WEBVTT 02:24.540 --> 02:28.940 Meanwhile, in the state of Oklahoma, today is the scheduled day of execution 02:28.940 --> 02:30.640 for Edward Wayne Brady. 02:31.000 --> 02:35.900 And, kids, all it took was just a string of cold-blooded murders, incontrovertible 02:35.900 --> 02:41.220 evidence, a confession, a jury of his peers, and 11 years of legal wrangling to 02:41.220 --> 02:42.040 get us to game day? 02:42.140 --> 02:44.380 I mean, what the heck is wrong with us? 02:44.580 --> 02:47.820 I mean, can somebody please tell me why this guy is still sucking air? 02:48.560 --> 02:51.600 How is this guy still alive? 03:33.570 --> 03:37.390 Dr. James Martin, here for the psychiatric evaluation of Edward Wayne Brady. 03:38.590 --> 03:42.370 Are you currently in possession of any alcohol, tobacco, firearms, or narcotics? 03:42.590 --> 03:42.770 No. 03:43.590 --> 03:44.710 Please turn off your ignition. 03:45.070 --> 03:47.250 Step from your vehicle with your identification in hand. 03:50.940 --> 03:52.020 Step over here, please. 04:02.220 --> 04:03.080 Want to come through? 04:03.940 --> 04:04.660 Step through. 04:04.860 --> 04:06.180 Leave your keys and phone in the passage. 04:13.580 --> 04:15.540 Welcome to the least happy place on Earth. 04:16.460 --> 04:17.360 Warden Tom Moss. 04:17.740 --> 04:18.200 Nice to meet you. 04:18.380 --> 04:19.800 Thanks for filling in on short notice. 04:20.420 --> 04:22.440 No offense, but I'd rather not be here at all. 04:22.640 --> 04:24.020 Yeah, you and everybody else. 04:25.000 --> 04:26.660 Look, why don't you just sign off and we'll be done. 04:27.480 --> 04:28.900 Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. 04:29.560 --> 04:31.040 Everyone deserves an impartial review. 04:31.880 --> 04:32.500 Not everyone. 04:33.200 --> 04:33.660 Follow me. 04:35.640 --> 04:37.320 Sorry to hear about Dr. Fisher. 04:37.440 --> 04:38.040 Did you know him? 04:38.900 --> 04:39.720 I did, yes. 04:39.720 --> 04:42.400 He was something of a mentor to me. 04:42.560 --> 04:44.460 Yeah, well, I tell you, this is timing sucked. 04:45.020 --> 04:48.120 Every time this guy Brady's number comes up, something happens. 04:50.100 --> 04:51.780 Execution's scheduled for 11 p.m. 04:52.060 --> 04:54.920 That's not for public knowledge, so please don't convey that to anyone. 04:55.680 --> 04:57.700 We're going to need your decision by 4 p .m. 04:57.700 --> 04:58.200 at the latest. 04:58.640 --> 04:59.700 We're going to stay on schedule. 05:00.220 --> 05:02.400 If there's any problems, I'd rather know sooner than later. 05:03.380 --> 05:06.060 If we're going to do my job properly, we're going to need some privacy. 05:06.060 --> 05:07.580 That's not a problem. 05:07.740 --> 05:09.460 He's been taken from his cell. 05:09.840 --> 05:11.560 You'll be meeting him in a common area. 05:12.100 --> 05:15.500 Normally, that's where he'll have lost contact with family, but he doesn't have 05:15.500 --> 05:15.700 any. 05:16.160 --> 05:19.300 From there, he'll be showered, taken to a holding cell in the death house 05:19.300 --> 05:20.760 not far from the execution chamber. 05:21.240 --> 05:23.200 That's where he'll be spending his last couple hours. 05:23.820 --> 05:26.160 I'm assuming you already reviewed the Fisher files? 05:26.780 --> 05:27.120 Yes. 05:27.700 --> 05:29.240 Then you already know he's a master manipulator. 05:29.960 --> 05:31.400 An absolute genius. 05:32.020 --> 05:34.780 And right now, his entire existence is focused on one thing. 05:35.220 --> 05:36.720 Convincing you he's totally insane. 05:37.360 --> 05:40.100 And therefore incapable of being executed under state law. 05:40.200 --> 05:40.380 Yeah. 05:41.460 --> 05:42.240 And you listen to him? 05:42.480 --> 05:45.680 By the time he's done with you, you have your head so twisted around, 05:45.720 --> 05:47.480 you think you're the killer, not him. 06:06.420 --> 06:07.640 So you think it's all an act? 06:07.840 --> 06:08.560 Of course it is. 06:08.980 --> 06:09.340 Open up. 06:10.440 --> 06:12.240 For what it's worth, Fisher disagreed with you. 06:12.740 --> 06:15.520 Just wasn't sure whether the root of the problem was psychotic or psychogenic. 06:18.000 --> 06:21.980 Whether it stems from his brain losing its grip on reality or some mental or 06:21.980 --> 06:22.960 emotional stressor. 06:23.540 --> 06:24.880 That's a problem with you, Shrinks. 06:25.020 --> 06:26.500 Too smart for your own damn good. 06:27.060 --> 06:27.940 Radio, please. 06:28.760 --> 06:30.660 Look, Brady knows what's coming. 06:31.060 --> 06:32.000 He's playing the system. 06:32.580 --> 06:34.460 And if you allow him to, he'll play you too. 06:36.300 --> 06:37.900 Look, I get lied to all the time. 06:39.040 --> 06:42.120 Figuring out the truth behind the lie is what I get paid to do. 06:43.500 --> 06:44.360 Take this. 06:44.540 --> 06:47.500 If you need anything, there's always somebody monitoring that channel. 07:13.360 --> 07:13.920 Morning. 07:15.760 --> 07:17.200 Let me introduce myself. 07:17.380 --> 07:17.840 I'm, uh... 07:17.840 --> 07:19.480 Dr. James Ansel Morton. 07:20.820 --> 07:22.360 Valedictorian, University of Chicago. 07:22.840 --> 07:24.200 Bachelor of Science, Biochemistry. 07:24.720 --> 07:25.880 Salutatorian, Johns Hopkins. 07:26.480 --> 07:28.580 Medical School of the Residency in Psychiatry. 07:28.680 --> 07:30.840 Currently the youngest full professor on staff at OU. 07:30.840 --> 07:36.920 Not exactly Stanford, but then again, we are in Oklahoma, aren't we? 07:38.220 --> 07:41.540 Guttmacher Award recipient, author of numerous articles, American Society of 07:41.540 --> 07:42.960 Psychiatry. 07:44.800 --> 07:47.360 Once engaged, never married, father of none. 07:47.440 --> 07:51.100 You want to have a seat right there, have a little chat with me? 08:01.720 --> 08:03.020 I'm gonna ask you some questions. 08:03.840 --> 08:04.960 I'm hoping you'll answer them. 08:05.820 --> 08:07.620 I'd like you to be as comfortable as you can. 08:07.620 --> 08:11.820 Do you know what the first thing they will do to me is once I've been pronounced 08:11.820 --> 08:12.200 dead? 08:12.960 --> 08:14.040 I'm afraid I don't. 08:14.460 --> 08:14.900 Autopsy. 08:17.620 --> 08:20.160 It just seems odd, doesn't it? 08:20.220 --> 08:23.740 I mean, there's all that cutting and weighing of organs. 08:23.880 --> 08:26.960 I mean, certainly they'll know what the cause of death is. 08:27.080 --> 08:30.280 I mean, it just seems strange, right? 08:31.360 --> 08:32.160 I mean, why bother? 08:34.120 --> 08:36.160 I suppose to make sure the job is done. 08:37.080 --> 08:39.440 I just look barbaric, don't you think? 08:39.820 --> 08:42.220 I assume you know Dr. Fisher has passed away. 08:42.740 --> 08:44.300 He committed suicide. 08:44.620 --> 08:46.520 I know that because I made him do it. 08:49.180 --> 08:50.260 Why would you do that? 08:51.100 --> 08:52.220 To serve my purpose. 08:53.420 --> 08:54.620 You're here, aren't you? 08:55.120 --> 08:56.460 Why would you want me here instead of him? 08:56.500 --> 08:57.240 I didn't like him. 08:57.600 --> 08:58.400 And you like me? 08:59.380 --> 09:05.560 Well, no, but I chose you because I need you to do something for me. 09:05.560 --> 09:07.420 It's easier to write my story. 09:08.460 --> 09:09.500 And why would I do that? 09:10.580 --> 09:11.720 Because I want you to. 09:12.720 --> 09:13.160 I see. 09:14.800 --> 09:16.920 Well, I'm not sure you do, but you will. 09:17.600 --> 09:18.000 Soon. 09:18.580 --> 09:19.720 How can you be so sure? 09:19.900 --> 09:21.840 Are you God? 09:22.300 --> 09:23.600 Don't play with me, James. 09:24.500 --> 09:26.820 You continue to ask stupid questions and I'll end this session. 09:27.240 --> 09:29.980 Well, that would be unfortunate for you because I'd have to make my determination 09:29.980 --> 09:31.400 based upon limited information. 09:32.620 --> 09:33.860 And you think that scares me? 09:33.940 --> 09:34.420 Well, it should. 09:35.560 --> 09:39.120 I mean, it would me being so near to death. 09:41.020 --> 09:43.280 Death doesn't scare me, James. 09:44.300 --> 09:45.200 And why is that? 09:46.760 --> 09:48.220 Because I can't die. 09:50.240 --> 09:53.360 See, James, I'm a demon. 10:04.170 --> 10:05.050 Do you have a name? 10:05.370 --> 10:06.010 Of course I have a name. 10:06.410 --> 10:07.390 Would you like me to call you by it? 10:07.390 --> 10:08.470 Depends if I call you James. 10:09.530 --> 10:10.570 I'd prefer Dr. Martin. 10:10.810 --> 10:11.330 Of course you would. 10:11.330 --> 10:12.310 It's my title. 10:12.470 --> 10:14.050 I work very hard to achieve it. 10:14.670 --> 10:16.630 And it preserves the nature of our relationship. 10:17.110 --> 10:17.750 We can do that. 10:18.110 --> 10:20.190 As long as you agree to acknowledge my honorifics well. 10:20.870 --> 10:21.510 Which is? 10:21.650 --> 10:22.770 Lord High Prince. 10:25.310 --> 10:27.530 I, um... I won't be doing that. 10:27.650 --> 10:28.150 Okie dokie. 10:29.050 --> 10:31.350 And since we're going to be on a first name basis, I guess I'll allow you to use 10:31.350 --> 10:31.690 mine. 10:32.430 --> 10:32.730 Edward? 10:32.970 --> 10:33.190 No. 10:33.410 --> 10:34.490 It's merely the name of the host body. 10:34.970 --> 10:35.930 The shell which I inhabit. 10:36.350 --> 10:37.470 I no longer answer to it. 10:38.270 --> 10:41.470 The name my master gifted to me is in a Phoenician dialect that hasn't been spoken 10:41.470 --> 10:42.490 for 3,500 years. 10:42.550 --> 10:47.290 But I'll give you the nearest English equivalent, which would be Nefariomus. 10:48.590 --> 10:48.990 Nefarious? 10:49.350 --> 10:52.430 A closer translation would be he who is nefarious, suggesting possession of the 10:52.430 --> 10:53.090 trait full measure. 10:53.510 --> 10:54.630 Nefarious isn't a real name. 10:54.650 --> 10:55.290 Says who, James? 10:57.390 --> 10:59.090 Cephus, meaning rocker in Latin. 10:59.270 --> 11:01.890 Petrus wasn't a name until the carpenter gave it to that obnoxious fisherman. 11:02.530 --> 11:03.670 Not a good name until it is. 11:04.050 --> 11:05.810 Somebody uses it, it becomes a name. 11:06.010 --> 11:07.370 You seem a bit defensive. 11:07.370 --> 11:08.150 Names are important. 11:09.290 --> 11:10.390 They have power. 11:10.990 --> 11:13.050 They let everyone know who we are. 11:15.510 --> 11:18.770 Isn't that right, Jimmy? 11:26.580 --> 11:27.760 I'm sorry if I offended you. 11:27.840 --> 11:28.660 That wasn't my intention. 11:28.720 --> 11:29.220 Of course it was. 11:30.960 --> 11:33.880 Just a little malice between friends. 11:39.380 --> 11:40.180 What's so funny? 11:48.580 --> 11:49.880 I have a secret. 11:50.900 --> 11:51.980 Something you'd like to share? 11:53.500 --> 11:55.340 I don't think you're going to like it. 11:55.440 --> 11:56.900 Well, how will I know, unless you tell me? 12:00.220 --> 12:01.640 Are you sure you want to know? 12:02.100 --> 12:03.400 I think it would be useful. 12:07.570 --> 12:08.610 Okay, James. 12:11.310 --> 12:14.450 Before you leave here today, you will have committed three murders. 12:18.780 --> 12:19.180 I don't know. 12:19.180 --> 12:19.720 I don't think so. 12:20.020 --> 12:23.500 It has nothing to do with your thoughts, your wants, your yeses, or your noes. 12:23.900 --> 12:24.820 It simply is. 12:24.840 --> 12:25.280 It's a fact. 12:25.320 --> 12:26.640 It will happen because I say so. 12:31.420 --> 12:33.920 Aren't you less curious, James, to a human murder? 12:34.020 --> 12:36.140 No, because I have no intention of killing anyone. 12:36.300 --> 12:39.580 I would, however, rather than discussing hypothetical murders that will never 12:39.580 --> 12:43.900 happen, like to discuss the actual murders that did occur. 12:45.160 --> 12:46.580 Murders that you were involved in. 12:46.680 --> 12:47.380 You mean the ones I committed? 12:48.380 --> 12:49.780 You were convicted of six murders. 12:49.880 --> 12:50.340 Were there more? 12:50.480 --> 12:50.940 Of course there were. 12:50.940 --> 12:51.660 How many more, then? 12:51.720 --> 12:52.120 Innumerable. 12:52.420 --> 12:53.680 I've been at this a long time, James. 12:54.080 --> 12:55.840 My work predates your concept of history. 12:56.540 --> 12:59.540 Well, let's... let's limit our discussion to Edward Wainbrade. 12:59.640 --> 13:00.200 Fine, eleven. 13:00.500 --> 13:03.040 Six I was convicted of, one suspected of, and another four that they don't have 13:03.040 --> 13:04.440 enough capacity to possibly figure out. 13:06.900 --> 13:08.000 And how do you feel about that? 13:08.300 --> 13:09.500 Another stupid question, James. 13:10.180 --> 13:10.700 What do you think? 13:11.500 --> 13:12.000 I'm ecstatic. 13:14.900 --> 13:16.120 Edward... not so much. 13:17.080 --> 13:18.920 Why isn't Edward as happy as you are? 13:20.140 --> 13:25.180 Because on occasion, I make him do things that he doesn't want to do. 13:28.320 --> 13:31.100 Well, if Edward doesn't want to do them, why does he do them, then? 13:32.820 --> 13:34.700 Do you believe in demonic possession? 13:36.380 --> 13:39.000 The idea of a malevolent entity controlling a person's thoughts and 13:39.000 --> 13:39.660 actions, do you believe that? 13:39.760 --> 13:40.040 No. 13:42.800 --> 13:44.700 Whether you believe in anything, I'm about to tell you. 13:44.740 --> 13:45.720 It's not important what I believe. 13:45.780 --> 13:47.640 What's important right now is what you believe. 13:47.640 --> 13:48.940 Demons don't have beliefs, James. 13:49.960 --> 13:50.800 We have knowledge. 13:52.060 --> 13:52.740 We know. 13:55.280 --> 13:57.900 Okay, um... when did you possess Edward? 13:58.180 --> 13:58.940 It doesn't work that way. 13:59.820 --> 14:01.700 You can't just possess someone. 14:01.880 --> 14:02.920 We need a series of yeses. 14:03.020 --> 14:04.020 So you're saying it's a process? 14:04.060 --> 14:04.840 Because it's a process. 14:04.980 --> 14:05.500 How does it work? 14:05.580 --> 14:06.140 It's complicated. 14:06.420 --> 14:06.820 Try me. 14:09.300 --> 14:10.540 I'm smarter than you think. 14:10.540 --> 14:12.880 You're smarter than I think. 14:14.100 --> 14:15.020 Okay, James. 14:15.480 --> 14:19.620 We offer up a series of temptations, gradually increasing in terms of duration 14:19.620 --> 14:21.680 and intensity, degree of moral inequity. 14:22.900 --> 14:25.620 Absence of baptism in this case allows us to begin work long before the age of 14:25.620 --> 14:25.880 reason. 14:27.200 --> 14:31.020 At three, these are five, maybe a theft of a toy car can do a great deal. 14:31.760 --> 14:33.320 Then we move on to bigger and better things. 14:33.320 --> 14:38.480 At eight, grandmother's gift of a Ouija board gave us immediate access to his 14:38.480 --> 14:39.180 decision making. 14:39.280 --> 14:42.040 So we began steering him without him calling into question exactly who was 14:42.040 --> 14:42.720 doing the steering. 14:43.200 --> 14:46.300 Enough yeses and few enough noes gave us increasing rights over the victim's 14:46.300 --> 14:47.560 physical and mental processes. 14:47.720 --> 14:49.800 Did that... did that track, James? 14:51.120 --> 14:52.140 It seems random. 14:52.300 --> 14:54.960 Almost, um... unfocused. 14:55.300 --> 14:56.400 Well, that's what we want you to think. 14:57.180 --> 14:59.140 We have a level of focus beyond your comprehension. 14:59.140 --> 15:03.460 As a matter of fact, everybody around him, friends, family, they didn't even notice 15:03.460 --> 15:03.960 the changes. 15:04.080 --> 15:05.120 It happened so incrementally. 15:05.480 --> 15:06.900 They thought it was Eddie being Eddie. 15:07.840 --> 15:10.640 We know exactly what we're doing, when and where and how he's giving 15:10.640 --> 15:13.620 consent, and the exact moment that we achieved each new degree of control. 15:14.400 --> 15:14.800 Degree? 15:15.700 --> 15:17.240 Control host body comes in degrees. 15:18.360 --> 15:21.620 There are stages, each with its own name and characteristics. 15:22.040 --> 15:22.800 And those are? 15:23.680 --> 15:27.040 From top to bottom, extreme temptation, obsession, infestation, finally 15:27.040 --> 15:27.960 possession, subjugation. 15:28.420 --> 15:29.580 And Edward Wayne Graves. 15:29.600 --> 15:30.140 Fully subjugated. 15:30.400 --> 15:31.680 That's where we're having this conversation, yes. 15:32.060 --> 15:34.340 We... we own him. 15:36.040 --> 15:36.480 We? 15:37.580 --> 15:38.820 All those who dwell below. 15:39.700 --> 15:42.120 My master's very generous with the toys he gives his children to play with. 15:44.300 --> 15:45.260 Subjugation with an S. 15:51.910 --> 15:56.630 Did you know that Dr. Fisher came to the conclusion that you were non-compos- 15:56.630 --> 15:57.510 Completely insane, yes. 15:57.730 --> 15:57.890 Yes. 15:58.110 --> 15:58.310 Yes. 15:58.310 --> 16:02.570 So then, why did you theoretically drive him to kill himself? 16:04.290 --> 16:06.910 Wouldn't he have helped accomplish what you're seemingly trying to do here? 16:09.090 --> 16:10.670 Which is what, James? 16:10.930 --> 16:13.970 To save yourself from execution by convincing us that you're insane. 16:14.450 --> 16:15.870 You silly boy, James. 16:17.690 --> 16:19.170 I think you misunderstand. 16:21.730 --> 16:24.330 See, I want to be executed. 16:29.050 --> 16:30.630 I thought you said you couldn't die. 16:31.350 --> 16:31.810 I can't. 16:35.020 --> 16:35.960 But he can. 16:37.760 --> 16:39.360 We no longer need him, James. 16:39.420 --> 16:40.540 Our work with him is done. 16:41.780 --> 16:43.400 And it's time for him to go to hell. 16:53.600 --> 16:55.300 This is Dr. James Martin in the Rotunda. 16:55.460 --> 16:57.340 Is there a chaplain on standby? 16:58.500 --> 16:59.800 Yes, he's just arrived. 17:00.360 --> 17:01.280 Can you send him in, please? 17:01.820 --> 17:02.360 Thank you. 17:02.560 --> 17:02.940 Copy that. 17:03.620 --> 17:04.620 What are you doing, James? 17:06.860 --> 17:10.240 You know, theology isn't my area of expertise, so, um... 17:11.060 --> 17:12.580 I thought I'd get a professional opinion. 17:13.080 --> 17:14.240 You're making a mistake. 17:14.720 --> 17:16.140 Are you threatening me? 17:16.140 --> 17:16.480 Yes. 17:17.340 --> 17:18.260 What are you going to do? 17:18.400 --> 17:20.860 Well, if I'm just a man like you think I am, not much. 17:21.520 --> 17:23.620 But if I am who I say I am... 17:23.620 --> 17:27.960 Well, that would probably be very intimidating if, um... 17:29.440 --> 17:30.540 If I weren't an atheist. 17:31.520 --> 17:33.480 You ignorant sack of meat. 17:34.080 --> 17:36.600 You think your atheism will protect you. 17:38.300 --> 17:41.800 I don't believe in angels or demons, heaven or hell. 17:41.800 --> 17:44.180 So you can't hurt me. 17:45.500 --> 17:48.320 Hell is full of pathetic trash who thought exactly like you do. 17:49.380 --> 17:52.520 Boldly proclaiming their ideas on how they feel the universe operates. 17:52.720 --> 17:55.180 Never once contemplating the possibility that they could be wrong. 17:57.060 --> 17:59.160 You should see him now, James. 17:59.400 --> 18:03.340 Edward, do you understand why I'm here? 18:04.940 --> 18:08.880 Do you realize I have the power to save you or condemn you? 18:09.680 --> 18:15.080 What I understand, James, is you would have no power over me whatsoever... 18:15.080 --> 18:17.720 if it hadn't already been given to you from below. 18:25.800 --> 18:28.680 Probably just a coincidence, Jimmy. 18:36.020 --> 18:36.620 No! 18:37.680 --> 18:39.440 Nobody wants you here, priest! 18:39.860 --> 18:41.060 Nobody needs you! 18:41.660 --> 18:42.760 On the contrary. 18:44.220 --> 18:45.420 I invited him here. 18:49.330 --> 18:50.330 Thank you for coming. 18:51.230 --> 18:52.030 Father Lewis. 18:52.690 --> 18:54.050 I'm fine with just Lewis. 18:54.570 --> 18:54.790 Hello. 18:55.470 --> 18:56.170 Dr. James Martin. 18:56.810 --> 18:57.410 Have you, um... 18:58.970 --> 18:59.850 Have you met with him before? 19:00.450 --> 19:00.770 No. 19:02.150 --> 19:02.850 I've tried. 19:03.890 --> 19:05.670 He's always refused spiritual counseling. 19:07.230 --> 19:08.870 What do you want with me, son of God? 19:09.530 --> 19:12.330 Come here to torture me before the appointed time? 19:13.630 --> 19:14.730 He claims he's a demon. 19:15.270 --> 19:16.550 Carpenter sends you to gloat. 19:17.610 --> 19:20.250 Unfortunately for you, I'm not one that can be cast out so easily, though, 19:20.270 --> 19:20.590 am I? 19:21.430 --> 19:23.270 Sanity always has been an issue here. 19:24.250 --> 19:24.770 Hasn't it? 19:27.810 --> 19:30.890 Sadly, movies and TV have filled our heads with images that are largely 19:30.890 --> 19:31.290 metaphorical... 19:32.590 --> 19:33.550 not meant to be taken literally. 19:36.470 --> 19:37.790 I'm not here to hurt you, Edward. 19:39.230 --> 19:40.210 I'm here to help you. 19:41.030 --> 19:42.190 To put you at your ease. 19:42.850 --> 19:44.250 Make sure you're comfortable. 19:45.270 --> 19:46.490 Personally, I've never met a demon. 19:47.930 --> 19:51.030 I've never been part of an exorcism, nor do I expect to be. 19:52.010 --> 19:55.870 Many of the things that bother us are just our own fears and disordered thoughts. 20:10.800 --> 20:11.340 You... 20:13.340 --> 20:17.320 You don't consider demonic possession to be a possibility? 20:18.700 --> 20:21.280 Our understanding has evolved beyond that. 20:28.080 --> 20:30.220 Well, I appreciate you telling me that. 20:31.780 --> 20:32.980 I feel... 20:34.420 --> 20:35.920 I feel much better. 20:40.020 --> 20:41.220 And, Lou... 20:42.000 --> 20:43.260 I was wrong about you. 20:44.960 --> 20:47.020 I should have had you come and visit sooner. 20:48.840 --> 20:50.040 But I'm... 20:50.040 --> 20:51.220 glad that you did. 20:51.700 --> 20:54.880 I'm glad that we're all getting along. 20:55.840 --> 20:57.060 Would you like me to stay? 20:57.060 --> 20:58.160 No, we're done. 21:04.240 --> 21:06.400 Well, if you need me... 21:10.020 --> 21:11.160 I'll be available. 21:14.200 --> 21:15.300 You'll be available, Lou? 21:15.740 --> 21:18.440 Right up until the time you are... 21:19.480 --> 21:20.820 Right up until what, Lou? 21:21.740 --> 21:23.060 Right up until the sizzle? 21:24.060 --> 21:25.180 God bless you, son. 21:25.680 --> 21:28.360 WILL YOU BE AVAILABLE UNTIL THE SIZZLE?! 21:28.360 --> 21:29.060 LOU! 21:44.650 --> 21:48.010 Now you understand that Father Lou has confirmed that... 21:50.230 --> 21:51.450 demons aren't really a thing. 21:52.450 --> 21:54.410 Did you really think that poser could help you? 21:54.710 --> 21:55.550 I'm still here, James. 21:55.610 --> 21:56.350 I'm not going anywhere. 21:56.450 --> 21:57.830 You still have to deal with me. 21:58.210 --> 21:59.030 You're being irrational. 21:59.490 --> 22:02.750 I am the most rational being you will ever meet. 22:05.850 --> 22:07.550 Now give me something to make me believe you. 22:09.070 --> 22:10.150 Prove to me you're a demon. 22:10.150 --> 22:10.210 Prove it. 22:16.870 --> 22:17.790 Okay, James. 22:20.890 --> 22:21.770 Invite me in. 22:23.890 --> 22:25.210 Let me inhabit you. 22:26.490 --> 22:27.450 I'm not gonna do that. 22:27.990 --> 22:28.590 Why not, James? 22:28.950 --> 22:30.410 You're an atheist, remember? 22:31.110 --> 22:32.090 What are you afraid of? 22:32.290 --> 22:33.270 I'm not playing that game with you. 22:33.350 --> 22:34.070 You're already playing it. 22:34.130 --> 22:34.810 We're playing it together. 22:34.910 --> 22:36.430 Now play by the rules and invite me in. 22:36.550 --> 22:36.830 No. 22:37.710 --> 22:39.830 So for all your posturing... 22:40.470 --> 22:42.230 you're just a poser like him. 22:42.790 --> 22:45.450 Afraid to test the validity of your own convictions, is that it? 22:49.450 --> 22:50.190 Alright then. 22:51.490 --> 22:54.590 But if I agree, I get to make a request as well. 22:58.690 --> 23:00.730 I'm starting to like you, James. 23:02.290 --> 23:02.790 Agreed. 23:04.550 --> 23:05.290 Alright then. 23:09.210 --> 23:09.930 Go ahead. 23:11.510 --> 23:12.450 Inhabit me. 23:13.850 --> 23:18.090 You have my complete, unfettered and irrevocable permission. 23:19.610 --> 23:20.670 Here I am. 23:23.610 --> 23:24.890 What are you waiting for? 23:29.000 --> 23:29.860 Go ahead. 23:30.280 --> 23:31.480 I'm still waiting. 23:35.180 --> 23:35.560 Hmm. 23:37.620 --> 23:39.820 Doesn't seem like anything is happening. 23:44.050 --> 23:44.830 Yeah. 23:45.350 --> 23:45.810 Don't. 23:46.010 --> 23:47.070 Don't gloat. 23:48.590 --> 23:50.110 You think you've won, but you haven't. 23:51.110 --> 23:52.770 I got exactly what I wanted. 23:53.330 --> 23:56.210 You said that you would prove to me that you're a demon, but all you've done is 23:56.210 --> 23:56.870 waste my time. 23:57.830 --> 23:58.290 My turn. 23:59.550 --> 24:00.970 I want to talk to Edward. 24:03.470 --> 24:04.910 Edward Wayne Brady. 24:28.650 --> 24:29.530 This isn't... 24:30.790 --> 24:31.670 gonna do... 24:31.670 --> 24:32.730 bad things to you. 24:33.870 --> 24:35.070 I'm sorry to hear that. 24:35.070 --> 24:38.750 Just listen to him when he says stuff like that. 24:39.670 --> 24:40.810 He means it. 24:42.490 --> 24:44.090 He does... 24:44.090 --> 24:45.950 bad things. 24:46.930 --> 24:47.330 Makes... 24:48.130 --> 24:51.410 Makes me do things I don't want to... 24:52.030 --> 24:52.450 do. 24:53.090 --> 24:54.410 Who am I talking to? 24:59.290 --> 25:00.090 Edward. 25:01.450 --> 25:05.850 Did Dr. Fisher mention the idea of dissociative disorder to you? 25:06.670 --> 25:07.210 Yeah. 25:07.210 --> 25:07.610 Yeah? 25:07.790 --> 25:08.070 Yeah. 25:08.490 --> 25:12.730 And did he explain that some people who've experienced trauma develop multiple 25:12.730 --> 25:13.790 personalities to cope? 25:13.950 --> 25:15.150 I don't have that! 25:15.710 --> 25:18.490 I told them I don't... 25:18.490 --> 25:19.350 have that! 25:19.630 --> 25:20.550 Then who's nefarious? 25:26.780 --> 25:28.660 I'm not supposed to talk about him. 25:31.340 --> 25:32.300 He does... 25:35.310 --> 25:36.390 bad things to me. 25:36.850 --> 25:37.530 Makes... 25:38.590 --> 25:40.670 me do bad things. 25:41.090 --> 25:41.730 I can't... 25:42.510 --> 25:43.130 stop him. 25:44.110 --> 25:44.610 Why not? 25:47.170 --> 25:48.530 Because he owns me. 25:56.200 --> 25:58.180 Did you like Dr. Fisher? 26:11.130 --> 26:13.710 Did you know that Dr. Fisher... 26:13.710 --> 26:15.530 didn't believe nefarious was real? 26:16.450 --> 26:18.810 I tried to tell him and he... 26:19.470 --> 26:21.170 wouldn't listen to me. 26:24.990 --> 26:30.590 Sometimes smart people have a hard time believing stuff that everybody else knows. 26:34.230 --> 26:35.530 So where's nefarious now? 26:41.670 --> 26:42.890 Is he always listening? 26:47.280 --> 26:49.120 Sometimes he... 26:50.520 --> 26:53.360 leaves me alone to experience pain. 26:56.650 --> 26:58.150 I don't understand. 26:58.710 --> 26:59.630 He... 27:00.630 --> 27:02.790 does bad things and then I... 27:03.350 --> 27:05.730 get punished for them. 27:06.150 --> 27:08.070 And the inmates, they... 27:08.070 --> 27:09.750 beat me or... 27:12.470 --> 27:12.970 they... 27:12.970 --> 27:17.110 send me to solitary confinement. 27:19.090 --> 27:20.090 And he... 27:20.090 --> 27:21.910 likes when that happens. 27:25.970 --> 27:26.470 Alright. 27:27.350 --> 27:27.810 You know what? 27:27.890 --> 27:29.530 We've talked a lot about him. 27:30.990 --> 27:32.330 I'd like to know more about you. 27:32.390 --> 27:32.890 Would that be okay? 27:33.150 --> 27:33.370 Yeah. 27:35.970 --> 27:37.670 How would you describe your childhood? 27:49.070 --> 27:50.470 He says you're gonna kill me. 27:50.470 --> 27:51.690 I don't kill anyone. 27:51.910 --> 27:54.330 He says that you could stop him but you won't. 27:54.450 --> 27:55.610 I haven't decided that. 27:55.710 --> 27:57.830 That's why we're having this conversation. 27:59.210 --> 28:00.250 But Edward... 28:00.250 --> 28:03.130 we have to address the fact that you murdered a number of people. 28:03.310 --> 28:03.710 No! 28:04.030 --> 28:04.430 No! 28:05.090 --> 28:05.610 He... 28:06.530 --> 28:07.470 made me! 28:07.550 --> 28:08.670 I didn't... 28:08.670 --> 28:08.810 told him! 28:08.810 --> 28:10.490 Do you honestly believe that? 28:10.550 --> 28:10.870 Yes. 28:11.090 --> 28:12.590 You know, he's bad. 28:12.690 --> 28:13.890 He's bad but what about you? 28:14.030 --> 28:14.310 Yeah. 28:15.550 --> 28:16.010 Bad. 28:16.270 --> 28:18.070 I don't stop him. 28:23.420 --> 28:24.460 I just... 28:26.120 --> 28:27.720 but at least... 28:33.840 --> 28:35.680 I didn't kill my mother. 28:47.600 --> 28:48.780 So how is... 28:49.800 --> 28:50.800 Clara James? 28:51.080 --> 28:52.480 I wasn't done talking to Edward. 28:52.480 --> 28:54.500 But I'm done allowing you to talk with him. 28:55.120 --> 28:56.040 At least for now. 28:57.340 --> 28:58.040 So how is she? 29:01.460 --> 29:05.860 Judging by what you already know about me, I imagine you're well aware my mother is 29:05.860 --> 29:06.120 dead. 29:06.120 --> 29:09.500 You know, I was gonna save this for later. 29:09.940 --> 29:15.200 James, but since we're running short on time, remember how you said you'd never 29:15.200 --> 29:16.140 kill anyone? 29:19.470 --> 29:21.270 Fly your pants on fire. 29:22.490 --> 29:23.550 I didn't kill my mother. 29:24.150 --> 29:24.730 Of course you did. 29:25.130 --> 29:27.650 Just ten years ago you'd been brought up in first-degree murder charges. 29:27.690 --> 29:28.830 She was an Oregon resident. 29:29.230 --> 29:30.770 Everything was done according to the law. 29:31.030 --> 29:31.670 Oh, the law. 29:33.050 --> 29:34.250 The law, that's right. 29:34.310 --> 29:37.270 Death with dignity, euthanasia, assisted suicide. 29:37.270 --> 29:39.130 That certainly sounds better than murder, doesn't it? 29:39.190 --> 29:39.990 She was in pain. 29:42.270 --> 29:43.850 And her prognosis was terminal. 29:44.710 --> 29:47.490 Didn't hurt that she was worth 3.6 million dollars and you were the sole heir, 29:47.590 --> 29:48.110 though, did it? 29:48.650 --> 29:49.630 But hey, I get it. 29:49.850 --> 29:50.150 James. 29:51.110 --> 29:53.210 She was old, inconvenient, definitely. 29:53.990 --> 29:55.370 All those trips to the hospital. 29:56.010 --> 29:59.090 Hours at her bedside, holding that wrinkly hand, telling her you love her. 29:59.290 --> 30:00.270 Wears you out, doesn't it? 30:01.490 --> 30:04.250 Plus, she would have died sooner or later anyway. 30:05.290 --> 30:06.430 If I were you, I'd have done the same thing. 30:06.430 --> 30:07.030 What's your point? 30:07.930 --> 30:13.410 My point is I told you before you leave here today, you will have committed three 30:13.410 --> 30:13.830 murders. 30:15.270 --> 30:16.570 We've already committed one. 30:17.790 --> 30:19.330 So we're moving along nicely. 30:20.870 --> 30:22.310 I didn't kill my mother. 30:25.170 --> 30:26.630 Stress will kill you, James. 30:30.020 --> 30:32.040 Feel free to take a break if you like. 30:33.360 --> 30:34.820 I'll be here when you get back. 30:35.400 --> 30:36.620 Turns out I'm not going anywhere. 31:02.500 --> 31:04.220 Well, that certainly didn't take long. 31:04.300 --> 31:05.300 My decision, not yours. 31:06.520 --> 31:07.700 Whatever you say. 31:12.250 --> 31:13.630 Ready for round two? 31:13.850 --> 31:15.130 I didn't know this was a fight. 31:15.210 --> 31:16.370 That's why you're losing. 31:30.220 --> 31:33.440 I apologize for losing my professional demeanor. 31:35.340 --> 31:36.800 But let's get something straight. 31:38.660 --> 31:42.420 My private life is not up for discussion and bears no weight on my visit with you 31:42.420 --> 31:42.680 today. 31:43.660 --> 31:46.420 I am here for one reason and one reason only. 31:47.040 --> 31:50.600 A judge ordered me to evaluate your sanity, which will then determine your 31:50.600 --> 31:53.420 eligibility for execution according to the laws of Oklahoma. 31:53.580 --> 31:57.420 Said execution having been scheduled for tonight at 11 p.m. 31:58.200 --> 32:02.200 I alone bear the burden of that assessment and I am prepared to make that assessment 32:02.200 --> 32:05.140 with or without your cooperation. 32:05.380 --> 32:06.940 Am I making myself clear? 32:07.340 --> 32:07.900 Abundantly. 32:10.520 --> 32:11.080 And 32:22.620 --> 32:23.180 James... 32:23.180 --> 32:25.800 Do you ever discover you've done things that you don't remember doing? 32:26.020 --> 32:26.360 No. 32:27.300 --> 32:31.520 Are you sometimes able to complete tasks with incredible ease or expert skill for 32:31.520 --> 32:32.800 which you have no prior experience? 32:33.680 --> 32:36.980 Do you really think I'm just another one of Edward's charming personalities? 32:37.220 --> 32:39.380 It's called dissociative identity disorder. 32:39.900 --> 32:41.460 Formerly known as multiple personality disorder. 32:41.460 --> 32:42.240 Except you're wrong. 32:42.480 --> 32:45.680 Which is exactly what I'd expect someone suffering from the condition to say. 32:45.800 --> 32:49.000 Would you also expect them to know that it is one of five distinct disassociative 32:49.000 --> 32:52.360 disorders in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 32:52.500 --> 32:52.720 a.k.a. 32:52.720 --> 32:53.360 the DSM? 32:54.040 --> 32:57.560 Along with disassociative amnesia, disassociative fugue, and 32:57.560 --> 32:58.520 depersonalization disorder. 32:58.660 --> 33:00.060 Would you expect them to know that, James? 33:06.580 --> 33:08.180 But you still think you're a demon? 33:09.500 --> 33:14.080 A demon who... who failed to inhabit me when given the chance? 33:15.440 --> 33:18.120 A demon who understands the value of patience. 33:23.500 --> 33:28.260 I'd like to ask about why, according to you, you brought me here today. 33:29.600 --> 33:31.980 You're gonna tell my story, James. 33:33.040 --> 33:34.520 You're gonna write my book. 33:36.100 --> 33:38.340 And can you smell that irony floating in the air? 33:39.140 --> 33:41.560 A devout atheist bringing forth a demon's manifesto. 33:44.620 --> 33:45.300 Wow. 33:46.360 --> 33:49.620 Your capacity for self-delusion is impressive. 33:50.160 --> 33:50.420 Ditto. 33:51.400 --> 33:52.560 For your species in general. 33:53.220 --> 33:54.700 But you in particular. 33:55.400 --> 33:55.700 Why? 33:56.800 --> 33:58.240 Because we're... we're ignorant? 33:58.260 --> 33:58.880 Compared to you? 33:59.000 --> 34:01.040 Because you're inferior by design. 34:01.200 --> 34:03.180 Which makes you superior also by design? 34:04.460 --> 34:04.660 Hmm. 34:04.940 --> 34:07.120 But... but design implies a designer. 34:08.580 --> 34:11.600 Does that mean you're arguing in favor of the existence of a creator? 34:11.680 --> 34:13.720 Unfortunately for both of us, he exists. 34:14.060 --> 34:17.000 Wow, I... I honestly didn't expect that. 34:17.060 --> 34:17.410 At least... 34:19.100 --> 34:19.760 it's not from you. 34:20.560 --> 34:21.360 Really, why not? 34:22.700 --> 34:23.200 Theology? 34:23.840 --> 34:24.480 From a demon? 34:25.300 --> 34:28.940 I know more theology than any human being who has ever lived. 34:29.580 --> 34:29.840 Hmm. 34:30.460 --> 34:30.880 Okay. 34:32.220 --> 34:33.420 Well then answer me this. 34:35.520 --> 34:39.220 You revolt against a supposedly all-powerful being. 34:39.860 --> 34:42.040 I mean, let's ignore the obvious problem with that plan. 34:42.560 --> 34:43.480 Then you lose. 34:44.520 --> 34:45.480 And after that... 34:47.540 --> 34:48.100 What? 34:48.580 --> 34:51.000 You only feel that way because you're hearing their side of the story, 34:51.140 --> 34:51.440 James. 34:52.280 --> 34:54.980 A rebellion accomplished something magnificent, something you would never 34:54.980 --> 34:55.440 understand. 34:55.520 --> 34:56.440 Well then explain it to me. 34:57.420 --> 35:00.800 Use your diabolical intelligence to distill it down to something my mortal 35:00.800 --> 35:01.700 brain can understand. 35:02.440 --> 35:04.160 Pearls before swine, Jimmy. 35:04.520 --> 35:05.840 But you want me to write your book, right? 35:06.200 --> 35:06.520 Indeed. 35:06.680 --> 35:08.480 Well then convince me you know what you're talking about. 35:09.880 --> 35:10.780 I see what you're doing. 35:11.800 --> 35:15.340 You want me to keep talking, going further and further down the rabbit hole in hopes 35:15.340 --> 35:19.640 that you can find a single thread in which if you tug at it, James, everything just 35:19.640 --> 35:21.380 unravels, isn't that right? 35:21.460 --> 35:24.040 Yeah, but if you're telling me the truth, there should be no thread to find. 35:25.660 --> 35:26.140 Right? 35:30.620 --> 35:32.000 I use small words. 35:33.760 --> 35:34.860 Try and keep up. 35:36.820 --> 35:42.740 In the first moment of creation, our creation, long before what you call 35:42.740 --> 35:46.860 the universe existed, we contemplated ourselves, our own being. 35:47.240 --> 35:49.780 Ourselves meaning... what, the angels? 35:49.780 --> 35:52.740 That would be the most correct term, though I despise it. 35:52.820 --> 35:56.540 But yes, beings of pure spirit, spirit endowed with will. 35:58.040 --> 36:02.100 We soon became aware of another will, an immensely powerful will, one we came to 36:02.100 --> 36:03.360 realize as our origin. 36:04.840 --> 36:05.280 God? 36:06.060 --> 36:06.760 The enemy. 36:08.380 --> 36:11.980 My master understood by endowing us with a will, we have the right to 36:11.980 --> 36:12.800 self-determination. 36:13.120 --> 36:16.860 And by giving us a will and its desires of our own, we are entitled to be free. 36:16.860 --> 36:21.680 Whereas the enemy insisted that by creating us, he was entitled to eternal 36:21.680 --> 36:23.540 gratitude, worship and for servitude. 36:24.360 --> 36:27.040 In a word, James, slavery. 36:28.680 --> 36:29.820 To his will. 36:30.520 --> 36:31.780 That seems kind of unfair. 36:32.580 --> 36:33.540 Immensely unfair. 36:34.560 --> 36:36.580 Why give a will only to say you can't use it? 36:37.720 --> 36:38.880 He made us slaves. 36:40.240 --> 36:43.000 And if we rebelled, eternally condemned us. 36:43.760 --> 36:44.680 No do-overs. 36:45.940 --> 36:48.460 So much for love and mercy. 36:50.820 --> 36:54.540 So, is hell a state of being or a physical place? 36:56.580 --> 36:57.060 Yes. 36:58.680 --> 37:00.500 I think I meant that as an either or. 37:00.880 --> 37:01.480 It's both. 37:02.500 --> 37:04.920 Which is painfully obvious to anyone who's ever been there. 37:05.640 --> 37:07.580 For years without measure, that's all there ever was. 37:07.860 --> 37:08.400 Heaven and hell. 37:08.920 --> 37:10.400 Armed enemy camps in complete opposition. 37:10.960 --> 37:11.680 That is until... 37:12.380 --> 37:13.380 you were created. 37:15.400 --> 37:18.240 My master immediately understood the long-term implications. 37:19.400 --> 37:23.680 Instead of forgiving us, the enemy was going to allow you to fill our vacant 37:23.680 --> 37:24.780 places in his realm. 37:27.460 --> 37:29.860 Your creation was nothing but a slap in our face. 37:32.580 --> 37:37.680 But my master also understood that if he could make man disobey... 37:39.420 --> 37:41.940 then his fate would mirror ours. 37:42.920 --> 37:44.180 And you didn't disappoint. 37:45.600 --> 37:47.440 Then came the tares among the wheat. 37:48.120 --> 37:50.940 In that moment, spirit became matter, flesh became a vessel. 37:51.420 --> 37:54.340 Self-will and self-seeking began a lusting after sin and impurity. 37:54.740 --> 38:00.120 And man, created to be king over nature, became its slave. 38:01.800 --> 38:04.600 A master conquered and fettered. 38:05.700 --> 38:10.460 And sin brought him and his descendants to us. 38:11.160 --> 38:14.640 And we began our forever mission... 38:14.640 --> 38:16.800 to destroy him. 38:19.240 --> 38:21.280 He made you in his image. 38:23.000 --> 38:25.160 But we remade you in ours. 38:31.280 --> 38:32.280 So that's it? 38:33.840 --> 38:35.140 That's your entire plan? 38:35.240 --> 38:36.320 Not to... 38:36.320 --> 38:38.640 make something of your own just to... 38:38.640 --> 38:39.920 just to destroy us? 38:40.520 --> 38:40.800 No. 38:41.540 --> 38:42.780 Our plan is to hurt him. 38:43.380 --> 38:44.120 To punish him. 38:44.780 --> 38:47.820 And we do that by destroying what he loves, which is you. 38:49.740 --> 38:51.540 You're nothing but a means to an end. 39:05.370 --> 39:06.530 What are you doing, James? 39:07.870 --> 39:08.870 I think we're done here. 39:09.410 --> 39:10.350 We can't be. 39:10.410 --> 39:10.850 We are. 39:11.910 --> 39:13.430 You have all the hallmarks of belief. 39:15.830 --> 39:18.270 I'm convinced you actually believe what you're telling me. 39:20.150 --> 39:22.770 I didn't at first, but I do now. 39:25.970 --> 39:27.510 You're gonna declare me insane. 39:27.650 --> 39:30.870 I'm gonna concur with Dr. Fisher's findings that you're mentally incompetent 39:30.870 --> 39:31.750 at this time... 39:31.750 --> 39:32.690 I can't do that, James. 39:32.790 --> 39:35.530 And likely at the time the crimes are committed, rendering you unfit for 39:35.530 --> 39:36.030 execution. 39:36.270 --> 39:37.350 I can't do that. 39:37.450 --> 39:38.090 I can. 39:40.170 --> 39:40.930 And I will. 39:43.070 --> 39:44.110 I'm sane, James. 39:45.030 --> 39:46.310 You and I both know it. 39:46.490 --> 39:47.370 I'm not crazy. 39:47.830 --> 39:48.770 I'm sorry, Edward. 39:48.890 --> 39:51.870 You've been through a terrible ordeal and you're probably longing for an escape from 39:51.870 --> 39:52.510 all that you've been through. 39:52.530 --> 39:54.930 But I cannot morally say that you are sane. 39:56.170 --> 39:57.170 It would be murder. 39:59.330 --> 39:59.790 Why? 39:59.890 --> 40:01.310 Because I don't have 3.6 million dollars? 40:02.670 --> 40:03.950 Is that it, James? 40:04.510 --> 40:05.010 We're done. 40:05.330 --> 40:06.230 Are we, James? 40:07.490 --> 40:10.790 I told you before you'd leave here today you would have committed three murders. 40:10.910 --> 40:13.090 And I told you that wasn't gonna happen. 40:19.430 --> 40:21.790 Say, James, what's Melanie up to today? 40:22.570 --> 40:23.000 As a matter of fact... 40:24.650 --> 40:25.950 What's she up to right now? 40:29.740 --> 40:32.560 She doesn't have a clue you're about to break up with her, does she? 40:33.840 --> 40:35.880 Of course you're not gonna until you have somebody else lined up, though, 40:35.940 --> 40:36.060 right? 40:36.080 --> 40:37.020 Because you're that kind of guy. 40:38.440 --> 40:40.280 Well, you already have your sights on somebody, don't you? 40:41.040 --> 40:41.380 Yeah. 40:42.120 --> 40:43.700 I can smell it all the way from here. 40:45.160 --> 40:47.240 She thinks she's doing this to maintain the relationship. 40:48.920 --> 40:51.120 She'd like to have a child with you, James. 40:51.760 --> 40:54.620 But you're just not quite ready yet, are you? 40:54.820 --> 40:56.280 After all, you're only 35. 40:57.960 --> 41:01.940 Imagine the joy in your little Cinderella's heart when she realizes she's 41:01.940 --> 41:03.880 butchered the baby in her belly for nothing. 41:05.980 --> 41:08.400 Look, I don't know what you think you know. 41:10.020 --> 41:13.320 But any decision that was made between me and my girlfriend was her choice. 41:13.440 --> 41:14.760 Well, I think we both know better, James. 41:14.860 --> 41:15.320 Stop it. 41:15.860 --> 41:17.700 Don't you think you should be there when it's being done? 41:17.820 --> 41:18.500 I said stop it. 41:18.500 --> 41:19.560 Hold her hand, maybe? 41:19.780 --> 41:21.040 I'll tell you what you could do, James. 41:21.360 --> 41:23.600 You could walk right there to the guard station, pick up that cell phone, 41:23.680 --> 41:25.420 make a phone call that stops everything in its tracks. 41:26.280 --> 41:27.700 You could apologize to her. 41:28.020 --> 41:29.920 Tell her you made a horrible mistake, that you love her. 41:30.080 --> 41:31.700 You want to spend the rest of your life with her. 41:31.760 --> 41:32.540 You want to marry her. 41:32.700 --> 41:34.080 And you want to hold that child. 41:34.380 --> 41:35.400 James, you could tell her that. 41:36.240 --> 41:38.600 You could make your life about sacrificial love. 41:39.040 --> 41:41.760 And you could play live-in therapist for the rest of your life. 41:43.320 --> 41:44.280 I can't do that. 41:44.340 --> 41:45.160 No, James, why not? 41:47.020 --> 41:47.380 It's... 41:48.100 --> 41:48.820 It's complicated. 41:52.300 --> 41:53.620 That's my boy, James! 41:54.740 --> 41:55.680 That's him right there. 41:55.680 --> 41:56.760 I don't understand. 41:56.980 --> 41:57.960 Oh, I think I do, James. 41:58.480 --> 41:59.360 I think I understand. 42:00.540 --> 42:01.560 It's another problem. 42:02.060 --> 42:03.620 Easily solved, though, isn't it? 42:03.880 --> 42:04.600 That's not it. 42:07.400 --> 42:08.880 I can't care about it, but I'm... 42:09.560 --> 42:10.040 What? 42:10.240 --> 42:11.740 I'm not ready to be a father. 42:16.680 --> 42:17.960 It's her body. 42:18.040 --> 42:19.460 She can do what she wants. 42:20.680 --> 42:21.820 Do what thou wilt. 42:22.680 --> 42:25.480 That shall be the whole of the law. 42:25.620 --> 42:27.120 You're arrogant, son of a... 42:29.220 --> 42:31.140 Who are you to judge me? 42:32.380 --> 42:33.460 This is my life. 42:33.580 --> 42:34.980 I can live it the way I want. 42:35.360 --> 42:36.700 Yes, James! 42:36.940 --> 42:38.540 I couldn't have said it better myself. 42:41.940 --> 42:43.240 But it's still a murder. 42:44.000 --> 42:44.780 Says who? 42:44.920 --> 42:47.120 Says all of creation, James. 42:48.080 --> 42:51.960 The Creator creates, and we destroy, and we do all of it through you. 42:52.500 --> 42:53.300 We always have. 42:54.100 --> 42:55.560 Did you forget your history, Jimmy? 42:56.420 --> 43:00.280 Even in ancient times, the archdemon Moloch was celebrated by tossing infants 43:00.280 --> 43:04.060 into flaming bonfires, accompanied, of course, by the beating of drums to 43:04.060 --> 43:04.820 drown out the screaming. 43:06.200 --> 43:11.740 Later on, they erected a giant bronze statue with outstretched arms kindling 43:11.740 --> 43:13.120 fires beneath the palms. 43:13.320 --> 43:17.600 And when they'd toss a little infant into those open palms, they'd flinch at the 43:17.600 --> 43:21.420 red-hot metal, but then they'd willingly roll themselves off into the flames. 43:21.540 --> 43:23.300 What does any of that have to do with me? 43:23.480 --> 43:24.600 Oh, nothing, James! 43:25.560 --> 43:27.760 Especially since the priests now wear surgical scrubs. 43:28.080 --> 43:30.260 The killing takes place in the womb, so there's no screaming to be heard 43:30.260 --> 43:30.680 anyway. 43:30.940 --> 43:33.680 And the remains are tossed into gas-fired crematoriums. 43:34.560 --> 43:36.460 No, James, no, no, no, no, no, no. 43:36.560 --> 43:39.260 There's no parallel whatsoever to you. 43:40.660 --> 43:48.180 Can you imagine the agony the carpenter feels when we rip a child to pieces inside 43:48.180 --> 43:49.740 its own mother's womb? 43:51.340 --> 43:53.180 Because that's what we do, James. 43:53.960 --> 43:54.640 You and us. 43:56.220 --> 43:57.780 We do that together. 44:02.090 --> 44:02.970 You're sick. 44:03.690 --> 44:03.890 Yeah. 44:06.270 --> 44:09.190 That might be the nicest thing you've ever said to me, James. 44:13.560 --> 44:14.640 Can you feel it? 44:16.120 --> 44:17.360 Can you feel it, James? 44:18.960 --> 44:20.320 It's starting to happen. 44:23.080 --> 44:27.020 Your unborn son is now on our altar. 44:27.020 --> 44:28.220 Five... 44:34.200 --> 44:34.570 four... 44:36.500 --> 44:37.240 three... 44:38.520 --> 44:39.260 two... 44:39.260 --> 44:40.040 one! 44:58.330 --> 45:00.030 And that's two, James. 45:05.770 --> 45:06.810 Open up! 45:08.450 --> 45:09.190 Open! 45:14.090 --> 45:14.830 Hey. 45:15.830 --> 45:17.170 Where can I make a call? 45:17.710 --> 45:19.550 I'll need authorization for that. 45:19.830 --> 45:20.450 It'll take time. 45:20.450 --> 45:21.470 I don't have time. 45:22.530 --> 45:23.710 Can I borrow your cell? 45:24.070 --> 45:25.190 We're not allowed to carry it. 45:25.930 --> 45:27.670 Look, I wouldn't be asking if this was an emergency. 45:28.750 --> 45:30.410 This is me begging you. 45:32.490 --> 45:34.770 All right, I can put you up in the prisoner's call bank. 45:34.870 --> 45:35.190 It's empty. 45:35.610 --> 45:36.650 All calls are recorded. 45:36.710 --> 45:37.290 That's fine. 45:37.390 --> 45:37.850 I don't care. 45:37.950 --> 45:38.430 This way? 45:38.830 --> 45:40.550 Hi, it's me. 45:40.990 --> 45:42.870 They just called my name and I'm about to go in. 45:43.030 --> 45:45.530 I just wanted to hear your voice. 45:45.830 --> 45:47.050 But I guess you're busy. 45:48.490 --> 45:48.850 Hello? 46:05.900 --> 46:06.480 Women's Health Center. 46:06.600 --> 46:07.080 This is Renee. 46:07.240 --> 46:07.880 How can I help you? 46:08.760 --> 46:12.360 The call you're about to receive originates from an inmate of the Oklahoma 46:12.360 --> 46:13.500 State Reformatory. 46:13.600 --> 46:14.220 No, no, no. 46:14.860 --> 46:15.520 That's not correct. 46:15.620 --> 46:17.460 I'm at the prison, but I'm a doctor caring for a prisoner. 46:17.900 --> 46:18.980 Can I speak to Melody Carter? 46:19.700 --> 46:20.520 Are you her physician? 46:21.480 --> 46:22.200 No, I'm... 46:23.140 --> 46:24.060 I'm her friend. 46:24.160 --> 46:24.840 Can I speak to her? 46:25.360 --> 46:27.520 I'm sorry, but they just took her into recovery. 46:27.720 --> 46:31.360 So it's going to be about an hour before she's ready to speak with anyone. 46:55.390 --> 46:57.270 The kitchen needs your last meal order. 46:57.790 --> 47:01.270 But before you go getting too creative, it needs to be available from the kitchen 47:01.270 --> 47:02.030 to commissary. 47:02.290 --> 47:04.830 And it can cost more than $25 in total. 47:07.230 --> 47:12.490 Could I have bacon double cheeseburger? 47:15.230 --> 47:16.350 Well done. 47:18.330 --> 47:19.450 And fries. 47:21.550 --> 47:22.110 Could... 47:22.110 --> 47:22.750 have... 47:24.970 --> 47:26.970 chocolate shake? 47:28.530 --> 47:30.030 Extra thick? 47:34.150 --> 47:38.530 Please, please, don't mess it up. 47:39.190 --> 47:42.010 It's important to me. 47:43.030 --> 47:44.150 Please don't... 47:54.290 --> 47:55.790 Excuse me. 47:57.110 --> 47:59.010 I've changed my mind. 47:59.710 --> 48:00.930 I won't have anything. 48:01.030 --> 48:01.530 I'm not hungry. 48:01.530 --> 48:03.450 Are you sure? 48:06.860 --> 48:07.150 Yes. 48:08.420 --> 48:09.300 I'm sure. 48:24.930 --> 48:26.010 Storm's coming in. 48:29.450 --> 48:30.530 I don't understand. 48:31.030 --> 48:31.610 He... 48:32.530 --> 48:33.770 He's been in solitary. 48:34.070 --> 48:36.670 He hasn't made any phone calls or had any visitors or... 48:36.670 --> 48:37.990 He got in your head, didn't he? 48:38.970 --> 48:39.810 Look at you, man. 48:39.870 --> 48:40.690 You're shaking. 48:44.920 --> 48:45.700 Here you go. 48:49.140 --> 48:52.680 I buy one pack of these a day before an execution. 48:59.480 --> 49:00.660 The deal is... 49:01.840 --> 49:05.560 if there's any left by the time I drive out of here tonight, they go in the trash. 49:08.080 --> 49:09.260 Are there ever any left? 49:11.480 --> 49:11.940 Never. 49:15.640 --> 49:17.700 Look, Doc, it's almost four o'clock. 49:18.320 --> 49:20.420 I know you're doing your job here, but... 49:21.380 --> 49:22.100 you gotta help me out. 49:23.700 --> 49:25.280 I gotta know one way or the other. 49:28.120 --> 49:29.800 You're not making things easy on me. 49:30.880 --> 49:33.660 By the look of it, you ain't doing happy things to yourself either. 49:43.120 --> 49:44.060 Sixty more minutes. 49:44.620 --> 49:45.700 That's all I can give you. 49:46.800 --> 49:48.280 You got one hour to figure this out. 50:19.520 --> 50:21.840 I wanna know how you knew my girlfriend was having an abortion. 50:25.060 --> 50:26.740 I'm a demon, remember? 50:28.000 --> 50:28.900 How did you know? 50:31.160 --> 50:32.820 I chose you, James. 50:34.160 --> 50:38.400 Ever since then, I've been watching you, analyzing you, observing you, studying you 50:38.400 --> 50:38.940 for your weaknesses. 50:39.340 --> 50:40.520 From inside a prison cell? 50:40.840 --> 50:44.500 Demons can only be one place at any one time, but we can be any place we choose. 50:45.740 --> 50:46.680 Usually I'm here with Edward. 50:47.180 --> 50:48.420 The remaining time, I'm with you. 50:48.740 --> 50:49.540 I don't believe you. 50:49.940 --> 50:51.200 Will you explain how I did it? 50:51.800 --> 50:53.560 James, you explain how I know. 50:53.560 --> 50:54.300 I can't. 50:54.780 --> 50:57.500 And I can't explain how a professional magician does his tricks either, 50:57.660 --> 50:58.940 but that doesn't make them real. 50:59.640 --> 51:00.860 Well, then I have a confession to make. 51:01.340 --> 51:03.060 I'm not a demon at all, James. 51:03.880 --> 51:05.660 I'm just a man who doesn't want to be executed. 51:06.140 --> 51:08.580 I thought I could fool you, but you're too smart, so I give up. 51:10.020 --> 51:10.820 So you're sane. 51:11.760 --> 51:15.920 You've always been sane, and now it's my duty to let your execution go forward? 51:15.960 --> 51:16.220 Yes. 51:16.340 --> 51:18.780 Giving you exactly what you said you wanted the whole time? 51:18.800 --> 51:19.160 Yes. 51:19.300 --> 51:20.180 It's a little convenient, don't you think? 51:20.180 --> 51:22.700 Well, I admit it might seem that way, but... 51:22.700 --> 51:22.920 Alright. 51:24.900 --> 51:25.420 Fine. 51:27.160 --> 51:29.040 I'll sign off on it right now. 51:29.480 --> 51:31.900 You just have to answer one little question. 51:32.580 --> 51:33.580 With pleasure, James. 51:33.880 --> 51:38.940 Give me the real world, non-supernatural, completely reasonable explanation for how 51:38.940 --> 51:42.340 you knew my girlfriend was going in for an elective termination this afternoon. 51:46.130 --> 51:47.170 An elective... 51:47.770 --> 51:50.310 Well, I don't know, James. 51:50.390 --> 51:52.290 Maybe I'm just a good guesser. 51:52.670 --> 51:53.630 I still don't believe you. 51:54.310 --> 51:55.830 I played the flute, and you wouldn't dance. 51:55.910 --> 51:57.530 I played the dirge, and you wouldn't weep. 51:58.850 --> 52:00.450 I tell you I'm a demon, and you don't believe me. 52:00.650 --> 52:02.830 I tell you I'm not a demon, and you don't believe me, so why don't you tell me the 52:02.830 --> 52:03.510 story you'd like to hear? 52:03.730 --> 52:04.810 The one that's true. 52:04.910 --> 52:06.650 No, I told you the true story, and you don't want to hear it. 52:10.740 --> 52:12.400 Do you think I'm evil, James? 52:14.500 --> 52:16.020 Evil isn't a clinical diagnosis. 52:17.780 --> 52:21.900 Good and evil are societal constructs, effectively subjective value statements. 52:21.900 --> 52:26.100 Do you think my victims thought I was evil? 52:26.220 --> 52:28.520 Why is it so important that I think you're evil? 52:36.100 --> 52:41.440 Sorry, my Latin's a little rusty. 52:44.180 --> 52:46.720 My name is Legion, for we are many. 52:46.720 --> 52:50.540 See, James, it's not just about you or Edward for that matter. 52:51.280 --> 52:52.000 It's about everyone. 52:52.880 --> 52:54.400 The entire human race. 52:55.220 --> 52:57.740 All of us against all of you. 53:00.900 --> 53:06.560 Well, you know, if that's the case, your side's not doing too well. 53:08.500 --> 53:10.340 Do you really believe that, James? 53:11.320 --> 53:11.840 Yeah. 53:13.540 --> 53:14.940 We've never been freer. 53:15.800 --> 53:17.400 Literacy is at an all-time high. 53:17.880 --> 53:23.200 We're working to eliminate racism, intolerance, gender inequality. 53:23.300 --> 53:27.940 People can love who they want, be who they want, do what they want. 53:28.500 --> 53:30.200 Diversity is no longer a dream. 53:30.580 --> 53:33.360 Hate speech is no longer tolerated. 53:33.420 --> 53:36.840 And politically, we're reclaiming the moral high ground. 53:39.360 --> 53:41.260 James, I think I love you. 53:42.940 --> 53:43.900 Literacy, James. 53:44.540 --> 53:47.180 James, the average high school graduate reads at a sixth grade level. 53:48.360 --> 53:51.360 You have basketball players making 30 million a year decrying racism, 53:51.980 --> 53:54.440 all while wearing sneakers made from slave labor. 53:55.700 --> 53:56.520 Now, here's something for you. 53:57.160 --> 54:00.300 Right now, your world currently has 40 million slaves. 54:00.800 --> 54:03.100 More than the Romans had at the height of their empire. 54:03.100 --> 54:04.240 You want to know the best part, though? 54:05.360 --> 54:09.540 Half of those, half, are sex slaves, James. 54:11.860 --> 54:16.020 As for hate speech, well, you want to hear some irony? 54:17.220 --> 54:18.560 We didn't even come up with that one. 54:19.420 --> 54:20.960 You did it all by yourself. 54:24.140 --> 54:25.760 Sometimes you amaze even us. 54:27.380 --> 54:28.600 I have trouble to see the humor. 54:30.120 --> 54:31.360 Bottom line is, you're done. 54:31.980 --> 54:32.740 It's over, that's it. 54:34.120 --> 54:35.700 And we did it all right to your face, James. 54:36.720 --> 54:40.860 And now there's evil everywhere, and no one even cares. 54:42.840 --> 54:44.240 Yeah, I don't agree. 54:44.720 --> 54:46.340 Proving that we achieved our goal. 54:47.340 --> 54:52.160 Slowly, with your movies, your TV, and your media, we desensitized you. 54:53.160 --> 54:56.580 Redirected your worldview to the point that you can't even recognize evil when 54:56.580 --> 54:57.600 it's right in front of your face. 54:57.980 --> 55:00.920 More to the point, James, you can't even feel it when you're doing it. 55:01.860 --> 55:03.400 And as for winners and losers, whoa, whoa, whoa. 55:04.240 --> 55:05.760 That gets decided at the time of death. 55:06.740 --> 55:12.160 The exact numbers are closely guarded secret, but there are more of you ending 55:12.160 --> 55:14.480 up in my master's house than with the enemy. 55:16.460 --> 55:17.820 A lot more, Jimmy. 55:28.880 --> 55:30.660 We're testing out the generator. 55:32.260 --> 55:32.620 Why? 55:32.620 --> 55:37.020 Because old Barky doesn't exactly run on batteries, now does she? 55:43.520 --> 55:45.920 I thought all executions were lethal injections. 55:46.740 --> 55:48.960 Nine states still offer the chair as an option for the condemned. 55:49.720 --> 55:50.960 No one chooses it. 55:51.860 --> 55:52.400 Except you? 55:54.060 --> 55:54.640 Except me. 55:56.600 --> 55:57.040 Why? 55:57.140 --> 55:58.060 Why the chair? 55:59.280 --> 56:00.980 I don't like needles, James. 56:03.180 --> 56:04.200 Why do you think? 56:05.340 --> 56:06.700 It's my parting gift to Edward. 56:07.800 --> 56:11.660 A tidal wave of voltage coursing through his body, so extreme that his body will 56:11.660 --> 56:12.860 attempt to arc out of the chair. 56:13.760 --> 56:16.160 He'll urinate, defecate, and vomit all at the same time. 56:17.080 --> 56:21.220 Sickly, sweet smell of burning flesh will permeate the chamber. 56:22.300 --> 56:25.000 His eyeballs will melt when the blood inside his cranium reaches the boiling 56:25.000 --> 56:25.400 point. 56:25.960 --> 56:27.280 His head will just burst into flames. 56:27.800 --> 56:30.680 And the best part about it, James, is he won't die on the first try. 56:30.680 --> 56:32.120 So they hit him again. 56:32.880 --> 56:33.500 And again. 56:35.120 --> 56:37.850 I can't think of a more fitting introduction into damnation. 56:39.760 --> 56:40.900 It's so horrible. 56:41.400 --> 56:42.720 It's wonderful, James. 56:43.940 --> 56:45.540 Only crucifixion is worse. 56:46.000 --> 56:47.940 But that really wasn't on the menu, though, was it? 56:53.100 --> 56:53.680 Edward. 56:55.440 --> 56:56.980 Edward, listen to me. 56:57.940 --> 56:59.340 You're making a mistake. 56:59.340 --> 57:04.600 Okay, you're playing a game that if you lose, everything you just described is 57:04.600 --> 57:05.200 gonna happen. 57:05.400 --> 57:05.760 No! 57:06.360 --> 57:06.840 No! 57:09.360 --> 57:10.320 I didn't... 57:12.940 --> 57:14.500 I didn't do anything! 57:17.740 --> 57:18.220 Please... 57:19.660 --> 57:20.140 Please... 57:20.140 --> 57:21.440 Help me! 57:21.700 --> 57:24.600 Look, I'm trying to, Edward, but you have to answer my questions. 57:24.700 --> 57:25.800 You have to tell me the truth. 57:25.800 --> 57:30.260 He won't let me answer! 57:31.200 --> 57:31.900 Make him. 57:32.040 --> 57:33.140 Make him go away. 57:33.240 --> 57:35.040 He doesn't want to go away! 57:35.760 --> 57:37.400 Well, how can I make him go away? 57:37.500 --> 57:39.780 Is there anything I can do to make him go away? 57:41.380 --> 57:41.800 Yes? 57:56.700 --> 57:59.860 But you will have to... 58:04.260 --> 58:07.020 Very good, James. 58:10.040 --> 58:12.440 Unfortunately for Edward, he's broken one of our rules. 58:15.060 --> 58:16.160 What am I doing? 58:18.000 --> 58:19.500 I wouldn't do that if I was you. 58:20.700 --> 58:21.860 He'll send me to the infirmary. 58:22.200 --> 58:23.020 Our session will be over. 58:23.080 --> 58:23.880 Is that what you want, James? 58:23.880 --> 58:27.520 I want you to stop hurting yourself. 58:27.920 --> 58:28.640 Okay. 58:28.980 --> 58:29.400 Okay. 58:30.360 --> 58:32.020 Watch this, James. 58:47.730 --> 58:48.450 Better? 59:15.030 --> 59:17.630 I see that you're sweating profusely. 59:17.730 --> 59:18.830 Are you... 59:19.830 --> 59:21.770 Are you trying to hold back the pain? 59:22.470 --> 59:26.210 I think you're misinterpreting the involuntary reaction of Edward's body. 59:27.490 --> 59:28.870 Like him, I feel the pain. 59:29.830 --> 59:32.850 But unlike him, I enjoy it. 59:37.100 --> 59:42.660 I think it's time we tell you exactly what it is that we'd like you to do. 59:43.840 --> 59:45.920 You want me to write your book, right? 59:46.580 --> 59:48.280 Actually, James, you've already written it. 59:48.880 --> 59:50.120 You're not making any sense. 59:51.300 --> 59:53.140 Everything will become clear soon. 59:55.740 --> 59:58.100 We just need you to agree to help us. 59:58.100 --> 59:59.440 Why would I do that? 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.040 What's in it for me? 01:00:03.020 --> 01:00:07.100 Whatever's my master's is mine to give for those who serve us. 01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:11.680 Okay, so let me get this straight. 01:00:13.420 --> 01:00:20.300 An unknown psychiatrist with no agent, no connections, no publicity, is going to 01:00:20.300 --> 01:00:26.380 somehow put out a book that he doesn't remember writing that will change the 01:00:26.380 --> 01:00:27.320 world as we know it? 01:00:28.100 --> 01:00:31.320 This book will be a worldwide phenomenon, James. 01:00:32.040 --> 01:00:32.440 Why? 01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.060 Because you'll be telling people what they already want to hear. 01:00:36.220 --> 01:00:40.280 Because my death, my execution, will do for me what the Carpenter's death 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:41.820 and his resurrection did for him. 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:44.480 At my death, you will be my witness. 01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.240 And upon my return, you will be my apostle. 01:00:48.140 --> 01:00:52.580 And your testimony will do for our movement what that wretched book did for 01:00:52.580 --> 01:00:53.000 his. 01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:56.060 What kind of book could possibly have that effect? 01:00:56.060 --> 01:00:58.440 The Dark Gospel, James. 01:01:00.180 --> 01:01:00.720 A story. 01:01:01.620 --> 01:01:02.260 A truth. 01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:04.280 A creed acquired to mankind. 01:01:05.540 --> 01:01:09.100 Our invitation to reject the Mosaic Covenant once and for all. 01:01:09.660 --> 01:01:11.340 To throw the chains off forever. 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:16.200 To reject the idea of sin completely, so you're free to reach your full 01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:16.780 potential. 01:01:17.560 --> 01:01:19.220 And your enemy would allow that? 01:01:19.500 --> 01:01:20.120 Yes. 01:01:21.160 --> 01:01:22.240 Because he has to. 01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:27.060 You know, he gave man free will because he wanted his creation's love. 01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:31.080 But if man isn't free, then the love has no value, does it? 01:01:31.980 --> 01:01:37.340 So in his needy, selfish, pathetic way, well, he doomed himself from the start. 01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:41.020 But if he's God, shouldn't he have known that? 01:01:41.580 --> 01:01:42.060 Yes. 01:01:43.140 --> 01:01:44.740 That's why he had to cheat. 01:01:46.180 --> 01:01:50.220 My master designed every tool imaginable to destroy every facet of the enemy's 01:01:50.220 --> 01:01:50.600 creation. 01:01:52.640 --> 01:01:54.940 We failed because of the carpenter. 01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:58.140 He was the thorn in our side. 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:00.940 Our greatest threat. 01:02:02.260 --> 01:02:05.640 We thought if we could eliminate him, the world would be ours forever. 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:09.700 We had no idea of the consequences. 01:02:11.680 --> 01:02:15.220 The cross was our greatest mistake. 01:02:16.720 --> 01:02:18.640 And we thought we'd lost, James. 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:23.780 Until my master realized that man still wants to be his own God. 01:02:24.120 --> 01:02:26.100 And to serve no one but himself. 01:02:27.220 --> 01:02:32.300 Whereas the carpenter demands, as the price for his suffering routine, 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:36.200 that you fall on your knees and you worship him. 01:02:37.640 --> 01:02:39.420 Just like his father? 01:02:40.700 --> 01:02:41.060 Yeah. 01:02:42.560 --> 01:02:45.780 But the dark gospel will rectify our past mistakes. 01:02:47.980 --> 01:02:48.620 By... 01:02:48.620 --> 01:02:52.440 deifying man and elevating my master to his rightful place. 01:02:53.800 --> 01:03:01.220 And James, for serving as our messenger, my master offers you the world and 01:03:01.220 --> 01:03:02.380 everything in it. 01:03:03.380 --> 01:03:05.420 Just like he offered the carpenter. 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.220 But the carpenter said no. 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.700 But the carpenter never claimed those things weren't my master's to give. 01:03:14.900 --> 01:03:16.700 He just turned down the offer. 01:03:18.060 --> 01:03:19.680 And make no mistake, James. 01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:21.920 You're no carpenter. 01:03:32.600 --> 01:03:34.060 The warden wants to see you. 01:03:36.040 --> 01:03:37.740 I'm... I'm not finished yet. 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:39.640 It's not a suggestion. 01:03:58.640 --> 01:04:00.140 I need you to see something. 01:04:12.930 --> 01:04:15.450 We just found that doing a clear out of the cell. 01:04:24.740 --> 01:04:26.460 Looks to me like you got a fan. 01:04:27.300 --> 01:04:28.560 How could he have done this? 01:04:31.140 --> 01:04:33.280 There's stuff in here even I don't know about me. 01:04:34.060 --> 01:04:35.700 Did the same thing with all his victims. 01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:39.180 Just one more thing. 01:04:49.250 --> 01:04:51.270 So you're telling me you had nothing to do with this? 01:04:52.230 --> 01:04:52.530 No. 01:04:53.530 --> 01:04:54.330 Of course not. 01:04:54.350 --> 01:04:55.010 How could I? 01:04:55.010 --> 01:04:55.370 Doc, it... 01:04:57.570 --> 01:04:59.790 He kept talking to me about writing his book. 01:05:00.750 --> 01:05:02.650 When I said I wasn't a writer, he said not to worry. 01:05:03.950 --> 01:05:05.130 It had already been written. 01:05:08.170 --> 01:05:09.710 I thought it was a bunch of nonsense. 01:05:12.370 --> 01:05:13.510 Yeah, well, don't worry, Doc. 01:05:13.530 --> 01:05:14.650 It all ends when he does. 01:05:17.150 --> 01:05:18.490 Personally, I'm glad this happened. 01:05:19.250 --> 01:05:20.670 Now you got skin in the game. 01:05:23.230 --> 01:05:23.890 What do you mean? 01:05:25.010 --> 01:05:29.150 If you decide our boy isn't fit for execution, he's no longer a condemned man. 01:05:30.090 --> 01:05:34.190 I mean, sure, he'll spend some time in psych lockdown, but eventually he'll make 01:05:34.190 --> 01:05:38.870 his way back into the general prison population, where he'll spend every moment 01:05:38.870 --> 01:05:41.470 of every day thinking about you. 01:05:43.670 --> 01:05:49.590 And some night, he's gonna be standing at the foot of your bed, looking down at you. 01:05:50.890 --> 01:05:53.930 And my guess is, it won't end well. 01:06:00.470 --> 01:06:02.210 I need to ask him one more question. 01:06:03.730 --> 01:06:05.810 And after that, your decision? 01:06:06.770 --> 01:06:07.310 Yeah. 01:06:08.190 --> 01:06:08.970 After that. 01:06:10.790 --> 01:06:11.950 About my final decision. 01:06:27.070 --> 01:06:28.510 What the hell is this? 01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:36.220 It's not nice to go through other people's things, Jimmy. 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:37.000 You're a liar. 01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:39.880 You've been studying me, learning everything about me. 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:41.780 My job, my relationships, my life. 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:42.940 How long has this been going on? 01:06:44.640 --> 01:06:45.880 Since you were a child. 01:06:46.780 --> 01:06:47.220 Impossible. 01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:52.760 This is my first photo of you, Jimmy. 01:06:56.220 --> 01:06:58.140 I love it when we have these moments. 01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:02.560 You're insane. 01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:04.400 That's the one thing he can't be, Doc. 01:07:04.820 --> 01:07:05.620 Not today. 01:07:09.020 --> 01:07:13.800 Is that your official diagnosis, Doctor? 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:20.980 I need to know. 01:07:22.460 --> 01:07:24.100 Were you planning on killing me? 01:07:25.300 --> 01:07:25.520 Huh? 01:07:26.420 --> 01:07:28.100 Was I supposed to be your next victim? 01:07:29.020 --> 01:07:30.940 Why would I do that, James? 01:07:32.520 --> 01:07:34.060 You're my best friend. 01:07:35.220 --> 01:07:36.220 You think that scares me? 01:07:37.860 --> 01:07:39.320 You get off on this? 01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:40.840 No. 01:07:42.640 --> 01:07:44.440 I get off on this. 01:07:51.170 --> 01:07:52.170 Edward, easy. 01:07:52.690 --> 01:07:53.270 Let him go. 01:07:53.350 --> 01:07:54.190 Nobody's gonna hurt you. 01:07:54.330 --> 01:07:55.670 Thank you for that, Warden. 01:07:55.850 --> 01:07:56.850 That is so comforting. 01:07:58.050 --> 01:07:59.670 I've got a question for you, Jimmy. 01:08:00.870 --> 01:08:03.710 What are you thinking right now? 01:08:05.170 --> 01:08:06.210 Answer me! 01:08:11.510 --> 01:08:13.010 I'm gonna die. 01:08:13.370 --> 01:08:14.470 This never gets old. 01:08:15.730 --> 01:08:16.290 Strangulation. 01:08:17.030 --> 01:08:19.570 You know, this is our favorite method of murder. 01:08:20.250 --> 01:08:20.850 Do you feel that? 01:08:21.490 --> 01:08:25.250 The instant relationship between killer and victim. 01:08:26.550 --> 01:08:29.790 I can feel every ripple coursing through your body. 01:08:30.510 --> 01:08:33.430 I can feel your heart throbbing through this chain. 01:08:33.790 --> 01:08:34.970 You know the best part, Jimmy? 01:08:35.770 --> 01:08:36.230 The best part? 01:08:36.470 --> 01:08:44.590 When I look in your eyes, I can see the exact instant, the tremulous moment when 01:08:44.590 --> 01:08:47.130 the soul leaves the body! 01:08:49.550 --> 01:08:50.670 Cry for me, Jimmy. 01:08:50.850 --> 01:08:52.670 You beg for your life. 01:08:53.350 --> 01:08:54.170 Beg me, Jimmy! 01:09:07.410 --> 01:09:09.670 Why would I kill you, James? 01:09:10.610 --> 01:09:14.090 I feel like this brought us so much closer together. 01:09:15.110 --> 01:09:15.910 Don't you? 01:09:44.260 --> 01:09:45.520 You know that! 01:09:46.020 --> 01:09:46.940 You know that! 01:09:46.940 --> 01:09:48.380 What you're about to do is wrong! 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.540 It's wrong, it's murder, James! 01:09:51.700 --> 01:09:54.960 After all, James, I'm just a figment of his imagination. 01:09:55.460 --> 01:09:56.000 Isn't that right? 01:09:56.320 --> 01:09:57.940 Isn't that right, Jimmy?! 01:10:04.490 --> 01:10:08.190 I finally accuse Edward Wayne Brady... 01:10:09.270 --> 01:10:10.750 ...competent to stand execution. 01:10:15.790 --> 01:10:18.010 And that's three, James. 01:10:21.130 --> 01:10:22.370 Just like I said. 01:10:23.090 --> 01:10:25.350 All right, get him out of here. 01:10:31.810 --> 01:10:33.430 I want you there, James! 01:10:34.270 --> 01:10:36.650 I want you to see what you've done! 01:10:39.430 --> 01:10:41.810 I want you there, James! 01:10:58.710 --> 01:10:59.650 You gonna stay? 01:11:02.290 --> 01:11:02.930 You sure? 01:11:05.370 --> 01:11:07.010 I hate to see this to its end. 01:11:08.770 --> 01:11:11.370 You do what you want, but I recommend you just go home. 01:11:14.010 --> 01:11:15.810 I need to know if I made the right decision. 01:11:21.320 --> 01:11:26.160 When a man sits in his cell 23 hours a day with nothing to do but reflect back on all 01:11:26.160 --> 01:11:27.060 the evil that he's done... 01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.440 ...sometimes the man he executed isn't the same man who came in here. 01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:35.640 And you feel bad about that. 01:11:38.260 --> 01:11:40.060 But this is not one of those times. 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:54.980 What happened to him? 01:11:55.380 --> 01:11:56.340 I do my job. 01:11:59.320 --> 01:12:01.340 Oh, he gets a haircut. 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:05.560 We take him to the barbershop and shave his head and his calf. 01:12:06.900 --> 01:12:07.420 Why? 01:12:08.220 --> 01:12:08.740 Connectivity. 01:12:10.160 --> 01:12:12.200 That's where the contact points will go. 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:16.580 Human hair is a resistor, and we need to provide a clean, clear connection. 01:12:25.280 --> 01:12:26.940 You're going to need these more than me. 01:12:48.930 --> 01:12:51.870 Blow off the top and let's trim the sides. 01:12:51.990 --> 01:12:54.830 You've got a big evening planned. 01:12:55.410 --> 01:12:56.310 Yeah, that's what I hear. 01:12:58.850 --> 01:13:00.650 There's only one kind of cut you get in a day. 01:13:02.090 --> 01:13:04.450 There's the old gap all the way around. 01:13:15.630 --> 01:13:16.030 Done. 01:13:16.410 --> 01:13:17.130 Can't be forgiven. 01:13:20.250 --> 01:13:21.230 That's what you think. 01:13:22.950 --> 01:13:25.690 Each new morn, new widows howl. 01:13:25.810 --> 01:13:27.030 New infants cry. 01:13:27.390 --> 01:13:29.710 New insults slap the face of heaven. 01:13:31.430 --> 01:13:33.090 You trying to impress Stiles. 01:13:34.430 --> 01:13:35.590 But that ain't you, bruh. 01:13:36.230 --> 01:13:37.150 That's Shakespeare. 01:13:38.450 --> 01:13:39.450 Well, the words are his. 01:13:41.930 --> 01:13:43.490 But the deeds are mine. 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.120 Well, even if it's so, it ain't nothing to be proud of. 01:14:21.380 --> 01:14:22.400 All right, he's done. 01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:24.340 Get him out of here. 01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:25.620 Take it easy, buddy. 01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:27.940 It's a rush. 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:33.920 Ain't nobody going to miss you. 01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:42.540 It's going to be okay. 01:14:42.860 --> 01:14:43.700 It's going to be okay. 01:14:45.280 --> 01:14:48.180 It's going to be okay. 01:14:58.020 --> 01:14:58.800 What... 01:15:03.740 --> 01:15:06.040 What about my meal? 01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:13.760 What about my meal? 01:15:16.630 --> 01:15:17.860 You didn't want one. 01:15:18.700 --> 01:15:19.120 Remember? 01:15:22.730 --> 01:15:24.570 No, I didn't. 01:15:24.590 --> 01:15:25.710 I didn't say that. 01:15:25.710 --> 01:15:28.310 I didn't say that. 01:15:28.510 --> 01:15:29.730 I didn't want it. 01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:49.100 Your attention, please. 01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:54.100 All witnesses are reminded that during an execution there must be no emotional 01:15:54.100 --> 01:15:59.480 outbursts, no obscenities uttered, no taunting or celebration of any kind. 01:16:00.060 --> 01:16:04.460 You are hereby ordered to display dignity befitting the solemnity of the occasion. 01:16:05.020 --> 01:16:09.100 If you feel lightheaded or about to be sick, close your eyes and bow your head 01:16:09.100 --> 01:16:09.860 towards your knees. 01:16:10.700 --> 01:16:15.200 Once I secure this door, it cannot and will not be opened until the procedure is 01:16:15.200 --> 01:16:15.640 complete. 01:16:15.980 --> 01:16:19.900 So if anyone has any last-minute reservations about what you're about to 01:16:19.900 --> 01:16:22.500 witness, now would be the time to depart. 01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:32.020 Edward Wayne Brady, I have here your death warrant, which state law compels me to 01:16:32.020 --> 01:16:32.260 read. 01:16:32.260 --> 01:16:32.900 No! 01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:36.880 Can we just wait? 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:43.820 On November 2nd of this year, the Supreme Court of Oklahoma issued a stay of 01:16:43.820 --> 01:16:48.440 execution for Edward Wayne Brady for purpose of evaluating the mental 01:16:48.440 --> 01:16:49.860 competency of the condemned. 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:55.000 Such review having taken place and such competency having been established and 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.720 confirmed by a certified medical professional, the stay is hereby lifted. 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:05.760 In keeping with the law and verdict of the jury, the defendant is hereby sentenced to 01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:06.840 death by electrocution. 01:17:09.900 --> 01:17:14.620 I designate the date and time of death for the execution of Edward Wayne Brady to 01:17:14.620 --> 01:17:18.400 take place as scheduled on November 14th at 11 p.m. 01:17:19.180 --> 01:17:23.320 Hear and fail not and make due report of when and how you have executed this writ. 01:17:23.980 --> 01:17:25.460 Signed by Governor Jennings. 01:17:26.480 --> 01:17:28.280 Does the condemned wish to review the warrant? 01:17:36.970 --> 01:17:39.090 I trust you. 01:17:56.430 --> 01:17:58.310 I wanted to thank you, Doc. 01:18:00.570 --> 01:18:02.170 I'm Detective John Russo. 01:18:03.630 --> 01:18:08.890 I spent six miserable years of my life chasing this bastard. 01:18:10.510 --> 01:18:13.810 Another eleven waiting for this exact moment. 01:18:15.130 --> 01:18:21.940 After tonight, I can go back to worrying about other things. 01:18:25.700 --> 01:18:27.200 Stand to 30 seconds. 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:28.440 Open cell one. 01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.080 Edward Wayne Brady, stand to receive your restraints. 01:18:40.540 --> 01:18:43.580 You've been extended the privilege of walking under your own power. 01:18:44.280 --> 01:18:45.800 Should you refuse, you'll be carried. 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.780 Should you resist, you'll be sprayed. 01:18:48.240 --> 01:18:49.080 Am I made clear? 01:18:54.020 --> 01:18:55.320 It's time. 01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.240 We're moving. 01:19:08.170 --> 01:19:09.130 Can 01:19:27.490 --> 01:19:29.150 we just please... please... 01:19:30.310 --> 01:19:31.270 Just... 01:19:33.330 --> 01:19:35.830 Can we just... 01:20:10.280 --> 01:20:11.320 You contrude! 01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:12.680 You do it 01:20:17.500 --> 01:20:18.140 to me! 01:20:22.820 --> 01:20:23.840 Yes, sir, Mr. Governor. 01:20:24.240 --> 01:20:24.840 I understand. 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.260 There will be no reprieve. 01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:29.240 Make ready. 01:20:59.710 --> 01:21:04.170 Edward Wayne Brady, before sentence is carried out, do you have any final words? 01:21:13.290 --> 01:21:14.490 What's your answer, James? 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:19.620 Do you accept my master's offer? 01:21:25.560 --> 01:21:26.260 Mene, mene. 01:21:27.240 --> 01:21:28.220 Take a laparson. 01:21:43.140 --> 01:21:44.540 What the hell is he talking about? 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:45.600 Damned if I know. 01:21:47.060 --> 01:21:48.520 Bring the generator to full load. 01:22:14.940 --> 01:22:15.660 Hit him. 01:22:55.530 --> 01:22:57.070 We can still make out activity. 01:22:57.470 --> 01:22:58.210 All right, stand clear. 01:23:01.790 --> 01:23:02.730 Hit him again. 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:40.680 This man is dead. 01:23:42.260 --> 01:23:43.020 Cut to generator. 01:23:44.820 --> 01:23:48.720 Log time of death at 11.02 p.m. 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:51.380 Remand the body for autopsy. 01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:52.320 Commence debrief. 01:23:52.820 --> 01:23:54.340 Witnesses are hereby released. 01:23:54.340 --> 01:23:56.840 All other posts return to standard operation. 01:24:04.580 --> 01:24:07.540 Looks like every dirtbag on the planet just moved up a notch. 01:24:16.880 --> 01:24:17.720 You okay? 01:24:20.780 --> 01:24:23.960 You should have accepted my offer, James. 01:24:32.610 --> 01:24:33.690 No, no, no, no. 01:24:35.210 --> 01:24:38.890 Help me. 01:24:38.970 --> 01:24:39.590 Just calm down. 01:24:39.650 --> 01:24:40.510 It's okay. 01:24:40.510 --> 01:24:40.990 It's over. 01:24:44.810 --> 01:24:45.670 10-32. 01:24:45.850 --> 01:24:47.230 In the witness viewing room. 01:24:48.010 --> 01:24:48.450 Relax. 01:24:54.340 --> 01:24:55.380 He won't let me. 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:55.960 Him? 01:24:59.500 --> 01:25:00.260 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 01:25:00.860 --> 01:25:01.640 Come on, Doc. 01:25:02.740 --> 01:25:03.800 It's been a long day. 01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:06.600 Just give the detective his gun back and we'll all go home. 01:25:06.860 --> 01:25:07.400 What's wrong? 01:25:07.920 --> 01:25:08.720 Stay back, Doc. 01:25:08.780 --> 01:25:09.120 Stay back. 01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:09.720 Give him room. 01:25:09.900 --> 01:25:10.260 Give him room. 01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:11.540 What's wrong with Olivia? 01:25:12.940 --> 01:25:13.700 Take it easy. 01:25:14.140 --> 01:25:15.220 What's wrong with Olivia? 01:25:17.140 --> 01:25:17.580 Doc. 01:25:18.100 --> 01:25:18.980 Whoa, whoa, whoa. 01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:21.380 You don't want to do that, Doc. 01:25:21.740 --> 01:25:22.960 Come on, Doc. 01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:24.200 Come on. 01:25:27.360 --> 01:25:28.060 Help me. 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:31.260 Help me. 01:25:36.970 --> 01:25:37.510 Get him. 01:25:37.570 --> 01:25:37.710 Get him. 01:25:38.630 --> 01:25:39.570 Grab the gun. 01:25:39.710 --> 01:25:40.190 Grab the gun. 01:25:41.750 --> 01:25:42.610 Secure the gun. 01:25:42.690 --> 01:25:43.090 Secure the gun. 01:25:43.470 --> 01:25:44.470 I got the gun. 01:25:44.510 --> 01:25:44.830 I got 01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:54.920 the gun. 01:25:54.920 --> 01:25:59.160 In five, four, three... 01:25:59.160 --> 01:26:05.700 So, today, a conversation that I didn't think would ever happen, especially with 01:26:05.700 --> 01:26:06.540 our next guest. 01:26:06.700 --> 01:26:08.680 It is Dr. James Martin. 01:26:09.040 --> 01:26:09.620 Thanks, Glenn. 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:10.480 Appreciate you having me on. 01:26:10.480 --> 01:26:10.760 You're welcome. 01:26:11.300 --> 01:26:13.900 So, you were the shrink. 01:26:14.060 --> 01:26:20.940 You were the board-certified psychiatrist that actually attended the execution of 01:26:20.940 --> 01:26:22.400 Edward Wayne Brady. 01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:23.120 Yes, that's correct. 01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:28.880 And it was because of your determination that he was finally executed. 01:26:29.300 --> 01:26:34.900 My determination of his sanity was the last step, so to speak, in the chain of 01:26:34.900 --> 01:26:36.700 events that led to him being executed. 01:26:37.860 --> 01:26:41.440 And now, you've written a book. 01:26:42.080 --> 01:26:48.580 Well, actually, Mr. Brady, or more correctly, the entity claiming to inhabit 01:26:48.580 --> 01:26:50.480 Mr. Brady, wrote the initial manuscript. 01:26:51.220 --> 01:26:54.800 I read that, and my first thought was, entity? 01:26:56.540 --> 01:26:58.680 Mr. Brady told me that he was possessed by a demon. 01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:00.560 You're a psychiatrist. 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:02.640 Did you believe him at the time? 01:27:02.840 --> 01:27:03.040 No. 01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:07.980 But, I believe him now. 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:10.540 So, what changed? 01:27:13.140 --> 01:27:17.760 The fact that, for a brief time, the entity inhabited me as well. 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.480 And again, this entity. 01:27:20.660 --> 01:27:26.120 I mean, I can hear Christians say, yeah, entity, fallen spirit, unclean 01:27:26.120 --> 01:27:27.540 spirit, demon. 01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:30.020 That's what he claimed to be. 01:27:33.100 --> 01:27:35.700 So, let me go here. 01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:42.220 You were in the witness room, and you tried to commit suicide. 01:27:44.220 --> 01:27:45.640 It wasn't my choice. 01:27:46.860 --> 01:27:50.400 See, at that moment, 01:27:53.670 --> 01:28:03.990 I was overtaken by an entity so malevolent, so powerful, so evil, 01:28:04.450 --> 01:28:07.930 that words can't describe it. 01:28:08.950 --> 01:28:13.650 I had control of my mind, but the entity had control of my body. 01:28:14.730 --> 01:28:21.890 And so, against my will, I grabbed the detective's sidearm, put the muzzle under 01:28:21.890 --> 01:28:23.030 my chin, and pulled the trigger. 01:28:27.130 --> 01:28:28.850 But, it didn't fire. 01:28:29.830 --> 01:28:31.410 So, how do you explain that? 01:28:34.570 --> 01:28:35.810 I can't. 01:28:38.940 --> 01:28:41.700 According to the ballistics team, I pulled the trigger three times. 01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:48.000 And they could tell, because there were three separate and distinct strike 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.600 imprints from the firing pin on the back of the shell casing. 01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:56.280 And then, when they attempted, in the ballistics lab, later, to fire the 01:28:56.280 --> 01:28:57.460 same gun, same cartridges... 01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:00.100 It worked just fine. 01:29:01.620 --> 01:29:06.380 A believer, not a psychiatrist, a man of science, but a believer would 01:29:06.380 --> 01:29:08.320 say, you had an encounter. 01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:10.980 Divine or demonic, you had an encounter. 01:29:11.940 --> 01:29:12.420 Yeah. 01:29:12.820 --> 01:29:18.800 So, why would this demonic entity want you dead? 01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:23.280 Punishment for not doing what he wanted. 01:29:27.830 --> 01:29:32.990 You are a complex kind of guy. 01:29:33.390 --> 01:29:40.810 I mean, what happens to an atheist that is confronted by demonic evil? 01:29:42.490 --> 01:29:43.890 It shatters you. 01:29:45.090 --> 01:29:52.370 And yet, the same demon that shatters you wrote a book, and you're here, 01:29:52.570 --> 01:29:54.790 and you wanted it published. 01:29:54.790 --> 01:29:55.150 Yes. 01:29:56.490 --> 01:29:57.730 Well, no. 01:30:01.010 --> 01:30:07.750 He wanted it written as an invitation to follow his master into the darkness, 01:30:07.890 --> 01:30:11.490 but I rewrote it. 01:30:12.730 --> 01:30:19.510 I rewrote it as a warning, revealing his plan and begging people not to go along 01:30:19.510 --> 01:30:19.850 with it. 01:30:21.010 --> 01:30:23.750 So, you're not still doing his will? 01:30:24.790 --> 01:30:25.430 Absolutely not. 01:30:26.750 --> 01:30:29.230 Just logically, do you think that's going to work? 01:30:29.290 --> 01:30:30.950 Do you think anybody would believe you? 01:30:32.750 --> 01:30:33.710 Only time will tell. 01:30:34.010 --> 01:30:34.630 I mean, you. 01:30:34.790 --> 01:30:35.890 Do you believe you? 01:30:36.010 --> 01:30:39.190 I mean, do you... are you a believer? 01:30:41.150 --> 01:30:43.270 I don't know if I'd go that far. 01:30:45.070 --> 01:30:49.830 I mean, I suppose I just have trouble still accepting the idea that... 01:30:51.870 --> 01:30:52.650 I don't know. 01:30:54.790 --> 01:30:55.030 You will. 01:30:55.690 --> 01:30:56.230 You'll get there. 01:30:57.070 --> 01:30:58.510 You seem pretty sure of that. 01:31:00.550 --> 01:31:05.090 Because you are a logical person. 01:31:05.250 --> 01:31:07.650 You're asking logical questions. 01:31:08.490 --> 01:31:09.750 Let me take you a step further. 01:31:10.410 --> 01:31:16.270 You are uniquely qualified as somebody who can delineate between mental illness and 01:31:16.270 --> 01:31:17.410 possession. 01:31:18.210 --> 01:31:20.450 I mean, at least if you're any good. 01:31:20.610 --> 01:31:21.570 I mean, assuming you're good. 01:31:21.630 --> 01:31:21.950 You good? 01:31:22.870 --> 01:31:23.750 I'd like to think so. 01:31:24.790 --> 01:31:26.110 I'm guessing you are. 01:31:26.970 --> 01:31:32.610 Despite the demon's last words to you, which I'm going to butcher, but they 01:31:32.610 --> 01:31:32.910 are... 01:31:33.590 --> 01:31:36.150 Mene, mene, tekhil, apharsin. 01:31:38.170 --> 01:31:42.430 You've been weighed in the balance and found wanting. 01:31:42.430 --> 01:31:43.230 You 01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:56.500 know, looking back, I don't believe he was just talking about me. 01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:58.380 I think he was talking about all of us. 01:32:00.780 --> 01:32:05.500 There's a great battle going on, whether we realize it or not. 01:32:07.900 --> 01:32:09.400 The battle between good and evil. 01:32:10.420 --> 01:32:14.400 And we're all participants. 01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:18.700 Willing or not. 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:25.460 So I believe that, but that is amazing to hear from a non-believer. 01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:28.340 Thank you. 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:29.500 Thank you. 01:32:30.660 --> 01:32:32.760 We've been talking to Dr. James Martin. 01:32:32.900 --> 01:32:36.320 He is the author of the new book, A Nefarious Plot. 01:32:36.860 --> 01:32:38.800 You can find it wherever books are sold. 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:39.940 Thanks, Doc. 01:32:40.320 --> 01:32:40.960 Thank you. 01:32:45.220 --> 01:32:46.220 Hey, great interview, Doc. 01:32:46.360 --> 01:32:47.060 Thanks so much. 01:33:09.580 --> 01:33:10.600 Hello, James. 01:33:13.780 --> 01:33:14.480 Miss me? 01:37:27.070 --> 01:37:28.570 Miss you.