammoth dated 15,000 years old, but the skin dated 21,000 years old. 49:44.360 --> 49:46.040 It didn't work in 1949. 49:48.060 --> 49:52.900 1963, a living mollusc shell carbon dated at 2,300 years old. 49:53.580 --> 49:56.680 Well, here we are 14 years later, carbon dating is still not working. 49:59.140 --> 50:04.360 1970, this article came out and they said if a carbon date supports our theories, 50:04.460 --> 50:05.420 we put it in the main text. 50:05.960 --> 50:08.160 If it's not entirely contradicting, we put it in a footnote. 50:08.480 --> 50:10.320 If it's completely out of date, we just drop it. 50:12.660 --> 50:16.920 1971, a freshly killed seal carbon dated at 1,300 years old. 50:17.060 --> 50:18.300 Still not working folks. 50:20.300 --> 50:23.520 1975, a baby mammoth was found frozen. 50:24.300 --> 50:28.060 Part of it dated 40,000 years old, another part was 26,000 years old, 50:28.080 --> 50:30.380 and the wood next to it is 9,000 years old. 50:30.840 --> 50:32.440 Still not working in 1975. 50:33.480 --> 50:35.960 1981, they tried it again. 50:36.620 --> 50:40.160 This guy said no matter how useful it is, the radiocarbon method is still not 50:40.160 --> 50:42.580 capable of yielding accurate and reliable results. 50:42.960 --> 50:45.920 There are gross discrepancies, the chronology is uneven and relative, 50:46.080 --> 50:48.460 and the accepted dates are actually selected dates. 50:49.200 --> 50:52.020 This whole blessed thing is nothing but 13th century alchemy. 50:52.380 --> 50:54.180 It all depends upon which funny paper you read. 50:54.920 --> 50:55.700 Still not working. 50:56.280 --> 51:01.520 1984, shells from living snails were carbon dated at 27,000 years old. 51:01.860 --> 51:02.840 Still not working. 51:03.640 --> 51:07.820 1985, they took 11 human skeletons, the earliest known human remains in the 51:07.820 --> 51:11.340 western hemisphere, and they were carbon dated or dated by accelerator mass 51:11.340 --> 51:15.100 spectrometer, all 11 dated 5,000 radiocarbon years or less. 51:17.560 --> 51:20.060 Here these things are supposed to be a quarter million years old or something. 51:20.140 --> 51:21.300 It's not working in 1985. 51:22.320 --> 51:28.400 1992, two Colorado Creek mammoths side by side, buried frozen mammoths, were dated. 51:28.540 --> 51:31.880 One was 22,000 years old, the other is 16,000 years old. 51:32.440 --> 51:33.640 Still not working in 1992. 51:34.720 --> 51:42.220 In 1996, at Berkeley University, they've got the geochronology center, 51:42.480 --> 51:46.060 Carl Swisher used the most advanced techniques to date human fossils. 51:46.860 --> 51:50.560 This article said last spring he was re-evaluating Homo erectus skulls found in 51:50.560 --> 51:54.200 Java by testing the sediment found with them. 51:54.580 --> 51:57.960 A hominid species assumed to be an ancestor of Homo sapien, erectus was 51:57.960 --> 52:00.400 thought to have vanished a quarter million years ago. 52:01.060 --> 52:04.640 Even though he used two different dating methods, Swisher kept making the same 52:04.640 --> 52:05.400 startling find. 52:05.720 --> 52:10.040 The bones were 53,000 at most and possibly no more than 27,000. 52:11.460 --> 52:14.700 Well, I would like to point out, your honor, that is a 96% error. 52:15.540 --> 52:18.320 So it's not working in 1996 either. 52:20.960 --> 52:23.680 It's not logical to say carbon dating works. 52:23.720 --> 52:23.780 It's not working in 1996. 52:24.700 --> 52:29.240 One part of a mammoth dated 29,000 years old, another part was 44,000 years old. 52:30.020 --> 52:33.020 This article said in the last two years an absolute date has been obtained for the 52:33.020 --> 52:33.660 Gandong beds. 52:34.080 --> 52:38.840 It has the very interesting value of 300,000 years, plus or minus 300,000 52:38.840 --> 52:39.180 years. 52:41.800 --> 52:43.300 So it doesn't work. 52:43.840 --> 52:47.320 We have in our library the geological survey professional paper 862. 52:47.500 --> 52:50.480 Some skeptics on the web have argued that I didn't understand what the paper was 52:50.480 --> 52:50.700 saying. 52:50.800 --> 52:51.360 I think I do. 52:52.040 --> 52:55.080 It shows the charts here of the different carbon dates they got from different 52:55.080 --> 52:58.740 animals and different organic material found all over Alaska, the geological 52:58.740 --> 52:59.380 survey paper. 53:00.760 --> 53:06.480 Sample number 454, carbon dated at 17,210 years old. 53:07.820 --> 53:13.000 Sample 455 gave a carbon date of 24,000 years old. 53:14.460 --> 53:16.060 People say, see, what's the big deal? 53:16.400 --> 53:17.140 Well, look at it. 53:17.500 --> 53:19.500 This is the same sample as 454. 53:21.360 --> 53:24.460 455 and 454 are the same creature. 53:25.060 --> 53:26.220 They're getting different ages. 53:27.380 --> 53:30.860 Sample 299 was dated at less than 20,000 years old. 53:31.360 --> 53:35.380 Sample 137X was dated at greater than 28,000. 53:36.180 --> 53:36.980 But read it carefully. 53:37.160 --> 53:38.860 That's the same sample as 299. 53:40.180 --> 53:42.540 They gave it a different number in a different laboratory, but it's the same 53:42.540 --> 53:42.960 sample. 53:43.280 --> 53:44.640 Two different numbers, same sample. 53:45.020 --> 53:47.460 Living penguins date 8,000 years old. 53:48.940 --> 53:54.700 Material from dinosaur bone layers were found and dated at 34,000 years old. 53:55.520 --> 53:58.700 They find organic material with dinosaurs, sometimes frozen dinosaur bones, 53:58.780 --> 54:01.020 sometimes unfossilized dinosaur bones are found. 54:02.240 --> 54:05.420 Two Russian scientists dated dinosaur bones at less than 30,000 years old. 54:06.700 --> 54:09.760 Hugh Miller in Columbus, Ohio had four dinosaur bone samples, carbon dated. 54:10.100 --> 54:11.760 They told him they were 20,000 years old. 54:12.420 --> 54:14.000 He didn't tell them they were dinosaur bones. 54:14.640 --> 54:18.080 If he would have said, this is a dinosaur bone and I want you to carbon date it, 54:18.420 --> 54:21.040 they would have said, oh, we can't date that because it's too old. 54:21.720 --> 54:23.280 This is a dinosaur bone, by the way. 54:23.300 --> 54:24.240 It's been replaced by minerals. 54:24.520 --> 54:28.040 They start with the assumption that dinosaurs lived 70 million years ago. 54:28.640 --> 54:31.080 If I took this to a laboratory and said, would you please date this, they would 54:31.080 --> 54:34.240 say, oh, well, we'd have to use something other than carbon dating because this is 54:34.240 --> 54:35.220 too old for carbon dating. 54:36.380 --> 54:38.140 They've already decided what range it fits in. 54:38.300 --> 54:39.460 That's not how science ought to work. 54:40.520 --> 54:43.960 You ought to be able to say, well, let's just be open-minded about this. 54:44.420 --> 54:46.980 They can date the same sample 10 ways and get 10 different numbers. 54:47.740 --> 54:49.460 Here's the things to consider about carbon dating. 54:49.900 --> 54:52.320 If you date a sample of known age, I mean, you know how old it is, 54:52.340 --> 54:54.080 like a tree ring. 54:54.840 --> 54:55.820 Carbon dating doesn't work. 54:56.760 --> 54:59.240 If you date a sample of unknown age, it's assumed to work. 55:00.260 --> 55:01.120 It's not science. 55:01.180 --> 55:02.100 That's not common sense. 55:02.920 --> 55:05.180 As elements decay, they produce helium. 55:05.720 --> 55:08.980 One of the byproducts of carbon decay or radioactive decay of any kind is it 55:08.980 --> 55:12.900 produces helium gas, which, you know, unless you're in the ground where it can 55:12.900 --> 55:15.000 be trapped in a cave, it's going to escape into the atmosphere. 55:15.880 --> 55:19.820 The helium in the atmosphere indicates the earth is not billions of years old, 55:19.840 --> 55:23.640 actually less than 2 million years old, just based on the helium content in the 55:23.640 --> 55:23.940 atmosphere. 55:24.700 --> 55:27.980 If radioactive decay has been going on for millions of years, there should be a lot 55:27.980 --> 55:28.480 more helium. 55:28.660 --> 55:31.620 Taking all factors into account, the helium escape mechanisms and 55:31.620 --> 55:35.040 everything, it's not more than 2 million years old. 55:36.160 --> 55:36.880 It's an excellent book. 55:36.960 --> 55:39.240 If you want to get more in the go-down-deep stuff on carbon dating, 55:39.560 --> 55:42.560 you can get it through our bookstore if you want or call icr.org. 55:42.780 --> 55:43.520 They have the book there. 55:44.740 --> 55:47.840 This guy said, the rocks date the fossils, but the fossils date the rocks more 55:47.840 --> 55:48.380 accurately. 55:49.980 --> 55:52.100 I'll tell you what, folks, the cheese done fell out of his sandwich. 55:53.340 --> 55:57.220 He said, circularity is inherent in the derivation of time scales. 55:57.220 --> 55:58.420 They use circular reasoning. 56:00.020 --> 56:06.320 Specimen 10017 from the moon was divided into six pieces and dated many times. 56:06.860 --> 56:10.120 The ages ranged from 2.5 to 4.6 billion. 56:10.940 --> 56:13.260 Notice, that's nearly a 500% error. 56:13.920 --> 56:14.880 It doesn't work. 56:15.560 --> 56:16.520 I talked to a J.P. 56:16.600 --> 56:17.680 Dawson in Oklahoma. 56:17.860 --> 56:20.880 He was the chief of engineering and operations for the Lunar and Earth Science 56:20.880 --> 56:23.240 Division at NASA in Houston. 56:24.100 --> 56:27.160 He said, they worked on the lunar samples, including the Genesis rock. 56:27.640 --> 56:32.020 He told me they found ages from 10,000 years to several billion years in the same 56:32.020 --> 56:32.500 rock. 56:34.960 --> 56:36.480 So basically you can kind of pick what you want. 56:36.540 --> 56:39.200 There's an excellent chapter in this book called Bones of Contention. 56:39.440 --> 56:41.660 The last chapter deals with what's called the dating game. 56:42.160 --> 56:45.660 It's hilarious to see how they change the dates to make them fit. 56:45.980 --> 56:48.380 You know, if any new evidence comes in, we'll just change the date and make it fit 56:48.380 --> 56:48.700 the theory. 56:49.520 --> 56:51.640 All right, we'll take a little break here, come back and talk about the other dating 56:51.640 --> 56:54.040 methods, potassium-argon, some of the other ones, and then go on to more of your 56:54.040 --> 56:54.400 questions. 56:57.560 --> 56:59.420 Okay, let's take a few more questions and answers. 56:59.540 --> 57:02.860 People often ask me about the age of the Earth and say, doesn't potassium-argon 57:02.860 --> 57:05.840 dating prove the Earth is millions or billions of years old? 57:06.220 --> 57:09.160 Well, potassium is one of the elements in the periodic table. 57:09.280 --> 57:12.280 It slowly decays and turns to argon, which is a gas. 57:12.960 --> 57:17.600 So the theory is that when a volcano erupts, it melts the rock and turns to 57:17.600 --> 57:19.760 lava and comes out and spreads down the hillside. 57:20.420 --> 57:22.740 And the gas would escape because it is now a liquid. 57:23.880 --> 57:29.420 And so as potassium slowly decays to argon, which is a gas, if it melts the 57:29.420 --> 57:31.380 rock, it should reset the clock to zero. 57:31.920 --> 57:36.460 And so they think we can tell how old lava flows are or ash flows, ash beds, 57:36.680 --> 57:38.600 because there should be no argon in them. 57:38.640 --> 57:39.560 It should reset the clock. 57:39.600 --> 57:40.800 It should be just potassium. 57:41.560 --> 57:44.600 Well, it sounds good in theory, but in practice, when you actually test 57:44.600 --> 57:45.500 it, it doesn't work. 57:45.580 --> 57:45.760 Okay? 57:46.240 --> 57:47.980 It's true that potassium decays to argon. 57:48.080 --> 57:51.580 It has a half-life of about 1.3 billion years. 57:51.740 --> 57:53.000 It very, very slowly decays. 57:53.440 --> 57:55.320 Of course, nobody watched it for 1.3 billion years. 57:55.380 --> 57:59.000 They watched it for three or four days in the laboratory and estimated how long it 57:59.000 --> 58:00.120 would take for half of it to disappear. 58:00.680 --> 58:03.300 But let's assume the half-life is right, and that would be quite an assumption, 58:03.400 --> 58:04.800 but I don't argue that much with them. 58:05.560 --> 58:09.280 The fact is, when you actually test it, like the lava flows that were tested from 58:09.280 --> 58:13.600 New Zealand, this chart shows from a radioactive dating failure here article, 58:14.060 --> 58:20.240 about potassium-argon dates were given for a 1975 eruption at the very bottom of the 58:20.240 --> 58:24.140 list here, February 19th, and yet it was way off. 58:24.260 --> 58:30.340 It was 1 to 2, a quarter of a million years old, and yet it was only 1975. 58:31.700 --> 58:38.540 1949, a lava flow, they knew it erupted in 1949, yet it gave an age of a little less 58:38.540 --> 58:40.000 than a quarter million years old. 58:40.020 --> 58:41.560 So it just simply doesn't work. 58:42.280 --> 58:47.400 As much as 80% of the potassium in a small sample in an iron meteorite can be removed 58:47.400 --> 58:51.600 and distilled water in four and a half hours, so we don't know that it actually 58:51.600 --> 58:52.520 resets the clock. 58:52.780 --> 58:57.940 This Canadian Journal of Earth Science article said, in conventional dating for 58:57.940 --> 59:04.260 potassium-argon, it's common to discard ages which are substantially too high or 59:04.260 --> 59:08.500 too low compared with the rest of the group, or with other available data such 59:08.500 --> 59:10.260 as the geologic time scale. 59:10.460 --> 59:11.980 Oh, now here the truth comes out. 59:12.420 --> 59:17.940 Things are really dated by the geologic chart, not by just potassium-argon dating. 59:18.680 --> 59:19.800 We've been through that before. 59:20.540 --> 59:26.660 In Nature magazine back in April of 1970, they had given another example where they 59:26.660 --> 59:30.780 had dated a layer of ash called the KBS Tuff, named after K. 59:30.860 --> 59:31.320 Brenzenmeier. 59:31.980 --> 59:36.080 This layer of ash was dated at between 212 and 230 million years old. 59:36.260 --> 59:39.340 I mean, for years, everybody had dated this layer of ash and everybody agreed 59:39.340 --> 59:42.460 it's over 200 million years old. 59:43.340 --> 59:46.300 What they'll do is, if you look at the picture here, they will have different 59:46.300 --> 59:48.940 layers of ash that they will assign dates to. 59:49.180 --> 59:51.680 These are from volcanic eruptions, lava flows, or ash layers. 59:52.220 --> 59:56.820 If you find a fossil between two layers, you can guess how old it was based upon 59:56.820 --> 01:00:00.420 the potassium-argon date of the one above and the date of the one below. 01:00:00.900 --> 01:00:02.300 Sounds good, doesn't work. 01:00:03.260 --> 01:00:07.360 They bracket the sample by the, it's called an event horizon is the term 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:07.940 they use for it. 01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.500 They'll say, well, there's a volcanic eruption that made this layer of ash over 01:00:10.500 --> 01:00:11.080 the whole countryside. 01:00:11.500 --> 01:00:14.040 Any fossils found below that layer have to be older. 01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:16.720 Any fossils found above this layer have to be younger. 01:00:17.700 --> 01:00:18.320 Sounds good. 01:00:19.260 --> 01:00:25.780 And until Richard Leakey found a skull called the KNMER, they give all these 01:00:25.780 --> 01:00:31.420 numbers, KNMER 1470, this skull was found under the KBS Tuff. 01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.760 Now here, everybody had been saying the KBS Tuff was over 200 million years old 01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:39.080 and they find a normal human skull under it. 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:41.040 Ooh, now you got a problem. 01:00:41.700 --> 01:00:44.720 So they redated the ash layers, the KBS Tuff. 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.280 They would never have redated it if it hadn't found that skull. 01:00:47.820 --> 01:00:52.680 They redated the ash layers and took 10 samples and got numbers from .5 million to 01:00:52.680 --> 01:00:53.980 2.64 million. 01:00:54.760 --> 01:01:00.160 Well, first I'd like to point out that's way down from 212 and still that's a 500% 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:00.660 error. 01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:02.180 It doesn't work. 01:01:03.140 --> 01:01:06.000 I mean a 500% error, they'd laugh at you if you put this in a court of law. 01:01:06.660 --> 01:01:09.080 It's interesting to look at the inflation of the age of the earth. 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:13.400 Back in 1770, George Buffon said the earth is 70,000 years old. 01:01:14.040 --> 01:01:17.700 In 1905, the textbooks would say the earth is 2 billion years old. 01:01:18.120 --> 01:01:22.600 In 1969, when they went to the moon, they said the moon and the earth are 3.5 01:01:22.600 --> 01:01:23.920 billion years old. 01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:28.300 And this number was arrived at by potassium-argon dating, like this article 01:01:28.300 --> 01:01:28.800 says here. 01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:32.920 Today the students are taught it's 4.6 billion years old. 01:01:33.540 --> 01:01:33.940 It's interesting. 01:01:34.040 --> 01:01:37.240 Do you know the earth is getting older at the rate of 21 million years per year? 01:01:38.080 --> 01:01:39.900 That's 40 years per minute. 01:01:40.160 --> 01:01:42.380 We're aging rapidly, folks, so it's silly. 01:01:42.720 --> 01:01:45.320 Here's the things to consider about potassium-argon or any dating method for 01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:45.620 that matter. 01:01:46.240 --> 01:01:48.440 Number one, wild dates are frequently obtained. 01:01:49.140 --> 01:01:50.560 They're not always consistent. 01:01:50.640 --> 01:01:51.560 They get all kinds of numbers. 01:01:51.620 --> 01:01:55.900 They pick the ones that they want based on the preconceived idea, which is based on 01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:57.560 the geologic column, which is dumb. 01:01:58.620 --> 01:02:01.460 Secondly, dates that don't fit the theory are routinely rejected. 01:02:03.160 --> 01:02:04.880 That's not how science ought to work. 01:02:04.980 --> 01:02:07.220 I mean, if it works, it ought to work every time. 01:02:07.340 --> 01:02:08.700 It ought to be testable or demonstrable. 01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:13.400 Number three, it's obvious any dating method is based on the assumptions that 01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:16.680 the original content can be known, that the decay rate never changes, 01:02:16.720 --> 01:02:18.280 that the sample's never been contaminated. 01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:22.600 And the fourth observation somebody needs to point out to these guys is all of these 01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:28.060 decay rates are based on a decline downhill slide, not uphill. 01:02:28.620 --> 01:02:30.700 Potassium decays to argon. 01:02:31.020 --> 01:02:32.400 Carbon-14 decays. 01:02:33.020 --> 01:02:34.240 Everything is decaying. 01:02:34.620 --> 01:02:35.800 This is the opposite of evolution. 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.000 They need something that's improving. 01:02:37.420 --> 01:02:40.680 This will go back to the concept we talk about on Seminar Part 4 of the six 01:02:40.680 --> 01:02:42.240 different meanings of the word evolution. 01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:46.740 You have to have chemical evolution where the chemicals go higher on the periodic 01:02:46.740 --> 01:02:47.820 table, not lower. 01:02:48.060 --> 01:02:49.840 All of these are examples of them going lower. 01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:51.540 Mount St. Helens erupted. 01:02:51.700 --> 01:02:52.520 Many volcanoes erupt. 01:02:52.600 --> 01:02:56.180 For instance, Mount Etna erupted in Sicily back in 122 B.C. 01:02:56.200 --> 01:02:57.160 It was a dated eruption. 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.580 They had historical evidence for it. 01:02:58.940 --> 01:03:02.220 When the potassium argon dated it, it was a quarter million years old. 01:03:02.940 --> 01:03:08.240 The 1801 Hawaiian lava flow gave a potassium argon age of 1.6 million. 01:03:09.220 --> 01:03:10.040 It didn't work. 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:15.660 Another Hawaiian lava flow from 1959 gave an age of 8.5 million years old. 01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:18.740 Mount Etna from Sicily erupted again in 1964. 01:03:19.160 --> 01:03:20.740 It dated, and everybody watched it happen. 01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:25.420 And when they dated it with potassium argon dating, it was 700,000 years old. 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:32.480 In 1972, it erupted again, and now the dates came 3,500,000 years old. 01:03:33.120 --> 01:03:36.360 The lava from Mount St. Helens was tested right after it erupted in 1980. 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:37.840 Brand new lava dome. 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:38.880 They knew the age of it. 01:03:39.640 --> 01:03:45.800 And yet it gave numbers from different dating methods ranging from 350,000 to 2.8 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.440 million. 01:03:48.260 --> 01:03:51.720 This is coming from the same rocks from the lava flow that they knew was 20 years 01:03:51.720 --> 01:03:52.000 old. 01:03:52.980 --> 01:03:55.780 So again, when you date a sample of known age, it doesn't work. 01:03:55.900 --> 01:03:58.620 When you date a sample of unknown age, it is assumed to work. 01:03:58.740 --> 01:04:00.100 That's not common sense. 01:04:00.520 --> 01:04:01.860 And again, wild dates are picked. 01:04:02.020 --> 01:04:02.880 They find them all the time. 01:04:03.180 --> 01:04:04.400 They pick the numbers they want. 01:04:04.460 --> 01:04:05.980 They reject anything they don't like. 01:04:05.980 --> 01:04:09.040 It's based on many assumptions, just like any other dating method is. 01:04:09.540 --> 01:04:12.300 Get the book, The Evolution Cruncher, if you want a whole lot more on the other 01:04:12.300 --> 01:04:15.280 dating methods about uranium-235, uranium-238. 01:04:15.620 --> 01:04:19.920 There's much information there or on the website icr.org, which is an institute for 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:20.460 creation research. 01:04:20.980 --> 01:04:21.460 Next question. 01:04:22.180 --> 01:04:23.500 Have fresh dinosaur bones been found? 01:04:24.180 --> 01:04:24.940 Absolutely, yes. 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:25.700 Quite a few, actually. 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.320 Some frozen dinosaur bones were found in the book here, The Great Alaskan Dinosaur 01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:30.940 Adventure, from Master Books in Arkansas. 01:04:31.520 --> 01:04:33.940 You can read about growing up and finding frozen dinosaur bones. 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.640 In 1993, the Journal of Science, December 24th, Christmas Eve, they 01:04:38.640 --> 01:04:41.760 reported an amazing preservation of the bones of a young duck-billed dinosaur 01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:42.700 found in Montana. 01:04:43.460 --> 01:04:46.060 Under the microscope, the fine structure of the bones was seen to have been 01:04:46.060 --> 01:04:49.620 preserved to such an extent that the cell characteristics could be compared with 01:04:49.620 --> 01:04:50.780 cells of chicken bone. 01:04:51.900 --> 01:04:55.600 1961, in northwest Alaska, they found a bed of dinosaur bones that were 01:04:55.600 --> 01:04:57.080 unpermineralized. 01:04:57.200 --> 01:04:58.740 That means not fossilized. 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.860 That is from Journal of Paleontology, 1986-87. 01:05:06.380 --> 01:05:11.420 In Omni Magazine, January of 1990, they talk about on the banks of the river 01:05:11.420 --> 01:05:17.260 in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, frozen dinosaur bones were found that are as light as 01:05:17.260 --> 01:05:20.000 balsa wood and look as fresh as yesterday's dog bones. 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:23.780 The structure was porous and the fossils were not mineralized. 01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:28.420 On Bilott Island, 1987, they found the lower jaw of a duck-billed dinosaur that 01:05:28.420 --> 01:05:29.720 was in fresh condition. 01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:34.540 Joe Taylor, who does a lot of digging for dinosaurs in Texas, in Crosbyton, 01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:38.020 Texas, outside of Lubbock, has discovered many times, he said he finds dinosaur 01:05:38.020 --> 01:05:39.760 bones that are not fossilized. 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:43.660 So the idea that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago is silly. 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:46.920 So, next question. 01:05:47.260 --> 01:05:49.360 If there really was a flood, where are all the human bones? 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.600 People say, oh, if the world was totally destroyed, you ought to find millions of 01:05:51.600 --> 01:05:52.100 human fossils. 01:05:52.260 --> 01:05:56.940 Well, about 4,000 human remains have been found, according to Marvin Lubin now, 01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:01.180 who is one of the smartest guys I know on the topic of human ancestors. 01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.560 You know, his book, Bones of Contention, is excellent from a Christian perspective 01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:07.540 on all the so-called cavemen that they're finding. 01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:12.100 Many of the human remains, even those are very fragmentary, just one bone or just a 01:06:12.100 --> 01:06:12.540 few bones. 01:06:12.640 --> 01:06:15.920 But let's assume 4,000 human remains have been found, just to pick a number. 01:06:17.120 --> 01:06:20.500 I think when God made the earth 6,000 years ago, it was full of plants, 01:06:20.500 --> 01:06:22.320 full of animals, and only two people. 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.820 4,400 years later when the flood came, or 1,600 years later when the flood came, 01:06:27.040 --> 01:06:30.240 the world is still full of plants and still full of animals and still not full 01:06:30.240 --> 01:06:30.560 of people. 01:06:31.660 --> 01:06:33.360 I'm not sure what the population was. 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:35.940 I would pick a number clear out of the clear blue sky and say, let's assume there 01:06:35.940 --> 01:06:37.520 was a billion people at the time of the flood. 01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:39.200 It may have been a lot more. 01:06:39.260 --> 01:06:42.300 If they had 100 kids per family, populations grow quickly like that. 01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:45.760 But let's say it was a population of a billion. 01:06:47.340 --> 01:06:48.500 It may have been 10 billion. 01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:49.520 I don't think there is any way to tell. 01:06:50.220 --> 01:06:52.820 The problem is they all died except for Noah and his family. 01:06:53.480 --> 01:07:00.360 So 1,600 years and 1,650 years after the creation, you still don't have the world 01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:01.080 full of people yet. 01:07:01.900 --> 01:07:05.720 The purpose of the flood was to destroy man off the earth, Genesis chapter 6 and 01:07:05.720 --> 01:07:06.160 verse 7. 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:10.560 The Bible also says there were giants in the earth in those days, men of renown, 01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:12.800 mighty men, big people. 01:07:13.620 --> 01:07:19.140 Here is a picture we use on seminar part 2 about the human thumb bone on top compared 01:07:19.140 --> 01:07:22.920 with a giant human thumb bone underneath found right near Mount Everett. 01:07:24.720 --> 01:07:28.120 Here are the reasons I would give why so few human fossils have been found. 01:07:28.220 --> 01:07:32.140 Number one, there were less people to be killed than there were animals. 01:07:32.380 --> 01:07:35.940 So you are more likely to find animal bones than human bones simply because 01:07:35.940 --> 01:07:37.220 there were more of them. 01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:39.780 God only made two people but he made a world full of animals. 01:07:40.340 --> 01:07:44.140 Secondly, people are smarter than animals, well some people anyway. 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:48.020 And so they would tend to avoid drowning until last and they end up on top. 01:07:48.100 --> 01:07:50.420 So they end up rotting instead of being buried. 01:07:50.680 --> 01:07:53.040 In order to fossilize, the animal has to be buried. 01:07:53.820 --> 01:07:57.340 So I think you are more likely to find animal fossils than human fossils for this 01:07:57.340 --> 01:07:57.980 reason also. 01:07:58.600 --> 01:08:02.440 Thirdly, if humans were bigger the bones might not be recognized as human. 01:08:05.160 --> 01:08:08.260 Because many people go into this study with the preconceived idea that evolution 01:08:08.260 --> 01:08:11.080 is true and man used to be small and we are getting bigger and better and stronger 01:08:11.080 --> 01:08:13.500 and smarter and probably exactly the opposite is true. 01:08:14.420 --> 01:08:19.720 If people were eight or nine or ten feet tall before the flood and you found human 01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:23.060 bones from somebody eight or nine or ten feet tall, like this thigh bone here over 01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:25.860 my head which is from a human, it would have been nearly thirteen feet 01:08:25.860 --> 01:08:26.140 tall. 01:08:26.460 --> 01:08:30.660 We cover that on video number two about the giant people. 01:08:31.300 --> 01:08:32.880 That would have been a thirteen foot human. 01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:39.000 Well, if just a fragment of that bone was found, nobody would dream it came from a 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:42.960 human, if they believed in evolution, because they have got stuck in their head 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:46.300 that man used to be like a chimpanzee, three feet tall, and now we are six feet 01:08:46.300 --> 01:08:46.560 tall. 01:08:47.280 --> 01:08:49.120 And so they would assign it to something else. 01:08:49.160 --> 01:08:51.600 They would call it a cave bear or a giant sloth or something. 01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:53.460 It can't be human, that they would know for sure. 01:08:54.120 --> 01:08:57.220 So I think many bones are misidentified for that reason because of the 01:08:57.220 --> 01:09:01.060 preconceived evolutionary concept which is a great hindrance to scientific research. 01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:05.060 Next question, where did Noah get pitch? 01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:10.300 In my debate number seven with an atheist that was a former preacher, a Church of 01:09:10.300 --> 01:09:14.080 Christ preacher turned atheist, he said Noah couldn't make pitch because 01:09:14.080 --> 01:09:16.800 pitch is made from oil and oil formed during the flood. 01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.180 Well, there is a problem with that, several problems with that. 01:09:20.540 --> 01:09:26.240 Genesis chapter six, God said to Noah to make the ark with gopher wood and pitch it 01:09:26.240 --> 01:09:27.460 with pitch within and without. 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:31.000 Obviously he is going to pitch it before the flood comes, so he is not going to 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.360 make it out of oil that are made from creatures that drowned in the flood. 01:09:34.220 --> 01:09:39.220 Exodus 2 talks about Pharaoh's daughter drawing Moses from a basket that was 01:09:39.220 --> 01:09:40.440 daubed with pitch. 01:09:41.380 --> 01:09:42.400 They covered it with pitch. 01:09:42.460 --> 01:09:43.580 Well, what is pitch anyway? 01:09:44.140 --> 01:09:45.640 Isaiah 34 talks about pitch. 01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:47.780 It says burning pitch and it puts off a smoke. 01:09:48.420 --> 01:09:49.680 Here we learn a few things about pitch. 01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:55.380 If you get a dictionary from 1828, Webster's Dictionary 1828, you will notice 01:09:55.380 --> 01:09:56.340 you can look up the word pitch. 01:09:56.860 --> 01:10:00.160 By the way, 1828 is before oil was used commercially. 01:10:00.300 --> 01:10:03.980 In fact, the first oil well was drilled in Pennsylvania about 1830s or 1840s, 01:10:03.980 --> 01:10:04.960 I don't remember the date. 01:10:05.500 --> 01:10:09.080 But certainly there were no oil wells that we know of before that, so they weren't 01:10:09.080 --> 01:10:12.580 drilling into the ground to get oil and yet they were making pitch in 1828. 01:10:12.900 --> 01:10:13.440 It is in the dictionary. 01:10:14.040 --> 01:10:18.800 It says, pitch is a thick tenacious substance, the juice of a species of pine 01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:19.780 or fir. 01:10:20.580 --> 01:10:21.800 It is made from pine trees. 01:10:21.900 --> 01:10:23.440 It is the sap of a tree. 01:10:24.480 --> 01:10:27.900 The second definition says it is the resin of pine or turpentine. 01:10:28.360 --> 01:10:31.680 It is used in caulking ships and paying the sides and bottom. 01:10:32.320 --> 01:10:33.940 That is to waterproof the boats. 01:10:34.580 --> 01:10:36.060 So they were pitch industries. 01:10:36.120 --> 01:10:36.800 They were whole factories. 01:10:36.900 --> 01:10:37.700 They produced pitch. 01:10:37.740 --> 01:10:41.140 They put it in barrels and they would sell it to ship making companies. 01:10:41.500 --> 01:10:44.900 It is basically like a tar substance, but it is made from the sap of trees. 01:10:45.480 --> 01:10:48.360 So no, don't tell me the Bible is wrong because it says they used pitch before the 01:10:48.360 --> 01:10:48.600 flood. 01:10:48.620 --> 01:10:51.100 The Bible is absolutely correct and the skeptics are wrong. 01:10:51.900 --> 01:10:52.620 Okay, next question. 01:10:53.160 --> 01:10:54.120 Was ancient man primitive? 01:10:54.860 --> 01:10:58.020 Some people get this false idea that modern man is smart and everybody in the 01:10:58.020 --> 01:10:58.900 past was dumb. 01:10:59.420 --> 01:11:00.700 That is ridiculous. 01:11:01.240 --> 01:11:03.560 There is a lot of indication ancient man was extremely smart. 01:11:04.120 --> 01:11:07.320 There is an excellent book we sell called The Puzzle of Ancient Man by Don Chittick. 01:11:07.540 --> 01:11:08.340 I highly recommend this one. 01:11:08.380 --> 01:11:11.820 It is about $10 showing some of the incredible achievements of ancient man. 01:11:12.660 --> 01:11:16.880 Before the flood came, the Bible says the people lived to be over 900 years old. 01:11:17.400 --> 01:11:20.920 You could learn a lot in 900 years, plus when you consider a couple of other 01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:22.380 factors, they lived in a perfect environment. 01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:27.160 They would have had much higher IQs, much less to do as far as just daily 01:11:27.160 --> 01:11:28.440 things you have to do just to live. 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.760 Most of those things are taken care of in the Garden of Eden. 01:11:31.540 --> 01:11:34.660 You don't need a house, you have perfect weather, so they can devote all their time 01:11:34.660 --> 01:11:36.440 to study or learning things. 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.240 Plus Adam came pre-programmed from the hand of God, probably had an incredibly 01:11:40.240 --> 01:11:44.140 high IQ, and he got to walk and talk with God for a while until he sinned, 01:11:44.180 --> 01:11:45.380 maybe 100 years, we don't know. 01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:47.700 But he got to walk and talk with God. 01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:50.880 The other factor to consider is Adam lived long enough to know his 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:52.720 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson. 01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.580 Noah's daddy could have known Adam for 56 years. 01:11:56.280 --> 01:12:01.420 So you get not only a much higher starting point, they already knew a lot because God 01:12:01.420 --> 01:12:05.100 pre-programmed it into Adam, plus they lived a long time and could learn a lot 01:12:05.100 --> 01:12:08.820 more, plus they lived long enough to pass this on to many generations. 01:12:09.780 --> 01:12:11.840 Today an awful lot of knowledge goes to the grave. 01:12:12.440 --> 01:12:15.160 About the time you know it all, you die. 01:12:15.980 --> 01:12:17.600 By the time you know a bunch of stuff, you die. 01:12:18.020 --> 01:12:23.760 Imagine if guys like Einstein could live 800 or 900 years, how much knowledge could 01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:25.300 they accumulate in a brain like that? 01:12:26.380 --> 01:12:30.800 So I think before the Flood they were much smarter, much smarter than we are today. 01:12:31.240 --> 01:12:35.440 And some of this knowledge was passed down and as lifespans got shorter, it began to 01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:36.080 be lost. 01:12:36.780 --> 01:12:40.500 And a lot of societies were arranged to try to, secret societies, to preserve this 01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:43.440 knowledge through different cultures and things like that. 01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:45.480 But they opened up a grave in South America. 01:12:45.740 --> 01:12:50.280 The grave was probably made about a thousand years ago and found this little 01:12:50.280 --> 01:12:52.320 gold artifact in there. 01:12:52.440 --> 01:12:54.060 You can see it next to the dime for scale. 01:12:54.660 --> 01:12:56.620 It looks like an airplane about this big. 01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.060 The Smithsonian has it and they have it labeled as a stylized insect. 01:13:03.180 --> 01:13:07.560 Because they got this preconceived idea, ancient man was dumb, modern man is smart, 01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:10.500 they could not possibly have known about airplanes a thousand years ago. 01:13:10.980 --> 01:13:12.540 And yet, here they've got one. 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:14.040 That's not a stylized insect. 01:13:14.160 --> 01:13:16.020 I'm sorry, they knew about flight. 01:13:16.820 --> 01:13:21.760 An Egyptian tomb was opened that's 2,100 years old and it also had an airplane in 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:23.440 it, a little model glider. 01:13:24.480 --> 01:13:27.120 How did they know about airplanes over 2,000 years ago? 01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:31.700 This iron pot found in a lump of coal indicates a high level of technology 01:13:31.700 --> 01:13:33.560 before coal formed. 01:13:34.140 --> 01:13:38.420 I believe coal formed in the Flood in the days of Noah, so an iron pot is not a 01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:38.660 problem. 01:13:38.740 --> 01:13:41.380 The Bible says Tubalcain was an artificer in brass and iron. 01:13:42.140 --> 01:13:45.500 Some of the walls that are found in Peru, of these giant stone walls, have these 01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:48.700 massive blocks of stone that are cut and they fit together perfectly. 01:13:49.620 --> 01:13:53.100 One of the stones in one of these walls weighs 20,000 tons. 01:13:54.340 --> 01:13:58.940 Well, the biggest crane on earth today can only lift 3,000 tons. 01:13:59.780 --> 01:14:03.160 How on earth were they lifting a stone 20,000 tons? 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:06.600 We simply don't know how they did it. 01:14:07.060 --> 01:14:11.000 Actually, in the book Secret of the Lost Races, the author said, what's truly 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.280 impossible about the block is that it's the size of a five-story house and weighs 01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:17.340 an estimated 20,000 tons. 01:14:17.860 --> 01:14:21.660 He said, we have no combination of machinery today that could dislodge such a 01:14:21.660 --> 01:14:23.540 weight, let alone move it any distance. 01:14:25.860 --> 01:14:29.780 It shows their mastery of a technology that we, as yet, have not attained. 01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.160 Somebody in the past knew something we can't even do today, and I think that's 01:14:34.160 --> 01:14:35.280 the case with a lot of things. 01:14:35.980 --> 01:14:39.980 This brass bell type thing was found inside a lump of coal. 01:14:40.240 --> 01:14:42.040 Mr. Newton Anderson has it sitting on his desk. 01:14:42.080 --> 01:14:44.280 I've talked to him many times about it, and I think you ought to donate it to our 01:14:44.280 --> 01:14:45.460 museum here, Mr. Anderson. 01:14:45.860 --> 01:14:46.980 We'd keep it safe for you, I'm sure. 01:14:47.480 --> 01:14:48.780 But kids could come by and see it here. 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:49.520 We'd love to have that. 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:52.340 By the way, if you have any artifacts for our museum, we'd love to get anything. 01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:54.240 We want to influence people for the Lord. 01:14:54.280 --> 01:14:57.720 So if it's sitting in your closet gathering dust, you can put it on loan or 01:14:57.720 --> 01:14:59.800 give it to us or buy it off you if we can afford it. 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:01.200 So that's the kind of things we have here. 01:15:01.260 --> 01:15:02.540 We want to get the gospel out. 01:15:03.280 --> 01:15:07.900 This vase found in solid rock, supposed to be 600,000 years old. 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.980 Ancient man was not primitive. 01:15:11.420 --> 01:15:14.580 They found a sunken ship in the Aegean Sea, which is near Greece in the 01:15:14.580 --> 01:15:18.880 Mediterranean, and there was encrusted on there what appeared to be an analog 01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:20.100 computing device. 01:15:21.860 --> 01:15:23.960 The more they analyzed this thing, it's now in the National Science 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:25.640 Foundation Museum, I believe. 01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:29.440 I don't remember where that one's at, but I read about it a little bit. 01:15:29.820 --> 01:15:32.600 This looks like an analog computer. 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:35.520 This is 2,100 years ago. 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:42.300 This hammer was found in rock supposed to be 400 million years old by a lady in 01:15:42.300 --> 01:15:42.660 Texas. 01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:49.600 Battelle Laboratory said it's 96.6% iron, 2.6% chlorine, 0.74% sulfur. 01:15:50.180 --> 01:15:51.280 No carbon. 01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:52.880 And yet it is stainless steel. 01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:54.840 It won't rust. 01:15:55.240 --> 01:15:57.840 Carl Baugh's got it in his museum down in Lenrose, Texas. 01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:03.360 Apparently they knew about electricity a long time ago because this battery was 01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:06.500 found in Iraq from about 2,000 years ago. 01:16:07.360 --> 01:16:09.060 The Egyptians must have known about electricity. 01:16:09.320 --> 01:16:13.460 This hieroglyphic shows what appears to be wires and a generator or something hooked 01:16:13.460 --> 01:16:16.580 up to these two snakes. 01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:20.360 Either the snakes are producing electricity or they're putting electricity 01:16:20.360 --> 01:16:20.840 into the snakes. 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.000 I don't know, but they must have known about electricity a long time ago. 01:16:25.500 --> 01:16:28.420 They certainly knew about tampering with the skull, about brain surgery. 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:31.720 Some of the skulls are found with holes that actually healed up. 01:16:31.940 --> 01:16:33.760 They did brain surgery and the people lived. 01:16:34.480 --> 01:16:37.580 One of the icca stones from Peru shows a man doing brain surgery. 01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:40.320 There are only about 25 of these stones in America. 01:16:40.460 --> 01:16:41.780 We have three here in our museum. 01:16:42.500 --> 01:16:47.320 This is one of the actual icca stones from Peru showing a man and dinosaur together. 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:53.020 Some of the stones show amputations, people's legs being amputated and 01:16:53.020 --> 01:16:54.480 artificial limbs being attached. 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.220 They show heart surgery. 01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:59.820 Here are some of the tools that they used for the surgery, for the brain surgery. 01:17:01.220 --> 01:17:06.320 Dennis Swift has spent a fortune and a lot of time studying all about the icca 01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:06.680 stones. 01:17:07.080 --> 01:17:08.940 They knew about reshaping the skulls. 01:17:08.980 --> 01:17:13.680 Here are some strange shaped skulls that they used to, for whatever reason, 01:17:14.220 --> 01:17:16.340 they would shape the skulls. 01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.260 Ancient man was not primitive. 01:17:18.720 --> 01:17:21.780 He knew an awful lot, probably more than we do today in many areas. 01:17:22.540 --> 01:17:25.520 Here is a stone from Icca, Peru showing what appears to be heart surgery. 01:17:26.460 --> 01:17:27.800 They're taking the person's heart out. 01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:31.940 Now whether that's the soul leaving and the guy died or I don't know, but they 01:17:31.940 --> 01:17:33.060 knew about open heart. 01:17:33.100 --> 01:17:37.540 Here's one showing an artificial limb, thus amputation. 01:17:38.160 --> 01:17:40.820 This little thing appears to be designed to be a steam engine. 01:17:41.300 --> 01:17:43.160 Dennis Swift has a lot of information about that. 01:17:43.740 --> 01:17:45.580 They knew about the wheel a long time ago. 01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.480 This is from the icca civilization, many, many thousand, several thousand 01:17:48.480 --> 01:17:48.900 years ago. 01:17:49.320 --> 01:17:52.280 This little spider, in real life, is only an eighth of an inch long, 01:17:52.860 --> 01:17:55.960 but this is one of the drawings called the Nazca Lines. 01:17:56.600 --> 01:17:59.840 Notice the leg on the right, the bottom right, has one leg that's much longer than 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:00.200 the rest. 01:18:00.280 --> 01:18:01.700 It looks like, oops, they made a mistake. 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.760 It was just discovered recently that this little tiny spider, which you cannot see 01:18:05.760 --> 01:18:10.620 without a magnifying glass, during mating season, just for a few seconds, 01:18:10.900 --> 01:18:15.340 that leg grows longer, it mates off the sperm and eggs on the tip of that leg, 01:18:15.700 --> 01:18:17.080 and then the leg shrinks back in. 01:18:17.900 --> 01:18:19.960 How could they have known that without magnification? 01:18:21.440 --> 01:18:25.500 These metallic spheres found in South Africa have parallel lines going around 01:18:25.500 --> 01:18:29.620 them, obviously man-made, and yet they're in rock, supposed to be pre-Cambrian. 01:18:29.740 --> 01:18:32.900 The textbook said it's 2.8 billion years old. 01:18:33.300 --> 01:18:34.000 That's baloney. 01:18:34.080 --> 01:18:35.640 We'll have a whole bunch about this on our website. 01:18:36.180 --> 01:18:37.540 You can get it from Michael Cremo's books. 01:18:38.040 --> 01:18:39.580 And of course he believes it's 2.8 billion. 01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:40.960 He's wrong about that, but he's right. 01:18:41.060 --> 01:18:41.980 It's a man-made artifact. 01:18:44.100 --> 01:18:48.640 This mortar and pestle were found underneath deposits of rock, supposed to 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:54.720 be 33 to 55 million years old, under Table Mountain in California. 01:18:56.040 --> 01:19:04.040 These little nano-artifacts were found, extremely tiny, little coils, some down to 01:19:04.040 --> 01:19:06.780 1 ten-thousandth of an inch. 01:19:08.900 --> 01:19:10.500 How did they carve something like that? 01:19:10.540 --> 01:19:12.740 How could they see something like that? 01:19:13.540 --> 01:19:18.460 I suspect they had much better vision, down to extremely fine vision, 01:19:19.020 --> 01:19:22.220 to be able to see real tiny things, or they certainly knew about magnification 01:19:22.220 --> 01:19:22.920 techniques. 01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.660 These nano-artifacts follow what's called the golden mean ratio. 01:19:27.520 --> 01:19:30.080 We're going to do a whole videotape on the golden mean ratio. 01:19:30.200 --> 01:19:34.220 That is absolutely amazing how the Greeks discovered that, that the thing that's 01:19:34.220 --> 01:19:38.360 pleasing to the eye is rectangles that are 1 to 1.61 in ratio. 01:19:38.900 --> 01:19:40.500 That's what the pentagram is all about. 01:19:40.860 --> 01:19:44.000 Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse did a cartoon, Walt Disney did a cartoon about 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.920 the golden mean ratio called Math Magic Land, I think is the name of it. 01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:50.840 That's amazing, showing how the golden mean ratio is found in all sorts of 01:19:50.840 --> 01:19:51.040 things. 01:19:51.440 --> 01:19:53.580 It's found in the chambered nautilus. 01:19:53.820 --> 01:19:58.700 The way that it grows, the length to width of the chambered nautilus follows the 01:19:58.700 --> 01:19:59.680 golden mean ratio. 01:20:00.140 --> 01:20:05.500 If you take one and cut it in half, I've got one here, you can see the 01:20:05.500 --> 01:20:07.280 chambers inside as it grows. 01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:10.900 The ram's horn does the same thing, a sunflower does the same thing. 01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:16.200 Even the scales on a pine cone follow the golden mean ratio. 01:20:17.480 --> 01:20:19.820 We'll do a whole videotape on that someday, that's amazing. 01:20:20.040 --> 01:20:20.760 Okay, next topic. 01:20:21.500 --> 01:20:23.200 What about the Great Pyramid? 01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:25.040 The Great Pyramid is amazing. 01:20:25.580 --> 01:20:28.080 It is the largest building by far on the surface of the planet. 01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:30.020 Nobody knows for sure when it was built. 01:20:30.100 --> 01:20:31.080 There's a lot of theories about it. 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.920 It's much larger in volume than the Sears Tower. 01:20:35.160 --> 01:20:36.820 There are four theories about the Great Pyramid. 01:20:37.420 --> 01:20:39.220 Two theories say it's built before the Flood. 01:20:39.440 --> 01:20:40.960 Two theories say it's built after the Flood. 01:20:41.660 --> 01:20:44.540 And then they divide it up into two theories say it's built by heathen people, 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:46.600 it's just a heathen structure, no big deal. 01:20:46.940 --> 01:20:49.800 Other people think, no, it's a godly structure and it has symbolism in there 01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:51.960 for Christianity, or at least for the Lord. 01:20:52.340 --> 01:20:53.580 I don't know, it doesn't matter to me. 01:20:53.620 --> 01:20:55.020 I'll just share the four theories with you. 01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.360 The Great Pyramid is a massive building. 01:20:57.940 --> 01:20:59.120 It is built in Egypt. 01:21:00.240 --> 01:21:03.360 It may be a fulfillment of this prophecy in Isaiah chapter 19. 01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:07.340 It says, "...in that day there would be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land 01:21:07.340 --> 01:21:08.960 of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof. 01:21:09.020 --> 01:21:12.660 And it shall be a sign and a witness for the Lord." Many people have preached on 01:21:12.660 --> 01:21:12.900 this. 01:21:12.980 --> 01:21:14.000 Whether it's true or not, I don't know. 01:21:14.240 --> 01:21:19.380 But Egypt, they say, this pyramid is on the border where the kingdoms split and 01:21:19.380 --> 01:21:20.540 there were two kingdoms feuding. 01:21:21.080 --> 01:21:23.640 So it's at the border of Egypt, but it's also in the midst thereof once 01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:24.660 the kingdoms got back together. 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:26.560 Don't know, couldn't prove that. 01:21:27.280 --> 01:21:31.180 The Great Pyramid, here's a schematic drawing of it, showing if you walk in the 01:21:31.180 --> 01:21:35.140 entrance on the right where the letter A is, you can take the broad way that leads 01:21:35.140 --> 01:21:39.100 down to the pit or you can go to the narrow way which leads you into the king's 01:21:39.100 --> 01:21:39.400 chamber. 01:21:40.200 --> 01:21:43.080 So here you have the symbolism of the broad way and the narrow way. 01:21:43.740 --> 01:21:47.300 If you go up the narrow way you end up into a large section called the Great 01:21:47.300 --> 01:21:48.380 Grand Gallery. 01:21:49.120 --> 01:21:52.680 And there are markings along the wall that some people think are actually based on 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.560 pyramid inches which actually tell some kind of history of the world. 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.920 You know, it's got events that correspond to major events in world history. 01:22:00.120 --> 01:22:01.440 It's the largest building by far. 01:22:02.140 --> 01:22:05.980 It contains enough stone to build a brick wall 10 feet high completely around Texas. 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.640 Some of the stones in the Great Pyramid weigh 70 tons. 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:12.520 The top is 450 feet high. 01:22:13.100 --> 01:22:15.220 The capstone was never installed. 01:22:16.180 --> 01:22:20.120 The entrance goes down the broad way or you can turn around and change your 01:22:20.120 --> 01:22:22.980 direction and go up the narrow way to the king's chamber. 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:26.100 In the king's chamber there's an empty tomb. 01:22:28.240 --> 01:22:31.040 Apparently the tests have revealed there's never been a person buried in there. 01:22:32.700 --> 01:22:34.160 Again, it may be Christian symbolism. 01:22:34.320 --> 01:22:34.700 I don't know. 01:22:35.480 --> 01:22:39.620 The pyramid probably was originally covered with 144,000 casing stones that 01:22:39.620 --> 01:22:43.900 fit together so tightly that you couldn't even find the seams in many cases and you 01:22:43.900 --> 01:22:45.800 definitely couldn't put a piece of paper between them. 01:22:46.380 --> 01:22:47.760 The capstone was never found. 01:22:49.120 --> 01:22:54.200 Revelation 7 tells us there's going to be 144,000 of the children of Israel that are 01:22:54.200 --> 01:22:55.340 sealed in the book of Revelation. 01:22:56.040 --> 01:22:56.520 Interesting. 01:22:57.040 --> 01:23:00.520 144,000 sealed stones encased the Great Pyramid. 01:23:00.580 --> 01:23:02.640 So this may be something Christian symbolism. 01:23:02.820 --> 01:23:03.060 I don't know. 01:23:03.620 --> 01:23:06.160 Ephesians talks about the whole body being fitly joined together. 01:23:07.700 --> 01:23:11.380 Matthew tells about the stone that the builders rejected became the head of the 01:23:11.380 --> 01:23:11.620 corner. 01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:13.220 Same thing in Mark chapter 12. 01:23:13.300 --> 01:23:16.920 The stone which the builders rejected, Luke 20, the stone the builders rejected 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:17.860 has become the head of the corner. 01:23:18.620 --> 01:23:24.260 It could be that the pyramid, if it is a Christian symbol, has the capstone, 01:23:24.360 --> 01:23:28.280 the chief cornerstone, not installed because God is telling us He's not done 01:23:28.280 --> 01:23:29.300 doing His work here yet. 01:23:29.980 --> 01:23:30.240 I don't know. 01:23:30.300 --> 01:23:31.280 Preachers good may be true. 01:23:31.360 --> 01:23:32.480 I wouldn't be dogmatic on it. 01:23:33.040 --> 01:23:36.180 But the book of Daniel talks about the stone cut out of the mountain without 01:23:36.180 --> 01:23:39.200 hands that smote the image on the feet and it became a great kingdom. 01:23:39.900 --> 01:23:44.280 Some people think that the New Jerusalem which is 1500 by 1500 by 1500 is actually 01:23:44.280 --> 01:23:48.660 a pyramid because that's the only building that has one cornerstone as opposed to 01:23:48.660 --> 01:23:50.880 normal buildings which would have four cornerstones. 01:23:51.280 --> 01:23:54.060 A pyramid would have one and if Jesus is the light of the world He could be the 01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:58.720 cornerstone that hasn't been installed yet and He's going to be the ruler of the 01:23:58.720 --> 01:24:00.240 world coming soon to a city near you. 01:24:00.820 --> 01:24:06.180 Of course Satan has abused this and used the Great Pyramid as the symbol on the 01:24:06.180 --> 01:24:07.060 back of the one dollar bill. 01:24:07.200 --> 01:24:08.420 It's a symbol for the New World Order. 01:24:08.900 --> 01:24:13.760 Notice on the one dollar bill they show the left eye which is often used in Satan 01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:14.060 worship. 01:24:14.660 --> 01:24:16.780 And they have a gap between the eye and the pyramid. 01:24:17.020 --> 01:24:21.040 This is supposed to be symbolic of the idea that Lucifer has not been installed 01:24:21.040 --> 01:24:22.120 as the world ruler yet. 01:24:22.180 --> 01:24:23.780 They're hoping of course to get Lucifer installed. 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:29.340 And in front it says, Norvus Ordo Seclorum, New World Order, New Order of 01:24:29.340 --> 01:24:29.780 the Ages. 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.020 This is the symbol for the New World Order, has been on our dollar bill since 01:24:33.020 --> 01:24:33.820 1935. 01:24:34.740 --> 01:24:35.820 In front there are things growing. 01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:38.320 In the back it's desert and how they're going to bring in their New World Order. 01:24:38.380 --> 01:24:42.540 The 13 lines of stone on the Great Pyramid here apparently represent the 13 degrees 01:24:42.540 --> 01:24:44.160 of the Masonic Lodge. 01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:45.900 And that's all ties in. 01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.660 We cover more on that on video number 5. 01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:49.360 Okay, next question. 01:24:50.320 --> 01:24:52.320 Was the earth ever a hot molten mass? 01:24:53.020 --> 01:24:56.860 Textbooks will say, As the earth formed, the surface was similar to the moon. 01:24:57.340 --> 01:25:00.960 Craters like in the picture and large plains of volcanic basalt may have marked 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:01.580 its surface. 01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:07.300 But unlike the moon, the earth's surface was hot and there were large pools of 01:25:07.300 --> 01:25:08.000 bubbling lava. 01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:10.320 That's what the books are teaching the kids in school. 01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.240 The question is, is it true? 01:25:13.060 --> 01:25:17.640 Well, Genesis 1 tells us, God moved upon the face of the waters. 01:25:18.340 --> 01:25:22.680 When God made the earth it was under water, which means it was not a hot molten 01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:23.120 mass. 01:25:23.320 --> 01:25:24.480 Somebody is wrong. 01:25:25.180 --> 01:25:27.880 So the question is, was the earth hot or was it not hot? 01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.060 Well, let's look at the scientific evidence. 01:25:30.700 --> 01:25:35.020 Robert Gentry from Knoxville, or Powell, Tennessee, near Knoxville, has done great 01:25:35.020 --> 01:25:37.140 research on radiopolonium halos. 01:25:37.620 --> 01:25:40.660 His website is halos.com, if you want to get a hold of Robert Gentry. 01:25:41.300 --> 01:25:42.880 I've been to his house and seen his laboratory. 01:25:42.980 --> 01:25:45.680 It's amazing the stuff he did on radiopolonium halos. 01:25:46.020 --> 01:25:49.600 He discovered in granites all over the world there are little tiny rings. 01:25:50.080 --> 01:25:51.380 You can't see them without a good microscope. 01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:55.100 But these rings are sort of like, the best analogy would be, if a hand 01:25:55.100 --> 01:25:59.220 grenade exploded in Jell-O, all the fragments would fly out and be stuck in 01:25:59.220 --> 01:26:02.540 the Jell-O, if you had a big block of Jell-O. 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:03.820 It would make a halo. 01:26:04.320 --> 01:26:07.760 Well, as polonium decays, it's radioactive, as it decays it sends off 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.460 these little particles and they all go a certain distance. 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:14.560 So you end up, just similar to the hand grenade, you end up with a ring of these 01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:15.120 little particles. 01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:20.740 If this happens in hot molten rock, it's going to decay and make this little 01:26:20.740 --> 01:26:21.880 halo and the halo is going to melt. 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:22.480 It's going to disappear. 01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:26.440 Just like when fireworks go off, it makes a beautiful circle in the sky and 01:26:26.440 --> 01:26:28.400 then it doesn't stay there, of course, it falls down. 01:26:28.940 --> 01:26:33.860 Polonium has a very short half-life, and so if it made its little halo as the 01:26:33.860 --> 01:26:38.280 polonium decayed, and made its little halo in the rock, if the rock was hot, 01:26:38.420 --> 01:26:39.220 the halo would disappear. 01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:44.540 If the rock were already cold, it would leave a ring behind. 01:26:45.260 --> 01:26:47.540 And these rings are found in rock all over the world. 01:26:47.620 --> 01:26:50.560 And Robert Gentry did a lot of research on this and said, folks, these rocks were 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:56.500 never hot molten mass because this is polonium that is original, it's not a 01:26:56.500 --> 01:26:59.660 daughter product of something else, and it's leaving a ring behind. 01:27:00.360 --> 01:27:01.780 This rock was never hot. 01:27:02.540 --> 01:27:05.540 And as soon as his research, people began to realize his research was against the 01:27:05.540 --> 01:27:08.460 Big Bang Theory, he lost his funding, of course. 01:27:09.240 --> 01:27:09.980 Okay, next question. 01:27:10.740 --> 01:27:12.200 What about global warming? 01:27:12.700 --> 01:27:15.620 Is it true the Earth is heating up and we've got to save the environment, 01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:18.960 save Mother Earth and kill all the babies and save all the whales? 01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:24.740 Well, there's a good book, several good books, about global warming. 01:27:24.860 --> 01:27:27.860 I think there's a whole lot more to this story than we realize. 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:31.680 There's no question man has abused the environment, okay, but I don't think the 01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:32.600 government's the one to fix it. 01:27:33.940 --> 01:27:36.420 There's a book called Facts Not Fear, you can get through Derry Brownfield's 01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:37.960 ministry in Missouri. 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.600 R12, which is what's used in refrigerants for air conditioners, it sinks, 01:27:43.700 --> 01:27:44.380 it doesn't rise. 01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:46.120 Try it. 01:27:46.200 --> 01:27:49.020 If you can get some R12 and poke a little hole in the can and put a match under it, 01:27:49.040 --> 01:27:50.680 it'll put the match out as it flows over it. 01:27:50.720 --> 01:27:51.560 It's not going up. 01:27:53.980 --> 01:27:58.000 A volcano can produce thousands of times more ozone-destroying material than man 01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.500 has produced in the history of our modern world, okay, since R12's been used for 01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:02.900 refrigerants. 01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:06.520 What's happened now, we've got a different one, I think it's R132, used in air 01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.300 conditioners, and the cost has gone way up. 01:28:08.660 --> 01:28:12.220 This is part of the plan to bankrupt the world, I think, get everybody in debt to 01:28:12.220 --> 01:28:13.120 the New World Order folks. 01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:20.100 So no, it's silly what's happened with air conditioning and environmental scares that 01:28:20.100 --> 01:28:20.560 are going around. 01:28:21.300 --> 01:28:23.980 I think the real purpose of the environmental movement is to abolish 01:28:23.980 --> 01:28:27.460 private property, which is Karl Marx's first plank on the Communist Manifesto. 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:30.320 They want you to have to get a permit to cut down a tree on your own property. 01:28:31.300 --> 01:28:33.680 And that's another long, interesting question about permits. 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:39.040 We cover that a lot more on our college class, CSE 104, I believe, of our college 01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:40.280 classes we offer here through our ministry. 01:28:41.120 --> 01:28:41.860 Next question. 01:28:43.280 --> 01:28:46.660 Doesn't the Green River Formation prove the Earth is millions of years old? 01:28:47.400 --> 01:28:48.280 No, it doesn't. 01:28:48.920 --> 01:28:54.800 The Green River in northwestern United States has a lot of layers of rock around 01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:54.940 it. 01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:56.660 This is called the Green River Formation. 01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:00.380 If you take two pieces of glass with different colored sand in between, 01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:03.820 like you can buy at the mall, and you flip it over, it automatically sorts into many 01:29:03.820 --> 01:29:04.460 different layers. 01:29:05.220 --> 01:29:08.620 If you only have two densities of sand in there, the black and the white are two 01:29:08.620 --> 01:29:10.740 different densities, why does it make hundreds of layers? 01:29:11.780 --> 01:29:15.180 Well, you can take rock from the Green River Formation, which has millions of 01:29:15.180 --> 01:29:18.900 layers, grind it up to powder, sprinkle it in moving water, and it'll 01:29:18.900 --> 01:29:20.780 sort into hundreds of layers again. 01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:24.240 Here you have only two densities, and yet it makes hundreds of layers. 01:29:25.020 --> 01:29:28.460 So, it's not proof these layers are annual deposits or anything else. 01:29:29.540 --> 01:29:30.960 It's proof that it was moving water. 01:29:31.900 --> 01:29:35.560 Actually, when they drilled into this rock in the Green River Formation, they find 01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:37.800 what's called an event horizon, a layer of ash. 01:29:38.420 --> 01:29:42.060 Sometimes, between two event horizons, they find a number of layers, and they go 01:29:42.060 --> 01:29:46.100 over and drill again, and they find up to 30% difference, 35% different number of 01:29:46.100 --> 01:29:46.380 layers. 01:29:47.500 --> 01:29:49.440 It can't be annual layers. 01:29:49.560 --> 01:29:52.140 Okay, the Green River does not prove the earth is millions of years old. 01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.320 Next question, what about the Mars rock? 01:29:56.060 --> 01:29:58.360 This article says, are we really Martians? 01:29:58.900 --> 01:30:01.240 Can't believe they cut down a tree to print that in a newspaper. 01:30:03.100 --> 01:30:09.400 Anyway, the Mars lander landed on untested Martian soil. 01:30:09.820 --> 01:30:14.280 The sophisticated equipment did not even find a trace of a germ, according to NASA. 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:18.640 This is the rock that became the big news article years ago. 01:30:19.300 --> 01:30:22.440 This rock was in a closet NASA had found. 01:30:22.580 --> 01:30:26.380 Somebody had found it near the South Pole, and they said it might be a meteor from 01:30:26.380 --> 01:30:26.920 Mars. 01:30:28.200 --> 01:30:32.020 This little bitty line right there was what this stir was all about. 01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:36.820 They said, wow, this might prove there was bacteria or life on Mars. 01:30:37.620 --> 01:30:40.880 Well, the problem is, Mars is a long ways from the earth, okay? 01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:45.100 The closest it ever gets is about 50 million miles. 01:30:45.340 --> 01:30:46.460 That's the closest it gets. 01:30:48.220 --> 01:30:51.820 If you shrank the earth and Mars down and made up a couple of tomatoes to get the 01:30:51.820 --> 01:30:54.320 right scale here, Earth would be a four-inch tomato and Mars would be a 01:30:54.320 --> 01:30:54.940 two-inch tomato. 01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:59.180 The closest they get at that scale is about a third of a mile apart, 01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:00.900 going around the sun. 01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:06.140 The idea that something hit Mars and knocked a chunk off and it flew all the 01:31:06.140 --> 01:31:08.860 way to Earth and landed is silly. 01:31:09.240 --> 01:31:11.540 Chances of that is real close to zero, okay? 01:31:12.160 --> 01:31:13.880 Here's some facts to consider about the Mars rock. 01:31:13.980 --> 01:31:15.360 Number one, they claim it came from Mars. 01:31:15.400 --> 01:31:15.980 We don't know that. 01:31:16.120 --> 01:31:19.920 Number two, they claim it broke off 16 million years ago and landed 13,000 years 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:20.200 ago. 01:31:21.080 --> 01:31:22.340 What did this bacteria eat? 01:31:23.060 --> 01:31:24.480 How did it survive the impact? 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:26.380 How did it survive the vacuum of space? 01:31:26.460 --> 01:31:28.480 How did it survive the entry, the reentry? 01:31:29.040 --> 01:31:30.020 Well, it would have certainly burned. 01:31:30.460 --> 01:31:32.160 The freezing for 13,000 years. 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:36.680 A NASA-funded team did the research and the NASA grant money was stalled in 01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:38.380 Congress at the time this was going on. 01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:45.320 NASA had to find something to make themselves look useful and so they called 01:31:45.320 --> 01:31:48.760 up this Mars rock and the grant money was immediately released as soon as the Mars 01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:49.880 rock finding was announced. 01:31:50.660 --> 01:31:53.980 And then shortly thereafter they said, oops, it's not really a bacteria. 01:31:54.300 --> 01:31:56.820 This is a normal carbonate crystal that forms. 01:31:56.940 --> 01:31:58.320 It's a simple geologic process. 01:31:58.480 --> 01:31:59.940 It's not a life at all. 01:32:00.700 --> 01:32:02.540 But they kept the grant money, of course. 01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:04.980 So that was the real purpose of it. 01:32:05.320 --> 01:32:07.200 The Bible says Eve is the mother of all living. 01:32:07.340 --> 01:32:09.600 I do not think there's life on any other planets except Earth. 01:32:09.700 --> 01:32:12.960 I couldn't prove that, but anybody who thinks there is is arguing from the 01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:13.700 negative position. 01:32:14.020 --> 01:32:15.580 Nobody has seen any life anywhere else. 01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:17.980 We know of eight other planets here in our solar system. 01:32:18.080 --> 01:32:18.920 There's no life on those. 01:32:19.140 --> 01:32:21.280 So I think we're it, folks. 01:32:21.320 --> 01:32:21.700 This is it. 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:22.940 God did this just for us. 01:32:23.780 --> 01:32:24.280 Next question. 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:25.980 What about theistic evolution? 01:32:26.220 --> 01:32:28.260 Couldn't God use evolution to get us here? 01:32:29.160 --> 01:32:31.640 I was in a debate one time and afterwards this man came up to me and he said, 01:32:31.700 --> 01:32:34.440 boy, you don't give much room to us folks who believe God used evolution, 01:32:34.540 --> 01:32:34.780 do you? 01:32:35.160 --> 01:32:35.960 I said, no, sir. 01:32:36.020 --> 01:32:37.100 I don't give you any room at all. 01:32:37.460 --> 01:32:38.940 I think you've got a retarded God. 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:41.800 So if somebody says, could God use evolution? 01:32:41.940 --> 01:32:43.700 I say, well, that depends on what you mean by God. 01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:45.020 It's certainly not the God of the Bible. 01:32:47.180 --> 01:32:51.500 The God that would use evolution or need to use evolution is cruel, he's wasteful, 01:32:51.580 --> 01:32:53.120 he's stupid, and he's deceitful. 01:32:53.340 --> 01:32:54.900 He's not the God of the Bible. 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:59.380 It's not the character of God to use misfits and blind chance and death. 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.980 My God gets it right first time. 01:33:02.820 --> 01:33:06.900 Jacques Monod, a Nobel Prize winner, said, natural selection is the blindest, 01:33:06.980 --> 01:33:10.680 most cruel way of evolving new species and more and more complex and refined 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:11.200 organisms. 01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.220 He said, the struggle for life and elimination of the weakest is a horrible 01:33:15.220 --> 01:33:18.960 process against which our whole modern ethics revolts. 01:33:21.480 --> 01:33:26.300 An ideal society is a non-selective society, one where the weak is protected, 01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:29.740 which is exactly the reverse of the so-called natural law. 01:33:30.480 --> 01:33:33.760 He said, I'm surprised that a Christian would defend the idea that this is the 01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:36.740 process which God more or less set up to have evolution. 01:33:37.420 --> 01:33:38.280 I agree, Jacques. 01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.260 Christians ought to be ashamed of themselves if they're saying God used 01:33:41.260 --> 01:33:42.260 evolution to get us here. 01:33:42.320 --> 01:33:43.440 That's a cruel God. 01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:50.180 David Hall says, whatever the God implied by evolutionary theory and the data of 01:33:50.180 --> 01:33:54.340 natural history may be, he is not the Protestant God of waste not want not. 01:33:54.660 --> 01:33:57.760 He's also not a loving God who cares about his productions. 01:33:58.380 --> 01:34:00.820 He's not even the awful God portrayed in the book of Job. 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:05.640 The God of Galapagos is careless, wasteful, indifferent, almost diabolical. 01:34:06.080 --> 01:34:09.660 He is certainly not the sort of God to whom anyone would be inclined to pray. 01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:12.580 I agree, it's not the God of the Bible. 01:34:13.360 --> 01:34:16.880 Darwin's philosophy of evolution is summed up here in his book. 01:34:16.940 --> 01:34:22.260 He said, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted 01:34:22.260 --> 01:34:26.300 object we are capable of conceiving, namely the production of higher animals, 01:34:26.320 --> 01:34:27.120 directly follows. 01:34:27.940 --> 01:34:32.680 Darwin thought that war, suffering, famine, and death was a wonderful process 01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:34.820 because that's how we get evolution. 01:34:35.820 --> 01:34:36.640 Well, Darwin's right. 01:34:36.740 --> 01:34:38.480 If his theory was right, that's how it would work. 01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:40.260 If he's wrong, it didn't happen. 01:34:40.780 --> 01:34:42.440 And that's not the way God would do it. 01:34:42.740 --> 01:34:44.880 My Bible says God's work is perfect. 01:34:45.260 --> 01:34:46.200 He does it right. 01:34:47.040 --> 01:34:49.400 The God that would use this evolution is wasteful. 01:34:49.480 --> 01:34:50.500 He's deceitful. 01:34:51.240 --> 01:34:56.880 The clear evidence shows there was a creation, a very wise creator designed 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:57.360 this place. 01:34:57.700 --> 01:35:00.700 So, I would say this is not the God of the Bible. 01:35:01.280 --> 01:35:03.720 It's not the kind of God you'd want to worship. 01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:06.120 God makes things perfect. 01:35:06.300 --> 01:35:07.860 He said He told it by His Word. 01:35:07.940 --> 01:35:10.500 He made it in six days, Exodus chapter 20. 01:35:11.160 --> 01:35:13.180 And He rested on the seventh day. 01:35:13.380 --> 01:35:17.020 The Bible clearly teaches six day creation, one day of rest. 01:35:17.380 --> 01:35:21.060 And Hebrews tell us His work was finished from the foundation of the world. 01:35:21.480 --> 01:35:22.040 He was done. 01:35:23.140 --> 01:35:24.240 He's not letting things evolve. 01:35:24.300 --> 01:35:28.100 Slowly He finished it in six days and He rested on the seventh day, Hebrews chapter 01:35:28.100 --> 01:35:28.400 4. 01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.180 It says He ended His work in Genesis chapter 2. 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:35.840 He ended His work on the seventh day. 01:35:36.040 --> 01:35:36.600 It's over with. 01:35:36.660 --> 01:35:37.040 It's done. 01:35:37.420 --> 01:35:38.460 It's not ongoing. 01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:40.280 There is no evolution happening today at all. 01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:44.200 Romans chapter 5 tells us that death came because of man's sin. 01:35:45.140 --> 01:35:48.020 1 Corinthians 15 says man brought death into the world. 01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.460 Genesis 1 says God made man in His image. 01:35:52.300 --> 01:35:54.300 Any other teaching besides that is heresy. 01:35:54.700 --> 01:35:59.480 So if someone wants to teach that God used evolution, they're heretic according to 01:35:59.480 --> 01:35:59.720 Scripture. 01:36:00.080 --> 01:36:01.800 They're not teaching what the Scripture clearly teaches. 01:36:02.380 --> 01:36:05.080 Lastly, that's a retarded God. 01:36:05.740 --> 01:36:08.160 If He has to use evolution, it means He doesn't know what He wants. 01:36:08.240 --> 01:36:09.980 He's just playing around blind chance. 01:36:10.020 --> 01:36:11.220 It's not the God of the Bible. 01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:14.080 And that would nullify the need for the death of Christ. 01:36:15.180 --> 01:36:17.040 And there is no evidence for evolution anyway. 01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:20.620 So why would we take a perfectly good Bible, which has never been proven wrong, 01:36:20.900 --> 01:36:24.040 and try to compromise it with a dumb theory that's never been proven right? 01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:26.080 There is no evidence for evolution. 01:36:26.440 --> 01:36:28.080 So stick with the Bible. 01:36:28.140 --> 01:36:29.700 The Bible is absolutely correct as it's written. 01:36:30.340 --> 01:36:32.800 Some people say, doesn't evolution theory match what the Bible teaches? 01:36:32.980 --> 01:36:34.640 It's exactly the opposite. 01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:37.680 The Bible says man brought death into the world. 01:36:38.360 --> 01:36:40.220 Evolution says death brought man into the world. 01:36:41.820 --> 01:36:44.040 The Bible has the earth coming before the sun. 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:46.460 Evolution has the sun coming before the earth. 01:36:47.100 --> 01:36:49.540 The Bible has oceans developing before the land. 01:36:50.120 --> 01:36:52.780 Yet evolution has the land coming before the oceans. 01:36:53.540 --> 01:36:55.220 The Bible has light before the sun. 01:36:55.300 --> 01:36:56.760 Evolution has sun before the light. 01:36:57.500 --> 01:36:59.240 The Bible has land plants first. 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:01.180 Evolution has marine life first. 01:37:02.060 --> 01:37:04.300 The Bible has fruit trees coming before the fish. 01:37:04.420 --> 01:37:06.380 Evolution has fish coming before fruit trees. 01:37:06.740 --> 01:37:08.260 The Bible has fish before insects. 01:37:08.460 --> 01:37:09.320 Evolution is backwards. 01:37:09.860 --> 01:37:11.500 The Bible has plants before the sun. 01:37:11.620 --> 01:37:12.540 Evolution is Evolution is backwards. 01:37:13.020 --> 01:37:15.200 The Bible has marine mammals before land mammals. 01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:16.240 Evolution is backwards. 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:18.520 The Bible has birds before reptiles. 01:37:18.580 --> 01:37:20.260 Atmosphere between two layers of water. 01:37:20.940 --> 01:37:23.420 And evolution has atmosphere above the water. 01:37:24.460 --> 01:37:25.100 No, I'm sorry. 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:27.280 The Bible does not match evolution. 01:37:27.420 --> 01:37:28.440 They are polar opposites. 01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:30.920 Somebody is wrong and I happen to know who it is. 01:37:31.120 --> 01:37:32.060 The Bible is right. 01:37:33.160 --> 01:37:39.260 In 1828, Webster's Dictionary defined heresy as something that is an error of 01:37:39.260 --> 01:37:41.940 opinion respecting some fundamental doctrine. 01:37:42.320 --> 01:37:44.520 The standard of Scripture was the standard of faith. 01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:48.160 Any opinion that is repugnant to its doctrines is heresy. 01:37:48.860 --> 01:37:51.680 And the Bible clearly teaches God made the world in six days. 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:54.060 Anything other than that is heresy according to Scripture. 01:37:54.580 --> 01:37:57.020 Someone who is a heretic is a person who teaches a heresy. 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:00.360 And so those people teaching this in my humble unbiased opinion are heretics. 01:38:00.540 --> 01:38:05.640 Alright, here we have a picture of ham, ribs, chicken, and turkey. 01:38:06.980 --> 01:38:09.200 All of these have several things in common. 01:38:10.540 --> 01:38:14.920 All of them have some good meat and each of them has bones. 01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:18.480 You have to learn early in life to eat the meat and spit out the bones or you're 01:38:18.480 --> 01:38:19.340 going to choke on something. 01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:23.020 So just because somebody is a heretic in one area doesn't mean you can't learn 01:38:23.020 --> 01:38:24.520 something from their material anyway. 01:38:24.820 --> 01:38:27.020 I read stuff by people I disagree with on some things. 01:38:27.480 --> 01:38:29.900 I think they're wrong, but hey, they've got good things in some areas. 01:38:30.380 --> 01:38:33.140 I think Hugh Ross, what he teaches is he's got some good material in some areas, 01:38:33.260 --> 01:38:34.980 but I think he's a heretic in some other areas. 01:38:35.040 --> 01:38:36.760 He's teaching things that I think are clearly heresy. 01:38:37.300 --> 01:38:39.100 We have a debate with Hugh Ross on videotape. 01:38:39.200 --> 01:38:40.640 You can get our whole series if you'd like to get that. 01:38:42.740 --> 01:38:44.980 Next question, what about these other religions out there? 01:38:44.980 --> 01:38:45.820 How do we know who's right? 01:38:46.020 --> 01:38:47.160 Well, this would take hours. 01:38:47.260 --> 01:38:49.480 We're not going to produce a whole videotape on that yet, but someday we 01:38:49.480 --> 01:38:49.660 will. 01:38:50.180 --> 01:38:51.280 Which religion is right? 01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:54.980 The Bible warned us to be careful about being carried about with every wind of 01:38:54.980 --> 01:38:55.400 doctrine. 01:38:57.040 --> 01:39:01.000 And he that cometh first in his own cause seemeth just. 01:39:01.640 --> 01:39:04.400 The first person that comes along says, well, he's got a good answer there. 01:39:04.740 --> 01:39:07.480 But his neighbor cometh and searcheth him out, it says in Proverbs 18. 01:39:08.060 --> 01:39:11.340 So some ideas, some religious ideas sound great the first time you hear them. 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:14.480 But then you've got to really search it out, study the scriptures like the Bereans 01:39:14.480 --> 01:39:16.380 and say, oh, wait a minute, that's not correct. 01:39:17.500 --> 01:39:21.300 Genesis 27 shows how Jacob told his father, he said, I am Esau. 01:39:21.840 --> 01:39:23.880 And he brought him some venison. 01:39:24.020 --> 01:39:26.920 It wasn't venison, it was lamb meat that he brought him. 01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:29.040 But Jacob was tricked. 01:39:30.140 --> 01:39:32.560 I'm sorry, his father Isaac was tricked. 01:39:32.980 --> 01:39:35.960 He couldn't see, he was blind, but he felt the wool on the back of his 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:37.440 hands and the back of his neck. 01:39:38.140 --> 01:39:40.720 He got the wool pulled over his eyes is where the expression comes from. 01:39:41.320 --> 01:39:45.640 He was tricked precisely because he went by the feelings instead of by the written, 01:39:45.800 --> 01:39:47.160 by the word, by the voice. 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:50.800 And I think a lot of churches today, people get tricked because they go by 01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:52.760 feelings instead of by the word. 01:39:53.360 --> 01:39:55.320 They'll say, well, I just feel like God is in this. 01:39:55.420 --> 01:39:56.600 Well, now what's the Bible say? 01:39:57.160 --> 01:39:59.960 Oh, I don't know what the Bible says, but I just feel like He's in this. 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:04.400 Just be real cautious if you're in a church that emphasizes feelings above the 01:40:04.400 --> 01:40:05.160 word of God. 01:40:05.900 --> 01:40:08.300 You can feel great by taking drugs, they tell me. 01:40:08.320 --> 01:40:09.180 I don't know, I've never done it. 01:40:09.660 --> 01:40:11.440 But that doesn't mean it's right, okay? 01:40:11.460 --> 01:40:12.460 It doesn't mean it's of God. 01:40:13.220 --> 01:40:14.260 Don't trust feelings. 01:40:14.380 --> 01:40:17.200 Airplane pilots will tell you, you can fly into a cloud and you'll feel 01:40:17.200 --> 01:40:20.340 like you're going straight when actually you're falling and don't even know it 01:40:20.340 --> 01:40:22.740 because you can lose all sense of direction in a cloud. 01:40:22.860 --> 01:40:24.940 I've experienced that myself, flying into clouds. 01:40:25.200 --> 01:40:27.860 So don't go by feelings, you go by the word. 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:32.400 Genesis 27 is a good chapter to see how he was tricked by the feeling instead of 01:40:32.400 --> 01:40:33.060 going by the word. 01:40:34.020 --> 01:40:34.580 Next question. 01:40:35.660 --> 01:40:37.220 They'll say, well, didn't the Pope accept evolution? 01:40:37.540 --> 01:40:38.220 Yes, he did. 01:40:38.480 --> 01:40:41.420 Many times they've admitted that evolution is the way God did it. 01:40:41.460 --> 01:40:43.680 That's what the Catholic official doctrine is. 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:48.320 This article from 96 says, Pope accepts evolution and creates furor. 01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:54.080 This Catholic nun and scientist and educator says that spirituality and 01:40:54.080 --> 01:40:54.980 science mesh. 01:40:55.680 --> 01:41:00.740 She said, the people who believe in this creation myth, which is unscientific and 01:41:00.740 --> 01:41:04.520 not in the Bible, despite what they say, haven't really studied theology and don't 01:41:04.520 --> 01:41:06.620 know that the Bible is not a scientific work. 01:41:07.900 --> 01:41:09.020 This is heresy. 01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:11.820 She needs to get saved or get right with God. 01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:15.280 And it's not true that the Bible and science have a conflict. 01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:19.060 It's true that the Bible and evolution have a conflict, but evolution isn't 01:41:19.060 --> 01:41:19.500 science. 01:41:20.460 --> 01:41:24.600 Basically, now I love the Catholics and want to win them to the Lord, but the 01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:27.020 Catholic Church has a long history of teaching things that are just simply 01:41:27.020 --> 01:41:27.480 silly. 01:41:28.220 --> 01:41:33.420 Back under Pope John XXII, back in the 1200s and 1300s, they had a list of things 01:41:33.420 --> 01:41:36.800 you could pay in order to sin ahead of time as an indulgence. 01:41:37.280 --> 01:41:39.500 For $2.25 you could rob a church. 01:41:40.040 --> 01:41:41.700 For $2.75 you could burn a house. 01:41:41.700 --> 01:41:43.520 If you killed a layman it cost you $1.75. 01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:45.660 If you did forgery and lying it cost $2.00. 01:41:45.900 --> 01:41:48.340 If you eat meat and lent it cost you $2.75. 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:50.680 If you ravish a virgin that cost you $2.00. 01:41:51.180 --> 01:41:52.960 If you strike a priest that's $2.75. 01:41:53.140 --> 01:41:54.040 Now robbery is $3.00. 01:41:54.900 --> 01:41:56.900 A priest keeping a mistress cost $2.25. 01:41:57.940 --> 01:41:59.640 Procuring an abortion was $1.50. 01:41:59.860 --> 01:42:01.780 Murdering of parents or wife is $2.50. 01:42:02.180 --> 01:42:04.280 You could be absolved of all crimes for $12.00. 01:42:06.400 --> 01:42:09.080 Augustine declared prostitution was a necessary evil. 01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:13.840 And soon thereafter the church had 100,000 prostitutes employed by the Catholic 01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:14.320 Church. 01:42:14.900 --> 01:42:15.900 I love Catholics. 01:42:16.220 --> 01:42:18.000 I hate what they teach in many areas. 01:42:18.120 --> 01:42:19.520 They need to get right with God. 01:42:20.220 --> 01:42:22.300 Here's a picture of a Pope kissing the Koran. 01:42:22.780 --> 01:42:26.040 We could spend hours talking about the Islam and the other religions. 01:42:26.580 --> 01:42:29.540 We have a great book we sell in our bookstore called The Prophet by Jack 01:42:29.540 --> 01:42:30.160 Chick's Ministry. 01:42:30.780 --> 01:42:34.800 You can get it about the history of how the Catholic Church was involved in the 01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:38.280 creation of Islam in order to try to get the Holy Land back. 01:42:38.840 --> 01:42:43.060 It backfired on them and now we have these two religions, Islam and Catholicism. 01:42:44.040 --> 01:42:46.220 But actually Catholicism started the Church of Islam. 01:42:46.340 --> 01:42:47.420 We could spend hours on that one. 01:42:48.580 --> 01:42:49.140 Next question. 01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:50.420 What do Muslims believe? 01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:53.260 People say, isn't Allah the same as the God of the Bible? 01:42:54.300 --> 01:42:55.600 No, absolutely not. 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.980 Allah is a false god and is not the God of the Bible. 01:42:59.220 --> 01:43:01.380 Again, get the book The Prophet if you want to get more on that. 01:43:01.920 --> 01:43:05.160 Muslims knew Muhammad was a prophet because he had a mole on his back. 01:43:05.260 --> 01:43:06.540 That was the sign he was a prophet. 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:07.300 He had a mole. 01:43:07.820 --> 01:43:08.540 Holy moly! 01:43:08.620 --> 01:43:09.760 Where do we get something like that anyway? 01:43:10.820 --> 01:43:14.760 The Koran says, when he, this man, I can't pronounce his name, reached the 01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:17.780 setting of the sun, he found that it set in a pond of murky water. 01:43:18.300 --> 01:43:21.260 The Koran teaches the sun goes down and sets in a pond of water. 01:43:21.820 --> 01:43:23.560 This is scientifically inaccurate. 01:43:23.900 --> 01:43:24.840 That's not what happens. 01:43:25.340 --> 01:43:29.300 The Koran is loaded with things that are scientifically and spiritually false. 01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:30.040 Inaccurate. 01:43:30.180 --> 01:43:30.680 They're wrong. 01:43:31.300 --> 01:43:35.760 The Koran commands, Allah said, any person who leaves Islam or encourages 01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:38.100 others to do so should be seized and slain. 01:43:39.200 --> 01:43:42.620 Allah told Muhammad that all those who opposed his message should be killed or 01:43:42.620 --> 01:43:47.420 they should be nailed to a tree or their hands and legs should be cut off. 01:43:49.280 --> 01:43:53.540 The Koran teaches when you meet or fight those who disbelieve, strike at their 01:43:53.540 --> 01:43:56.160 necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them. 01:43:56.160 --> 01:43:59.340 You're supposed to kill the heretics if they don't believe in the Koran and Allah. 01:43:59.940 --> 01:44:01.880 There's a great book called, Who is this Allah? 01:44:02.160 --> 01:44:02.940 by Moshe. 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:03.880 We sell it in our bookstore. 01:44:05.020 --> 01:44:08.840 They say, the Koran says, the last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the 01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:11.040 Jews and the Muslims kill them. 01:44:13.240 --> 01:44:20.200 The Prophet said, Allah created Adam making him 60 cubits tall. 01:44:20.340 --> 01:44:21.620 That's 90 feet. 01:44:23.540 --> 01:44:28.000 The third surah, verse 105 and 106 says, in the great and final day of redemption 01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:32.020 only white faces will be saved, all blackened faces will be condemned. 01:44:32.660 --> 01:44:33.640 This is what they teach. 01:44:34.660 --> 01:44:38.180 They say, men marry as many women as you like, one, two, three or four. 01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:41.440 Under Islam you can have up to four wives at a time. 01:44:42.520 --> 01:44:46.020 And if you have temporary marriages you can get married for 15 minutes. 01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:50.720 That's pornography is what it is. 01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:51.480 It's perverted. 01:44:53.440 --> 01:44:57.720 The Hadith here teaches that Satan stays in the upper part of the nose all night. 01:44:58.440 --> 01:44:59.420 That's the booger man. 01:45:01.060 --> 01:45:03.700 He said, you have to perform ablution. 01:45:04.140 --> 01:45:07.480 You have to wash out your nose three times in the morning with water because the 01:45:07.480 --> 01:45:10.120 devil spends the night in the interior of the nose. 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:11.660 That's what they teach. 01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:16.300 One apostle said, people should avoid lifting their eyes toward the sky while 01:45:16.300 --> 01:45:17.360 supplicating in prayer. 01:45:17.480 --> 01:45:19.380 Otherwise their eyes would be snatched away. 01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:26.980 One guy reported that Allah's messenger told him that the non-Muslim eats in seven 01:45:26.980 --> 01:45:28.840 intestines while the Muslim has one. 01:45:29.400 --> 01:45:31.180 So if you're not a Muslim you have seven intestines. 01:45:31.480 --> 01:45:33.080 This is silly. 01:45:33.380 --> 01:45:34.100 It's not true. 01:45:34.780 --> 01:45:39.240 Don Boyce has an excellent book called America's Trojan Horse about Islam and 01:45:39.240 --> 01:45:40.880 what a dangerous religion this is. 01:45:41.060 --> 01:45:43.900 Now look, I'm not anti-Muslim for the people. 01:45:44.220 --> 01:45:45.360 I'm anti-what they teach. 01:45:45.840 --> 01:45:46.680 I'm for truth. 01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:47.700 I'm against error. 01:45:47.920 --> 01:45:48.980 Even if it's my own mother. 01:45:49.340 --> 01:45:53.500 If she's 99% right and 1% wrong, I'll praise her for the 99% and say, 01:45:53.560 --> 01:45:54.640 Mom, you're wrong on the 1%. 01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:56.960 So I'm not anti-anybody. 01:45:57.300 --> 01:45:58.680 I'm anti-error. 01:45:58.940 --> 01:46:00.360 And what they teach is error. 01:46:00.480 --> 01:46:01.160 It's not true. 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:04.580 Remember it was the Muslims that bombed Pan Am Flight 103. 01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:07.160 It was the Muslims that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. 01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:09.740 It was the Muslims that bombed the Marine Barracks in Lebanon. 01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:11.900 They bombed military barracks in Saudi Arabia. 01:46:12.400 --> 01:46:14.160 They bombed the American Embassy in Africa. 01:46:14.340 --> 01:46:15.780 They bombed the USS Cole. 01:46:16.260 --> 01:46:18.180 They bombed the Twin Towers, 9-11. 01:46:19.480 --> 01:46:20.340 This is a danger. 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:24.960 You cannot be a good Muslim without wanting to kill everybody else who's not a 01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:25.180 Muslim. 01:46:25.280 --> 01:46:26.520 That's what the Koran commands. 01:46:27.200 --> 01:46:30.400 So get out of that religion and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior. 01:46:31.400 --> 01:46:32.260 Okay, next question. 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:33.920 Are there contradictions in the Bible? 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:40.040 As a young Christian, I just got saved February 1969, and my parents sent me to 01:46:40.040 --> 01:46:41.200 the Methodist church camp. 01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:44.440 I'd started going to a little independent temperamental Baptist church and was 01:46:44.440 --> 01:46:46.360 really getting on fire and radical for the Lord. 01:46:47.060 --> 01:46:49.660 And they wanted to calm me down a little bit, so I went to this Methodist church 01:46:49.660 --> 01:46:49.900 camp. 01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:52.960 And the counselor there sat us guys down in the cabin. 01:46:53.080 --> 01:46:54.740 He said, Okay, guys, I'm your counselor for the week. 01:46:55.140 --> 01:46:57.340 He said, I want you to know I go to Illinois State University. 01:46:57.840 --> 01:46:59.080 And he said, I'm a humanist. 01:47:00.460 --> 01:47:03.340 Well, I didn't know what a humanist was, so I said, does that mean you believe in 01:47:03.340 --> 01:47:03.540 humans? 01:47:04.580 --> 01:47:06.840 He said, well, I do believe in humans, but no, that's not what that means. 01:47:07.560 --> 01:47:08.880 I said, well, do you believe the Bible? 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:10.260 He said, no. 01:47:11.320 --> 01:47:13.700 He said, the Bible's a good book, but it contains contradictions. 01:47:15.160 --> 01:47:18.300 I'd only been saved a couple of months, but my preacher said, if somebody tells 01:47:18.300 --> 01:47:20.320 you that, hand them your Bible and say, show me one. 01:47:20.980 --> 01:47:22.780 So I handed him my Bible and said, show me one. 01:47:23.540 --> 01:47:24.340 He said, I'd be glad to. 01:47:25.100 --> 01:47:26.640 He said, turn to Genesis chapter 1. 01:47:26.780 --> 01:47:27.460 Here's what he showed me. 01:47:27.520 --> 01:47:28.640 I'd been a Christian a couple of months. 01:47:30.440 --> 01:47:34.280 He said, Genesis 1 tells us on verse 12 that God made the trees, the grass, 01:47:34.340 --> 01:47:35.680 the plants on the third day. 01:47:36.340 --> 01:47:36.860 Is that right? 01:47:36.980 --> 01:47:37.920 I said, yep, that's right. 01:47:38.040 --> 01:47:39.380 Plants, grass, trees on day 3. 01:47:40.180 --> 01:47:41.320 He said, now look at verse 20. 01:47:42.140 --> 01:47:45.040 Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, 01:47:45.100 --> 01:47:46.840 and fowl that may fly above the earth. 01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:51.080 He said, Kent, on day 5 God made the birds out of the water. 01:47:51.180 --> 01:47:51.820 Is that correct? 01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:53.980 I said, yep, that's correct. 01:47:54.200 --> 01:47:55.300 Remember He made Adam out of the dirt. 01:47:55.360 --> 01:47:56.240 He made Eve out of a rib. 01:47:56.300 --> 01:47:57.440 He made the birds out of the water. 01:47:58.020 --> 01:47:58.640 That's what it says. 01:47:59.480 --> 01:48:03.180 Verse 24, God said, let the earth bring forth the living creature. 01:48:03.660 --> 01:48:05.200 So the animals are made out of the dirt. 01:48:05.580 --> 01:48:06.420 Birds are made out of the water. 01:48:06.980 --> 01:48:08.840 And then He made man in verse 26. 01:48:09.500 --> 01:48:10.680 So he said, Kent, is this right? 01:48:11.040 --> 01:48:12.260 Trees made on day 3. 01:48:14.140 --> 01:48:15.800 Birds made out of the water on day 5. 01:48:16.500 --> 01:48:17.400 Then animals made. 01:48:17.480 --> 01:48:18.920 And then man was created last. 01:48:18.980 --> 01:48:19.820 Is that correct? 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:21.340 I said, yes sir, that's correct. 01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:23.540 He said, now look at chapter 2. 01:48:24.700 --> 01:48:26.280 Genesis chapter 2 verse 7. 01:48:27.100 --> 01:48:29.320 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground. 01:48:30.300 --> 01:48:32.780 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden. 01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:34.580 And there He put the man whom He had formed. 01:48:35.100 --> 01:48:37.780 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree. 01:48:38.140 --> 01:48:39.460 He said, Kent, stop right there. 01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:40.300 You have a contradiction. 01:48:41.180 --> 01:48:43.120 Chapter 1 has trees made before man. 01:48:43.400 --> 01:48:45.620 Chapter 2 has man made and then the trees. 01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:47.720 He said, look down at verse 18. 01:48:48.640 --> 01:48:50.920 The Lord God said, it's not good that the man should be alone. 01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.900 I will make him and help meet for him and out of the ground the Lord God formed 01:48:54.900 --> 01:48:58.460 every beast of the field and every fowl of the air and brought them to Adam to see 01:48:58.460 --> 01:48:59.460 what He would call them. 01:49:00.280 --> 01:49:01.700 He said, here we have another contradiction. 01:49:02.300 --> 01:49:06.640 Now the birds are made out of the ground and they are made after man, not before 01:49:06.640 --> 01:49:06.880 man. 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:08.200 You have two contradictions here. 01:49:08.720 --> 01:49:10.180 Here are the supposed contradictions. 01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:13.100 Chapter 1 has plants, grass, trees made on day 3. 01:49:13.440 --> 01:49:16.100 Chapter 2 has plants, grass, trees made on day 6. 01:49:16.680 --> 01:49:19.240 Chapter 1 has birds made out of the water on day 5. 01:49:19.420 --> 01:49:22.100 Chapter 2 has birds made out of the ground on day 6. 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:24.580 Chapter 1 has animals made before man. 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:26.840 Chapter 2 has animals made after man. 01:49:27.860 --> 01:49:29.600 He said, Kent, the Bible is a good book. 01:49:29.660 --> 01:49:31.980 I'm glad you like it, but it has contradictions. 01:49:33.020 --> 01:49:34.300 I was a brand new Christian. 01:49:34.460 --> 01:49:38.580 I did not know how to answer him and I felt I just lost this argument. 01:49:39.240 --> 01:49:42.960 I don't know if you've ever been there before, but I thought, man, I lost. 01:49:43.620 --> 01:49:44.240 I'm done. 01:49:45.020 --> 01:49:45.700 I was frustrated. 01:49:46.180 --> 01:49:47.440 I was ready to give up on Christianity. 01:49:49.020 --> 01:49:50.080 I wish I could find that guy now. 01:49:50.140 --> 01:49:52.080 If you get this tape, listen to this. 01:49:52.220 --> 01:49:53.280 There is no contradiction there. 01:49:53.800 --> 01:49:54.980 Here is the sequence of events. 01:49:55.880 --> 01:49:57.380 On day 3 God made the plants. 01:49:58.040 --> 01:50:00.160 On day 5 He made the birds out of the water. 01:50:00.960 --> 01:50:03.720 On day 6 He made the animals and then He made man. 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:06.180 And then He put man in the garden. 01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:11.120 And now all of chapter 2 is describing what happened in the garden. 01:50:12.100 --> 01:50:14.140 Not describing the whole world, just in the garden. 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:18.440 In the garden He made trees that are good for food only. 01:50:18.520 --> 01:50:20.040 Not all the trees, just the ones good for food. 01:50:20.100 --> 01:50:21.780 The Bible says that specifically in chapter 2. 01:50:22.420 --> 01:50:26.080 He made one more of each animal so Adam could name them and select a wife. 01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:28.940 So Adam is in the garden. 01:50:29.460 --> 01:50:31.380 He's standing there and God makes the trees grow. 01:50:32.240 --> 01:50:36.800 And then He makes one more of each animal and Adam says, Hippopotamus, no thanks. 01:50:37.220 --> 01:50:38.420 Giraffe, no thanks. 01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:39.580 Elephant, no thanks. 01:50:40.040 --> 01:50:41.700 One by one God made another animal. 01:50:42.120 --> 01:50:43.960 Adam named him and said, I don't want to marry it. 01:50:45.180 --> 01:50:47.000 And then God said, Adam, you go to sleep son. 01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:48.840 I got a surprise for you when you wake up. 01:50:49.180 --> 01:50:51.000 And He put Adam to sleep, took out his rib and made Eve. 01:50:51.360 --> 01:50:52.220 So it is not a contradiction. 01:50:52.420 --> 01:50:56.700 Chapter 2 is describing what happened in the garden and it is all on day 6. 01:50:57.660 --> 01:50:59.140 There are no contradictions in Scripture. 01:51:00.160 --> 01:51:03.280 I remember as a young Christian, I was majoring in math and science and 01:51:03.280 --> 01:51:05.180 ended up teaching math and science for 15 years. 01:51:05.660 --> 01:51:07.340 I came across 2 Chronicles 4. 01:51:08.380 --> 01:51:13.160 It said Solomon made a molten sea, a big brass bowl, 10 cubits from brim to 01:51:13.160 --> 01:51:17.280 brim, round in compass and 5 cubits the height thereof and a line of 30 cubits did 01:51:17.280 --> 01:51:17.880 compass it about. 01:51:19.100 --> 01:51:21.820 I read that verse and said, hold on a minute, we've got a contradiction here. 01:51:22.580 --> 01:51:23.980 A cubit is elbow to fingertip. 01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:29.100 And it says this thing was 10 cubits across and 30 cubits around. 01:51:29.300 --> 01:51:30.700 Well, hey, I was going to teach math. 01:51:30.780 --> 01:51:37.300 I knew certainly, you know, you take pi times the diameter and pi is 3.14159265. 01:51:37.400 --> 01:51:39.960 You know, some Japanese guy figured it to 700 decimal places. 01:51:40.140 --> 01:51:41.000 I don't know why they do that. 01:51:42.060 --> 01:51:44.060 It is not just 3. 01:51:45.300 --> 01:51:47.800 So it should not have been 30 cubits around. 01:51:47.900 --> 01:51:50.920 It should have been 31.41 cubits around. 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:56.160 So I set my Bible down on my bed and I said, Lord, if there is a contradiction 01:51:56.160 --> 01:51:57.620 here, I quit. 01:51:58.740 --> 01:52:00.700 Here I am, a new Christian, public high school. 01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:01.700 The kids are making fun of me. 01:52:01.740 --> 01:52:02.520 I'm getting persecuted. 01:52:04.220 --> 01:52:05.480 Your book better be right. 01:52:05.780 --> 01:52:06.980 I'm quitting if it's not. 01:52:07.100 --> 01:52:08.060 It just bothered me. 01:52:08.080 --> 01:52:10.880 Maybe it doesn't bother you about the value of pi, but it bothered me. 01:52:11.940 --> 01:52:14.200 I read the story over and over and finally it jumped out at me. 01:52:14.480 --> 01:52:17.380 Verse 5 says the thickness of it was a hand breadth. 01:52:18.140 --> 01:52:18.780 This thick. 01:52:18.900 --> 01:52:19.520 That's a lot of brass. 01:52:21.740 --> 01:52:22.660 I thought, wait a minute. 01:52:22.880 --> 01:52:25.160 I wonder how a hand breadth compares to a cubit. 01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:28.280 So I went around and did a survey of a bunch of folks. 01:52:28.360 --> 01:52:30.000 I said, excuse me, can I measure your cubit? 01:52:31.200 --> 01:52:34.380 You know, put your elbow on the table and measure their cubit and measure their hand 01:52:34.380 --> 01:52:34.620 breadth. 01:52:35.240 --> 01:52:38.380 And I found out if you take two hand breadths away from ten cubits, 01:52:38.380 --> 01:52:41.100 you can calculate pi to 3.14159. 01:52:41.660 --> 01:52:44.760 It could be that they were measuring the diameter of this bowl, the outside 01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:48.880 dimensions, including the thickness of the brass, and the circumference was around 01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:49.340 the inside. 01:52:49.460 --> 01:52:50.080 That's one theory. 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:51.700 It certainly works fine. 01:52:52.260 --> 01:52:56.300 The second theory is that it had a lip on it and it was ten cubits to the outside 01:52:56.300 --> 01:52:59.900 diameter of the lip, but thirty cubits around the basic part of the bowl. 01:53:00.220 --> 01:53:01.700 Either one of those would solve the problem. 01:53:01.800 --> 01:53:02.900 It's not a problem. 01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:04.180 There's no contradictions in the Bible. 01:53:04.980 --> 01:53:08.540 Some people say, what about in 1 Kings, it says, Solomon had a molten sea that 01:53:08.540 --> 01:53:10.080 held two thousand baths. 01:53:10.180 --> 01:53:11.580 It's about eight gallons each for a bath. 01:53:12.120 --> 01:53:15.180 And yet 2 Chronicles says it held three thousand baths. 01:53:16.260 --> 01:53:20.360 Well, just because it could hold three thousand doesn't mean it always did. 01:53:20.960 --> 01:53:24.920 1 Kings says it contained two thousand baths. 01:53:25.360 --> 01:53:28.640 But 2 Chronicles says it received and held three thousand baths. 01:53:28.660 --> 01:53:31.020 They probably filled it up and emptied it many times, okay? 01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:34.260 Capable of holding three thousand, they normally put two thousand, 01:53:34.380 --> 01:53:35.640 and it's not a contradiction. 01:53:36.740 --> 01:53:40.180 It held three thousand baths, but it contained two thousand baths. 01:53:40.240 --> 01:53:40.560 Either one. 01:53:41.280 --> 01:53:44.220 All right, let's cover a few more contradictions after a short break. 01:53:49.810 --> 01:53:53.850 Okay, let's talk about a few more of the supposed contradictions in the Bible and 01:53:53.850 --> 01:53:56.770 then get into a few more questions that frequently come up in our seminars. 01:53:57.810 --> 01:54:02.790 Some people say there's a contradiction in the book of 1 Kings compared to 2 01:54:02.790 --> 01:54:03.330 Chronicles. 01:54:03.710 --> 01:54:10.830 In 1 Kings chapter 4, it says Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots 01:54:10.830 --> 01:54:12.250 and 12,000 horsemen. 01:54:12.870 --> 01:54:17.870 When you read the same parallel passage in 2 Chronicles 9, it says Solomon had 4,000 01:54:17.870 --> 01:54:20.590 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen. 01:54:21.090 --> 01:54:22.430 And people say, see, there's a contradiction. 01:54:22.910 --> 01:54:24.950 Was it 40,000 or 4,000? 01:54:25.230 --> 01:54:29.530 Even Henry Morris, whom I love dearly and highly respect his work, and we sell his 01:54:29.530 --> 01:54:32.530 Bible called the Defender's Bible, and I recommend it, but we put a 01:54:32.530 --> 01:54:36.010 disclaimer with it because he says right here at the bottom of these verses that 01:54:36.010 --> 01:54:39.510 there is an apparent contradiction because there's a copyist error. 01:54:40.310 --> 01:54:43.550 He says the people that were copying the Scriptures made an error and they missed a 01:54:43.550 --> 01:54:43.770 zero. 01:54:44.510 --> 01:54:47.090 Now, I love Henry Morris and ICR and all their work. 01:54:47.150 --> 01:54:49.790 I don't want to hurt him in any way, but he's simply wrong about this one. 01:54:50.950 --> 01:54:52.250 There's not a copyist error. 01:54:52.370 --> 01:54:53.910 Both verses are perfectly fine. 01:54:54.750 --> 01:54:55.650 There's no contradiction. 01:54:55.810 --> 01:54:56.630 Read it very carefully. 01:54:57.690 --> 01:55:02.910 It says Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots. 01:55:03.230 --> 01:55:09.290 The Chronicles passage says Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots. 01:55:10.430 --> 01:55:12.030 They had 10 horses per chariot. 01:55:12.810 --> 01:55:18.570 If he had 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots, he would need 4,000 stalls for 01:55:18.570 --> 01:55:19.910 the chariots and horses. 01:55:20.390 --> 01:55:22.330 He had 10 horses per chariot. 01:55:22.970 --> 01:55:26.210 The New International Version, NIV, got it wrong. 01:55:26.390 --> 01:55:27.050 They messed it up. 01:55:27.210 --> 01:55:28.730 The New American Standard got it right. 01:55:29.150 --> 01:55:30.870 The New Revised Standard got it wrong. 01:55:32.570 --> 01:55:34.270 Different versions have messed it up. 01:55:34.330 --> 01:55:35.430 It's perfectly fine like it is. 01:55:35.990 --> 01:55:37.150 How many men did David kill? 01:55:37.330 --> 01:55:41.590 When you compare 2 Samuel with 1 Chronicles, 2 Samuel says, the Syrians 01:55:41.590 --> 01:55:45.950 fled before Israel and David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians. 01:55:46.650 --> 01:55:50.350 When you read the passage in 1 Chronicles, it says the Syrians fled before Israel and 01:55:50.350 --> 01:55:53.590 David slew of the Syrians 7,000 men which fought in chariots. 01:55:54.770 --> 01:55:56.430 And people say, oh, there's a contradiction here. 01:55:56.450 --> 01:55:57.850 Was it 700 or 7,000? 01:55:58.790 --> 01:56:00.750 Both passages are perfectly fine. 01:56:01.390 --> 01:56:03.070 They had 10 men per chariot. 01:56:04.290 --> 01:56:09.450 They had 10 men and 10 horses because, you know, you have to have 10 horses in 01:56:09.450 --> 01:56:10.310 case you get a flat tire. 01:56:10.910 --> 01:56:13.890 The chariot horses are more likely to get shot than anything else. 01:56:13.930 --> 01:56:15.030 They are the biggest creature out there. 01:56:15.770 --> 01:56:17.430 And so the chariots are not going to get tired. 01:56:17.530 --> 01:56:18.570 The men and horses get tired. 01:56:18.630 --> 01:56:21.170 So they go out and fight for a while, come back, swap men, swap horses, 01:56:21.270 --> 01:56:22.030 go out and fight again. 01:56:22.570 --> 01:56:23.690 Not a contradiction at all. 01:56:24.050 --> 01:56:28.590 So if he slew the men of 700 chariots, he would slay 7,000 men which fought in 01:56:28.590 --> 01:56:28.830 chariots. 01:56:28.870 --> 01:56:30.310 It's perfectly fine just like it is. 01:56:30.990 --> 01:56:32.230 NIV got it wrong. 01:56:32.670 --> 01:56:34.970 They said David killed 700 of their charioteers. 01:56:35.450 --> 01:56:38.390 And in Chronicles it says David killed 7,000 of their charioteers. 01:56:38.450 --> 01:56:39.630 This is a clear contradiction. 01:56:40.210 --> 01:56:44.870 I would not want to defend any version of the Bible in a debate other than the King 01:56:44.870 --> 01:56:45.310 James. 01:56:46.350 --> 01:56:47.810 NIV standard got it wrong. 01:56:48.950 --> 01:56:55.030 Genesis 10 says these are the sons of Shem after their families, after their tongues 01:56:55.030 --> 01:56:56.850 in their lands, after their nations. 01:56:57.330 --> 01:57:00.710 So it says in chapter 10 that the earth was divided up into the different nations 01:57:00.710 --> 01:57:01.370 and languages. 01:57:01.870 --> 01:57:05.670 When you come to chapter 11 it says the whole earth was of one language and of one 01:57:05.670 --> 01:57:06.090 speech. 01:57:06.650 --> 01:57:08.970 One atheist I debated said, see there's a contradiction here. 01:57:09.770 --> 01:57:10.550 It's not a contradiction. 01:57:11.110 --> 01:57:13.150 Chapter 10 describes all the table of nations. 01:57:13.490 --> 01:57:16.230 Chapter 11 goes back and is giving a recap of everything. 01:57:16.890 --> 01:57:20.270 It's no different than a newspaper or a news media man saying, you know, 01:57:20.330 --> 01:57:24.590 30 people killed in a bus crash in, you know, the Pocono Mountains or 01:57:24.590 --> 01:57:24.810 something. 01:57:26.110 --> 01:57:28.750 And then they start telling the story and it says the bus was traveling down the 01:57:28.750 --> 01:57:29.030 highway. 01:57:29.270 --> 01:57:31.950 You say, wait a minute, the headline says the people were killed in a crash. 01:57:32.410 --> 01:57:33.650 Now it says the bus was traveling down the highway. 01:57:33.650 --> 01:57:35.390 Well, they are retelling the story. 01:57:35.570 --> 01:57:35.990 Duh! 01:57:36.350 --> 01:57:39.270 That's common in journalism or writing of any kind. 01:57:39.750 --> 01:57:43.290 And chapter 11 is just retelling the story, giving a recap of what happened. 01:57:43.590 --> 01:57:43.650 Okay. 01:57:44.350 --> 01:57:48.650 Numbers chapter 25 says, those that died in the plague were 20 and 4,000. 01:57:49.010 --> 01:57:53.250 I did a debate just a few months ago and one of the professors that I debated said 01:57:53.250 --> 01:57:55.570 the Bible has got contradictions and this is one he brought up. 01:57:56.170 --> 01:57:59.050 It says those that died in the plague were 20 and 4,000. 01:57:59.050 --> 01:58:04.450 When you read the story in 1 Corinthians it says, and there fell in one day 3 and 01:58:04.450 --> 01:58:05.250 20,000. 01:58:06.330 --> 01:58:08.030 And he said, see there's a contradiction here. 01:58:08.070 --> 01:58:10.630 Is it 24,000 or 23,000? 01:58:11.350 --> 01:58:12.650 No, it's not a contradiction. 01:58:12.890 --> 01:58:13.870 Read it carefully. 01:58:14.790 --> 01:58:19.430 Numbers 25 says, those that died in the plague were 24,000. 01:58:20.450 --> 01:58:26.450 1 Corinthians tells us, those that died in one day were 3 and 20,000. 01:58:27.690 --> 01:58:30.950 Well, 1,000 died the next day or a few days later. 01:58:31.430 --> 01:58:34.990 24,000 died in the plague but 23,000 died in one day. 01:58:35.050 --> 01:58:35.930 It's not a contradiction. 01:58:36.770 --> 01:58:39.450 We could spend hours talking about supposed contradictions in the Bible. 01:58:39.530 --> 01:58:42.610 There's a great article about do rabbits chew the cud? 01:58:43.970 --> 01:58:46.530 And skeptics have said, no the rabbit doesn't chew the cud and yet the Bible 01:58:46.530 --> 01:58:47.210 says it does. 01:58:47.850 --> 01:58:51.050 Well, the chew the cud phrase means to re-eat that which was eaten. 01:58:51.230 --> 01:58:53.930 They chew it, swallow it, cough it up again and chew it again. 01:58:54.050 --> 01:58:54.910 Many animals do that. 01:58:55.550 --> 01:59:00.530 Rabbits eat their food, go to the bathroom and then eat their doo-doo the next day or 01:59:00.530 --> 01:59:00.850 later. 01:59:01.070 --> 01:59:02.610 They re-chew the same food. 01:59:02.830 --> 01:59:04.870 So, they do indeed chew the cud. 01:59:05.630 --> 01:59:07.210 Another supposed contradiction. 01:59:08.170 --> 01:59:10.130 How much gold did Solomon get from Ophir? 01:59:10.450 --> 01:59:11.910 Was it 450 or 420? 01:59:12.850 --> 01:59:18.110 In 1 Kings 9 it says, Solomon made a navy of ships and they went to Ophir and they 01:59:18.110 --> 01:59:20.530 got 420 talents of gold. 01:59:20.970 --> 01:59:24.830 When you read 2 Chronicles it says, Hiram sent him ships and they went to 01:59:24.830 --> 01:59:27.270 Ophir and got 450 talents of gold. 01:59:27.890 --> 01:59:30.050 And the skeptics will say, see you've got two problems here. 01:59:30.390 --> 01:59:33.990 Was it Hiram's navy or Solomon's navy and is it 420 or 450? 01:59:34.730 --> 01:59:36.330 It's not a contradiction at all. 01:59:37.190 --> 01:59:42.550 It says in 1 Kings, the king had at sea a navy of Tarshish with the navy of Hiram. 01:59:42.610 --> 01:59:43.690 They both had navies. 01:59:44.310 --> 01:59:48.210 And they went to Tarshish and they brought gold and silver and ivory and apes and 01:59:48.210 --> 01:59:48.610 peacocks. 01:59:49.250 --> 01:59:54.010 It says there were 3,000 talents of gold, of the gold of Ophir, used in this house. 01:59:54.890 --> 01:59:58.670 Apparently they went to Ophir many times if they got 400 or 500 talents at a time. 01:59:58.910 --> 01:59:59.950 Not a contradiction at all. 02:00:00.610 --> 02:00:03.410 We could spend hours, we'll produce a whole tape one of these days on supposed 02:00:03.410 --> 02:00:04.750 contradictions in the Bible. 02:00:04.870 --> 02:00:06.930 There aren't any contradictions in the Scripture. 02:00:08.290 --> 02:00:09.730 And you can trust God's Word. 02:00:09.750 --> 02:00:10.370 One last one. 02:00:11.010 --> 02:00:14.330 People say, shouldn't Easter be translated as Passover? 02:00:15.250 --> 02:00:19.130 King James is the only version of the Bible that calls it Easter in Acts chapter 02:00:19.130 --> 02:00:20.450 12 and verse number 4. 02:00:21.030 --> 02:00:22.750 Every other version says it was Passover. 02:00:23.350 --> 02:00:25.390 And people say this is wrong, King James is wrong about this. 02:00:25.450 --> 02:00:26.150 Well, now hold on a minute. 02:00:26.590 --> 02:00:27.470 Let's read the passage here. 02:00:28.150 --> 02:00:29.270 Acts chapter 12 verse 1. 02:00:30.070 --> 02:00:33.510 About that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the 02:00:33.510 --> 02:00:33.770 church. 02:00:34.070 --> 02:00:36.270 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 02:00:36.770 --> 02:00:40.070 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter 02:00:40.070 --> 02:00:40.470 also. 02:00:40.890 --> 02:00:42.370 Then were the days of unleavened bread. 02:00:42.950 --> 02:00:46.890 And when he had apprehended him and put him in prison, he delivered him to four 02:00:46.890 --> 02:00:51.450 quaternions of soldiers to keep him, intending after Easter to bring him forth 02:00:51.450 --> 02:00:51.930 to the people. 02:00:52.310 --> 02:00:54.530 And this is the phrase everybody gets bent out of shape about. 02:00:54.890 --> 02:00:57.650 They'll say this is a contradiction, it shouldn't be Easter, it should be 02:00:57.650 --> 02:00:59.330 Pascha, should be translated Passover. 02:01:00.470 --> 02:01:02.490 Okay, let's just go back and look at the Passover. 02:01:02.650 --> 02:01:03.730 Exodus chapter 12. 02:01:04.390 --> 02:01:06.730 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt. 02:01:06.830 --> 02:01:09.370 This said, This month shall be to you the beginning of months. 02:01:09.450 --> 02:01:10.390 This is April by the way. 02:01:10.710 --> 02:01:12.770 It is the first month of the year to you. 02:01:13.290 --> 02:01:16.970 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, and say, In the tenth day of this 02:01:16.970 --> 02:01:20.710 month they shall take to them a lamb according to the house, a lamb for their 02:01:20.710 --> 02:01:20.950 house. 02:01:21.510 --> 02:01:24.270 And verse 6, Ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day. 02:01:24.890 --> 02:01:27.770 And then you killed it, and you put the blood on the two side posts and on the top 02:01:27.770 --> 02:01:28.170 of your door. 02:01:28.430 --> 02:01:30.730 And then you eat the flesh that night. 02:01:31.310 --> 02:01:34.130 So on April fourteenth they eat the lamb. 02:01:35.270 --> 02:01:36.830 And it tells all about the Passover here. 02:01:37.090 --> 02:01:39.230 It's the Lord's Passover, Exodus chapter 12. 02:01:39.990 --> 02:01:44.470 Verse 14 says, This day shall be unto you a memorial, and ye shall keep it a feast 02:01:45.870 --> 02:01:47.390 to the Lord throughout your generations. 02:01:47.450 --> 02:01:49.190 Ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever. 02:01:49.350 --> 02:01:51.990 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread. 02:01:52.770 --> 02:01:55.190 Even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of the house. 02:01:55.790 --> 02:01:57.770 And it goes on to describe the whole story here. 02:01:58.310 --> 02:02:02.170 And it says in verse 18, In the first month on the fourteenth day of the month 02:02:02.170 --> 02:02:08.170 at even, in the evening, ye shall eat unleavened bread until the one and 02:02:08.170 --> 02:02:10.230 twentieth day of the month at even. 02:02:10.970 --> 02:02:16.010 So the feast of unleavened bread was seven days right after the Passover when they 02:02:16.010 --> 02:02:16.810 killed and ate the lamb. 02:02:17.370 --> 02:02:21.710 Numbers 28 tells us the fourteenth day of the first month is the Passover. 02:02:23.690 --> 02:02:25.830 The fifteenth day is the feast. 02:02:26.470 --> 02:02:27.970 Seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. 02:02:28.290 --> 02:02:29.130 So here's the sequence. 02:02:29.770 --> 02:02:32.430 The Passover was at night on April 14th, always. 02:02:33.170 --> 02:02:36.350 The seven days of unleavened bread followed the Passover. 02:02:37.670 --> 02:02:44.110 The pagan festival of Astar or Istar was always held late in April to commemorate 02:02:44.110 --> 02:02:45.570 the earth regenerating itself. 02:02:46.250 --> 02:02:51.030 Which is why Playboy uses the rabbit as their symbol and we have Easter eggs and 02:02:51.030 --> 02:02:51.710 Easter bunnies. 02:02:51.770 --> 02:02:53.250 These are all fertility symbols. 02:02:53.970 --> 02:02:55.750 Easter is a pagan holiday. 02:02:56.070 --> 02:02:57.270 No question about it. 02:02:57.990 --> 02:03:01.070 So the feast days are never called Passover anywhere in Scripture. 02:03:01.470 --> 02:03:02.970 The feast days followed the Passover. 02:03:03.630 --> 02:03:07.290 The Bible says Peter was arrested during the days of unleavened bread. 02:03:08.470 --> 02:03:09.950 The Passover was already done. 02:03:10.910 --> 02:03:14.770 Herod wanted to keep Peter and kill him during his own pagan festival of Istar 02:03:14.770 --> 02:03:16.010 which was coming up in a few days. 02:03:16.010 --> 02:03:18.050 The King James is the only version to get it right. 02:03:18.970 --> 02:03:19.910 Look at it carefully here. 02:03:20.610 --> 02:03:24.350 It says, then were the days of unleavened bread and Herod wanted to bring him forth 02:03:24.350 --> 02:03:25.710 after Istar to kill him. 02:03:26.270 --> 02:03:28.910 So if it says Passover, I'm sorry, it's wrong. 02:03:29.070 --> 02:03:31.110 It should be Easter which was the pagan holiday. 02:03:31.670 --> 02:03:36.110 The guy who invented the word Passover was the guy who ought to decide when it ought 02:03:36.110 --> 02:03:37.670 to be used and that was William Tyndale. 02:03:38.350 --> 02:03:40.090 He created the word Passover. 02:03:41.510 --> 02:03:44.650 He said in Acts 12, 4, it was Easter. 02:03:45.570 --> 02:03:47.470 This guy created the word Passover. 02:03:47.630 --> 02:03:50.670 He should know and Tyndale version uses the word Easter. 02:03:51.890 --> 02:03:55.390 So he didn't use Passover in his own translation even though he's the one who 02:03:55.390 --> 02:03:55.910 made up the word. 02:03:55.950 --> 02:03:58.010 He certainly would have known how to use it there. 02:03:59.570 --> 02:04:01.850 Okay, how much did David pay for the land? 02:04:02.170 --> 02:04:05.370 Was it 600 shekels of gold or 50 shekels of silver? 02:04:05.530 --> 02:04:06.910 People say there's a contradiction here. 02:04:07.430 --> 02:04:12.950 If you read 2 Samuel chapter 24, and the king said to Arunah, nay, 02:04:13.030 --> 02:04:14.670 but I will surely buy it of thee at a price. 02:04:14.750 --> 02:04:19.910 Neither will I offer burnt offerings unto the Lord my God of that which doth cost me 02:04:19.910 --> 02:04:20.210 nothing. 02:04:20.990 --> 02:04:25.070 So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for 50 shekels of silver. 02:04:27.570 --> 02:04:31.630 But when you read 1 Chronicles it says David gave to Ornan for the place 600 02:04:31.630 --> 02:04:33.430 shekels of gold by weight. 02:04:34.350 --> 02:04:37.950 Well was it 50 shekels of silver or 600 shekels of gold? 02:04:38.050 --> 02:04:39.270 People say there's a contradiction here. 02:04:39.390 --> 02:04:40.230 Oh, it's not a contradiction. 02:04:41.050 --> 02:04:44.890 50 shekels of silver is a pretty small price to pay for a site that was later to 02:04:44.890 --> 02:04:46.090 become the temple mount. 02:04:47.130 --> 02:04:51.490 He paid 600 shekels of gold for the site and he paid 50 shekels of silver for the 02:04:51.490 --> 02:04:51.890 oxen. 02:04:53.210 --> 02:04:56.090 1 Chronicles seemed to indicate the initial discussion was about the property. 02:04:56.590 --> 02:04:59.170 Then Ornan offered to sell David the oxen also. 02:05:00.150 --> 02:05:03.450 It says in 2 Samuel, David said, I will buy it of thee at a price. 02:05:03.790 --> 02:05:08.330 He said, so David bought the threshing floor, that was the 600 shekels of silver, 02:05:08.670 --> 02:05:10.850 and the oxen for 50 shekels of silver. 02:05:11.790 --> 02:05:12.750 It's not a contradiction. 02:05:12.890 --> 02:05:13.850 He's continuing on there. 02:05:16.150 --> 02:05:18.030 Was Jonah swallowed by a fish or a whale? 02:05:18.990 --> 02:05:22.730 Well, Jonah chapter 1 says the great fish swallowed up Jonah. 02:05:23.410 --> 02:05:25.730 Jonah chapter 2 says he was in the fish's belly. 02:05:26.470 --> 02:05:29.650 Matthew 12 says Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the whale's belly. 02:05:30.350 --> 02:05:31.770 People say, oh, see there's a contradiction. 02:05:31.870 --> 02:05:32.810 Was it a fish or a whale? 02:05:33.630 --> 02:05:34.790 Not a contradiction at all. 02:05:34.850 --> 02:05:37.410 A whale is a fish in biblical classification system. 02:05:37.610 --> 02:05:39.310 If it swims in the water, it's a fish. 02:05:39.810 --> 02:05:44.130 Just because modern man has decided that whales and dolphins are mammals and 02:05:44.130 --> 02:05:46.830 therefore not classified as fish, that doesn't mean it's the same as the 02:05:46.830 --> 02:05:47.670 biblical classification. 02:05:48.090 --> 02:05:48.930 It's not a problem at all. 02:05:49.450 --> 02:05:52.530 Many other supposed contradictions in the Bible, we'll have to do a whole videotape 02:05:52.530 --> 02:05:53.170 on those someday. 02:05:53.530 --> 02:05:53.990 Next question. 02:05:54.890 --> 02:05:56.650 Why do you use the King James Version of the Bible? 02:05:56.750 --> 02:05:57.450 Why not other versions? 02:05:57.950 --> 02:05:59.790 Well, I've been a Christian since 1969. 02:06:00.570 --> 02:06:03.090 I was raised in all kinds of different churches and when after I got saved, 02:06:03.150 --> 02:06:05.870 my parents started giving me just about every kind of Bible version there was. 02:06:05.950 --> 02:06:08.210 And I have a collection of quite a few different Bible versions. 02:06:08.350 --> 02:06:09.110 I'm not afraid of them. 02:06:09.610 --> 02:06:12.870 But let me give you a quick history of the different Bible versions and maybe this 02:06:12.870 --> 02:06:13.730 will put it in perspective. 02:06:14.230 --> 02:06:18.290 I have slowly over 30 some years come to the position of the King James. 02:06:18.950 --> 02:06:20.870 Now I don't fight Christians to use other versions. 02:06:20.970 --> 02:06:22.030 Use whatever you want, okay? 02:06:22.030 --> 02:06:25.010 But I think if you're really going to be a Bible student, you're going to have to get 02:06:25.010 --> 02:06:25.550 a King James. 02:06:26.630 --> 02:06:27.330 Here's the story. 02:06:27.910 --> 02:06:30.310 New Testament books were written shortly after the time of Christ. 02:06:31.410 --> 02:06:32.270 They had to make copies. 02:06:32.290 --> 02:06:34.610 It takes about 10 months to write out a copy of the Bible. 02:06:35.370 --> 02:06:37.850 So they had to write out the whole copy of the Bible by hand. 02:06:37.890 --> 02:06:41.410 They had no Gazetner, no printing press, no Gutenberg hadn't been born yet. 02:06:42.030 --> 02:06:44.030 So it took a long time to make a copy of the Bible. 02:06:44.290 --> 02:06:47.770 They make their copies, they either both books and scrolls, both were in use all 02:06:47.770 --> 02:06:48.210 through Scripture. 02:06:48.910 --> 02:06:51.850 And they make a copy and then they check it very carefully. 02:06:51.970 --> 02:06:53.410 If they find a mistake, you're going to burn it. 02:06:54.010 --> 02:06:55.650 So they were very careful to get it right. 02:06:56.190 --> 02:06:58.710 They had a checking system that was really pretty goof-proof. 02:06:59.370 --> 02:07:02.130 They made all these copies and they spread out around the world because this was a 02:07:02.130 --> 02:07:03.130 time of great persecution. 02:07:03.950 --> 02:07:06.470 Christians are getting persecuted so they spread out to different countries and they 02:07:06.470 --> 02:07:08.170 bring their copies of Bibles with them. 02:07:09.130 --> 02:07:12.270 So you got somebody in India who's copying the Bible and somebody in France who's 02:07:12.270 --> 02:07:15.410 copying the Bible and pretty soon the copy wears out. 02:07:15.750 --> 02:07:16.870 Let's just pick a few numbers here. 02:07:17.170 --> 02:07:19.270 This is a book from the early 1900s. 02:07:19.410 --> 02:07:22.330 It's a very beautiful book and it's beginning to get worn out. 02:07:23.290 --> 02:07:26.730 If this book was in active use, if I opened it and closed it and read from 02:07:26.730 --> 02:07:30.150 it every single day, it would shorten the life of it. 02:07:30.630 --> 02:07:33.310 If it just simply sits on the shelf, of course it lasts longer. 02:07:33.870 --> 02:07:38.230 But a book in active use is going to quickly fall apart as this one has already 02:07:38.230 --> 02:07:41.030 begun to fall apart and it's not in active use, believe me. 02:07:42.430 --> 02:07:46.930 The scrolls that are in active use are not going to last more than maybe 200 years. 02:07:47.090 --> 02:07:48.130 Let's be generous here. 02:07:48.330 --> 02:07:50.710 Let's say a book lasts 200 years if you use it every day. 02:07:51.330 --> 02:07:53.970 So they use these scrolls or Bibles and they're copying from it every day. 02:07:54.010 --> 02:07:55.610 At the end of the day they roll it up and they put it away. 02:07:56.750 --> 02:07:58.610 Within 200 years it's worn out. 02:07:58.770 --> 02:08:00.510 It's rags, you throw it away. 02:08:01.150 --> 02:08:05.170 But it doesn't matter because by then you have 50 copies you've made off of this 02:08:05.170 --> 02:08:06.710 thing or maybe 100 copies. 02:08:07.270 --> 02:08:10.750 They've made copy after copy after copy of these scrolls or books. 02:08:11.670 --> 02:08:13.990 So you have exact copies of the original. 02:08:14.330 --> 02:08:17.150 The original is junk by now so you throw it away. 02:08:17.210 --> 02:08:17.690 It doesn't matter. 02:08:18.530 --> 02:08:21.530 You take those 50 copies and you begin making copies off of those. 02:08:21.990 --> 02:08:26.170 And again, very careful copying process, but after a few hundred years they are 02:08:26.170 --> 02:08:27.230 junk so you throw them away. 02:08:28.170 --> 02:08:31.810 This goes on several generations and now you're on the fourth or fifth or sixth 02:08:31.810 --> 02:08:33.190 generation from the original. 02:08:33.830 --> 02:08:38.010 And now you have thousands of exact copies of the original which is long gone. 02:08:38.130 --> 02:08:40.330 It's been thrown away years and years ago. 02:08:41.330 --> 02:08:45.710 About the early 1500s they decided to put the Bible into English. 02:08:46.870 --> 02:08:51.050 And so Erasmus and Luther and Tyndale and the Geneva Bible and all this was made in 02:08:51.050 --> 02:08:53.430 the early 1500s. 02:08:53.590 --> 02:08:56.850 And throughout the 1500s they're making copies of the Bible and translating it to 02:08:56.850 --> 02:08:57.170 English. 02:08:58.050 --> 02:09:01.890 They went around and gathered up old scrolls that they could find and copies of 02:09:01.890 --> 02:09:07.550 the Bible and they found about 5,000 copies of Scripture from countries all 02:09:07.550 --> 02:09:07.970 over the world. 02:09:09.010 --> 02:09:13.330 This group of manuscripts became known as the Texas Receptus, the Received Text. 02:09:13.910 --> 02:09:17.070 They looked at all these scrolls and could find no differences except the spelling of 02:09:17.070 --> 02:09:20.050 people's names and the spelling of cities, you know, like Peter and Pedro and stuff 02:09:20.050 --> 02:09:20.370 like that. 02:09:21.270 --> 02:09:24.950 So they made English translations and finally the King James in 1611 was made 02:09:24.950 --> 02:09:28.050 from what's called the Majority Text. 02:09:29.410 --> 02:09:34.350 Meanwhile, down in Egypt, there was a group of folks called the Alexandrians 02:09:34.350 --> 02:09:37.890 down in Alexandria, Egypt, which was at that time a major city. 02:09:37.970 --> 02:09:41.690 A major library was there, which later burned, but a major city in Alexandria, 02:09:41.870 --> 02:09:41.990 Egypt. 02:09:43.230 --> 02:09:45.250 There was a cult down there called the Alexandrians. 02:09:45.310 --> 02:09:46.670 They were sort of like Jehovah's Witnesses. 02:09:46.750 --> 02:09:49.210 They wanted everybody to think they were Christian, but they believed a lot of 02:09:49.210 --> 02:09:49.750 strange things. 02:09:50.130 --> 02:09:52.130 So they made their own version of the Bible. 02:09:52.930 --> 02:09:54.630 They left out a lot of verses they didn't like. 02:09:54.730 --> 02:09:55.930 They changed little things here and there. 02:09:56.570 --> 02:09:58.610 It was a careful counterfeit, but a counterfeit nonetheless. 02:09:59.750 --> 02:10:02.430 They have this Alexandrian Bible and some copies were made. 02:10:03.310 --> 02:10:08.290 The primary guy in this cult was a guy named Origen, who lived about 240 AD. 02:10:10.190 --> 02:10:16.470 In 350 AD, two copies of the Alexandrian Bible were made and those copies are 02:10:16.470 --> 02:10:21.590 called the Sinaiticus because it was found in the Sinai Desert in a monastery and 02:10:21.590 --> 02:10:24.190 Vaticanus because it was found in the Vatican library in the basement, 02:10:24.710 --> 02:10:25.070 I believe. 02:10:25.510 --> 02:10:29.210 Those two copies from 350 AD are still around today. 02:10:30.150 --> 02:10:34.850 You know, 1,600 years old copies of the Scriptures, well, of the Alexandrian 02:10:34.850 --> 02:10:35.270 Bible. 02:10:36.710 --> 02:10:42.190 The Latin Vulgate was made from those manuscripts in 380 AD. 02:10:42.630 --> 02:10:43.850 It was translated to Latin. 02:10:45.370 --> 02:10:52.010 Then in 1582, the Catholic Church ordered the translation of the Latin Vulgate into 02:10:52.010 --> 02:10:52.650 English. 02:10:53.050 --> 02:10:57.250 And that's where the Douay confraternity and the Douay-Rheims version come in. 02:10:57.350 --> 02:11:02.270 The Douay versions were made from the Latin, which was a good translation of the 02:11:02.270 --> 02:11:02.930 wrong manuscript. 02:11:03.210 --> 02:11:04.570 They're translating the Alexandrian. 02:11:05.270 --> 02:11:08.810 So they got the bad manuscript, the corrupt, you know, cult manuscript 02:11:08.810 --> 02:11:12.030 being translated into English, which became the official Catholic version 02:11:12.030 --> 02:11:14.250 in use today, the Douay version of the Bible. 02:11:14.970 --> 02:11:22.110 Two guys named Westcott and Hort came along in 1875 and they took these 02:11:22.110 --> 02:11:27.010 Alexandrian manuscripts, of which I think about 15 or 17 of them were found, 02:11:27.070 --> 02:11:31.750 I don't know, and they said, these are old manuscripts, therefore they're better. 02:11:32.510 --> 02:11:33.370 Well, now hold on a minute. 02:11:33.470 --> 02:11:35.070 Yes, they're older, but that doesn't mean they're better. 02:11:35.250 --> 02:11:36.410 They're older because they're worse. 02:11:36.490 --> 02:11:37.410 The people didn't use them. 02:11:37.490 --> 02:11:38.190 They didn't wear them out. 02:11:38.890 --> 02:11:42.850 But they made a modern Greek version of the Bible from this ancient one. 02:11:42.930 --> 02:11:47.070 They put it on new paper, new ink, and made a new Greek edition in 1875. 02:11:47.730 --> 02:11:51.630 This was then translated into English, at least the New Testament in Greek. 02:11:52.610 --> 02:11:59.950 And so the English translations of the Westcott and Hort text include the Revised 02:11:59.950 --> 02:12:03.730 Version done in 1881, the American Standard Version done in 1901, 02:12:04.210 --> 02:12:07.410 the Revised Standard done in 1946, and that's the Bible I got saved from, 02:12:07.970 --> 02:12:12.070 the New World Translation Jehovah's Witness Bible made in 1950, the New 02:12:12.070 --> 02:12:16.330 American Standard Bible made in 1960, the Good News Bible, the Amplified Bible, 02:12:16.450 --> 02:12:17.750 the Living Bible, and the NIV. 02:12:18.390 --> 02:12:22.150 All of those are good translations of the wrong manuscript. 02:12:23.390 --> 02:12:25.170 So, I don't fault the translators. 02:12:25.270 --> 02:12:27.770 I think they're probably sincere men, probably intelligent men, but they're 02:12:27.770 --> 02:12:29.190 translating the wrong book. 02:12:29.710 --> 02:12:30.790 They need to get the right Bible. 02:12:31.530 --> 02:12:35.470 The first mention of Alexandria is in Acts chapter 9 when they were disputing with 02:12:35.470 --> 02:12:37.050 Stephen, arguing with the Christians. 02:12:37.710 --> 02:12:41.350 And we've still got the same thing today with these different versions of the Bible 02:12:41.350 --> 02:12:43.950 arguing with the real Bible. 02:12:44.570 --> 02:12:47.910 My Jehovah's Witness Bible on my shelf will probably never get worn out. 02:12:48.990 --> 02:12:51.090 It doesn't mean it's better, it just means I'm not going to use it. 02:12:51.570 --> 02:12:54.270 I have one, I have a Mormon Bible, I'm just not going to use it. 02:12:54.430 --> 02:12:55.950 So, that's the story. 02:12:56.350 --> 02:12:59.190 There are more manuscripts of the Bible than any other book ever written in 02:12:59.190 --> 02:12:59.850 ancient times. 02:13:00.190 --> 02:13:03.330 Homer's Iliad, for instance, there are only 643 manuscripts known today. 02:13:03.990 --> 02:13:07.590 By 1946 they had discovered 24,000 manuscripts of the Bible. 02:13:07.870 --> 02:13:14.030 Then when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947, they now have 40,000 new 02:13:14.030 --> 02:13:15.050 manuscripts to work from. 02:13:16.170 --> 02:13:22.350 So, the Dead Sea Scrolls made it up to the total now of 64,000 manuscripts of 02:13:22.350 --> 02:13:22.770 Scripture. 02:13:23.370 --> 02:13:27.170 The Isaiah Scroll is 1,000 years older than any known manuscript anywhere in the 02:13:27.170 --> 02:13:27.350 world. 02:13:28.210 --> 02:13:32.770 And it matches exactly the Texas Receptus, the King James. 02:13:32.810 --> 02:13:34.710 I recommend you get the book New Age Bible Versions. 02:13:34.810 --> 02:13:38.570 You can order it from my ministry or go to avpublications.com if this topic interests 02:13:38.570 --> 02:13:40.570 you about studying different Bible versions. 02:13:40.970 --> 02:13:42.750 And we could spend hours about that one, but that's enough. 02:13:43.510 --> 02:13:45.170 Next question, what is God like? 02:13:45.210 --> 02:13:47.930 Anyway, man is a three-dimensional person. 02:13:48.950 --> 02:13:49.710 What's God like? 02:13:50.630 --> 02:13:53.830 Well, a friend of mine came to me one day when I spoke in Mobile, Alabama. 02:13:53.830 --> 02:13:56.770 He said, hey, Brother Hovind, let's go get some ice cream at McDonald's or something 02:13:56.770 --> 02:13:57.330 after you're done. 02:13:57.550 --> 02:13:58.270 I said, that would be great, Brother. 02:13:58.970 --> 02:14:01.470 We went to McDonald's, we're sitting here at the table, and he took two pieces of 02:14:01.470 --> 02:14:04.910 paper out and he wrote on one Mr. Flat and on the other one he wrote Mrs. Flat. 02:14:05.790 --> 02:14:07.450 He said, Kent, let me show you something interesting here. 02:14:07.830 --> 02:14:09.130 He said, you taught geometry, right? 02:14:09.190 --> 02:14:09.670 I said, yes, sir. 02:14:10.630 --> 02:14:13.610 He said, I want you to imagine we've got two people here, Mr. Flat and Mrs. Flat, 02:14:13.670 --> 02:14:14.770 and they live in Flatland. 02:14:15.230 --> 02:14:17.370 They live in a plane, a two-dimensional world. 02:14:17.710 --> 02:14:20.390 They have no concept whatsoever of the third dimension. 02:14:20.610 --> 02:14:21.870 They're totally flat. 02:14:22.490 --> 02:14:22.930 I said, okay. 02:14:23.930 --> 02:14:28.070 I said, now, suppose you as a three-dimensional person would like to get 02:14:28.070 --> 02:14:31.830 them to know you, but they have no concept of you because you live in a third 02:14:31.830 --> 02:14:32.330 dimension. 02:14:33.570 --> 02:14:34.730 I said, okay, I got you. 02:14:35.710 --> 02:14:39.810 He said, now, you can't put a three-dimensional being into two 02:14:39.810 --> 02:14:40.150 dimensions. 02:14:40.250 --> 02:14:41.210 It just simply won't work. 02:14:42.230 --> 02:14:45.070 Mr. Flat actually sees Mrs. Flat as a straight line. 02:14:45.170 --> 02:14:46.750 He only sees one dimension. 02:14:46.910 --> 02:14:48.590 He perceives the second dimension. 02:14:49.550 --> 02:14:53.250 He can walk around and figure out she's a rectangle, but he actually only sees a 02:14:53.250 --> 02:14:54.170 straight line when he sees her. 02:14:54.590 --> 02:14:55.330 I said, okay, I got you. 02:14:56.090 --> 02:14:58.270 He said, now, you and I can see two dimensions. 02:14:58.410 --> 02:15:01.470 We see the width and the height, but we perceive the depth. 02:15:01.950 --> 02:15:03.090 You can't really see depth. 02:15:03.190 --> 02:15:06.110 You can understand depth because you have two eyes looking at this thing, 02:15:06.170 --> 02:15:07.430 and you get what's called depth perception. 02:15:07.570 --> 02:15:08.190 I said, I got it. 02:15:08.670 --> 02:15:10.890 But actually, you could take a photograph of what you're looking at, and it would 02:15:10.890 --> 02:15:11.510 still look the same. 02:15:12.250 --> 02:15:16.550 You would perceive the depth because of our common experience, but you can't 02:15:16.550 --> 02:15:17.490 really see depth. 02:15:17.730 --> 02:15:18.590 I said, I got it. 02:15:19.270 --> 02:15:22.650 He said, now, suppose you want to introduce yourself to Mr. Flat and Mrs. 02:15:22.730 --> 02:15:22.870 Flat. 02:15:23.370 --> 02:15:27.050 So you stick your finger through the table, and Mr. Flat comes over and looks 02:15:27.050 --> 02:15:30.330 at it and says, oh, I see a circle, the cross section of your finger. 02:15:32.410 --> 02:15:35.630 Over here you stick three fingers through the table, and Mrs. Flat comes and looks 02:15:35.630 --> 02:15:37.410 at him and says, oh, honey, I've seen Kent Hovind. 02:15:37.450 --> 02:15:38.070 He's three circles. 02:15:39.230 --> 02:15:41.050 Mr. Flat says, no, honey, he's one circle. 02:15:41.890 --> 02:15:44.130 And they're going to fight for a while and argue, and finally they're going to split 02:15:44.130 --> 02:15:46.390 the church and start the church of the three circles and the church of the one 02:15:46.390 --> 02:15:46.610 circles. 02:15:47.110 --> 02:15:49.690 But the fact is, neither one of them has a clue what I'm like. 02:15:50.410 --> 02:15:53.430 You simply can't put a three-dimensional being into two dimensions. 02:15:53.510 --> 02:15:54.570 They're not going to ever get it. 02:15:55.510 --> 02:16:00.230 Well, if you read Ephesians chapter 3, it says that we may be able to comprehend 02:16:00.230 --> 02:16:02.950 with all saints what is the length and depth and breadth and height. 02:16:03.730 --> 02:16:06.410 The length and depth and breadth and height, there's four dimensions. 02:16:07.510 --> 02:16:11.290 I think there's an awful lot more to God than we can possibly comprehend in our 02:16:11.290 --> 02:16:12.510 little three-dimensional world. 02:16:13.070 --> 02:16:17.590 Just like Mr. Flat and Mrs. Flat are not going to get it about a three-dimensional 02:16:17.590 --> 02:16:22.010 person, I don't think we three-dimensional persons are ever going to get it to 02:16:22.010 --> 02:16:22.770 understand God. 02:16:23.310 --> 02:16:26.550 But when we get to heaven, we shall see Him, we shall be like Him, we shall see 02:16:26.550 --> 02:16:27.090 Him as He is. 02:16:27.450 --> 02:16:30.050 Then we're going to say, oh, now I understand. 02:16:31.010 --> 02:16:33.430 And there are these guys going around saying God has ten dimensions. 02:16:33.590 --> 02:16:34.390 I think that's heresy. 02:16:34.790 --> 02:16:35.610 God is infinite. 02:16:35.790 --> 02:16:37.650 He's not limited by anything whatsoever. 02:16:38.270 --> 02:16:40.190 He is absolutely God. 02:16:40.990 --> 02:16:44.350 By definition, it would have to be not limited by time, space, or matter. 02:16:44.950 --> 02:16:45.550 Next question. 02:16:46.350 --> 02:16:47.330 What about the races? 02:16:47.410 --> 02:16:48.110 Where do they come from? 02:16:48.870 --> 02:16:52.750 Well, there's no question there's a lot of different looking people on this planet. 02:16:52.870 --> 02:16:55.230 Black ones and white ones and yellow ones and tall ones and little ones, 02:16:55.330 --> 02:16:55.450 etc. 02:16:56.190 --> 02:16:57.510 But there really aren't any races. 02:16:57.790 --> 02:16:58.950 There are skin colors. 02:16:59.570 --> 02:17:00.470 There's only one race. 02:17:00.550 --> 02:17:01.850 It's called the human race. 02:17:02.710 --> 02:17:04.770 Would you say these are different races of cows? 02:17:06.070 --> 02:17:07.510 No, they're just different skin colors. 02:17:07.870 --> 02:17:11.250 And I can assure you they all look the same in the meat locker and they all taste 02:17:11.250 --> 02:17:12.130 the same on the hamburger. 02:17:12.970 --> 02:17:14.890 They're just different skin colors, that's all. 02:17:15.290 --> 02:17:17.350 There are four theories of where the races come from. 02:17:18.750 --> 02:17:19.890 I don't know which is true. 02:17:20.050 --> 02:17:22.810 I suspect I do, but I'll just give the four theories and tell you what I believe. 02:17:23.190 --> 02:17:26.390 One theory says Adam and Eve are medium brown and they produced all the races, 02:17:26.570 --> 02:17:28.250 all the colors in their own children. 02:17:28.590 --> 02:17:29.150 Could be true. 02:17:29.450 --> 02:17:30.070 Here's an albino. 02:17:30.450 --> 02:17:32.370 Three albino children born to a black couple. 02:17:35.010 --> 02:17:36.350 Just an interesting bit of trivia here. 02:17:36.810 --> 02:17:41.070 The second theory, which I do not believe, it says the Lord put a mark on Cain in 02:17:41.070 --> 02:17:44.210 Genesis chapter 4, lest any finding him should kill him. 02:17:45.030 --> 02:17:46.730 And they say Cain became a black person. 02:17:47.190 --> 02:17:49.590 I don't buy this for one second, but a lot of churches do. 02:17:50.050 --> 02:17:55.430 The Mormon church teaches that the Negroes are not equal with other races. 02:17:56.070 --> 02:17:58.890 This is what the Mormon church teaches in their doctrine book here in 1966. 02:17:59.730 --> 02:18:01.090 They say it's the Lord's doing. 02:18:01.210 --> 02:18:05.150 It's based on His eternal laws of justice and grows out of a lack of spiritual 02:18:05.150 --> 02:18:07.730 valiance of those concerned in their first estate. 02:18:09.010 --> 02:18:10.410 Lack of spiritual valiance. 02:18:10.410 --> 02:18:11.050 What do they mean here? 02:18:11.910 --> 02:18:14.250 Well, I had a couple of Mormon missionaries knock on my door one time and 02:18:14.250 --> 02:18:16.450 they said, Mr. Hovind, we'd like to talk to you about the Lord. 02:18:17.170 --> 02:18:18.230 I said, that'd be great, fellas. 02:18:18.410 --> 02:18:19.710 Which Lord would you like to talk about? 02:18:19.850 --> 02:18:20.630 Yours or mine? 02:18:21.710 --> 02:18:23.050 They said, oh, we serve the same God. 02:18:23.570 --> 02:18:24.890 I said, no, fellas, I'm sorry. 02:18:25.090 --> 02:18:26.130 We serve a different God. 02:18:26.750 --> 02:18:27.650 I said, let me show you here. 02:18:27.950 --> 02:18:29.530 Does your God have a body like mine? 02:18:30.130 --> 02:18:31.270 They said, yep, we believe He does. 02:18:32.290 --> 02:18:35.390 I said, okay, my Bible says God's a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him 02:18:35.390 --> 02:18:36.190 in spirit and in truth. 02:18:36.810 --> 02:18:39.450 I said, does your God live on the planet Kolob? 02:18:40.050 --> 02:18:41.150 They said, yeah, we believe He does. 02:18:42.170 --> 02:18:44.150 I said, well, my Bible says God is all places. 02:18:44.490 --> 02:18:45.770 The eyes of the Lord are everywhere. 02:18:46.050 --> 02:18:47.070 He's not living on a planet. 02:18:47.130 --> 02:18:48.750 He's every place at the same time. 02:18:49.330 --> 02:18:49.930 That's God. 02:18:50.830 --> 02:18:52.710 I said, does your God have thousands of wives? 02:18:53.850 --> 02:18:54.890 They said, yeah, we believe He does. 02:18:55.790 --> 02:18:59.150 I said, does your God have normal physical relations with those wives and produce 02:18:59.150 --> 02:19:00.670 spirit children up in heaven? 02:19:01.510 --> 02:19:02.670 They said, yeah, we believe He does. 02:19:03.910 --> 02:19:09.350 I said, now, does your God produce the spirit in heaven and the human couple on 02:19:09.350 --> 02:19:10.890 earth only produces the body? 02:19:11.050 --> 02:19:11.910 Is that what you guys teach? 02:19:12.030 --> 02:19:12.990 They said, yeah, that's correct. 02:19:14.130 --> 02:19:18.430 I said, now, if the spirit baby in heaven is a valiant spirit baby, if it's a good 02:19:18.430 --> 02:19:21.590 spirit baby, when it comes to earth it gets a white-skinned body. 02:19:22.250 --> 02:19:25.410 But if it's a bad spirit baby, it gets a black-skinned body. 02:19:25.490 --> 02:19:26.230 Is that what you believe? 02:19:28.230 --> 02:19:31.790 They said, well, you're not supposed to know that, but yeah, that is what we 02:19:31.790 --> 02:19:32.070 teach. 02:19:33.910 --> 02:19:38.170 I said, fellas, I know you got the little tag on that says elder, even though you're 02:19:38.170 --> 02:19:38.530 17. 02:19:40.110 --> 02:19:42.650 I said, I've been married, now it's been nearly 30 years. 02:19:42.750 --> 02:19:44.650 I said, I've got three children, grown, got grandchildren. 02:19:44.830 --> 02:19:46.090 I said, I taught biology and anatomy. 02:19:46.210 --> 02:19:46.970 I used to raise hamsters. 02:19:47.970 --> 02:19:52.870 I said, did you know there are two babies born on earth every second, 24 hours a 02:19:52.870 --> 02:19:54.350 day, 7 days a week, nonstop? 02:19:56.170 --> 02:19:58.010 And your God supplies a spirit for each one. 02:19:59.350 --> 02:20:01.390 I said, when does he get time to answer your prayers? 02:20:02.730 --> 02:20:06.490 Of course, they knocked the dust off their feet and they never came back. 02:20:06.550 --> 02:20:07.150 I don't know what happened to them. 02:20:07.550 --> 02:20:11.070 But the Mormon Church teaches that the Negroes are a result of a lack of 02:20:11.070 --> 02:20:12.770 spiritual valiance in the first estate. 02:20:12.890 --> 02:20:13.990 That is stupid. 02:20:14.390 --> 02:20:15.290 That's not true. 02:20:16.250 --> 02:20:19.910 They say, Cain, Ham, and the whole Negro race were cursed with a black skin, 02:20:20.030 --> 02:20:21.170 the mark of Cain. 02:20:22.030 --> 02:20:25.910 Peterson said, a Mormon apostle, if there is one drop of Negro blood in my 02:20:25.910 --> 02:20:28.770 children, they have received the curse. 02:20:31.150 --> 02:20:34.550 Brigham Young said, shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? 02:20:34.890 --> 02:20:38.570 If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of 02:20:38.570 --> 02:20:41.930 Cain, the penalty under the law of God is death on the spot. 02:20:42.050 --> 02:20:43.450 This will always be so. 02:20:44.170 --> 02:20:46.790 There is a good book you ought to get called, The Secret History of the Mormon 02:20:46.790 --> 02:20:48.910 Church, to see what's happened. 02:20:48.930 --> 02:20:50.870 How many people were killed trying to leave the Mormon Church? 02:20:52.010 --> 02:20:54.030 I mean, it was a serious thing in the early days. 02:20:54.070 --> 02:20:54.730 I don't know if it still is. 02:20:54.790 --> 02:20:56.510 I hope not, but it certainly was. 02:20:56.570 --> 02:20:57.970 Read the book about secret history. 02:20:58.530 --> 02:21:04.310 The third theory about the races says that Noah put a curse on Canaan, his grandson 02:21:04.310 --> 02:21:04.750 Canaan. 02:21:05.450 --> 02:21:08.730 Genesis 9 says, Cursed be Canaan, a servant of servant shall he be. 02:21:08.830 --> 02:21:10.790 Genesis 9.26, Canaan shall be a servant. 02:21:10.930 --> 02:21:11.710 Canaan is a servant. 02:21:12.870 --> 02:21:17.130 Some people think that Canaan became the first black man and that black people are 02:21:17.130 --> 02:21:17.950 supposed to be servants. 02:21:18.110 --> 02:21:19.070 I think that's silly. 02:21:22.190 --> 02:21:25.350 That's slavery during the Civil War here in America. 02:21:26.050 --> 02:21:27.950 That's not where the races came from. 02:21:28.070 --> 02:21:29.630 Canaan was not the first black man. 02:21:30.410 --> 02:21:34.310 The fourth and I think the most reasonable theory is that the skin colors came as a 02:21:34.310 --> 02:21:35.990 result of the Tower of Babel. 02:21:37.170 --> 02:21:40.130 After the flood, God told them to spread out, have lots of kids and move around the 02:21:40.130 --> 02:21:40.310 world. 02:21:40.570 --> 02:21:41.090 Well, they didn't. 02:21:41.150 --> 02:21:41.910 They disobeyed God. 02:21:42.010 --> 02:21:43.970 They stayed in one place and they tried to build this big tower. 02:21:45.410 --> 02:21:50.590 Genesis 10.5 says, By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands, 02:21:50.670 --> 02:21:54.010 everyone after his tongue, after their families, in their nations. 02:21:56.230 --> 02:21:59.290 I think what happened at the Tower of Babel, they broke up into languages and 02:21:59.290 --> 02:22:02.650 people had to travel off and those that spoke French went together and those that 02:22:02.650 --> 02:22:03.530 spoke German went together. 02:22:04.230 --> 02:22:07.130 And they ended up, you got to marry into this little group. 02:22:07.510 --> 02:22:08.870 So you have close inbreeding. 02:22:09.590 --> 02:22:13.210 And if you marry cousins or sisters or nieces for a few generations, you're going 02:22:13.210 --> 02:22:14.530 to have a redneck after a while. 02:22:14.810 --> 02:22:16.590 Very unusual traits will become pronounced. 02:22:17.130 --> 02:22:18.950 This is what happened to the Habsburg dynasty. 02:22:18.950 --> 02:22:20.790 They had to marry royalty. 02:22:21.590 --> 02:22:23.170 But pretty soon they started looking really strange. 02:22:23.250 --> 02:22:27.690 Long nose, weird looking face, great big chins, six fingers, sometimes 02:22:27.690 --> 02:22:28.550 hemophiliacs. 02:22:28.630 --> 02:22:30.870 I mean a lot of serious problems in the Habsburg dynasty. 02:22:31.710 --> 02:22:38.870 But Genesis 10.32 said, The families of Noah is what created the nations and also 02:22:38.870 --> 02:22:39.610 the languages. 02:22:40.030 --> 02:22:42.590 There is a good book by Bill Cooper you can get called, After the Flood, 02:22:42.630 --> 02:22:44.150 which deals with this topic in great detail. 02:22:44.830 --> 02:22:49.450 One of Noah's sons, Japheth, in Genesis chapter 10, had about 14 kids or 02:22:49.450 --> 02:22:49.930 grandkids. 02:22:50.030 --> 02:22:50.910 It's kind of tough to count. 02:22:50.970 --> 02:22:52.010 If you go through Genesis you'll see. 02:22:52.110 --> 02:22:52.990 It's called the table of nations. 02:22:53.050 --> 02:22:53.770 Very interesting story. 02:22:54.290 --> 02:22:56.350 But Ham had 31. 02:22:56.450 --> 02:22:58.150 Roughly 31 kids or grandkids. 02:22:58.290 --> 02:23:00.290 And one of those was Canaan. 02:23:01.590 --> 02:23:03.450 It's only one of his 31 kids and grandkids. 02:23:03.990 --> 02:23:06.390 The Bible teaches us that Egypt is the land of Ham. 02:23:06.490 --> 02:23:07.610 It says so in Psalm 105. 02:23:08.810 --> 02:23:10.070 Egypt is the land of Ham. 02:23:10.630 --> 02:23:14.910 And in Psalm 106 it says, The wondrous works in the land of Ham, which is Egypt. 02:23:15.470 --> 02:23:20.710 There's not a whole lot of question among most Bible scholars that Africa is the 02:23:20.710 --> 02:23:22.730 land of Ham, the Hamites. 02:23:23.170 --> 02:23:25.510 So Noah's three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 02:23:25.830 --> 02:23:28.250 Ham settled this direction down in Africa. 02:23:29.350 --> 02:23:32.470 And the black people predominantly originated from Africa. 02:23:33.170 --> 02:23:36.450 The Japhethites, the descendants of Japheth, became the Europeans. 02:23:36.650 --> 02:23:37.710 They traveled over this way. 02:23:38.090 --> 02:23:40.230 And the Shemites became the Orientals. 02:23:40.570 --> 02:23:42.390 They traveled, you know, Chinese, Japanese, etc. 02:23:43.070 --> 02:23:44.970 Shem had about 29 kids or grandkids. 02:23:45.550 --> 02:23:48.030 Makes up a total of roughly 75 original languages. 02:23:48.210 --> 02:23:52.030 So I think the original, after the Tower of Babel, broke up into maybe 60, 02:23:52.150 --> 02:23:54.190 70, 80, or 100 different language groups. 02:23:54.930 --> 02:23:57.750 I think it's pretty obvious that probably English, German, and Danish had an 02:23:57.750 --> 02:23:59.490 original root language that was the same. 02:24:00.250 --> 02:24:02.430 I think probably they have originated from the same language. 02:24:02.790 --> 02:24:04.910 This is English, for instance, from 1,500 years ago. 02:24:05.370 --> 02:24:07.750 Now, I can't read but one word on the page. 02:24:07.850 --> 02:24:08.970 I said, duh, the first one. 02:24:09.470 --> 02:24:13.590 So, English has changed radically in the last 1,500 years. 02:24:13.830 --> 02:24:17.410 And Spanish, Italian, French, and Latin probably had a common root language. 02:24:17.570 --> 02:24:18.550 Nobody argues about that. 02:24:20.190 --> 02:24:23.030 I think a lot of the original languages contain the gospel story. 02:24:23.050 --> 02:24:26.550 For instance, in Chinese, you see the symbol for boat in the upper right-hand 02:24:26.550 --> 02:24:31.190 corner here is a combination of the symbol for a vessel, eight, and mouse. 02:24:31.190 --> 02:24:33.790 Eight mouse in one vessel, that's Noah's Ark. 02:24:34.650 --> 02:24:37.070 So a boat is the symbol for eight mouse in a vessel. 02:24:37.330 --> 02:24:41.090 The symbol for garden is dust plus breath plus two people in an enclosure, 02:24:41.570 --> 02:24:42.290 the Garden of Eden. 02:24:42.290 --> 02:24:44.030 Two people made from the dust of the ground. 02:24:44.450 --> 02:24:48.170 There are some great, great books on the Chinese language and how it contains the 02:24:48.170 --> 02:24:49.090 gospel story. 02:24:49.930 --> 02:24:52.070 Another book called God's Promise to the Chinese. 02:24:52.150 --> 02:24:53.590 You can get either one of these through our ministry here. 02:24:54.070 --> 02:24:57.670 I think God made everybody of one blood according to Acts chapter 17. 02:24:58.030 --> 02:25:00.310 So you are not superior because of the color of your skin. 02:25:00.990 --> 02:25:03.090 Malachi said, have we not all one father? 02:25:03.650 --> 02:25:06.950 We all came from Noah, folks, and nobody is superior because of the color of their 02:25:06.950 --> 02:25:07.230 skin. 02:25:08.430 --> 02:25:11.810 They've been searching for the Adam and Eve according to Science Magazine here, 02:25:12.350 --> 02:25:13.050 Newsweek Magazine. 02:25:13.970 --> 02:25:17.950 They say we had a common ancestor, one woman who lived 200,000 years ago, 02:25:18.510 --> 02:25:19.770 Mitochondrial Eve. 02:25:20.390 --> 02:25:23.470 Then later they did research and said, wow, maybe it was only 6,000 years ago 02:25:23.470 --> 02:25:26.250 because they found that mitochondria changes quicker than they thought. 02:25:27.110 --> 02:25:29.630 And then they said, oops, we know that can't be right, so we are going to keep 02:25:29.630 --> 02:25:29.930 searching. 02:25:30.430 --> 02:25:33.090 The fact of the matter is the Bible is right. 02:25:33.370 --> 02:25:36.910 About 4,400 years ago, we all came from Noah and his descendants. 02:25:37.850 --> 02:25:40.970 Noah's three sons, of course, may have been married to sisters or may have been 02:25:40.970 --> 02:25:43.190 married to somebody else from before the Flood. 02:25:43.230 --> 02:25:46.750 I'm not sure what the diversity was before the Flood back then. 02:25:47.330 --> 02:25:48.050 Okay, next question. 02:25:48.730 --> 02:25:49.430 What about cloning? 02:25:50.810 --> 02:25:57.010 Well, I think cloning is an interesting genetic trick, but it's not producing 02:25:57.010 --> 02:25:57.630 anything new. 02:25:58.010 --> 02:26:01.230 They're taking a DNA code that already exists and transplanting it. 02:26:01.930 --> 02:26:03.610 And the DNA code is incredibly complex. 02:26:03.750 --> 02:26:06.350 We cover this on Seminar Part 4, how complex the code is. 02:26:06.950 --> 02:26:08.210 What happened with the sheep Dali? 02:26:08.470 --> 02:26:12.030 They took a four-year-old sheep and they tried to take a cell and take a nucleus 02:26:12.030 --> 02:26:14.950 out of the cell and put it into a different cell and implant it so it would 02:26:14.950 --> 02:26:15.830 develop into a new sheep. 02:26:16.350 --> 02:26:18.030 They had 277 failures. 02:26:18.530 --> 02:26:21.390 It cost them $50,000 to make that one sheep. 02:26:22.030 --> 02:26:25.690 And then Dali ended up aging much faster than normal and died very early. 02:26:26.290 --> 02:26:28.230 Didn't live near as long as a normal sheep does. 02:26:28.910 --> 02:26:31.310 So basically, there was a failure. 02:26:32.970 --> 02:26:34.630 $50,000 for one sheep. 02:26:34.710 --> 02:26:37.070 I said, fellas, hey, the sheep can do this a whole lot quicker and cheaper. 02:26:37.210 --> 02:26:37.590 Leave them alone. 02:26:37.650 --> 02:26:38.250 They're doing fine. 02:26:38.430 --> 02:26:38.490 Okay? 02:26:39.750 --> 02:26:40.410 Next question. 02:26:40.810 --> 02:26:43.110 Why did God make poisonous snakes in a perfect world? 02:26:43.410 --> 02:26:45.990 I don't know the answer to this one for sure, but I have a theory that might help 02:26:45.990 --> 02:26:46.950 shed some light on this. 02:26:49.090 --> 02:26:55.450 Dr. Guderian in western Ecuador has treated 300 cases of snake bite with 02:26:55.450 --> 02:26:56.570 electric shock. 02:26:56.710 --> 02:26:57.650 They use a stun gun. 02:26:58.370 --> 02:27:01.550 If you get bit by a poisonous snake, if they get you within the first, 02:27:01.630 --> 02:27:05.610 you know, 30 minutes, they will take a stun gun and shock the side of the injury 02:27:05.610 --> 02:27:06.330 where you got bit. 02:27:06.650 --> 02:27:09.730 They shock the other side of the limb, and if it's been more than 30 minutes, 02:27:09.790 --> 02:27:11.510 they go halfway to the heart and shock you again. 02:27:12.250 --> 02:27:15.390 The electric shock going through your body neutralizes the poison. 02:27:16.570 --> 02:27:19.670 A lot of people in jungle areas now are carrying little stun guns, and if you get 02:27:19.670 --> 02:27:24.190 bit by a poisonous snake or a poisonous spider, you spark it, and go back to work. 02:27:25.790 --> 02:27:29.710 So, many theories abound on why there were poisonous snakes. 02:27:29.770 --> 02:27:30.630 Maybe they weren't poisonous. 02:27:31.430 --> 02:27:35.450 You can contact Carl Baugh, Glen Rose, Texas, about the hyperbaric chamber he has 02:27:35.450 --> 02:27:39.210 there, where he raised poisonous snakes, I believe it was copperheads, under 02:27:39.210 --> 02:27:43.190 hyperbaric conditions, high pressure oxygen, and increased electromagnetic 02:27:43.190 --> 02:27:46.170 field, which probably the earth had before the flood, stronger magnetic field. 02:27:46.810 --> 02:27:48.570 After two weeks, his snakes were not poisonous. 02:27:49.890 --> 02:27:52.890 They were still snakes, of course, but the poison was not harmful to the 02:27:52.890 --> 02:27:53.350 human body. 02:27:53.810 --> 02:28:01.130 So, a 50 milliamp spark at 60 hertz is a safe medical limit. 02:28:01.510 --> 02:28:05.050 Many stun guns are 3 milliamp, so it's not a problem at all. 02:28:05.130 --> 02:28:07.250 They say you should shock the bite as soon as possible. 02:28:08.030 --> 02:28:10.730 Straddle the bite with the probes and shock twice in an X pattern. 02:28:10.870 --> 02:28:14.050 If more than 30 minutes has passed, connect a wire to one probe and shock 02:28:14.050 --> 02:28:15.030 through the limb. 02:28:15.650 --> 02:28:19.310 This is how they are doing it in missionary schools, teaching them how to 02:28:19.310 --> 02:28:21.870 handle snake bites with stun guns. 02:28:22.110 --> 02:28:25.890 Or if you can't get that, get a spark plug off of a lawnmower or a chainsaw or a car 02:28:25.890 --> 02:28:27.050 or something and shock it. 02:28:27.430 --> 02:28:28.510 It will help neutralize the poison. 02:28:29.570 --> 02:28:31.190 What about the Ark of the Covenant? 02:28:32.090 --> 02:28:36.530 Well, in Jeremiah chapter 52, it tells us that they took away the cups, the spoons, 02:28:36.650 --> 02:28:36.950 the bowls. 02:28:37.090 --> 02:28:39.250 I mean, it mentions all kinds of little detail things out of the temple. 02:28:40.010 --> 02:28:42.170 In Ezra, it tells us about the stuff they brought back. 02:28:42.590 --> 02:28:45.850 And it says Nebuchadnezzar brought back stuff to the temple. 02:28:46.790 --> 02:28:50.130 Nebuchadnezzar took away the things and Ezra brought them back here. 02:28:50.410 --> 02:28:53.950 It mentions the knives, the gold and silver basins, the cups, everything. 02:28:54.230 --> 02:28:57.130 Little tiny stuff is all mentioned, but the Ark of the Covenant is never 02:28:57.130 --> 02:28:57.490 mentioned. 02:28:58.750 --> 02:29:00.130 What happened to the Ark of the Covenant? 02:29:00.890 --> 02:29:07.330 Well, in 2 Chronicles 26, it tells us Uzziah prepared cutting engines and 02:29:07.330 --> 02:29:08.970 machines to cast great stones. 02:29:09.050 --> 02:29:10.610 They made basically catapults. 02:29:11.070 --> 02:29:14.330 He put these on the walls of the city of Jerusalem to fling these massive stones 02:29:14.330 --> 02:29:15.410 out there to protect the city. 02:29:16.310 --> 02:29:18.510 Nebuchadnezzar came along and said, I would like to take over your city. 02:29:18.550 --> 02:29:19.290 I'd like all your gold. 02:29:19.390 --> 02:29:20.390 I want to kill all of you folks. 02:29:20.710 --> 02:29:22.810 So they, you know, had a big siege. 02:29:23.930 --> 02:29:27.410 Nebuchadnezzar apparently built a siege wall outside the range of the catapults. 02:29:28.150 --> 02:29:29.570 And he's just going to starve them out. 02:29:30.770 --> 02:29:33.890 In between the regular wall and the siege wall is no man's land. 02:29:34.730 --> 02:29:39.310 So apparently, Jeremiah, who was in the city, knew they were going to lose. 02:29:39.370 --> 02:29:40.470 God told him, you're going to lose. 02:29:40.530 --> 02:29:41.390 Tell the king to surrender. 02:29:41.550 --> 02:29:43.950 The king didn't want to surrender, so they ended up losing. 02:29:44.550 --> 02:29:50.790 But Jeremiah took the temple furniture outside the city wall and inside the siege 02:29:50.790 --> 02:29:54.510 wall, probably at night, and he hid the Ark of the Covenant, the table of 02:29:54.510 --> 02:29:55.830 showbread, the candlestick. 02:29:56.230 --> 02:30:00.010 A lot of these things were taken outside the city wall, but inside the siege wall 02:30:00.010 --> 02:30:01.570 and hidden in a cave system. 02:30:02.330 --> 02:30:06.390 If you look at the city of Jerusalem here, and pretend it's a clock, right about 10 o 02:30:06.390 --> 02:30:07.810 'clock you'll see Golgotha. 02:30:09.350 --> 02:30:13.410 Right there where Golgotha is, is apparently where this cave system was 02:30:13.410 --> 02:30:14.550 that Jeremiah hid it. 02:30:14.970 --> 02:30:18.830 If you read Jeremiah 27, it says, "...the nation and kingdom that will not 02:30:18.830 --> 02:30:22.730 serve the same Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, that nation will I punish." 02:30:22.730 --> 02:30:25.850 Jeremiah knew full well they were supposed to surrender to Nebuchadnezzar. 02:30:26.810 --> 02:30:29.230 The king didn't want to do it, and they didn't do it, so they ended up 02:30:29.230 --> 02:30:32.350 being killed, most of them, taken captive. 02:30:32.350 --> 02:30:37.550 So, Jeremiah took the temple furniture, apparently, outside the city wall in a 02:30:37.550 --> 02:30:43.670 cave system, a tunnel system, out to underneath where today is Golgotha, 02:30:43.930 --> 02:30:45.070 where Jesus was crucified. 02:30:47.190 --> 02:30:48.490 Ron Wyatt was a good friend of mine. 02:30:48.530 --> 02:30:50.970 He died in 99, but he did a lot of research over there. 02:30:51.870 --> 02:30:54.390 He says that he actually saw the Ark of the Covenant. 02:30:54.770 --> 02:30:56.950 I get people that criticize me for even mentioning Ron Wyatt. 02:30:57.050 --> 02:31:00.090 Well, I think he did good work and you ought to read what he's done. 02:31:00.270 --> 02:31:00.890 Read his research. 02:31:01.850 --> 02:31:06.210 He says the Ark of the Covenant was there in a box made of a big stone case and it 02:31:06.210 --> 02:31:07.690 was sealed up in a room. 02:31:07.870 --> 02:31:10.510 They found a big sponge over there. 02:31:10.590 --> 02:31:13.210 This cave system is pretty spread out. 02:31:13.870 --> 02:31:15.050 And he saw the Ark of the Covenant. 02:31:15.210 --> 02:31:17.690 He said all it had was the Ten Commandments in it, nothing else. 02:31:18.130 --> 02:31:20.290 I talked to Ron in 1982. 02:31:20.930 --> 02:31:22.970 In January 1982, Ron claims he found the Ark. 02:31:22.970 --> 02:31:24.350 I spent several hours talking to Ron. 02:31:24.410 --> 02:31:26.650 I said, Ron, do you realize how far-fetched this sounds? 02:31:27.630 --> 02:31:29.910 He said, Brother Hovind, if you were telling me I wouldn't believe you. 02:31:30.130 --> 02:31:31.610 He said, but it happened. 02:31:31.770 --> 02:31:32.090 I'll tell you. 02:31:32.390 --> 02:31:33.670 He said, I brought the Jewish authorities. 02:31:33.810 --> 02:31:34.650 I told them what I found. 02:31:34.890 --> 02:31:35.750 They haven't touched it. 02:31:35.790 --> 02:31:36.490 They're afraid to touch it. 02:31:36.530 --> 02:31:40.090 They learned from a guy named Uzzah years ago in 1 Chronicles when Uzzah touched the 02:31:40.090 --> 02:31:40.990 Ark and God killed him. 02:31:41.410 --> 02:31:44.630 So they haven't touched it but they do know it's there and they're going to bring 02:31:44.630 --> 02:31:45.410 it out as soon as they're ready. 02:31:46.710 --> 02:31:50.930 You can see the wyattmuseum.com website if you want to get more on the Ark of the 02:31:50.930 --> 02:31:51.150 Covenant. 02:31:51.730 --> 02:31:52.230 Next question. 02:31:52.750 --> 02:31:53.890 What about Bigfoot? 02:31:54.770 --> 02:31:59.630 Well, I have talked to 10 people now who have told me face-to-face they have seen a 02:31:59.630 --> 02:32:00.050 Bigfoot. 02:32:00.790 --> 02:32:03.850 Todd Jurassic, a friend of mine from Oklahoma, has done incredible research on 02:32:03.850 --> 02:32:04.470 Bigfoot. 02:32:05.130 --> 02:32:06.010 You can get a hold of Todd. 02:32:06.070 --> 02:32:07.270 He's writing a book about the creature. 02:32:07.650 --> 02:32:09.630 He's interviewed many folks who claim they've seen one. 02:32:10.110 --> 02:32:12.010 It appears that the Patterson film may be a fake. 02:32:12.130 --> 02:32:12.610 I don't know. 02:32:12.690 --> 02:32:15.370 They said somebody confessed that they were dressed up in an ape suit and all 02:32:15.370 --> 02:32:15.730 that stuff. 02:32:15.810 --> 02:32:16.170 I don't know. 02:32:16.810 --> 02:32:19.670 But there have been an awful lot of sightings that are pretty hard to explain 02:32:19.670 --> 02:32:22.110 that appear to be something like a Bigfoot. 02:32:22.650 --> 02:32:24.730 I don't know what it is, but here are the theories. 02:32:25.290 --> 02:32:27.350 Some people say they're all hoaxes or misidentified. 02:32:27.710 --> 02:32:28.650 That certainly could be true. 02:32:28.750 --> 02:32:29.170 I don't know. 02:32:30.710 --> 02:32:33.630 There are many stories that simply can't be explained. 02:32:33.710 --> 02:32:35.090 I don't think it's hoaxes or misidentified. 02:32:35.290 --> 02:32:39.530 There seem to be pretty reliable sightings with hard to explain things like deep 02:32:39.530 --> 02:32:42.090 footprints that a person couldn't make unless he weighed 600 pounds. 02:32:42.990 --> 02:32:45.710 By the way, who in their right mind would run around the woods in an ape suit? 02:32:46.850 --> 02:32:49.550 Do you realize how many rednecks would love to shoot one of those things and 02:32:49.550 --> 02:32:50.690 bring it and hang it on their wall? 02:32:51.130 --> 02:32:52.970 I mean, that's just not smart, okay? 02:32:53.590 --> 02:32:57.590 I don't think they're all just hoaxes or frauds, though some probably are. 02:32:58.270 --> 02:33:00.650 The second theory says they're an unidentified species of ape. 02:33:01.050 --> 02:33:03.730 The third theory says they're some of the hippies from the 60s that haven't come in 02:33:03.730 --> 02:33:03.910 yet. 02:33:04.230 --> 02:33:05.010 They're hairy and they stink. 02:33:06.230 --> 02:33:08.530 The fourth theory says they're aliens from another world. 02:33:08.670 --> 02:33:09.530 I doubt that one. 02:33:09.690 --> 02:33:12.470 So, the bottom line is I don't know who they are. 02:33:13.010 --> 02:33:15.930 There may not even be any, but if there's a Bigfoot, I think it would be interesting 02:33:15.930 --> 02:33:17.290 to find one and put it in my museum. 02:33:17.850 --> 02:33:19.690 We'd take good care of it, you know, feed it and all that stuff. 02:33:20.710 --> 02:33:24.110 Next question, who were the Nephilim in Genesis chapter 6? 02:33:24.730 --> 02:33:28.110 Genesis 6 says, "...men began to multiply in the face of the earth, and daughters 02:33:28.110 --> 02:33:28.930 were born unto them. 02:33:28.950 --> 02:33:34.350 And the sons of God," mentioned 11 times in the Bible, "...saw the daughters of 02:33:34.350 --> 02:33:39.850 men, that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose." And 02:33:39.850 --> 02:33:42.170 then it says, "...God said, My Spirit will not always strive with man. 02:33:42.270 --> 02:33:46.430 His day shall be a hundred and twenty years." Some people think that 120 is 02:33:46.430 --> 02:33:47.590 until the flood comes. 02:33:47.890 --> 02:33:49.750 Some people think nobody is going to live past 120. 02:33:50.110 --> 02:33:53.330 That can't be true, because after this was given, many people lived past 120. 02:33:54.390 --> 02:33:55.930 Shem lived past, he lived to 600. 02:33:56.550 --> 02:33:58.150 So, I don't think this is talking about lifespans. 02:33:58.190 --> 02:34:00.690 I think it's talking about, you know, until the flood comes, you've got 120 02:34:00.690 --> 02:34:01.190 years warning. 02:34:01.570 --> 02:34:01.690 Okay. 02:34:02.250 --> 02:34:06.110 Verse 4 though says, "...there were giants in the earth in those days, and also after 02:34:06.110 --> 02:34:10.090 that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, they bare children to 02:34:10.090 --> 02:34:10.250 them. 02:34:10.270 --> 02:34:15.050 The same became men of renown, men of old, men which were of renown." I 02:34:15.050 --> 02:34:18.130 think maybe the phrase and after that might separate this into two totally 02:34:18.130 --> 02:34:19.350 unrelated thoughts. 02:34:19.490 --> 02:34:22.790 I don't know, but the men of renown may not be the giants. 02:34:22.950 --> 02:34:24.090 It may be totally unrelated. 02:34:24.410 --> 02:34:25.890 But it's the only verses on the topic. 02:34:25.990 --> 02:34:27.170 There's just not much to go on. 02:34:27.490 --> 02:34:30.010 Apparently God doesn't want us to know about all this, or doesn't want us to 02:34:30.010 --> 02:34:31.070 dwell on this for some reason. 02:34:31.770 --> 02:34:35.230 But it says in verse 5, "...God saw the wickedness of man. 02:34:35.310 --> 02:34:39.350 It was great in the earth, and his thoughts were evil continually." There are 02:34:39.350 --> 02:34:41.030 several theories about what this passage means. 02:34:41.350 --> 02:34:46.570 One theory says, "...the sons of God were fallen angels that followed Satan." That's 02:34:46.570 --> 02:34:49.210 a very reasonable theory, and I think probably the correct one. 02:34:49.470 --> 02:34:51.810 But the problems with that are angels don't marry. 02:34:52.670 --> 02:34:55.330 But those passages say angels don't marry in heaven. 02:34:55.870 --> 02:34:57.410 Maybe they were allowed to marry on earth. 02:34:57.490 --> 02:34:58.070 I don't know. 02:34:58.970 --> 02:35:02.190 Of course, this idea that the third of the angels followed Satan comes from the 02:35:02.190 --> 02:35:05.710 Revelation 12 passage where it says a third of the stars were drawn down by his 02:35:05.710 --> 02:35:05.970 tail. 02:35:06.570 --> 02:35:07.410 That's in Revelation. 02:35:07.590 --> 02:35:11.430 I don't know how this could apply to the creation 6,000 years earlier, but it may 02:35:11.430 --> 02:35:15.170 indeed be that a third of the angels followed Lucifer in his rebellion. 02:35:15.550 --> 02:35:17.950 It seems to be the best answer anybody has come up with. 02:35:18.510 --> 02:35:21.830 The second theory says, "...the sons of God are the line of Seth marrying the line 02:35:21.830 --> 02:35:24.690 of Cain." I don't believe this one for a second, but a lot of people do. 02:35:25.490 --> 02:35:29.430 The reason being ungodly people marry God to people all the time. 02:35:30.290 --> 02:35:33.870 That doesn't produce giant children or any physical anomaly. 02:35:33.870 --> 02:35:37.150 I think it's unwise for Christians to marry non-Christians, but it certainly 02:35:37.150 --> 02:35:39.970 doesn't produce children that are deformed or something like that. 02:35:40.190 --> 02:35:40.970 Not physically, anyway. 02:35:41.810 --> 02:35:44.030 And there's no evidence that Seth's line were godly. 02:35:44.170 --> 02:35:45.350 I mean, they drowned in the flood too. 02:35:46.070 --> 02:35:48.990 So people say Seth's line was godly and Cain's was ungodly. 02:35:49.130 --> 02:35:50.190 Everybody was ungodly. 02:35:50.330 --> 02:35:51.170 You know, read the Scripture. 02:35:52.130 --> 02:35:55.210 There's a good tape series about the Nephilim by Chuck Missler from 02:35:55.210 --> 02:35:58.990 1-800-K-HOUSE-1 or his website khouse.org. 02:35:59.470 --> 02:36:02.270 Get Chuck Missler's article about the return of the Nephilim. 02:36:02.750 --> 02:36:06.930 I suspect though that before the flood came, these people, if it's demons 02:36:06.930 --> 02:36:10.570 marrying daughters of men, probably that's true. 02:36:11.130 --> 02:36:14.190 And they're producing some kind of half-demon, half-human children. 02:36:14.630 --> 02:36:16.950 And they were unusual, unusual physical traits. 02:36:17.090 --> 02:36:20.210 You know, able to fly, maybe, or giant people or super strong or something. 02:36:20.910 --> 02:36:22.490 Whatever happened, they all drowned in the flood. 02:36:23.730 --> 02:36:27.110 And probably Noah's kids, after the flood, would tell the stories to their kids about 02:36:27.110 --> 02:36:28.430 the guy that used to live down the street. 02:36:29.150 --> 02:36:31.570 And they'd tell their kids, you know, hey, you should see the guy that lived 02:36:31.570 --> 02:36:32.990 down the street from us before the flood came. 02:36:33.270 --> 02:36:35.050 He had wings on his feet and could fly or something. 02:36:35.730 --> 02:36:40.050 And this developed into the Greek and Babylonian legends of the gods and Zeus 02:36:40.050 --> 02:36:42.610 and Olympus and Mercury and Thor and all this kind of stuff. 02:36:42.670 --> 02:36:43.810 That's just one theory. 02:36:44.430 --> 02:36:45.530 Okay, next question. 02:36:46.010 --> 02:36:47.350 What about UFOs? 02:36:48.470 --> 02:36:49.010 Don't know. 02:36:49.870 --> 02:36:51.390 There are several theories about UFOs. 02:36:52.530 --> 02:36:54.490 I'll give you a couple of books you can read about that. 02:36:54.570 --> 02:36:55.730 I don't have an answer to the question. 02:36:56.490 --> 02:37:01.650 New Leaf Press has a good book called UFO End Time Delusion by David Allen Lewis. 02:37:01.830 --> 02:37:04.670 There's a shortened version of the same book, a Reader's Digest version, 02:37:05.170 --> 02:37:06.010 UFO 666. 02:37:06.950 --> 02:37:10.430 Alien Encounters by Chuck Missler, again, covers a lot on UFOs. 02:37:10.790 --> 02:37:13.750 The Cosmic Conspiracy by Stan Dale is a good one for UFOs. 02:37:14.170 --> 02:37:17.070 Basically, UFO sightings may fit into the following categories. 02:37:17.310 --> 02:37:20.310 They might be just simply misidentified natural objects like weather balloons, 02:37:20.430 --> 02:37:21.130 swamp gas, etc. 02:37:21.590 --> 02:37:24.210 They could be top secret or private experiments. 02:37:25.390 --> 02:37:29.190 There's Popular Mechanics from November 2000 showing an experiment with the U.S. 02:37:29.310 --> 02:37:32.890 government planning to build what would sure look like a UFO to somebody if they 02:37:32.890 --> 02:37:33.230 saw it. 02:37:33.990 --> 02:37:36.430 It may be satanic or demonic. 02:37:37.350 --> 02:37:39.010 Satan can only be one place at a time. 02:37:39.150 --> 02:37:40.830 God is all places at all times. 02:37:42.170 --> 02:37:45.250 And most of the authors I shared with you earlier fall into the category of saying 02:37:45.250 --> 02:37:49.550 that there are two kinds of UFOs, top secret government stuff and demonic. 02:37:50.370 --> 02:37:51.470 Best I can do on that one. 02:37:52.250 --> 02:37:52.690 Next question. 02:37:52.730 --> 02:37:54.750 How long were they in the Garden of Eden before they sinned? 02:37:55.470 --> 02:37:58.930 Well, the Bible says Adam lived 130 years and had a son named Seth. 02:37:59.650 --> 02:38:02.230 Of course, now before that they had Cain and Abel, but no dates are given. 02:38:03.530 --> 02:38:06.330 They could have been in the Garden for 100 years before they sinned. 02:38:07.110 --> 02:38:10.090 We know on day 7 God looked at everything and it was very good. 02:38:10.570 --> 02:38:11.710 Satan hadn't fallen yet. 02:38:11.970 --> 02:38:14.030 Adam hadn't sinned yet after the first week. 02:38:14.490 --> 02:38:16.410 We cover more on this on videotape number 2. 02:38:17.070 --> 02:38:20.250 But probably they were in the Garden maybe 100 years. 02:38:21.250 --> 02:38:24.610 Certainly Satan didn't fall before that. 02:38:25.310 --> 02:38:28.210 And the Bible says God drove him out after they sinned out of the Garden of Eden and 02:38:28.210 --> 02:38:30.350 put the flaming sword there and the cherubims and all that stuff. 02:38:30.450 --> 02:38:31.550 And Eve is the mother of all living. 02:38:31.870 --> 02:38:33.730 So there are no other life forms on this planet. 02:38:34.850 --> 02:38:35.370 Next question. 02:38:35.870 --> 02:38:38.510 People say, aren't created and made different words? 02:38:40.050 --> 02:38:42.030 Well, they are used interchangeably all through Scripture. 02:38:42.490 --> 02:38:46.450 Here is a list here and we will have these on our website about how the heavens and 02:38:46.450 --> 02:38:48.350 earth are made and the heavens and earth are created. 02:38:48.850 --> 02:38:52.230 The firmament was made in Genesis 1 but it was created in Psalm 148. 02:38:52.890 --> 02:38:55.470 There are many scriptures that show, Genesis 2, 4 for instance. 02:38:55.950 --> 02:38:58.810 These are the generations of the heaven and the earth when they were created in 02:38:58.810 --> 02:39:00.670 the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. 02:39:01.070 --> 02:39:02.830 Here the words are clearly used interchangeably. 02:39:03.490 --> 02:39:06.950 Bible says He made the heavens, He made the trees, He created the trees, 02:39:07.050 --> 02:39:08.910 He made the animals, He created the animals. 02:39:09.450 --> 02:39:12.350 He made animals on land and He created animals on land. 02:39:13.010 --> 02:39:14.690 He made man, He created man. 02:39:14.770 --> 02:39:16.350 There are dozens of verses for this. 02:39:16.710 --> 02:39:18.550 So no, the words are not different. 02:39:18.650 --> 02:39:22.310 It is just a matter of saying the same thing in two different ways. 02:39:22.350 --> 02:39:23.450 We do the same thing in English. 02:39:23.510 --> 02:39:25.810 We will say the guy was huge, he was big, he was gigantic. 02:39:26.170 --> 02:39:27.110 We do it for emphasis. 02:39:28.210 --> 02:39:30.830 It says, He created the old Jacob and formed the old Israel. 02:39:31.390 --> 02:39:34.810 So words created and made are used interchangeably all through Scripture. 02:39:35.510 --> 02:39:38.590 Don't let somebody tell you that this is proof for the gap theory or something else 02:39:38.590 --> 02:39:39.530 because it is not. 02:39:40.390 --> 02:39:41.110 Another question. 02:39:41.110 --> 02:39:43.590 People say, where can I get more information on creation? 02:39:44.110 --> 02:39:45.430 Well, there are many good sources. 02:39:45.550 --> 02:39:48.230 We have a lot of links on our web page, DrDino.com. 02:39:48.610 --> 02:39:53.790 We offer four college courses through our ministry CSE 101, 102, 103, and 104. 02:39:54.310 --> 02:39:57.910 In those courses we have taken our seminar and I didn't skip a thing. 02:39:57.990 --> 02:40:01.230 We just chased every rabbit and kicked every dog and went through everything we 02:40:01.230 --> 02:40:02.570 could find on creation and evolution. 02:40:02.690 --> 02:40:05.410 It turned out to be 60 hours of teaching on the subject. 02:40:06.010 --> 02:40:06.830 You are welcome to get that. 02:40:07.310 --> 02:40:10.390 Landmark Freedom Baptist Curriculum is really good if you want stuff on creation 02:40:10.390 --> 02:40:11.590 for school ministries. 02:40:12.870 --> 02:40:17.270 Many people produce curriculum on creation and we will be glad to steer you to some 02:40:17.270 --> 02:40:17.550 of those. 02:40:17.630 --> 02:40:20.570 We link a lot of these on our website, DrDino.com. 02:40:21.330 --> 02:40:21.790 Next question. 02:40:21.930 --> 02:40:23.990 People say, do you really have a Ph.D.? 02:40:23.990 --> 02:40:27.690 Boy, you would be amazed how many folks in debates say, you don't have a real Ph.D. 02:40:28.230 --> 02:40:30.650 Well, I think you have the right to face your accusers obviously. 02:40:31.390 --> 02:40:34.910 If somebody is saying, I don't have a Ph .D., then I want you to come face me face 02:40:34.910 --> 02:40:35.970 to face and let's talk about it. 02:40:36.030 --> 02:40:37.510 Give me a chance to defend myself. 02:40:38.130 --> 02:40:41.130 I'm always ready to answer questions and no questions are, I'm not afraid of 02:40:41.130 --> 02:40:41.370 anything. 02:40:41.490 --> 02:40:42.290 I'm not hiding a thing. 02:40:42.670 --> 02:40:46.330 But when somebody starts asking, criticizing somebody's degree or the 02:40:46.330 --> 02:40:50.510 person personally, it's pretty obvious they're losing the argument on the merit 02:40:50.510 --> 02:40:53.650 of the arguments and they're trying to find, shoot the messenger instead of deal 02:40:53.650 --> 02:40:54.170 with the message. 02:40:54.790 --> 02:40:56.250 So, Ph.D. 02:40:56.290 --> 02:40:58.770 in the dictionary is Doctor of Philosophy. 02:40:58.950 --> 02:40:59.970 That's all it means. 02:41:00.250 --> 02:41:01.370 A Doctor of Philosophy. 02:41:01.870 --> 02:41:04.190 Here's a photograph or a picture of my Ph .D. 02:41:04.210 --> 02:41:05.930 from Patriot University in Colorado. 02:41:06.610 --> 02:41:10.190 Patriot University was part of Hilltop Baptist Church for many years. 02:41:10.770 --> 02:41:12.570 That's where they were when I got my degree from there. 02:41:13.130 --> 02:41:16.910 Then they have now become independent and they moved out to Alamosa, Colorado, 02:41:17.090 --> 02:41:19.990 about 40-50 miles away from Colorado Springs. 02:41:20.710 --> 02:41:26.130 They are an independent Baptist Church that started a seminary to help people get 02:41:26.130 --> 02:41:30.090 degrees that were in full-time Christian service, which was me. 02:41:30.130 --> 02:41:31.570 It took me nine years to finish mine. 02:41:32.050 --> 02:41:33.110 I worked very hard for mine. 02:41:33.170 --> 02:41:35.690 I don't know if people worked for theirs or not, but I worked hard for mine. 02:41:35.890 --> 02:41:36.970 And I got a Ph.D. 02:41:37.030 --> 02:41:39.930 If you don't like it, then call me Bubba or Kent or Hey You and let's get back to 02:41:39.930 --> 02:41:40.290 the topic. 02:41:40.430 --> 02:41:42.170 You don't have to call me Doctor if you don't like it. 02:41:43.570 --> 02:41:46.250 Patriot University was established in 1980. 02:41:46.830 --> 02:41:49.750 It's an extension of Hilltop Baptist Church and it offered a Ph.D. 02:41:49.790 --> 02:41:50.290 in Education. 02:41:50.910 --> 02:41:54.830 I spent many years working for my degree and I learned a lot and I got a Ph.D. 02:41:54.870 --> 02:41:55.390 in 1991. 02:41:56.450 --> 02:42:00.270 They then moved to College Heights Baptist Church in Alamosa, Colorado, where it 02:42:00.270 --> 02:42:01.310 continues to operate today. 02:42:03.310 --> 02:42:09.210 Some people put a picture of the church parsonage on their website and said, 02:42:09.390 --> 02:42:10.890 this is where Hovind got his Ph.D. 02:42:11.230 --> 02:42:14.270 Well, the church parsonage has the same address as the church. 02:42:15.210 --> 02:42:16.950 And how that applies to me, I don't know. 02:42:17.050 --> 02:42:19.810 I mean, it was a Hilltop Baptist when I got mine and now it's in Alamosa. 02:42:20.250 --> 02:42:22.710 This really shows they're desperate and dumb, in my opinion. 02:42:24.090 --> 02:42:26.030 Some people have ridiculed the size of the school. 02:42:26.670 --> 02:42:31.090 Well, there's about three Ph.D.s per year and about 25 graduates a year out of 02:42:31.090 --> 02:42:31.830 Patriot University. 02:42:31.910 --> 02:42:33.430 It's a small Christian college, no question. 02:42:35.290 --> 02:42:38.030 It would be interesting if you could see the look on these guys' faces if they knew 02:42:38.030 --> 02:42:41.130 the size of the school that many of our early presidents or congressmen or 02:42:41.130 --> 02:42:42.610 military leaders graduated from. 02:42:43.550 --> 02:42:45.150 If Harvard offers a Ph.D. 02:42:45.310 --> 02:42:49.370 degree program and only has three students in it, which is often the case, 02:42:49.430 --> 02:42:53.030 by the way, in many schools, one or two students many times in a Ph.D. 02:42:53.090 --> 02:42:54.810 program, what does that mean? 02:42:55.290 --> 02:42:56.350 It means they're not accredited. 02:42:56.410 --> 02:42:59.010 It means they're no good because they've only got one student or two students. 02:42:59.210 --> 02:42:59.710 I mean, come on. 02:43:00.070 --> 02:43:00.570 Use your head. 02:43:00.590 --> 02:43:01.150 It doesn't mean a thing. 02:43:01.790 --> 02:43:03.070 They say, is it a diploma mill? 02:43:03.430 --> 02:43:05.290 You know, they're just cranking out these diplomas and selling them. 02:43:05.330 --> 02:43:06.270 You can buy it for a hundred bucks. 02:43:06.670 --> 02:43:07.770 Well, that's not the case at all. 02:43:07.890 --> 02:43:08.070 Okay? 02:43:08.330 --> 02:43:09.130 I worked hard for mine. 02:43:09.230 --> 02:43:10.510 If you don't like it, don't call me that. 02:43:10.670 --> 02:43:11.570 Do whatever you want. 02:43:12.150 --> 02:43:14.210 Patriot has 25 graduates each year. 02:43:14.290 --> 02:43:15.950 Three to five are getting doctorate degrees. 02:43:16.490 --> 02:43:19.550 My 30-year study on creation led me to start this ministry. 02:43:20.330 --> 02:43:21.630 Full-time, 1981. 02:43:21.830 --> 02:43:23.710 Started 1989, but full-time, 1991. 02:43:24.210 --> 02:43:26.650 I speak a little over 800 times a year now on this subject. 02:43:27.070 --> 02:43:28.250 I've had over 80 debates. 02:43:28.390 --> 02:43:31.050 I've been a guest on 5,000 radio, TV, call, and talk shows. 02:43:31.590 --> 02:43:33.190 My itinerary is available on my website. 02:43:34.090 --> 02:43:37.610 If any evolutionist is interested in a public debate, they're welcome to contact 02:43:37.610 --> 02:43:41.030 me to arrange a time when I'm in their area and I'll have a debate in a public 02:43:41.030 --> 02:43:41.990 place like a university. 02:43:43.070 --> 02:43:45.930 If they don't think I have a doctor's degree, then call me Bubba and let's just 02:43:45.930 --> 02:43:47.190 discuss the topic of creation. 02:43:47.710 --> 02:43:51.210 So we've been offering a quarter million dollars for those that have real evidence 02:43:51.210 --> 02:43:51.710 for evolution. 02:43:52.970 --> 02:43:55.530 And I think it's one of the dumbest theories in the history of the world. 02:43:56.110 --> 02:43:59.370 Darwin's only degree was in theology, but he's called a scientist in the 02:43:59.370 --> 02:43:59.770 textbooks. 02:43:59.850 --> 02:44:00.370 That's interesting. 02:44:01.570 --> 02:44:03.290 Who determines who a scientist is anyway? 02:44:03.370 --> 02:44:04.270 Who's making this call? 02:44:04.550 --> 02:44:06.750 A person who studies science is a scientist. 02:44:07.330 --> 02:44:08.830 Why don't they call him Reverend Darwin? 02:44:09.010 --> 02:44:09.750 That was his degree. 02:44:10.970 --> 02:44:14.110 Dr. Morris pointed out, it's worth noting that almost none of the leaders of this 02:44:14.110 --> 02:44:18.110 evolutionary revival have been trained as scientists in the modern sense. 02:44:18.630 --> 02:44:23.010 None were educated as physicians, as physicists or chemists or biologists or 02:44:23.010 --> 02:44:25.510 geologists or astronomers or other natural scientists. 02:44:25.970 --> 02:44:29.430 Charles Darwin was an apostate divinity student whose only degree was in theology. 02:44:29.770 --> 02:44:30.970 Charles Lyell was a lawyer. 02:44:31.310 --> 02:44:32.690 William Smith was a surveyor. 02:44:33.430 --> 02:44:35.350 James Hutton was an agriculturist. 02:44:35.450 --> 02:44:36.650 John Playfair, a mathematician. 02:44:36.870 --> 02:44:38.070 Robert Chambers, a journalist. 02:44:38.230 --> 02:44:42.550 Alfred Wallace had little education at all and a brief apprenticeship in surveying. 02:44:42.790 --> 02:44:45.270 Thomas Huxley had a very indifferent education in medicine. 02:44:45.670 --> 02:44:49.850 Spencer received practically no formal education except in railroad engineering. 02:44:50.310 --> 02:44:52.390 Thomas Malthus was a theologian and economist. 02:44:52.590 --> 02:44:54.510 Erasmus Darwin was a medical doctor and a poet. 02:44:54.510 --> 02:44:57.490 Yet all of these guys are the founders of the evolution theory. 02:44:58.310 --> 02:45:02.110 Only Jean-Baptiste Lamarck in France and Ernst Haeckel in Germany seemed to have a 02:45:02.110 --> 02:45:04.130 bona fide education in a branch of science. 02:45:04.910 --> 02:45:06.890 And they all had their particular anti-Christian agenda. 02:45:07.570 --> 02:45:12.110 Haeckel and Lamarck were wildly wrong and they used simple lies to promote the 02:45:12.110 --> 02:45:12.690 evolution theory. 02:45:12.890 --> 02:45:13.850 So, summary. 02:45:14.270 --> 02:45:15.010 I earned a Ph.D. 02:45:15.050 --> 02:45:16.650 from a non-accredited Christian university. 02:45:17.370 --> 02:45:19.910 Thousands of major world leaders throughout history had no degrees of any 02:45:19.910 --> 02:45:20.170 kind. 02:45:21.190 --> 02:45:25.590 Thousands of major universities today offer distance learning, website learning, 02:45:25.730 --> 02:45:26.370 internet site. 02:45:26.630 --> 02:45:29.410 You don't have to go to the school to get your degree in many cases. 02:45:29.530 --> 02:45:30.390 There's nothing wrong with that. 02:45:31.310 --> 02:45:34.670 Thousands of people who attend classes at universities cheat, lie, or bribe their 02:45:34.670 --> 02:45:35.490 way to get a degree. 02:45:36.210 --> 02:45:39.830 Getting a degree from an accredited university does not guarantee any level of 02:45:39.830 --> 02:45:42.170 intelligence or accuracy of beliefs. 02:45:42.550 --> 02:45:44.530 Science has a long history of teaching things that are wrong. 02:45:45.050 --> 02:45:47.950 If you don't like my degree, call me Kent and let's get back to the topic. 02:45:48.670 --> 02:45:51.930 So, if I was dumb and desperate, I would start attacking the person's 02:45:51.930 --> 02:45:55.370 degree instead of attacking the subject, which is exactly what's going on. 02:45:55.450 --> 02:45:57.670 Help them to grow up, get a life, and let's get back to the topic. 02:45:59.370 --> 02:46:00.090 Next question. 02:46:00.570 --> 02:46:02.350 People ask me, what about the Red Sea crossing? 02:46:02.450 --> 02:46:06.370 I mean, if a whole army crossed the Red Sea, there ought to be some evidence to 02:46:06.370 --> 02:46:06.630 this. 02:46:06.910 --> 02:46:09.030 Wouldn't you find evidence for the Bible being true? 02:46:09.830 --> 02:46:15.190 Well, in Exodus 14, it says they're going to encamp by the sea where God commanded 02:46:15.190 --> 02:46:15.510 them to. 02:46:16.130 --> 02:46:19.530 Exodus 14 tells us that when they went across, the waters, they went on dry 02:46:19.530 --> 02:46:23.250 ground and the water was a wall on the right hand and on the left hand. 02:46:23.790 --> 02:46:25.810 So, they're not wading across shallow water. 02:46:26.730 --> 02:46:28.050 There's actually a miracle. 02:46:28.210 --> 02:46:31.370 They're down in the sea with the water as a wall on both sides. 02:46:31.890 --> 02:46:32.310 Interesting. 02:46:33.290 --> 02:46:35.710 It says, God took off the chariot wheels of the Egyptians. 02:46:36.830 --> 02:46:38.610 That's what the Bible says in Exodus 14. 02:46:38.870 --> 02:46:41.950 And the waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen. 02:46:42.810 --> 02:46:43.090 Alright. 02:46:43.710 --> 02:46:47.190 Well, if you look at the country of Egypt, to the right side is the Red Sea. 02:46:48.110 --> 02:46:49.690 It has two branches to it. 02:46:50.110 --> 02:46:52.050 The left branch is the Gulf of Suez. 02:46:52.130 --> 02:46:54.130 The right branch is the Gulf of Aqaba. 02:46:54.910 --> 02:46:57.530 In between is what is often called the Sinai Peninsula. 02:46:58.790 --> 02:47:04.530 A Phoenician princess pointed at a mountain one day and said, I think that's 02:47:04.530 --> 02:47:05.090 Mount Sinai. 02:47:05.130 --> 02:47:08.270 She had no clue where Mount Sinai was, but she said that's Mount Sinai. 02:47:08.350 --> 02:47:11.110 Everybody calls it Mount Sinai even today, but it's not Mount Sinai. 02:47:11.270 --> 02:47:12.790 It can't be as we'll see in a minute. 02:47:13.390 --> 02:47:16.390 Apparently, the children of Israel followed this red line out of Egypt all 02:47:16.390 --> 02:47:20.270 the way across what is now called the Sinai Peninsula and crossed over at the 02:47:20.270 --> 02:47:21.230 Gulf of Aqaba. 02:47:24.070 --> 02:47:27.630 I got this information from Ron Wyatt and Richard Reeves who spent years over there 02:47:27.630 --> 02:47:28.290 researching this. 02:47:29.290 --> 02:47:33.730 There's a dry riverbed where that red line is that flows right up and ends up at the 02:47:33.730 --> 02:47:34.850 Gulf of Aqaba. 02:47:35.290 --> 02:47:37.970 Here you see it, the Gulf of Aqaba in the distance there. 02:47:38.410 --> 02:47:42.230 And there's actually a pathway between the mountains, very rugged terrain. 02:47:42.690 --> 02:47:45.190 It ends up on this beach right there where the arrow is pointing. 02:47:45.650 --> 02:47:47.470 This is a satellite view kind of from the north. 02:47:48.490 --> 02:47:53.670 And that is actually a giant beach able to hold several million people. 02:47:54.490 --> 02:47:58.290 No way to flee north or south because once you get out there you are flat stuck. 02:47:58.450 --> 02:48:01.070 There's mountains all around, a little valley that you just came through, 02:48:01.450 --> 02:48:02.490 and no place to get out. 02:48:03.130 --> 02:48:06.770 Apparently the children of Israel got trapped there with Pharaoh's army closing 02:48:06.770 --> 02:48:07.930 in the gap behind them. 02:48:08.500 --> 02:48:11.950 At the south end of this beach many years ago, Ron and his sons found a pillar. 02:48:13.010 --> 02:48:14.510 And they dragged it out and scrubbed it off. 02:48:14.570 --> 02:48:17.050 And they could only read a few words on it, mostly pretty eroded. 02:48:17.190 --> 02:48:20.710 But they found another pillar just like it on the other side in Arabia, in Saudi 02:48:20.710 --> 02:48:21.030 Arabia. 02:48:21.450 --> 02:48:25.030 And the pillar said, this was erected by King Solomon to commemorate the crossing 02:48:25.030 --> 02:48:25.770 of the Red Sea. 02:48:27.670 --> 02:48:30.390 The maps of the depth of the water there are interesting. 02:48:30.930 --> 02:48:32.430 There's called the Eilat Deep. 02:48:32.530 --> 02:48:38.410 I went swimming and went down to visit Eilat, Israel where it comes down and 02:48:38.410 --> 02:48:39.950 touches the Red Sea here. 02:48:41.490 --> 02:48:46.990 It's about 5,000 feet deep in here, in the Gulf of Aqaba, except for this one 02:48:46.990 --> 02:48:48.790 spot where it's only 900 feet deep. 02:48:49.210 --> 02:48:51.070 There's a natural underwater land bridge. 02:48:51.370 --> 02:48:55.130 It's about 8 miles wide and only 900 feet deep. 02:48:56.410 --> 02:48:59.270 A friend of mine, Aaron, went over there and said, look folks, this is absolutely 02:48:59.270 --> 02:48:59.830 correct. 02:49:00.310 --> 02:49:05.850 The Israeli bathymetric chart says this is only 900 feet deep here. 02:49:05.870 --> 02:49:08.010 And some people are criticizing Ron Wyatt saying it's not true. 02:49:08.090 --> 02:49:08.790 There's not a bridge there. 02:49:08.870 --> 02:49:10.310 Yes, there is an underwater land bridge. 02:49:10.850 --> 02:49:13.550 So Ron and his sons went out there scuba diving out as deep as they could go, 02:49:13.610 --> 02:49:18.450 150 feet or so, and found chariot wheels with no chariots attached and chariots 02:49:18.450 --> 02:49:19.310 with no wheels attached. 02:49:19.710 --> 02:49:24.050 They found rib cages of humans, rib cages and hooves of animals that are 02:49:24.050 --> 02:49:26.890 fossilized, not fossilized but covered with coral. 02:49:27.590 --> 02:49:31.090 You can go to the museum in Cornersville, Tennessee south of Nashville, about 50 02:49:31.090 --> 02:49:31.350 miles. 02:49:32.030 --> 02:49:35.250 And I think it's exit 27 and there's a converted gas station right there which is 02:49:35.250 --> 02:49:37.490 the Wyatt Museum and see these things for yourself. 02:49:38.010 --> 02:49:40.850 See the horse hoof all dried up and dehydrated. 02:49:41.790 --> 02:49:46.970 The 18th Dynasty in Egypt is the only one to use the 8 spoke, 6 spoke and 4 spoke 02:49:46.970 --> 02:49:48.890 chariot wheels and all of those are found at the bottom. 02:49:49.510 --> 02:49:52.950 On the right side over here you see a mountain called Jebel al-Lawz which means 02:49:52.950 --> 02:49:57.350 Mountain of Laws and that is Mount Sinai. 02:49:58.130 --> 02:50:01.330 The Bible says in Galatians 4 Sinai is in Arabia. 02:50:01.970 --> 02:50:04.050 Why are they looking for it in the Sinai Peninsula? 02:50:04.210 --> 02:50:04.970 It's not even there. 02:50:05.070 --> 02:50:05.610 It can't be. 02:50:06.050 --> 02:50:10.530 Apparently this is Mount Sinai, black on top. 02:50:10.610 --> 02:50:13.110 Whether that's from the burning or not I don't know but it could be that it 02:50:13.110 --> 02:50:14.910 actually burned and melted the rocks on top. 02:50:15.890 --> 02:50:19.730 At the bottom of this mountain there's a bunch of rocks with a, this one has a calf 02:50:19.730 --> 02:50:20.350 drawn on it. 02:50:22.950 --> 02:50:25.890 They think probably this is the altar they built with the calf. 02:50:26.650 --> 02:50:30.070 Exodus 20, God told them to smite the rock and water would come out for the people to 02:50:30.070 --> 02:50:30.330 drink. 02:50:31.190 --> 02:50:34.750 Most Bible pictures show a little stream of water coming out. 02:50:34.830 --> 02:50:37.130 They had several million people plus their animals. 02:50:37.230 --> 02:50:39.330 They're not going to feed them with a stream of water like that. 02:50:39.350 --> 02:50:39.970 It's not going to work. 02:50:40.690 --> 02:50:42.490 It had to be water gushing out of there. 02:50:42.530 --> 02:50:43.430 Actually it had to be a river. 02:50:44.630 --> 02:50:46.490 There's this big boulder you can see here in the background. 02:50:47.190 --> 02:50:49.630 This is as big as a 5 story building. 02:50:50.170 --> 02:50:55.190 It is split right in half, completely in half and on both sides there are erosion 02:50:55.190 --> 02:50:55.670 marks. 02:50:56.070 --> 02:51:00.410 This may be the rock that Moses smote and the water came gushing out of both sides. 02:51:00.550 --> 02:51:02.810 A river flowed out and watered everybody. 02:51:04.310 --> 02:51:06.090 Okay, people say, what about Sodom and Gomorrah? 02:51:06.170 --> 02:51:06.730 Where is that at? 02:51:06.910 --> 02:51:11.230 Well, the Lord said in Genesis 19 He would rain upon Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone. 02:51:11.610 --> 02:51:13.070 Brimstone is burning sulfur. 02:51:13.970 --> 02:51:18.250 If you look at this map of the Dead Sea you can see there are five spots Zoboam, 02:51:18.410 --> 02:51:21.150 Admah, Gomorrah, Sodom, and Zoar. 02:51:21.490 --> 02:51:24.870 These apparently are where the cities were of those five cities that were burned. 02:51:25.810 --> 02:51:29.950 When I was on top of Masada in March of 2002 I went over to Israel. 02:51:30.550 --> 02:51:35.670 You can look down from the top of Masada and see a square which is apparently where 02:51:35.670 --> 02:51:36.410 Sodom was. 02:51:37.470 --> 02:51:38.730 The city is all burned. 02:51:39.570 --> 02:51:42.810 You don't even tell it is a city until you get very far away from it. 02:51:42.850 --> 02:51:44.610 It is mentioned in Deuteronomy chapter 29. 02:51:44.730 --> 02:51:48.010 It is mentioned in Genesis chapter 14 about the kings of Sodom, Gomorrah, 02:51:48.110 --> 02:51:48.850 Admah, and Zoboam. 02:51:49.310 --> 02:51:53.530 These guys got in trouble and basically the Lord had to judge their cities here. 02:51:54.370 --> 02:51:56.670 So apparently those are the five cities that burned. 02:51:57.510 --> 02:52:01.430 If you get up real close to this thing you realize actually if you look at the walls 02:52:01.430 --> 02:52:04.930 it looks like just ash cliffs. 02:52:05.170 --> 02:52:09.070 But the closer you get the more you realize that is a city that was burned. 02:52:09.850 --> 02:52:11.930 And the bricks have actually turned to ash. 02:52:13.370 --> 02:52:18.250 Peppered in that ash there are thousands, actually millions, of sulfur balls. 02:52:18.710 --> 02:52:20.070 I've got some right here on the table. 02:52:20.550 --> 02:52:23.970 These are actually pieces of 99% sulfur. 02:52:25.070 --> 02:52:28.330 The outside is kind of a white color but if you break it open it is a little more 02:52:28.330 --> 02:52:28.990 yellow inside. 02:52:29.310 --> 02:52:30.930 Apparently it burned itself out. 02:52:31.370 --> 02:52:35.550 Golf ball size, variety of size, it literally rained sulfur on that city. 02:52:36.390 --> 02:52:40.470 In the ash, which is apparently burned brick, there are little indentations where 02:52:40.470 --> 02:52:41.590 the sulfur balls are. 02:52:42.350 --> 02:52:43.270 One fell out of here. 02:52:43.990 --> 02:52:45.530 There is one piece of one over here. 02:52:46.430 --> 02:52:48.770 This is a piece of ash from that area. 02:52:49.250 --> 02:52:53.030 And many folks, including myself, think this is the actual Sodom and 02:52:53.030 --> 02:52:54.970 Gomorrah and we have the physical evidence for it. 02:52:55.090 --> 02:52:57.230 It literally burned the cities to ash. 02:52:57.990 --> 02:53:03.090 This may be what is called a ziggurat or something to guard the opening at the 02:53:03.090 --> 02:53:03.310 city. 02:53:03.990 --> 02:53:06.810 And Ron Wyatt and Richard Reeve spent a lot of time over there and are very 02:53:06.810 --> 02:53:09.630 convinced, as am I, that this is Sodom and Gomorrah. 02:53:10.030 --> 02:53:10.490 Next question. 02:53:10.610 --> 02:53:12.330 People say, don't wisdom teeth prove evolution? 02:53:13.450 --> 02:53:13.890 No. 02:53:14.450 --> 02:53:17.770 It is true that about 60% of the population has trouble with their wisdom 02:53:17.770 --> 02:53:18.010 teeth. 02:53:18.090 --> 02:53:20.930 They have to get them removed or they become infected or impacted or something 02:53:20.930 --> 02:53:22.990 like that because their jaw is not big enough to grow in. 02:53:23.670 --> 02:53:25.910 The fact of the matter is this is not evidence for evolution. 02:53:26.070 --> 02:53:28.990 This is evidence that man used to be bigger and live longer and develop more 02:53:28.990 --> 02:53:29.990 slowly in the past. 02:53:30.750 --> 02:53:35.330 If before the flood people lived to be 900 and they developed slowly and you are a 02:53:35.330 --> 02:53:38.130 kid until you are 40 and you are a teenager until you are 60 and you get 02:53:38.130 --> 02:53:42.590 married when you are 80, life was just slower and more relaxed. 02:53:43.130 --> 02:53:43.870 They would be bigger. 02:53:43.990 --> 02:53:46.830 By the time you are 20, it is time for that last tooth to come in to fill in your 02:53:46.830 --> 02:53:47.890 jaw which is still growing. 02:53:48.530 --> 02:53:51.830 Jack Kawazo, the dentist from New Jersey, has an excellent book dealing with this 02:53:51.830 --> 02:53:52.530 topic a little bit. 02:53:52.850 --> 02:53:57.530 It is called Buried Alive, showing how the human face never stops growing and people 02:53:57.530 --> 02:54:02.190 living to be 200-300 would need this wisdom tooth because they would be so much 02:54:02.190 --> 02:54:02.470 bigger. 02:54:03.450 --> 02:54:06.070 So, the Neanderthals actually used their wisdom teeth. 02:54:06.430 --> 02:54:07.910 They show signs of wear on them. 02:54:08.070 --> 02:54:10.890 The Neanderthals probably were people living to be 200 years old. 02:54:11.010 --> 02:54:13.330 Get the book Buried Alive if you want more on that. 02:54:13.330 --> 02:54:13.930 Next question. 02:54:14.510 --> 02:54:16.890 People say, Brother Hovind, in your seminar and in your debates, sometimes you 02:54:16.890 --> 02:54:18.410 are sarcastic with the atheists. 02:54:18.990 --> 02:54:20.050 I know and I am sorry. 02:54:20.410 --> 02:54:22.230 That is just a personality quirk I guess. 02:54:22.290 --> 02:54:22.910 I am working on it. 02:54:23.310 --> 02:54:27.690 But, in my over 30 years of ministry, I have seen thousands of lives changed by 02:54:27.690 --> 02:54:30.630 the teachings on creation, including many scoffers who have come to Christ. 02:54:30.950 --> 02:54:32.170 I am not trying to drive them off. 02:54:32.330 --> 02:54:33.450 I am trying to bring them to the Lord. 02:54:33.550 --> 02:54:34.250 Trust me on this one. 02:54:35.090 --> 02:54:39.370 But, the Bible says, Beware lest any man spoil you with your philosophy and vain 02:54:39.370 --> 02:54:39.890 deceit. 02:54:39.890 --> 02:54:43.190 I get a little upset, I guess, when I see these people with their evil 02:54:43.190 --> 02:54:45.990 philosophies spoiling children that come to their class. 02:54:46.590 --> 02:54:50.450 So, professors that teach evolution, I just don't have a lot of patience with 02:54:50.450 --> 02:54:50.530 them. 02:54:50.610 --> 02:54:50.890 I am sorry. 02:54:51.090 --> 02:54:54.790 I think if I was going to rescue some people who were being killed by Hitler's 02:54:54.790 --> 02:54:57.350 guards, I would have a hard time being nice to the guards. 02:54:57.510 --> 02:54:59.310 I would want to kill the guards and rescue the people. 02:55:00.030 --> 02:55:03.590 So, it is not that you are mad at them necessarily. 02:55:04.490 --> 02:55:05.790 You are mad at what they are doing. 02:55:06.030 --> 02:55:07.650 I am mad at what the professors are doing. 02:55:07.970 --> 02:55:10.970 The Bible says, If you smite the scorner, the simple will beware. 02:55:11.550 --> 02:55:15.570 So, I guess I am a little hard on the atheists because their philosophy is 02:55:15.570 --> 02:55:19.730 destroying others and you have to stop them somehow. 02:55:19.730 --> 02:55:23.010 If you really give them a hard time intellectually and prove that they are 02:55:23.010 --> 02:55:25.410 wrong, make a fool of them, other people are going to listen and say, Oh, 02:55:25.490 --> 02:55:27.150 wow, I better not believe in evolution. 02:55:27.310 --> 02:55:28.810 So, it is kind of a tactic to help do that. 02:55:29.350 --> 02:55:32.150 The Bible says, When the scorner is punished, the simple is made wise. 02:55:32.290 --> 02:55:33.190 Proverbs chapter 21. 02:55:33.470 --> 02:55:36.270 The Bible says, Cast out the scorner and contention shall go out. 02:55:36.810 --> 02:55:39.990 So, if you look at the way they did it in the Bible, you will see in the book of 1 02:55:39.990 --> 02:55:43.710 Kings, Elijah made fun of the prophets of Baal. 02:55:44.690 --> 02:55:46.310 They were crying, Oh, Baal, hear us. 02:55:46.530 --> 02:55:47.870 Come on, Baal, light my fire. 02:55:48.510 --> 02:55:50.130 And Elijah mocked them. 02:55:50.790 --> 02:55:51.690 He said, Cry aloud. 02:55:51.810 --> 02:55:52.330 He is a god. 02:55:52.410 --> 02:55:54.170 He is talking or he is pursuing or he is on a journey. 02:55:54.290 --> 02:55:54.790 He is sleeping. 02:55:54.930 --> 02:55:55.670 Maybe he must be awakened. 02:55:56.190 --> 02:55:57.770 So, he mocked the false prophets. 02:55:58.530 --> 02:56:02.550 Jesus called the scribes and Pharisees hypocrites, whited sepulchers, 02:56:02.650 --> 02:56:04.050 full of dead men's bones. 02:56:04.930 --> 02:56:07.950 He said, Oh, generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath 02:56:07.950 --> 02:56:08.410 to come? 02:56:09.110 --> 02:56:11.350 How can ye being evil speak good things? 02:56:11.370 --> 02:56:12.270 He called them evil. 02:56:12.370 --> 02:56:15.430 He called them snakes and vipers and whited sepulchers. 02:56:17.250 --> 02:56:18.570 All you have to do is read through Scripture. 02:56:18.930 --> 02:56:20.330 Jesus said, Herod was a fox. 02:56:20.430 --> 02:56:22.970 He said, Go tell that fox that I am going to cast out devils. 02:56:23.070 --> 02:56:24.370 If he doesn't like it, that is basically tough. 02:56:25.130 --> 02:56:27.790 He said, Ye stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart. 02:56:28.470 --> 02:56:32.390 Oh, full of all subtlety and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all 02:56:32.390 --> 02:56:32.910 righteousness. 02:56:33.050 --> 02:56:36.530 Wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of God, of the Lord? 02:56:37.030 --> 02:56:39.050 Boy, he perverts things. 02:56:39.850 --> 02:56:43.410 All throughout Scripture, the Bible calls people fools, brutish, simple, 02:56:43.590 --> 02:56:45.410 perverse, scorners, wicked. 02:56:46.610 --> 02:56:48.050 I am just trying to be like my Heavenly Father. 02:56:48.470 --> 02:56:51.210 So, that is why I use sarcasm with the scoffers. 02:56:51.910 --> 02:56:54.510 People often ask me the question, Brother Hovind, why don't you answer all 02:56:54.510 --> 02:56:56.510 the scoffers on the anti-Hovind websites? 02:56:56.690 --> 02:56:59.310 There are now over 500 anti-Hovind websites. 02:56:59.490 --> 02:57:00.730 People that absolutely hate me. 02:57:01.910 --> 02:57:04.930 One guy said, Dr. Hovind, do you realize you are the most hated man in our chat 02:57:04.930 --> 02:57:05.150 room? 02:57:05.530 --> 02:57:07.710 I can't believe how many people out there talk about you. 02:57:08.010 --> 02:57:09.130 Apparently you have struck a nerve. 02:57:09.230 --> 02:57:10.050 Keep up the great work. 02:57:10.310 --> 02:57:11.330 That was an email I got. 02:57:12.070 --> 02:57:14.610 Well, here are some things to consider about my answer to this one. 02:57:14.810 --> 02:57:18.010 Number one, I will gladly answer any questions about my seminar or anything I 02:57:18.010 --> 02:57:18.270 believe. 02:57:18.610 --> 02:57:22.090 I do this, I have live question and answer sessions just every single week when I go 02:57:22.090 --> 02:57:22.450 out and speak. 02:57:23.330 --> 02:57:24.870 I have these question and answer sessions everywhere. 02:57:25.130 --> 02:57:26.770 I have been in 49 states and 30 countries. 02:57:26.930 --> 02:57:29.270 I take all the questions that time permits off until midnight. 02:57:29.490 --> 02:57:30.410 We will stay and answer questions. 02:57:31.370 --> 02:57:35.610 Number three, I have a long-standing offer to debate anybody on creation and 02:57:35.610 --> 02:57:35.930 evolution. 02:57:36.130 --> 02:57:37.670 I debate any number of evolutionists. 02:57:37.730 --> 02:57:39.810 If there are ten of them and one of me, that is perfectly fine. 02:57:39.870 --> 02:57:42.930 Ten against one is not a problem if I get half the time. 02:57:44.090 --> 02:57:45.970 And we talk about one topic at a time. 02:57:46.290 --> 02:57:49.990 I will pay a professor, not some high school kid, but I will pay a college 02:57:49.990 --> 02:57:53.270 professor a hundred bucks if he will debate me and a quarter million if they 02:57:53.270 --> 02:57:53.970 can prove evolution. 02:57:54.690 --> 02:57:57.770 I have had over 3,000 people refuse to debate so far. 02:57:58.290 --> 02:58:01.410 I just started recently putting a list on our website of some of the professors who 02:58:01.410 --> 02:58:02.450 refused to debate me. 02:58:03.070 --> 02:58:05.170 I speak about 800 times a year now. 02:58:05.570 --> 02:58:07.990 I answer many thousands of calls, letters and emails. 02:58:08.610 --> 02:58:12.550 There are many millions who want to hear, so why waste time on those who don't want 02:58:12.550 --> 02:58:12.770 to hear? 02:58:13.710 --> 02:58:16.770 If I wasted hours answering all their silly questions, which most are already 02:58:16.770 --> 02:58:20.090 answered in my seminar, they would only ask more questions and try to tie up my 02:58:20.090 --> 02:58:20.410 time. 02:58:20.510 --> 02:58:22.270 They are trying to waste my time is what they are trying to do. 02:58:23.070 --> 02:58:26.450 The Bible says, give not that which is holy unto dogs neither cast ye your pearls 02:58:26.450 --> 02:58:27.330 before swine. 02:58:27.770 --> 02:58:30.270 So I simply don't have time to answer the skeptics on the website. 02:58:31.130 --> 02:58:35.110 If I was going to plant a garden to feed my family and half my yard was good soil 02:58:35.110 --> 02:58:38.890 and half was hard rock, I would plant the good soil first. 02:58:39.490 --> 02:58:40.750 Make sure I get a crop started. 02:58:41.230 --> 02:58:43.110 If I got time, I will go work on the rock. 02:58:43.150 --> 02:58:44.410 If I don't have time, oh well. 02:58:44.410 --> 02:58:46.710 I guess I feel that way. 02:58:46.790 --> 02:58:52.150 I've only got 24 hours in a day and I'm going to invest my time and energy where 02:58:52.150 --> 02:58:53.350 it might produce some fruit. 02:58:54.570 --> 02:59:00.050 You could spend hours and hours talking to an atheist on the internet and waste a lot 02:59:00.050 --> 02:59:00.390 of time. 02:59:01.070 --> 02:59:03.970 If he doesn't want to hear, you are wasting your time. 02:59:04.530 --> 02:59:07.530 Some are very sincere, open and they really are seeking. 02:59:07.730 --> 02:59:09.270 Well, go for them. 02:59:09.990 --> 02:59:13.790 But you've got to decide what you want to put your time into, where is going to bear 02:59:13.790 --> 02:59:14.570 the most fruit. 02:59:15.210 --> 02:59:16.830 I talk to those who want to hear. 02:59:17.190 --> 02:59:20.590 Skeptics are always welcome to call me, but if they email me and try to get me 02:59:20.590 --> 02:59:22.650 into an email debate, I simply won't do it. 02:59:22.710 --> 02:59:24.050 I'm sorry, I don't have time. 02:59:24.730 --> 02:59:26.270 That's my reason for not doing that. 02:59:27.070 --> 02:59:28.510 So, I hope this has been helpful. 02:59:28.670 --> 02:59:33.270 We have all sorts of questions answered, even more, on our Creation Science 104 02:59:33.270 --> 02:59:35.930 Science College class, if you want to get that one. 02:59:36.210 --> 02:59:39.770 We offer many materials through our ministry, lots of debates on videotape, 02:59:40.090 --> 02:59:41.790 lots of other materials on homeschooling. 02:59:41.790 --> 02:59:43.450 We want to be a blessing.